REPLY To Engineer On HAZRAT MOAVIAH رضی اللہ عنہ (By Javed Ahmad Ghamidi)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2022
- GHAMIDI VIDEO#1 bit.ly/3E6zIa7
GHAMIDI VIDEO#2 bit.ly/3Ea0UF4
GHAMIDI's Mentioned Playlist: bit.ly/3Sv6ZA1
Engineer's Statement: bit.ly/3Suh9B3
3 Groups of SAHABA
Engineer's Video: bit.ly/3dTi3Il
Ghamidi's Video: bit.ly/3BZGaNp
🔵 NOTE:
A true student is one who does critical analysis but by due merits of criticism, unfortunately Javed Ahmad Ghamidi Sahib is foremost victim of this attitude. People Unconsciously do start criticizing the results before understanding reasoning behind that. Here are playlists on those objections ignorant people put against Javed Ahmad Ghamidi.
🔵 RESPONSE TO 23 QUESTIONS:
◽ Meezan Aur Furqan: • Response to 23 Questio...
◽ What is Sunnah: • Response to 23 Questio...
◽ Itmam e Hujjat: • Response to 23 Questio...
◽ Qiraat Ka Ikhtelaf: • Response to 23 Questio...
◽ Excommunication (Takfeer): • Response to 23 Questio...
◽ Singing & Music: • Response to 23 Questio...
◽ Veil (Pardah): • Response to 23 Questio...
◽ Beard (Darhi): • Response to 23 Questio...
◽ First Revelation: • Response to 23 Questio...
◽ Halal & Forbidden: • Response to 23 Questio...
◽ Splitting of the Moon: • Response to 23 Questio...
◽ Isra-o-Mairaaj: • Response to 23 Questio...
◽ Return of Jesus: • Response to 23 Questio...
◽ Arrival of Mahdi: • Response to 23 Questio...
◽ Interest / Usury (Sood): • Response to 23 Questio...
◽ Human Nature: • Response to 23 Questio...
◽ Jannat Ki Hoor: • Response to 23 Questio...
🔵 OTHER TOPICS:
◽ Introduction to Quran: • QURAN Ka TAARUF - Intr...
◽ Hujjiyat-e-Hadith: • Hujjiyat e Hadith - Ja...
◽ Dawat Ka Tariqah: • DAWAT E DEEN SERIES
◽ Ahl-e-Sunnat Ke Aqaid: • عقائد سیریز | Aqaid Se...
◽ ALI (r.a) aur Muawiya (r.a): • Hazrat Ali (ra) aur Am...
◽ Foj Ka Bayaniah: • Fouj Ka Bayania
◽ Mishkat Dars on Ramzan: • Nabi Ki Batain - Yasal...
◽ Dallas Lectures: • Dallas Lectures - Coun...
◽ Conversing Islam: • Conversing Islam with ...
◽ Meezan Lectures: www.youtube.com/@GhamidiCIL/p...
◽ Al-Bayan Lectures: www.youtube.com/@GhamidiCIL/p...
Jāvēd Ahmed Ghāmidī (Urdu: جاوید احمد غامدی) (born April 7, 1952) is a Pakistani Muslim theologian, Quran scholar, Islamic modernist, exegete and educationist. He is also the founding President of Al-Mawrid Institute of Islamic Sciences.
Ghamidi's conclusions and understanding of Islam, including the Sharia, has been presented concisely in his book Mizan with the intention of presenting the religion in its pure shape, cleansed from tasawwuf, qalam, fiqh, all philosophies and any other contaminants.
◽ He on Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javed_A...
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#HazratMuaviah #Ghamidi #EngineerMuhammadAliMirza
Assalamualaikum!
This Video Was Uploaded on My Channel And i was Hosting This Stream (The Boy in Brown) , The Moment He said Those Bad Words To Ustaz Ghamidi I Disagreed With Him instantly And To Show This I Gave A Gesture Of Taking Myself Out Of The Screen ... Right Now I don't Own This Statement Of Ali Bhai And All The Words He Said About Javed Ahmad Ghamidi Sahab.
Alhamdulillah.
Walekum assalam" may Allah guide you and bless you 😊
Har urooj ko zawal mery bhai.... Ali ka zawal bohat jald agaya hai.
The Boy In Brown 😎
تم کون سے مسلمان ھو۔ جو معاویہ کے ساتھ رضی اللہ عنہ لکھتے یا بولتے ھو۔ پھر کنیت ابو حسین بھی رکھو۔
Mai to Hindu hun par fir bhi Ghamidi Saab ke liye aise alfas nahi istemal karunga.
Maine Ghamidi Saab se Islam ke ethics and values ke baare me bahut kuch sikha hai...he is very polite, lenient and a thorough gentalman.
Unhi ke alfas me agar kahu to nukta e nazar me ikhtilaf ho sakta hai par shaistagi se baat rakh ni zaruri hai (pardon my Urdu)
Masha allah 😄 !
Allah jahan chahe wahan charag rotion ho jate hain..mumkin nhin har shaks apne hisse ka andhera liye ghume..
Beautiful my brother
We welcome yu to islam ❤️
Ap ki Urdu bht Achi ha bhai
مذھبی نظریات سے قطع نظر غامدی صاحب سے میں نے گفتگو کا فن سیکھا ہے جو ہر موقع پر استعمال کرتا ہوں جس سے گھر سے لے کر محافل تک سکون اور اطمینان نصیب ہوا ہے۔ اللہ پاک استاد محترم کو ہمیشہ صحت مند رکھے آمین
Dear you are 100% right.....
After listening to Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza for more than a year, I have come to conclusion that Ghamidi is way ahead in knowledge and practical Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad SWW.
If you ask yourself, which kind of behavior was preached by Muhammad SWW, given two option. 1 Ghmidi, 2 Muhammad Ali Mirza.
I’m pretty sure you know the answer. But also salute to all eforts by Muhammad Ali Mirza for opening my mind from firqawariyat.
