& that was makes this show so great, each one of them are imperfect representations of their stereotypes. Himmel is just some rando nobody who decided to become the person who defeats the Demon King just like how a hero can be anybody. Frieren is an an unorthodox as any mage as you can get along with her sheer audacity. Heiter was an alchoholic priest sure but he saved Fern's life by taking her in as family. & Eisen is the epitomy of the phrase "Courage is not the absence of fear but being in fear & acting regardless".
I'm glad Stark didn't even try to get the sword. In addition to fitting the character better, since he doesn't think he's worthy, if he managed to get the sword it would destroy the message of Himmel's story that a hero doesn't need a magical item to say he's capable.
(Or that the real evil and calamity of the world is yet to happen and Himmel's death was the triggering effect of what is to come and the remnants of the Hero's party is what might have a fighting chance to stop what is to come, Fern and Stark being the chosen kids to save all.) That's my crackhead theory
@@KuroiHoshiV I swear I hope the story of the sword is never mentioned again, I prefer the idea that the great evil was defeated with effort and determination. But if this sword reappears I would like it to be picked up by a random character and shown to be useless.
@danreis2434 I'd personally love it if the sword comes back. I don't think it'd discount Himmel's journey because he literally succeeded. If the sword is legit, I think it'd emphasize it even more, since it'll be confirmed that the sword and the legend are real, but someone completely unrelated managed to save the world.
Stark staring at the sword all by himself is up there as one of the few additions the anime staff made that I didn't like. None of this was in the manga, but after this episode everyone started believing in the theory that Stark is suddenly the chosen hero who's gonna pick up the sword in the future (even though Stark is a warrior, not a hero, and yes.. hero IS a class in Frieren. 勇者 - Yuusha, the hero is a character class in Dragon quest, y'all can search for it).
Man I love the writing in this show. I love that the Hamburg steak part. Somehow they made Hamburg steak relate to FOUR different sets of characters and each of them telling a different story that shows you more about the characters. Eisen cooking for Himmel/Frieren/Heiter. Eisen cooking for Stark. Stoltz cooking for Stark and Frieren cooking for Stark. Each of them beautiful in their own rights.
4:40 Oh no, I completely understand! I too got teary eyed, and felt chills with this short yet beautiful scene! There’s something about it, that just made me feel bittersweet 😭
the shot of the flashback of his brother indirectly telling him he is a warrior telling him to escape and transitioning from stoltz to stark almost looking like a passing of the torch is so beautiful
Maybe, but I think he thought of his brother because he also used to wield a sword. One thing that a lot of people seem to miss is the fact that "the hero" is a class in Frieren just like the mages, the warriors, the priests and such.. and there's TWO different ways to say "hero" in japanese which is kinda lost in translation... Eiyuu and Yuusha. The first one seems to be used for those who accomplished grand heroic deeds, the second one seems to be used for those who identify as heroes (the class). Stark's brother was a warrior (class), so there's this differance.
Hmm yeah its plausible but let me correct myself. I actually think "pulling the sword" is just a concept of someone very heroic or having heroism in them. The conversation about Himmels story going into the aspects of heroism and being one without being linked or chosen makes me think that the reason stark thought of his brother while looking at the sword is because Stoltz is a hero to Stark by defending him and his home without second thoughts and in contrast Stark is someone who thinks he isn't capable of all that but can be seen showing signs of it. Which is why i think the scene where they fade into one another is so beautiful. Stark can be a real fake hero too, despite the warrior class just as Eisen said "everyone who works hard is a warrior" and imo anyone who shows bravery and compassion can be a hero.
What is amazing is that we see Himmel from Frieren's point of view, and we see that in reality, Himmel is greater than any fake stories they could create in an attempt to enhance his legend. A legitimate, amazing hero.
Nonsense, he's a superior fake. Nothing says a fake can't be better than the real thing. This message is brought to you by the People Die When They Are Killed Foundation.
Later in the story, Wirbel also said so as well. People like him and his village don’t care about epic heroic deed he did but they know how he helps them with the wagon, how he chases monster away, how he helps on the farm.
I love how they portray trauma. Stark was so caught up with his trauma of running away and being a failure that he forgot the kindness of his brother and his master. But Fern and Frieren helped him to remember those moments of kindness which is nice. It do be like that most of the time.
I just want to say I love watching shows with you guys so much. You guys notice stuff I didn't catch during my first watch. I don't get that same level of insight as much as in other reactions, at least not as consistently. Truly my favorite reactors.
Himmel's word "There's nothing wrong with being a fake hero. (continued)" was spoken with a sense of frustration and determination. The whole work, including the voice actors, is perfect.
I really really wish Stark's brother somehow is still alive and maybe someday they'll meet again and how he gonna be so proud of what Stark has become 😭🥺
i think stark felt the sword history like accepting failure , the hero wasn't perfect he fail too but he didn't let it define him , this anime is just amazing
I chuckled a little when you called the towns name something like "Auburst" 😊 It's written "Äußerst", which means extremely or most (far away) in english and would be pronounced something like "oy-sehrst" in german. But, another absolute highlight episode to get emotional about a REAL hero and Starks background 🥰
There is a German TH-camr, Storieswithstyle, who has a lovely video going into the names (people, places, spells) used in the anime up to episode 16. It is very much worth watching, and each name is timestamped. I'm not sure how much use this would be to you, but you are clearly interested in the naming so...
@@ObiwanNekody thanks, I've seen a few videos of him. Although, as a german myself, I also know the names in the show well, as those are all common words in german. It's often quite funny to hear a new characters or towns name and think how did they come up with this 🙂 Because sometimes it makes sense, sometimes it seems just random.
34:38 "I'm hella grateful" from "マジ感謝" (maji kansha) is casual way to express gratitude in Japanese. "マジ" (maji) is a colloquial term meaning "seriously" or "for real," and "感謝" (kansha) means "gratitude." So, "マジ感謝" conveys a sense of sincere and genuine appreciation in a casual manner.
I've seen some terrible translations for this and other anime & foreign shows & movies before, so I'm very grateful for proper translation efforts that also convey the meaning as well and not just some raw machine like translation.
