The Pauline Paradox - Part 5: Galatians - 119 Ministries

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  • @OwlPsalm
    @OwlPsalm ปีที่แล้ว +13

    once the veil is lifted, the entire bible makes so much more sense.

    • @Adam-qz3wh
      @Adam-qz3wh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This guy is painting the veil so it's more solid. Lots of truth sure, he's quoting Torah and explaining well.
      But to reconcile Paul with it? Blasphemy. But Duet. 13 warned, "if that prophets words come true, know the Lord your God is testing you." And "will perform miracles to deceive even the elect"
      We're under a curse because we broke God's law? Ok then, stop breaking that law, and now we have freedom. We still have consequences and repercussions, "turn the other Cheek"... The law is freedom. The law brings freedom to the blind. Paul was a Roman spy sent to destroy a strong people with strong culture/core beliefs that were a threat to the Roman occupation for centuries.

  • @seekingGODs-YHWHsTruth144K
    @seekingGODs-YHWHsTruth144K 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The law is instructions in righteousness, literally it shows us how to do the right thing in many situations, I think a better understanding or explanation is justification could never come from the law the law in fact is instructions in righteousness but not justification, that only comes through Messiah 🙏💯❤️📖

    • @jaycee1426
      @jaycee1426 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😢i agree with your thoughts

  • @loricalass4068
    @loricalass4068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This series is one of the very best on TH-cam.

  • @linak7155
    @linak7155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wish I had the gift of expression as this brother has . in essence he has broken down these difficult passages, concisely. Thank you! ❤️

  • @elizabethpostawa
    @elizabethpostawa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really appreciate how you guys teach… Breaking it down is so very helpful.

  • @susanosullivan4528
    @susanosullivan4528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Precise and perfectly explained thank you so much blessings to you and your ministry 🙏

  • @Benmelech
    @Benmelech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Teachings as this is why I have supported Jon in his ministry for over 20 years. Ever since his Ministry was birthed in a garage so to speak lol

  • @ThePromisePerspective
    @ThePromisePerspective ปีที่แล้ว

    This teaching was such a blessing!!! Thank you for your obedience. I thoroughly enjoyed listening, reading and testing this as I followed along in Scripture, and I ended this study with a much deeper understanding than when I began. Shalom and thank you so much!!

  • @mrjlarsen
    @mrjlarsen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great teaching and insight 👍

  • @MinisterRedPill
    @MinisterRedPill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A very difficult book to understand. Thanks for the video

  • @DudeUSA
    @DudeUSA ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “The Law was added…” does not mean that it was a new thing. It was not. The Law was taught orally since the time of Adam. At Sinai The Law was added in written form for the first time. Written language was a new thing at that time. The 400 years of captivity in Egypt introduced the people of God to written language, especially Moses, who was raised in the household of Pharaoh. .

  • @general8109
    @general8109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am enjoying this presentation very much

  • @ncsojourner200
    @ncsojourner200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unless ones teaching edifies the finished works of Jesus on his cross & resurrection & ascension...
    Freeing the Holy Spirit to enter each person if they believe & repent & seek him...this is all works of the flesh, the devil, or both....
    Anything added to the cross of Christ, nullifies the cross...
    Salvation & abiding in Jesus is the key...
    Not works,
    Not law,
    Not traditions of men
    Ps 1
    Ps 96,97,98
    Isiah 1..." come let us reason "
    John 3,15-21 *

    • @thegodiknowministries
      @thegodiknowministries 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think everyone would agree. No one has ever been able to get to Heaven without first loving God. It's about relationship. How we live shows that we are not only His, but that we live our life the way He instructed us to.

  • @salvationapologetics7386
    @salvationapologetics7386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much

  • @amkr186
    @amkr186 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much!

  • @johnclarke3704
    @johnclarke3704 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was looking forward to this one. Do you guys believe in the “penal substitution” doctrine? I felt as though some things were worded that supported it.

  • @Bobbychildree
    @Bobbychildree ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The original was Hebrew. Translating into Greek was done by Gentiles, not by Hebrew speaking Jews. They chose words that made sense to them when a Hebrew word had multiple possible translations - fair enough. But the Hebrew word they translated as “under” can also be translated as “of.” So Paul can also be understood as saying “Sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not OF the law but OF grace.” To be under something is to be ruled by it. To be of something is to be identified with it. It is a choice of words, both possible as translations, but in a different language the proper nuance may be lost in translation. In Spanish, “Echar flores “ means to pay a compliment. In English, however, it means to throw flowers. Something is lost in translation. And sometimes the Hebrew to Greek to Old English to English makes Paul say things that are hard to understand.