Nasibi insaan yeh ghamidi hazrat Ali ka dushman Hy yeh aqal kholo na engnr ki suno na iski khud study kro...wrna yeh log gumrah krdengy..
@@usmangee4943 kahan uss ne dushmani ki?
Engineer is Jhelumi Paindo and is fit for those people, intellectuals don't listen to him as his concepts are too weak...
bilkul ghamdi sahb logic p bat krty hain aur mirza sahb intehaei jahil qism k molvi hain naak ki seidh p chulny waly. mirza sahb ki strategy yhi h barhy logo p tankid kr k apna qudd oncha krna
Hazrat ye to dekho ke ghamidi sahb ka nazrya kis se coincide kar raha hai…..kb se tariq masood sahb or degar ulma aap ko smjha rahe the….lekin aap to engineer ke chele bne hui the….haq to zahir hokar hi rehta hai….smjhdari phir isme hai ke use tasleem krke ahle haq ka saat diya jai….lekin afsoos ke sath agar phir bhi apna mizaj tabdeel na kiya jai or pehle ki tarah phir bhi ahle haq ko shab o satam kaha jai to phir ye banda maa ke pet se badbakht paida howa hai
Engr Muhammad Ali Mirza is not a scholar and he is emotionally charged person, using foul / abusive language against anyone who does not fit in his frame of mind. His mentality is just like a traditional 'moulvi' . May Allah SWT guide him towards true path.
Or apka apny movli k bary kya khial hy
What an educated humble civilised knowledgeable person Ghamdi sahib. May Allah protect you from all haters. May Allah keep increasing your knowledge to enlighten us. Lots of love and prayers
يہ جاہل متکبر فتنہ انجينر اپنی فيور ميں جعلی کلپ چلوا کر اور اپنی جے جے کار کرواتا ہے اور بڑا خوش ہوتا ہے اس فتبے کا غامدی سے کيا موازنہ ؟
Ameer e sham k pas kaise 2sra option nahi tha?? Kaise maluqiyat aur anarchy thi?? Khilafat kaise option nahi thi?? Zara mujay aaga kren mehrbani
ماشاءاللہ غامدی صاحب میں انجینئرز محمد علی مرزا کا مداح ہوں لگتا ہے انجینئرز کے اندر سے کٹر ملاء برآمد ہو رہا ہے اور اس نے ہذیان بکنا شروع کر دیا ہے
eng jahil b hy or munafiq b
Ghamdi sahab has been a light that brought me back to Islam. I have always been sick and tired of molvies who have no manners to talk. The idea that we can not converse patiently without judgment.
Mr Ali you can never reach the level of my teacher (ghamdi sahib).
Thank you.
Engr. M A Mirza is a fake personality.
Very right
بہترین تجزیہ، اگرچہ 100 فیصد اتفاق نہیں اس نظریے سے لیکن جس طریق سے استدلال ترتیب دیے ہیں غامدی صاحب نے ایسا طریق بڑے سے بڑے مفتی میں نہیں دیکھا
Engineer Mirza had some respect and credibility till now After watching his behaviour and comments towards Ustaad I am just speechless !!
Engineer has lost all his ranks as a scholar or Alim !!
Same here
True
غامدی اھلبیت کے حقوق کے معاملے میں غافل رھا اس لیے اس کا علم محدود اور ایک بند گلی میں کھڑی دیوار میں دھنسی ہوئے اینٹ کی مانند ہی ہے اور کچھ نہیں ۔تبھی ملک سے دور دربدر رہا۔ وہ صرف وڈیوز اور کلپس کی وجہہ سے ایک سطحی معلومات رکھے والون کو متاثر کرسکتا ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔ وسلام ۔
Same here
Xd narum alfaz ma gali deny sy gali sahiii nai ho jati
Jo shaks khulfa rashid sy zyaadh muavia ko ehsan kahey unka Allah he hafiz hy..
Ager wou claim kr rha h ehsan ha tou daleel do!! Authentic
بہت ہی افسوس ہوا کہ علی بھائی کا طرزِ عمل بھی روائتی علماء حضرات کی طرح ہوتا جا رہا ہے۔
Yes brother
I m vry disappointed 😞
I agree with you brother kindly tell ghamdi sahib stop telling his own logic and philosophy he has totally ignored hadith part regarding Ameer shaam ...he just trying to understand situation on the basis of his own history and philosophy books he has kept behind....
Wo pehle bhi miraasi thaa or aaj khul ke bata dia ke uskay baap daada BHAAND MIRAASI lazmi hongay. Mirasi da munda engineer te ban gaya magar INSAN na ban saka......TUKHAM ki Kharabi
Bhai saab engineer jahil e azam hai
@@smartservices422 your ali is mad man. If he has guts come directly to discussion.
Ghamidi sahab is a true scholar he explain the facts as well as no one in this era
We have once again learned The value of arguments. We have learned how to continue to behave consistently, even if we differ.
The language of the Engineer sahib, who thinks he is Molvi, just shows what kind of knowledge he holds and how much he follows Prophet Muhammad PBUH and Khulfa e Rashideen!
Ghamidi Sb is out and out class from other Scholars. God Bless him.
Very nicely replied. I request to Engr sb to listen the Ghamdi sb more than one time so that he can understand it. By throwing atom bomb it means that you have no counter arguments and there is no room for dialogue.
Oh my God he just never fails to gain my respect impress me and bring me close to Islam realizing that Islam promotes logic reason and facts based theory…
How come? Anarchy hoti hi na agar kisi sahabi ko khalifa namzad kr dete
Ya Allah ghamidi sahab ko itni umer de ki wo hame aur accha musalman banne me hamari madat kare... Kyu ki jab se unhe suna bas accha musalman kesa hota ye malum hua...
Itni umer day k deen hi badal dalay...
