3:44 it's kinda Sad hearing her Colleen growing up She is 53 years old Yet she can still giving the same tails vibe Just...I can feel that age is staring to get to her
Are we sure it's Colleen and not Kate yet? They got Kate back for new lines in SCU but they both sound so similar I genuinely can't tell who's who here.
I often think Ian genuinely cares about the Time Stones way more than Sega ever did. He even made it Silver's way to actually time travel by himself in Archie instead of the current Fast Friends Forever's "the universe just farts a portal in front of Silver when the timeline is in danger with no explanation or logistics behind it whatsoever".
The rewritten diologue is mostly pretty solid. The untouched animations in most cutscenes and voice direction do look a bit awkward, though. For example, when Knuckles asked Classic Sonic where the rest of Angel Island was, sonic rubbing his belly makes it look like he ate the island. It's hilarious. 😂
Nerdy fanservice aside it was pretty annoying how slow the characters were to understand and accept time travel in the original version, as if they never dealed with time travel before when there's multiple games of them time traveling, and also the series in general constantly dealing with crazy shit like that. And all for the sake of having some totally self aware and hilarious "so let me get this straight... I'm somewhere that's not what I would call Earth...... I'm seeing FREAKING dragons, and... oh yeah I'm talking to a cuff!" Forspoken aah dialogue. Like cmon, we get it's a time travel thing don't dwell on characters processing their situation so long when there's no reason to, we get it's a fantastical situation you don't gotta shove it down the audience's throat. Also the callbacks help reinforce the idea that they're traveling to the past while in the original version they don't even seem to recognize the past locations.
The dialogue makes more sense this time. In the original, Sonic didn't even recognize Green Hill. It's like he had amnesia. Also, Shadow's "On your feet" fits much better than "You got this, Sonic" and Kirk's delivery is way better.
I'm so happy they added dialog when you rescue his friends. Its just so awkward that he doesn't say anything just like Classic Sonic. I'm liking the changes over the original, especially the audio quality. Just something about the old recordings seem really off.
I don’t like the one where modern Sonic saves Amy it remove the acknowledgment of Amy’s feelings for him and also sonic kind of seems like an asshole now due to his reaction after Amy saying that if sonic new dialogue was combined with Amy’s old dialogue, it actually would’ve been fine
Nonono there's a totally rational explanation for it, I swear! He also has secret phasing powers where he phases the food through his hand as a means of checking nutritional value!
28:22 this is the one thing that they haven’t changed his laughter still sounds exactly the same as the old one. I’m not complaining I’m just pointing that out
12:20 love how they changed the line to “older versions of us” Putting it in place classic sonic and tails are younger versions of the modern ones which is cool
Yeah, in the original Classic Sonic and Tails were planed to be versions of another dimensión because in the end of The Game they created.the Manía Universe. But how recently SEGA just destroyed the manía Universe they need to make a change.
Not really. They only said that because it’s a celebration of Sonic. Classic and Modern Sonic were never meant to be the same. Modern Sonic is 15 and Classic Sonic is 16.
When they said older versions they means older versions. Not as in their younger selves. They meant then from the past games. Not them in the literal past.
@@crashban4t.f.s.b783 that’s not how that works? If they said “older versions of us” there’s not really any other way to take it? There white literally pointing out there older versions of themselves age wise 🧍♂️
@@crowina_nutshell The Time Stones are powerful gem stones that debutted in Sonic CD (The same game that introduced Amy and Metal) which can manipulate time
Honestly I don’t mind that, I know a lot of Amy Rose fans don’t seemed to like that, but for me unfortunately I don’t really care, cause growing up as a kid I was never a fan of Amy always chasing after Sonic, complaining about him missing their dates when it’s obvious that Sonic isn’t interested in dating, while Amy was written fine in the adventure games, but since then Amy was basically written to be just a simp towards Sonic, so of course Sega and Sonic Team had to make Amy a more mature and likeable character, sure she still has her usual crush on Sonic, but at least she's not as over obsessed to Sonic as she was in the early games, I get that people liked Amy fine the way she was, but sadly not everyone including myself were fans of Amy being an obsessive fan girl, cause not only do some fans find her annoying, but some fans even find her a bit unlikeable, so of course Sega had to change her character for the better.
I honestly kinda prefer Amy trying to hug him and he just pushes her back by her face to just her offering him cupcakes edit: I thought this comment was respectful enough, but damn if the replies haven't blown up
One of the things about Ian Flynn's writing that bugs me is that he tries to make it so that Amy has as little romantic interest in Sonic as possible, which kind of removes the whole point of her being a fangirl with a massive crush on Sonic. And no, I'm not complaining that they made her "woke." I'm fine with her being capable of defending herself and being her own person. That's what her whole campaign in SA1 was about. But a big part of her character that makes her stick out is the fact that she's constantly trying to show some affection for Sonic, even if it gets on his nerves.
@@alexandercorbett1147true while it did get annoying at times to pull a 180 and make her borderline hide her feelings for sonic is out of character at this point sega should just do a reboot instead of trying to rehash,retcon stuff all day
Pausd at 32:44 Blaze had her arms crossed, looking at Silver, who grabbed a chilli dog. He was more concerned about eating rather than the fact that they all came back! 😂
In the original, looks as Blaze crossed her arms to avoid interact with Silver. What is very sad cause show they are not even close as friends as they were in Sonic 2006. The new version is like: Blaze: Really ? We just got realeased... And you will imediatally eat ? Silver: Yes, I want to taste a Chili dog!😌 Blaze *judges with her cat stare* Silver: Yummy 😋
My overall opinion on it is this: Starting off with the positives, the new dialogue is miles better than the original. Do I miss some of the lines from the original? Yes. Is that entirely because of nostalgia for when Generations first came out? Also yes. The dialogue itself feels a lot better than before. I remember really disliking the fact that Sonic and Tails couldn’t tell the locations like Green Hill or Chemical Plant in the original, so changing their questions from “what is this place” to “why is this location here” was a massive bump in quality for the dialogue. I’m also a fan of just showing that it was classic Eggman in the Death Egg Robot, because that was fooling nobody in the original. Both modern and classic Tails both seemed smarter due to the dialogue change, which I can always appreciate. And Sonic actually talking to his freed friends? Thank goodness, it was so awkward before. My biggest complaint is how the animation just doesn’t line up with the new dialogue. I feel SEGA was trying to be cheap so they put in the minimum amount of change into the cutscenes so they didn’t have to remake them, and yeah, the inaccurate lip-syncing shows. Also, because certain scenes had no dialogue before and do now (after freeing a friend) there exists a lot of awkward dialogue that either feels rushed or needless. My biggest example is after Sonic frees Vector, I feel like Sonic should say something more, or take what Vector says into account, but instead he just goes “Roger that.” Like, bruh? So overall, great dialogue change, I really wish certain scenes were changed along with it and it was lip-synced properly
Now that i think about it... I wonder what have they done for the Japanese versions of dialogues. Have they changed them to fit more in-line with the english rewrite, or did they keep it the same
@@oleevvwhat about classic tails interaction with classic eggman at the end? Like classic eggman says “nobody calls me that anymore!” Which first off… you’d be surprised Second, how does that play out in japan? Because he was always called eggman in japan. In america he was officially called eggman ever since adventure 2. Also wait… if classic eggman takes pride in the name “eggman” here when he’s “classic” eggman, then that means he took the name way before adventure 2.
@@susiehaltmann3342 i dont know dont ask me im also wondering, also when i meant english rewrite i didnt specifically mean this scene i meant all the others
I’m so glad they added stuff for sonic to say when he saves his friends- it’s always been so awkward with him just standing there all silent 😂 it made him seem like he’d just suddenly ran out of ideas and was just like “👍” to every encounter
It's certainly different listening to the new voice actors for the majority of the characters. Including those who are still the same but are far older since 2011. I still can't believe Generations released over a decade ago, it still feels like it were yesterday. The vivid memory I have of first booting up the game on Christmas will never fade.
