That thumbnail.. Brought a patriotic tear to my eyes. My heart envys the civilian's position in the picture. She's able to gaze upon that that beautiful symbol of peace and order. Goddesses I'm gonna cry.
@Dino Tyrannos My apologies. That was a bit of pony-speak that leaked in. Pffft.. I believe in no Gods or Goddesses save the supernatural source of wisdom our great Emperor tapped into to bring us out of the Clone Wars. No way that was brain power alone! I see why Lord Vader (our Emperor's sorcerer bodyguard/friend) looks up to our Emperor.. Heck the only thing there is to disagree on is the Tarkin doctrine. That doctrine is likely the only reason many civilians *hate* us! Oh no.. Tarkin, why? Now I'm getting sad. °^°
@@Techno_Bunny433 hm.. It does look kind of low. Perhaps the crew is just showing off for the ground based inhabitants? uwu She has much more of a beautiful view than she would if it were 10,000ft AGL. I mean Uhf.. Look at the sheer size of that beast! It deserves to receive love and affection by means of car-wash.. Ship wash? Capital ship wash!! Who needs a planet killer when you could have a state (Empire) owned repair and holding station! No need for a super laser if it were just an aircraft carrier for the *aircraft carriers* ... Oh my.. I really like this train of thought. ÒwÓ""
well under Mon Mothma disarment in new Canon definitely... in Legends however Corellia and Kuat were quite prominent system who lived of New Republic military. (however truth is that during GA when it tried to disarm the systems that did not work quite well...) in general GA could take down Corelia and others if it was not continualy sabotaged by Lumiya trough Jacen Solo... but for significant time few "wealthy systems" were able to go toe to toe with GA (especially since not everyone was willing to commit resources to full scale war.) Canon Corellia also benefited from having 5 habbitable planets which allowed the system incredible self sustainability.
No, and it never was. Only in the Disney Trash canon. Otherwise it's an okay place to live, with indigenous aliens, and a corporation that made no ISDs what so ever.
Well... they did actually build cruisers, dreadnaughts (something like "Katana" version -. in fact I think Katana class dreadnaught is the most well designed ship in whole franchise... followed narrowly by Harrower class of old Sith Empire (there it was done by simply "fixing" star destroyer design so it actually has effective gun placement), fighters and such... but star destroyers were eventually built even at Mon Calamary, and Lando was selling one version of new pirate catcher and interdictors made Tendrando Arms which was almost a Star destroyer size to Galactic Alliance.
Of course it's not a joke. We have a quote by Queen Trios of Shu-Torun regarding planet Jedha after Krennic finished landscaping it! "Reminds me of home." When it reminds Royalty of home, you know you got luxury!
+Dan Thompson, In the Warhammer 40k universe, yes, yes it would ;) ... ... No but seriously, it is acceptable to say, ''The Empire protects!" because that is the socio-political claim the Empire always made for itself to the public. They built an enshrined doctrine and ''winner's history'' around the claims that, in their propaganda at least, they were protecting the galaxy from the turbulence of the Clone Wars. The turbulence, that is, of Separatism. Essentially, Palpatine had brought a vast portion of the galaxy to the conclusion that the Empire had averted the continuation of the bloodshed (that literally killed fucking billions) in the Clone Wars, and that the only answer to the chaos was the order of Empire. He had duped so many into what was, essentially, arguing for his side of things in a majestically vast, galaxy spanning myth. We could characterise it as a huge form of strawman fallacy; that the enemy was division, and that Palpatine and the Galactic Empire had saved the galaxy from said division. Naturally, these people did not understand that the Empire was founded on lies and yet that detail clearly didn't matter to old Palpatine, the sly devil. He took the galaxy by storm like a wolf in sheep's clothing and then spun the narrative that the war *HE literally organised meticulously down to tactical level engagements* and financial transactions, was spontaneous and down to the strawman opponent he also created through Dooku and others, of the Separatists. General Grievous committed so many war crimes and heinous atrocities, that this just seemed to prove everything. A lot of the history genuinely was not propaganda, and figures like Grievous were remembered as a boogeyman and a sign of what happens when Separatists get into a war. The rebel alliance were of course, simply seen as divisive Separatists/neo-Separatists come again to haunt the ''peaceful galaxy''. Point being, that the EMPIRE protects and that is not just to say, the Emperor alone. He was not seen by the average joe Imperial going to his 9-5 job as a living god on Coruscant (or Holy Terra, in the case of the God Emperor of Mankind in W40K as we both know you're hinting at lol and yes my comment did tongue in cheek slightly reference the W40K universe too, but only in a secondary capacity; primarily it was referring to the actual way the SW Galactic Empire saw itself) The Empire of Palpatine, was not the Empire of the God Emperor of Mankind. In the latter universe, the fact is gods are real and not some myth. Most Imperials were *specifically led to believe that Palpatine was an everyday humble Gungan lover* and seen as a grandfather figure. Since the Clone Wars, his face, words and confidence against the Separatist ''aggressors'' (lol, not exactly fair is it, they just wanted freedom; though the Seppy leadership were assholes sadly who wanted more money cough Nute Gunray etc but still most were normal folk who disagreed with the hegemony of the imperialistic, so-called democratic Republic that was imperial in all but name anyway, as they thoroughly proved by going to war over it) was a sign of hope and reassurance to scared and worried citizens of the Republic. This theme continued into the Galactic Civil War era; though less and less people, especially in the military, were convinced. It must be noted though, that most Imperials did not see Emperor Palpatine behave the way he did to his own military. The military were numerous indeed but still numerically inferior to the bulk