Itni Umar dey k khud bh nanga bhage hashar m tujhy bh nanga kry nasibi saly
اللّہ تعالی غامدی صاحب کو لمبی عمر اور صحت دے تاکہ آپ خلق خدا کی رہنمائی کتاب و سنت کی روشنی میں جاری رکھ سکیں۔آمین
Ameen, sum Ameen
الله استاد محترم کی حفاظت فرمائے۔ اللہ رب العزت ان کی عمر میں برکت عطا فرمائے۔
غامدی صاحب کی باتوں سمجھے کے لیے انسان کو علم کے ساتھ ساتھ شعور بھی ہونا چاہیے۔
Best best best point about this problem.
یہی تو مسئلہ ھے شعور زرا مشکل سے ہاتھ آتا ھے۔۔۔
غامدی اھلبیت کے حقوق کے معاملے میں غافل رھا اس لیے اس کا علم محدود اور ایک بند گلی میں کھڑی دیوار میں دھنسی ہوئے اینٹ کی مانند ہی ہے اور کچھ نہیں ۔تبھی ملک سے دور دربدر رہا۔ وہ صرف وڈیوز اور کلپس کی وجہہ سے ایک سطحی معلومات رکھے والون کو متاثر کرسکتا ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔ وسلام ۔
[12/03, 7:14 pm] Khalid Hasan: Nisai 3177
रसूलुल्लाह ﷺ के ग़ुलाम हज़रत सौबान (रज़ि०) से रिवायत है कि रसूलुल्लाह ﷺ ने फ़रमाया: मेरी उम्मत में से दो जमाअतों को अल्लाह ने आग से आज़ाद फ़रमा दिया है : एक वो जमाअत जो हिन्दुस्तान पर हमला करेगी और दूसरी वो जमाअत जो हज़रत ईसा (अलैहि०) के साथ (मिल कर दज्जाल के मुक़ाबले पर) होगी।
[12/03, 8:41 pm] Khalid Hasan: أَخْبَرَنِي مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عَبْدِ الرَّحِيمِ قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا أَسَدُ بْنُ مُوسَى قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا بَقِيَّةُ قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي أَبُو بَكْرٍ الزُّبَيْدِيُّ عَنْ أَخِيهِ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ الْوَلِيدِ عَنْ لُقْمَانَ بْنِ عَامِرٍ عَنْ عَبْدِ الْأَعْلَى بْنِ عَدِيٍّ الْبَهْرَانِيِّ عَنْ ثَوْبَانَ مَوْلَى رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عِصَابَتَانِ مِنْ أُمَّتِي أَحْرَزَهُمَا اللَّهُ مِنْ النَّارِ عِصَابَةٌ تَغْزُو الْهِنْدَ وَعِصَابَةٌ تَكُونُ مَعَ عِيسَى ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ عَلَيْهِمَا السَّلَام
[12/03, 9:01 pm] Khalid Hasan: رسول اللہ ﷺ کے غلام حضرت ثوبان رضی اللہ عنہ سے روایت ہے کہ رسول اللہ ﷺ نے فرمایا :’’ میری امت میں سے دو جماعتوں کو اللہ تعالیٰ نے آگ سے آزاد فرما دیا ہے : ایک وہ جماعت جو ہندوستان پر حملہ کرے گی اور دوسری وہ جماعت جو حضرت عیسیٰ علیہ السلام کے ساتھ ( مل کر دجال کے مقابلے میں صف آرا ) ہو گی ۔‘‘
[13/03, 6:38 am] Khalid Hasan: It was narrated that Thawban, the freed slave of the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ), said: The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: 'There are two groups of my Ummah whom Allah will free from the Fire: The group that invades India, and the group that will be with 'Isa bin Maryam, peace be upon him
@@khalidhasan7279 ... I can't read this language...
ماشاءاللہ ماشاءاللہ غامدی صاحب بہت خوب انجنیئر کو اور علم کی ضرورت ہے ۔ کیونکہ اب اس کے بیانات لوگوں میں ایک اور فرقہ جنم لے رہا ہے۔ انجنیئر کو اللہ ہدایت دے ۔
بالکل درست اندازہ ہے آپ کا۔ ایک اور فرقہ۔۔۔۔۔
علمی کتابی فرقہ = قرآن کے خلاف اور تاریخی کتب (بخاری مسلم) کے عین مطابق
He in no way glorified Mauvia RA nor he denigrate any of the rashidoon khalifs what he discussed was a possible solution to the situation prevailing at the time of his ascending the thrown and bringing back normalcy from anarchy.
Humble suggestion to Ghamdi Saheb..
Please do not get involved in answering anyones criticism.
Continue your good work on Islam according to your own knowledge and understanding of the holy Book and do not waste time and effort in controversy.
Other scholars are free to agree or disagree with your interpretations...They should also concentrate on their work and leave it to the general Muslims to accept or reject any version.
Sir ghamidi is two hundred times right,jahil ulama kbi nhi samajh paengay Ghamidi sir ko
@Aisha began Gamdi 'Sir' se apki kia muraad hai ?
Enginner mirza is not an ulema he is just another roadside maulvi
❤
@@danish_mohammed
He's a learnt scholar. He spent his time sitting with the revered scholars and studied Islamic sources. He is in need to work on his language to be gentle. He was one of the admirers of Ghamidi before. He met him and had a good conversation with him years ago.
@@danish_mohammed true
Criticism of Ghamidi sahib in many cases stems from people's failure to fully understand or contextualize him. Mirza has proved it here
In my eyes, it stems due to worldly benefits for some people. And my statement fits here.
@TruthLoversKoSalam who found the body of Firoun? Muslims? Authentic hadith books? No. History is being written, science is being practiced, research is a continuous work. Why have you stop researching on authentic hadiths? Has Allah approved all thats written in the hadith books? Many fables and stories still exist in these books. Narratives build by Ummayads, Abbasids, Sufis are still in so called authentic hadith. We continuously need to evaluate truth.
Learn to appreciate researches of human beings, all this knowledge is knowledge of Allah. Don’t become blind behind muslims scholars. Listen to all sides and hadiths, and then compare if anything violates Quran or not. When you’d do it, you will find the truth.