The grander plot still has some holes that need filling (like where the Time Eater actually came from, because just finding in space feels pretty empty) but this rewrite is still better because at least it tries to give characters like Knuckles and especially Amy their original personalities and such, while making Sonic and Tails sound less stupid in the Green Hill and Chemical Plant cutscenes
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Amy does NOT have her original personality, she got ROBBED
Yeah her dialogue got censored from what it seems. Honestly it wouldn't hurt to have her subtly flirt with Sonic and imply romantic interest. The DLC of Sonic Frontiers is the best example by having Amy ask Sage if she is also a Sonic admirer. No one would mind a subtle approach.
@@zenvariety9383 Censored how? Because this is literally just getting someone who knows what franchise they're working with, fix the script that a bunch of newbies made because they thought they had a banger from a 30 second scroll on Wikipedia
Man, what a glow-up. I remember seeing the original cutscenes, and just being disappointed by the awkwardness of it. I'm glad the new version is bringing some life to this game. Also, I enjoy that Modern Sonic remembers these locations this time, instead of the original, where he was like "hmmm, this seems... familiar."
Ironically these rewrites and voice lines make it way more awkward than the original. The lip sync don't match anymore and some of the lines straight up make no sense anymore.
Ima be honest, I don't like it that he remembers the names of these zones. By this point in the timeline, he's only visited these places once in his entire life. I find it kinda unrealistic that he remembers the name of Green Hill when, at this point, it's only one of several green biomes he has visited on his adventures. Unlike today where he's been to green hill at least 50 thousand times.
@@skrappothemonster1436 I mean, I get that, but all that does is have a couple dozen thousand people shouting "BUT YOU'VE BEEN THERE!" at their screens. Besides, Sonic and some of his pals technically live around Green Hill more or less, or at least that's how it goes these days, I think? Maybe it made more sense back then than what we realized, but nowadays, probably not that much, if anything him not remembering Green Hill of all places would be even more alienating.
"Glow up". This is just some desperate touches to "de-Pontaffize" Generations by adding references and changing the cringe jokes to niceties. But it's still a pathetic nothing burger.
@@Breeze926 Well, if you played Sonic 2 on genesis. You’ll realize that the Death Egg Robot on Generations is supposed have Classic Eggman piloting it. Given it was the based on the final boss on that game.
Yeah, but I was just confused because the camera literally focused on nothing. My first time I thought the cutscene hadn't even played properly lol. I think a silhouette of Eggman would have made it feel less awkward while still keeping the "surprise" in the Time Eater fight.
@@Breeze926 Well, then what did you expect when you only played as Classic Sonic on the 1st boss fight compared to others later on. Still, kind of pretty clever considering Sonic and Tails thought that Eggman is kidnapped when they don’t know which one specifically.
It's funny cause the Japanese dub from OG Gens was copy and pasted into SXS Gens without any modifications. So you get things like the moment during Sonic's birthday party when Sonic is holding Amy back you can hear her JP voice making the appropriate frustrated noises, in SXS she's making the exact same noise even though all she's doing is offering cupcakes 😅
@@IkeyIlex i always just thought of that as his timeline changing after generations since he has new memories and so does eggman. so a new universe was made. at least until superstars was mentioned in to be in sonics past.
It's really weird to hear the voices not having the same energy than 2011,like in eggman's speech before the final boss,the eggmans aren't speaking as fast as then and feels really unfitting with their animation
I've only played the 3DS version. Yet I've heard that people are complaining about some of the censorship in the game though. People have become sensitive to anything that seems remotely woke. Game companies should keep in mind that going woke will lead to less sales always.
Sonic: wow, two Sonic’s?! What is this, some kind of Sonic adventure? How can we tell each other apart?! Tails: I’ve got it, I’ll call you Sonic 1 and the short one Sonic 2 Classic Sonic: Hey, why can’t I be Sonic 1? Dreamcast Sonic: Hey, at least they aren’t calling you Sonic 3, and hey, there’s Knuckles!
@hevnet I have a hypothesis. Theorectically, what if the fact that reason that the reasons why scenes and dialouge in-game was changed because it has something to do with shadow? Not just figuratively but literally speaking?😯 Shadow does take part in generations. In addition, since it has something to do with going back in time, could've been that Shadow going back in time have somehow altered history? That's why the scenes could be different. (Disclaimer: Yes I know the general reasons for the changing of the scenes because of different writers for the game,) yet as an in game theory about it relating back to shadow, what do you think?
For some reason they decided to put a Chili dog on Silver's hand at the end? 31:0332:44 why was this a necessary change? And changed Amy's push on Knuckles? The original was much funnier
To be fair, the push made Knuckles look very dumb and weak, which I think a lot of people were complaining about since Knuckles is one of the strongest characters in terms of raw strength (plus dumb Knuckles seemed to be getting overused or something idk).
I love how they just plopped the hotdog in his hand, they didn’t even try to change the hand positioning. It just looks like the hotdog is permanently fused to his hand😂😂😂 Note to self: don’t time travel while holding an item, or it might fuse to your hand forever 😂😂😂
@SSF124Animates Which is why I think the change was made. I can respect that, yet I think the gag was better. It's a funny thing Amy would do in past games. It would have worked in a better context tho, but since it's a moment that is plopped in the middle of an era for Knuckles which has many other moments that are meant to humiliate him, it came off as insulting for some
@@SSF124Animates It makes more sense though I feel an inbetween would deliver the intended joke best. Like instead of Knuckles getting sent backwards into the tree or having Amy briefly grab his head for some reason, I think having her accidentally backhanding him and bro needing to recover briefly would be funny. It is seemingly established that Amy, while not to the level of Knuckles or like Vector maybe, still has some strength to her.
@@kingbowserchannel1585 Honestly, I'd disagree. It's really the case of it always being a different subgroup every time a reaction is highlighted like that.
@VCofdaG nah. You all can't decide for nothing... every time yall want this, then it's added, and then another group comes in says they don't want this, then some of the group before that one agrees and change their minds. Yeh, you guys don't know what you want, and I see this a lot from Sonic fans too much.
I am SO glad they got Roger a better mic this time. Finally, his voice lines don’t sound muffled and compressed, and instead come out crystal clear. And the fact that he’s gotten better at voicing Sonic over time with amazing voice direction (not to mention the legendary Ian Flynn onboard for this remaster), this is not some corporate poser. This is _THE_ Ogilvie Maurice “Sonic” Hedgehog. Also, I am SO glad I had my mic on for 12:36. I didn’t watch any cutscenes prior to this video, and when I heard that line, I actually screamed like a fangirl.
@@TH-camUserNineEleven Because Sonic, before the games, used to talk. The only reason they couldn't bring a voice to Classic Sonic because Jaleel couldn't get contacted.
In the cutscene with sonic freeing tails in green hill some things are different Sonic gens: tails: not to me 6:10 Sonic x shadow gens: tails: this isn’t South Island 7:00 In sonic x shadow gens tails mouthing looks weird
Frontiers and rewritten Amy are a lot better. Actually has her grow from the adventure games and not regress into a massive simp since heroes going all “notice me senpai”.
Amy being a simp was like the point of the character. It demonstrates Sonic’s freedom. We are killing both her character and Classic representation, which I don’t like.
This is the part where Sonic defeats Shadow and didn’t release that he had a fake chaos emerald and swap it back till classic and modern Sonic getting ready to defeat time eater and 2 Eggman’s!