of the population of the civilians of the galaxy (trillions VS quadrillions) Essentially, Palpatine could be ''his true self'' to officers he'd literally barbecue with force lightning if they pissed him off, but to the public? Well to them he still tried to act innocent - even with big fuck off ma-hoo-ssive skyscraper sized statues of himself on Coruscant lol No zippety zapping for them unless he could get them alone out of sight or they were dragged to him for a personal meeting which would consist of him finding ways to enjoy killing them for disobeying or displeasing him. I pity the Imperials mostly for the fact they were so convinced of their Empire and honour bound to fight for it, and die for it. But, Palpatine was the puppet-master and like a big nasty fuck off spider at the centre of a web strung with many flies around him, who he sucked dry till he'd gotten all they had left out of and discarded of them. In the deleted scenes of ROTJ, Palpatine fully intended to fire on Endor even though that meant killing every last Imperial on the planet. They were failing to beat the rebels at that point and Sidious must have known, and so fully intended to achieve victory another way at any cost. The Empire would have been something so much more if not for Palpatine. Well, without Palpatine it wouldn't exist at all but you get my point? His men were fighting for a different version of reality that he had invented and conned the galaxy into believing. They were perhaps the greatest victims of all (you know, apart from fucking Alderaan, rest in peace lol) Anyhow.... modern SJW Star Wars is fucking with the canon so much that they'd have us believe almost all the citizens were anti-Empire - see the mess that was Star Wars Rebels (had its moments, but just an SJW shitfest in general, really cheesy, really predictable, really biased) Palpatine literally tries to pass himself off as the victorious Emperor who liberated the galaxy, innocently and logically. The whole disfigurement by Jedi thing. And on that note, why would the entire galaxy seem to forget Jedi were real and not some mythical space ponies or unicorns or something, when Palpatine officially addressed the Jedi as his would be assassins *to the fucking senate publicly* in front of the Republic listening to his words being broadcast? This is fucking canonical so there is no fucking way whatsoever that Jedi would be forgotten. They were the great boogeymen of Imperial propaganda, the ring leaders of the Separatists supposedly, the masterminds of the Clone Wars, the big bad of yesteryear; when that was literally just Palpatine projecting his own fucking role in everything and trolling the galaxy, friend and foe alike. He even trolled Dooku remember. The Emperor, does protect; according to Imperial propaganda. But not like the God Emperor of Mankind. Though 1,000 psyches a day need to die in a ritual to keep the zombie like corpse of the God Emperor's soul in the material world and out of the hellish immaterium, amounting to millions over the years. And he is a massive tyrant and psychopath even worse than Palpatine in quite a lot of ways actually. Nevertheless, the God Emperor in W40K is fighting to keep humanity alive in at least some form against the darkness, at least, so we are told. People are still just disposable tools for him in the grand scheme; hell, entire planets are. But at least he did actively fight ''for'' the people, and to save systems under threat, and is about the only thing, even in his crippled and deathly state post-Horus Heresy, keeping the human race going in a bizarre paradigm. Palpatine was just a cunt and that is pretty obvious. He only cared about the Sith. Even so, we have to give Palpy one bit of credit; he didn't literally want to end all life in the universe - he wanted to control it. Which, is still megalomaniacal and sinister as fuck, but still not as bad as what another Emperor in SW history wanted to do.... If we *compare Emperor Palpatine to Emperor Valkorion/Vitiate* then Palpatine actually starts to seem reasonable and sound of mind lol that motherfucker wanted to become a force entity God and kill all life in the universe (not stopping with the SW galaxy) He saw time itself as something to conquer and wanted to live forever, and yes, Palpatine did too, but not like that. Not as a spirit form god with nobody to boss around. Palpatine loved power. It is essentially the same situation if we compare Sauron to Melkor (his boss) aka Palpatine is Sauron, Melkor is Valkorion in this comparison (though technically whereas Sauron was much weaker than Melkor though still very strong, Palpatine could be argued to be combatively stronger than even Valkorion/Vitiate, though one could argue Vitiate was superior in terms of knowledge of the force and the dark side, and Sith magic, though Sidious was fucking impressive at that too; aka the comparison has its limits but whatever) Sauron wanted to dominate and conquer, tyrannise Arda i.e. Earth including Middle-Earth. He wanted to rule all. But not to destroy the fabric of the universe (Ea) itself. He wanted to rule over a downtrodden, hellish world. But he didn't want to tear the universe itself apart. That, by the way, was what Melkor really had in mind from the start. Yep, all of it, all the beautiful stories and ordeals of the characters of the entire history of Tolkien's legendarium, can be boiled down to, ''Melkor was mad at Eru Illuvatar aka God and wanted to rage quit and delete the fucking universe cos he was not allowed to be the boss like his dad God''. The entire situation with Sauron who was essentially gay for Melkor (lol, maybe not literally but who knows, and hey a lot of fan art out there wants to believe that ship haha) was that he sort of tragically never realised he was just Melkor's bitch to discard and to be honest, if he got his way it'd be death for everyone to spite God. Sauron fought for 5000 fucking years after Melkor got banished into the Void (i.e. space portal hell) through the Door of Night. Everything he did was in Melkor's name before, during and long after the War of Wrath in which Melkor was cast down in the biggest war in the Tolkien Legendarium by far (at least pre-end times Dagor Dagorath, but that is another matter lol) Whereas Sauron AKA Palpatine sincerely wanted to fly the banner for the devil i.e. Melkor, who he truly loved and admired, Melkor AKA Valkorion wanted TIME TO END.
