Taking our '69 Camaro into the Modern Era - Detroit Muscle S7, E12
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- NEW 2020 episode! We take our '69 Camaro and upgrade the suspension, brakes, and tires to give it better handling and performance on the street.
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PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE
RockAuto.com
Bilstein B12 Pro Kit
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Summit Racing
5-spoke Weld RTS Wheels
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Summit Racing
Brake kit
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General Tire
Continental Extreme Contact Sport Tire
Heidt's Hot Rod Shop
4-link suspension kit
Heidt's Hot Rod Shop
Pro-G sub-frame suspension
Matco Tools
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Sea Foam
Sea Foam High Mileage
The Industrial Depot
Tools, Hardware, Shop Supplies
My dad always says a car should stop before it goes. Being able to stop faster is always a good thing. It might even keep you from wrecking your ride you know? 👍
Holy crap! They got Mark acknowledging the TH-cam audience. Smart move.
Say hi to Tom for me Tim
I remember the Camaro this vintage when New. Love the work you fellas do. :)
A 427 crate motor would be nice....
So how fast is that Seafoam graphic coming off if you all win? As soon as it's home for me. 🤣
the forged hubcaps too,or at lest they are getting painted solid black to do way with the branding
Preferably before it leaves the studio.
They want too much personal information just to enter. In these days of identity theft, I don’t want my name, address, birthdate and phone number floating around in the Ethernet.
I would keep it on, I like Seafoam especially the intake spray I use it on my vehicles every other oil change.
You didn't read the fine print...it says that in order for you to keep the vehicle, that stuff need to stay on as part of their advertisement.
It's great to see that they have 2000 watt 6 bye 9's in the back deck with high power speaker cables! Yeah!
When I was a kid, my neighbor had a 69 Z28, 4 speed and a DZ302. It was this crazy orange with white stripes. To this day my favorite car ever!
I had the chance to by a '69 Z28 as my first car in 1988. It was $5000 and looked great. Had the cash but my Dad said no. He said it'd kill me and the insurance would be too high. :-(
@@JerryDLTN When I got my license at 16, my friends brother was selling a Red Cutlass convertible with a 455 and 4 spd. My dad took a look under the hood and said "No fkn way"😂 So I feel your pain but my father was right, I was all balls and no brains back then 😜
Jerry Lifsey My dad did the same thing back in 78 when I looked at a 70 Boss 302 Mustang, and a 69 Z28...guess the old guys knew. I settled for a 73 Type LT RS Camaro...I finally got a 69 RS/SS with a ZL2 hood when I was 33. Didn’t need the old mans permission then. LOL!
This should be a square setup for better handling
Staggered is more for looks or to create more understeer or for mid engine cars
Some people turn their nose up at restomods. I personally love them. I think it's great to see these vehicles surviving and driving as a daily again. I wish I still had my 1971 Pontiac T-37. I would throw an LS in it and put modern underpinnings in it in a heartbeat. I would probably drive it every day again. Now if it was an early 69 Trans Am....... You BETTER restore that mutha funka back to original. There are some rides that need to be preserved.
Depends if that 69 trans am have all the original parts left in it. If it's just a shell, by all means cut away and stuff a modern drivetrain and suspension.
you are like wizards. cheers from Brasil!
Any kind of motor for me, I'm walkin' 😂...
Shoulda put an all aluminum 427 with fi in that Camaro. That would have kept me tuned in.
Why not add sub-frame connectors as well . . while you were at it?
I was thinking the same thing!
All that nice suspension only to put that disappointing engine back in it.
@@squidusn71 If they had put an LS in it, 90 percent of the comments would be crying about another LS. You can't please anyone anymore.
Enter to win the car, and add some after you win it. Not that hard to do, and the rest is already in place.
@@tommyfrombama4834 Exactly!
Wow that’s a wonderful setup ... but I love the old school look but gonnna have new school ride comfort
Why on earth would you butcher this classic with those ugly graphics? Seriously guys? You're better than this.
Love powernation!
