This game actually went out of its way into delving deep into his psyche, he "went insane", and yet was still sane enough to admit it. Getting "scared because he was no longer able to control his thoughts," and as that's being said you see the words that are appearing on screen turn red and wanting it "all to end" as if he was contemplating suicide. that's darker than shadow's own game. The mind is a powerful thing; it can either accomplish great things, or be your worst enemy.
Super dark scene. The "Ready!" that the G.U.N. guy says after Gerald's speech is him signaling a firing squad. A firing squad in a kids game. People say that 2005's Shadow the Hedgehog had balls, but SA2 did it first.
@@TheMaestroMizerous Shadow the hedgehog was pretty much the juvenile teenage version of maturity. Just add guns and over use swears cause ... “mature”. SA2 was much more natural and subtle. There was a lot of very dark implications, but they aren’t in our faces about it. Real “maturity”.
In SA1 The Ancient Echidna Tribe literally killed a bunch of Chao, then Chaos wiped out most of the echidna tribe, ending with Knuckles literally being that last of his kind, and never fully knowing why. (Unless you want you count Archie Sonic as canon but whatevs lol)
Geez. The sad thing is that Gerald when he started Project Shadow only did so because he thought he'd be able to make a cure for his granddaughter and help humanity. And then GUN ultimately boards the Space Colony ARK and kills most of everyone on there. Gerald is responsible for his actions, but GUN really screwed the pooch on this one.
According to really obscure backstory that is what happened. He became a scientist in honor of his Grandfather whom he admired and went evil because he resented GUN for killing Gerald and always felt he was unfairly incarcerated and executed.
@@videogollumer Could you blame him though? After giving G.U.N. what they funded his research for, their immediate response was to raid the A.R.K., seize all of his research and and gun down multiple people, including his granddaughter?! If this was in response to him contacting Black Doom, G.U.N. didn't think to at least CONSULT Gerald over his reason? They didn't think Gerald would've already started thinking up contingency plans for when they came back?! Assuming G.U.N. is still canon in the modern games, I hope Dr. Eggman just kills all of those bastards one day! They definitely deserve the bullets they put in Maria and Gerald to be shot back at 'em!
@@ceecee6521 As a matter of fact, yes, I can. You're right; G.U.N. was wrong, especially to gun Maria down! Don't think I don't understand the situation. Gunning a 12 year old girl down? What were they thinking?! What kind of military defense force ARE they?! That's like shooting Amy to death! That being said, just because his granddaughter was killed and research rejected by G.U.N. does NOT give him the right to punish the WHOLE WORLD for G.U.N.'s crimes. If you're gonna take revenge, do it to the people who ACTUALLY WRONGED YOU, not those who DIDN'T! He could have planted nano-bombs in every nook and cranny of G.U.N.'s headquarters, and I wouldn't blame him; but he targeted innocent people for reasons that they had nothing to do with. Furthermore, listen to how he talks. He's not just trying to destroy humanity; he's trying to pass judgment on it! He thinks himself to be a god! He has a god complex, and that's the reason for his dark turnaround! "Oh! You ungrateful humans! I was trying to help you, but the fact that a few of you killed my granddaughter and rejected my genius means that you're all alike! So, I'm going to destroy ALL of you!". He had an ego even before G.U.N. wronged him! Yes, he was trying to save his granddaughter's life, but he let his "brilliant mind" blind him into thinking that he knew what was best for humanity and that he had the right to pass judgment on it! It doesn't matter if he had good intentions; I can't respect such hubris. Lastly, I'd like to point out that the tragedy happened over 50 years ago in continuity, meaning that everyone who was a member of G.U.N. back then is either dead or retired by now. Either way, none of those people are working for G.U.N anymore; pretty much every member now is of a new generation. Would it be right to kill them all for the crimes of their predecessors?
It’s really unsettling to think that if Gerald’s video had continued for a few more seconds, we would’ve seen him get riddled with bullets from a firing squad
"All you ungrateful humans who took everything away from me will feel my loss and despair!" That line still haunts me. I never forgot the way it was delivered and the emotion behind it.
Hey, Gerald! Your son (Eggman's dad) and/or grandson (Eggman himself) are still on the planet you want to destroy! Something tells me you don't care about them and have been playing favorites with Maria!
It would make sense. After all, in Eggman's eyes, his grandfather was a scientific hero, wrongfully imprisoned and murdered by sightless fools who feared progress, leading him to become a ruthless industrialist who cares little for those who suffer in the name of technological advancement.
Man, I love the story of this game so much. Gerald managed to be a truly terrifying villain, even from beyond the grave. I love the darker tone of these older Sonic games.
You know, now that I've seen this cutscene again, it's more disturbing that Robotnik said he would have done it himself, and the awe and admiration that he has when he speaks of his grandfather here.
@@rockamillion2002 that was in response to Knuckles asking him to stop it. Eggman has never wanted to destroy the planet, but merely rule, hence his switching morality at times. Of course, he was perfecting okay with blowing it up if earth didn't surrender to him.
@@Bornagainvillain i think he was going to use it at low power to destroy major cities one by one until the remaining survivors surrendered, akin to an interrogator chopping off fingers until the one being tortured squeals the reason he wanted all 7 was because it would allow him to fire the cannon willy nilly, as opposed to the (likely) unwieldy cooldown of the cannon with less emeralds
yeah to those who say these stories arnt well thought out, flipping that video of Gerald, was literally moments before being gunned the crap down by the execution squad as he was chained to a chair in his cell with a metric ton of equations hed written on the wall in his madness, that level of detail alone, flipping blows my mind
@@ezrawyvern6795 I feel they should have shown bullet holes and dried blood splatter on the cell wall when Amy rescues Sonic and the two briefly comment on it.
I just absolutely love Gerald Robotnik, he's one of the deepest Sonic characters with the most amount of lore and backstory behind him. I love Sonic Adventure 2 for introducing him and then Shadows the Hedgehogs game expanded on him and made him an even more layered and interesting character, love it.
Me too Jason. I honestly cannot wait to see how Sonic Movie 3 pulls this off since we're very likely yet to see live actors for Maria & Gerald Robotnik.
@@liamphibia you may not agree with me on this as well but I'm gonna say it, I really REALLY hope that Black Doom and the Black Arms are involved in the movie canon too. They could use some spotlight.
That's a genuinely viable possibility because of how well established aliens & extraterrestrial life is in the Sonic Movie Universe, it's how they classified Team Sonic after all.
I don't like a lot of the cutscenes or voice acting in this game. But Gerald's speech and delivery along with the music got very real, very quick and it was downright scary.
This game was my absolute favorite when I was a kid, but looking back the cutscenes and voice acting did not age well at all. However I vividly remember getting to this part and the sudden tone shift, and the ARK crashing into earth felt like an actual imminent threat.
@@A2goddess That only happens when the wrong people are in charge of the government especially if there is not enough good people to help keep the system clean. There must always be accountability and compassion to make sure the government doesn't end up making mistakes like what happened to Gerald Robotnik.
Thats why this is the BEST Sonic game plot wise. The villain is actually a world wide threat with dark motivations without being a corny reoccurring joke. Its easy to make a bad guy its hard to make a bad guy you can understand.
@@swat7385 yeah, this scene scared me as a kid, the voice from the recording, the words he said, the fact that it was making sense to me. It was a beautiful scene that made this game amazing.