Stark’s brother desiring to save his brother, unintentionally put a curse on him. That curse being that survival is running which is why he’s a brave coward.
Himmel didn't need to be the chosen one to be a hero, he didn't need a Deus Ex Machina to defeat the Demon King, and he didn't need a magical destiny to be a good person. All he ever needed was a desire to help others and some good friends. I think that's all any of us really need to be real heroes. Even if none of us do anything as grand as bringing "peace to the realm," every single one of us can be someone else's hero and change their life for the better in even the smallest acts of kindness. You don't need to be someone special to be special to someone.
Yep, that’s what LoTR also told us as well. That’s why this show is so special because it’s like a love letter to an older and more classic fantasy rather than the modern one.
The fact that the sword is still in the stone makes me wonder if that's a set up for a future storyline when a new enemy appears, one worse than the Demon King.
7:50 That trust in her kids. She didn't even flinch. :) 9:10 And the sword is likely the same, since the show loves to play with parallels so much. It's a relic of a forgotten era, now nothing more but a rusty old sword that's stuck in a stone, but people fabricated this romanticized legend around it. 10:45 And the first episode, after Himmel's funeral. 27:37 Misdirection? You don't want to spoil things with what you show in the openings so you put them in scenes that are not part of the show. Otherwise we'd see a desert in the show and immediately think this is when this character should appear. This episode with Stark's backstory is such a backstabbing emotional surprise hit though. I did not expected it to be this tragic and sad, which hurts even more since by now you know how pure of a character he is as well. Being this hard on himself for "abandoning" his village and seeing himself as a failure, even though he was just a little baby. Or thinking he never received any birthday presents to realizing that Stoltz (which should've been Stolz) and Eisen actually did gift him something. I also love how it is not just Frieren who has those retrospective realizations. I love his character, which is rare because most male characters I just can't relate to at all but he is, just like Frieren as well, such an endearing character. Btw, German "St" is pronounced with the German "Sch" which is close to the English "Sh".
@@ObiwanNekody Aside from the elven lifespan it feels more like D&D than LotR, since it is very gamified. Record of Lodoss War was much more classic fantasy.
This episode fucking killed me dude. I'm a 28 year old man and this show just constantly punches me in the gut with this stuff. Also i may be wrong especially since I'v only watched up to this point but i think when they asked why they didn't just ask adventurers to kill the monsters and they said it was because Himmel was the hero might be because I imagine the Sword in the Stone attracted many adventurers to the village before but since most people think Himmel actually already pulled it from the stone adventurers probably see no point in traveling there anymore, especially since the village is in such a remote and dangerous location. So they haven't asked any adventurers because there's no adventurers to ask.
I couldn’t help but be reminded of Rengoku stooping down to help Tanjiro stop his internal bleeding when Stark’s brother stooped down, in the mud puddles, to assist him in his training.
There is a German TH-camr, Storieswithstyle, who has a lovely video going into the names (people, places, spells) used in the anime up to episode 16. It is very much worth watching, and each name is timestamped.
@@Earthz1412 äu is absolutely not spelled like au. Generally, no Umlaut is pronounced like the base letters they come from. I have no idea how to explain how to pronounce it in English but I've not seen anyone get it right either. Here's a proper pronunciation video though: /watch?v=geR51EEBbk4 That being said, as much as I hate how much this and other anime butcher the German language, the VA's here did actually a half decent job at pronouncing most words somewhat decently. So being observant enough to the audio should help at least a little bit and would be much closer than the terrible English pronunciations that we hear.
As I understand it Äußerst is pronounced something like Oysserst. ß is not a B, it's a sharp s; it helps if you think about it as a ligature of ſs, ſ being the old long s that used to be placed at the start of words or as the first of an ss pair; ss → ſs → ß. Unlike B, the ß in Äußerst isn't even a capital letter; the capital form ẞ wasn't officially adopted (and as a variant at that) until 2017, though it'd been in unicode since 2008.
There is a German TH-camr, Storieswithstyle, who has a lovely video going into the names (people, places, spells) used in the anime up to episode 16. It is very much worth watching, and each name is timestamped.
There is a German TH-camr, Storieswithstyle, who has a lovely video giving an analysis of the names(character, location, and spell) as they appear in the anime up to episode 16. It is very much worth watching, and I would love to hear your thoughts on his analysis of the names. (The names in Frieren are almost all German words). I wouldn't recommend watching it before reaching episode 16 as it does contain spoilers.
You guys have been such a consistently nice reaction channel. I am so eager to see Mushoku S2 part 2, and seeing Frieren is just as nice. You guys feel like friends I'm showing the show to, even though I don't have any friends who care about anime in reality. :p
It fits with the prophesy of the sword too. Himmel and his party were able to defeat the demon lord/king without the sword. Meaning it wasn’t needed. Therefore the demon lord/king wasn’t a “world ending calamity.”
With how peak the wriiting is i just want to mention how unessaryly hard the animation went when friren went to get potion was her level of exititment could be felt through the screen
First of all, I don't understand English, so I'm sorry if my English is a little weird. I love the reactions of both of you. Stark and Fern are such a great couple. I want to see Stark and Fern get married. And Stark's sad past was revealed. But Eisen made Stark a hamburger for his birthday. Stark's brother also made hamburgers for his birthday, just like Eisen. Stark's older brother was a kind and good man. At the end, the punch line is that there is a medicine left that dissolves clothes. His was a good story that made me laugh and cry.
I really think you'd be the right people to react to an anime called Mushishi. It has 2 seasons. It's a bit older but it has aged exceptionally well. If you haven't watched it already I'd appreciate it if you put it in a poll at least, next time you do a poll.
The legend doesn't specify *which* calamity the Hero's Sword is meant for. I'm sure every generation assumes that it's supposed to be used to solve whatever the biggest threat of the day is.
An interpretation I like, is that the sword is a test. If you give up cause the sword didn’t choose you then you wouldn’t have been able to accomplish a goal like defeating the demon king, however if despite the rejection of predestined power you persevere, then you are a true hero.
