Hazrat Ali (ra) aur Ameer Muawiya (ra) Ka Ikhtilaf - Part 9 - Javed Ahmad Ghamidi
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- Hazrat Ali (ra) aur Ameer Muawiya (ra) Ka Ikhtilaf - Part 9 - Javed Ahmad Ghamidi
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اس اہم واقعۂ کربلا کو ہم آج سے پہلے چند دنوں کی مخالفت کا نتیجہ سمجھتے تھے۔۔۔آج علمی طور پر معلوم ہوا کہ اس کے پیچھے ایک تاریخ کھڑی ہے۔۔۔۔۔غامدی صاحب نے ہمیں تاریخ ہی نہیں بتائی بلکہ اس کو دیکھنے کا پرکھنے کا اور جانچنے کا طریقہ بتایا اور سمجھایا ہے۔بلاشبہ یہ اللہ کا ہم پر غامدی صاحب کی صورت میں احسان عظیم ہے کہ اس پرفتن دور میں ہماری درست سمت میں راہنمائی کررہے ہیں۔۔۔۔۔اللہ ان پر رحمتیں نازل کرے اور ہمیں عمل کی توفیق دے۔۔۔۔آمین
اس کھرے علمی تجزیہ کے نتیجے میں جو حقیقت پسندانہ اور معتدل نقطہ نظر رکھنے والا گروہ پیدا ہوگا وہی امت کے درمیان کھینچی گئی اس لکیر کو مٹائے گا. انشاءاللہ.
اللہ رب العزت غامدی صاحب کا سایہ ہم پر سلامت رکھے۔ غامدی صاحب وہ خوش نصیب انسان ہیں جن کی حسنات تا قیامت جاری رہیں گی
انشاءاللہ ۔۔۔ہم بہت زیادہ دلچسپی کیساتھ یہ تاریخی ڈائیلاگ دیکھ رہے ہیں اور اب پارٹ 10 کا بے چینی سے انتظار رہے گا ۔۔۔اللہ تعالی آپ کو اور ساری ٹیم کو اپنی حفظ وامان میں رکھے آمین یا رب العالمین ۔۔۔۔
ہم سب خوش قسمت ہیں کہ ہمارے عہد میں ہمیں غامدی صاحب جیسا نابغہء روزگار اسکالر میسر ہے، جو تاریخ انسانی اور مذاہب عالم پر علم کے ہزاروں قلزم پئے بیٹھا، ہمیں پیغمبرانہ خلوص کیساتھ سب کچھ اپنے صیحیح تناظر میں دکھائے جا رہا ہے ۔۔۔
اس قدر زوردار بیان، اور لہجہ ایسا دلنشیں کہ ۔۔۔ماشاءاللہ ۔ماشاءاللہ ۔ماشاءاللہ ۔۔۔
❤🌷🌷🌷
مزا ارہا ہے جب ہم جذبات کو ایک طرف رکھ کر اس تاریخی سانحے کا تجزیہ لے رہے ہیں۔
GG (Great Ghamidi). Teacher of teachers. Hero of heroes. Einstein of Islam. Ocean of knowledge. The best philosopher, theologian, educationist, researcher, critical thinker, Mujaddid-e-Islam. Love you Ustad-e-Mohtaram.
mashaAllah ustaz javid ahmed ghamdi lhas analysed the sit very logically without any emotions in a way not described earlier
jazak Allah
Khobsurat.
Kam chuk dita ai
Is se khubsurat aur tafseeli daleel ke sath bat is mozu pr Ghamidi sahab ke elawa koi nahi kr skta , Allah Bless You
Jazakallahu Khair 1400 sal Ki Tareekh Me Aisa Analysis kisi ne pesh Nahi kya.......!
Kam ilmi hai apki
A very sensitive topic but Ghamdi Sahib is also at its peak to explain it eloquently and with logical reasoning....we got him ...