@@xnortheast1106 True. I only stated that because they didn't change some cutscenes, like Amy still tackling on Sonic but then immediately changed to hold the plates of cupcakes and Sonics didn't swap the fake emerald because of Shadow.
I love how in the final battle cutscene, before, shadow was like “cmon man you got this!” Now he’s just like “get yo ass up” it’s more in character and I love it Sonic generations: 25:59 Shadow generation: 29:57
What can i notice: -Sonic cares more for his friends. - They remember their past adventures, idk why every new adventure it was like they had amnesia. - They changed Amy, 10-20 years ago the obsessed Girl to a boy that ignores her is not working anymore and now Sonic treats her better/Amy soften a little. - All characters have more personality/are less dumb, even they gave Silver a hotdog. - Maybe this is a only me thing, but this new dialogue way even if are only some changes, they remind me to the old games/Unleashed, the Sonic between 2010-2020 for some reason was only saying "cool" lanes and the characters said like basic stuff that was like half cringe/for children, here its like they got back their OG personality. - Again "Sonic cares more for his friends" And most importantly SEGA too, for some reason + what i said with the dialogues between characters, Sonic has REALLY interesting characters and they just ignore them, They giving shadow the spotlight was a big step up, also the rest in less quantity. My opinion, they stopped trying to be Like Mario and finally they went back to what they used to be and from The new Sonic film onwards they got it(Also it shows that they are taking notes again to the Sonic X show, and in my opinion there atleast in terms of personality all of them were in their Prime).
Unpopular opinion: i actually like how they did Amy in Sonic X Shadow Generations. To me it feels like a good medium balance. Not perfect, but alright.
I want to admit, I love that in the new version Amy doesn't sends Knuckles flying away against a tree. Instead, she just smacks him on the head in a more friendly way, Knuckles even smiles after that. I think it's a way of showing how they are some sort of "Though Buddies", I like that dynamic between the two! And also, it doesn't make Knuckles seem like a joke character. I personally liked the rewrite a lot. Keep going Ian!
@@Alexgodofwar5662 it’s the fact that in the original they show classic eggman in the final battle cutscene as a surprise but they just show him like that being taken by the time eater having a model and i know they play it like that he was being taken and needed help but I know he was just playing too plan to team up with his modern self
@@Alexgodofwar5662Was it? Generations was the first time in almost 15 years that we saw classic Eggman. I think many people doubted that they would actually go through with it. Sega was not known for fan service at that time. It was a terrible change.
for the replies Little sonic is literally called classic sonic, same with classic tails Idk why people thought future eggman would fake his capture twice, eggman isn't that stupid So yea it was obvious it was classic eggmam being kidnapped by the time eater Unless people didn't understand the actual reveal which was the time eater not working alone
I love how in the sonic x shadow generations in the ending amy just pushes Knuckles a bit,while in the original sonic generations,amy literally punches him to a tree
Isn’t anyone at least a bit upset about Blaze? Her entire deal in Rush was about her not wanting to rely on others, her arc was about opening up. Why the hell did Ian do all of these unnecessary changes and not change the dialogue that mattered?
You can open up to people and still would rather want to be independent. Her whole ideal was learning to accept others helping her when she needs it more than she believes
@@tailsfan10 Sure, but she says “as much as I dislike relying on others”. This is not about her being independent here, it’s about her disliking to rely on others, which are different. For instance, in Sonic Rush until you fight Sonic, Blaze dislikes relying on others. She opens up a little to Cream, but she becomes her unfriendly self when Sonic shows up. Then Sonic teaches her that relying is good since you can’t do everything alone. But when Cream gets kidnapped, Blaze goes alone because Cream’s now her friend and she owes her. This is her being independent, not disliking to rely on others. Sonic Generations gets rid of the fact that she went through the arc, and Sonic Rush as a whole, which goes against the main theme and thus, the character. That’s bad and shouldn’t be tolerated.
@@MyRoomIsAMess What she experienced in Sonic Rush doesn't necessarily mean she likes to depend on others all of the time. The point is that she's no longer refusing to be assisted or saved. It's the same with Knuckles and they share *a lot* of character principles. At least she's still grateful that Sonic saved her in White Space
@@tailsfan10 Yes, but not liking to depend on others ALL the time and depend on others AT ALL is different. No rational one likes being dependent on everyone, but her deal was that she carried the world on her shoulders and didn’t like ANY HELP. Despite thee fact that being independent is good, you need help from your nearest sometimes too. And she learned to understand that, despite not being dependent on everyone or everything or a freeloader. What she says in Generations implies that she doesn’t like any single bit of help, instead of not liking to be dependent, as you mean. Which undoes her arc.
@@MyRoomIsAMess Maybe we probably just see it differently. All in all, it's not huge deal because Blaze still shows gratitude for Sonic's help in that moment, as much as she said she didn't like relying on others' help
Don't think there's been any talk of replacing Roger, unless you're thinking about the movies or netflix cast, which are different from the games intentionally. He's just been directed differently.
I understand why they want to change amy's personality, but it could have been better to just leave it like it was. The scenes with her don't even make sense, especially when he saves her. Why is he making that face? She only said she would return the favor. They could have made him smile a bit instead, but it looks like they were too lazy for that
Some of the dialogue additions were nice as opposed to the awkward one way convos you get every time you save someone but I don’t like the dialogue changes nor the different voices/voice direction, the lines especially “doubles of us” just don’t hit the same and sonics deep ass frontiers voice is something I’m never gonna get used to
@iananderson4754 7:46 compared to the shadow generations version. Sounds like a bit of an exaggeration now that I’m hearing it but than their might be a different scene and I do not feel like reviewing the entire video to find it. It’s possible I got sonic mixed up with knuckles because his voice sounds horrible
Some of the characters' characterization (hope I said that correctly) have changed since Generations 2011. Example-wise, Amy is no longer so clingy to Sonic.
@heroessquad2019 over time they changed as people, thats not just for the audience, thats happening in universe. She hadn't matured into the person she is in frontiers yet during Generations. This is just removing character development.
You can have a crush without being overly clingy, I believe they _could_ find a good medium if they tried. They seem to rather act like she doesn't like him at all
Wow, the dialogues are more in character and accurate and they actually make sense! I feel like someone in the development team probably watched Chariii5 's everything wrong with sonic generations video and changed some of the parts based on that lol.
2011: "C'mon Sonic, let me just give you a huuuug."
2024: "TAKE THE GODDAMN CUPCAKE!"
And she ate them offscreen. Yeah, the new animation is kinda awkward.
@@HarmonyBunnyYeah, they didn't do a good enough job adapting these cutscenes to the new script
New cutscenes look good tbh
Just remake the entire cutscene, the changed animation with the old one looks awkward
Sonic as EDP: Cupcake?
Did ya say CUPCAKE!?
Knuckles: wheres the rest of my island?
Classic: sorry, i ate it
Why no one comment this 😂
Classic Sonic with a suspiciously Angel Island-shaped torso.
I think Classic said :
Idk why they changed it, it’s kind of stupid . It’s like no one can’t take a joke about gaining weight, i mean i’m not offended by it.
@@Flintonda23 people are sensitive that's why. They thing a bit of playful banter is fat shaming
Man, they REALLY made some big changes to Classic Sonic’s dialogue!
Yeah, and the sounds so weird now
Yea and So Game Changing!
It’s better in every way possible
But they censored Amy scene at the birthday party, I don't believe It, It didn't have anything wrong with that
I personally prefer that amy instead of the simp amy.
2011 sonic: ugh, these people
2024 sonic: these are people that i actually care for
Character development:
Sonic Prime plot:
I like 2011 Sonic more
I really enjoyed that change, Sonic actually practicing what he preaches
3:44 it's kinda
Sad hearing her Colleen growing up
She is 53 years old
Yet she can still giving the same tails vibe
Just...I can feel that age is staring to get to her
No not Ino and Konahamaru.