Maaaaaan, could you imagine Tommy as a shop instructor...OMFG
"1950s technology." Well, not exactly. Still, when you consider the leaps and bounds that Chevrolet made with the tri-5 designs in the mid 50s, that is not too bad.
Also, the fitting headers point is true, but the rack and pinion being so superior is bs. If you've ever felt one freeze-up at speed......
Go is NOT as important as WHOA!!! 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
yes sir = i always do brakes , suspension , steering - then go faster bits !
no doubt some of the best videos out there!!!! one thing I would love to see,as an industrial supply sales rep for 15 yrs.i always am quick to observe the final details on most things.i wish u guys would use all domestic grade 8 fasteners on all assemblies.just a suggestion,keep up the great work.ya’ll keep me entertained on 12 hr shifts in South Korea,thank u and God bless ur channel👍
The side fender stripes look really dumb. You guys killed a real nice Camaro. There’s plenty of cars out there that you could of butchered the hell out of, besides this one.
Great video Cant wait to see more
2:08 mark: Tommy asks, what's that firing order?? Mark, uh 1, 2, 6, 9, 4, 7 ,3. o_0 hmmm we've lost cylinders 5 and 8, but gained a 9th cylinder... >_
When you're doing a project this extensive, you really should weld those supports in rather than just bolting them. Save that for the car that's already done and just adding them after.
I definitely would. Unless of course you're planning on being able to return everything back to stock. Some people like to have that option
I would have used grade 8 nuts, bolts and washers on the rear suspension.
It's crazy to think that one of us is going to own that car.
If you want precise handling go buy a new Camaro. Why hack this classic up with all that front end nonsense. You should have just cleaned and painted, replace joints, fast ratio steering box, Bilstein shocks and add some urethane bushings and call it a day...
excellent video and very good parts used... I learn some stuff here!
The wheels though, in my opinion, this Camaro needed something more retro looking!
Gosh I would do anything to win this car. Literally anything. And I MEAN ANYTHING. I’ve tried to enter but I can’t afford to buy entries.
Your lying. You don't have to buy in. This is a real giveaway.
Gearhead 6971 o I thought you had to donate money to buy entries like all the other giveaways I see. So how do I enter then.
@@coryjohnson6548 Just go to the website. FYI: every single giveaway in the US has a way to enter without purchasing or donating. They legally have to provide a no-payment entry option to keep it from being a lottery/gambling.
1:59 I’m sorry my sentimental value motor, but it’s time for you to go.
Man, that's some really nice modern, high tech going into her. I like that stuff. Whole lot better systems besides the wagon wheels, it retains the stock look.
Does that guy need to have so many pens in his pocket?
I love this car, even before all the upgrades. But now, it's a perfect cruiser.
Heidt's suspension is a great company and I've been to their fall open house car show a few times and they have a impressive facility with some quality suspension products. Their subframes, rear suspension options, along with their independent rear suspension sets ups are works of art. This Camaro should handle great and that updated subframe is something I wanted to do on mine, but just couldn't swing. Rest Mods can be murder on the budget.
Beautiful!!!
Beautiful car, I would love to have it.
Would've made more sense to install the motor and transmission in the front crossmember assembly then install it as a complete unit to the chassis.
Yeah, I was scratching my head on that one. That's how they took it out. I guess they were still waiting on the engine and wanted to get to work while waiting.
6 bolts and it is back out.
I've been watching this Chanel for so long and I haven't disliked any of the episodes this would have to be my favorite Chanel on TH-cam because I can watch and love watching, and also learn a lot
Add frame connectors, toss the crap in the tube and get a Lube locker gasket. Why not clean the inner floor up before bolting those brackets in? Clean, prine and paint it first.
Was watching an older episode of Muscle car and was wondering if it was just me or did Tommy have much better Chemistry with Rick then he does with Marc? Those episodes felt like 2 dudes building a car and having a blast doing it. This feels like 2 coworkers building a car to me, still fun to watch but not the same :) . Of course I've been known to be wrong before :)
rcandminilover yeah tommy has a good TV personality and is a hell of a fabricator. Marc doesn’t have as good a presence. Of course the master is and will always he Lou :)
If only we in Australia could enter to win this car i would gladly pay the shipping costs
this is what people have to watch when they didn't have a real father! PS- I barely taught my kids any of this...