You may find interesting to know that the translator omitted to mention the fact that the sword was put there by the Goddess, according to the legend. Fake hero or not, none of Himmel's companions decided to stop following him. Even without the sword, they still think he can succeed. They have faith in him, not the sword. For me, this episode serves two purposes in explaining the show to the audience : - first : what is a true "hero" ? Someone prophetized so - or someone who acts like one ? This a theme that will come back again and again in the future, though in often less obvious ways. - Second : people believe what they're told, not the facts they can see. Himmel defeated the demon king while wearing a fake sword. But if it was known, people would think less of him - because he did not pull the sword, rather than be amazed that he won even without it. The "pulling the sword" incident is more important than Himmel's actions. The idea that "people" judge others not on their actions, but on what they've been told, or other assumptions, is central to the way the show is told. Demons use words to incite their victims to make wrong assumptions about them. Frieren does the same with mana - and hiding her history. And the show does it with nearly everything... Stoltz is introduced by his father as a proud warrior who would treat Stark badly. But the truth - that he hides from the village - is different. Very small spoiler for season 2 (or 3 ?) : not only is the sword a replica - it was a decorative sword meant to be put on a wall, and not to be used in any kind of fight. And it is the only sword Himmel ever used... What a man. I have always wondered if Frieren's "duty" may have preceded Himmel's trip to the village... What if she had been here before, killing monsters every fifty years ? I have nothing to prove or disprove it though. Just the feeling that it seems the village is used to her visits. Also : the prophecy is that the sword will help to save the world. Maybe defeating the demon King was not the "save the world" moment the sword is meant for... it is meant to be a tool, not a way to evaluate the worthiness of someone. But humans always want to evaluate and compare people - like demons with their mana. Stark didn't remember his birthday. Same thing for Fern in episode 3. The person who remembers birthdays is Frieren. She also remembers her "appointments": the village of the sword, Qual, the meteor shower... She may be an elf, but she is very aware of the passage of time. and of how important an occasion a birthday is. And that they are opportunity to make people happy and emotional, something we learned in episode 3 is important to her. Frieren wanted to gift Stark a potion that dissolves clothing - a potion that exposes what people don't want to show, in a way. She ends up explaining to him the true meaning of the steak - "exposing" the true feelings of Eisen and Stoltz. The "naked truth". I think "clothes" are, in the symbolic language of the show, a metaphor for "lies" or "masks". Frieren collects ways to see beyond appearances. Fern is a teenager. She lived most of her life with people who were both a lot older than her, and a lot less "responsible". She is now travelling with a boy her age, and has no idea how to deal with the fact that her feelings are very aware he is a male... So she defends herself against the perv ideas she may have in the back or her mind (and rejects) by being very suspicious of Stark. But she is the one who looked at Stark's naked body - and who used the cloth dissolving potion on another person. Great reaction as always, thanks !
The Lady of the Lake is the sword's gatekeeper in Arthurian legend. We know Frieren is an unlicensed mage bc she's too long-lived for convention. Frieren is like Himmel's Lady of the Lake and Merlin combined. There would have been an arc we don't see of Himmel coming to grips with failure to pull the sword. Himmel is not a Christ figure, he wasn't idealized, he was vain, filled with ambition, and would have needed the same guidance that Stark got to come to the conclusion that you DON'T need gatekeepers to allow you to do Good. And to measure yourself internally rather than externally - symbolized by Stoltz kneeling in the mud and getting dirty. This is very mature writing.
This is just my insight about the sword being protected. Is that the sword isn't just being protected from monsters but also, the sword along with its truth, being protected from adventurers and people outside the village and that's where frieren comes in, her task of exterminating the monsters every half a century so that they wouldn't need to hire adventurers or having adventurers coming to the village to help exterminating monsters that is surrounding the sword, all to keep the truth and HIMmel's honor be preserved. This might be obvious to some but I just like the thought of it that I wanna tell it to y'all😊. (Sorry for my grammar, I know that it's all over the place😅)
You may have already figured this out by now. The "ß" character is not a "b". It's known as an Esszet, and is basically a substitute for "ss" in certain words. It's not generally used anymore, but you'll still come across it. The diphthong Äu is pronounced like "oy"as in "oyster". So the name Äußerst sounds like "oy-sairst", without a rhotic "r" in the second syllable.
One note, I'd been learning German for so many years that even though I'm only B1 at it it's kinda grating to hear such fun people as you say it so wrong, so lemme tell you...Außerst... This letter - ß - it's German and is read as 'ss'. Just FYI.😊
There is a German TH-camr, Storieswithstyle, who has a lovely video going into the names (people, places, spells) used in the anime up to episode 16. It is very much worth watching, and each name is timestamped.
"ß" is pretty much the only thing I know about German and it's still kind of funny to hear people read it as a b. I actually thought it was a B when I saw it on the map but realised it was a ß when I saw it in the subtitles because the font was clearer.
The heros sword, it might have already been pulled and used in the past, or the calamity that needs the sword have not yet appered, since the demon king was around for so long, so it was most likely not a world ending calamity like the sword is meant to be used ageinst.
Here’s a grim thought. If the sword is supposed to be used to destroy a calamity that’ll destroy the world, maybe that calamity wasn’t the Demon King and still has to appear
There is a German TH-camr, Storieswithstyle, who has a lovely video going into the names (people, places, spells) used in the anime up to episode 16. It is very much worth watching, and each name is timestamped.
待っていました！ I have thought before their popular 1~4special reaction, this work should be fit absolutely for AutoSave. The "葬送の(funeral)Frieren" ’s evaluation shall be completed by the best two anime-love-reviewers of TH-cam. At least, they are the best for this work😊 Getting the context clue by small details is especially needed,but, that's what AutoSave is always doing very well, so they can develop its emotions, making, and motif(←for now…for originnal is still 125epi😅)…etc. Anyway, glad for the best review, as R&S:0 and Mado☆Magi.( I will watch others… later…havn‘t seen vs boys or some. m(_ _;)m) predictの能力は…最早ちょっと怖い^^;
There is a German TH-camr, Storieswithstyle, who has a lovely video going into the names (people, places, spells) used in the anime up to episode 16. It is very much worth watching, and each name is timestamped.
