What if someone in the past saw an attempt against Ronald Reagan and then warned people to pray against it? They would've been correct regardless if it made them look right either way it played out. There was an attempt and the attempt was stopped. If God said it, it's true regardless of how the man looks. Look at the true prophet Jonah. He sure did look some kind of way when his word to Ninevah failed to materialize. And yet God's word was true regardless of how things appeared. This is not an endorsement of Reed. It is also not an indictment. I am not familiar with his prophecies.
Many people saw assassination attemps. It happened before. It can happen again. But you all approach the prophetic words wrong. You can weight in (1 Cor 14) but you don't judge it prematurely. You wait and see (Deuter 18)
Well, think about Jonah. He prophesied against none of them, but they prayed, and God changed his mind. As new covenant people who walk in love, shouldn’t this be our goal?
I can't for the life of me understand how anyone can say Chris Reed is a valid prophet. I listen to him preach and I hear him twists the scriptures time and again, he gets prophesy wrong time and time again. I'm flabbergasted! I agree with Josh here. He has red flags all over the place. the apostle john in turkey? Can he even articulate the gospel? Can he exegete a passage of scripture? Can anyone provide me a link? To me there is no difference between Black, Bruer, Jennifer LeClair and Chris Reed. Chris said he "speaks into" and Jennifer said she "decrees and declares" Maybe the fellas like Chris Reed better because they're his mates or they have more colleagues in common and Jennifer doesn't? I don't know. You guys are way too lenient in my opinion but that said i do like that you guys do these episodes. I loved when Josh said that the gospel must be preached to defeat the enemy. Excellent. I'm still waiting and hoping the remnant guys do a series on the Lakeland revival. Cant wait! Keep up the good work. God Bless Andrew.
I wasn't expecting to wasn't to watch this entire video, but I appreciated every second. I'm curious about your thoughts on Johnathan Cahn's putting puzzle pieces together from scripture, world events, biblical concepts, etc.
As a Continuationist.....I would Glady spend my time listing to Excellent Cessationist teachers than that Collection Of Mostly False ProFits and Teachers you just Critiqued! Makes me want to listen to Several Hrs. of my NKJV Audio Bible as a Cleansing from all of That Drek!
Chris Rosebrough of TH-cam Fighting For The Faith channel is an excellent teacher, critic of false prophets. He's testified of miraculous healings he's seen and so is not completely against "the gifts." He just feels the gospel is enough, and there's no need for signs, miracles, or prophecy, and those who seek them are easy to deceive.
I attended Troy Brewer"s Church for 20 years. He has a great heart, and he is genuine in his faith, but he is prone to flare and hyperbole. His authored books plagiarizes E.W. Bullinger. He does a lot to help people in need. Feeds tens of thousands of people every year, and rescues numbers of children and individuals from human trafficking. I realized a few years ago there were issues with Troy's teaching. It really does breaks my heart.
IF YOU PASTOR A FLOCK, YOU BETTER LEAD THEM IN SPIRIT AND TRUTH. THE HOLY SPIRIT IS PERFECT. IF YOU ARE BEING LEAD BY THE SPIRIT, YOU WONT HAVE FLAWED TEACHINGS. YOU SHOULD NOT JUST ACCEPT IT. NOR MAKE EXCUSES IR RESPOND WITH, show me a perfect pastor. GET OUT IF THE PULPIT IF YOUR TEACHING ISNT TRUTH.
@414-ForSuch-A-TimeAsThis 1st of all,no need to yell. 2nd. If you think that your teaching will be perfect because you're "led" by the spirit, you're being silly. No one is perfect and we ALL are constantly learning until we die. I wish it were that simple but it isn't. And telling people that they will never be wrong if there led by the spirit is saying we all know when we are being led perfectly at all times. And that kind of thinking does more damage than good. It's just not reality..
@414-ForSuch-A-TimeAsThis Your soul, thus your spirit and heart is reborn once you revile the moments you slip and drift from His will, however we on an individual level wrestle the rebellion in our mind and flesh and it can be frustrating, but do not forget that your will might be in line with His Will, however we remain limited due to our limited perspective, the eventual solution awaits those who passes and goes to truly live with Him, but until our last breath, we wrestle, but no longer do we do so alone.
Josh’s comments on Jennifer LeClairs “prophesy” were spot on. Nothing but the spiritual buzzwords of the day. His suggestion to go preach the gospel instead nailed it!
Josh you did great! YOU WERE BOLD AND COURAGEOUS I LOVE IT!!!! I come from the same background as you and totally understand your heart and have prayed for the same reform prophetically to come to the church and that jargon is NOT helpful for those struggling trusting true prophecy and the gifts due to misuse, and bad charisma with NO ACCOUNTABILITY!!!! The LORD will bring this “honor culture” non sense down its man idolatry! Which is also sin! Some of these teachers and prophets are equally becoming “Idols” themselves and blindly unknowing it! THE WORLD NEEDS the unadulterated GOSPEL!!!! Just preach the WORD! These remind me of the same book of Jude prophets
I think we need a segment that just scrolls through TH-cam and counts how many videos are a 2024 word of the year is an open door. I scrolled and didn’t even count there were so many.
Just a note on the guy who kept calling the Hebrew year 5784. We're not in 5784. According to the Bible the new year happens when the barley is aviv or ripe, this happens in the spring. The passover feast is celebrated in the first month of the year. Rosh hoshannah in the Fall that most call the "Hebrew New Year" is actually the Babylonian new year that the Hebrews adopted whole they were in exile.
Shame you didn’t get to Troy Black. In his channel he has a playlist where he reviews prophetic words of his own that come to pass, which are often very specific and accurate. I love that he never makes the words about events and people the main point, but always points back to the gospel.
LeClaire’s message was more an exhortation than a predictive prophecy. Exhortation to recognize the current spiritual battle and unite to pray to defeat the onslaught. Her language and style is her own. It would be helpful if you would explain what falls under the definition of prophecy.
I was at her church, she dropped little so called discernment that I was Anointing, ( been stalked and harassed by MASON'S and Mafia Catholic Church in my opinion) dropping little discernments that I had blessings and crazy favor ( marriage to the prophet in her church that was a multi millionaire) they played gaslighting games and ended up kicking me out but no real reason, claimed I was trespassing, I came to her for help and her and Vanessa Angelini ( so called prophet) turned my life into a nightmare , I been homeless for 3 years, can't seem to move on with my life ,have a obsession with trying to get back in , please pray for me
IMO, there are people here and elsewhere that give prophetic words concerning words about political events/people that aren't from God -- they seem more like analysis of news headlines and then an analysis is made but called prophecy. First time I noticed this was in 1992 when Pat Robertson said on air that God told him that George H W Bush was going to win re-election. But then in November when Bill Clinton won, not a word was said, "Oh, I missed this. I made a mistake." Chris Reid makes that sort of impression on me -- seems non-authentic to me.
Chris’ European ‘prophecies’ are just conclusions drawn from the media. I also have ‘predicted’ the same thing yesterday when someone asked me what I thought.
And most of his American “prophecies” everything he said has been and is being discussed in both alt and mainstream media. And a Major earthquake in California has been “prophesied” so many times! I just can’t really believe it but will see if it happens
Watching from Namibia. My question when listening to many of the propbetic words are: Even if the word was accurate, why do we need to have that information? God is not into just giving information about the future for fun. If the word does not directly glorify God by exhorting or warning the church specifically, what is the point of the word? Also when judging a word that was given we can judge it at a physical level, but also at a spiritual level. I believe our goal should be to practice and be able to discern in the spirit only whether someone is from the Lord or not. We should remember that even satan's people can give prophetic words that will come to pass. Words coming to pass is a good place to start, but it cannot be the only measuring stick we use to prove legitimacy.
