Ram 1500 vs Durango | It's Decision Time And I Can Only Buy One
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- The day to decide is finally here. I'm replacing my Dodge Durango with either a Ram 1500 V8 or a Durango 392.
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Oh my, I love the "he's in FCA's pocket" conspiracy theories. So much fun! Here's the deal: The Durango is like Denny's. Nobody plans to go to Denny's for dinner, you just end up there because all the other options are closed. If a [insert 3-row CUV here] offered 8,700 lbs of towing it would be on the list. If for instance the Aviator could do it, I'd buy an Aviator instead. If the Pathfinder could do it, I rather like it and would buy it instead also. Ditto a Telluride, maybe a Palisade, Highlander in a pinch. Just sayin...
Take their opinions with a grain of salt, Alex. It’s the internet and there will always be complaints. There’s not another logical option that exists other than the Durango that fits your needs. Sounds like they’re all AoA noobs.
Be careful, you're going to lose your Denny's sponsorship
@@stevee8318 :-)
@Alex on Autos, Well said. Let me paraphrase to placate the cynics who have not been sharing this long TH-cam road trip with you all these years -
Nobody plans on buying a Dodge/Chrysler/Fiat/Peugeot/ Stellantis............ you just end up there ;-)
What about the Land Rover Defender or Discovery with both at 8,200lbs of towing capacity.
Why is ALEX thee BEST damn auto reviewer on the ENTIRE internet?!? I recommend him to ANYONE even slightly interested in looking to buy an auto! Well done sir, every single time!
Agreed 100%. I subscribe to other Auto/Truck reviewers but they simply don't beat the level of detail Alex provides.
@@gerry2893 Also agree, what he does so well is not bag on any car but say oh this 2020 Fiat 500X Trekking Plus its nice but you should buy this if you like euro styling and handing. I am wishing that he reviewed my 2020 Jetta SEL Premium.
@@gerry2893
Savagegeese is also pretty detailed, though moreso on stuff like the drivetrain. I'd recommend their channel if you like AoA.
@@CrazyWeeMonkey Agreed with that too as I liked his review on the Golf R awhile back.
@@CrazyWeeMonkey Goose is a LOT more enthusiast-focused but I like his videos too. Good production quality. I like Alex more though.
A $1000 utility trailer saved me from spending $60000 on a truck. 😉
The RAM just looks so damn nice.
I still love how hands-on Alex is. Most other car reviewers generally strike me as "don't get your hands dirty" types. Meanwhile, Alex is like "check out my excavator".
Alex flexing his toy collection at home. Great setup.
Fantastic video. So knowledgeable. Neither one of these vehicles are on my list but great video to watch. Thanks for these reviews Alex.
Toyota and Honda can go take their boring crap home
Is there a difference with the payload and axel of the SRT vs the RT with Tow n Go? I understand the door sticker for payload is the same regardless of the models. Can you comment on the difference with the door sticker if it is meaningful?
@@Ryan2022 or to a fire pit. U stole the words right out of my mouth.
All the details and more. I find you cover the actual real world specs better than anyone on the tube. Most folks are stuck on the canned base model media specs, but you sir always impress by showing the actual payload and trailering capacities, talking about the various options and differences/pros/cons and do real world things with the vehicles when testing. Keep it up.
Just get a hellcat Durango and be done with it. Practicality plus stupid levels of childish performance is what you want right?
Get them well you still can because I have a feeling FCA, let alone Stellantis, never intended to keep it around for more than a few model years.
@@MichaelMiller-rg6or Didn’t Stellantis say it was a one-year model? If so, the Hellcat will probably only appreciate in value.
Get the 6.4L!
Get the 6.4L!
Get the 6.4L!
Get the 6.4L!
Get the 6.4L!
No for real Get the 6.4L!
I have the Jeep GC SRT with the 6.4L and it’s my favorite FCA (or whatever their new name is) engine. I’ve also owned a 2013 Ram with the 5.7L and I will not go back to a Ram until they have a 6.4L…..
Nice ! Can’t wait for a bunch of videos of you towing . Just like TFL, start a towing loop to test all trucks and SUVs . Would be cool to dive into towing videos..... Peacefrom510
Love the Durango! Especially this latest update with the beautiful interior (composite carbon). I would go Durango over a truck. The 6.4L is a gem. Trucks are so tired. Everyone has a Ram 1500 or F150. Congrats Alex!!