Moin Ben :) Auberst ? The hurts german ears, sorry. The " ß " is not a b-sound and " Ä " is not an A-sound. " ß " is more like a very sharp " z " and " Ä " well I do not know which aound it is in englisch. Maybe you check Google translator, the speaker function. Sorry for this critic, no offense. :) CYA ;)
my dudes there is no B in Äusserst. ur also mispronouncing the initial vowel sound but i cant even begin to explain how to do it XD anyways, that B-lookin symbol means double s.
Tears... So great how they use the flashbacks to show how they influence the present. It's like LOST in a way. But more wholesome. And since Himmel couldn't pull out the sword to defeat a great calamity that's bent on destroying the world.... there must be something else coming...
I don't know a lot about the nuances of the Japanese language, but does the fact that Stark calls Stoltz "anniki" instead of "onii-san" say anything about their relatedness? Or are the two terms interchangeable?
Sorry, I am not good at English. Aniki (兄貴／アニキ) is an honorific term, It is not every situation use this word. typically, is reserved for addressing someone you respect, who is also elder than you. Onii-san is Informal word, can be used in many situations, the use of "onii-san" and "onee-san" to refer to others who are slightly older than them is a part of the language and culture. These terms are used to show respect and politeness towards older individuals, and they are commonly used to address not only siblings but also older friends, acquaintances, or even strangers in certain contexts.
Hello😊 I am Japanese.I'm sorry for my bad English. ”onii-san(お兄さん)”、”onii-chan(お兄ちゃん)”、and ”a-ni-ki(兄貴)” generally refer to an older brother. "onii-san" is a more polite expression than "a-ni-ki". This is the spoken language of everyday conversation. “onii-san” and “onii-chan” are words that are not rude when used towards anyone, from children to the elderly. This is because it is a familiar word used in every household. On the other hand, "a-ni-ki" (兄貴) can also be used when there is a master-servant relationship or an absolute hierarchical relationship. Therefore, it is not a word that can be used against anyone. Stark and Stoltz are purely blood brothers, so "a-ni-ki" is used interchangeably with "onii-san".
How come you dont think of the most obvious sentiment of the episode? "a real hero" - what is a real hero? Does some legendary sword make you the hero? Or shouldbit be wise-versa person who becomes a hero makes his every (even a replica) sword "a hero's sword"? Does pulling some piece of metal out of a rock make you a hero, or is it how you act (help with the carrage, play with children, helping villagers, cprotecting them against a dragon etc.) like Stark in the second half of the episode. Usually both halfs of Frieren's episodes have a connecting sub plot, but no reactors pick up on that
the director is doing a very very amazing job, the pacing is perfect. if you dont notice, other than some early episode, every episode end with good note, it makes you feels good waiting for next episode, you're waiting for next episode with good hope. the director nails the framing of each episode perfectly! and... what Frieren wears, doesn't it looks like chef's uniform?
A fake hero
A disgraceful mage
A cowardly warrior
And a corrupt priest
The party that defeated the demon king
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Wow I've never thought of this
& that was makes this show so great, each one of them are imperfect representations of their stereotypes. Himmel is just some rando nobody who decided to become the person who defeats the Demon King just like how a hero can be anybody. Frieren is an an unorthodox as any mage as you can get along with her sheer audacity. Heiter was an alchoholic priest sure but he saved Fern's life by taking her in as family. & Eisen is the epitomy of the phrase "Courage is not the absence of fear but being in fear & acting regardless".
I'm glad Stark didn't even try to get the sword. In addition to fitting the character better, since he doesn't think he's worthy, if he managed to get the sword it would destroy the message of Himmel's story that a hero doesn't need a magical item to say he's capable.
(Or that the real evil and calamity of the world is yet to happen and Himmel's death was the triggering effect of what is to come and the remnants of the Hero's party is what might have a fighting chance to stop what is to come, Fern and Stark being the chosen kids to save all.)
That's my crackhead theory
@@KuroiHoshiV I swear I hope the story of the sword is never mentioned again, I prefer the idea that the great evil was defeated with effort and determination. But if this sword reappears I would like it to be picked up by a random character and shown to be useless.
@@danreis2434Agreed. We have too many stories with chosen ones using spécial ultimate weapons to vanquish the ultimate evil.
@danreis2434 I'd personally love it if the sword comes back. I don't think it'd discount Himmel's journey because he literally succeeded. If the sword is legit, I think it'd emphasize it even more, since it'll be confirmed that the sword and the legend are real, but someone completely unrelated managed to save the world.
Stark staring at the sword all by himself is up there as one of the few additions the anime staff made that I didn't like. None of this was in the manga, but after this episode everyone started believing in the theory that Stark is suddenly the chosen hero who's gonna pick up the sword in the future (even though Stark is a warrior, not a hero, and yes.. hero IS a class in Frieren. 勇者 - Yuusha, the hero is a character class in Dragon quest, y'all can search for it).
Man I love the writing in this show. I love that the Hamburg steak part. Somehow they made Hamburg steak relate to FOUR different sets of characters and each of them telling a different story that shows you more about the characters. Eisen cooking for Himmel/Frieren/Heiter. Eisen cooking for Stark. Stoltz cooking for Stark and Frieren cooking for Stark. Each of them beautiful in their own rights.
The Village Chief standing on tip toes to get height was adorable.
I've only known Stoltz for like 3 mins and they already have me crying for him. This anime is something special
It really is, isn't it?