Let me share something with you concerning the prophetic 1.NEVER EVER say that Yhwh isn’t into given words for fun , learn who Jesus messiah really is because he has a lot of diverse sides to his personality , he shares words for warning and edification, edification comes In many forms and One is To uplift people and You definitely can have fun doing that … ministry ain’t all Stiff and tight necked and mean faces as some personalities Would like to deem It because that is the humanistic flesh God is a Spirit with a personality 2. When prophesying extra information like numbers or names etc. the purpose of that is because it increases the faith for one and next if there be unbelievers near by then they who don’t believe will possibly believe because only God himself can know certain unknown things. So when a vessel of the Messiah is used in accurate information then it is a fruitful thing because it gets believes and unbelievers to increase their faith in God overall … Also saying Extra information proves and shows the detail and forensic prophecy of the one who is delivering yhwh word which shows true nature and character and God’s love for the soul and Their life details which is always good (pay attention to the details) the Holy Spirit is in every detail Of our life… 3. Lastly , but NOT least … words manifesting proves a prophet is accurate and real in prophecy , if the person says a false word then you would LABEL them false right ? So if the word is accurate, then it’s safe to say that the word is not false ? Make it make sense bro ? Lastly I will say that psychics can speak accurate words , but prophecy isn’t just words it’s always accompanied by POWER - When a prophet release the word is given , but the power upon the word is what changes the situations of a soul’s life… So Yes a witch can give a word , but a witch cannot change lives with their words and That’s the primary difference and measuring stick For the prophetic totality as you put it … HERE IS A BONUS FOR YOU: A true prophet doesn’t even always have to get a word from God to speak a word , sometimes it’s simply By the word of the prophet and because they are who they are in God , God Will honor their words just because they are his prophet … We Can see this in 1 KINGS 17:1 when the prophet said mother rain or dew will fall upon the planet earth unless it is by whose word ? It didn’t say God word , the prophet said by my word and my word alone and it came to Past and God Honored the word of his prophet even tho God didn’t speak it That time … I Can go On and on because I been doing this for a long time and the prophetic or the supernatural isn’t limited or is open for self Or Private interpretation You just study more and learn more and Sit at the feet of a good teacher in the prophetic who can shape and groom you so You won’t misdirect or misjudge yourself Or others all because You mag be limited in your understanding of the things of the spirit or Just may need to study more ion know 🤷♂️ either way not trying to disrespect you , just trying to teach you better shalom
Read what the Bible says about it....and ask Father for desernment....Father will give you a knowing within your being IF the prophecy is true or false. Over 80% of prophecies are FALSE. Father said so. Have to be careful. Some people "live off prophecies" and that ought not be. Bible says despise not prophecies...THAT'S TRUE PROPHECIES.... BLESSINGS TO YOU.😊
Bottom line. Any of these prophecies affect the way we live? If someone is just guessing “I think God is saying…” What are we to do with that? I make a mental note of it, and live my Christian life as usual.
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
You can tell after the Iowa caucus speech with Trump and Vivek that Haley is 100% not going to be the vp. Maybe Tulsi Gabbard but definitely not Nikki.
Hey guys, huge fan. Just had a question that I’ve been thinking about when it comes to stuff like these prophetic words. When someone is just outright wrong, speaking nonsense that y’all have been calling out, how do we draw the line if they’re truly even Christians? I’m thinking of this because of the Matthew “away from me I never knew you” verse. Thanks!
Be ever so fearful and careful to EVER try to determine the salvation of someone. That truly is up to them and the LOrd as @jameslinmd mentioned. Too many Heretick Hunter "Ministries that want to Damn every believer to hell because you don't like their doctrine or they speak in tongues, or believe in all the gifts of the Spirit still on action today. Please forgive me if it seems my tone is too harsh, but I've seen too many people "get hurt" or "deconstruct" due to that type of "discernment".
Why? If this is the onset of a revival? If you are a Christian you live in God's kingdom. Everything pertaining to you has already been provided by heaven. Don't hope he is wrong , thank God for provision and protection from harm. I pray that not a shingle on my house come lose, that the angels protect my family and I from harm during an earthquake. If there is damage I thank you Father for your supernatural provision to fix what is broken. AMEN....Do not live in fear but make every thought obedient to Christ, He already provided it.
Lol the first guy is "prophesying" what he sees in the news. All of his "prophetic" words I have heard talked about in the political sphere for the last few months.
Someone please educate me a bit. I just did a study on the Second Great Awakening. There were many charismatic things that took place in that movement. Why does Chris Reed state that the Pentecostal movement started in CA?
This is funny to watch but it's also sad. I'm reading the chat replay as the video goes on and it's brutal. The problem I see is that no one here seems to understand how to discern prophecy. I'm not saying I'm perfect at it but at least I can listen to a lot of people and be able to tell if there's any truth to it. Scripture has a narrative, if you understand the narrative then understand what may be true and what won't be. The prediction of an assassination attempt that was mentioned in this video I saw this 4 years ago with Trump. I don't think he will be allowed to win or if he does won't be allowed to stay. Now do I know this for sure? No. I wrote in January 2020 that he would most likely lose the election for violating Leviticus 25:23, 2 Chronicles 6:5-6, and Joel 3:1-2 with his satanically inspired Middle East peace plan. But even though I was 99% sure he was going to lose that November, I never want to falsely predict something (maybe I just didn't have enough faith or boldness) so I said if he did win I believed he would be assassinated. Again I don't claim to be a prophet or have a gift to give prophecy, but I have a gift for understanding it. This guy saying it now for this coming election seems like verification of what I believed would happen if Trump won a 2nd term. Only time will tell if it's true but I wouldn't be surprised which also means if it happened I wouldn't be outraged by the event. I would have confirmation that it was the will of the LORD and to act calmly and with peace not out of fear. Now this might be the only correct thing that person said but because of my experience, I'm paying attention to that. this isn't political either, I'm not an American, and I'm not always a fan of Trump but that's irrelevant. Since January 30, 2020, the LORD has been actively dismantling the West including America. An event like that would most likely send the country over the cliff. I don't believe there are prophets, I believe there are gifts of prophecy, which to me is the discernment of biblical prophecy and sometimes words from the LORD, dreams, and visions to fill in some of the gaps, but they all have to fit the biblical narrative. What bothers me about these reviews is not that they're right or wrong, but the hosts themselves don't have a clear understanding of the biblical narrative of prophecy. How can you evaluate whether something is true or false, whether it fits within the biblical narrative if you don't understand the biblical narrative to begin with? Bible prophecy rarely makes sense in advance of the events but makes complete sense after the fact. But the one thing we know is that any prediction won't contradict the biblical narrative. For example, if someone said that this year will be a year of peace, I would immediately be skeptical of their word from the LORD, because that's not the biblical narrative. Now that doesn't mean everything they say is false but I'm way more skeptical and doubtful they'd get anything correct. Many ask how does all this glorify Jesus? When you understand the biblical narrative and you get a prophetic word that might give clarity or fill in the holes a bit and it comes to pass your faith will be strengthened and it will point to a better understanding of Eschatology and your faith won't be shaken. The LORD is going to unfold the future His Way, it will come to pass. These things are meant to strengthen our faith when these difficult times come. I find most Christians have poor theology and eschatology and so it's going to be a confusing and frustrating topic because we know there is something there but we can't discern it and others can't communicate it because they might see it, or be given a word but they have little context for it. I'm not saying I am against these videos but the purpose I see is are people vague of specific? Has any specific prediction come to pass? If so, ok they might be legit. But what about why they are correct? Why did they predict something and the LORD allow it to happen? Why that prophecy, how does it play into the greater narrative? What are we supposed to glean from it? For example, if an assassination attempt occurs many Americans including Christians would be outraged, but us having been told in advance would let us know it's the LORD's will, He foretold it and allowed it, so we are to be calm, level-headed, prepared just in case. That amongst the chaos our faith has been strengthened and not rattled or shaken. If such an event occurred whatever follows is exactly what the LORD wants and we are to act as ambassadors of Him and not lose our minds. My encouragement is to get to know the biblical narrative. Understand the 30,000 ft view of Scripture before you try to figure out which is true here and which isn't. So that as these pieces of the puzzle are given we can discern what to pay attention to and look at them as more of a heads up. But if they come to pass we weren't caught off guard. I look at them as a possible early warning system. I don't follow the person or lift them up on a pedestal, I use their words to see if they are an early warning system so I am not unprepared or knocked off balance. I hope this helps. Take care.
I really enjoyed your detailed response, and agree with what you said…. I could add a few of my own thoughts from listening to these kids for the first time, but it’s really just what you’re stressing here…. Simply put….. study study study…. The narrative! Ps… I saw your series on eschatology and looking forward to listening.
That’s a pretty bold claim to say there will be a spiritual awakening in Southern California. I spent a lot of time there and not once did I see a church or anyone even remotely religious. I’ll definitely keep my eye on that one. The earthquake too
I think we need to be careful not to dismiss a prophecy just because it doesn't come to pass within a certain timeline remember Isaiah died possibly being labeled a false prophet because it took 400 years before Jesus was born.