At the start you said, “when the empire turned into the republic...” err minor error, though I’m sure a lot of aliens and Jedi wished that was the case lol. but still, good vid. Very informative.
I had to watch the start of your video several times to make sure, but you definitely started by saying "When the EMPIRE turned into the REPUBLIC overnight". I think that's bass ackwards brother, hahahaha! Alan having a moment
The imperial occupation gave me a job as a consultant to the storm troopers. So pretty good, good hours steady wages and I have a office in a space station.
@@alduintheanti-dragonborn that's a bunch of imperial propaganda, the New Republic went on to control the galaxy and last for a long time. It even defeated the Yuzzhan Vong
@@billclark5055 Actually the New Republic was defeated in 3 years after the Yuuzhan Vong appeared when they conquered Coruscant, they then reformed into the Galactic Alliance and also had help from either it was the Imperial Remnant or some other empire who then defeated the Yuuzhan Vong.
If I was on Jakku, I would build a factory that was solar powered (since Jakku is a desert world). Since there are various shipwrecks on the planet, resources would be readily available. I would have the factory build various components for ships, droids, and communications equipment.
Legends Corellia: One of the Core Founders of the Republic, an independent force even within the Empire that gave Palpatine pause, fiercely independent. The Shipyards had long ago been moved in orbit, keeping the planet in prestine condition with agricultural goods being so plentiful that it was a major export. Canon Corellia: Planet sized slum whose only export is Han Solo
They did the same with Anaxes. In legends, it was a part of the mighty Axum system, Core World with rich history and military traditions. Canon Anaxes(Clone Wars) : it is somewhere in the Outer Rim, backward, it is even destroyed later and became an asteroid belt
I encounter civilians like you all the time. You believe the Empire is continually plotting to do harm. Let me tell you, your view of the Empire is far to dramatic. The Empire is a government. It keeps billions of beings fed and clothed. Day after day, year after year, on thousands of worlds, people live their lives under Imperial rule without seeing a stormtrooper or hearing a TIE fighter scream overhead. - Captain Mitth'raw'nuruodo
"You believe the Empire is continually plotting to do harm." What else is it doing with those giant battle stations? Those things weren't created for any humanitarian purposes... "The Empire is a government." And governments are sociopathic by nature - never trust them. "Day after day, year after year, on thousands of worlds, people live their lives under Imperial rule without seeing a stormtrooper or hearing a TIE fighter scream overhead." Until one day they do...
So not only did the actual reference quote go right over your head, but you chose to respond by utilizing generalization fallacies to do what exactly? Advocate anarchy?
"Still, Rebels are evil from a certain point of view too. None of them are saints." I never said that they were - personally, I prefer the "criminal" factions over either the empire or the rebels.
"What would global government be, then?" I doubt that such a thing can exist for very long - too many fingers in too many pies for that to sustain itself. "Isn't nationalism Resistance against globalism?" Only insofar as one predator resists another predator in a fight over hunting grounds - the prey animals don't really benefit regardless of which predator comes out on top. " Isn't pathological altruism more devastating than sociopathy?" In practice the outcome is very much the same.
He meant the original one. The one with no loot boxes. The one with a decent campaign that acts like a real Battlefront game and not an FPS with one overpowered character. The one with better multiplayer levels where you objective is simply to beat the crap out of the enemy however you want to instead of being forced to complete specific objectives. The one that's better despite being twelve years older.
+Attila The Hun The one that's just multiplayer matches with minor objectives thrown in and minor 'cinematics'. I liked it, sure, but let's not pretend it was anything special. _EVERYTHING_ has downsides to it, no matter what perspective you see it from.