غامدی صاحب ۔ اللہ کی توفیق سے عالم دین ہیں اور میں انکا بڑا شکریہ ادا کرتا ہوں ۔
you should be attending his classes to learn the art of giving ur opinion with respect even if you dont second
We Ghamidi is Munkaray Hadees and without Hadees we don't have 5 prayers, Azaan, and times of prayer. 2: Gamidi is disregarding the main verse of Quran to Kill the Traitors who disobey the Khalif which was Ali when Maweeya did not obey him and this is Why Moula Ali fought him....Ulme Sue like Ghamidi are nothing but ignorants....Maweeya nay Ihsaan kiya tu Apna Merdood baith Yazid nazad kiya aur Gamidi iss ko Ihsaan keh raha hain.G for Ghamdi = G for Gumrah Monkare Hadith Harji
OMG Ghamidi is stright up Mini Dajjal. it explains why he cannot live in a Muslim country because he is worse than Mirz Quidini...He is simply denied the Hadiths and claimed that Khulfa Rashideen did actually know anything about running an Islamic govt and Maweeya who was the biggest traitor and did accept Khalafit of Moula Ali actullay establish a real Islamic Govt that was broken? This is why Allah Said that Ulmah Sue dunya kay Kuttay ban jatay hain aur Every Biddet is Gumrahi and Every Gumrahi leads to Hell..By denying Hadith this Pagal Ulme Sue open the biggest gates of Jahleyyat on his face
How do we do that ???
Surah Taubah ayat 101
Main Allah nay farmaya Hazrut Muhammad s.a.w ko apkay as pas aur madinah walay Kuch log nafaq par hain aur Hazrut Muhammad s.a.w inko nae janty par Allah inko janta hai aur Allah in logon ko dohra azaab dey ga.
Sahih Muslim 7035
Hazrut Muhammad s.a.w
nay farmaya Meray ashaab main 12 munafiq hain in main sey 8 jannat main nae jaein gy.
Sahih Bhukhari 6585
In Ashaab ko hozay kosar sey dur kar diya jaey ga Jo Deen sey ultay kadam chalay thay.
Surah Hujrat ayat 14
Fateh Makkah Kay baad Allah nay Quran farmaya
Yeh Baadhu kehtay hain
Kay hum Eman lay aein hain yeh eman nae Islam lay hain emaan abi inkay Dil main nae Aya.
Sahih Bhukhari 2812
Hazrut Muhammad s.a.w nay farmaya Kay Hazrut Ammar bin Yasir r.a ko aik baghi jammat shaheed karay gi aur baghi jammat jahanam ki taraf bhulaey gi.
Mauwiya bin Abu Sufyan ki baghi jammat nay Hazrut Ammar bin Yasir r.a ko shaheed kiya.
Sahih Muslim 6220
Main mauwiya bin Abu Sufyan nay hukam diya Hazrut Saad bin Abi Waqas r.a ko nazubillah Hazrut Ali r.a ko bura kaho.
Sahih Muslim 6229
(Marwan bin Hakim Jo mauwiya bin Abu Sufyan ki hakomat main madinah ka governor tha jis nay Jung e Jamal main Hazrut Talha r.a ko shaheed kiya )
Marwan Kay bachon nay Hazrut Ali r.a par nazubillah lanat ki.
Sahih Muslim 6628
Main Hazrut Muhammad s.a.w nay bad Dua de mauwiya bin Abu Sufyan ki jab isnay nafarmani ki Hazrut Muhammad s.a.w ki .
Sahih Muslim 4776
Mauwiya bin Abu Sufyan nay hukam diya logon ka nahaq maal Khao.
Sahih Bhukhari 4827
( Jab mauwiya bin Sufyan nay apni zindangi main yazeed ki zabardasti bait laynay ki khoshish ki phir 1st khalifa Hazrut Abu Bakr r.a Kay betay Hazrut Abdul Rehman bin Abu Bakr r.a nay yazeed ki bait sey inkar kiya phir mauwiya nay inkay sath bura salook kiya .
Sahih bhukari 4108
Main Mauwiya bin Abu Sufyan nay Kaha Abdullah bin Omar r.a ko main Tumhary baap sey zada khilafat ka haqdar hon.
Jo log munkir hain Sahih Bhukari aur Sahih Muslim ki sahih Ahadis Kay wo nasbi hain wo bughaz karty hain Hazrut Ali r.a sey aur shia ki nafrat main Sahih Ahadis Kay munkir hain.
معاویہ اور عمرو بن العاص خود اس حدیث سے واقف تھے، پڑھے مسند احمد 12347
غامدی منکر حدیث ہے۔ کرو اسکا بھی انکار
حدیث: محمد بن عمروبن حزم سے مروی ہے، وہ کہتے ہیں: جب سیدنا عمار بن یاسر رضی اللہ عنہ شہید ہوئے تو سیدنا عمر و بن حزم رضی اللہ عنہ ، سیدنا عمرو بن عاص رضی اللہ عنہ کے پاس گئے اور انہیں بتلایاکہ سیدنا عمار رضی اللہ عنہ شہید ہوگئے ہیں، جبکہ اللہ کے رسول صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم نے فرمایا تھاکہ ایک باغی گروہ عمار کو قتل کرے گا۔ یہ سن کر سیدنا عمروبن عاص رضی اللہ عنہ گھبرا گئے اور اِنَّا لِلّٰہِ وَاِنَّا اِلَیْہِ رَاجِعُوْنَ پڑھتے ہوئے سیدنا معاویہ رضی اللہ عنہ کے پاس پہنچ گئے، سیدنا معاویہ رضی اللہ عنہ نے ان کی حالت دیکھ کر پوچھا: تمہیں کیا ہوا ہے؟ انہوں نے بتلایا کہ سیدنا عمار رضی اللہ عنہ شہید ہوگئے ہیں، سیدنا معاویہ رضی اللہ عنہ نے کہا: عمار قتل ہوگئے تو پھر کیا ہوا؟ سیدنا عمرو رضی اللہ عنہ نے کہا:میں نے رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم کوفرماتے سنا ہے کہ ایک باغی گروہ عمار کو قتل کرے گا۔ یہ سن کر سیدنا معاویہ رضی اللہ عنہ نے ان سے کہا: تم اپنے پیشاب میں پھسلو، کیا ہم نے اس کو قتل کیاہے؟ اسے تو علی رضی اللہ عنہ اور ان کے ساتھیوں نے مروایا ہے، وہ لوگ انہیں لے آئے اور لا کر ہمارے نیزوں یا تلواروں کے درمیان لا کھڑا کیا۔
Why people don’t understand that ali bhai Sahib is not a scholar rather he is another well read molvi.😢
He is a douche bag. A jahil who cannot even understand context and point of view of Ghamidi Sahab, he is a typical "lakeer ka fakeer" jahil. His tone and arrogance says it all.