I notice you didn't use or want air suspension. Is there a major price, performance, or weight difference when you go to air?
Wheels made it pop out nice 🙌
I could really use a 69 Camaro, if you need to throw one my way.
Ist time watching you guys kept my attention very hard to do give you guys props
I'm going to be one P O'ed caucasian if I don't win this car!
Lol what does caucasian have to do with being pissed, just chill
Entitled maybe human person.
@@doodlebug6833 ok Karen
@@bilbobaggins4710 lol resorting to name calling i see, classic internet keyboard warrior. I just said chill, i didnt want him to ask for the shops manager(if you know mechanics shops you know tha joke) but seriously mike, you need to chill too
That car is going to be so great! Really like the engine concept. Not over the top which would be so easy to do.
Can these guys quit adding useless dialogue about what they are doing. They know what they are trying to do when lifting engines, etc. I annoys to hell out of me when they say @1:22. NO SHIT SHERLOCK!
QUIT ACTING YOU CHUCKLEHEADS!
Ton of Chedder bolted on that car.
All looks good except the rims.. don't care for them rims personally.. but that's just butthole, everybody's got one.
Sick
The one thing about shows like this that I hate is they show all these neat parts and what they can do for your project car but never list the parts and the MSRP cost.
That’s because they’re stupid expensive. Probably bolted on 30k worth of parts.
THE front subframe delivered to my doorstep was $6,000. The brake setup is close to $2,000. The wheels and tires are $4,000. That's all my car has in common with this car. I have the LS 6.2 t56 in mine that I built myself. I haven't set down and added it up but it's around 20K.
Google it. Everyone has a different budget in mind, these builds provide examples of things that are available and what's involved. Everyone may not have the funds to use these exact parts, but could use some ingenuity and creativeness to accomplish something similar without all the fancy, expensive bolt ons. This shouldn't be looked at as some sort of recipe to build a car piece by piece, IMO. It should be seen as an example of things that are available if you have the money, but also showing you areas that you can modernize as your budget allows to bring an older car to more modern standards. I hope that makes sense, not always the best at putting my thoughts into words.
Tommy from Bama what I commented on is how much these things cost,not people’s individual budget. The people that make these videos throw all these parts on their projects without commenting on cost,it would be nice to know what this all costs.
@@fw1421 I knew what you meant. I just feel like that may be the reason why they don't put prices on everything, but that's just my opinion. Who knows? I'm the sub frames, brakes, and suspension on this build were quite expensive. If I were planning a similar build, I would look around for my best price on the parts or see what similar parts from other companies may cost.
Another damn giveaway that isn't available to all TH-cam viewers yet posted on a platform that's global.
Put a disclaimer at the beginning, or only make the vid available to US viewers, or make the giveaway available globally; suit yourself, but at the very least come clean from the get go if the giveaway isn't available outside the US so we can choose to switch off.
Really pisses me off this sort of thing and I'm not alone.
Grade 5 Bolts???? hope they're for mock up only as i wouldn't trust them on a hard launch or curve in the road JS pretty stuff btw
I subscribed because he threatened to call my mother!!!!
She'll whoop my ass! And I'm 45.
Wouldnt it be nice and honest to note the price of these parts instead of just letting folks guess? I always thought if you arent ashamed of the price you would mention it.....apparently this stuff is overpriced and they are ashamed to tell it.
Great episode, but surprised they are using those cheap low strength bolts grade 5 when grade 8 are so common and much better quality.
could you share some tips to pass emission test ondiesel cars....
Looks like a complete Ford nine inch rearend to me but, I wonder why Tommy didn't just say, "Ford 9 inch" ?
I can't even sign up for this contest cuz I live in Canada... And I use Seafoam in everything I drive. Not fair!
Yes. But life is sometimes not fair.
@@bmstylee there are other advantages to living in Canada that I should focus on.