I don't argue that it is perfect. The campaign isn't the high point although it does present quite the challenge. I usually play on GC or multiplayer. That's where the game really shines. The levels aren't linear and you can chose whatever best suits you, there are no wrong choices.
Prequelmemes are still prequels! The movies were created at a later date than the originals, but storywise took place before the originals. We hav lossa transmission, Sir!
@@itwontcomeout5678 No, he was spreading big lie that new canon is somehow worst then prequels, what is something only prequel babies believe on the first place, when rest of the fandom ignore this nest of retards.
I always thought that life improved significantly for many Outer Rim worlds under the Empire: abolishment of slavery, a major contributor to Darth Vader's loyalty (in the original works) which the Republic condoned (Episode 1), and the Empire fought against (Clone Wars, the Empire also hired the Clones, not forced them to be there, Rebels), protection from raider attacks and corporate exploitation, also condoned or at least ignored by the Republic, in fact encouraged in the case of the corporations (Free Trade Zone), credits flowing to somewhere other than the corrupt core (or Hutt Space), large criminal syndicates losing influence, massive works projects and employment moving from the core to people ignored for millennia by the Republic, etc. In fact, the only places that seemed to suffer were corrupt systems and planets with massive insurgency issues. Which, what are you going to do about? As well, I can't think of any canon suggesting lower wages, and say what you will, the militarizing of a populace nation tends to greatly improve the lives of the adverage citizen, especially if the workforce stays within its borders. Even in Rebels, until Zeb and Ezra started gunning down people randomly in the street, Lothal seemed to be at least okay. Jetta and Alderaan may actually have been Tarkin going off the rails, he didn't receive any orders, he just started attacking places. This being the same guy that parked a cruiser on protestors, without being stripped of rank by the Senate. We don't know what the ramifications of his choices may have been, he kind of blew up, in a non-JJ time, so he didn't come back. Plus, most of the problems seemed to come during the reign of a Core focused corrupt Senate (Leia was running around committing treason using her daddy's credentials to do so) and less during the Emperor's (not saying he's a hero or nothing, but what did he directly do (give orders to do) to the people? Even the game, you can't guarantee it was actually his orders. Plus, the Empire and Emperor, with rare exception (Tarkin / Vadar) seemed to value the lives of the citizenry (and its officer core, generally re-assigning screw ups, instead of force choking them) not sure about Thrawn, but he was never random, till the end of Rebels. And even then the whole of Lothal was in revolt). In point of fact, it seems most of the bad actors were force users and their direct allies. I like Mon Mothma, but she gave up on diplomacy, while it was still possible. The Senate was not disbanded for another few years, after she left. And what happened after the glorious rebellion? Complete and utter chaos, more so with the Disney canon (no Empire, no Republic), much better lives in a Galaxy wide leaderless power vacuum.
You do realize the writers of starwars fashioned the empire from the usssr and nazi Germany they said in multiple interviews. But you think the empire was the good guys, that says a lot, you need help.
@@AK-American Its a fucking sci fi movie trilogy, calm the fuck down lol. In multiple ways the Empire is good, and in multiple ways the Empire is bad. If you wanna go around calling people who think a faction in a sci fi trilogy is interesting and has depth then you actually need some help ya twat.
The Empire was fashioned after colonial England. Hence, why they have British accents, fleets of large battleships, etc. The fact they're trying to change the narrative after the fact to something else, doesn't undo the original idea. Neither Russia nor Germany is too famous for colonial expansion, one of their colonies breaking away and fighting them, multiple battleships, nor British accents. It's their product, but no revisionism will change what the story was
They didn't mine all of the kyber from Jedha they had just mined all that they needed. Planets like Jedha and Illum had hearts of kyber so to mine all of it would destabilise the planet. Which is pretty much what they did anyway by firing at it with the death star. See the comic "Star Wars 38: The ashes of Jedha"
Lol. In the Gen Tech version, the evil empire is represented by a pool of bottle-nose dolphins, with order slippery-six being the flooding of all land masses to create an aquatic utopia!
1: Coincidentally, this is the same thing that results from "trickle-down economy." The rich and the corporations bounce back, while the middle class disappears.
This could also be in Generation Films OR my Podcast: the “Common Sense” Show (first episode in November 2018), but I’d like to hear which form of Government might be the best.
Actually, Correlian ships were more like pick up trucks. Capable of carrying freight, passengers, etc, or you could arm it to heck and gone and use it as a light attack craft.
Generation tech please make a theory video about what if obi wan kenobi left the jedi order to be with Duchess Satine after his padawan mission to protect her.
So Apparently I'm Corellian. Maybe you should make a video comparing well known planets in the Star Wars universe to geographical locations in our world.