😕I have to admit, I unsubscribed after this one. You guys are constantly complaining that prophecy isn’t accurate enough, and then Chris Reed comes along, and you criticize him for being… too accurate? One of you asked “why” does he prophesy the specific way he does - well, God speaks to him very specifically about everything. Have you not watched his sermons? He pulls people out of the crowd all the time very specifically and God uses it to encourage. His track record is excellent, both as a leader, and as a prophet. God often spoke to Bob Jones as specifically as this, and I was very encouraged to know that God is still speaking about kings and the land, just as he always has. The Bible says not to despise the gift of prophecy. I’m all for testing the word, but it’s tricky. There can be accurate prophecy with the wrong heart (witchcraft), and words like “The virgin shall conceive and give birth” that take hundreds of years to come true. Sometimes I have had a word as strange as “garden hose” and the other person was undone by it. God works very mysteriously with this one. My concern is your tone. Love some of your interviews, but in these you sound so critical, you border on arrogance toward the gift of prophecy altogether. Please check your hearts, guys. 🙏🏾
Chris Reed has an excellent word of knowledge. That does not count as a stamp of approval on his body-wide prophetic gift (Rick often spells out how different personal and corporate prophecy are) and so far his track record on these is far from perfect. It also doesn’t put a stamp of approval on ‘revelatory’ teaching, which has only grown more problematic in terms of his flimsy grasp on theology and his end-time preaching. It just doesn’t have that quality. Nor does it mean a stamp of approval on character like the consistent grandstanding on Paul Cain and his embarrassing role in the Bickle saga that got utterly called out by Joel Richardson. If you want to know what type of error can come from elevating a man with a good word of knowledge into the position of global teacher and prophet, look no further than the demise of William Branham. I think Chris is young, completely in over his head, catapulted in a position that his maturity, intellect and character can’t possibly support and that he actually means well. I believe, hope and genuinely pray that he can make a good turnaround but he must work hard not to fall into the utterly erroneous ways of his fathers and this will come with large adjustments to his self image and outlook on his ministry. It’s best to stick with what God annoints and gifts you for and not assume all the rest will be blessed under that gift, and take appropriate steps to stay low when God is judging His body for hypocrisy and sin in this corner. Take it from someone who’s constantly turned down promotion, position and ministry scale when the validity of the prophetic was seen by leaders. It is better to be a servant than a ruler and we must not delude ourselves on which we are trying to be.
@@michaelmiller5024 I will listen to your reply. I admit, the first guy started in negatively and I was fatigued of that tone and turned the episode off. Forgive me, I'll take a listen. Thanks for commenting.
The more outrageously the gifts are abused and ministerial behavior goes off the deep end, the more I grieve and pray for the repentance and restoration of these individuals who fleece God's sheep and grossly try to mislead those of us who are Charismatic or Pentecostal and young, naive lambs. It is important to not mock but pray and to humbly bring correction to those we believe are in error. {Galatians 6:1-5]
The first guy (around the 15 minutes) was just spouting out things he'd read in the news. I could actually post links after links of from news websites and TH-cam channels already discussing the things he said. The man is not a prophet.
I think this is good for people to get discernment and I myself do get tired of people saying oh there's an eight in it and that means new beginnings etc
"Some heard it thunder" etc. Aren't we missing the point that John who records the prophecy heard it as the voice of God??? Who cares if the bloke next door didn't hear the word that God spoke to you clearly? What bearing does that have on whether you heard it clearly? This scripture cannot be used to suggest the word of God can be hard to hear clearly when John, the target of the word, literally heard it word for word.
I really like this channel I don't know all your guys's names but it seems like you guys are having decent discernment for sure on scripture specially holding to the gospel and not all the weird mysticism stuff God speed
It never came to pass. That's why prophecy is simply the word of the Lord, not the prediction of future events. What these guys are doing is weighing in to see if it is a true prophetic word. To be frank, there is no objective way to discern a prophetic word in advance. That's why the scripture takes a passive stand (Deuter 18)
Nineveh, the capital of Assyria, was destroyed in 612 B.C. by the Medes. This was in fulfillment of the prophet Nahum’s prediction that God would completely destroy the city (Nahum 1). A number of factors combine to determine both the date and manner of Nineveh’s destruction.
@@DaltonGrayMusic that may be so. But we're talking about Jonah's prophecy. People have repented and God relented. Nahum's prophecy is a separate matter.
Can someone please just tell people to turn from their idolatry and repent? Put your trust in God and seek Him with all you got. Please, for the love of all that's good, stop trying to predict the future and obey the word He has already given us.
Well in that Word we have Acts 2: 16 But this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel: 17 ‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams. 18 And on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days; And they shall prophesy. 19 I will show wonders in heaven above And signs in the earth beneath: Blood and fire and vapor of smoke. 20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord. 21 And it shall come to pass That whoever calls on the name of the Lord Shall be saved.’ Joel 2:28 “And it shall come to pass afterward That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your old men shall dream dreams, Your young men shall see visions. 29 And also on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days. 30 “And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth: Blood and fire and pillars of smoke. 31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord. 32 And it shall come to pass That whoever calls on the name of the Lord Shall be saved. For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be deliverance, As the Lord has said, Among the remnant whom the Lord calls." So when should we expect this outpouring of the Holy Spirit? "Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord." Do you know when the "Day of the LORD" is? If you don't then how will you be able to tell genuine outpouring and genuine dreams and visions from false ones? There is a balance. With so many various interpretations of Eschatology, dreams and visions that are confirmed clarify which view is true and which ones are false since there is ONLY 1 way the LORD will unfold the future. Once Christians see which Eschatological view is correct and how to understand Scripture then that becomes a powerful evangelism tool we have to share the Gospel. The reason this area is so problematic is that far too many Christians have adopted falsehoods regarding Eschatology and other doctrines. They read Scripture and can't make heads or tails of it. Many have no clue which views are even correct, or whether we should be looking for this outpouring or not. It's sad to watch.
8But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward [c]us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance
I live for the day when the words "mandate" and "mantle" are retired from the body of Christ. Though I suppose the New Testament does mention them a combined (checks notes) zero times.
I’m confused. I keep hearing predictions and prophecies used interchangeably. Are they the same thing, and are these predictions or prophecies and have they have heard from God or not?
@@James1v1-pf6lodo you just make a statement and quote irrelevant scriptures to confuse the believers? Have you forgotten Jeremiah predicted the fall of Jerusalem and it came to pass? Jeremiah 32. Who gave this misinformation a thumbs up?
@@jameslinmd why do you call them predictions? Multiple times in Jeremiah 32 it says “and the word of the Lord came to me. “That doesn’t sound like a prediction.
Would be cool if y’all would revisit the Mike Bickle ihop kc prophetic history again after the fact …😳. Hindsight now knowing what we know, the layers of deception and questions it presents is mind blowing.
You're confusing MB's character integrity with the prophetic words spoken over IHOPKC. To be sure, they did receive prophetic words from others. It's not just MB's own revelation. Did you forget God use Balaam to prophecize over Israel? Is character a measuring stick of true prophetic word?
@@jameslinmd The fact that God CAN speak through a compromised person doesn't mean you DON"T ever use character as an element of discernment. Especially if he appears to have been using "prophecy" in a manipulative manner.
@@philipchaisson No. You don't. That's not a criteria to evaluate true prophetic word. A real prophet can give false prophecy and vice versa. It doesn't always have to do with his or her character. Each prophecy must weight individually. There are many ways to do it. The integrity of the prophet is not a consistent metric.
@jameslinmd if part of that character includes using prophecy in a manipulative manner it does. I'm not saying every prophecy automatically becomes false, I'm saying going back and taking another look with that knowledge in mind is a wise thing to do
I automatically turn ppl off who preach 7 mountains mandate, decreeing and declaring. This is the WOF and The Passion Bible stuff. I would never listen to this woman. We are all called to be Bereans and Wachmen in the Wall. Please review Amanda Grace. She is always prophecying and my heart is a little troubled by her but she seems to be a woman of God.
I suggest you all scouting through the Bible before weighing in because it is the basis of our belief. There are many beliefs and practices within the charismatic circle not rooted in the Bible. For example, do not decree and declare anything unless God prompted to do so. It's not a formula of spiritual success as you all correctly pointed out. God does use numbers and designs to convey meaning that transcend time and space. Hebrew 8.
Chris Reed prophesied in April 2022. It’s called …. Chris Reed, $50 dollar bill dream from the Lord…. And he stated in it that he believed this dream would unfold in 2022 and 2023. Maybe some of it came to pass. It did have my attention. However. You three, maybe give that video a listen.
Young man you just inserted your own perspective - remove certain words.. I know language matters however we all see through the lenses of our experiences! 😊
38Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the [k]remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”
If a person ever has the experience of getting or giving even just one genuine, accurate, biblically sound and effective prophetic word that cuts to the heart and is proven to be, or plays out to be, accurate - from that moment on you have a baseline by which you can measure whether or not someone else is really speaking a word from God. Meaning...if you have experienced the real thing, there is a quality difference between that and a lot of what folks try to pass off. Or when someone is mixing his own stuff with what might be coming from God.
@nathanwatson1915 That's not how hearing from God works. It takes time to learn to hear from Him. But when He speaks, its always correct as it is God.