Bohatttttttttt khud. Lajawab. Mashallah. ALLAH Ghamidi shb ki zindagi m barkat dein. Ik intahi sanjeeda or nazuk masle ko bari khubi se samjaya. Jazakallah
اسلام کی تا ریخ سے گر د ساف کرنے کا شکریہ
What a brilliant analysis by this great Scholar. May ALLAH Ta’ala keep him in good health and give him a long life so that the Muslim ummah will benefit from his teachings and discourses.
AMEEN
This series of Ghamidi Sb Has addressed my so many misconceptions. Beautiful.
Javed ghamadi is just love it allah aap ko sehat aur tandrusti day all time great for me I don't think any other better prayer than this prayer allah qabool farmaey aameen aurangzeb butt from Switzerland daska sialkot siranwali ❤
He has no ailment. So why praying for his recovery?🤔
Allah Pak apko sallamt rakhye shaht tondrasti jaazayee kheir lambi Umar ata frmaye Aameen ya rabuollalameen jaazak Allah kheir
عامدی صاحب ھم آپکے بہت مشکور ھیں آپ نے ایک بہت نازک اور حساس معاملے پر واقعے پر ھماری راھنمائی فرمائی،اپ نے بہت بہترین طریقے اور زاوئیے سے ھمیں سمجھانے کی کوشش کی،جس سے کافی حد تک معلومات میں اضافہ ھوا،بہت بہت شکریہ
جزاک اللہ خیرا کثیرا
میرے استاد غامدی صاحب نے مجھے دین کی بہت سمجھ دی ہے ۔اللہ تعالی انہیں دنیا وآخرت میں کامیاب فرمائے آمین یارب 🌹🌻🍀🌷🌸
بسم اللہ الرحمن الرحیم
بیشک
Aap k baad sunnay wala me hoon
بہت ہی درست منطقی مدلل غیر جزباتی تجزیہ
حضرت حسین کی مکہ میں سرگرمیوں۔۔مکہ سے کوفہ کے سفر کے دوران لوگوں کے اجتماعات۔مسلم بن عقیل کی کوفہ میں تحریک کو درست مخاطب نہی کیا غامدی صاحب نے۔۔۔۔مدینہ سے مکہ۔۔۔۔مکہ سے کوفہ تک حضرت حسین کے سفر کے دوران کوئ حکومتی جارحانہ اقدام نہی ہوا۔۔۔۔حالانکہ مسلم کوفہ کے گورنر ہاؤس کا گھیراؤ کر چکے تھے
@@kanwaraqeelakhtar9859 Next episode zikr karenge
Again I would say Alhamdulillah I saw u, watched u and lived ur era sir
Incredible! Its difficult to fathom so much knowledge and wisdom concentrated in one scholar. I have checked numerous times the references given by Ghamdi Sahib and always found it correct. Please do explain his mode of preparing a particular subject. I always wish to listen him in person.
Jazzak Allah ❤
بہترین تجزیہ کیا ہے انہوں نے
بہت خوب،غامدی صاحب کو سنتے ہی رہنے کا دل کرتا ہے
a GENUINE n very HONEST scholar in the HISTORY of Pakistan!
Islamic history kaho Pakistan ki history to abhi bhi theak nahi batatay
In the history of world..
Peak of wisdom. Kamaal analysis so far. JazakAllah khair
Kam ilmi me aisa hi lagta hai... Jisne pehele khud tareekh ka mutala kiya hoga wo samjh sakta hai ghamdi sahab kahan kahan dandiya maar rahe hain
Such a great scholar and point of views he has ..
مجھے جاوید احمد غامدی صاحب سے کئی مسائل میں اختلاف ہے.لیکن ان زیر بحث نازک مسائل کو جس خوب صورتی اور حسن ترتیب سے انہوں نے بیان کیا ہے غالباً یہ انہی کا خاصہ ہے. سیدنا حسین رضی اللہ تعالیٰ عنہ سے محبت و عقیدت ہر مسلم کے لیے اپنی جگہ مسلم ہے.اور نسبت رسول اللہ صل اللہ علیہ و سلم کا ادب و حیا بھی ناگزیر. لیکن محض جذبات سے بالاتر ہوکر حقائق کا تجزیہ اس سے زیادہ معقول شاید ہی ہوسکتا ہے.