4:40
Oh no, I completely understand! I too got teary eyed, and felt chills with this short yet beautiful scene! There’s something about it, that just made me feel bittersweet 😭
Stark probably thought of his brother as someone who can pull the sword (a real hero) and he himself as someone not worthy of it (fake hero) imo
the shot of the flashback of his brother indirectly telling him he is a warrior telling him to escape and transitioning from stoltz to stark almost looking like a passing of the torch is so beautiful
Maybe, but I think he thought of his brother because he also used to wield a sword. One thing that a lot of people seem to miss is the fact that "the hero" is a class in Frieren just like the mages, the warriors, the priests and such.. and there's TWO different ways to say "hero" in japanese which is kinda lost in translation... Eiyuu and Yuusha. The first one seems to be used for those who accomplished grand heroic deeds, the second one seems to be used for those who identify as heroes (the class). Stark's brother was a warrior (class), so there's this differance.
Hmm yeah its plausible but let me correct myself. I actually think "pulling the sword" is just a concept of someone very heroic or having heroism in them. The conversation about Himmels story going into the aspects of heroism and being one without being linked or chosen makes me think that the reason stark thought of his brother while looking at the sword is because Stoltz is a hero to Stark by defending him and his home without second thoughts and in contrast Stark is someone who thinks he isn't capable of all that but can be seen showing signs of it. Which is why i think the scene where they fade into one another is so beautiful. Stark can be a real fake hero too, despite the warrior class just as Eisen said "everyone who works hard is a warrior" and imo anyone who shows bravery and compassion can be a hero.
@@Summer2shura agreed, the classes don't hold such relevance in the way characters behave in the story, so I do take it as a simbolic scene.
Nothing says a fake can't be better than the real thing. This message is brought to you by the People Die When They Are Killed Foundation.
What is amazing is that we see Himmel from Frieren's point of view, and we see that in reality, Himmel is greater than any fake stories they could create in an attempt to enhance his legend. A legitimate, amazing hero.
Nonsense, he's a superior fake. Nothing says a fake can't be better than the real thing. This message is brought to you by the People Die When They Are Killed Foundation.
Later in the story, Wirbel also said so as well. People like him and his village don’t care about epic heroic deed he did but they know how he helps them with the wagon, how he chases monster away, how he helps on the farm.
I love how they portray trauma. Stark was so caught up with his trauma of running away and being a failure that he forgot the kindness of his brother and his master. But Fern and Frieren helped him to remember those moments of kindness which is nice. It do be like that most of the time.
I just want to say I love watching shows with you guys so much. You guys notice stuff I didn't catch during my first watch. I don't get that same level of insight as much as in other reactions, at least not as consistently. Truly my favorite reactors.
Himmel's word "There's nothing wrong with being a fake hero. (continued)" was spoken with a sense of frustration and determination.
The whole work, including the voice actors, is perfect.
I really really wish Stark's brother somehow is still alive and maybe someday they'll meet again and how he gonna be so proud of what Stark has become 😭🥺
Maybe Stark will meet his brother in Heaven
@@arvinsim noooo 😭😭 but yeah there's a possibility
@@arvinsim you wound me T-T
@@arvinsim The most likely scenario imo. Unless they'll go for Eisen dying during their journey. But I'm sure all four of them will see someone there.
i think stark felt the sword history like accepting failure , the hero wasn't perfect he fail too but he didn't let it define him , this anime is just amazing
I chuckled a little when you called the towns name something like "Auburst" 😊
It's written "Äußerst", which means extremely or most (far away) in english and would be pronounced something like "oy-sehrst" in german.
But, another absolute highlight episode to get emotional about a REAL hero and Starks background 🥰
There is a German TH-camr, Storieswithstyle, who has a lovely video going into the names (people, places, spells) used in the anime up to episode 16. It is very much worth watching, and each name is timestamped. I'm not sure how much use this would be to you, but you are clearly interested in the naming so...
@@ObiwanNekody thanks, I've seen a few videos of him.
Although, as a german myself, I also know the names in the show well, as those are all common words in german.
It's often quite funny to hear a new characters or towns name and think how did they come up with this 🙂
Because sometimes it makes sense, sometimes it seems just random.
34:38 "I'm hella grateful" from "マジ感謝" (maji kansha) is casual way to express gratitude in Japanese. "マジ" (maji) is a colloquial term meaning "seriously" or "for real," and "感謝" (kansha) means "gratitude." So, "マジ感謝" conveys a sense of sincere and genuine appreciation in a casual manner.
I've seen some terrible translations for this and other anime & foreign shows & movies before, so I'm very grateful for proper translation efforts that also convey the meaning as well and not just some raw machine like translation.
Fern is projecting her perviness onto Stark!
Regarding the ring, if you watch back to ep1 it was the same ring Frieren was looking at after Himmel's death.
Can't wait for episode 15. The way 12 and 15 are tied is just genius writing and crazy character moments
Stark’s brother desiring to save his brother, unintentionally put a curse on him.
That curse being that survival is running which is why he’s a brave coward.
This is probably my favourite episode of the series so far.
It really hit for me
Loved this episode a lot. One of the several Frieren episodes where I teared up a lot
Himmel didn't need to be the chosen one to be a hero, he didn't need a Deus Ex Machina to defeat the Demon King, and he didn't need a magical destiny to be a good person. All he ever needed was a desire to help others and some good friends. I think that's all any of us really need to be real heroes. Even if none of us do anything as grand as bringing "peace to the realm," every single one of us can be someone else's hero and change their life for the better in even the smallest acts of kindness. You don't need to be someone special to be special to someone.
Yep, that’s what LoTR also told us as well. That’s why this show is so special because it’s like a love letter to an older and more classic fantasy rather than the modern one.
The fact that the sword is still in the stone makes me wonder if that's a set up for a future storyline when a new enemy appears, one worse than the Demon King.
7:50 That trust in her kids. She didn't even flinch. :)
9:10 And the sword is likely the same, since the show loves to play with parallels so much. It's a relic of a forgotten era, now nothing more but a rusty old sword that's stuck in a stone, but people fabricated this romanticized legend around it.
10:45 And the first episode, after Himmel's funeral.
27:37 Misdirection? You don't want to spoil things with what you show in the openings so you put them in scenes that are not part of the show. Otherwise we'd see a desert in the show and immediately think this is when this character should appear.