Honestly I find "older" Tails easier to listen to. The voice direction in the original game was kinda cringy looking back
is she the same voice actor for classic tails aswell? if so honestly it is WAY better he sounded unbelievably high pitched
Are we sure it's Colleen and not Kate yet?
They got Kate back for new lines in SCU but they both sound so similar I genuinely can't tell who's who here.
@@thawkade wiki said its Colleen
12:37 I do enjoy me more CD representation. They finally referenced the Time Stones for the first time time in like 31 years aside from Episode 2.
I often think Ian genuinely cares about the Time Stones way more than Sega ever did. He even made it Silver's way to actually time travel by himself in Archie instead of the current Fast Friends Forever's "the universe just farts a portal in front of Silver when the timeline is in danger with no explanation or logistics behind it whatsoever".
Episode 2?
@@Ollie.H-23 I think they mean Sonic 4 Episode 2.
Also love how both sonics look at each other thinking the exact same thing
@@MaxusFox23wait, how the fuck does silver travel through time anyways?
The rewritten diologue is mostly pretty solid. The untouched animations in most cutscenes and voice direction do look a bit awkward, though.
For example, when Knuckles asked Classic Sonic where the rest of Angel Island was, sonic rubbing his belly makes it look like he ate the island. It's hilarious. 😂
Yeah wait for mod fix 😂
Knuckles: "You WHHHAAAAAAAAAA-"
Yeah that's a pretty cheap mistake on their part. They could have put in more of the work. It's pretty lame
But he DID eat the island and that totally explains why Knuckles doesn't guard the Emerald.😆
Classic Sonic: 🏝=🌭
12:38 “We’re travelling through time? Without the time stones? Wow, it’s like hitting rewind on some sort of Sonic CD!”
The details are PEAK
Absolute Cinema
Good old Ian Flynn writing.
Nerdy fanservice aside it was pretty annoying how slow the characters were to understand and accept time travel in the original version, as if they never dealed with time travel before when there's multiple games of them time traveling, and also the series in general constantly dealing with crazy shit like that.
And all for the sake of having some totally self aware and hilarious
"so let me get this straight...
I'm somewhere that's not what I would call Earth......
I'm seeing FREAKING dragons, and... oh yeah I'm talking to a cuff!"
Forspoken aah dialogue.
Like cmon, we get it's a time travel thing don't dwell on characters processing their situation so long when there's no reason to, we get it's a fantastical situation you don't gotta shove it down the audience's throat.
Also the callbacks help reinforce the idea that they're traveling to the past while in the original version they don't even seem to recognize the past locations.
TIME STONES REFERENCED.... PEAK!! /srs
33:47 Let's hope that line ages well this time.
It does
"IT'S NO USE!"
Knowing this franchise? It won’t 😂
considering its been 13 years and generations is still the last good sonic game to be made by sonic team they really need to step it up
@@conwuzereSonic Frontiers is pretty good especially with all the added content.
These differences feel like me re-reading my essay before submitting it and being like, “wait, I should change that a little to sound better”
0:43
Tails: "He'll be here any second"
Sonic: *literally there the next second*
33:03 I love how you can hear everyone chattering this time instead of silence while watching mouths move until it cuts to the Sonics
The dialogue makes more sense this time. In the original, Sonic didn't even recognize Green Hill. It's like he had amnesia.
Also, Shadow's "On your feet" fits much better than "You got this, Sonic" and Kirk's delivery is way better.
Tbf
Its not like sonic spent that much time on green hill to remember it (or even learn the name)
@@gabigote1439he lives there wtf you mean lmao
@@Ryker.RevixVTsince when? Honestly i always thought the guy just traveled the world constantly
@@kirbythekirb59sonic in future games flat out called green hill his favorite place so him forgetting makes no since.
@@michaeltaylor788 i mean they did release after generations tho? Before that the last time we seen sonic actually being there was back in sa2
I'm so happy they added dialog when you rescue his friends. Its just so awkward that he doesn't say anything just like Classic Sonic. I'm liking the changes over the original, especially the audio quality. Just something about the old recordings seem really off.
true but the voices(mainly eggman and sonic)do not have the same energy as before when they says there lines but that just a small issues tho.
@@calebdemosthene284 i forgot that knuckles got the VA changed and when I saw that It felt less enthusiastic as it was in generations.
@@Cotto_01 Knuckles, Silver, Espio and Blaze are all replaced. Same goes for Tails but Colleen has taken over for him since Sonic Boom.
Its fr just
"Thanks for helping me sonic that was so scary"
".............................."
I don’t like the one where modern Sonic saves Amy it remove the acknowledgment of Amy’s feelings for him and also sonic kind of seems like an asshole now due to his reaction after Amy saying that if sonic new dialogue was combined with Amy’s old dialogue, it actually would’ve been fine
32:44 Nice chili dog, Silver.
Nonono there's a totally rational explanation for it, I swear! He also has secret phasing powers where he phases the food through his hand as a means of checking nutritional value!
Yo it's KimiOmega
lol
Guess Silver didn't eat anything all day, but he did in the end.
I'm glad somebody commented this! It's probably his first Chilli dog! Silver was ready to eat!
28:22 this is the one thing that they haven’t changed his laughter still sounds exactly the same as the old one. I’m not complaining I’m just pointing that out
they should've keeped it anyway
I first felt like they extended the laugh for some weird reason. But yeah no. Its the exact same audio byte
I love the new Classic Eggman Line 🤣
They knew they couldn’t top perfection
Well yeah, that laugh was too perfect to replace (plus, I dunno if Mike would do another take on that laugh specifically)
12:20 love how they changed the line to “older versions of us” Putting it in place classic sonic and tails are younger versions of the modern ones which is cool
Yeah, in the original Classic Sonic and Tails were planed to be versions of another dimensión because in the end of The Game they created.the Manía Universe. But how recently SEGA just destroyed the manía Universe they need to make a change.
Not really. They only said that because it’s a celebration of Sonic. Classic and Modern Sonic were never meant to be the same. Modern Sonic is 15 and Classic Sonic is 16.
When they said older versions they means older versions. Not as in their younger selves. They meant then from the past games. Not them in the literal past.
@@crashban4t.f.s.b783 that’s not how that works? If they said “older versions of us” there’s not really any other way to take it? There white literally pointing out there older versions of themselves age wise 🧍♂️
@@MilsamFroste04 Wait, how'd they destroy the Mania Universe?
Referencing the time stones for the first time in 31 years
Like 100
I legitimately thought they forgot they exist
i dont even know what that is
@@crowina_nutshell The Time Stones are powerful gem stones that debutted in Sonic CD (The same game that introduced Amy and Metal) which can manipulate time
@@igorguimaraes5283 Ohh thanks (I never played CD)
25:59 Shadow: "You've got this ssoniiic"
They changed it to " On your feet" which is better and fit more with Shadow personality
@@OmerizormanHonestly it just makes me think of Keanu in his Cyberpunk 2077 trailer announcement for some reason.
@@Garagelab164 Wake the fuck up Sonic. We've got an eggman to burn.
@@Garagelab164 considering that in Remaster in Deluxe you can get Keanu voice, its fitting
@@splintergectornathan9045
Don't forget that it's the Movie style design
I just realized that sega made Amy less clingy to sonic recently.