سلامت رہیں استاذ محترم ۔۔
I have been listening this much talked issue since childhood but today is a quite day.
Same here now I can understand
غامدی صاحب حضرت عمار بن یاسر والی حدیث بارے کب analysis کریں گے اور دوسرے حضرت معاویہ نے یزید کو نامزد کر کے امت مسلمہ پر کس طرح احسان کیا اسکی بھی وضاحت فرما دیں ۔ شکریہ
He has already discussed the “ehsan on the ummah” part in a previous video. That any other option would have led to civil war, as there was no other feasible way to appoint a ruler that everyone could agree on. But a monarchal succession of rule was already a principle in their time widely accepted by everyone. Other details too but please go back and watch the video.
As for the hadees, I too am waiting for it. One thing I know, is that hazrat Ali never mentioned the hadees. It came to hazrat Muawiya’s knowledge after hazrat Amr bin Aas’s son mentioned it to Amr bin Aas, and then Amr bin Aas to Muawiya.
سلطنت عثمانیہ کی پوری تاریخ میں سگے بھائیوں کے قتل کی ان گنت مثالیں موجود ہیں ـ
Ussski wajah thiiii kiun k Sultan Muhammad fateh k Walid sahb jbbb jang jeetny k qareeb hoty Tou usssky bhaiii hi thyyyy jo ghaddari kerrr jaaaty thyyyyy
Another amazing series has finished I am for next episode. Love & respect. Ghamidi Saheb.
#akrammasood
it will hv another telling n than ustaz javid Ahmed ghamdi will reply to queries sent to brother il yas
Jnab gamadi sahab assalmu alaikum,Ap ke har apisode dekhta hun, Sahi Aur sabut ke sath pesh kartey hai, mujhe bahot pasand Ate hai khabile khubul bat hoti hai, urdu ke mushkil words ko Asan words men samzhate chaliye, is subject ka apisode jalld bhejiye, shukriya
Ghamidi sahib is so impressive personality .
This excellent series should have subtitles in English at a minimum and other languages if possible. It should not just be confined to Urdu speaking audiences. Please raise funds for this effort and Insha’Allah well all support it.
There are sub titles in english
Extra ordinary, genius Islamic scholar, who sees islamic and history events in different perspectives without raising hyper prejudiced emotions
JazakAllah ghamidi sahib
Jaxak Allah ustad e mohtaram :-)
Assalaamu Alaikum. May ALLAH TALA Protect Bless and Guide you Always. Aameen.
Seriously what a great analysis.
جناب غامدی صاحب اللہ ھدایت عطافرماۓ ۔
Aise jagah par topic ko choda gaya ki dil tadap kar rah gaya. Aisa laga jaise pyas bujhane se pahale hi jaam hata liya gaya ho.
Chizon ko alag hi nazariya se dekhne ka Javed Ahmad Ghamidi sir ka andaz layake tahsin hai. 👍👍👍👍
JAZZAK ALLAH KHAIR
us dil mein samajh naheen aati muhabat bani umayya ki
Jis dil mein basti ho muhabat Mustafa ki
May Allah give u long and healthy life sir
Bhot bhot ala...i wish his lectures should be taught in da muslim world.
Aoa , may Allah bless you both a lot , remain safe and happy .
narrated this sensitive issue in a well balanced and sensitive way
السلام وعلیکم غامدی صاحب،آپکی کاوشوں اور آپ کے مدلل استدلال کا میں دل سے معترف ہوں ،واقعی ایک منفرد زاویہ ھے۔مگر پھر بھی میں کہوں گا۔"بہت کٹھن ہے ڈگر پنگھٹ کی۔"
Ji kisi firqe ne nai man na that hez absolutely right.