This episode with Stark's backstory is such a backstabbing emotional surprise hit though. I did not expected it to be this tragic and sad, which hurts even more since by now you know how pure of a character he is as well. Being this hard on himself for "abandoning" his village and seeing himself as a failure, even though he was just a little baby. Or thinking he never received any birthday presents to realizing that Stoltz (which should've been Stolz) and Eisen actually did gift him something. I also love how it is not just Frieren who has those retrospective realizations. I love his character, which is rare because most male characters I just can't relate to at all but he is, just like Frieren as well, such an endearing character.
Btw, German "St" is pronounced with the German "Sch" which is close to the English "Sh".
Anna being into the Stark Fern Agenda. I liiive ❤❤😂😂
I'm surprised he thought that Fern was older than Stark. She's very teenager-ish.
Best show this season,
One of the Best Fantasy(not among anime) I hv seen since LOTR. It has so much Tolkien feel to it.
I also think that Frieren is one of the best successors to the LOTR Fantasy if not the best. Honestly I'm hard pressed to think of many contenders.
@@ObiwanNekody Aside from the elven lifespan it feels more like D&D than LotR, since it is very gamified. Record of Lodoss War was much more classic fantasy.
This episode fucking killed me dude. I'm a 28 year old man and this show just constantly punches me in the gut with this stuff. Also i may be wrong especially since I'v only watched up to this point but i think when they asked why they didn't just ask adventurers to kill the monsters and they said it was because Himmel was the hero might be because I imagine the Sword in the Stone attracted many adventurers to the village before but since most people think Himmel actually already pulled it from the stone adventurers probably see no point in traveling there anymore, especially since the village is in such a remote and dangerous location. So they haven't asked any adventurers because there's no adventurers to ask.
Your take on her suitcase is amazing.
Fern is the real perv in the series 😂
Indeed
This is the episode that made me cry
I couldn’t help but be reminded of Rengoku stooping down to help Tanjiro stop his internal bleeding when Stark’s brother stooped down, in the mud puddles, to assist him in his training.
Btw, ß is an s/z-ish sound, so the town is pronounced more like Auzhurst rather than Aubhurst.
According to online pronunciation things, it's more like "ice-hurst"
@@Kaylakaze in deutch au spelled the same. eu spelled oi, ei spelled ai
There is a German TH-camr, Storieswithstyle, who has a lovely video going into the names (people, places, spells) used in the anime up to episode 16. It is very much worth watching, and each name is timestamped.
@@Earthz1412 äu is absolutely not spelled like au. Generally, no Umlaut is pronounced like the base letters they come from. I have no idea how to explain how to pronounce it in English but I've not seen anyone get it right either. Here's a proper pronunciation video though: /watch?v=geR51EEBbk4
That being said, as much as I hate how much this and other anime butcher the German language, the VA's here did actually a half decent job at pronouncing most words somewhat decently. So being observant enough to the audio should help at least a little bit and would be much closer than the terrible English pronunciations that we hear.
As I understand it Äußerst is pronounced something like Oysserst.
ß is not a B, it's a sharp s; it helps if you think about it as a ligature of ſs, ſ being the old long s that used to be placed at the start of words or as the first of an ss pair; ss → ſs → ß.
Unlike B, the ß in Äußerst isn't even a capital letter; the capital form ẞ wasn't officially adopted (and as a variant at that) until 2017, though it'd been in unicode since 2008.
There is a German TH-camr, Storieswithstyle, who has a lovely video going into the names (people, places, spells) used in the anime up to episode 16. It is very much worth watching, and each name is timestamped.
There is a German TH-camr, Storieswithstyle, who has a lovely video giving an analysis of the names(character, location, and spell) as they appear in the anime up to episode 16. It is very much worth watching, and I would love to hear your thoughts on his analysis of the names. (The names in Frieren are almost all German words). I wouldn't recommend watching it before reaching episode 16 as it does contain spoilers.
Visiting the Vault every so often is definitely a good idea. 👍
You guys have been such a consistently nice reaction channel. I am so eager to see Mushoku S2 part 2, and seeing Frieren is just as nice. You guys feel like friends I'm showing the show to, even though I don't have any friends who care about anime in reality. :p
I hope you manage to find some :). Lots of public libraries, colleges, and game stores have anime fan groups. Your mileage may vary tho.
Everyone who works hard is a warrior.
You guys are my favorite reactor I always waiting your new upload about Frieren. Keep it up!
Never noticed it before: The subs actually misspelled Stark´s brothers name. It´s Stolz, not Stoltz.
28:49 There is a theory that maybe the Demon King is not the calamity that will destroy the world in the legend. That something big is still coming.
It fits with the prophesy of the sword too. Himmel and his party were able to defeat the demon lord/king without the sword. Meaning it wasn’t needed. Therefore the demon lord/king wasn’t a “world ending calamity.”
If you are caught up in the Manga there is more support for that theory. Serie is likely to get to have some real fun.
@@ObiwanNekody i am still at the el dorado arc... 😊 It's awesome!
With how peak the wriiting is i just want to mention how unessaryly hard the animation went when friren went to get potion was her level of exititment could be felt through the screen
Can't spell Himmel without HIM.
First of all, I don't understand English, so I'm sorry if my English is a little weird.
I love the reactions of both of you.
Stark and Fern are such a great couple. I want to see Stark and Fern get married.
And Stark's sad past was revealed.
But Eisen made Stark a hamburger for his birthday.
Stark's brother also made hamburgers for his birthday, just like Eisen.
Stark's older brother was a kind and good man.
At the end, the punch line is that there is a medicine left that dissolves clothes.
His was a good story that made me laugh and cry.
Your English is pretty good.
@@ObiwanNekody Thank you.
I really think you'd be the right people to react to an anime called Mushishi. It has 2 seasons. It's a bit older but it has aged exceptionally well. If you haven't watched it already I'd appreciate it if you put it in a poll at least, next time you do a poll.
That's a really good and underrated one.
The legend doesn't specify *which* calamity the Hero's Sword is meant for. I'm sure every generation assumes that it's supposed to be used to solve whatever the biggest threat of the day is.