Awesome video
I actually own a 2019 ram and a 2018 Durango and damn i love the rams interior and capabilities but driving the dodge is way more fun and could fit more people if in need.
This was a very helpful video to talk pros and cons of different types of options. Keep up the great work!
Alex, I have a Toyota Tundra extended cab, and a Silverado Crew Cab Dually. I know what you mean about parking.
Thanks for this when I was buying my first car my entire family was like just get a RAV4! Why? because they had bad experiences with other brands and to them, a Toyota fits their needs... but they never felt right to me. So I looked at PHEVs, HEVs, BEVs, crossovers, and sedans but none of them felt right... So I went with my first choice... a Mustang.
Why? It has 4 seats that yes we fit in, It has a big trunk, it's the Ecoboost so it's nimble and efficient, It has heated and cooled seats and finally it's a Mustang.
Something I've always wanted for all it is sure it has half the features of the Camaro but I can see better out of it, I got mine for $9k off... overall, it was the right fit for me... Oh and everyone likes it now.
One would think a f150 with powerboost would be ideal.
By the numbers my V8 Platinum with a 3.31 ratio has way more capability. 1702lbs Payload and 8900lbs max tow.
I am waiting for my Durango GT V6 , I did many researches during last 12 months and is simply the best in class for towing and for a family SUV in the same time . Thank you Alex I was watching closely your reviews , many useful informations !
Awesome, thanks for the in depth comparison. We are trying to decide right now between another Ram 1500 Sport or a Durango.
Roads in the mountainous forests are very particular. Also the need to drive into crowded cities of California makes the choice of Alex correct. The flat stretches of regions in most of North America with large roads and enough property area will definitely tend to prefer a truck vs a SUV. The original family of Alex in Texas will always suggest to choose a truck.
There are reasons that I throw a few bucks each month to "Alex on Autos" to express my appreciation of this channel. Alex' needs and priorities are quite different from mine but I always know the basis of his assessments. And more importantly he knows and points out the unique character of his needs. I tow nothing more challenging than a wheeled trash container every week down and back my long steep driveway. I'm no more likely to purchase a Dodge Durango or a Ram 1500 than a Porsche 911 or a Corvette but it's always interesting to see a review that is so detailed and comprehensive. (Who else discusses axle ratios in their reviews?) Thanks, Alex. Always worth my time to see your reviews even when a particular vehicle isn't on my cross shopping list.
If FCA had 4 wheel steering on the 1500 it would be a no brainer.
Alex. thank you for this comparison... because apart from just these two vehicles, it's important to understand whether you prefer the truck or SUV from one car company.
It is always hard to buy what you really need comparing to what you eager to have.
I just went through a very similar process. Ended up trading in one of my favorite vehicles ever, a 2018 Durango R/T AWD. We were using it to pull a 31' travel trailer and while the Durango felt strong, it wasn't confidence inspiring when pulling through a crosswind.
We ended up with a 2020 Ram 1500 Laramie with the 3.0 Ecodiesel which pulls the trailer with ease and gets much better mileage to boot. I miss the Durango - I'll have another one but next time it will be an SRT or Hellcat.
The turning radius and around town parking are huge points.I traded a crew cab Tundra in on a Honda Odyssey and I’m very happy.I don’t tow but needed cargo space.It’s not the manly vehicle but works great for me.
I will never know why a lot of car-related TH-cam channels get more views than Alex’s. I subscribe to probably 60 car review channels and Alex has been my favorite for the past 5 years at least
Because not everyone cares about facts, technology, practicality, they watch reviews for fun, because of presentation or production that suits their taste. Well, I would argue that vast majority of cars buyers select their cars mostly based on their looks.
@@nenadmil true
No dougscore 😂. I actually prefer Alex’s facts over Doug’s schtick.
You did a great job on your video. You talk about things others don't. Glad you mentioned 1200lb payload. I do not understand why 1900lb payload is mentioned on a few sites. Dodge(according to some forums) has had a problem with advertising correct payload for several years. A 7000lb trailer plus 4 men, and full gas would probably put you over 1200lbs. That is without cargo.
Easy question to answer do you need a box to haul items or not, if not durango, if so then the 1/2 ton.
Alex, you do the best analysis of ANYONE on the business!!
Same here I’m currently looking at them as well
A great intelligent exposé, thank you again Alex !
I was going to say pick either the R/T Tow N Go or the 392. The 392 is a great choice!