Looking back on all old sonic games you could tell sega wanted sonic to be more than a platformer but now sonic has become way worse he’s become a comedy relief sassy dork character and it’s sad what the franchise has become cause every time I look at the old sonic games I could tell they really cared the fuckin critics screwed them over honestly critics don’t understand sonic and they’re the reason the meta era exists and fuckin boom and fuckin forces.
from what we've just learnt from shadow generations this action from Gerald is even more insane as we found out Maria has a sister who would still be alive in her 60s
This cutscene and remembering of the level “lost colony” really shows how dark this game is if you think just below the surface and what it all really means, I don’t know if there is a canon death count but how many of the people died during the raid while taking into consideration how big the ARK really is
Little kid me was scared shitless the first time I saw this scene after 'beating the game' twice. It's the biggest tone shift with Gerald, seriously, for a game that looks like SA2, Gerald is looking shockingly good even 20 years later...!
When I heard the beginning of this song in the last story events while professor Gerald was speaking, it felt like the most eerie moment I ever saw in my life. Not only by the fact it was something you would feel by uncovering something from the past, but also because it gives you that feel or reminds you of dreams you may have of video games and the dark secrets these may hide within themselves, but this secrets are a whole obscure realm of their own, as if you would play metroid or zelda or Luigi's Mansion and you'd uncover a secret area hidden from players for a long time, and that's what I treasure the most of sa2b. Even if lines, voice acting or everything is somewhat goofy, it goes far beyond its meaning, and it's a memory and a feeling I'll treasure forever.
I played this game a lot a decade and a half ago and I still remember this scene and the haunting nature of it. It definitely disturbed me as a kid, how someone could become so resentful that he wanted to destroy the whole world. There’s a saying that the most dangerous person is the one with nothing to lose. Gerald says how after Maria’s death he had nothing left to live for. It reminds me a bit of Joker where he had a similar mental breakdown and wanted to cause chaos to destroy the world that made him suffer. This sort of thing always leaves an impression on people because of how dangerous someone who loses everything could be.
3:52 including this page as the last one of the diary included with Sonic X Shadow Generations was a really strong choice. It brought this scene back to my mind, just as it had been when I was a kid.
this scene is terrifying, the way gerald talks is just so errie, and the text appearing on screen talking about the ark and all that stuff is like a freaking analog horror video
@@videogollumerWell technically he went insane, he will even admit his thoughts cannot be controlled anymore and even scared of his thoughts. Slowly you can see words go red indicating he is losing his sanity and he knew it. He lost everything when all he wanted was the best for humanity but his mind shattered...he became suic idal and try to take everyone with him most likely leaving only the ultimate being.
@@TehReasoning Couldn't control his actions or didn't want to? This man agreed to work for an organization he KNEW was shady; unearthed and gave them a dangerous piece of ancient technology; and made a bum deal with the overlord of a race of man-eating aliens, promising him his own planet as food for his spawn with the intention of betraying him all for a sample of his DNA. Gerald NEVER CARED about controlling himself! He kept crossing lines, making deals with devils, meddling in affairs he shouldn't have. I get that he wanted to save Maria, but he shouldn't have taken such unethical measures to do so! GUN shut the project down because they were afraid that Gerald was playing with fire, and he WAS! To be fair, so was GUN until then. GUN wanted a weapon to strike fear in the hearts of the enemies of the UF and to destroy them if they felt it necessary; but what Gerald was delving into was too frightening and destructive even for them. They went about their concerns in a very wrong way, but that doesn't mean their concerns weren't valid. Gerald could have avoided such tragedy a number of ways, but he was too caught up in his goals. In a way, he was selfish; he may have had humanity's interests in mind, but he was ultimately selfish. He cared more about his granddaughter and his VISION for the world than the world itself, and was willing to throw morality and ethics to wayside for the sake of both.
Now that I think about it, why did the G.U.N. soldiers completely ignore his warning? He was the smartest man of all time and NO ONE thought to look into his final words? Nope. Let’s just leave that giant hunk of metal orbiting above Earth and hope for the best
@@steveandjeanniefrith236 Well, saying they owe it to us came across to me as a "They better pay up, or else!". I suppose, though, that the "Here's hoping" suggests otherwise; so, sorry for my rushed conclusion.
"This is a death sentence for every human being on Earth. If my calculations are correct, The Space Colony ARK will impact the Earth in 27 minutes and 53 seconds. All of you will be destroyed along wih your beloved planet Earth. I plan to give you a taste of my revenge once all the seven Chaos Emeralds are collected. Once I initiate this program, it cannot be disabled. All of you ungrateful humans, who took everything away from me, will feel my loss and dispair!" This is more hardcore than Henry's speech in FNAF 6
@@ababble393 no he wasn’t yes he did have a sense of humour in the 90s but at least he knew when to take shit seriously like the sonic we have now in the meta era is just a sassy dumbass dork
@@Omen_Rocks123 during this same cutscenes sonic still cracked a few jokes here and there. And in unleashed and 06, what about those games? He did take stuff seriously, it was like, he never had to put up with a situation this serious since.
@@310bound Yh but gokus way worse than meta era sonic in my opinion cause literally the amount off times he’s got one shot and him losing his guard in battles and literally he doesn’t even know how to fight
You see can see clear as day the difference between how Sonic Adventure 2 and Shadow The Hedgehog handles darker and serious tones. Shadow's game constantly shoves in your face with how "mature and serious" it is by adding in guns, swearing, and some of endings where Shadow kills Eggman. It just comes off as extremely juvenile and something a 12 year old would come up with. SA2, however, builds up it's more serious moments. The drama and tension comes off as more natural since the game isn't in your face about it.
It's no different actually, only whiny kids think Shadow the Hedgehog is "too dark and edgy". Guns don't automatically mean edgy, aliens are invading the planet and causing destruction everywhere they go, what did you expect everyone to fight them with? Candy canes?! And Shadow killing Eggman is a result of the multiple ending mechanic which was done really well. Shadow the Hedgehog does build up it's serious moments, if you play on the right path, if you go on a random route to get the next ending, of course nothing is going to make sense, it's not supposed to. You're meant to pay attention and play the game numerous times to get the full story, I understood basically everything about Shadow the Hedgehog, and I'd argue that Gerald's speech in that game is just as good as the one here.