  • @ChristopherColegrove1983
    @ChristopherColegrove1983 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a DVD for this series (Pauline Paradox) and the Acts 15 series? Very interested in physical DVD.

  • @jeremiahmcquiston7401
    @jeremiahmcquiston7401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am curious if the law was "added" was it not always in existence from the beginning? I always thought the Torah was from the beginning, and then written down with Moses.

    • @trustandobey5656
      @trustandobey5656 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
      YESHA'YAHU (ISAIAH) 46:10 את CEPHER

    • @HAChrist
      @HAChrist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The reference to the law that was being 'added' is not in reference to The Torah, since even Abraham was given His Torah as part of the covenant per Gen.26:5; therefore, you are correct.

    • @jeremiahmcquiston7401
      @jeremiahmcquiston7401 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HAChrist since we know "the law" is a Greek translation of Torah when referring to God's word from the septuagen. They are not taking about a different law such as the law of the land. What law then would it be referring to?

    • @HAChrist
      @HAChrist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jeremiahmcquiston7401 Nomos or nomon in Greek for 'law' also means 'customs' in Strong's. Sadly, since Elohim has sent a strong delusion upon the earth, people are without understanding, since there's no such thing as the 'law of sin'. If there was a law of sin, then we would find this law and definition in Exodus, Numbers, or Deuteronomy. Therefore, there is no such thing as the law of sin but the 'agency of sin'. In conclusion, nomos or nomon can also mean 'agency', 'customs', 'oral-law', 'statutes', etc.

    • @jeremiahmcquiston7401
      @jeremiahmcquiston7401 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HAChrist but the Septuagen also translate the word Torah into law "Normos". So it is up to context to know if it's the law of God, aka Torah or the law of men, or the law of customs of the scribes.
      If this passage speaks of "the law" being added presumably by God I would think this is referring to the Torah. Because there is not need to add another law because that would violate Torah.

  • @aliymtate3699
    @aliymtate3699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is your explanation, your interpretation of Paul's letters this is what you belive Paul was saying or trying to say . The problem with this is paul already has the law , knew the law , he knew that just keeping the law doesn't get you saved but but keeping the laws of God and the the belief in his son and having faith in God and in Jesus completes the law , and it shouldn't matter that the people in Galatia wanted to start observing the law or in what order they choose to do it in , as long as they , as new comers to the judean way of life , know that the law is written and already established and must be kept .. people always have to explain Paul's letters , its always a caveat to his teachings why if he was truly called by Jesus , are not the disciples aware of him becoming a disciple as a matter of fact Jesus warned his true disciples about Paul in the book of Matthew 24 v 23 . And in the book of Acts 9 v 25-26 they don't accept him nor believe he is an apostle . JESUS gave his disciples commandements to go out and preach the word of God to the world 1 john 17 v 18 why was there a need for pauls writings when Jesus already came and preached the commandments of God , to have faith in God and to believe he was the son the world was waiting for . many of you skip pass these very obvious parts in the new testament .
    I have said and will continue to say they , Paul and the elders and some of these unnamed apostle , had no right to tell people whether they we're gentile or home born israelites they didn't need to get circumcised Acts 15 v10 . The teaching should have been at that time , no circumcision alone will not save you but it is a law given by God and must be followed PERIOD . The law is not difficult deuteronomy 30 v 11.
    1 John 5 v 3the law is not grevious mean while paul and Peter call the law bondage and slavery they were both wrong..Alll student of the bible must read what God commands us to do out of his own mouth and obey it and you will never go wrong..
    Here's the question when God gives the laws and says in Exodus 12 v 14 to keep the law forever and through out your generations .
    What does it mean to you ?
    Don't give your perspective on this subject give us the facts . Paul taught a faith based doctrine only which is the opposite of what he believed as a pharisee which is also wrong which is why James , brother of Jesus attacked it in the book of James 2 v 14.

  • @jeremiahmcquiston7401
    @jeremiahmcquiston7401 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting that you are streaming them as live. Does this help reach more people and or allow for open discussion?