@@DaltonGrayMusic I'm not saying God can't speak, I'm saying that a person who dishes out "words from the Lord" like candy on Halloween is gonna randomly get one right here and there, but it ain't God speaking.
....the questions should be asked, whats the point, and who gets the glory? The lord usually sends a warning when he tells of future events, for people to prepare or repent. Joseph and the famine, for example.
Exactly what I was thinking on Brewer’s tact, this falls on its face when you isolate ‘24’ to desperately try and make up meaning, that number has come and gone 20 times since Christs coming, was it about end times every time? 😂😂😂
@@christianwoudenberg3393 What is even more astonishing is the fact that we are not even in the year 5784 as everyone believes. If you take the common date for creation as 4004 BC and add 2024 you get the Jewish year 6028. So everyone who is trying to determine what God is doing based on the year are 244 years behind. lol, lol, lol So if God is doing things based on the calendar year what everyone thinks he is doing he did in 1780. lol
@@tagladyify To cite an example, he prophesied a few weeks prior that it happening that it would be the queen's last year on earth. To my knowledge, this was not in the news a few weeks prior that she was even hospitalized, especially in that she died of old age. This was also towards the end of the year, which meant there was little wiggle room for it. I'm not sure how this could have been something he heard in the news prior. Yes she was old, but for anyone else knew, it could have been the following year or the following five years. A few months time frame to get it right is pretty remarkable in my opinion.
I love what you guys do. As someone who grew up in the charismatic movement and spend 4 years in the Brownsville revival I see a LOT of abuse with the prophetic. To be honest I know of few who actually truly walk in it. However, with this video I want to breakdown each person with you. Chris Reed isn’t saying anything that a person paying attention to geopolitics couldn’t say. His “prophetic” word and “impressions” are nothing more than someone who’s aware of the current geo political environment and can read what’s going on. None of what he said is prophetic. Unless I am prophetic too because I could have told you the same things. My problem with a lot of what Chris says is that it’s the same “word” just repackaged for 2024. Or whatever year it is. To pretend that this is the Word of the Lord is wicked and wrong.
why is "word of faith" wrong? and what's wrong with the "7 mountains" thing I've never heard of it before but you've referenced it and in my quick research all I saw was these 7 areas God wants Christians to influence those 7 areas because those 7 areas controls or influences most peoples lives.
These are the predictions from Craig Hamilton. Almost word for word. He’s an English psychic. He’s been saying this since last year so hopefully he’s not “borrowing” from Craig Hamilton
Chris is legit. I went to one of his services back in 2021. After service we spoke. He made me aware of a hurricane that would hit the Tampa/ st Pete area. Told me to pray into it. Wasn’t sure if it was 2021 or 2022. We’ll my power went out for 7 days. Because of his word I bought a generator when i heard the hurricane was coming. That one was on point.
Are number s prophetic. I started having dreams in 2022 while my husband seeing repeated numbers. I also start seeing numbers it’s hard to know exactly what they mean. There are so nan verses in bible, so how do you know which one to apply
You guys should look into Troy Brewers ministry before you dismiss the man. He has saved insane amounts of kids from sex trafficking for the last decades, and is still faithfully doing that. Yes he loves his numbers but look at the fruit of his ministry before you dismiss him.
Agree. He is doing a lot of good works and loves Jesus. However, he loses some credibility with the numbers thing. Some are just flat wrong. "Watchful" is found 24 times in the Bible? What version is he reading from? The most I could find after searching from numerous versions in the Bible is only 6 verses.
Why was the guy with the beard and glasses looking at the 84th verse of the bible and stuff? I didn't get where he got the numbers from, was that a hebrew calendar thing?
I agree that any Political Prophesies should be specific and demonstrate that God is in control. Otherwise, it's just another round of rinse and repeat, same old , same old nothing demonstrating God is not in control?
Revelation and “trending” are two different things. At its heart, prophecy is a revelation from the Lord by His Spirit, not picking up on something natural.
God Bless all you guys for these discussions. So right on. I am so gladyou reject the insanity of 7-mountain dominionism. What a load of fleshly garbage. As well as decreeing & declaring; so often misused. When and where is your podcast?
Great show! Love you guys judging these things so carefully and graciously. The body of Christ is very much in need of this type of example and instruction. I did notice something, though. You were saying Chris Reed prophesied Nikki Haley would be Trump's running mate. He did not. He said for a couple of years he's prophesied a woman of color would be Trump's running mate. He then said his personal opinion was it would be Nikki Hailey. He was quite careful to differentiate the two. Still, quite a testable prophesy. The only real prophesy of the group. Very sad.
I think these wrong practices could stem from something like the wave of the okkult in the 20. century over pretty much every breach of sciene including theologie and religious studies. A book highly suspicous on the number aspect could be: numbers and time from Franz M. L
Chris Reed , I can't take him seriously. He sees an assassination attempt, but people should pray against it. He's "right" either way
Good point
Has the lord shown you to pray again the plans of the enemy?
What if someone in the past saw an attempt against Ronald Reagan and then warned people to pray against it? They would've been correct regardless if it made them look right either way it played out. There was an attempt and the attempt was stopped. If God said it, it's true regardless of how the man looks. Look at the true prophet Jonah. He sure did look some kind of way when his word to Ninevah failed to materialize. And yet God's word was true regardless of how things appeared. This is not an endorsement of Reed. It is also not an indictment. I am not familiar with his prophecies.
Many people saw assassination attemps. It happened before. It can happen again. But you all approach the prophetic words wrong. You can weight in (1 Cor 14) but you don't judge it prematurely. You wait and see (Deuter 18)
Well, think about Jonah. He prophesied against none of them, but they prayed, and God changed his mind. As new covenant people who walk in love, shouldn’t this be our goal?
I love Josh's directness . . . "It's a nothing burger!" A very specific declaration. :)
I can't for the life of me understand how anyone can say Chris Reed is a valid prophet. I listen to him preach and I hear him twists the scriptures time and again, he gets prophesy wrong time and time again.
I'm flabbergasted! I agree with Josh here. He has red flags all over the place. the apostle john in turkey?
Can he even articulate the gospel? Can he exegete a passage of scripture? Can anyone provide me a link?
To me there is no difference between Black, Bruer, Jennifer LeClair and Chris Reed. Chris said he "speaks into" and Jennifer said she "decrees and declares" Maybe the fellas like Chris Reed better because they're his mates or they have more colleagues in common and Jennifer doesn't? I don't know.
You guys are way too lenient in my opinion but that said i do like that you guys do these episodes. I loved when Josh said that the gospel must be preached to defeat the enemy. Excellent. I'm still waiting and hoping the remnant guys do a series on the Lakeland revival. Cant wait!
Keep up the good work.
God Bless
Andrew.
I wasn't expecting to wasn't to watch this entire video, but I appreciated every second. I'm curious about your thoughts on Johnathan Cahn's putting puzzle pieces together from scripture, world events, biblical concepts, etc.
As a Continuationist.....I would Glady spend my time listing to Excellent Cessationist teachers than that Collection Of Mostly False ProFits and Teachers you just Critiqued! Makes me want to listen to Several Hrs. of my NKJV Audio Bible as a Cleansing from all of That Drek!
Chris Rosebrough of TH-cam Fighting For The Faith channel is an excellent teacher, critic of false prophets. He's testified of miraculous healings he's seen and so is not completely against "the gifts." He just feels the gospel is enough, and there's no need for signs, miracles, or prophecy, and those who seek them are easy to deceive.
@@nathanwatson1915 Amen! Very Well Stated!
I attended Troy Brewer"s Church for 20 years. He has a great heart, and he is genuine in his faith, but he is prone to flare and hyperbole. His authored books plagiarizes E.W. Bullinger. He does a lot to help people in need. Feeds tens of thousands of people every year, and rescues numbers of children and individuals from human trafficking. I realized a few years ago there were issues with Troy's teaching. It really does breaks my heart.
Show me a perfect pastor.
IF YOU PASTOR A FLOCK, YOU BETTER LEAD THEM
IN SPIRIT AND TRUTH. THE HOLY SPIRIT IS PERFECT. IF YOU ARE BEING LEAD BY THE SPIRIT, YOU WONT HAVE FLAWED TEACHINGS. YOU SHOULD NOT JUST ACCEPT IT. NOR MAKE EXCUSES IR RESPOND WITH, show me a perfect pastor. GET OUT IF THE PULPIT IF YOUR TEACHING ISNT TRUTH.
@414-ForSuch-A-TimeAsThis
1st of all,no need to yell.