@@dartheverstar9564 Okay... 1: Why the hell did you make such a big comment in response to mine? Seriously, half of what's in yours had nothing to do with what I said. 2: Literally everything you said is your opinion. 3: You said you wanted to know whether or not Shadow was an android and that when you finished the game that question wasn't answered... except it is, during the final boss, Eggman tells Shadow that he is the real thing and not an android, he even explains that after SA2, he saved Shadow with one of his robots and that all he had was amnesia. 4: You said you stopped playing the games after Shadow the Hedgehog, but then you criticised Unleashed for having the Werehog even though you've never actually played the game, I have and the Werehog is tons of fun, but the point is that you hated on something without knowing anything about it, you're making it very difficult for me take you seriously. 5: Not playing Sonic games after Shadow the Hedgehog is really stupid, why do that? Shadow the Hedgehog doesn't define the entire series. 6: If you honestly stopped playing after Shadow I feel bad for you because it means you missed out on great games like Sonic Rush, Sonic Rush Adventure, Sonic Unleashed, Sonic and the Black Knight, Sonic Generations and DEFINITELY Sonic Mania! 7: Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 did not "nail it" on the story, there's plenty of errors in both and both leave you with a few questions (in Sonic Adventure 2's case, questions that were actually answered in Shadow the Hedgehog). When I read this in your comment I just came to the conclusion that you were one of THOSE Sonic fans, who think the Adventure games were God's gift to man and no other Sonic game even comes close, well, that's your opinion, and you can have that opinion, but in my opinion, there's plenty of Sonic games I'd rather play. 8: I didn't mention how I feel about Shadow's game because it wasn't the point, my original comment was simply explaining that the game is not as "dark and edgy" as people think, and that I believe Gerald's speech in that game was just as good as the one in SA2. But if you want my opinion, I like the game a lot, the guns didn't bother me as much as they bothered everyone because they suited Shadow and half the fanbase were asking SEGA to give Sonic a gun anyway, the swearing was also fine, "damn" and "hell" aren't the worst words in the world and it didn't seem forced to me, yes, there were moments that were too dark (the song "I am dead" immediately comes to mind), but everything else made up for it. I liked the multiple stories and the Last Story, and if you pay enough attention you'll learn that Gerald's story is probably one of the most depressing and well written of any Sonic character. So yeah, I liked the game, the gameplay was fun, it was fun playing a Sonic game where the goal wasn't just "make it to the end of the level as fast as you can", the story is good if you listen and since it's a Sonic game, the music is amazing, call me crazy but I think I like I Am All of Me more than Live and Learn. 9: A reboot is the last thing Sonic needs, look at Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric, if you think Shadow's backstory needs to be changed, play that game and we'll see what you think then. 10: I didn't call the people who think the game is bad whiny kids, I called the people who think it's too dark and edgy whiny kids, because if they honestly think Shadow the Hedgehog is too dark, they're just pathetic, let's see those people play something like Doom or Danganronpa. 11: Finally, what's your point? Are you trying to outright convince me the game is bad? And that SA2 is the best game in the series? Sorry, but you're not gonna do either, I think Shadow the Hedgehog is a great game and my favourite Sonic game is Sonic Unleashed.
To Nathan Evans, I have also played Sonic Unleashed, The Wii Version, but I still played it. To me it was and still is a unique game in the Sonic Game canon. Day for speed and Night for combat was something I enjoyed about the game.
When you realize Gerald’s diary may have also initiated the plot of sonic adventure 1 too. 🤯He did know about chaos trapped in the master emerald enough to make artificial chaos
Now that Shadow is confirmed to be in the third Sonic movie, I truly hope his backstory gets the treatment it deserves. No ridiculous Black Doom/Black Arms story, just tell the story like it was in Adventure 2 but do it even better: Put a big emphasis on Shadow's relationship with Marie and Gerald Robotnik, and ffs include Gerald's last will like it is here (though maybe tone it down somewhat for the child audience) and emphasize the internal conflict Shadow has between avenging Gerald and Marie in the name of Gerald's wishes and instead honoring Maria's wish to protect humanity instead of destroying it.
Amy should also be in the third movie too since she plays a huge role in Shadow's turn. But yeah, I agree with most of everything you said here. The only exception being Gerald's last will. I think the films should grow with its audience. While they could tone it down a bit for the sake of the younger audience, I still think they need to keep the tragic aspect intact as it would help Sonic grow as a character, and understand how even being a hero will have its bad days .
@@proto245 Agreed! Paramount CANNOT afford to make the same mistake that was made with Sonic X. The whole fanbase will be more furious than half of it already is over Frontiers!
What the fuck is so bad about Black Doom and the Black Arms being involved with Shadows creation? They add extra layers to Shadow's creation, expanded his backstory and actually helped things make more sense. They deserve some spotlight.
I've always been confused by this. If Gerald was imprisoned and killed as soon as that recording stopped, how did he program it so the video would play on the ARK as soon as the eclipse canon was activated? Also were GUN the ones who recorded all that? wouldn't they have been confused by the 'In 27 minutes your planet will be destroyed' part? lol
My guess is that Gerald somehow programmed the ARK to play the footage of his own execution when all 7 Chaos Emeralds were collected and place into the Eclipse Cannon, of course it still doesn't make sense as there's no way Gerald was able to program the ARK to play his OWN execution. Maybe he had Shadow program that footage? We know that Gerald must have left some sort of instructions for Shadow otherwise he wouldn't have known about the Eclipse Cannon or how it works, and he doesn't mention his revenge plan in the recording we see in Shadow the Hedgehog because Maria was still alive and he hadn't gone crazy yet. My understanding of the whole situation is this: Gerald makes the recording we see in Shadow the Hedgehog to inform Shadow how to stop the Black Arms when they return 50 years later, some time after he makes that recording the Government lose interest in Project Shadow (this might be due to learning of Gerald's dealings with aliens, either that or they just began to fear Shadow himself) and cut all funding to the project, Gerald continues with it anyway and the Government decide to get rid of any trace of project Shadow, which meant killing everyone on the ARK and capturing Gerald. This is obviously when Maria dies and sends Shadow to Earth, unfortunately he's captured by the Government anyway and locked away for about 50 years, after which they claim the ARK was shut down under the premise that their had been an accident to further cover up what happened. Now it's not clear whether Gerald evaded capture or was captured and managed to escape, but at some point he learns of Maria's death and goes crazy, he then somehow returns to the ARK to reprogramming the Eclipse Cannon to plummet to the Earth and destroy it when all 7 Chaos Emeralds are collected. This next part is just a guess, but since Gerald wanted Shadow to gather the Emeralds, he probably left a set of instructions detailing the functions of the Eclipse Cannon and how to make it crash into the Earth, in these instructions, he told Shadow to play his execution tape when the Emeralds are gathered, he probably knew he wouldn't live to power the Eclipse Cannon himself, he probably knew that he'd be captured and executed. A lot of "probably"s there, but the games never actually explain it themselves so I had to think of something that makes sense. It's also implied that the reason Gerald set this task to Shadow is because he wanted Shadow to stop his own crazy plan, basically the last bit of Gerald's sanity tried to stop himself from committing genocide... which is really sad when you think about it. Anyway you probably know the rest, sorry that was pretty long but I hope it helps. Edit: Oh, and GUN probably recored his execution as a sort of "last words" thing or something, I don't know.
@@nathanevans1382 that would make more sense if SHADOW was the one to have taken that execution footage and uploaded to the ark and do a worldwide broadcast. You even hear it during the biolizards release.
We all talk about how dark this is, but what I think is ever crazier is the way Gerald delivers his final message. He talks in a way in which he separates himself completely from humanity as if he isn’t a human himself. “This is a death sentence to every human being on earth.” “All of you will be destroyed, along with your beloved planet” “All of you ungrateful humans”. He talks like a man possessed. The darkness that grew within Gerald upon Maria’s death and the turn to insanity truly makes Gerald Robotnik one of the darkest, most tragic, scary and interesting villains in video game history IMO. Not to mention the eldritch horror elements with the Biolizard. Perhaps his exposure to the Black Arms planted a seed of darkness in him and all that was needed for it to sprout was a little push into insanity, that being Maria’s murder. That could have also given him his above-humanity complex, even though he is a human himself.
Possibly the darkest scene in the franchise. It was implied that he was executed after that message. The cell that Sonic was in on Prison Island was likely where the execution took place too.
I know he seems to either be alive (doubt it) or brought back to life temporarily (likely), but the Sonic 3 movie will be insane if they use Gerald's execution speech verbatim. It's really dark but also pretty great writing for the silly goofy cartoon animal series
If the third Sonic movie's really gonna do Shadow, there's a lot they potentially may have to include: Maria The Space Colony ARK Gerald Robotnik Rouge Gerald getting executed or him already being dead right off the bat G.U.N. Sonic and Shadow clashing etc
AND Amy! I'm pretty sure no one wants her role as Shadow's reformer to be taken by another person AGAIN, right? The fanbase would be outraged over opening that wound; they'd never forgive Paramount!