  • @francisaltitude9763
    @francisaltitude9763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice 🙏🏾

  • @zachariahz9832
    @zachariahz9832 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pual says: 1 Corinthians 7:18 Was anyone at the time of his call already circumcised? Let him not seek to remove the marks of circumcision. Was anyone at the time of his call uncircumcised? Let him not seek circumcision. 19 For neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but keeping the commandments of God. 20 Each one should remain in the condition in which he was called.
    YAH says: Genesis 17: 10-14
    This is my covenant, which you shall keep, between me and you and your offspring after you: Every male among you shall be circumcised. You shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskins, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and you. He who is eight days old among you shall be circumcised. Every male throughout your generations, whether born in your house or bought with your money from any foreigner who is not of your offspring, both he who is born in your house and he who is bought with your money, shall surely be circumcised. So shall my covenant be in your flesh an everlasting covenant. Any uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin shall be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant.”
    YAH: EVERLASTING COVENANT you will be cut off from your people if it's not done.
    Pual: it's of no value remain uncircumcised
    🤔
    Explain that please 119 ministries....

    • @psalm1047
      @psalm1047 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here is an article that could help you understand why we (as grafted in Gentiles) are not to be circumcised today; I think it's one of the most plausible explanation. I know another explanation is that circumcision is a type of sacrifice/offering to God, but I'm not well versed on the subject. Shalom!

    • @zachariahz9832
      @zachariahz9832 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@psalm1047 Google searched it but no article came up.

    • @zachariahz9832
      @zachariahz9832 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@psalm1047 Also Gentile is one of the most mis-appropriated words in the Bible. The Hebrew word is goy for a nation, as ethnos in Greek. But the word gentile is used in place for nation, as it is for heathen, and even pagan.
      In Matthew 10:5-6 it states these 12 apostles were sent out after instructing them, saying, "do not go on the road to the gentiles, ( it should read heathens not gentile) and do not enter a city of the Samaritans; but rather go to the lost sheep of the House of Israel and as you go, preach, saying, the Kingdom of Heaven has come near.
      One of the many instances where the word gentile was wrongly inserted. In fact the word Nation should be used in most cases, not gentile. When the apostles were preaching to the Nations, they meant the scattered children of YAH abroad. That can be very misleading. Basically the ones at the moment who were not following the law of YHWH.
      Rebecca carried two Goy in her womb. Israel was prophesied to be a mighty Goy and a company of mighty Goy. The word does not mean non Israelite as many Christians believe. In fact the words origin is of the Latin word gentillus, which means not a citizen of Rome, or one who follows Roman law. So if you want to be correct, Christ and his disciples were all Israelites, but they were all gentiles.
      When I excepted YAH Im no longer a "gentile" but an Israelite, that's how I see it anyway. I never call myself a gentile but instead I refer to myself as an Israelite for that reason. When Yahusha HaMashiach comes back you don't want to still be a gentile.
      At the end of the day each one of us have to answer to Him individually. As for me I will prioritize His words over Paul's. My boys and myself are circumcised not so that we can boast in our flesh but so that we show our obedience, as is proof of our faith.

    • @zachariahz9832
      @zachariahz9832 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@psalm1047 shalom sister in HaMashiach

    • @psalm1047
      @psalm1047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zachariahz9832 thank you for your very informative comment, I didn't know that about the word 'gentile'. I also agree, it's best to keep God's Words over anyone else's, including Paul! Shalom 🙏🏻

  • @jaycee1426
    @jaycee1426 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the teaching you mentioned that Titus was not forced to be circumcised yet Paul arranged gor Timothy yo be circumcised.. please explain if this was not necessary why the insistence ?

    • @119Ministries
      @119Ministries  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shalom,
      Thanks for reaching out!
      We cover this in our Circumcision Part 1 teaching. If you are interested in watching and testing it, you can find it here: 119ministries.com/teachings/video-teachings/detail/circumcision-the-eternal-sign-part-1/
      We hope this helps.
      Blessings to you and yours...