Honestly I don’t mind that, I know a lot of Amy Rose fans don’t seemed to like that, but for me unfortunately I don’t really care, cause growing up as a kid I was never a fan of Amy always chasing after Sonic, complaining about him missing their dates when it’s obvious that Sonic isn’t interested in dating, while Amy was written fine in the adventure games, but since then Amy was basically written to be just a simp towards Sonic, so of course Sega and Sonic Team had to make Amy a more mature and likeable character, sure she still has her usual crush on Sonic, but at least she's not as over obsessed to Sonic as she was in the early games, I get that people liked Amy fine the way she was, but sadly not everyone including myself were fans of Amy being an obsessive fan girl, cause not only do some fans find her annoying, but some fans even find her a bit unlikeable, so of course Sega had to change her character for the better.
That bit was getting played out
kinda feels like theyre just trying to hide it under the rug
Specially since it was before amy's clingyness softened
(They also nerfed her heavily)
Probably for the best. The obsessed fangirl/fanboy trope is kinda outdated
@@ssjsal2159no it wasn't it's the aspect of her character anyone the got bored of it ain't a real fan
18:18 OH MY GOOD THE LITTLE WHIMPER
32:44 Silver was definitely excited about trying that chilli dog!
He's eating one in the original tho...
Huh. And they call ME eccentric.
Sonic's reaction to saving people in the old game is legit just 😃👍
I guess the budget on the voice acting wasn't that great back then.
I honestly kinda prefer Amy trying to hug him and he just pushes her back by her face to just her offering him cupcakes
edit: I thought this comment was respectful enough, but damn if the replies haven't blown up
One of the things about Ian Flynn's writing that bugs me is that he tries to make it so that Amy has as little romantic interest in Sonic as possible, which kind of removes the whole point of her being a fangirl with a massive crush on Sonic. And no, I'm not complaining that they made her "woke." I'm fine with her being capable of defending herself and being her own person. That's what her whole campaign in SA1 was about. But a big part of her character that makes her stick out is the fact that she's constantly trying to show some affection for Sonic, even if it gets on his nerves.
@@alexandercorbett1147true while it did get annoying at times to pull a 180 and make her borderline hide her feelings for sonic is out of character at this point sega should just do a reboot instead of trying to rehash,retcon stuff all day
I think Ian Flynn wants to avoid Amy's personality from Sonic Heroes
@HebiTan Amy's personality in Heroes was just as maintainable as SA1
@@alexandercorbett1147 ye hes just changing her whole personality. she is known for being the character to have a crush on sonic. also its funny
so happy they gave silver a chili dog in the new ending
The fact it's not even properly put to look like it, from someones comment, you can see that his fingers clip into it lol
@@StarrySteveStampsOwO oui il a le poing fermé 😆💀
@@StarrySteveStampsOwO He just didn't want to drop it.
I like how they are all cheering and his first action was to grab a chili dog before celebrating
32:45 THEY NERFED AMY!! 😂😂😂
Nah, they just buffed Knuckles
It’s both
@@UziGR6642 it was more funny in sonic generations
It's more mature and stays true to their character. I always found the old one pisses me off because the characters look like a joke.
@@fairiesflame1345 help what? it’s supposed to be funny and no, it showed how strong Amy is. Amy is still a child anyway.
I like how saving the character sonic talks not just doing like some random pose
12:38 I almost had a heart attack when I heard this
Time stones are from sonic cd, right?
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!
dude it caught me so off guard when i played it i was like “the hell did he just say???”
@firemarioinfriendswealthyb8380 Ikr, Me Too dude, I Fucking love CD, Glad they Acknowledged it!!!
@@saberj10Same here 😂😂😂!!!
Pausd at 32:44 Blaze had her arms crossed, looking at Silver, who grabbed a chilli dog. He was more concerned about eating rather than the fact that they all came back! 😂
interesting, the chili dog just teleports into his hand
@FoxtrotGolfLima it was his fate for his famous line, "it's no use!". Silver got good karma here.
In the original, looks as Blaze crossed her arms to avoid interact with Silver. What is very sad cause show they are not even close as friends as they were in Sonic 2006.
The new version is like:
Blaze: Really ? We just got realeased... And you will imediatally eat ?
Silver: Yes, I want to taste a Chili dog!😌
Blaze *judges with her cat stare*
Silver: Yummy 😋
@andre_f_607 that's sad!
My overall opinion on it is this:
Starting off with the positives, the new dialogue is miles better than the original. Do I miss some of the lines from the original? Yes. Is that entirely because of nostalgia for when Generations first came out? Also yes. The dialogue itself feels a lot better than before. I remember really disliking the fact that Sonic and Tails couldn’t tell the locations like Green Hill or Chemical Plant in the original, so changing their questions from “what is this place” to “why is this location here” was a massive bump in quality for the dialogue. I’m also a fan of just showing that it was classic Eggman in the Death Egg Robot, because that was fooling nobody in the original. Both modern and classic Tails both seemed smarter due to the dialogue change, which I can always appreciate. And Sonic actually talking to his freed friends? Thank goodness, it was so awkward before.
My biggest complaint is how the animation just doesn’t line up with the new dialogue. I feel SEGA was trying to be cheap so they put in the minimum amount of change into the cutscenes so they didn’t have to remake them, and yeah, the inaccurate lip-syncing shows. Also, because certain scenes had no dialogue before and do now (after freeing a friend) there exists a lot of awkward dialogue that either feels rushed or needless. My biggest example is after Sonic frees Vector, I feel like Sonic should say something more, or take what Vector says into account, but instead he just goes “Roger that.” Like, bruh?
So overall, great dialogue change, I really wish certain scenes were changed along with it and it was lip-synced properly
It all probably went to shadow's stuff
Agreed, love the changes but sega needs to start giving this franchise the attention to detail it deserves
Now that i think about it... I wonder what have they done for the Japanese versions of dialogues. Have they changed them to fit more in-line with the english rewrite, or did they keep it the same
@@oleevvwhat about classic tails interaction with classic eggman at the end? Like classic eggman says “nobody calls me that anymore!”
Which first off… you’d be surprised
Second, how does that play out in japan? Because he was always called eggman in japan. In america he was officially called eggman ever since adventure 2. Also wait… if classic eggman takes pride in the name “eggman” here when he’s “classic” eggman, then that means he took the name way before adventure 2.
@@susiehaltmann3342 i dont know dont ask me im also wondering, also when i meant english rewrite i didnt specifically mean this scene i meant all the others
I’m so glad they added stuff for sonic to say when he saves his friends- it’s always been so awkward with him just standing there all silent 😂 it made him seem like he’d just suddenly ran out of ideas and was just like “👍” to every encounter
28:22 thank god they never changed the laugh
Du u watsh da muvee no twee?
It would have hurt Mike to try
It's certainly different listening to the new voice actors for the majority of the characters. Including those who are still the same but are far older since 2011. I still can't believe Generations released over a decade ago, it still feels like it were yesterday.
The vivid memory I have of first booting up the game on Christmas will never fade.
Fr time is passing so fast...
Also, gotta love 12:38: "Without the Time Stones?"
Time eater:
"I used the stones to destroy the stones"
I think this is the best rewritten line Sega made to Generation.
@@DarkOperationmanJust a cheap reference to past games just to sound hip.
@@ataladin87okay, nostalgia critic.
@@thedoodlianfella you're welcome casual.
The grander plot still has some holes that need filling (like where the Time Eater actually came from, because just finding in space feels pretty empty) but this rewrite is still better because at least it tries to give characters like Knuckles and especially Amy their original personalities and such, while making Sonic and Tails sound less stupid in the Green Hill and Chemical Plant cutscenes
Amy does NOT have her original personality, she got ROBBED
Yeah her dialogue got censored from what it seems. Honestly it wouldn't hurt to have her subtly flirt with Sonic and imply romantic interest.
The DLC of Sonic Frontiers is the best example by having Amy ask Sage if she is also a Sonic admirer. No one would mind a subtle approach.