2nd. If you think that your teaching will be perfect because you're "led" by the spirit, you're being silly. No one is perfect and we ALL are constantly learning until we die. I wish it were that simple but it isn't. And telling people that they will never be wrong if there led by the spirit is saying we all know when we are being led perfectly at all times. And that kind of thinking does more damage than good. It's just not reality..
@@aaronnunez9870 the better question would be. Once your pastor is shown the better way what does he do?
@414-ForSuch-A-TimeAsThis
Your soul, thus your spirit and heart is reborn once you revile the moments you slip and drift from His will, however we on an individual level wrestle the rebellion in our mind and flesh and it can be frustrating, but do not forget that your will might be in line with His Will, however we remain limited due to our limited perspective, the eventual solution awaits those who passes and goes to truly live with Him, but until our last breath, we wrestle, but no longer do we do so alone.
Josh’s comments on Jennifer LeClairs “prophesy” were spot on. Nothing but the spiritual buzzwords of the day. His suggestion to go preach the gospel instead nailed it!
J LeClaire and her ilk have no standing to preach, they're not familiar with the gospel.
agree 100% - a real no brainer.
Just sad 🤦♀️
Josh you did great! YOU WERE BOLD AND COURAGEOUS I LOVE IT!!!! I come from the same background as you and totally understand your heart and have prayed for the same reform prophetically to come to the church and that jargon is NOT helpful for those struggling trusting true prophecy and the gifts due to misuse, and bad charisma with NO ACCOUNTABILITY!!!! The LORD will bring this “honor culture” non sense down its man idolatry! Which is also sin! Some of these teachers and prophets are equally becoming “Idols” themselves and blindly unknowing it! THE WORLD NEEDS the unadulterated GOSPEL!!!! Just preach the WORD! These remind me of the same book of Jude prophets
I think we need a segment that just scrolls through TH-cam and counts how many videos are a 2024 word of the year is an open door. I scrolled and didn’t even count there were so many.
Funny thing about Chris' prophecies.
I heard the same things!
On Fox News.
Just a note on the guy who kept calling the Hebrew year 5784. We're not in 5784. According to the Bible the new year happens when the barley is aviv or ripe, this happens in the spring. The passover feast is celebrated in the first month of the year.
Rosh hoshannah in the Fall that most call the "Hebrew New Year" is actually the Babylonian new year that the Hebrews adopted whole they were in exile.
Shame you didn’t get to Troy Black. In his channel he has a playlist where he reviews prophetic words of his own that come to pass, which are often very specific and accurate. I love that he never makes the words about events and people the main point, but always points back to the gospel.
Troy is a cunning, false prophet. Go look at the vid he did supporting the obvious false apostle Kathryn Krick. Troy is in it for the views and $$
Amen!!
LeClaire’s message was more an exhortation than a predictive prophecy. Exhortation to recognize the current spiritual battle and unite to pray to defeat the onslaught. Her language and style is her own.
It would be helpful if you would explain what falls under the definition of prophecy.
I was at her church, she dropped little so called discernment that I was Anointing, ( been stalked and harassed by MASON'S and Mafia Catholic Church in my opinion) dropping little discernments that I had blessings and crazy favor ( marriage to the prophet in her church that was a multi millionaire) they played gaslighting games and ended up kicking me out but no real reason, claimed I was trespassing, I came to her for help and her and Vanessa Angelini ( so called prophet) turned my life into a nightmare , I been homeless for 3 years, can't seem to move on with my life ,have a obsession with trying to get back in , please pray for me
Spot on regarding preaching The Gospel!!!
IMO, there are people here and elsewhere that give prophetic words concerning words about political events/people that aren't from God -- they seem more like analysis of news headlines and then an analysis is made but called prophecy.
First time I noticed this was in 1992 when Pat Robertson said on air that God told him that George H W Bush was going to win re-election. But then in November when Bill Clinton won, not a word was said, "Oh, I missed this. I made a mistake."
Chris Reid makes that sort of impression on me -- seems non-authentic to me.
I disagree. I’ve heard Chris Reed say that he will publicly repent if f he is wrong. He strikes me as a humble, genuine servant of God.
Love for you to review Nate Johnston and then some of Global Prophetic Alliance stuff
Chris’ European ‘prophecies’ are just conclusions drawn from the media. I also have ‘predicted’ the same thing yesterday when someone asked me what I thought.
And most of his American “prophecies” everything he said has been and is being discussed in both alt and mainstream media. And a Major earthquake in California has been “prophesied” so many times! I just can’t really believe it but will see if it happens
Watching from Namibia. My question when listening to many of the propbetic words are: Even if the word was accurate, why do we need to have that information? God is not into just giving information about the future for fun. If the word does not directly glorify God by exhorting or warning the church specifically, what is the point of the word?
Also when judging a word that was given we can judge it at a physical level, but also at a spiritual level. I believe our goal should be to practice and be able to discern in the spirit only whether someone is from the Lord or not. We should remember that even satan's people can give prophetic words that will come to pass. Words coming to pass is a good place to start, but it cannot be the only measuring stick we use to prove legitimacy.
Let me share something with you concerning the prophetic
1.NEVER EVER say that Yhwh isn’t into given words for fun , learn who Jesus messiah really is because he has a lot of diverse sides to his personality , he shares words for warning and edification, edification comes
In many forms and
One is
To uplift people and
You definitely can have fun doing that … ministry ain’t all
Stiff and tight necked and mean faces as some personalities
Would like to deem
It because that is the humanistic flesh God is a Spirit with a personality
2. When prophesying extra information like numbers or names etc. the purpose of that is because it increases the faith for one and next if there be unbelievers near by then they who don’t believe will possibly believe because only God himself can know certain unknown things.
So when a vessel of the Messiah is used in accurate information then it is a fruitful thing because it gets believes and unbelievers to increase their faith in God overall …
Also saying
Extra information proves and shows the detail and forensic prophecy of the one who is delivering yhwh word which shows true nature and character and God’s love for the soul and
Their life details which is always good (pay attention to the details) the Holy Spirit is in every detail
Of our life…
3.
Lastly , but NOT least … words manifesting proves a prophet is accurate and real in prophecy , if the person says a false word then you would LABEL them false right ? So if the word is accurate, then it’s safe to say that the word is not false ? Make it make sense bro ?
Lastly I will say that psychics can speak accurate words , but prophecy isn’t just words it’s always accompanied by POWER -
When a prophet release the word is given , but the power upon the word is what changes the situations of a soul’s life…
So
Yes a witch can give a word , but a witch cannot change lives with their words and
That’s the primary difference and measuring stick
For the prophetic totality as you put it …
HERE IS A BONUS FOR YOU:
A true prophet doesn’t even always have to get a word from God to speak a word , sometimes it’s simply
By the word of the prophet and because they are who they are in God , God
Will honor their words just because they are his prophet …
We
Can see this in 1 KINGS 17:1 when the prophet said mother rain or dew will fall upon the planet earth unless it is by whose word ?
It didn’t say God word , the prophet said by my word and my word alone and it came to
Past and
God
Honored the word of his prophet even tho God didn’t speak it
That time …
I
Can go
On and on because I been doing this for a long time and the prophetic or the supernatural isn’t limited or is open for
self
Or
Private interpretation
You just study more and learn more and
Sit at the feet of a good teacher in the prophetic who can shape and groom you so
You won’t misdirect or misjudge yourself
Or others all because
You mag be limited in your understanding of the things of the spirit or
Just may need to study more ion know 🤷♂️ either way not trying to disrespect you , just trying to teach you better shalom
Read what the Bible says about it....and ask Father for desernment....Father will give you a knowing within your being IF the prophecy is true or false.
Over 80% of prophecies are FALSE. Father said so.
Have to be careful. Some people "live off prophecies" and that ought not be.
Bible says despise not prophecies...THAT'S TRUE
PROPHECIES....
BLESSINGS TO YOU.😊
Riddles and dark saying are different than," I think, maybe, its possible that this thing might happen"
Totally agree
Complete nonsense.
Bottom line. Any of these prophecies affect the way we live? If someone is just guessing “I think God is saying…” What are we to do with that?
I make a mental note of it, and live my Christian life as usual.
Eat the meat & spit out the bones!
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
There is so much valuable stuff in here. Love it
That was the comment of the year…..”youll get more direction from God in a fortune cookie”
Perfect description “Nothing burger!!!”
You can tell after the Iowa caucus speech with Trump and Vivek that Haley is 100% not going to be the vp. Maybe Tulsi Gabbard but definitely not Nikki.
Hey guys, huge fan. Just had a question that I’ve been thinking about when it comes to stuff like these prophetic words. When someone is just outright wrong, speaking nonsense that y’all have been calling out, how do we draw the line if they’re truly even Christians? I’m thinking of this because of the Matthew “away from me I never knew you” verse. Thanks!