Jazak Allah Khair
May Allah Subhana wa Ta'ala Bless you with even more energy, dedication in your research and wisdom to communicate your research and analysis to the benefit of Humanity.
Duas are with you for your efforts and being bold enough to tackle some very difficult topics in the service of humanity.
Well done sir.u covered all aspects beautifully.nobody discussed this issue like this.
Ghamidi Saab jis tarhan aap jis tarhan is sub ko dekh rahay hain humarai Qoom abhi is level pay nahi kay is tarhan samajh sakay
Behtreeeeeeen....!!!!
Zaberdast JazakAllah
Watching from North Waziristan. May Allah bless Ghamidi saheb with long life with barakat.
Great Gamdi Sahib
سوال یہ ہے وہ کوفہ کیوں جا رہے تھے؟ وہ نہ بیعت کرتے مدینے میں بیٹھ رہتے تو شاید آنے والے حادثات نہ ہوتے۔ مدینے میں مکے میں حکومت نے اُن سے کوئی باز پُرس نہیں کی تھی۔
Agar Wo Madina me hote sayedna Husain ke sath log attach hote hukumat madina ki bhi hurmat pamal karti...... Jaisa ki waqia Harra hua tha......
Aaj mai aap ki baat say sehmat hoo ki agar hz hussain ki jagah koi aur hote to hum aram say keh dete ki chand bagiyo ko kuchal dala
Waise hi jaise hz mauwiya na hote to hum keh dete ki ek governor ne hukum ke khilaaf bagawat kar di phir hum ko Radool saw ki vo hadees sahi lagti ki ammar ko ek baghi jamaat qatal kare gi.
I agree with u
غامدی صاحب کے ان ویڈیو کو اگر ایک سیریز بنا دی جاۓ تو بہتر ہوگا تاکہ تمام سوالات کے مدلل جواب کی ایک ہی جامع ویڈیو بنا دی جاۓ۔۔۔۔۔۔اور آگے اعتراضات کا سیشن بھی آرہا ہے اسے اسکا پارٹ ٹو بنا دیا جاۓ۔۔۔۔۔جیسے خطبات ڈیلس کی صورت میں ویڈیو موجود ہے۔۔۔۔۔ایک اور اہم موضوع جس پر غامدی صاحب کی قیمتی آراء کی ضرورت ہے۔۔۔۔وہ اسلام پر مشترقین کے اعتراض ہیں کو اصولی انداز میں سمجھایا جاۓ۔۔۔۔۔
Jazak Allah
Beyond the expectations ❤️ what a beautiful way of sharing the knowledge 💗 may God bless you more Ghamidi Sahab. Thank you
Wah , khobsurat.
excellent
Such a great scholar, historian. Allah bless
Well, the death of Hussain RA and his companions was the climax of the conflict between Ameer Muawiya and Hazrat Ali. It was the climax of Ali's purely Islamic principles and Muawiya's Machiavellian politics. Personally, I can never friend with the enemies of those dear to the Prophet SAW. Seems like cowardice and disloyalty to me. But to each its own 👍
brother it was shahadat not death of emam Hussain n all members of his family n associated with him except zainal aabdein
hazrat Hussain made jehad to save system of femocratic move over of khilafat on principles of shura bainhum
Ameer Muawiya (R.A) malukiyal is the result of negligence of First 3 caliphs. They couldn't produce a system which could be lasted for a long a time. And thus khilafat e Rashida only lasted for 30 years because they done nothing to handle the system of khilafat at such big scale.
@@mohsinrehman3026 khilafat and malukiyat is a different issue. Here we are talking about the injustice done to Hazrat Ali and Hassan and Hussain (RA), who we love because the Prophet SAW loved them. Hazrat Ali RA was chosen on the basis of shura so why campaign against him? Read some on the issue and you'll come to know that Muawiya, Amr and Mughira started the campaign against Ali just because he wouldn't give them political power.