Robbed of the shit hole that Pontac and Graff left her in, I agree, and it's for the better
@@zenvariety9383 Censored how? Because this is literally just getting someone who knows what franchise they're working with, fix the script that a bunch of newbies made because they thought they had a banger from a 30 second scroll on Wikipedia
Man, what a glow-up. I remember seeing the original cutscenes, and just being disappointed by the awkwardness of it. I'm glad the new version is bringing some life to this game. Also, I enjoy that Modern Sonic remembers these locations this time, instead of the original, where he was like "hmmm, this seems... familiar."
"Mmmm, look at those green hills, where have I seen those before? Hmmm....
...nope, doesn't ring a bell."
Ironically these rewrites and voice lines make it way more awkward than the original. The lip sync don't match anymore and some of the lines straight up make no sense anymore.
Ima be honest, I don't like it that he remembers the names of these zones. By this point in the timeline, he's only visited these places once in his entire life. I find it kinda unrealistic that he remembers the name of Green Hill when, at this point, it's only one of several green biomes he has visited on his adventures. Unlike today where he's been to green hill at least 50 thousand times.
@@skrappothemonster1436 I mean, I get that, but all that does is have a couple dozen thousand people shouting "BUT YOU'VE BEEN THERE!" at their screens.
Besides, Sonic and some of his pals technically live around Green Hill more or less, or at least that's how it goes these days, I think? Maybe it made more sense back then than what we realized, but nowadays, probably not that much, if anything him not remembering Green Hill of all places would be even more alienating.
"Glow up".
This is just some desperate touches to "de-Pontaffize" Generations by adding references and changing the cringe jokes to niceties. But it's still a pathetic nothing burger.
31:12 / 32:52 we are NEVER getting that Rings answer :skull:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
10:36 hey look, they actually shows classic robotnik full appearance.
😂 so hilarious
The original cutscene confused me so much as a kid in 2011. I didnt realize it was supposed to be classic eggman.
@@Breeze926 Well, if you played Sonic 2 on genesis. You’ll realize that the Death Egg Robot on Generations is supposed have Classic Eggman piloting it. Given it was the based on the final boss on that game.
Yeah, but I was just confused because the camera literally focused on nothing. My first time I thought the cutscene hadn't even played properly lol.
I think a silhouette of Eggman would have made it feel less awkward while still keeping the "surprise" in the Time Eater fight.
@@Breeze926 Well, then what did you expect when you only played as Classic Sonic on the 1st boss fight compared to others later on.
Still, kind of pretty clever considering Sonic and Tails thought that Eggman is kidnapped when they don’t know which one specifically.
It's funny cause the Japanese dub from OG Gens was copy and pasted into SXS Gens without any modifications. So you get things like the moment during Sonic's birthday party when Sonic is holding Amy back you can hear her JP voice making the appropriate frustrated noises, in SXS she's making the exact same noise even though all she's doing is offering cupcakes 😅
Thats why better consider Jp original
@@ediakin4993eggman is different in jp new version
26:31 that voice clip where he says "Super Sonic Style!" would later be reused for his final smash in ultimate.
Knuckles's new voice sounds like he just woke up.
Alt way to say it: Knuckles's new voice sounds like he's got a permanent morning voice.
6:19 reference to sonic colour and sonic and the secret ring.
But no mention of Sonic and the Black Knight😢
It was in the original as well
Coincidentally, Sonic Generations is a sequel to Sonic Colors.
This confirms and 100% canon that Classic Is the younger version of Modern.
I mean... duh.
No shit
@@IkeyIlex i always just thought of that as his timeline changing after generations since he has new memories and so does eggman. so a new universe was made. at least until superstars was mentioned in to be in sonics past.
I mean, it always was but at the same time a new timeline was created when he returned
@@IkeyIlexthats not how retcon works
Thats just basic time travel
It's really weird to hear the voices not having the same energy than 2011,like in eggman's speech before the final boss,the eggmans aren't speaking as fast as then and feels really unfitting with their animation
Mike polik is getting older too Soo perhaps that affected his voice a little bit because remember this game came out 13 years ago!
Likewise for the faster ones. Too fast, and it leaves awkward pauses between lines.
I guess the original cast were just getting tired of reusing most of the same lines all over again.
@@JakeThehedgehog-m1xAgreed. I could be wrong, but maybe this is a sign of him considering his retirement from his acting career.
I've only played the 3DS version. Yet I've heard that people are complaining about some of the censorship in the game though. People have become sensitive to anything that seems remotely woke. Game companies should keep in mind that going woke will lead to less sales always.
Sonic: wow, two Sonic’s?! What is this, some kind of Sonic adventure? How can we tell each other apart?!
Tails: I’ve got it, I’ll call you Sonic 1 and the short one Sonic 2
Classic Sonic: Hey, why can’t I be Sonic 1?
Dreamcast Sonic: Hey, at least they aren’t calling you Sonic 3, and hey, there’s Knuckles!
absolute cinema
Getting some Spiderman: No Way Home vibes over here. 😁
🔥✍️
8:46 THEY CHANGED IT?! AWH MAN-
The og line was funny :c
U know what's funnier? Sonic's response actually goes better with the og Amy line.
@Chisette_FG they scammed me...
@@SnazzyMela989 don't worry, nothing like some future mods can fix this mess. I really dislike Amy's changes.
well like Flynn once said, he can satisfy people but not everyone
@@minetfq739this....
3:39 - Amy looks creepy. Like regular AI video
Like they didn't know what they should make her do
Fr
Should have just left it as it is
You do realise it's against social media rules to copy/paste AI-generated expertise text.
nah
20:27 Who's Roger?
Sonic: He’s talking about me
He's talking to me
**transparent image of Sonic Boom's credits emphasizing Sonic being voiced by Roger C. Smith**
Sonic Boom cartoon reference 😂
@@GalaxyRoyalno duh
I miss Amy smacking Knuckles when she says "Not half bad? He was great?" so hard he flies into a tree.
one thing i don't like about the rewrites/reanimations is that amy doesn't demolish knuckles by whacking him into the tree
Yeah
Same
that was during an era where knuckles was seen as a joke, the new one better reflects him nowadays
@hevnet I have a hypothesis. Theorectically, what if the fact that reason that the reasons why scenes and dialouge in-game was changed because it has something to do with shadow? Not just figuratively but literally speaking?😯 Shadow does take part in generations. In addition, since it has something to do with going back in time, could've been that Shadow going back in time have somehow altered history? That's why the scenes could be different.
(Disclaimer: Yes I know the general reasons for the changing of the scenes because of different writers for the game,) yet as an in game theory about it relating back to shadow, what do you think?
Ik, Knuckles being whacked into the tree was hilarious!
For some reason they decided to put a Chili dog on Silver's hand at the end? 31:03 32:44 why was this a necessary change?
And changed Amy's push on Knuckles? The original was much funnier
To be fair, the push made Knuckles look very dumb and weak, which I think a lot of people were complaining about since Knuckles is one of the strongest characters in terms of raw strength (plus dumb Knuckles seemed to be getting overused or something idk).
I love how they just plopped the hotdog in his hand, they didn’t even try to change the hand positioning. It just looks like the hotdog is permanently fused to his hand😂😂😂
Note to self: don’t time travel while holding an item, or it might fuse to your hand forever 😂😂😂
@SSF124Animates Which is why I think the change was made. I can respect that, yet I think the gag was better. It's a funny thing Amy would do in past games. It would have worked in a better context tho, but since it's a moment that is plopped in the middle of an era for Knuckles which has many other moments that are meant to humiliate him, it came off as insulting for some
@@twintails8221 you can even see his fingers clipping through it
@@SSF124Animates It makes more sense though I feel an inbetween would deliver the intended joke best. Like instead of Knuckles getting sent backwards into the tree or having Amy briefly grab his head for some reason, I think having her accidentally backhanding him and bro needing to recover briefly would be funny. It is seemingly established that Amy, while not to the level of Knuckles or like Vector maybe, still has some strength to her.