He was not. It is why Expanded Edition sucked, forgetting why conartist like Han would shoot first. Gladly Solo movie show both aspects of this character, instead treating him like Marry Sue. What cause hater-babies outrage of course ;D
Hey @or#Generation tech can i suggests a video about the imperial schools,academys and training please like what was the teaching like,combat you can learn and flying programs or sub ranks or branches,jobs a person can do?
Out of it as soon as you starting explaining what this episode was about the first planet that popped into my head was Corellia, then low and behold it was the opening planet on the list!! Love your channel keep it up. #Humanity first!!
I mean, in almost every case the Rebels have shot first. I used to be an Empire fan but I realized that the Rebels were just better. The Rebels also have caused more civilian deaths when they attack an Imperial convoy or something.
Dont know if it was the tarsian Ale or Maybe my Wookiee Helmsman/Butler forgot to turn off his opera channel or maybe the Engine room alarm light buzzer is getting a tad bit loud... did you say. "The Empire turned into the Republic overnight..." ?
Got a major question I can't find a vid on on TH-cam how did the empire teach about the jedi ? This I started thinking about after the moment when canan reveals his a jedi, the way the imperials reacted made me.think about this
What ever happened to Sluis Van shipyards? I haven't read a lot of new canon books but I haven't heard it mentioned at all and it was one of the main shipyards in Legends. I've been reading the Thrawn Trilogy and the attack on Sluis Van was the main plot point in the first book
Out of curiosity, how would you rework the sequel trilogy? A lot of youtobrrs have given their two cents; and since you’re such a big star wars fan, I’d love to hear your take.
i would like to know how life on Coruscant changed. It's a global city that like 5th century Rome and Constantinople cannot rely on itself and food had to be imported from elswhere but was still a vital commercial and administrative hub. The Empire would need to decide if that is effective or not
That thumbnail.. Brought a patriotic tear to my eyes.
My heart envys the civilian's position in the picture. She's able to gaze upon that that beautiful symbol of peace and order. Goddesses I'm gonna cry.
Haha good man
@Dino Tyrannos My apologies. That was a bit of pony-speak that leaked in.
Pffft.. I believe in no Gods or Goddesses save the supernatural source of wisdom our great Emperor tapped into to bring us out of the Clone Wars. No way that was brain power alone!
I see why Lord Vader (our Emperor's sorcerer bodyguard/friend) looks up to our Emperor.. Heck the only thing there is to disagree on is the Tarkin doctrine. That doctrine is likely the only reason many civilians *hate* us!
Oh no.. Tarkin, why? Now I'm getting sad. °^°
Y'know that isd's belly is scraping off that moutain peek right?
@@Techno_Bunny433 hm.. It does look kind of low. Perhaps the crew is just showing off for the ground based inhabitants? uwu
She has much more of a beautiful view than she would if it were 10,000ft AGL.
I mean Uhf.. Look at the sheer size of that beast! It deserves to receive love and affection by means of car-wash.. Ship wash? Capital ship wash!!
Who needs a planet killer when you could have a state (Empire) owned repair and holding station! No need for a super laser if it were just an aircraft carrier for the *aircraft carriers* ...
Oh my.. I really like this train of thought. ÒwÓ""
Down with the empire! Lol
"When the Empire turned into the Republic"
*"When the Empire turned into the Republic"*
Hey, it happened in legends
Thought I was the only one that noticed lmao
i noticed that to, and i was like wait what?
Basically an auditory version of what dyslexia feels like
Something’s wrong, I can feel it. Order 66 on the Sith order intensifies
"The Rebellion never told you what happened to the Republic...
Oh they told me enough... they said you killed it !
No... I am the Republic !"
No, that’s not true! That’s impossible!
@@flux_switch25 search your feelings, you KNOW it to be true!
@@jameskarg3240 NOOOOOOOOO
@@flux_switch25 bruh you work for the empire you know that
@@recepkaraca4117 no no he is the empire
Sooo..... Corellia is basically just space Detroit?
You hit the nail on the head.
rdxredrock lmao
well under Mon Mothma disarment in new Canon definitely...
in Legends however Corellia and Kuat were quite prominent system who lived of New Republic military.
(however truth is that during GA when it tried to disarm the systems that did not work quite well...)
in general GA could take down Corelia and others if it was not continualy sabotaged by Lumiya trough Jacen Solo...
but for significant time few "wealthy systems" were able to go toe to toe with GA (especially since not everyone was willing to commit resources to full scale war.)
Canon Corellia also benefited from having 5 habbitable planets which allowed the system incredible self sustainability.
No, and it never was. Only in the Disney Trash canon. Otherwise it's an okay place to live, with indigenous aliens, and a corporation that made no ISDs what so ever.
Well... they did actually build cruisers, dreadnaughts (something like "Katana" version -. in fact I think Katana class dreadnaught is the most well designed ship in whole franchise... followed narrowly by Harrower class of old Sith Empire (there it was done by simply "fixing" star destroyer design so it actually has effective gun placement), fighters and such...
but star destroyers were eventually built even at Mon Calamary, and Lando was selling one version of new pirate catcher and interdictors made Tendrando Arms which was almost a Star destroyer size to Galactic Alliance.