Idk why but that image of Gerald Robotnik on the chair chained up, the text on the wall, and the lights moving around with his head down along with the lighting disturbs me
There's something mildly amusing about the fact the voice acting in this game is largely pretty awful, but then Gerald's voicework is...actually pretty solid.
starting at 4:55 Eggman: The core of the Eclipse Cannon is now highly reactive and explosive. This is because of the energy of the Chaos Emeralds is overpowering it. If the colony collides with earth, it will shatter into pieces like my grandfather predicted! [affectionately] That mad scientist! Amy: That should be you, right? Tails: We have to stop the Space Colony, now! Eggman: The Space Colony ARK's position may have shifted due to the amount of energy given off by the Emeralds. We have to stop the energy! Tails: But... how? Rouge: Hmm, that's it. There is a way to stop the energy! [to Knuckles] We have to use your Emerald! You're the one who told me that the Master Emerald has the power to stop the Chaos Emeralds! Knuckles: That's right. [pulls out the Master Emerald] If I use this, I just might be able to stop the Chaos Emeralds!
Shadow The Hedgehog (the game) rewrote a lot of the events that happened from before. It also went over the top with multiple versions of the same story. They also kind of rewrote the story when they brought Shadow back in Heroes so... Sonic Team seems to come up with the game first, then worry about the story later. It explains why Black Doom never made an appearance prior to Shadow The Hedgehog. Sonic Adventure 2 is simply a direct sequel to Sonic Adventure 1.
i honestly want a remake that rewrites the backstory surrounding gerald a bit to make more sence and fit the canon after this game also,heroes and shadow the hedgehog should be rewritten to have the current day shadow actually be a shadow android instead of the original. it cheapened the emotional message of adventure2
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I think the scariest thing here is the massive 180 Gerald made after Maria died. He goings from believing life is sacred to wanting to end it all.
psyxypher there’s nothing creepier than that diary reading
This game actually went out of its way into delving deep into his psyche, he "went insane", and yet was still sane enough to admit it. Getting "scared because he was no longer able to control his thoughts," and as that's being said you see the words that are appearing on screen turn red and wanting it "all to end" as if he was contemplating suicide. that's darker than shadow's own game. The mind is a powerful thing; it can either accomplish great things, or be your worst enemy.
@@EclipseHedgehog Exactly.
All it takes is one bad day
@@Jayfizzle07 -joker
Super dark scene. The "Ready!" that the G.U.N. guy says after Gerald's speech is him signaling a firing squad. A firing squad in a kids game. People say that 2005's Shadow the Hedgehog had balls, but SA2 did it first.
Shadow was too over the top with the edge. This feels more natural and mature in terms of the subject matter.
@@TheMaestroMizerous
Shadow the hedgehog was pretty much the juvenile teenage version of maturity. Just add guns and over use swears cause ... “mature”.
SA2 was much more natural and subtle. There was a lot of very dark implications, but they aren’t in our faces about it. Real “maturity”.
They were about to blow his brains out.... Holy shit that's dark....
Or electrocute him
In SA1 The Ancient Echidna Tribe literally killed a bunch of Chao, then Chaos wiped out most of the echidna tribe, ending with Knuckles literally being that last of his kind, and never fully knowing why. (Unless you want you count Archie Sonic as canon but whatevs lol)
Geez. The sad thing is that Gerald when he started Project Shadow only did so because he thought he'd be able to make a cure for his granddaughter and help humanity. And then GUN ultimately boards the Space Colony ARK and kills most of everyone on there. Gerald is responsible for his actions, but GUN really screwed the pooch on this one.
That's right
When I was reading this I thought pooch said cooch honestly lol sorry
GUN is the real life US government
@@skittykitty7810 Perfectly fine.
@@bobobsen I won't deny the US government has done plenty of shady and unethical shit.
According to really obscure backstory that is what happened. He became a scientist in honor of his Grandfather whom he admired and went evil because he resented GUN for killing Gerald and always felt he was unfairly incarcerated and executed.
aliastheabnormal I don’t really blame eggman for this.Gun was responsible for all of this
he kinda was
@@PrincessTwilightdash Gerald is still accountable for his selfish nihilism that followed.
@@videogollumer Could you blame him though? After giving G.U.N. what they funded his research for, their immediate response was to raid the A.R.K., seize all of his research and and gun down multiple people, including his granddaughter?!
If this was in response to him contacting Black Doom, G.U.N. didn't think to at least CONSULT Gerald over his reason? They didn't think Gerald would've already started thinking up contingency plans for when they came back?!
Assuming G.U.N. is still canon in the modern games, I hope Dr. Eggman just kills all of those bastards one day! They definitely deserve the bullets they put in Maria and Gerald to be shot back at 'em!
@@ceecee6521 As a matter of fact, yes, I can.
You're right; G.U.N. was wrong, especially to gun Maria down! Don't think I don't understand the situation. Gunning a 12 year old girl down? What were they thinking?! What kind of military defense force ARE they?! That's like shooting Amy to death!
That being said, just because his granddaughter was killed and research rejected by G.U.N. does NOT give him the right to punish the WHOLE WORLD for G.U.N.'s crimes. If you're gonna take revenge, do it to the people who ACTUALLY WRONGED YOU, not those who DIDN'T! He could have planted nano-bombs in every nook and cranny of G.U.N.'s headquarters, and I wouldn't blame him; but he targeted innocent people for reasons that they had nothing to do with.
Furthermore, listen to how he talks. He's not just trying to destroy humanity; he's trying to pass judgment on it! He thinks himself to be a god! He has a god complex, and that's the reason for his dark turnaround! "Oh! You ungrateful humans! I was trying to help you, but the fact that a few of you killed my granddaughter and rejected my genius means that you're all alike! So, I'm going to destroy ALL of you!". He had an ego even before G.U.N. wronged him! Yes, he was trying to save his granddaughter's life, but he let his "brilliant mind" blind him into thinking that he knew what was best for humanity and that he had the right to pass judgment on it! It doesn't matter if he had good intentions; I can't respect such hubris.
Lastly, I'd like to point out that the tragedy happened over 50 years ago in continuity, meaning that everyone who was a member of G.U.N. back then is either dead or retired by now. Either way, none of those people are working for G.U.N anymore; pretty much every member now is of a new generation. Would it be right to kill them all for the crimes of their predecessors?
It’s really unsettling to think that if Gerald’s video had continued for a few more seconds, we would’ve seen him get riddled with bullets from a firing squad
And probably ESRB tagged T .
"All you ungrateful humans who took everything away from me will feel my loss and despair!"
That line still haunts me. I never forgot the way it was delivered and the emotion behind it.
OMG im not the only one. For YEARS I remember this scene vividly because of how he delivered that line. It scared the shit out of 13 year old me
Yesss there is just something about that line, ive always felt it too
Dude yes. I was just a kid when I first finished this game. That line hit hard. It still does tbh
Hey, Gerald! Your son (Eggman's dad) and/or grandson (Eggman himself) are still on the planet you want to destroy! Something tells me you don't care about them and have been playing favorites with Maria!
@@videogollumer eggman’s dad is likely dead or wasn’t friends with him
It would make sense. After all, in Eggman's eyes, his grandfather was a scientific hero, wrongfully imprisoned and murdered by sightless fools who feared progress, leading him to become a ruthless industrialist who cares little for those who suffer in the name of technological advancement.
tacoman422 you mean robotnik? Gerald robotnik is not eggman mate
Adrian, I think you might’ve misread their comment.