I like that in remaster they actually remember the old zones. But I will never forgive what they did to the birthday party cutscene...
Fans: "We can't stand Amy not clinging Sonic much!"
Sega: "Then why did you ask for it?!"
I didn't ask for it
People often forget the Sonic fandom is anything but unified lol
@VCofdaG they're also anything, but decisive too. Lol
@@kingbowserchannel1585 Honestly, I'd disagree. It's really the case of it always being a different subgroup every time a reaction is highlighted like that.
@VCofdaG nah. You all can't decide for nothing... every time yall want this, then it's added, and then another group comes in says they don't want this, then some of the group before that one agrees and change their minds. Yeh, you guys don't know what you want, and I see this a lot from Sonic fans too much.
Holy crap! For someone who has been playing generations for a while, the new lines sound so good! And does Tails have a deeper voice?
The voice actress aged a bit 😅
@@NickNooblesit's because those two aren't the same actresses.
@@Wesmoen are you sure? I was certain it was the same one
@@NickNoobles Colleen O'Shaughnessy replaced Kate Higgins after Generations.
But O'Shaughnessy has been voicing Tails for a decade now.
I am SO glad they got Roger a better mic this time. Finally, his voice lines don’t sound muffled and compressed, and instead come out crystal clear. And the fact that he’s gotten better at voicing Sonic over time with amazing voice direction (not to mention the legendary Ian Flynn onboard for this remaster), this is not some corporate poser. This is _THE_ Ogilvie Maurice “Sonic” Hedgehog.
Also, I am SO glad I had my mic on for 12:36. I didn’t watch any cutscenes prior to this video, and when I heard that line, I actually screamed like a fangirl.
now that I think about it, they rewrote every peice of dialogue but STILL didn't let classic sonic talk
Still no Jaleel White, sadly. We couldn't get a legend before and we STILL couldn't get a legend now.
Classic Sonic never talked in his games so why would they make him talk?
@@TH-camUserNineEleven Because Sonic, before the games, used to talk.
The only reason they couldn't bring a voice to Classic Sonic because Jaleel couldn't get contacted.
@@TH-camUserNineElevenHe talked in 3D Blast and in manuals. Even the little critters talked in those manuals
@@TH-camUserNineEleven To be fair, Classic Tails never talked in those games either, yet he's talking in this game too
In the cutscene with sonic freeing tails in green hill some things are different
Sonic gens: tails: not to me 6:10
Sonic x shadow gens: tails: this isn’t South Island 7:00
In sonic x shadow gens tails mouthing looks weird
they were lazy to change to lip sync
Mouthing?
@@IbiPlayz2702they did lip synch it
The change of dialogue is so weird, I'm used to that tone
@@SpeedyAnimatoronly in SG.
4:39 Silver who came from behind the tree: What did I miss???
The Time Eater sucks him too
I don’t see him.
@@adriandiaz9756 I think it's meant to be some joke
How did silver end up in the white space???
@@Izhen_UwU We need Silver’s story for the DLC.
@@Izhen_UwUwell he is a time traveler, maybe he got lost.
12:35 Sonic CD reference, Amazing.
I didn't realize how much they changed the cutscenes, but it's cool that Modern Sonic talks to his friends when you save them.
I like the old dialogue before Time Eater better. "You and what mustache?" :D
Frontiers and rewritten Amy are a lot better. Actually has her grow from the adventure games and not regress into a massive simp since heroes going all “notice me senpai”.
You reminded me of Sonic the Derphog on that last sentence lol.
Well technically she has that love to Sonic but pretty much toned down and I think it's for the best.
Yeah I agree, rewritten Amy is a lot better
Amy being a simp was like the point of the character. It demonstrates Sonic’s freedom. We are killing both her character and Classic representation, which I don’t like.
@@MyRoomIsAMessHer being a fangirl of Sonic isn't just her full character?? 💀 God damn a woman be more than just a simp.
7:53 “this chemical plant feels familiar..”
“say that again”
This is the part where Sonic defeats Shadow and didn’t release that he had a fake chaos emerald and swap it back till classic and modern Sonic getting ready to defeat time eater and 2 Eggman’s!
Rouge should be faster than both hedgehogs (Sonic and Shadow) to make that swap.
@@Fredcat11she shouldn't be
@@Fredcat11 yeah that was strange dicision
@@xnortheast1106 True. I only stated that because they didn't change some cutscenes, like Amy still tackling on Sonic but then immediately changed to hold the plates of cupcakes and Sonics didn't swap the fake emerald because of Shadow.
12:34 “without the time stones?” Was HILARIOUS!
I love how in the final battle cutscene, before, shadow was like “cmon man you got this!” Now he’s just like “get yo ass up” it’s more in character and I love it
Sonic generations: 25:59
Shadow generation: 29:57
Knuckles: "Where is the rest of my island?"
Classic Sonic: "My bad bro, I ate it"
What can i notice:
-Sonic cares more for his friends.
- They remember their past adventures, idk why every new adventure it was like they had amnesia.
- They changed Amy, 10-20 years ago the obsessed Girl to a boy that ignores her is not working anymore and now Sonic treats her better/Amy soften a little.
- All characters have more personality/are less dumb, even they gave Silver a hotdog.
- Maybe this is a only me thing, but this new dialogue way even if are only some changes, they remind me to the old games/Unleashed, the Sonic between 2010-2020 for some reason was only saying "cool" lanes and the characters said like basic stuff that was like half cringe/for children, here its like they got back their OG personality.
- Again "Sonic cares more for his friends" And most importantly SEGA too, for some reason + what i said with the dialogues between characters, Sonic has REALLY interesting characters and they just ignore them, They giving shadow the spotlight was a big step up, also the rest in less quantity.
My opinion, they stopped trying to be Like Mario and finally they went back to what they used to be and from The new Sonic film onwards they got it(Also it shows that they are taking notes again to the Sonic X show, and in my opinion there atleast in terms of personality all of them were in their Prime).
32:24 THEY DELETED AMY HITTING KNUCLLES VERY HARD BY THE TREE NOOO! THAT WAS MOST FUNNIEST THING ON A CUTSCENE 😭
They didn't want amy canonically stronger then nipples the enchilada
@@PlasmaGamer96 or maybe it felt too cartoony for the vibe now?
Awwww
Not the line abt where sonic hides the rings :'u
Unpopular opinion: i actually like how they did Amy in Sonic X Shadow Generations. To me it feels like a good medium balance. Not perfect, but alright.
I feel like the perfect medium and best amy is in the free game the murder of sonic the hedgehog
@@Leonkennedy19992I would genuinely pay for more games in that style
not upopular many other else like it too
@@JakeThehedgehog-m1x Tourists love it
I love the new Amy changes
13:35 sonic said: 😁👍🏻
sonic cd's time stones
I called it too
1:06 I see why people didn’t now like that when sonic put his hand on Amy face
3:40 this is cutest one they like 👍
Classic Tails is adorable
3:39
Amy is crazy and can't stop smiling at the candy XD
La Amy esta loca no para de sonreir con los dulces XD
She wanted to give her *cake* to Sonic
@@DeibdleeSilva😭
@@DeibdleeSilva 😂
@@DeibdleeSilvaOh hell nah bro! 😆
14:15 why did the rouge voice was changed? I liked the old one much more.