That's not what you should focus on. It's between them and the Lord. If the prophecy doesn't come to pass, leave it (Deuter 18)
Be ever so fearful and careful to EVER try to determine the salvation of someone. That truly is up to them and the LOrd as @jameslinmd mentioned. Too many Heretick Hunter "Ministries that want to Damn every believer to hell because you don't like their doctrine or they speak in tongues, or believe in all the gifts of the Spirit still on action today. Please forgive me if it seems my tone is too harsh, but I've seen too many people "get hurt" or "deconstruct" due to that type of "discernment".
All these “prophetic words” are a load of nonsense. Fake Christianity..
I like the balance you put in these videos.
Josh, your righteous indignation was refreshing to my soul!!
Hopeful that later this year we have some accuracy but we will see.
As a God fearing man that lives in California with two little toddlers, I hope Chris is wrong.
Me too! Why would we be hopeful that this would come to pass??
Why? If this is the onset of a revival? If you are a Christian you live in God's kingdom. Everything pertaining to you has already been provided by heaven. Don't hope he is wrong , thank God for provision and protection from harm. I pray that not a shingle on my house come lose, that the angels protect my family and I from harm during an earthquake. If there is damage I thank you Father for your supernatural provision to fix what is broken. AMEN....Do not live in fear but make every thought obedient to Christ, He already provided it.
Hey guys, love your channel. Can you review a Nate Johnson word? He releases them all the time.
Love Nate Johnston & his wife!
What camera setup is miller using ?
Lol the first guy is "prophesying" what he sees in the news. All of his "prophetic" words I have heard talked about in the political sphere for the last few months.
Someone please educate me a bit. I just did a study on the Second Great Awakening. There were many charismatic things that took place in that movement. Why does Chris Reed state that the Pentecostal movement started in CA?
This is funny to watch but it's also sad. I'm reading the chat replay as the video goes on and it's brutal. The problem I see is that no one here seems to understand how to discern prophecy. I'm not saying I'm perfect at it but at least I can listen to a lot of people and be able to tell if there's any truth to it.
Scripture has a narrative, if you understand the narrative then understand what may be true and what won't be.
The prediction of an assassination attempt that was mentioned in this video I saw this 4 years ago with Trump. I don't think he will be allowed to win or if he does won't be allowed to stay. Now do I know this for sure? No. I wrote in January 2020 that he would most likely lose the election for violating Leviticus 25:23, 2 Chronicles 6:5-6, and Joel 3:1-2 with his satanically inspired Middle East peace plan.
But even though I was 99% sure he was going to lose that November, I never want to falsely predict something (maybe I just didn't have enough faith or boldness) so I said if he did win I believed he would be assassinated.
Again I don't claim to be a prophet or have a gift to give prophecy, but I have a gift for understanding it. This guy saying it now for this coming election seems like verification of what I believed would happen if Trump won a 2nd term. Only time will tell if it's true but I wouldn't be surprised which also means if it happened I wouldn't be outraged by the event. I would have confirmation that it was the will of the LORD and to act calmly and with peace not out of fear.
Now this might be the only correct thing that person said but because of my experience, I'm paying attention to that.
this isn't political either, I'm not an American, and I'm not always a fan of Trump but that's irrelevant.
Since January 30, 2020, the LORD has been actively dismantling the West including America. An event like that would most likely send the country over the cliff.
I don't believe there are prophets, I believe there are gifts of prophecy, which to me is the discernment of biblical prophecy and sometimes words from the LORD, dreams, and visions to fill in some of the gaps, but they all have to fit the biblical narrative.
What bothers me about these reviews is not that they're right or wrong, but the hosts themselves don't have a clear understanding of the biblical narrative of prophecy. How can you evaluate whether something is true or false, whether it fits within the biblical narrative if you don't understand the biblical narrative to begin with?
Bible prophecy rarely makes sense in advance of the events but makes complete sense after the fact. But the one thing we know is that any prediction won't contradict the biblical narrative.
For example, if someone said that this year will be a year of peace, I would immediately be skeptical of their word from the LORD, because that's not the biblical narrative. Now that doesn't mean everything they say is false but I'm way more skeptical and doubtful they'd get anything correct.
Many ask how does all this glorify Jesus? When you understand the biblical narrative and you get a prophetic word that might give clarity or fill in the holes a bit and it comes to pass your faith will be strengthened and it will point to a better understanding of Eschatology and your faith won't be shaken. The LORD is going to unfold the future His Way, it will come to pass. These things are meant to strengthen our faith when these difficult times come. I find most Christians have poor theology and eschatology and so it's going to be a confusing and frustrating topic because we know there is something there but we can't discern it and others can't communicate it because they might see it, or be given a word but they have little context for it.
I'm not saying I am against these videos but the purpose I see is are people vague of specific? Has any specific prediction come to pass? If so, ok they might be legit.
But what about why they are correct? Why did they predict something and the LORD allow it to happen? Why that prophecy, how does it play into the greater narrative? What are we supposed to glean from it? For example, if an assassination attempt occurs many Americans including Christians would be outraged, but us having been told in advance would let us know it's the LORD's will, He foretold it and allowed it, so we are to be calm, level-headed, prepared just in case. That amongst the chaos our faith has been strengthened and not rattled or shaken. If such an event occurred whatever follows is exactly what the LORD wants and we are to act as ambassadors of Him and not lose our minds.
My encouragement is to get to know the biblical narrative. Understand the 30,000 ft view of Scripture before you try to figure out which is true here and which isn't.
So that as these pieces of the puzzle are given we can discern what to pay attention to and look at them as more of a heads up. But if they come to pass we weren't caught off guard. I look at them as a possible early warning system. I don't follow the person or lift them up on a pedestal, I use their words to see if they are an early warning system so I am not unprepared or knocked off balance.
I hope this helps. Take care.
I really enjoyed your detailed response, and agree with what you said…. I could add a few of my own thoughts from listening to these kids for the first time, but it’s really just what you’re stressing here…. Simply put….. study study study…. The narrative! Ps… I saw your series on eschatology and looking forward to listening.
@@27ajfarrow Thank you. I hope it's a blessing to you. I'd be curious for your feedback. Take care.
48:53 Rowntrees face says it all 😂
That’s a pretty bold claim to say there will be a spiritual awakening in Southern California. I spent a lot of time there and not once did I see a church or anyone even remotely religious. I’ll definitely keep my eye on that one. The earthquake too
I lived in California my whole life. Where I lived churches were alive and well!
The churches in San Diego are quite vibrant.
Romans 5:20
Look into revival history in SoCal! What’s amazing is how dark it still is considering how constantly spiritual awakening has been sparked there.
I think we need to be careful not to dismiss a prophecy just because it doesn't come to pass within a certain timeline remember Isaiah died possibly being labeled a false prophet because it took 400 years before Jesus was born.
Yes but Isaiah actually heard from God. These guys are wrong so often that God cannot be the source
Amen that’s right!
😕I have to admit, I unsubscribed after this one. You guys are constantly complaining that prophecy isn’t accurate enough, and then Chris Reed comes along, and you criticize him for being… too accurate? One of you asked “why” does he prophesy the specific way he does - well, God speaks to him very specifically about everything. Have you not watched his sermons? He pulls people out of the crowd all the time very specifically and God uses it to encourage. His track record is excellent, both as a leader, and as a prophet. God often spoke to Bob Jones as specifically as this, and I was very encouraged to know that God is still speaking about kings and the land, just as he always has.
The Bible says not to despise the gift of prophecy. I’m all for testing the word, but it’s tricky. There can be accurate prophecy with the wrong heart (witchcraft), and words like “The virgin shall conceive and give birth” that take hundreds of years to come true. Sometimes I have had a word as strange as “garden hose” and the other person was undone by it. God works very mysteriously with this one.
My concern is your tone. Love some of your interviews, but in these you sound so critical, you border on arrogance toward the gift of prophecy altogether. Please check your hearts, guys. 🙏🏾
I thought I was actually complimentary of his prophecies.
Chris Reed has an excellent word of knowledge. That does not count as a stamp of approval on his body-wide prophetic gift (Rick often spells out how different personal and corporate prophecy are) and so far his track record on these is far from perfect. It also doesn’t put a stamp of approval on ‘revelatory’ teaching, which has only grown more problematic in terms of his flimsy grasp on theology and his end-time preaching. It just doesn’t have that quality. Nor does it mean a stamp of approval on character like the consistent grandstanding on Paul Cain and his embarrassing role in the Bickle saga that got utterly called out by Joel Richardson.