@@ugandaknuckles5691 they are, eggman is a nickname
he kinda was
Robotnik si robotnik
Man, I love the story of this game so much. Gerald managed to be a truly terrifying villain, even from beyond the grave.
I love the darker tone of these older Sonic games.
This and Metal Gear Solid 1 when Snake got calls by fake master miller and Colonel Campbell got arrested by creepy guy!
They're going back to this tone in the new games!!! Albeit in a more abstract sense, but weird shit like genocide is once again a major theme
You know, now that I've seen this cutscene again, it's more disturbing that Robotnik said he would have done it himself, and the awe and admiration that he has when he speaks of his grandfather here.
Wait, I’m confused then. If Eggman said he would’ve done it himself and shows admiration towards his grandfather, then why is he helping them stop it?
@@rockamillion2002 Because if the ark collides with earth it will not only shatter the Earth but explode the ark and kill him too
@@rockamillion2002 that was in response to Knuckles asking him to stop it. Eggman has never wanted to destroy the planet, but merely rule, hence his switching morality at times. Of course, he was perfecting okay with blowing it up if earth didn't surrender to him.
@@Bornagainvillain The man has a very Tartarean mind indeed.
@@Bornagainvillain i think he was going to use it at low power to destroy major cities one by one until the remaining survivors surrendered, akin to an interrogator chopping off fingers until the one being tortured squeals
the reason he wanted all 7 was because it would allow him to fire the cannon willy nilly, as opposed to the (likely) unwieldy cooldown of the cannon with less emeralds
yeah to those who say these stories arnt well thought out, flipping that video of Gerald, was literally moments before being gunned the crap down by the execution squad as he was chained to a chair in his cell with a metric ton of equations hed written on the wall in his madness, that level of detail alone, flipping blows my mind
In fact, that same cell is where Sonic ends up on Prison Island.
@@ezrawyvern6795 I feel they should have shown bullet holes and dried blood splatter on the cell wall when Amy rescues Sonic and the two briefly comment on it.
HOL UP
REALLY
Eyo maybe that's a bit too violent for a series like this
It's creepy how Gerald himself became scared with his sudden change to destructive thoughts.
I think he was aware that he was losing control of his own morality, and after a certain point, it was just too late.
Theres something scary about someone calling himself insane in a non ironical way
The unjust deaths of loved ones will do that
I just absolutely love Gerald Robotnik, he's one of the deepest Sonic characters with the most amount of lore and backstory behind him.
I love Sonic Adventure 2 for introducing him and then Shadows the Hedgehogs game expanded on him and made him an even more layered and interesting character, love it.
Me too Jason.
I honestly cannot wait to see how Sonic Movie 3 pulls this off since we're very likely yet to see live actors for Maria & Gerald Robotnik.
@@liamphibia you may not agree with me on this as well but I'm gonna say it, I really REALLY hope that Black Doom and the Black Arms are involved in the movie canon too. They could use some spotlight.
That's a genuinely viable possibility because of how well established aliens & extraterrestrial life is in the Sonic Movie Universe, it's how they classified Team Sonic after all.
Dr. Robotnik… a potential *Imagi Studios* anti-hero
Dr. Eggman… a silly clown (2010)
@@AFeralTrout420 I really hope they aren't
If the third movie is going to be based on the Adventure series, then *man* are we in for a ride.
The 3rd movie have the storylines of this game and Shadow the Hedgehog 2005.
so how do you feel now?
@thatguynamedjosh6004 not a big fan of how he's alive and played by Jim Carry
I don't like a lot of the cutscenes or voice acting in this game. But Gerald's speech and delivery along with the music got very real, very quick and it was downright scary.
This game was my absolute favorite when I was a kid, but looking back the cutscenes and voice acting did not age well at all. However I vividly remember getting to this part and the sudden tone shift, and the ARK crashing into earth felt like an actual imminent threat.
I will always like the voice acting Deem Bristow Even shadows voice is the best shadow voice
The humans look hella ugly in the CGI cutscenes
@@dartheverstar9564 oh for sure. I loved the story as a kid
I still get chills to this day whenever I come across this scene. Gerald’s actor knocked this out of the park.
The creepiest and most tense moment in the franchise
It's even more creepier is that how governments are corrupted
Easily one of the most disturbing moments in the Sonic franchise. I memorised the diary, and boy, it left me with nightmares as a kid.
not really
@@PikaBolaChan actually yeah like how the government lied about the covid-19 cases and it's citizens making it worse by saying it's not deadly.
@@A2goddess That only happens when the wrong people are in charge of the government especially if there is not enough good people to help keep the system clean. There must always be accountability and compassion to make sure the government doesn't end up making mistakes like what happened to Gerald Robotnik.
Thats why this is the BEST Sonic game plot wise. The villain is actually a world wide threat with dark motivations without being a corny reoccurring joke. Its easy to make a bad guy its hard to make a bad guy you can understand.
Sa1
god i forgot how ridiculously loud the music is in the cutscenes for this game
Gamecube version
I cried when I played the game and saw the this...I was scared, confused and sad, I felt bad for Dr. Gerald Robotnik...
Even though he tried to destroy the entire population and kill everyone on the planet, So do i
@@swat7385 yeah, this scene scared me as a kid, the voice from the recording, the words he said, the fact that it was making sense to me.
It was a beautiful scene that made this game amazing.
Looking back on all old sonic games you could tell sega wanted sonic to be more than a platformer but now sonic has become way worse he’s become a comedy relief sassy dork character and it’s sad what the franchise has become cause every time I look at the old sonic games I could tell they really cared the fuckin critics screwed them over honestly critics don’t understand sonic and they’re the reason the meta era exists and fuckin boom and fuckin forces.
from what we've just learnt from shadow generations this action from Gerald is even more insane as we found out Maria has a sister who would still be alive in her 60s
This cutscene and remembering of the level “lost colony” really shows how dark this game is if you think just below the surface and what it all really means, I don’t know if there is a canon death count but how many of the people died during the raid while taking into consideration how big the ARK really is
The thing is, we don't know how big the ARK is, because we've never gotten a scale on how huge it is
Little kid me was scared shitless the first time I saw this scene after 'beating the game' twice. It's the biggest tone shift with Gerald, seriously, for a game that looks like SA2, Gerald is looking shockingly good even 20 years later...!
When I heard the beginning of this song in the last story events while professor Gerald was speaking, it felt like the most eerie moment I ever saw in my life. Not only by the fact it was something you would feel by uncovering something from the past, but also because it gives you that feel or reminds you of dreams you may have of video games and the dark secrets these may hide within themselves, but this secrets are a whole obscure realm of their own, as if you would play metroid or zelda or Luigi's Mansion and you'd uncover a secret area hidden from players for a long time, and that's what I treasure the most of sa2b. Even if lines, voice acting or everything is somewhat goofy, it goes far beyond its meaning, and it's a memory and a feeling I'll treasure forever.
Well said
Jim Carrey: What the? What's going on? Why the hell doesn't the cannon fire? Agent Stone what's happening here? It's my Grandfather! Gerald Robotnik!
why would the actor be speaking it would be ivo robotnik
I played this game a lot a decade and a half ago and I still remember this scene and the haunting nature of it. It definitely disturbed me as a kid, how someone could become so resentful that he wanted to destroy the whole world. There’s a saying that the most dangerous person is the one with nothing to lose. Gerald says how after Maria’s death he had nothing left to live for. It reminds me a bit of Joker where he had a similar mental breakdown and wanted to cause chaos to destroy the world that made him suffer. This sort of thing always leaves an impression on people because of how dangerous someone who loses everything could be.