I want to admit, I love that in the new version Amy doesn't sends Knuckles flying away against a tree. Instead, she just smacks him on the head in a more friendly way, Knuckles even smiles after that. I think it's a way of showing how they are some sort of "Though Buddies", I like that dynamic between the two! And also, it doesn't make Knuckles seem like a joke character. I personally liked the rewrite a lot. Keep going Ian!
Yeah, cool and all but before I thought Amy had super strength xD
@@user-qb3gm4pu2m Actually, she's really strong! No one said she wasn't. Never underestimate a pink hedgehog that can swing a giant hammer with ease.
@@unweoncualquierant Amy is the pink hedgehog version of Thor, lol. 😂🥰
I'm glad they kept my favorite Sonic quote in Sonic X Shadow Generations. " An adventure's no fun if it's too easy!"
It's originally from secret rings!
@Mijuwott Really? Sweet! Thanks for telling me bro!
Mine is: Then I guess we have to run like there's no tomorrow, or there won't be a tomorrow!
I just realized sega had a missed opportunity to recontact jaleel white
31:01 UM... WHY IS SHADOW IN THE BACK!
There was no shadow story in the og
10:38 looks like they ruined the surprise
What surprise?
It was obvious in the original that we were fighting classic eggman💀
@Alexgodofwar5662 it's not like they do a whole reveal thing at the final boss or anything 💀
@@Alexgodofwar5662 it’s the fact that in the original they show classic eggman in the final battle cutscene as a surprise but they just show him like that being taken by the time eater having a model and i know they play it like that he was being taken and needed help but I know he was just playing too plan to team up with his modern self
@@Alexgodofwar5662Was it? Generations was the first time in almost 15 years that we saw classic Eggman. I think many people doubted that they would actually go through with it. Sega was not known for fan service at that time. It was a terrible change.
for the replies
Little sonic is literally called classic sonic, same with classic tails
Idk why people thought future eggman would fake his capture twice, eggman isn't that stupid
So yea it was obvious it was classic eggmam being kidnapped by the time eater
Unless people didn't understand the actual reveal which was the time eater not working alone
I personalöy like that sega is making amy less of a deranged stalker and more of a caring sister figure
2011: Help us, Sonic!
2024: Help us, whenever you can, don't rush it, okay, bye!
1:06 -> 3:40 Big Changes! Big Edits!
Fu*king don't care have to you
@@starnfbmgo15 Chill down bro
@@aracelymancina6436 Cant way I m angry
I think Amy looks even more insane in the new one. That face expression...
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23:15 27:13 Nobody calls me that anymore.
Bro this intro is fire, whoever made this great job :D
I love how in the sonic x shadow generations in the ending amy just pushes Knuckles a bit,while in the original sonic generations,amy literally punches him to a tree
Isn’t anyone at least a bit upset about Blaze? Her entire deal in Rush was about her not wanting to rely on others, her arc was about opening up.
Why the hell did Ian do all of these unnecessary changes and not change the dialogue that mattered?
You can open up to people and still would rather want to be independent. Her whole ideal was learning to accept others helping her when she needs it more than she believes
@@tailsfan10 Sure, but she says “as much as I dislike relying on others”. This is not about her being independent here, it’s about her disliking to rely on others, which are different.
For instance, in Sonic Rush until you fight Sonic, Blaze dislikes relying on others. She opens up a little to Cream, but she becomes her unfriendly self when Sonic shows up. Then Sonic teaches her that relying is good since you can’t do everything alone. But when Cream gets kidnapped, Blaze goes alone because Cream’s now her friend and she owes her. This is her being independent, not disliking to rely on others.
Sonic Generations gets rid of the fact that she went through the arc, and Sonic Rush as a whole, which goes against the main theme and thus, the character. That’s bad and shouldn’t be tolerated.
@@MyRoomIsAMess What she experienced in Sonic Rush doesn't necessarily mean she likes to depend on others all of the time. The point is that she's no longer refusing to be assisted or saved. It's the same with Knuckles and they share *a lot* of character principles. At least she's still grateful that Sonic saved her in White Space
@@tailsfan10 Yes, but not liking to depend on others ALL the time and depend on others AT ALL is different. No rational one likes being dependent on everyone, but her deal was that she carried the world on her shoulders and didn’t like ANY HELP. Despite thee fact that being independent is good, you need help from your nearest sometimes too. And she learned to understand that, despite not being dependent on everyone or everything or a freeloader. What she says in Generations implies that she doesn’t like any single bit of help, instead of not liking to be dependent, as you mean. Which undoes her arc.
@@MyRoomIsAMess Maybe we probably just see it differently. All in all, it's not huge deal because Blaze still shows gratitude for Sonic's help in that moment, as much as she said she didn't like relying on others' help
3:22 Honestly, surprised they didn't redub Sonic. Now that rodger is voicing him anymore
They did, If you listen closely Roger re-recorded his lines, some of them at least
bro is living in early 2021
Don't think there's been any talk of replacing Roger, unless you're thinking about the movies or netflix cast, which are different from the games intentionally.
He's just been directed differently.
@JC7146 i misread that guys comment lmao I thought he meant Roger didn't do his lines over, not that "he retired"
Roger's "retirement" only lasted 4 months. He's still voicing Sonic.
I understand why they want to change amy's personality, but it could have been better to just leave it like it was. The scenes with her don't even make sense, especially when he saves her. Why is he making that face? She only said she would return the favor. They could have made him smile a bit instead, but it looks like they were too lazy for that
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0:00 I haven't watched this channel for too long and this intro brought back a lot of memories
Some of the dialogue additions were nice as opposed to the awkward one way convos you get every time you save someone but I don’t like the dialogue changes nor the different voices/voice direction, the lines especially “doubles of us” just don’t hit the same and sonics deep ass frontiers voice is something I’m never gonna get used to
I didnt hear the deep voice. any timestamp?
@iananderson4754 7:46 compared to the shadow generations version. Sounds like a bit of an exaggeration now that I’m hearing it but than their might be a different scene and I do not feel like reviewing the entire video to find it. It’s possible I got sonic mixed up with knuckles because his voice sounds horrible
@@iananderson4754 Found it it was when Sonic said “another me?” in the mirror cutscene.
3:40 the question is why did they change this scene ?
Some of the characters' characterization (hope I said that correctly) have changed since Generations 2011. Example-wise, Amy is no longer so clingy to Sonic.
Because fans
Maybe because it was stupid and out of character for Sonic? Now it's much better.
@@Thaumiel98 It was kinda funny IMO, but I'm as glad as the next guy that they changed it
@heroessquad2019 over time they changed as people, thats not just for the audience, thats happening in universe. She hadn't matured into the person she is in frontiers yet during Generations. This is just removing character development.
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with Amy being not clingy to Sonic. The change is perfectly in character
You can have a crush without being overly clingy, I believe they _could_ find a good medium if they tried.
They seem to rather act like she doesn't like him at all
Wow, the dialogues are more in character and accurate and they actually make sense!
I feel like someone in the development team probably watched Chariii5 's everything wrong with sonic generations video and changed some of the parts based on that lol.
I’m gonna get this for nostalgia, had so much fun with this game as a kid.
I'm not. Hated this Boost to win nostalgia trash heap when I was in high school, still do.
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@@TheDen-ec9xe I have spotted an ancient being.
@@ozmintheobserver Technically that would be OP since he's fishing for likes using the word "nostalgia"
@@TheSackersLounge 🤓
Love how the remake is making Knuckles less of a joke character
12:38 The fact that Sonic remembers the time stones 😂
but its 2011 it is an error on lore?
oh it was time stones from sonic cd right
@@lapapahacker5402 yep
@@lapapahacker5402Lore,Sonic CD is canon
It's the anniversary game, they can do what they want