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You lost me at well-read. It's an insult to compare the likes of Ghamidi to a street performer like Engineer Ali sahab. Ghamidi sahab is a whole new level. I'm just grateful I'm living in the time of Ghamidi sahab.
علی بھائی کو ہم بہت سنتے ہیں اور پسند کرتے ہیں لیکن ایک بات تو سچ ہے کہ علی بھائی کے اندر "میں " بہت ہیں ،، روایتی مولبی لگے ہیں یہاں اور جو بندہ کہہ رہا ہے دل خوش کر دیا علی بھائی ،، تو ان میں اور گلی محلے کے مذہبی پیشوا کے گروہ میں کیا فرق ہے ،،
Ghamidi sahib the great of the time ❤ Allah pak inko sehat e kamla or lambi omar ata frmaye or deen ko isi trha asan feham me samjhana naseeb kry 🤲🏻
Ameen
Strange way to comment on religious opinions by Engineer sb. please try to counter Javed sb by argument and logic and not by using such foul language.
شاید بھائی آپ نے خلافت و ملکوکیت کتاب نہیں پڑھی ۔ جو مولانا مودودی صاحب نے لکھی ہے اور محمد علی مرزا کا 5 بی ریسرچ پیپر نہیں پڑھا ۔ علی پہلے ہی اس ٹاپک پر کافی بات دلیل کے ساتھ کر چکا ہے ۔۔محترم غامدی صاحب حد سے زیادہ مثبت سوچ رکھتے ہیں جبکہ تنقیدی سوچ ہی آپ کو سیدھے راستے پر رکھتی ہے ۔
logical baat kya hai Na Qur'an se sunnat se sirf apni logical baat karna deen mein Har jagah iss nahi laa sakte Ghamidi sahab pehle hadees dekhe fir baat karein
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خلافت ملوکیت پر سوال یہ ہے کہ مودودی صاحب کو لکھنی کیوں پڑھی؟؟
It’s a shame that engineer Mohammed Ali mirza said about Ghamidi sahib and he didn’t listen to Ghamidi sahib but he made such a harsh comment’s it’s a shame
میں تو میں تو ۰۰۰ یہ عالم ہے۔
سلام ہے ان کے لوگوں جو اس کو عالم کہتے ہیں ؟؟؟
I am surprised by the body language and statement made by people like Engineer Sb, who claim themselves to be learned. True learned people do not rely on rhetoric but on facts and understanding of the subject. These people call themselves followers of our Prophet (SAW). Can Mirza Sb. cite any hadith where our beloved Prophet (SAW) used such a language against any person during his lifetime, whether they were idolators, people of other Books etc. Because of people like Mirza Sb. and their followers we Muslims of the world are in this state today.
Ameer e sham k pas kaise 2sra option nahi tha?? Kaise maluqiyat aur anarchy thi?? Khilafat kaise option nahi thi?? Zara mujay aaga kren mehrbani
Students of Ghamidi sahab even a small one have more dedication towards knowledge and truth than students of Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza even the closed ones. Mirza students are more here for meme and fun
Moreover, I could say with confidence that Engineer sahab have called Ghamidi sahab “Jahil” even without listening to his full conversation. This shows who is actually “Jahil”
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I have never seen such a knowledgeable & humble person ,,, Ghamdi sab
Mirza sb was very disrespectful. This is not the way of islam. Instead he should have listened carefully to ghamidi sb.
Mein ali mirza aur ghamdi sahab donon ko follow krta hun, is tarha k historical topics par bht uloom experience aur cool mind hona zaruri hy, is issue par ali bhai ki reasoning bht kamzor lagi, is dor mein ghamdi sahab ka koi alternate nh, qadar karni chahyey hmen ghamdi sahab ki.
There is no comparison of Ghamdi sahib and engr mirza.
Ghamdi sahib is a great scholar,
But mirza just played with emotions and curiosity about differences between Muslims
Very true realistic Tajzeia Zindabaad Ghamdi sb👍
Yeh Jaahil Engineer ki itni himmat ke woh Ghamidi sahab jaise aalim ke baare mei badsalooki se kalaam kare..
Ustad ghamidi sb aap ka Hadees aur tareekh Ko understand Karna KA tarika Sab sa bahter hai you are greatest ever.
Unfortunately not true kindly wait till he publish his work on Hadith he had completely ignored ahadiths related fitnaas at the of 4th Caliph...
@@smartservices422 you know how hadiths are manufactured? Learn how people spread rumors and why they spread it. Same reason why Followers of Jesus still think Jesus is son of God even Aqal don’t accept it.
Ghamdi sb is the gem sort of a person and gifted by ALLAH to now a days Muslims. The best logics without any lame emotions.