3:52 including this page as the last one of the diary included with Sonic X Shadow Generations was a really strong choice. It brought this scene back to my mind, just as it had been when I was a kid.
I love seeing everyone, including Eggman working together.
I've been quoting, "LET'S GET TO WORK!!!" my whole life omg lol.
I say it before I start doing serious labor at any job I do, it literally keeps me going lmao
This is genuinely haunting and it’s not just nostalgia saying that
Ah yes, I miss the moments where the music comes on and completely deafens the voice acting!
when you realized the sonic franchise wouldn't happen if gun didn't invade the ark
And now the "This is all your fault" award goes to...
*GUN!*
Yes, it does. They are responsible for every bad thing on the series.
And now GUN is in the movies. 😂
@@catalyst539 Gerald could have prevented it; Eggman could have prevented; neither of them did.
this scene is terrifying, the way gerald talks is just so errie, and the text appearing on screen talking about the ark and all that stuff is like a freaking analog horror video
Did they just watch an execution tape
not only that, it was broadcasted to the entire world
Imagine some guy recording your execution and have it broadcasted to the entire world
@@theblizzard8735 Also imagine trying to kill billions because of what a few people did.
@@videogollumerWell technically he went insane, he will even admit his thoughts cannot be controlled anymore and even scared of his thoughts. Slowly you can see words go red indicating he is losing his sanity and he knew it.
He lost everything when all he wanted was the best for humanity but his mind shattered...he became suic idal and try to take everyone with him most likely leaving only the ultimate being.
@@TehReasoning Couldn't control his actions or didn't want to? This man agreed to work for an organization he KNEW was shady; unearthed and gave them a dangerous piece of ancient technology; and made a bum deal with the overlord of a race of man-eating aliens, promising him his own planet as food for his spawn with the intention of betraying him all for a sample of his DNA. Gerald NEVER CARED about controlling himself! He kept crossing lines, making deals with devils, meddling in affairs he shouldn't have. I get that he wanted to save Maria, but he shouldn't have taken such unethical measures to do so!
GUN shut the project down because they were afraid that Gerald was playing with fire, and he WAS! To be fair, so was GUN until then. GUN wanted a weapon to strike fear in the hearts of the enemies of the UF and to destroy them if they felt it necessary; but what Gerald was delving into was too frightening and destructive even for them. They went about their concerns in a very wrong way, but that doesn't mean their concerns weren't valid.
Gerald could have avoided such tragedy a number of ways, but he was too caught up in his goals. In a way, he was selfish; he may have had humanity's interests in mind, but he was ultimately selfish. He cared more about his granddaughter and his VISION for the world than the world itself, and was willing to throw morality and ethics to wayside for the sake of both.
Now that I think about it, why did the G.U.N. soldiers completely ignore his warning? He was the smartest man of all time and NO ONE thought to look into his final words? Nope. Let’s just leave that giant hunk of metal orbiting above Earth and hope for the best
Technically it was a threat, not a warning; but hey, I'm not a grammar teacher.
Here's hoping Sonic 3 movie has the balls to adapt this backstory fully. They owe it to the fans.
I feel like gerald might be in sonic 3
Woah there! They've already given us so much with Sonic 2; let's not start making passive aggressive threats! Give them a little faith.
@@videogollumer Its not passive aggressive. Its encouragement.
@@steveandjeanniefrith236 Well, saying they owe it to us came across to me as a "They better pay up, or else!". I suppose, though, that the "Here's hoping" suggests otherwise; so, sorry for my rushed conclusion.
@@videogollumer OK dude. Easy mistake. Remember never judge a book by its cover.
Boy
Can't wait to see this adapted in the 3rd movie .
People will be traumatized
Eggman got really enthusiastic at the end there huh. 'Let's get to *WOOOOOOOORK* '
"This is a death sentence for every human being on Earth. If my calculations are correct, The Space Colony ARK will impact the Earth in 27 minutes and 53 seconds. All of you will be destroyed along wih your beloved planet Earth. I plan to give you a taste of my revenge once all the seven Chaos Emeralds are collected. Once I initiate this program, it cannot be disabled. All of you ungrateful humans, who took everything away from me, will feel my loss and dispair!"
This is more hardcore than Henry's speech in FNAF 6
Sonic literally went from this to a comedy relief character
Sonic was always comedic relief
@@ababble393 no he wasn’t yes he did have a sense of humour in the 90s but at least he knew when to take shit seriously like the sonic we have now in the meta era is just a sassy dumbass dork
@@Omen_Rocks123 during this same cutscenes sonic still cracked a few jokes here and there. And in unleashed and 06, what about those games? He did take stuff seriously, it was like, he never had to put up with a situation this serious since.
@@Omen_Rocks123 they did sonic just like they did Goku…
@@310bound Yh but gokus way worse than meta era sonic in my opinion cause literally the amount off times he’s got one shot and him losing his guard in battles and literally he doesn’t even know how to fight
You see can see clear as day the difference between how Sonic Adventure 2 and Shadow The Hedgehog handles darker and serious tones. Shadow's game constantly shoves in your face with how "mature and serious" it is by adding in guns, swearing, and some of endings where Shadow kills Eggman. It just comes off as extremely juvenile and something a 12 year old would come up with. SA2, however, builds up it's more serious moments. The drama and tension comes off as more natural since the game isn't in your face about it.
It's no different actually, only whiny kids think Shadow the Hedgehog is "too dark and edgy". Guns don't automatically mean edgy, aliens are invading the planet and causing destruction everywhere they go, what did you expect everyone to fight them with? Candy canes?! And Shadow killing Eggman is a result of the multiple ending mechanic which was done really well. Shadow the Hedgehog does build up it's serious moments, if you play on the right path, if you go on a random route to get the next ending, of course nothing is going to make sense, it's not supposed to. You're meant to pay attention and play the game numerous times to get the full story, I understood basically everything about Shadow the Hedgehog, and I'd argue that Gerald's speech in that game is just as good as the one here.
@@dartheverstar9564 Okay...
1: Why the hell did you make such a big comment in response to mine? Seriously, half of what's in yours had nothing to do with what I said.
2: Literally everything you said is your opinion.
3: You said you wanted to know whether or not Shadow was an android and that when you finished the game that question wasn't answered... except it is, during the final boss, Eggman tells Shadow that he is the real thing and not an android, he even explains that after SA2, he saved Shadow with one of his robots and that all he had was amnesia.
4: You said you stopped playing the games after Shadow the Hedgehog, but then you criticised Unleashed for having the Werehog even though you've never actually played the game, I have and the Werehog is tons of fun, but the point is that you hated on something without knowing anything about it, you're making it very difficult for me take you seriously.
5: Not playing Sonic games after Shadow the Hedgehog is really stupid, why do that? Shadow the Hedgehog doesn't define the entire series.
6: If you honestly stopped playing after Shadow I feel bad for you because it means you missed out on great games like Sonic Rush, Sonic Rush Adventure, Sonic Unleashed, Sonic and the Black Knight, Sonic Generations and DEFINITELY Sonic Mania!
7: Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 did not "nail it" on the story, there's plenty of errors in both and both leave you with a few questions (in Sonic Adventure 2's case, questions that were actually answered in Shadow the Hedgehog). When I read this in your comment I just came to the conclusion that you were one of THOSE Sonic fans, who think the Adventure games were God's gift to man and no other Sonic game even comes close, well, that's your opinion, and you can have that opinion, but in my opinion, there's plenty of Sonic games I'd rather play.