Iss ke elawa Sura Aale Imran ki Ayat no.21 ka mutaliaa ker lain jis ka tarjuma ha, "Jo loag Allah ki aayaat ka inkaar kertay hain aour Ambiya (AS) ko na-haq qatal kertay hain aour logo ma se Insaaf ka hukam dainay waalo ko bhi qatal kertay hain unhain dardnaak azaab ki khabar suna dain." Aour Ayat no.22 ka tarjuma ha, "Aisay logo ke aamaal dunya aour ahkhirat ma berbaad ho gaiyay aour Inn ka koee madadgaar nahee". Ab jinn logo ne Allah ke Rasool(SAWW) ke khandaan ko qatal kiya, unn ke opper zulm kiya aour Hazrat Imam Hussain(AS) ke Ashaab ko bhi qatal kiya aour unn ke ooper zulm kiya to iss ayat ki roo se unn ka anjaam kya hoga. Aour jis Zaalim Mouviya ne aisay afraad ko ummat ke ooper musallat kiya uss ke baaray ma khod hi soch le.
thanx
Great Sir
A great scholar Indeed Mashaallah
Bohat mohtat and intelligent bayan
JazakAllah 🌷🌹🌺💐
Allah ❤
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Zabrdast Nice very beautiful ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ ustajh ji
Sir HADITH e AMMAR koo bhee clear kar dain please!
Previous episodes mae clear ker chukkay haen oos hadith ko.
Already done jnab
Episode 5 ka half part daikh lain.....iss hadees
Ko khool kar bayan kia hei
No they said they will discuss it in their other series ( 23 objectin and answer)
Pakistani all molvis should listen and educate themselves
Mera Swaal yeh h k Suppose krain Hazrat Ali (R.A) siffeen main shaheed ho jaty to phr Ameer shaam k is act pr ap kya khty...jese Hazrat Hussain Shaheed howie to yazeed ko blame kia jata...
I am not the one who judges remote history, as historical accounts are rarely accurate. Nevertheless, assuming the history we have is reasonably accurate, based on this account of Ghamidi sahab, it seems Hussein (ra) adopted an unopinionated position.....neither accepting, nor rejecting the de facto autocracy. Non-acceptance was probably in light of the Quranic guidance that rule should be based on consensus of muslims. Non-rejection was likely based on real-world consideration that rebellion from authority will be crushed with overwhelming force, so unless you have something to counter that force with, its non-sensical to reject authority and stand up against it. It seems the leadership at the time over-reacted in fear. Acceptance of autocratic rule would have had an immense negative consequence, it would have legitimized it.
The tragedy is that the lesson Hussein (ra) was teaching us Muslims was to uphold democratic principles in electing our leaders......that key message got lost in the emotional exploitation of that historical event.....and the entire community of Muslims is paying the price for it to this day!
Excellent analysis bro
yes u r hundred percent right
my heart become peacefully seeing this
Plz don't stop
Make 25 episode
Allah ap ki sehat mn batkat dy.....ap ko sun sun nr mn Muslaman hua hu
Lot of tanks
Allah ka shukr hai..
Allahmdullilah..
Subhanallah..
Aien waqt par Allah ne aapke ankhe Dimag Dil aur fitrat ke androni shour Ku jagaya aur aap par Sahie huqq wazie huwa..
Abb tak ke sare episode ki ghuftagoo mai aapne mauviya aur unki Hukumat ku defend karni ki koshish ki..
Lekin
Allah ka shukr hai ke aaj ke iss episode mai aapne Pehli baar thoda Bahut rujaan haqq ki Taraf kiya aur aapke followers ku ghumrah hone se bachaliya aur aane wale nasallu ku sahie Islamic history se dochar hone se bachaliya..
Yakeen hai ke Allah aap ku aage bhi haqq ki rahnomayi Karega.. aur ummeed karta hu ke aap aage bhi haqq ke Saath iss saree haqeeqi waqie-pasmanzar ku wazie karenge..
Jazakallah
Artistic the way Ghamidi sb. is able to present both extreme perspectives yet gift us listeners a ground whence we can understand, if not appreciate, either position.