The Empire actually helped many systems out of poverty
By putting them out of their misery?
Yup
@@GenerationTech what do you think of the base delta zero order?
This channel is sounding more and more anti Imperial day by day....
Alderaan was actually a pretty good place to live
The Empire did not reduce the quality of life on Jedha! Didn't you see how beautiful Orson Krennic made it?
Are we blind? It's beautiful isn't it?
If the Empire has this kind of power, what chance do we have?
That's a joke, right?
Of course it's not a joke. We have a quote by Queen Trios of Shu-Torun regarding planet Jedha after Krennic finished landscaping it!
"Reminds me of home."
When it reminds Royalty of home, you know you got luxury!
"Jedha reminds me of home"
-Princess Leia Organa of Alderaan
The Empire protects! The Empire provides! The Empire brings order! In Palpatine's name forward!
Wouldnt it be "The *EMPEROR* Protects"?
No! Scratch that! There is only one emperor for humanity! Yours is a false Emperor!
+Dan Thompson,
In the Warhammer 40k universe, yes, yes it would ;)
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No but seriously, it is acceptable to say, ''The Empire protects!" because that is the socio-political claim the Empire always made for itself to the public. They built an enshrined doctrine and ''winner's history'' around the claims that, in their propaganda at least, they were protecting the galaxy from the turbulence of the Clone Wars. The turbulence, that is, of Separatism. Essentially, Palpatine had brought a vast portion of the galaxy to the conclusion that the Empire had averted the continuation of the bloodshed (that literally killed fucking billions) in the Clone Wars, and that the only answer to the chaos was the order of Empire.
He had duped so many into what was, essentially, arguing for his side of things in a majestically vast, galaxy spanning myth. We could characterise it as a huge form of strawman fallacy; that the enemy was division, and that Palpatine and the Galactic Empire had saved the galaxy from said division. Naturally, these people did not understand that the Empire was founded on lies and yet that detail clearly didn't matter to old Palpatine, the sly devil. He took the galaxy by storm like a wolf in sheep's clothing and then spun the narrative that the war *HE literally organised meticulously down to tactical level engagements* and financial transactions, was spontaneous and down to the strawman opponent he also created through Dooku and others, of the Separatists. General Grievous committed so many war crimes and heinous atrocities, that this just seemed to prove everything. A lot of the history genuinely was not propaganda, and figures like Grievous were remembered as a boogeyman and a sign of what happens when Separatists get into a war. The rebel alliance were of course, simply seen as divisive Separatists/neo-Separatists come again to haunt the ''peaceful galaxy''.
Point being, that the EMPIRE protects and that is not just to say, the Emperor alone. He was not seen by the average joe Imperial going to his 9-5 job as a living god on Coruscant (or Holy Terra, in the case of the God Emperor of Mankind in W40K as we both know you're hinting at lol and yes my comment did tongue in cheek slightly reference the W40K universe too, but only in a secondary capacity; primarily it was referring to the actual way the SW Galactic Empire saw itself)
The Empire of Palpatine, was not the Empire of the God Emperor of Mankind. In the latter universe, the fact is gods are real and not some myth. Most Imperials were *specifically led to believe that Palpatine was an everyday humble Gungan lover* and seen as a grandfather figure. Since the Clone Wars, his face, words and confidence against the Separatist ''aggressors'' (lol, not exactly fair is it, they just wanted freedom; though the Seppy leadership were assholes sadly who wanted more money cough Nute Gunray etc but still most were normal folk who disagreed with the hegemony of the imperialistic, so-called democratic Republic that was imperial in all but name anyway, as they thoroughly proved by going to war over it) was a sign of hope and reassurance to scared and worried citizens of the Republic.
This theme continued into the Galactic Civil War era; though less and less people, especially in the military, were convinced. It must be noted though, that most Imperials did not see Emperor Palpatine behave the way he did to his own military. The military were numerous indeed but still numerically inferior to the bulk of the population of the civilians of the galaxy (trillions VS quadrillions) Essentially, Palpatine could be ''his true self'' to officers he'd literally barbecue with force lightning if they pissed him off, but to the public?