Not sure if you guys noticed, but Stolz's voice actor is Takuya Eguchi aka Loid from Spy x Family!
Glad im not the only one who cried at that story.
Yall have the best reactions fr
An interpretation I like, is that the sword is a test. If you give up cause the sword didn’t choose you then you wouldn’t have been able to accomplish a goal like defeating the demon king, however if despite the rejection of predestined power you persevere, then you are a true hero.
シュタルクの兄がカッコ良すぎる。声もいい。
One of my favorite episode ❤.
Love your discussions you two
Been loving these reactions
Fern's projecting that ecchi-brain
This episode made me sob several times.😢
You may find interesting to know that the translator omitted to mention the fact that the sword was put there by the Goddess, according to the legend.
Fake hero or not, none of Himmel's companions decided to stop following him. Even without the sword, they still think he can succeed. They have faith in him, not the sword.
For me, this episode serves two purposes in explaining the show to the audience :
- first : what is a true "hero" ? Someone prophetized so - or someone who acts like one ? This a theme that will come back again and again in the future, though in often less obvious ways.
- Second : people believe what they're told, not the facts they can see. Himmel defeated the demon king while wearing a fake sword. But if it was known, people would think less of him - because he did not pull the sword, rather than be amazed that he won even without it. The "pulling the sword" incident is more important than Himmel's actions. The idea that "people" judge others not on their actions, but on what they've been told, or other assumptions, is central to the way the show is told. Demons use words to incite their victims to make wrong assumptions about them. Frieren does the same with mana - and hiding her history. And the show does it with nearly everything... Stoltz is introduced by his father as a proud warrior who would treat Stark badly. But the truth - that he hides from the village - is different.
Very small spoiler for season 2 (or 3 ?) : not only is the sword a replica - it was a decorative sword meant to be put on a wall, and not to be used in any kind of fight. And it is the only sword Himmel ever used... What a man.
I have always wondered if Frieren's "duty" may have preceded Himmel's trip to the village... What if she had been here before, killing monsters every fifty years ? I have nothing to prove or disprove it though. Just the feeling that it seems the village is used to her visits.
Also : the prophecy is that the sword will help to save the world. Maybe defeating the demon King was not the "save the world" moment the sword is meant for... it is meant to be a tool, not a way to evaluate the worthiness of someone. But humans always want to evaluate and compare people - like demons with their mana.
Stark didn't remember his birthday. Same thing for Fern in episode 3. The person who remembers birthdays is Frieren. She also remembers her "appointments": the village of the sword, Qual, the meteor shower... She may be an elf, but she is very aware of the passage of time. and of how important an occasion a birthday is. And that they are opportunity to make people happy and emotional, something we learned in episode 3 is important to her.
Frieren wanted to gift Stark a potion that dissolves clothing - a potion that exposes what people don't want to show, in a way. She ends up explaining to him the true meaning of the steak - "exposing" the true feelings of Eisen and Stoltz. The "naked truth".
I think "clothes" are, in the symbolic language of the show, a metaphor for "lies" or "masks". Frieren collects ways to see beyond appearances.
Fern is a teenager. She lived most of her life with people who were both a lot older than her, and a lot less "responsible". She is now travelling with a boy her age, and has no idea how to deal with the fact that her feelings are very aware he is a male... So she defends herself against the perv ideas she may have in the back or her mind (and rejects) by being very suspicious of Stark. But she is the one who looked at Stark's naked body - and who used the cloth dissolving potion on another person.
Great reaction as always, thanks !
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Clearly the sword is reserved for Gorilla Warrior. Only he is worthy.
The Lady of the Lake is the sword's gatekeeper in Arthurian legend. We know Frieren is an unlicensed mage bc she's too long-lived for convention. Frieren is like Himmel's Lady of the Lake and Merlin combined. There would have been an arc we don't see of Himmel coming to grips with failure to pull the sword. Himmel is not a Christ figure, he wasn't idealized, he was vain, filled with ambition, and would have needed the same guidance that Stark got to come to the conclusion that you DON'T need gatekeepers to allow you to do Good. And to measure yourself internally rather than externally - symbolized by Stoltz kneeling in the mud and getting dirty. This is very mature writing.
The way they pronounce the german words like Äußerst is priceless
Frieren party are relatable & awesome
A 'fake' hero
A 'corrupt' priest
A 'coward' warrior and
A 'disgrace' mage
But they defeat the Demon King🔥🔥🔥
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シュタルクの兄はロイドフォージャーと同じ声優
Well, she was supposed to be back in 50 years but she had a date with Himmel at that time so she couldn't make it....
This is just my insight about the sword being protected. Is that the sword isn't just being protected from monsters but also, the sword along with its truth, being protected from adventurers and people outside the village and that's where frieren comes in, her task of exterminating the monsters every half a century so that they wouldn't need to hire adventurers or having adventurers coming to the village to help exterminating monsters that is surrounding the sword, all to keep the truth and HIMmel's honor be preserved. This might be obvious to some but I just like the thought of it that I wanna tell it to y'all😊.
(Sorry for my grammar, I know that it's all over the place😅)
Fern and Stark are close in age. It was really funny when Frieren did her "smug Anya" face especially if you know they share the same VA
You may have already figured this out by now. The "ß" character is not a "b". It's known as an Esszet, and is basically a substitute for "ss" in certain words. It's not generally used anymore, but you'll still come across it.
The diphthong Äu is pronounced like "oy"as in "oyster". So the name Äußerst sounds like "oy-sairst", without a rhotic "r" in the second syllable.
I cried on this episode as well 😭
The show be always throwing jokes after trying to make you cry
One note, I'd been learning German for so many years that even though I'm only B1 at it it's kinda grating to hear such fun people as you say it so wrong, so lemme tell you...Außerst...
This letter - ß - it's German and is read as 'ss'. Just FYI.😊
There is a German TH-camr, Storieswithstyle, who has a lovely video going into the names (people, places, spells) used in the anime up to episode 16. It is very much worth watching, and each name is timestamped.