Just when you think you know all about pick ups and SUVs, along comes Alex with a knowledge bomb.
Hell Kitty is going to be stuck in my head forever now
I do like both vehicles, when I think about my 6 members family comfort DD will be nice choice, when I think about their luggage the Ram will be good choice but yet how to fit 6 passengers in 4 passengers, I’m not thinking of towing anything behind my vehicle so what will be the proper choice for me? Appreciate your answer
Ram 1500 has amazing interior.
I feel like if you flip a coin you'll be happy regardless. But if you want to reflip, just pick the other one.
392 Durango it is then. Glad we had this talk. The other 3-row crossovers mentioned at the end, the Atlas, the Explorer, the highlander are all atrocious vehicles to drive compared to the Durangos. Durango is heavier, yet feels much lighter on it’s feet. My two cents.
Great comparison, Alex. I feel that the Durango is an underrated SUV. However, its dated looks and poor fuel economy result in its remaining a niche vehicle. I would consider one if I had heavy towing requirements and didn’t want a pickup. One thing you omitted was the length of each vehicle’s wheel base. I presume that the pickup has a longer wheel base, which I understand is an advantage for towing.
Wheelbase has an impact yes, but its not the only factor involved and all things together the Durango is more stable due to its higher curb weight , lower center of gravity and suspension design
I could tell, by the beginning of the video, you were likely to stick with your decision. Mainly due to your needs/wants in a vehicle and the roads nearby. I was mainly thinking for content wise, you might have chosen different, but you're more practical than most car journalists, Alex.
I just watched all your Durango reviews and this made me think that buying a 3 rows SUV and a dumpster trailer separately, would be better than buying a truck. Although a full-size truck is what I'll need, it's unfortunate that they're so complicated to get in Europe.
@10:12: looks like a forest fire went through your property at some point of time? Love your place and this very informative video. Well done.
I would DEFINITELY stick with the Durango, even if you tow super often the Durango is still a fantastic tow vehicle like you mentioned. For everyday driving the Durango is a much better option. Big but not to big and will always drive much better. Unless you really need the box of the ram i dont see the appeal in the ram
I very much like the Durangos but I’ve shied away from them because of their poor crash test rating. To this point, I have had no reason to be concerned with tow ratings and have had a need to seat six so I obviously have an XC90. My need to carry six is decreasing and looking to the future, my need to tow is increasing so I’m keeping my eyes open for something that would fit the bill. I’m in no rush so I’m interested in the Rivian RT1 and the Ford Lightening….. and looking to see how they do on the crash tests. Thanks for sharing the wealth of knowledge and insight. 🍻
I love the durango my self ! Love that it works for you
I keep the third row down for the time being. The space available is what sold me on on the Durango.
After listening to your comparison of the two, it seems to be a no brainer. The Durango meets your needs and preferences better than the RAM 1500.
In most cases, the SUV usually meets the needs of people better than a pickup unless you are a rancher or need to carry long items all the time. I had long ago purchased a 2001 Ford F-150 SuperCrew and thought it would be perfect for my needs; but it just wasn't. It was a great vehicle, but it just didn't do things the way I wanted.
Im thinking of doing the same. Dealer says it's not possible to get the hellcat wheels on the SRT. How were you able to do so?
I appreciated this very thorough walk through. But one thing you didn't get into, is that tow ratings don't tell the whole story. Which truck/suv actually handles the load better? I'm willing to bet the truck controls the trailer much better than the durango does, simply due to increased weight, increased wheelbase, and increased track width.
It doesn’t actually, the Durango is pushed around less due to the suspension design and the weight
Good points Alex. No BS review
Interesting comparison.
Cool Video Alex...Ignore the Jealous comments on here..You know what your doing and i enjoy watching you.
Do you pull an RV with the Durango? I have a 29.5’ 6200lb with all sway arm etc. Currently have a Ram Rebel with air suspension.
I am concerned about (stability) driving in the mountains / high winds with a Durango. Family of 5. The power from the 6.4 is intoxicating and with the new infotainment and brake controller makes it a great option. Colour choice is what I would pick too. Look forward to new videos on your new Durango.
EXACTLY the choices (PU vs SUV, not Dodge though) I’m looking at right now. Perhaps my biggest issue is I can’t get a PU in to my garage. I hate being forced to park outside on the driveway.
Honda Ridgeline fulls both, Pickup and SUV. And fits in the garage.