Well to them he still tried to act innocent - even with big fuck off ma-hoo-ssive skyscraper sized statues of himself on Coruscant lol No zippety zapping for them unless he could get them alone out of sight or they were dragged to him for a personal meeting which would consist of him finding ways to enjoy killing them for disobeying or displeasing him. I pity the Imperials mostly for the fact they were so convinced of their Empire and honour bound to fight for it, and die for it. But, Palpatine was the puppet-master and like a big nasty fuck off spider at the centre of a web strung with many flies around him, who he sucked dry till he'd gotten all they had left out of and discarded of them. In the deleted scenes of ROTJ, Palpatine fully intended to fire on Endor even though that meant killing every last Imperial on the planet. They were failing to beat the rebels at that point and Sidious must have known, and so fully intended to achieve victory another way at any cost. The Empire would have been something so much more if not for Palpatine. Well, without Palpatine it wouldn't exist at all but you get my point? His men were fighting for a different version of reality that he had invented and conned the galaxy into believing. They were perhaps the greatest victims of all (you know, apart from fucking Alderaan, rest in peace lol)
Anyhow.... modern SJW Star Wars is fucking with the canon so much that they'd have us believe almost all the citizens were anti-Empire - see the mess that was Star Wars Rebels (had its moments, but just an SJW shitfest in general, really cheesy, really predictable, really biased) Palpatine literally tries to pass himself off as the victorious Emperor who liberated the galaxy, innocently and logically. The whole disfigurement by Jedi thing. And on that note, why would the entire galaxy seem to forget Jedi were real and not some mythical space ponies or unicorns or something, when Palpatine officially addressed the Jedi as his would be assassins *to the fucking senate publicly* in front of the Republic listening to his words being broadcast? This is fucking canonical so there is no fucking way whatsoever that Jedi would be forgotten. They were the great boogeymen of Imperial propaganda, the ring leaders of the Separatists supposedly, the masterminds of the Clone Wars, the big bad of yesteryear; when that was literally just Palpatine projecting his own fucking role in everything and trolling the galaxy, friend and foe alike. He even trolled Dooku remember.
The Emperor, does protect; according to Imperial propaganda. But not like the God Emperor of Mankind. Though 1,000 psyches a day need to die in a ritual to keep the zombie like corpse of the God Emperor's soul in the material world and out of the hellish immaterium, amounting to millions over the years. And he is a massive tyrant and psychopath even worse than Palpatine in quite a lot of ways actually. Nevertheless, the God Emperor in W40K is fighting to keep humanity alive in at least some form against the darkness, at least, so we are told. People are still just disposable tools for him in the grand scheme; hell, entire planets are. But at least he did actively fight ''for'' the people, and to save systems under threat, and is about the only thing, even in his crippled and deathly state post-Horus Heresy, keeping the human race going in a bizarre paradigm. Palpatine was just a cunt and that is pretty obvious. He only cared about the Sith.
Even so, we have to give Palpy one bit of credit; he didn't literally want to end all life in the universe - he wanted to control it. Which, is still megalomaniacal and sinister as fuck, but still not as bad as what another Emperor in SW history wanted to do....
If we *compare Emperor Palpatine to Emperor Valkorion/Vitiate* then Palpatine actually starts to seem reasonable and sound of mind lol that motherfucker wanted to become a force entity God and kill all life in the universe (not stopping with the SW galaxy) He saw time itself as something to conquer and wanted to live forever, and yes, Palpatine did too, but not like that. Not as a spirit form god with nobody to boss around. Palpatine loved power.
It is essentially the same situation if we compare Sauron to Melkor (his boss) aka Palpatine is Sauron, Melkor is Valkorion in this comparison (though technically whereas Sauron was much weaker than Melkor though still very strong, Palpatine could be argued to be combatively stronger than even Valkorion/Vitiate, though one could argue Vitiate was superior in terms of knowledge of the force and the dark side, and Sith magic, though Sidious was fucking impressive at that too; aka the comparison has its limits but whatever) Sauron wanted to dominate and conquer, tyrannise Arda i.e. Earth including Middle-Earth. He wanted to rule all. But not to destroy the fabric of the universe (Ea) itself.
He wanted to rule over a downtrodden, hellish world. But he didn't want to tear the universe itself apart. That, by the way, was what Melkor really had in mind from the start. Yep, all of it, all the beautiful stories and ordeals of the characters of the entire history of Tolkien's legendarium, can be boiled down to, ''Melkor was mad at Eru Illuvatar aka God and wanted to rage quit and delete the fucking universe cos he was not allowed to be the boss like his dad God''. The entire situation with Sauron who was essentially gay for Melkor (lol, maybe not literally but who knows, and hey a lot of fan art out there wants to believe that ship haha) was that he sort of tragically never realised he was just Melkor's bitch to discard and to be honest, if he got his way it'd be death for everyone to spite God. Sauron fought for 5000 fucking years after Melkor got banished into the Void (i.e. space portal hell) through the Door of Night. Everything he did was in Melkor's name before, during and long after the War of Wrath in which Melkor was cast down in the biggest war in the Tolkien Legendarium by far (at least pre-end times Dagor Dagorath, but that is another matter lol) Whereas Sauron AKA Palpatine sincerely wanted to fly the banner for the devil i.e. Melkor, who he truly loved and admired, Melkor AKA Valkorion wanted TIME TO END.