If you want to know what type of error can come from elevating a man with a good word of knowledge into the position of global teacher and prophet, look no further than the demise of William Branham. I think Chris is young, completely in over his head, catapulted in a position that his maturity, intellect and character can’t possibly support and that he actually means well. I believe, hope and genuinely pray that he can make a good turnaround but he must work hard not to fall into the utterly erroneous ways of his fathers and this will come with large adjustments to his self image and outlook on his ministry. It’s best to stick with what God annoints and gifts you for and not assume all the rest will be blessed under that gift, and take appropriate steps to stay low when God is judging His body for hypocrisy and sin in this corner.
Take it from someone who’s constantly turned down promotion, position and ministry scale when the validity of the prophetic was seen by leaders. It is better to be a servant than a ruler and we must not delude ourselves on which we are trying to be.
@@michaelmiller5024 I will listen to your reply. I admit, the first guy started in negatively and I was fatigued of that tone and turned the episode off. Forgive me, I'll take a listen. Thanks for commenting.
This would be the safest place to see what's being said, without the pressure of influence.
The more outrageously the gifts are abused and ministerial behavior goes off the deep end, the more I grieve and pray for the repentance and restoration of these individuals who fleece God's sheep and grossly try to mislead those of us who are Charismatic or Pentecostal and young, naive lambs. It is important to not mock but pray and to humbly bring correction to those we believe are in error. {Galatians 6:1-5]
The first guy (around the 15 minutes) was just spouting out things he'd read in the news. I could actually post links after links of from news websites and TH-cam channels already discussing the things he said. The man is not a prophet.
Of course he’s not a prophet. This is fake Christianity.
I think this is good for people to get discernment and I myself do get tired of people saying oh there's an eight in it and that means new beginnings etc
You don't discern and judge prematurely. You wait and see (Deuter 18)
Given in the 90’s on Long Island, NY by Reverend Dick Mills “Florida under water, California in the sea, World War Three.”
That is a true word. I have seen this
Why are the future prophecies in the book of Obadiah never discussed?? 🤔
Isn't a conditional prophecy a perfect way to set yourself up to sound like you were "right" no matter what the outcome is?
Brilliant - and spot on!
Except Jonah. God is full of compassion and warns His people to repent, and if they do, He relents.
"Some heard it thunder" etc.
Aren't we missing the point that John who records the prophecy heard it as the voice of God??? Who cares if the bloke next door didn't hear the word that God spoke to you clearly? What bearing does that have on whether you heard it clearly?
This scripture cannot be used to suggest the word of God can be hard to hear clearly when John, the target of the word, literally heard it word for word.
Yea I love these guys, but I didn't agree with Josh's use of Scripture on that point either.
I don't think the prophetic revelation always have a purpose. Sometimes God just want to share because of our relationship with him (Gen 18)
I really like this channel I don't know all your guys's names but it seems like you guys are having decent discernment for sure on scripture specially holding to the gospel and not all the weird mysticism stuff God speed
How many years did it take for Jonah's (true) prophecy to Ninevah come to pass? And does that have any relevance to prophecies of today?
It never came to pass. That's why prophecy is simply the word of the Lord, not the prediction of future events. What these guys are doing is weighing in to see if it is a true prophetic word. To be frank, there is no objective way to discern a prophetic word in advance. That's why the scripture takes a passive stand (Deuter 18)
Lol. Not true. Gid gave them extra time and destroyed the city 40 years later. Jonahs wird came true. @jameslinmd
@@DaltonGrayMusic did you read the entire book of Jonah or simply judging the word based on "history"?
Nineveh, the capital of Assyria, was destroyed in 612 B.C. by the Medes. This was in fulfillment of the prophet Nahum’s prediction that God would completely destroy the city (Nahum 1). A number of factors combine to determine both the date and manner of Nineveh’s destruction.
@@DaltonGrayMusic that may be so. But we're talking about Jonah's prophecy. People have repented and God relented. Nahum's prophecy is a separate matter.
Can someone please just tell people to turn from their idolatry and repent? Put your trust in God and seek Him with all you got. Please, for the love of all that's good, stop trying to predict the future and obey the word He has already given us.
Well in that Word we have Acts 2: 16 But this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:
17 ‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams.
18 And on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days; And they shall prophesy.
19 I will show wonders in heaven above And signs in the earth beneath: Blood and fire and vapor of smoke.
20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord.
21 And it shall come to pass That whoever calls on the name of the Lord Shall be saved.’
Joel 2:28 “And it shall come to pass afterward That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh;
Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your old men shall dream dreams, Your young men shall see visions.
29 And also on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days.
30 “And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth: Blood and fire and pillars of smoke.
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord.
32 And it shall come to pass That whoever calls on the name of the Lord
Shall be saved. For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be deliverance,
As the Lord has said, Among the remnant whom the Lord calls."
So when should we expect this outpouring of the Holy Spirit? "Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord." Do you know when the "Day of the LORD" is?
If you don't then how will you be able to tell genuine outpouring and genuine dreams and visions from false ones? There is a balance. With so many various interpretations of Eschatology, dreams and visions that are confirmed clarify which view is true and which ones are false since there is ONLY 1 way the LORD will unfold the future.
Once Christians see which Eschatological view is correct and how to understand Scripture then that becomes a powerful evangelism tool we have to share the Gospel.
The reason this area is so problematic is that far too many Christians have adopted falsehoods regarding Eschatology and other doctrines. They read Scripture and can't make heads or tails of it. Many have no clue which views are even correct, or whether we should be looking for this outpouring or not. It's sad to watch.
Nothing Burger describes all the so called Prophets. They are psychics that watch the news and make by up the rest.
8But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward [c]us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance
I live for the day when the words "mandate" and "mantle" are retired from the body of Christ. Though I suppose the New Testament does mention them a combined (checks notes) zero times.
Josh, I'm imploring you that for the 2025 show all 3 of you do the show while wearing prayer shawls.
You know this needs to happen. 🥳
well first someone needs to explain to them what a prophecy is because they clearly dont know the difference between prophecy and preaching .
Yeah that would be a lot of fun lol but prophecy policing is probably serious stuff
I’m confused. I keep hearing predictions and prophecies used interchangeably. Are they the same thing, and are these predictions or prophecies and have they have heard from God or not?
Right? Half the “prophets” sound like they’re guessing.
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The people making the predictions are not prophets "Psalm 147:19-20" "Amos 2:11" "Amos 3:7" "Deuteronomy 29:29" "Romans 3:1-2"
No. Prophecies can be predictions but not always because they're either averted or false.
@@James1v1-pf6lodo you just make a statement and quote irrelevant scriptures to confuse the believers? Have you forgotten Jeremiah predicted the fall of Jerusalem and it came to pass? Jeremiah 32. Who gave this misinformation a thumbs up?
@@jameslinmd why do you call them predictions? Multiple times in Jeremiah 32 it says “and the word of the Lord came to me. “That doesn’t sound like a prediction.
Jennifer's prophecy is like a strategy for Zelda, or something. Watchmen partnering with gatekeepers. Sigh.
Would be cool if y’all would revisit the Mike Bickle ihop kc prophetic history again after the fact …😳. Hindsight now knowing what we know, the layers of deception and questions it presents is mind blowing.
You're confusing MB's character integrity with the prophetic words spoken over IHOPKC. To be sure, they did receive prophetic words from others. It's not just MB's own revelation.
Did you forget God use Balaam to prophecize over Israel? Is character a measuring stick of true prophetic word?
@@jameslinmd The fact that God CAN speak through a compromised person doesn't mean you DON"T ever use character as an element of discernment. Especially if he appears to have been using "prophecy" in a manipulative manner.
I asked a similar question on a different video and they are working on it.
@@philipchaisson No. You don't. That's not a criteria to evaluate true prophetic word. A real prophet can give false prophecy and vice versa. It doesn't always have to do with his or her character.
Each prophecy must weight individually. There are many ways to do it. The integrity of the prophet is not a consistent metric.
@jameslinmd if part of that character includes using prophecy in a manipulative manner it does. I'm not saying every prophecy automatically becomes false, I'm saying going back and taking another look with that knowledge in mind is a wise thing to do
Please do some breakdowns of prophecies from Tim Dillon.
Jonah and his countdown in Nineveh. Handwriting on the wall with Daniel. Many have time lines...
If you are in the south, southern cross not northern start. 🤦🏼♀️ I don’t know if I can do this anymore.
At what point does a person's consistent unreliability cause you to disregard future prophecies?
Fake Christianity.
I automatically turn ppl off who preach 7 mountains mandate, decreeing and declaring. This is the WOF and The Passion Bible stuff. I would never listen to this woman. We are all called to be Bereans and Wachmen in the Wall. Please review Amanda Grace. She is always prophecying and my heart is a little troubled by her but she seems to be a woman of God.
Nothing wrong with 7 mountains. It's putting Christians in those positions. You have a problem with that? Do research regarding.