Alhamdulillah Dr israr Ahmed k bd ghamidi Sahab AK azeem sarmaya hein Allah unky darjat buland farmaye mn unko bht sunti hun or jitni asani SE unki bt smjh Ati h Mirza usko nhi pohnch skta sirf apni tarif or khud ko koi bht bra ilmi pahar smjny k ilawa or kch nhi ata apni language bhi suny or ghamidi Sahab k muthamal lahjy ko bhi suny
Allah Ghamdi sahb ka Ameer Sham k sath hashar kry aur hmara Maula Ali k sath Ameen
حشر میں معاملات ذاتی اعمال کی بنیاد پر ہونگے کسی کی نسبت وہاں کام نہیں آئے گی۔ رسول اللہ کا فرمان اس ضمن میں “اپنی بیٹی فاطمہ اور پھوپھی کو تنبیہ”
I can't believe ali mirza sahab can speak like this ... he has huge following but still without argumentation only romanticism towards such type of topics and with this behaviour will be destructive to the minds and personality of youth .
Strongly disagree with engineer, he even doesn't understand ghamidi sahib point
he does understand Ghamidi's points, but he don't want others to understand them
غامدی صاحب آپکو انجینئر جیسے دو ٹکے کے مولانا کو جواب دینےکی بھی ضرورت نھی وہ عالم ھے کہاں چند حدیث کی کتابیں سامنے رکھ ان سے دیکھ کر تو میں بھی پڑھ کر بتا سکتا ھوں استاد وہ ھوتا ھے جو مختعلف ڈآیریکشن سے معلومات کو سمیٹ کر سامنے سننے والے کی تسلی کرے جو آپ سے بہتر اس وقت کوئ نھی کرسکتا یہ انجینئراور طارق جمیل جیسے مولانا جو بات بات پر پنجابی کا تڑکہ لگا کر گفتگو میں مزاق پیدا کرنے کی کوشش کرتے دین کوئ مزاق ھے
Ghamidi sahb is the best of scholars in this era love and respect ❤
I am sorry to say that the way Engineer Sb criticised Ghamdi Sb is highly objectionable and ridiculous which reflects his level of wisdom…
Two Urdu proverbs can sum up situation of the person who takes pride in being overzealous, loud and disrespectful while claiming to be a religious scholar.
"Thotha chana , baajay ghana"
" Neem hakeem khatra-e-jaan, neem mullah khatra-e-emaan"
Ghamidi can be right or wrong but at least he has original thoughts based on usually a logical trail of references to Quran, Hadith and common sense.
This engineer guy is a Rattoo Tota and has no original thoughts. Lakeer ka fakeer with typical maulvi thought process .. He s arrogant and self-righteous and is no match for the intellect and depth of a scholar like Ghamidi...
Ghamidi sb ka point of view on this issue is very balanced. Yeh deen ka naheen siyasat ka maslah hai.
Hazrat Ali kee afzaliat ka kon inkari hai.
Ghamdi: Ameer Muawiya had to choose between monarchy and anarchy, that's why he choose monarchy.
Too bad no one told this to Umar bin Abdul aziz. He should have followed Ghamdi's logic as well instead of following Islamic principles.
If peaceful transfer was his priority, Muawiya should have handed over the Caliphate to Imam Hussain as per the deal he agreed in Sulah e Hasan. If peaceful transfer was important, Muawiya should not have rebelled against Khalifa e Rashid Hazrat Ali.
Mirza Mechanic aik Youthia hai Tosha Khan Zani Ka Dum challa
JB b koi Zani khan koi bongi Marta hai yeh ous ki difaa mein aa Jata hai
Rafazi saala
@@zenda40 first listen to him completely and then comment. He has covered all of this in his 20 lecture series. Still, everyone has a right to politely disagree.
غامدی صاحب، آپ سے ہمیں دین سیکھنے اور سمجھنے میں بہت مدد ملتی ہے لہذا آپ اپنا کام جاری رکھیں اور ایسے "طفل مکتب" (انجنیئر) کی جسارت کو درگزر کرتے ہوئے آگے بڑھ جائیں۔
دین کتابوں سے سیکھیں کتابوں نے صحیح احادیث امت تک پہنچانے کا فریضہ ادا کر دیا ہے ۔ شخصیت جب تک کتابوں کے مطابق دین سکھائیں تو لے لیں اور کتابوں سے ہٹ کر بتائیں تو اس چیز کو نہ لیں ہمیشہ دین کی بات اور ارکان کی دلیل مانگیں ۔ اتنی سی محنت دین اسلام کا حق ہے
@@exploringtheworld9597 اگر خلفاء نے کوئ نظام بنایا تھا تو برائے مہربانی تفصیل فرما دیں
@@asifmunir694 شیخین کا نظام عدل وانصاف تھا آپ ان سے انکار کرتے ہیں ۔ بعد میں دنیا پرستوں نے فتنہ وفساد سازشیں شروع کی جو آج تک جاری وساری ہیں
@@exploringtheworld9597 بات سیاسی نظم اور انتقال اقتدار کی ہو رہی ہے،ٹائم گزر جانے کے بعد فتویٰ دینا آسان ہوتا ہے جب کہ اگر ہر طرف گرد اڑ رہی ہو تو سیدھا راستہ تلاش کرنا آسان نہیں ہوتا۔آج کے دور میں جبکہ ہزاروں کیمرے ہر طرف موجود ہیں ہمیں سچی بات کا علم نیں ہوتا،اور آپ کچھ کوگوں کے بیان کردہ تاثرات پر فیصلہ کرنا چاہتے ہیں،
@@asifmunir694 سیاسی نظم اور انتقال اقتدار اگر آخرت کی بنیاد پر ہے تو کائنات کا سب سے بہترین نظام ہے جس میں کوئی کمی رہ ہی نہیں سکتی جب آخرت کی بنیاد کو ہٹا دیں تو سوائے ٹریش کے کچھ نہیں رہ جاتا۔
Engineer Sahib must say sorry to Allah S.W.T. and respect others. He should narrate any issue properly and humbly.
پہلے تحمل سے کسی کی پوری بات سننی چاہئے پھر تحمل سے ہی اور دلیل سے اسکا جواب دینا اسلامی طریق ہے اور اسی سے سمجھنے میں مدد ملتی ہے۔
Insan apni zaban se pehchana jata hai.
Engineer saab lacks manners and etiquettes for a civil conversation.