8: I didn't mention how I feel about Shadow's game because it wasn't the point, my original comment was simply explaining that the game is not as "dark and edgy" as people think, and that I believe Gerald's speech in that game was just as good as the one in SA2. But if you want my opinion, I like the game a lot, the guns didn't bother me as much as they bothered everyone because they suited Shadow and half the fanbase were asking SEGA to give Sonic a gun anyway, the swearing was also fine, "damn" and "hell" aren't the worst words in the world and it didn't seem forced to me, yes, there were moments that were too dark (the song "I am dead" immediately comes to mind), but everything else made up for it. I liked the multiple stories and the Last Story, and if you pay enough attention you'll learn that Gerald's story is probably one of the most depressing and well written of any Sonic character. So yeah, I liked the game, the gameplay was fun, it was fun playing a Sonic game where the goal wasn't just "make it to the end of the level as fast as you can", the story is good if you listen and since it's a Sonic game, the music is amazing, call me crazy but I think I like I Am All of Me more than Live and Learn.
9: A reboot is the last thing Sonic needs, look at Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric, if you think Shadow's backstory needs to be changed, play that game and we'll see what you think then.
10: I didn't call the people who think the game is bad whiny kids, I called the people who think it's too dark and edgy whiny kids, because if they honestly think Shadow the Hedgehog is too dark, they're just pathetic, let's see those people play something like Doom or Danganronpa.
11: Finally, what's your point? Are you trying to outright convince me the game is bad? And that SA2 is the best game in the series? Sorry, but you're not gonna do either, I think Shadow the Hedgehog is a great game and my favourite Sonic game is Sonic Unleashed.
To Nathan Evans, I have also played Sonic Unleashed, The Wii Version, but I still played it.
To me it was and still is a unique game in the Sonic Game canon.
Day for speed and Night for combat was something I enjoyed about the game.
@@nathanevans1382 that’s a lot of good points
@@NickMario1 The guy I replied to must have thought so too because it looks like he deleted his comment.
When you realize Gerald’s diary may have also initiated the plot of sonic adventure 1 too. 🤯He did know about chaos trapped in the master emerald enough to make artificial chaos
This unironically scared the fuck out of me as a kid
This and Metal Gear Solid 1 when Snake got calls by fake master miller and Colonel Campbell got arrested by creepy guy!
Now that Shadow is confirmed to be in the third Sonic movie, I truly hope his backstory gets the treatment it deserves. No ridiculous Black Doom/Black Arms story, just tell the story like it was in Adventure 2 but do it even better: Put a big emphasis on Shadow's relationship with Marie and Gerald Robotnik, and ffs include Gerald's last will like it is here (though maybe tone it down somewhat for the child audience) and emphasize the internal conflict Shadow has between avenging Gerald and Marie in the name of Gerald's wishes and instead honoring Maria's wish to protect humanity instead of destroying it.
Amy should also be in the third movie too since she plays a huge role in Shadow's turn. But yeah, I agree with most of everything you said here. The only exception being Gerald's last will. I think the films should grow with its audience. While they could tone it down a bit for the sake of the younger audience,
I still think they need to keep the tragic aspect intact as it would help Sonic grow as a character, and understand how even being a hero will have its bad days .
@@proto245 Agreed! Paramount CANNOT afford to make the same mistake that was made with Sonic X. The whole fanbase will be more furious than half of it already is over Frontiers!
What the fuck is so bad about Black Doom and the Black Arms being involved with Shadows creation? They add extra layers to Shadow's creation, expanded his backstory and actually helped things make more sense. They deserve some spotlight.
If you think that story was ridiculous you definitely haven't played sa2 lmao.
I remember playing sa2 when I was seven and saw this cutscene I was so scared truly one of the darkest scenes in Sonic
Dark without being edgelord. 👍
That took a dark turn 2:08
I've always been confused by this. If Gerald was imprisoned and killed as soon as that recording stopped, how did he program it so the video would play on the ARK as soon as the eclipse canon was activated?
Also were GUN the ones who recorded all that? wouldn't they have been confused by the 'In 27 minutes your planet will be destroyed' part? lol
Probably just thought he was nuts lol
My guess is that Gerald somehow programmed the ARK to play the footage of his own execution when all 7 Chaos Emeralds were collected and place into the Eclipse Cannon, of course it still doesn't make sense as there's no way Gerald was able to program the ARK to play his OWN execution. Maybe he had Shadow program that footage? We know that Gerald must have left some sort of instructions for Shadow otherwise he wouldn't have known about the Eclipse Cannon or how it works, and he doesn't mention his revenge plan in the recording we see in Shadow the Hedgehog because Maria was still alive and he hadn't gone crazy yet. My understanding of the whole situation is this: Gerald makes the recording we see in Shadow the Hedgehog to inform Shadow how to stop the Black Arms when they return 50 years later, some time after he makes that recording the Government lose interest in Project Shadow (this might be due to learning of Gerald's dealings with aliens, either that or they just began to fear Shadow himself) and cut all funding to the project, Gerald continues with it anyway and the Government decide to get rid of any trace of project Shadow, which meant killing everyone on the ARK and capturing Gerald. This is obviously when Maria dies and sends Shadow to Earth, unfortunately he's captured by the Government anyway and locked away for about 50 years, after which they claim the ARK was shut down under the premise that their had been an accident to further cover up what happened. Now it's not clear whether Gerald evaded capture or was captured and managed to escape, but at some point he learns of Maria's death and goes crazy, he then somehow returns to the ARK to reprogramming the Eclipse Cannon to plummet to the Earth and destroy it when all 7 Chaos Emeralds are collected. This next part is just a guess, but since Gerald wanted Shadow to gather the Emeralds, he probably left a set of instructions detailing the functions of the Eclipse Cannon and how to make it crash into the Earth, in these instructions, he told Shadow to play his execution tape when the Emeralds are gathered, he probably knew he wouldn't live to power the Eclipse Cannon himself, he probably knew that he'd be captured and executed. A lot of "probably"s there, but the games never actually explain it themselves so I had to think of something that makes sense. It's also implied that the reason Gerald set this task to Shadow is because he wanted Shadow to stop his own crazy plan, basically the last bit of Gerald's sanity tried to stop himself from committing genocide... which is really sad when you think about it. Anyway you probably know the rest, sorry that was pretty long but I hope it helps.
Edit: Oh, and GUN probably recored his execution as a sort of "last words" thing or something, I don't know.
@@nathanevans1382 that would make more sense if SHADOW was the one to have taken that execution footage and uploaded to the ark and do a worldwide broadcast. You even hear it during the biolizards release.
I always assumed the ARK was being haunted by Gerald’s vengeful spirit. After all this was the game that brought ghosts back from Sonic 3 & Knuckles
"This space colony ARK is currently approaching earth at an incredible velocity"
Stars in the background: no, I don't think you are
Gravity is wierd in the Station. Maybe they are in a room which has its Floor pointed away from the earth?
Sonic movie 3: follows Adventure 2
GUN to Gerald: How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?
The ARK hurdles towards earth, yet when you look out the window, everything is still and calm.
The image of him sitting there is scary in itself, but it put so much emotion and fear in the actual story
We all talk about how dark this is, but what I think is ever crazier is the way Gerald delivers his final message. He talks in a way in which he separates himself completely from humanity as if he isn’t a human himself.
“This is a death sentence to every human being on earth.”
“All of you will be destroyed, along with your beloved planet”
“All of you ungrateful humans”.
He talks like a man possessed. The darkness that grew within Gerald upon Maria’s death and the turn to insanity truly makes Gerald Robotnik one of the darkest, most tragic, scary and interesting villains in video game history IMO. Not to mention the eldritch horror elements with the Biolizard.