Unless you're a contractor who really needs a bed full-time, or significant towing ability, I'm going with an SUV with a hitch. When I need to tow of hit the BB store, I grad my $1000 traler. Otherwise, I'm driving a nicer, comfortable SUV.
I am curious, did a Tahoe or Yukon make the list for consideration? The new ones seem very nice to me.
I suspect not, because they’re larger, and thus potentially the same issues as the big truck but without as many benefits (e.g. the bed). If he’s going to buy a vehicle that big, he wants it to be a truck. The reason the Durango is being considered is not because it’s an SUV, but because it’s one of the physically smallest vehicles that will tow what he needs.
Yep pretty much. Too big, too expensive
I love how dodge gives the big 6.4 in the Durango!
The answer is never a pickup. Get the SUV.
you have some impressive trees going on there !
I had the same choice a couple of years ago. Decided against joining the jacked up truck drivers social class. No regrets here.
A tough decision to say the least. I think you'll be happy either way
someone didn’t watch the whole video and was merely interested in commenting “first”
@@GrandHuevotes I can't tell if you're serious or just trolling. Alex literally said he's replacing his Durango with either a newer model or the RAM.
@@dtay8913 If you watched the video you would know that he already made the decision.
@@blegi1245 What's your point? All Dtay said was that it was a tough choice either way and that Alex would he happy regardless. How does that imply he didn't watch the video?
Are you certain the 6.4l version of the Durango has 6-piston front brakes? I thought it was only available on the Hello Kitty trim.
It is really beautiful where you live
What distance are you towing ? If 200-250 miles then wait for the tesla CT trimotor ? If hauling distance then get a diesel pickup. I havent checked the wheelbase of durango vs ram truck however i think the p/u will be more stable for towing a heavy trailer, do they both offer load leveling air suspension ?
Wheelbase isn;t' everything, the Durango is heavier and the lower center of gravity gets pushed around less than the 1500
Awesome video as always. Have to ask. What the hell is Alex doing in the weekends…lot of towing and excavators 😅😅😅
What do I need? Something I can afford. The least expensive Durango with available V8 is a 2 wheel drive R/T model which starts at $45,595 msrp. A well equipped 2 wheel drive Ram 1500 V8 Big Horn with quad cab and 6 1/2’ bed starts at $38,280 msrp. That’s a big difference, one which most Americans can appreciate these days. Plus there are a lot more Rams out there to choose from than V8 Durangos. By the way, the overall length of a Ram crew cab with 5 1/2’ short bed is actually 4” longer than the quad cab with the more practical 6 1/2’ long bed. Great comparison Alex, thanks as always!
Did Alex just said the hello kitty logo? He is a funny dude. BTW, very informative dissecting the Pros & Cons.
Hell-kitty
Did you weigh this against the Tow & Go or were you already set on a 6.4?
Do some videos on your towing /excavator/ wood chipper equipment
Durango gas tank is a lot smaller if you are towing or traveling for long range.
This is true
Great choice Alex! 👍 We don't want you to be "Track man"
I'm curious if you considered the Ecoboost F150? It feels like it solves all your gripes about the RAM. 8 ft bed, huge payload and towing, etc.?
Yes... but... it's just as big as the RAM and the interior isn't as nice.
A compact tractor with a hitch can be helpful for organizing the trailer redeo.
Alex, what’s the Durango’s mpg when towing 7,000 lbs?
I'm assuming the Ram had a 3.21 axle? I didn't hear it mentioned. May have been nice to go over the different axle ratios in the Ram
Sounds like they need to bring back the Dakota and put a hellcat engine in it for you!
he has the money,so he can whatever he wants,that is the most important thing
If the average vehicle customer only bought the vehicle they "need", the auto industry would be on its knees right now. Every make, every model is a wonderland of available goodies that few can resist (bank account not withstanding). Looks like Alex is happiest living in Durango country! 👍
I would have gone with the Ram 1500 limited- you can’t beat the quiet ride and luxury feel.
Oddly I traded my 2019 RAM 1500 (w Offroad package) for a 2021 Honda Ridgeline ... mainly because the RAM at 19'4" was getting tiresome to park and drive ... and the fuel mileage even with 3.21 gears was pretty atrocious ...and didn't seem all the sprightly with 395 ponies under the hood ...
Hi Alex, long time subscriber here. Question, is it possible or smart to buy an older Durango with high mileage and make it new. Like a rebuild engine and things like that?