"ß" is pretty much the only thing I know about German and it's still kind of funny to hear people read it as a b. I actually thought it was a B when I saw it on the map but realised it was a ß when I saw it in the subtitles because the font was clearer.
so you missed the umlaut over the A
Poor Stark 😢
using fake sword to defeat demons, Himmel is OP for sure.
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The heros sword, it might have already been pulled and used in the past, or the calamity that needs the sword have not yet appered, since the demon king was around for so long, so it was most likely not a world ending calamity like the sword is meant to be used ageinst.
I cried like a baby
I would guess Stark will see Stoltz again in Arielle. This show is so great
This show hits the emotion button hard, I’ve only known one other anime to do this in such a short time. We’re so lucky to be watching this
Here’s a grim thought. If the sword is supposed to be used to destroy a calamity that’ll destroy the world, maybe that calamity wasn’t the Demon King and still has to appear
The letter ß in Äußerst is not a B btw 😂
It's a German "sharp S"
Yeah. Think Oyster(st), but remove the “t” in oys(t)er.
There is a German TH-camr, Storieswithstyle, who has a lovely video going into the names (people, places, spells) used in the anime up to episode 16. It is very much worth watching, and each name is timestamped.
Do you guys have a Patreon channel? I need more advanced Frieren reactions, like yesterday 😂
maybe these were recorded before people could correct you but the letter ß in "Äußerst" is not a B, it´s a sharp s sound
待っていました！
I have thought before their popular 1~4special reaction, this work should be fit absolutely for AutoSave.
The "葬送の(funeral)Frieren" ’s evaluation shall be completed by the best two anime-love-reviewers of TH-cam.
At least, they are the best for this work😊 Getting the context clue by small details is especially needed,but, that's what AutoSave is always doing very well, so they can develop its emotions, making, and motif(←for now…for originnal is still 125epi😅)…etc.
Anyway, glad for the best review, as R&S:0 and Mado☆Magi.( I will watch others… later…havn‘t seen vs boys or some. m(_ _;)m)
predictの能力は…最早ちょっと怖い^^;
Damn i missed the chance of stoltz being alive since i don't watch intros. They would 100% not put him in a desert fighting if he didn't survive
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The city they're going to is pronounced Ausserst. I had to look it up.
There is a German TH-camr, Storieswithstyle, who has a lovely video going into the names (people, places, spells) used in the anime up to episode 16. It is very much worth watching, and each name is timestamped.
Fake hero slaughter demon lord with fake sword sound a lot more badass. 🗿
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Freelen and Anya from SPY×FAMILY are the same voice actress.
Moin Ben :)
Auberst ? The hurts german ears, sorry. The " ß " is not a b-sound and " Ä " is not an A-sound. " ß " is more like a very sharp " z " and " Ä " well I do not know which aound it is in englisch. Maybe you check Google translator, the speaker function.
Sorry for this critic, no offense. :)
CYA ;)
my dudes
there is no B in Äusserst.
ur also mispronouncing the initial vowel sound but i cant even begin to explain how to do it XD
anyways, that B-lookin symbol means double s.
S-set
❤❤❤
I'm pretty sure Fern and Stark are the same age actually
Tears... So great how they use the flashbacks to show how they influence the present. It's like LOST in a way. But more wholesome. And since Himmel couldn't pull out the sword to defeat a great calamity that's bent on destroying the world.... there must be something else coming...
So, are we shipping Stark and Fern?
that's not even a question anymore, they're already in a battleship sailing into the pacific
Yayyy frieren fridayyy
I don't know a lot about the nuances of the Japanese language, but does the fact that Stark calls Stoltz "anniki" instead of "onii-san" say anything about their relatedness? Or are the two terms interchangeable?
Sorry, I am not good at English. Aniki (兄貴／アニキ) is an honorific term, It is not every situation use this word. typically, is reserved for addressing someone you respect, who is also elder than you.
Onii-san is Informal word, can be used in many situations, the use of "onii-san" and "onee-san" to refer to others who are slightly older than them is a part of the language and culture. These terms are used to show respect and politeness towards older individuals, and they are commonly used to address not only siblings but also older friends, acquaintances, or even strangers in certain contexts.
@@ahmao_su Thank you!
Hello😊
I am Japanese.I'm sorry for my bad English.
”onii-san(お兄さん)”、”onii-chan(お兄ちゃん)”、and ”a-ni-ki(兄貴)” generally refer to an older brother.
"onii-san" is a more polite expression than "a-ni-ki". This is the spoken language of everyday conversation.
“onii-san” and “onii-chan” are words that are not rude when used towards anyone, from children to the elderly.
This is because it is a familiar word used in every household.
On the other hand, "a-ni-ki" (兄貴) can also be used when there is a master-servant relationship or an absolute hierarchical relationship. Therefore, it is not a word that can be used against anyone.
Stark and Stoltz are purely blood brothers, so "a-ni-ki" is used interchangeably with "onii-san".
@@絵の具-n2j Thank you!
@@絵の具-n2jThank you!
How come you dont think of the most obvious sentiment of the episode?
"a real hero" - what is a real hero? Does some legendary sword make you the hero? Or shouldbit be wise-versa person who becomes a hero makes his every (even a replica) sword "a hero's sword"? Does pulling some piece of metal out of a rock make you a hero, or is it how you act (help with the carrage, play with children, helping villagers, cprotecting them against a dragon etc.) like Stark in the second half of the episode. Usually both halfs of Frieren's episodes have a connecting sub plot, but no reactors pick up on that
the director is doing a very very amazing job, the pacing is perfect. if you dont notice, other than some early episode, every episode end with good note,
it makes you feels good waiting for next episode, you're waiting for next episode with good hope. the director nails the framing of each episode perfectly!
and...
what Frieren wears, doesn't it looks like chef's uniform?
what i really love is that each passing episode the time skip becomes shorter and shorter paralleled to how Frieren value time
10/10 what a bro
Put Space Dandy in the next poll
i think stark's brother is the real hero. but unfortunately he died before he could face his destiny as a hero
Stark's brother wasn't born yet when the Demon King was alive.
村長は藤原書記と同じ声優
My favorite episode