Theek bat bury akhlak sy kehny sy galat nhi ho gati
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Akhlaq hi sab kuch hai miyan, Badtameezi se Islam ki dawat bhi doge to koi qubool nahi karega.
Shikwa agar beja bhi ho to Lazim hai Shaoor .
No body explained like him very cool and calm
But naasibiyat ka point of view ghamidi sb ka point of view. Wallah! Muawiya Fateh Makka se qabl muslimaan honay walay kisi sahabi ke qadmon ke barabar nhi. Us ki hukoomat muslim hukoomat thi, islami hukoomat nhi!
Ameer e sham k pas kaise 2sra option nahi tha?? Kaise maluqiyat aur anarchy thi?? Khilafat kaise option nahi thi?? Zara mujay aaga kren mehrbani
Muslmano k pas koi voting system tha hi ni khalifa khud 5 6 logo ki raye sy khalifa ban gye jb saltanat phel gai tw un 5 6 arbi khalifa ki raye pr khalifa kesy chunty baki log man hi ni thy skty
I was a fan of Eng. Sahib, but after calling Ghamidi sahib an ignorant, is itself a proof that Engneer is a Maulvi only and not a scholar .May Allah Tabarak have mercy on his person.
GHAMIDI SB PATIENCE HOW HE CRITICISE WITH LOGIC AND FACTS, HIS MANNERS HIS CALMNESS IS JUST AMAZING. THANK YOU GHAMIDI SB
Ghamdi ek badai aalimai deen hai❤❤
Self pride reflected from engr. sahab. Ali Bhi u r right at various times but sometimes ur attitude becomes ridiculous.
you mean sometimes Engineer sb ka molvi baahar aa jaata hai ???
True. I do listen to his thoughts and like him but there is always a feeling of ridiculing others, boasting doesn't make any one Supreme. I hate this attitude and it takes me away from listening to him any more. Allah doesn't like this.
Ali engineer can do better in his skills ask him to invent something which is beneficial for humanity and Muslims.
He looks like maskhara rather than interpreter of islaam.
I agree 💯 ...If we watch Engr Ali's videos of 4 years ago...he had a completely different body language, quite humble, but the fame has hit him hard, and it's all about competition to him than sharing knowledge and letting the audience decide, how every scholar/student of Islam should behave.
Ghamdi sir u have the best knowledge God Bless you 🇨🇦
Regardless of the subject, the difference is evident between a "youtuber" and an "Islamic Scholar"
Sadiyon tak saltnat bi chalti Rahi or sadiyon tak Ahle bait ka qatal bi hota Raha...1 bi imam ko ni chora banu ummayah or Banu Abbas ny... Hazrat muavia ny ye taglub kaisy hasil Kya woh Humy pata hai...Itny hi muhsin thay tu Hazrat Ali Ky Sath kyon jangy karty rahein...kyon un ki bait ni ki...ummat ko 2 tokrey karny waly hi Banu ummayah ha...Or app keh rahein hai woh Mohsin ha...Baat mukamal bataye....Un bagawaton Ky responsible bi khud Hazrat muavia hi thay...Ju salook Ahle bait Ky Sath Kya tha.... tu ummat ma revenge ka hona lazmi tha...
Ghamdi Sir is really difference between literate and parha likha jahil engineer, the way he talk.
What a difference between the approach of these two gentlemen. Ghamidi Sahib is truly knowledgeable, decent in approach,balanced and convincing.The other chap hardly qualifies to any of these honours.
You may disagree with Ghamidi Sahab but his arguments are practical. In theory, you can idealise clean government but it has a lot of challenges. Ali Mirza should learn to listen, to respect and digest knowledge and then speak...
This guy is a perfect example of compounded ignorance. .
Long live Ghamdi
From Afghanistan.
Javed ghamidi just love it Allah aap ko sehat aur tandrusti all time great for me I don't think any another better prayer than this prayer Allah qabool farmaye aameen aurangzeb butt from Switzerland daska sialkot siranwali ❤️ ♥️
محترم انجینئر صاحب ، علم محبت سکھاتا ہے ۔ اور نہیں تو کم از کم عمر کا ہی کا لحاظ رکھ لیتے ۔
دراصل انجینر صاحب کا حال کھسیانی بلی کھمبا نوچے والا ہے ۔
Ali bhai can't reach the intellectual level of Ghamidi sahib in next 100 years. He has crossed the ethical limits of decent disagreement. Pity on him
Ye jo dunya me nizam hai iska ziada tar hissa hazrat umar R.A nay dia hai
😂😂😂😂😂 knsa nizam bhai 5 6 arbi logo ny miL k unko khalifa bna dia tha 🤣 qabaili halat thy koi banking system ni koi hospital system ni koi agriculture system ni 🤣🤣🤣 knsa nizam dia hy bhai zinda hojao ilm k meedan mai jazbat ki koi ahmiyat ni
Engineer sb make better ur akhlaq like ghamdi sb, u can disagree but be courteous . u r my favourite
Javed Ahmed ghamidi sab is a really great scholar maashaAllah
The Great Javed Ahmed Ghamidi ❤
Ghamdi sahb ne bht tafseel say btay tha or hume alhamdulillah bilkul sahi samjh ai Allah sub asahab pe croro rehmte kare or ghamdi sahb k ilam me izafa kare.
Salam Ghamdi sb. Allah aap ko hifzo aman main Rakhy aur aap ko sahat wali lambi umer dae. Aamin
Aameen
Engineer ko bahut gurur agaya hai, Allah magrur ka sar hamesha jhuka deta hai, isiliye Engineer dunyan me zalil horaha hai,
As a student of Engineer muhammad ali mirza sahab
The world use by engineer sahab to ghamdhi sahab is not good
This professor has it's own caliber And not essentially every one can reach there , logic and arguments has its own impact and most important the way of presentation sequence .
انجینیر صاحب نے ثابت کر دیا کہ وہ خود وی شے ای کوئی نیں اور انداز بھی کمال مولویانہ ھے
Hahahahahaha👍
Javed Ahmad Ghamidi is a real scholar and a gem and Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza, what to say about him, May Allah guide him to the right path
He read books and became scholar . There is huge difference between both . Ghamidi is an intellectual man .