Perhaps his exposure to the Black Arms planted a seed of darkness in him and all that was needed for it to sprout was a little push into insanity, that being Maria’s murder. That could have also given him his above-humanity complex, even though he is a human himself.
This has to be the Darkest Part in the entire game
Possibly the darkest scene in the franchise. It was implied that he was executed after that message. The cell that Sonic was in on Prison Island was likely where the execution took place too.
@@Darkstar263 That actually was Gerald's cell that Sonic was in on Prison Island.
I know he seems to either be alive (doubt it) or brought back to life temporarily (likely), but the Sonic 3 movie will be insane if they use Gerald's execution speech verbatim. It's really dark but also pretty great writing for the silly goofy cartoon animal series
“Leave it to me! I’m the world’s fastest hedgehog! 😄”
*“THEN LET’S GET TO WORK.”*
“😒”
Paramount doesn't have the balls.
Oh no?
We all get our answer in 2023 game awards show.
I remember playing this as a kid I told my cousin there’s another part, it was so creepy watching it as a 5 or 6 year old
Worst case scenario it lands in the ocean and creates a tile wave that would most likely flood the eastern seaboard.
Geralds design gave me nightmares as a kid lol
Ok SONIC 3 MOVIE DEVELOPERS, Paramount, this right here, should be your next plot, because u know, Sonic 2 ending credits 😏
Man, I can't help but feel bad for Maria Robotnik. She deserved better.
Yeah, she got shot to death and her grandpa lied to her best friend about her wishes for the sake of his own pettiness!
@@videogollumer So how is wanting revenge on those who killed his own granddaughter petty?
@@thefastcommenter7774 the entire planet?
@@ablunt-headedtreesnake6094 Yiu don't know what greiving does to people
Eggman: "That mad scientist!"
Amy: "That should be you right?"
Amy's savage moment
Nihgurh Zzz no it was Amy
OOOOOHHHHHHHH!!!
Kidnapping is one thing, but trying to blow up the Earth is another. Not even Eggman in that nuts. (Unless you count Unleashed, I guess, lol)
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Old sega:- makes dark stories about characters
New sega:- if it isn't funny then it ain't getting accepted
Old Sonic: Yuji Naka
New Sonic: Takashi Iizuka
I think we know the problem here.
@@adamdenardis5438 Takashi WORKED on this game!
This is easily the best story in any sonic game
1:57 I wonder if Mike Pollock will cover this line in Dark Beginnings or Shadow Generations. That would be sick!
I'm so sorry for your grandfather egg man☹
You expect villains to have happy backstories? Then they wouldn't be villains. Heck look at Shadow's.
He tried to destroy the entire world for what GUN did! That's unjustified no matter HOW you squeeze it!
@@adamdenardis5438 True but nobody perfect and no one deserves to be killed, remember that!
"I wanted the last thing I breath to be pot"
The subtitles had a mistake. When Rouge and Gerald read about the prototype, the words “the prototype” were omitted.
I would love a version of this in Sonic 3
Well. That's unexpectedly creepy.
It certainly was.
1:18 the most disturbing part of all this is this child
I think it’s dark that they even included eggman’s grandpas death or they did not but that was sad that they still showed his final words
G.U.N. is to blame for the murder of Maria. Because of them, Gerald snapped and decided to destroy earth.
Professor Gerald looks too real.
I WENT INSANE
Gerald we feel your pain long live Gerald robotnik
If the third Sonic movie's really gonna do Shadow, there's a lot they potentially may have to include:
Maria
The Space Colony ARK
Gerald Robotnik
Rouge
Gerald getting executed or him already being dead right off the bat
G.U.N.
Sonic and Shadow clashing
etc
Don’t forget biolizard
AND Amy! I'm pretty sure no one wants her role as Shadow's reformer to be taken by another person AGAIN, right? The fanbase would be outraged over opening that wound; they'd never forgive Paramount!
Don't forget the Black Arms too!!
@@AFeralTrout420 Yeah, don't forget Black Doom and the Black Comet.
Thumbs up if TV Tropes brought you here.
Idk why but that image of Gerald Robotnik on the chair chained up, the text on the wall, and the lights moving around with his head down along with the lighting disturbs me
That sounds like the same alarm from Resident Evil Code Veronica
1:00 it probably... will impact earth. 😃
Just remember, guys, this is a family game. 🤣 Sure, Jan.
Sonic adventures deserves a remaster best lore and chao Island which is what everyone wants not a remaster of there newer games
The chaogarden MUST COME BACK!
Try saying Sonic has shit stories after seeing this.
I Hate How In The Final Battle If You Dont Win. You Feel Like You Left All 7 Billion People To Die.
I do wonder how Sonic 3 will handle this scene.
Ya know, the line interruptions made this less creepy lol
no it made it more creepy
The music whilst the diary is being read makes the entire thing creepy regardless of what’s being said
Girls:do you have real emotion you did not cry at titanic
Boys:
This is on par with House of The Dead's backstory.
That fucking moment when you can barely hear the voices over the music. Lmao.
SEGA Fan Boy here I love sonic Alot but this is one of the darkest sonic games I ever played.
1:22 Ross and Rachel from Friends
Remember this will be in sonic 3 movie
I hope so
“Pop-pop…?”
“In the saggy flesh”
Rouge....I CAN NOT HEAR YOU!
There's something mildly amusing about the fact the voice acting in this game is largely pretty awful, but then Gerald's voicework is...actually pretty solid.
Like if this is the scariest thing in sonic history
Obviously, you never heard of Sonic Schoolhouse
starting at 4:55 Eggman: The core of the Eclipse Cannon is now highly reactive and explosive. This is because of the energy of the Chaos Emeralds is overpowering it. If the colony collides with earth, it will shatter into pieces like my grandfather predicted! [affectionately] That mad scientist!
Amy: That should be you, right?
Tails: We have to stop the Space Colony, now!
Eggman: The Space Colony ARK's position may have shifted due to the amount of energy given off by the Emeralds. We have to stop the energy!
Tails: But... how?
Rouge: Hmm, that's it. There is a way to stop the energy! [to Knuckles] We have to use your Emerald! You're the one who told me that the Master Emerald has the power to stop the Chaos Emeralds!
Knuckles: That's right. [pulls out the Master Emerald] If I use this, I just might be able to stop the Chaos Emeralds!
Gerald speech video is like Heath Ledgers joker video from the dark knight
Wasn't space colony ark supposed to be for the black doom thing
Shadow The Hedgehog (the game) rewrote a lot of the events that happened from before. It also went over the top with multiple versions of the same story. They also kind of rewrote the story when they brought Shadow back in Heroes so... Sonic Team seems to come up with the game first, then worry about the story later. It explains why Black Doom never made an appearance prior to Shadow The Hedgehog. Sonic Adventure 2 is simply a direct sequel to Sonic Adventure 1.
This was before Black Doom. Heroes and Shadow The Hedgehog fuck up the canon of the series with stuff like that.
@@adamdenardis5438 thx I was wondering that
i honestly want a remake that rewrites the backstory surrounding gerald a bit to make more sence and fit the canon after this game
also,heroes and shadow the hedgehog should be rewritten to have the current day shadow actually be a shadow android instead of the original. it cheapened the emotional message of adventure2
Wait so Gerald is eggmans grandfather and Maria is Gerald's granddaughter, so what are eggman and maria
UnstableCubone Eggman and Maria are cousins
@@keonh.2679 Ivo and Maria. They are both Robotniks.
More precisely, Overlanders. They have keen genius intellect.