  • @kbuilt1633
    @kbuilt1633 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could it be there's talking about the law of the curses of Deuteronomy chapter 28 chapter 34 and the added Covenant of Deuteronomy 29:1 which is called the book of the law with Paul refers to which was stuck in the side of the Ark and the law of the curses is no longer our Guardian because Jesus became a curse for us curse it is every man that hangeth on a tree could it be that simple? That it would keep Israel doing the law until Jesus came or they would be cursed if there was no curse they would have just walked away and never came back

  • @matthewford4050
    @matthewford4050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    in this teaching 119 ministries states the following at 47:37:
    That being under the law means being under the dominion of sin. So let's rephrase the verse with this understanding:
    Gal 4:21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the [dominion of sin], do ye not hear the law? Hmm.. Does this make sense? No it does not. As you continue reading the text in Gal 4, you see that he is talking about the law.
    Trying to change what Paul wrote to suit your doctrine is not appropriate. Paul wrote the phrase " under the law", not "under the dominion of sin" as you state. Nor did Paul write "under the laws penalty". Let's rephrase again:
    Gal 4:21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the [law's penalty], do ye not hear the law? You are trying to state that Paul wrote something that he simply did not write.
    Also, the covenant that Sarah represents is the covenant that Christ made with the Father. The covenant that God made with himself with Abraham in a deep sleep is a figure of this covenant. Since Christ was the lamb slain before the foundation, you are correct that it predated, but predated in the sense of eternity. But the covenant Sarah is figure of, is clearly the covenant Christ made with the Father at the cross.
    Do you know the difference between a covenant and an promise? A covenant requires BOTH parties to participate. A promise is only based on ONE party and the other party can rest in the actions of the one party that made the promise. God made a covenant with himself and gave a promise. So we rest in his promises. In like fashion, inheritance as a child is by promise, not performance or obligation as in a covenant. Again, God promised to Abraham by God making a covenant with himself. Abraham was not part of the covenant, but only a recipient of the PROMISE.
    Lastly, Throughout Gal 3 and 4, Paul is discussing the Law. I think we would both agree on that. So why do you think he took a detour for 3 verses to something entirely different and then came back to discussing the law? You are trying to convince people that the Galatians are struggling so much with the law of God that everyone has to adhered to it or they are not saved, then you indicate that are struggling with pagan practices. Which is it? Paul is still talking about the same subject.

  • @fredmorgan5387
    @fredmorgan5387 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jas 2:12

  • @richardcassinari7026
    @richardcassinari7026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To bad he does not even know where Gods word is....not sure which version he's using but it's certainly not God Perfect Preserved word and it makes this study wrong because the words he's reading change the meaning God intended.

    • @baleu42
      @baleu42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The spirit hasn't written on the tablet of your heart yet. That's okay, eventually you'll understand.

    • @richardcassinari7026
      @richardcassinari7026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@baleu42 I have in my hands the words that the Living God Preserved....the only way I can know if God speaks to me is to compare it to His word....how do you make that determination?
      Scripture says the heart is deceitful and desperately wicked who can know it.

    • @thegodiknowministries
      @thegodiknowministries 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@richardcassinari7026 Scripture also says that God's law would be written on the tablets of our heart. One scripture does not contradict another, and if an interpretation that has contradiction is in error

    • @HAChrist
      @HAChrist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thegodiknowministries which laws are written on your heart?

    • @thegodiknowministries
      @thegodiknowministries 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HAChrist Are you not familiar with Jeremiah?

  • @nightmarecall4317
    @nightmarecall4317 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    soo sunde watch this ohhhh

  • @thegodiknowministries
    @thegodiknowministries 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm so sick of you guys putting things in context! Oh, we have to read all of Paul. Oh, we have to understand the language. Oh, whatever! I'm just going to ask my pastor what to think

    • @Sherriyah
      @Sherriyah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🤣

    • @seekingGODs-YHWHsTruth144K
      @seekingGODs-YHWHsTruth144K 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If anyone of you really want Truth you have to search for it, advice dont go to church, they have some of the truth, but half the truth is still a lie 💯📖 facts are that the Torah is part of the new covenant, look up Jeremiah 31:33 in the Hebrew, book of Hebrews quotes that very scripture, Messiah himself said heaven and earth would pass before anything perished from the Torah Mathew 5:17-20, Messiah kept the Torah perfectly and said follow Me i have laid before you the perfect example, sadly people want to take away from the Father's perfect Torah, dont fall for it, NO ONE has the authority to do so , not even the Son that's why he said I do nothing of myself, of course we don't keep the Torah to earn salvation, it is the Father's instructions and will for our lives, we can only be justified through the Blood of Messiah Yeshua , but do we continue in sin that grace may abound GOD FORBID Romans 6:1-2, do we make void the Torah through faith GOD FORBID we ESTABLISH the Torah Romans 3:31, the whole point of the Torah is to point out sin, if you get rid of it we no longer are aware of these sins the Torah points out, may YAH bless you all 🙏💯♥️☝️📖

    • @jasonwthompson5003
      @jasonwthompson5003 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why you asking a man what he thinks?