$9 million dollars later. Love this stuff, but it sure ain't cheap...
Everything i have ever purchased from rockauto failed miserably. Not a fan.
Stripes on the side are vomit inducing. Very first thing I would change if it became mine
$6200 subframe replacement. Damn that's pretty. Little out of the budget for my build, lol.
Wow they're that much uh? I was thinking probably a couple grand when they showed and explained it. Man was I off. Yeah, I'd be rolling stock too then haha.
More than my last complete build of a car...lol
@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism there are quite a few things one can do to the stock subframe to make it work really well, like the ride tech tru turn or rack and pinion, upgraded steering boxes, tubular control arms (tho they weigh more) and you can always put a bigger sway bar
That subframe is seriously so cool
Why didn't they just wait to put the motor in sub-frame before putting it back up in the body?
Like this
So much trouble to get a '69Camaro to handle like my stock as Hell '60 long, wide bed Apache 10 pickup...sheesh...Chevy sure dropped the ball on the Camaro.
Not a fan of taking a original car and changing all suspension and motor..worth top dollar original condition
Every time I watch TV hotrod shows they build $140,000 cars in an industrial building, with a lift. IDEA: rent a 2 car garage and lay on the floor like the rest of us and show how it's done at home, on a tight budget.
I like this show, and Tommy is a good host...but the other guy is annoying as hell.
Why didn’t you guys add subframe connectors ?
Anyone know the Wheel/Tire Backspace/Offset? 20s are a bit much for me, but a set of 18s would like darn nice. Thanks in advance.
Never apply silicon or silicon/gasket before installing the crown and pinion gear set. You may disturb or smudge the silicon, necessitating touching up or redoing your work. Work systematically, in other words in an orderly manor.Great video, and keep up the good work.
LOL LOL ( It'll all fall out from under you LOL HE AINT LIENG )
Where I can get the kit for the same camaro, can you s3nd me a link thank you
Tommy and Marc have a loose style that doesn't feel like they're trying to follow a script. And there's nothing "more better" than hearing Tommy butcher the English language.
does anyone know who won the drawing for the 1969 Sea Foam Camaro?
Would that set up work good on my 69 firebird with a ls3 superchared engine???.and may i say beautiful set up and ride....
The 5 spokes, in my opinion, are outdated and have been for a few years. I would have gone with a snowflake style rim. That's just what I like.
Look at us it only takes 4 hrs to completely restore a classic car with unlimited money.....😂😂 Beautiful car though!
Could of at least put those stripes on straighter. Looks amature....
And, it looked better with the stock wheels.
That black hood just doesn’t look right along with the dual side hockey stripes. You’ve ruined it and created a clown car.
You should have went with a Flaming River quick ratio manual rack on that. Could have put in an IRS as well.
good lookin car, shop , parts. $$$$$$
first car was a grand dad ride.love my 69 no doubt,would be great to see some one rebuild a original,you know they weren't that bad in the day guys,just took a driver to handle um on friday nights hahah.i know you have sponsers to make happy but a original restore would be great .
buy the way the chicks dug them 69's best lol
It's a shame they ruined a perfectly good original Camaro. You don't find original ones very often any more.
Can't believe they are using Grade 5 hardware !!
XING Mobility has an EV kit in a '69 Camaro. Can you do an EV kit in a '80 Corvette?
I appreciate that they talk about the Hemi at 4:26, but stock 6.2? It's 6.1 guys. The Hellcat is 6.2L
it would be cool to see if you could turbo a volvo b230 redblock and take out crazy hp numbers
Can you put the link to Heidst front and rear suspension kits
You guys are something else...I would work in this shop for minimum wage...)
Do they have this complete series on TH-cam?
Tommy... sorry pal.. your English is shocking.
Don't call my mom, its not a corvette so she wont care.
Is it possible to make 1000hp with a 383 SBC with a stock block?
Is there a company that makes these Sub Frame Kits for a 1970 Cuda ?
That car looks like his name should be Slickback
Powernation, you guys should do an engine build off against Gas Monkey Garage.