I do, however, differ slightly with regard to the nature or motive of al-Husain's journey here somewhat circumspectly presented. The text of the Kufan letters in which is celebrated amīr al-mu’minīn Mu‘awiyah's death and explicit evocation towards uprising and an alternate imamate is vividly sought made the authoritative regime's work straight forward. Ibn ‘Aqeel actually accepted bay‘ah on behalf of Husain and it is said that some twelve or eighteen thousand gathered and marched with him up to the gate of the governor's palace. So we're looking at a straight up revolt, not mere relocation.
For me the tragic part of the story which remains a mystery is why was Husain never allowed to complete his redirection toward Damascus when he showed willingness to accept Yazid's authority in wake of Kufan betrayal? History books give in to oversimplification in attempting to address this question and conveniently but unsatisfactorily point the finger of blame to Ibn Ziyad.
Ghamdi sahab kya ham zalim ne nazariye se dekhna aur sochna shuru kar den? Haq kya hota fir? Haq ka taqaza kya hota hai fir ? Mulookiyat alambardar mat baniye....
Unparalleled
Bht he zabardast Ma sha Allah
سر ایک نام جناب عبداللہ بن عباس کا بھی تھا۔
how nicely, he is covering muawia and abn e ziyad.
Ghamidi sahib agar Saath Saath donon masalik ke main points Jaise ke ahadees main hai ke peghambar saw ne peshgoi ki thi ke Hussain as ko shaheed Kia Jayega Ya dusre ahadees Jin se ham log Apne moqif ki istidlal karte Hain in Ka bhi jaiza lain to hamain Apne moqif par nazar sani main asani hogi kionke is tarikh ko khalis siasi nuqta nazar se dekhna logon ke lye mushkik hai
O bhai ghamdi ki bat nahin sunni keh agli bar as ke akhlaqi aor deeni pehloo per bat ho gi
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We just listened stories about this event, now this is real history.
Very well explained
اسلام وعلیکم
Jo sawaal pujho to jawaab kuch aur hi milta hai
ماشاءاللہ جس احسن طریقہ اور پراثر انداز میں جناب غامدی صاحب نے تمام حقائق پیش کئے ان کو سلام۔۔۔اب یہ۔نئ نسل کا کام ہے کہ سوچے ۔۔کیا حالات تھے اس وقت۔۔کونسل معاشرتی نظام تھا اور اس قبائلی نظام ۔یں کس طرح فیصلے ہوتے تھے۔۔۔اور کہاں کہاں غلطیاں ہوئیں۔۔۔۔
He had many good points and had given objective analysis of history . However, I must say , it could be shorter series. There is so much repetition..
First time thinking this way of karbala event
آپ نے تو عدل انصاف کا ستیاناس کر دیا
Najaiz hakomat, najaiz Kam hi Kara ge ...
Jo hukomat islam k nizam k mutabik qaim na ho us ki atayat hum pr frz hai kidr likkha hai ye?
jhan tk m smjha Ghamid sb ki baat ko , k hukumat ki writ ko challenge mehsos hwa ar Syeda Hussain RA ny jb Madina chora tou ar Kofa ki traf rawana hye tou shyd wo apny ap ko ar apny ghr wlo ko wha Syedna Ali RA ki hmayto ki wja sy zyda mehfoz smjjh rhy thy , shyd yehe wja thi k Syedna Hussain RA uss traf rwana hye
Yes, but enemy always keep eyes and afraid, it is still being practiced in our society
Plz make full lenthg thing rather in pieces.or present it at da end in a compiled form.
Tou Agar Hakoomat ki writ ko challenge karnay k khilaf action lena chahye jesa k Hazrat Abubakar nay liay munkireen zakat k khilaf aur Aap k khayal main Hazrat Usman ko bhi ye iqdaam karna chahye tha, Tou Phir Hazrat Ali nay bhi jab baghawat k khilaf action lia to wahan apka pemana kyun badal jata ha?