    • @thegodiknowministries
      @thegodiknowministries 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasonwthompson5003 It's sarcasm

    • @jasonwthompson5003
      @jasonwthompson5003 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thegodiknowministries what is?

  • @silveriorebelo2920
    @silveriorebelo2920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    so full of pseudo-wisdom...

    • @thegodiknowministries
      @thegodiknowministries 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you have a disagreement with the teaching, you should be specific. If you have true wisdom, you should be willing to share it, and not make childish comments without backing them up

    • @OwlPsalm
      @OwlPsalm ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ridicule is the first symptom of denial, psychology is not on your side

  • @therockstar17
    @therockstar17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You do the same thing that all false teachers and cults do. You cherry pick verses out of context, then assume things to create your own so that you can claim they’re in context, jumping back and forth and back and forth, like taking Romans 7:12 out of context, instead reading the rest of Romans to see we’re not under the law but are made righteous through faith like Abraham, who did not have the Torah. You never read from start to finish because it would destroy your claims. We do not get Torah Observance if we read Romans and Galatians (and Hebrews for that matter) from start to finish. Curious you left out Galatians 2:15-21 which says we aren’t justified by works of the law but faith in Christ because we died to the law and that if righteousness comes through the law then it nullifies grace and Christ died needlessly, drawing a sharp distinction between obeying the law and faith in Christ. You also left out the extremely important Galatians 3:1-9, I suspect because it also destroys your argument. Stop teaching falsely. Practice what you preach and teach the whole word of God, not this cherry picked stuff that you interpret through a lense of assumed and redefined words. The “sect” in Acts 15 were Pharisees which were in fact known for following human traditions but they were not claiming membership in their sect or following human traditions, the text flat out says circumcision and the “law of Moses” which is Torah, and Peter responds by saying that’s a yoke of slavery neither them or their forefathers could bear. They and their forefathers were in the sect of the Pharisees? No, he’s talking about the Law of Moses! The fact is, you along with all others who believe in Torah observance do the same thing, you cherry pick verses and redefine words, never reading completely through anything, because if you did, it would refute your position. I’ve seen a guy use these same tactics to make the case that we’re supposed to be perfectly sinless, by redefining what “lawlessness,” is, rip a bunch of stuff from 1 John out of context, and verse jumping around. People can protect themselves from false teachings like these by simply reading their Bible through and through.

    • @seekingGODs-YHWHsTruth144K
      @seekingGODs-YHWHsTruth144K 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If anyone of you really want Truth you have to search for it, advice dont go to church, they have some of the truth, but half the truth is still a lie 💯📖 facts are that the Torah is part of the new covenant, look up Jeremiah 31:33 in the Hebrew, book of Hebrews quotes that very scripture, Messiah himself said heaven and earth would pass before anything perished from the Torah Mathew 5:17-20, Messiah kept the Torah perfectly and said follow Me i have laid before you the perfect example, sadly people want to take away from the Father's perfect Torah, dont fall for it, NO ONE has the authority to do so , not even the Son that's why he said I do nothing of myself, of course we don't keep the Torah to earn salvation, it is the Father's instructions and will for our lives, we can only be justified through the Blood of Messiah Yeshua , but do we continue in sin that grace may abound GOD FORBID Romans 6:1-2, do we make void the Torah through faith GOD FORBID we ESTABLISH the Torah Romans 3:31, the whole point of the Torah is to point out sin, if you get rid of it we no longer are aware of these sins the Torah points out, may YAH bless you all 🙏💯♥️☝️📖

    • @amkr186
      @amkr186 ปีที่แล้ว

      Being made righteous could mean getting saved. Everyone gets saved by faith like Abraham.

    • @amkr186
      @amkr186 ปีที่แล้ว

      22:54

    • @healthywellnessperspective
      @healthywellnessperspective ปีที่แล้ว

      Jesus didn’t come to change what lawlessness is. What Bible is your reading? If anyone changes the Father’s words, they are false teachers.

    • @nust8235
      @nust8235 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s a lot of misinterpretation for one comment