Amanda Grace is nothing but word salad. It’s a thumbs down for me.
I suggest you all scouting through the Bible before weighing in because it is the basis of our belief. There are many beliefs and practices within the charismatic circle not rooted in the Bible. For example, do not decree and declare anything unless God prompted to do so. It's not a formula of spiritual success as you all correctly pointed out.
God does use numbers and designs to convey meaning that transcend time and space. Hebrew 8.
Curry Blake is the head of John G Lake ministries btw
What is the man with the stag head and tattoo's in the background about? I can't read it completely Psalms 42? What is that about and why is it there?
Idk what it. It's super weird and distracting.
Chris Reed prophesied in April 2022. It’s called …. Chris Reed, $50 dollar bill dream from the Lord…. And he stated in it that he believed this dream would unfold in 2022 and 2023. Maybe some of it came to pass. It did have my attention. However. You three, maybe give that video a listen.
Inflation is so high that word definitely came true
But soon the top layer will come true
Been said for years by so many people… nothing new!
Young man you just inserted your own perspective - remove certain words.. I know language matters however we all see through the lenses of our experiences! 😊
38Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the [k]remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”
If the julienne calendar hadn’t been changed it’s still 2023 till April 1 so there’s that - it’s still perhaps within the window of possibility-
If a person ever has the experience of getting or giving even just one genuine, accurate, biblically sound and effective prophetic word that cuts to the heart and is proven to be, or plays out to be, accurate - from that moment on you have a baseline by which you can measure whether or not someone else is really speaking a word from God.
Meaning...if you have experienced the real thing, there is a quality difference between that and a lot of what folks try to pass off. Or when someone is mixing his own stuff with what might be coming from God.
Maybe if someone gives or receives a few hundred words of knowledge one of them is gonna shine gold-like. The others will be fool's gold or turds.
@nathanwatson1915 That's not how hearing from God works. It takes time to learn to hear from Him. But when He speaks, its always correct as it is God.
@@DaltonGrayMusic I'm not saying God can't speak, I'm saying that a person who dishes out "words from the Lord" like candy on Halloween is gonna randomly get one right here and there, but it ain't God speaking.
@nathanwatson1915 I haven't seen Chrix get ant wrong. The Bible says a Prophet if God is wholly accurate.
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None of these clowns are bone fide prophets. Good grief.
....the questions should be asked, whats the point, and who gets the glory? The lord usually sends a warning when he tells of future events, for people to prepare or repent. Joseph and the famine, for example.
Grateful for some Godly and sane perspective in the hyper charismatic movement.
Chris Reed is literally repeating Kim Clement prophecies…
I read Deuteronomy 32:25, it is what he is saying….??
I love Troy Brewer.
2023 was the year of Psalm 23 and 2024 is the year of Psalm 24. Does that mean 1823, 1723 and 1623 wee also the year of Psalm 23?
This is nonsense.
Exactly what I was thinking on Brewer’s tact, this falls on its face when you isolate ‘24’ to desperately try and make up meaning, that number has come and gone 20 times since Christs coming, was it about end times every time? 😂😂😂
@@christianwoudenberg3393 What is even more astonishing is the fact that we are not even in the year 5784 as everyone believes. If you take the common date for creation as 4004 BC and add 2024 you get the Jewish year 6028. So everyone who is trying to determine what God is doing based on the year are 244 years behind. lol, lol, lol So if God is doing things based on the calendar year what everyone thinks he is doing he did in 1780. lol
Why Remnant Radio dun review Christian International’s Word of the Lord, they do it every year
What happened to Troy Black? That’s the very reason I watched this episode as I see his face in my feed constantly.
@tanyajedking oh thank you. He shows up all the time in my TH-cam feed, and his face is starting to really annoy me and then I feel bad lol.
Love Troy Black!
He’s actually legit, a rare prophetic gem. He has a playlist of specific fulfilled words he gave and revisits as they come to pass.
@@connerdill9940 thank you
@@tagladyify To cite an example, he prophesied a few weeks prior that it happening that it would be the queen's last year on earth. To my knowledge, this was not in the news a few weeks prior that she was even hospitalized, especially in that she died of old age. This was also towards the end of the year, which meant there was little wiggle room for it. I'm not sure how this could have been something he heard in the news prior. Yes she was old, but for anyone else knew, it could have been the following year or the following five years. A few months time frame to get it right is pretty remarkable in my opinion.
I love what you guys do. As someone who grew up in the charismatic movement and spend 4 years in the Brownsville revival I see a LOT of abuse with the prophetic.
To be honest I know of few who actually truly walk in it.
However, with this video I want to breakdown each person with you.
Chris Reed isn’t saying anything that a person paying attention to geopolitics couldn’t say. His “prophetic” word and “impressions” are nothing more than someone who’s aware of the current geo political environment and can read what’s going on.
None of what he said is prophetic. Unless I am prophetic too because I could have told you the same things.
My problem with a lot of what Chris says is that it’s the same “word” just repackaged for 2024. Or whatever year it is.
To pretend that this is the Word of the Lord is wicked and wrong.
This first prophet feels more like an opinion of what could happen based on educated guesses and not a clear and certain word from the Lord.
"Every year is the year of don't murder."
why is "word of faith" wrong? and what's wrong with the "7 mountains" thing I've never heard of it before but you've referenced it and in my quick research all I saw was these 7 areas God wants Christians to influence those 7 areas because those 7 areas controls or influences most peoples lives.
These are the predictions from Craig Hamilton. Almost word for word. He’s an English psychic. He’s been saying this since last year so hopefully he’s not “borrowing” from Craig Hamilton
Chris is legit. I went to one of his services back in 2021. After service we spoke. He made me aware of a hurricane that would hit the Tampa/ st Pete area. Told me to pray into it. Wasn’t sure if it was 2021 or 2022. We’ll my power went out for 7 days. Because of his word I bought a generator when i heard the hurricane was coming. That one was on point.
Thanks for sharing that!
There's literally a hurricane season that hits states in the gulf every year. Anyone could predict that
Maranatha
Are number s prophetic. I started having dreams in 2022 while my husband seeing repeated numbers. I also start seeing numbers it’s hard to know exactly what they mean. There are so nan verses in bible, so how do you know which one to apply
You pray and let God speak to you.
You guys should look into Troy Brewers ministry before you dismiss the man. He has saved insane amounts of kids from sex trafficking for the last decades, and is still faithfully doing that. Yes he loves his numbers but look at the fruit of his ministry before you dismiss him.
Agree. He is doing a lot of good works and loves Jesus. However, he loses some credibility with the numbers thing.
Some are just flat wrong.
"Watchful" is found 24 times in the Bible?
What version is he reading from?
The most I could find after searching from numerous versions in the Bible is only 6 verses.
Why was the guy with the beard and glasses looking at the 84th verse of the bible and stuff? I didn't get where he got the numbers from, was that a hebrew calendar thing?
ALOT OF PEOPLE ARE SEEING THE NUMBERS.
I agree that any Political Prophesies should be specific and demonstrate that God is in control. Otherwise, it's just another round of rinse and repeat, same old , same old nothing demonstrating God is not in control?
Where are ALL the false prophets at that we were warned about? There will be many. Where are they?
Revelation and “trending” are two different things. At its heart, prophecy is a revelation from the Lord by His Spirit, not picking up on something natural.
Troy has an awesome gift of exhortation in his preaching. Uniquely gifted in exhortation.
Why does Troy keep implying that he is a Prophet?
God Bless all you guys for these discussions. So right on. I am so gladyou reject the insanity of 7-mountain dominionism. What a load of fleshly garbage. As well as decreeing & declaring; so often misused. When and where is your podcast?
Mondays & Wednesdays at 4 p.m. CDT/CST on TH-cam
What is it with the motor mouth persona and delivery of each of these false prophets? To me, that's a dead giveaway right off the bat to steer clear.
Yeah Miller, subscribe.
Great show! Love you guys judging these things so carefully and graciously. The body of Christ is very much in need of this type of example and instruction.
I did notice something, though. You were saying Chris Reed prophesied Nikki Haley would be Trump's running mate. He did not. He said for a couple of years he's prophesied a woman of color would be Trump's running mate. He then said his personal opinion was it would be Nikki Hailey. He was quite careful to differentiate the two. Still, quite a testable prophesy. The only real prophesy of the group. Very sad.
You stated Troy brewer should stop divination and witchcraft. Maybe Troy Brewer needs to really get saved??
"You're not a prophet if chatGPT beats you."
I think these wrong practices could stem from something like the wave of the okkult in the 20. century over pretty much every breach of sciene including theologie and religious studies. A book highly suspicous on the number aspect could be: numbers and time from Franz M. L