I quest I’m asking is it possible to make an older car just as good as a newer one cheaper.
I really like the 2021 Ram 1500 Longhorn Laramie 10th Anniversary Edition.
The Ram's payload capacity is ridiculously low. I tow and my Silverado 1500 LTZ's payload capacity is 1910 lbs. And mine has plenty of options, including a moonroof. Between me, the wife, the dog, two generators, extra gas, a loaded cooler, firewood, etc, we're putting some serious weight in the bed. And then there's the tongue weight of the trailer. Even if the Ram had 1500 lbs of payload capacity, we'd be over it.
Would you consider waiting until the next generation Tundra is released?
Ram 1500 is 3.31 or 3.92 for the Hemi. EcoDiesel has 3.55 or 3.92 available.
3:21
I’m a fan of having a versatile pickup bed. Too bad Stellantis hasn’t yet confirmed a new Dakota, that might have been the ticket for you.
The RAM 1500 Longhorn is the best option for you, Alex!
U already had a Dodge Durango Citadel
1500 with air ride and at least in a Laramie trim with 12 inch screen. Had one for two years and it rides way better than the Durango I looked at. Interior is where you spend most of your time and it’s way better in the Ram.
I think you already knew the answer even before you uploaded this Good luck
With all your experience what weight of travel trailer would you be comfortable pulling with the Durango (taking into account it being a big square box)
Honestly 7-8K is fine with the 6.4
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Thanks! And no issues with 700+ Tongue weight?
Not at all. I mean, don't put 6 folks in the car and then do 700 lbs of tongue wight... but 1/2 ton trucks have that issue too.
What was the out the door cost that you got for the Durango SRT?
It seems like you should be look at 2500 for a no brainer decision. I do the same type of work and trailers. You feel much more confident with the 2500. Looks like you have plenty of land to make your turns easier.
Interesting that the Chevy has the tow rating for the specific vehicle on the door placard, but not on the website for a build config - and then you say Ram has it on the website (but not on the vehicle) but not for the Durango. Weird. The Ram is the most elegantly styled PU, but I love the tough look of the Silverado, especially in Trail Boss guise. GM is gonna get wise and let me spec the baby Duramax with the Trail Boss (and updated interior), then they can have my money.
Its on the vehicle too, but it makes shopping much easier when you can see it on the website. You can enter all the ones you're online shopping and only visit the ones you want.
The 5.7 hemi in the 8,000lb Ram 2500, before it was discontinued, was rated for about 13,000lbs with roughly the same gearing as the Durango R/T Tow n' Go package, so the 8,700lb tow limit is all suspension based. Also the payload for the Tow n Go is the highest of all the V8 Durango's, pushing 1,600lbs. But honestly if you weren't in desperate need of the 8700lb towing capacity, the new Grand Cherokee L Overland with the trail package would probably have been your best friend here, giving you an interior better than the ram with otherwise very close specs to the durango.
For the Ram, well the Ramboxes eat payload alive, also the tow rating drastically goes up with 3.92 rear gears, where this truck you have had the 3.21 rear gears. For the Ram 1500, the 3.55 is exclusive to the 3.6 V6.
Honestly as someone who's been looking into pickups and currently drives a grand cherokee, I am taking a hard look at the tahoe with the diesel because the fuel economy, towing capability and space is really only rivaled by a pickup, but the tahoe's ride is infinitely better and I don't tow that much.
If you can only choose between a Dodge Durango and a Ram 1500 the choice is very clear.... You choose Ford F-150 Lariat Powerboost. ;-)
I really thought about it
@@AAutoBuyersGuide is the F-150 Lightning too long of a wait for you to buy one?
Interior on the Ford sucks.
A 392 Ram would be perfect but unless you constantly need a truck bed... the 392 Durango is seriously the best choice.
I had a Trackhawk, that S/C was addictive
Did you consider the cheapest version of the Land Rover Defender 110? I believe it has a tow rating of 7700 lbs. It would have been a very different type of vehicle from the ones you usually end up buying and would have been a superb off-roader as well.
Still lower than 8700 is the problem
Halfway through the video and I can tell you're going with the Durango
The answer is the F-150 Lightning. That truck will be a game changer, and will make all other trucks seem completely lacking
Alex did you consider the Grand Cherokee SRT ? Its even more compact than the Durango altho i believe it tows slightly less i doubt it will affect much in the real world