Me to smjhta tha ki ghamidi sb bade scholar honge.. Isiliye unki tfseer li... Lekin afsoos huwa ki unhone kuch bhi nahi likha, bs jo kuch he sab tadbbure Quran se liya he...
Sb baaten bhi unhi se lekr bolte hain.. Log sun kr dhoke me aa jate hain
@ syed sharjeel askari may ALLAH guide ghamdi Saab to right path . Ameen
غامدی اھلبیت کے حقوق کے معاملے میں غافل رھا اس لیے اس کا علم محدود اور ایک بند گلی میں کھڑی دیوار میں دھنسی ہوئے اینٹ کی مانند ہی ہے اور کچھ نہیں ۔تبھی اپنے ملک سے دور دربدر رہا۔۔۔ وہ صرف وڈیوز اور کلپس کی وجہہ سے ایک سطحی معلومات رکھے والون کو متاثر کرسکتا ہے۔۔۔۔۔۔ وسلام ۔
Ghamidi sb ki scholistic expertise apni jagah lekin yahan wo ghalat hain. Wo us so called sahabi ko baqi sahaba pr tarjeeh day rahay hain jis ka khandaan khud islam mein daakhil nhi hua, majbooran fatah makkah ke moqa pr musliman hua, secondly Rasool SAWW ki life mein sirf 2.5 years jis ne guzaaray us ko ummat ka mohsin kehna bdd diyanti hai, thirdly maula Ali (kw) ki shaan mein Nabi SAWW ki jitni ahadees hain un ke bawajood, Hazrat Ali ko dhokay se khilafat se hataanay walay ko itna mustehsan bna ke pesh kerna ghamidi sb ke nasibi honay ki daleel hai.Lastly, abdullah bin amr bin al aas ki riwayat mein ye hadees k tumhara chacha zaad kehta hai k najaaez maal bnao, properties ghasab kro etc un ke fisq ki waazeh dalaalat kerti hai. Allah ghamidi sb ko haq goi ki taufeeq day. Un ke stance ne mujh smait boht logon ko dil girifta kiya.
No comparison between gamdi s.b and mirza sb
غامدی صاحب نےبہت سلجھےہوےواضح اندازمین بات سمجھائ ہےجزاہ اللہ خیرا
واقعی امیرمعاویہ قوم کےمحسن ہین
مرزابہکاہواہےاوربےوقوفی کےساتھ بھولےعوام کوبہکانےمیں لگاہے
Ghamidi Sb is always logical. Engineer Sb should have listened to him before getting aggressive in his response.
Zabardast Ghamidi Sahab, very balanced discussion. JAZAKA ALLAH.
Ameer e sham k pas kaise 2sra option nahi tha?? Kaise maluqiyat aur anarchy thi?? Khilafat kaise option nahi thi?? Zara mujay aaga kren mehrbani
Ghamdi sb Weldon Zindabaad very true realistic Tajzeia
You are the great sir Javed ahmed ghamidi.....
Allah ap ko kamyabiyan dy
Ali Bhai. You must apologize Ghamidi Sahib and make it quick to keep your stature
Engineer should have never used abusive language.
He hasn’t left sahabi why would he care about ghamidi.
Sahabi insan hy Nabi nahi jb wo koi system ni dy sky ummat ko tw jazbati ho k hr bt mai yehi khi jana wo afzal hai wo afzal hai is sy Haqeeqat badal ni jati
Engineer doesn't have the caliber to reach the hight of ILM where Ghamidi sb stands.
Ghamidi sab is genuine scholar and very humble. No comparison with others. Others do not know how to debate and talk
Sir you are 100 percent correct. We are need of analysit yo guide our community
Ghamidi sahab is one of the great scholars۔
Salaam
Can you believe brothers and sisters I am not sure how many years going on I am each and every food eating while i am listening Brother Javed ghamidi
I really can't sleep when i am not listening to him , I am always listening him when I desparate, tension etc
And always trying to find may something brother Javed ghamidi speak unlogic or out of contact many years
I am failed
I would say how I am lucky ya Allah 🤲 you born me his time so I getting guidance of true Islam
Ya Allah Salamat him and grant him long life with heath and wealth
Ameen
علی بھائی جیسے بھائی کا تقابل علماء کرام سے نہیں بلکہ اپنے آج کے بھائیوں وغیرہ سے کیا کریں۔ جیسے سیاسی ایم کیو ایم کا الطاف بھائی یا کرکٹ لورز کا بوم بوم بھائی ہو۔
ذو ادراک ذوفہم و دانش حاسہ ھے
بصیرت و بصارت آپ کا خاصہ ھے
رب العالمین محترم فضیلت الشیخ جناب جاوید احمد غامدی حفظہ اللہ تعالیٰ کی عمر و عمل و فضل میں اضافہ فرمائیں اور امت مسلمہ کے لئے خیر کا موجب بنائے آمین ثم آمین یارب العالمین
Amin
Salam sir allah ki rehmaten aap par kya aalatareen wazahat ki hai aap nai allah taa qayamat aap par apni rehmaten jari farmaen is dor mai sari insaniyat k lie allah ki taraf sai buhot bara inaam hain aap salamat rahen sir
From abu dhabi
Ameen summa ameen
Eng mohd Ali was not answering Ghamdi Saab because he doesn't say chistee rasool Allah. He was say to other group of ppl not ghamdi Saab. Respect to both Ghamdi Saab and eng Mohammad Ali.
JB tak Kisi dusray ki baat suneingay nhn to samjheingay kaisay.
Gamadi sahab is imam of this era ❤️
Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza must apologise.
Mirza Mechanic is a Youthia behaves like his guru Tosha Khan Zani.
Yes indeed he should must apologise
جی ھاں، ناصبیت کا امام۔
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@@maaz87 رافضی اور ناصبی دونوں جھنمی اور حرامی۔