+Dan Thompson,
BURN HERETIC! (yelled in the voice of John Hurt, RIP)
Hey! I'm not the Dark Angels ;)
At the start you said, “when the empire turned into the republic...” err minor error, though I’m sure a lot of aliens and Jedi wished that was the case lol.
but still, good vid. Very informative.
Whoops good call
I was about to say that... 😉
Chris i noticed iT to😂🤔😅
I actually thought you were joking. You seemed to hesitate for a moment
Uh... the other way, the other way....
🙃🙃🙃
Our population is 100% human and pretty big. That combined with our enormous industry would maybe even make us one of the central imperial worlds.
We have around the same population as alderaan
Or at least what Alderaan had in terms of population
Alderaan have no population at all, it's an asteroid belt.
Although ironically, we are located on the outer rim of our own galaxy.
If we join the Empire they'll flood our planet with cheap alien labor.
Why is the generation films background on?
Umm either I’m secretly plugging the show or I need more sleep
@@GenerationTech Is that why you said "when the Empire turned in to the Republic" at the beginning?
Execute Order 66
Or you are high on force man
@General Necromage just human beings or any individuals
I had to watch the start of your video several times to make sure, but you definitely started by saying "When the EMPIRE turned into the REPUBLIC overnight". I think that's bass ackwards brother, hahahaha! Alan having a moment
Yes I am lol
@@GenerationTech , it's all good brother. I've been like that today myself. It's a Monday, that's why!
For the glory of the Empire!! Down with the dirty rebels and dolphins
What's a dolphin
Yeah please do tell what a dolphin means in the star wars world?!!!???
Yeah screw dolph... wait why dolphins?
Jotoro Kujo would like to know your location.
That thumbnail is perfection. Gaze upon the powerful majesty of the ever gracious Galactic Empire!
The imperial occupation gave me a job as a consultant to the storm troopers. So pretty good, good hours steady wages and I have a office in a space station.
That’s great I’m really happy for you but I would suggest applying to work remotely
@Cliven Longsight yes
i m a shuttle pilot of the empire.
"Its like the New Jersey of the Star Wars universe"
Hey, come on, that's not, why would you... whoa!
Foogedaboudit! No Corellian can be as classy as us!
1:07 lmao is that a Wookie on a giant squirrel fighting Nazi? Dead
wow just wow - this a freaky image
@Joshua GarciaCabrera blessed image u mean
this will be a great series.
can you do one on how the average person saw the New Republic coming to power?
It was filled with corrupt stupid pacifists until the glorious First Order wiped them out with 1 blow.
#HumanityFirst
@@alduintheanti-dragonborn that isn't cannon. The ST is stupid and it's plot is stupid.
@@alduintheanti-dragonborn that's a bunch of imperial propaganda, the New Republic went on to control the galaxy and last for a long time. It even defeated the Yuzzhan Vong
@@billclark5055 Actually the New Republic was defeated in 3 years after the Yuuzhan Vong appeared when they conquered Coruscant, they then reformed into the Galactic Alliance and also had help from either it was the Imperial Remnant or some other empire who then defeated the Yuuzhan Vong.
@@billclark5055 But you are right, this "new canon" is stupid.
If I was on Jakku, I would build a factory that was solar powered (since Jakku is a desert world). Since there are various shipwrecks on the planet, resources would be readily available. I would have the factory build various components for ships, droids, and communications equipment.
Great video on life under the Empire! Keep it up! I would like to see more videos on this subject. Thanks again!
Wait there was somebody in the Galaxy named Average Person? Who is Average and why are they so important compared to the rest of Imperial society?
"The New Jersey of Star Wars" god I love you
Legends Corellia: One of the Core Founders of the Republic, an independent force even within the Empire that gave Palpatine pause, fiercely independent. The Shipyards had long ago been moved in orbit, keeping the planet in prestine condition with agricultural goods being so plentiful that it was a major export.
Canon Corellia: Planet sized slum whose only export is Han Solo
They did the same with Anaxes.
In legends, it was a part of the mighty Axum system, Core World with rich history and military traditions.
Canon Anaxes(Clone Wars) : it is somewhere in the Outer Rim, backward, it is even destroyed later and became an asteroid belt
The Empire helped me get a job at Kuat Drive Yards.
Absolutely make more, you guys make such incredibly high quality to the point entertainment, it would be great to see what other ideas you have :)
I encounter civilians like you all the time. You believe the Empire is continually plotting to do harm. Let me tell you, your view of the Empire is far to dramatic. The Empire is a government. It keeps billions of beings fed and clothed. Day after day, year after year, on thousands of worlds, people live their lives under Imperial rule without seeing a stormtrooper or hearing a TIE fighter scream overhead.
- Captain Mitth'raw'nuruodo
"You believe the Empire is continually plotting to do harm."
What else is it doing with those giant battle stations? Those things weren't created for any humanitarian purposes...
"The Empire is a government."
And governments are sociopathic by nature - never trust them.
"Day after day, year after year, on thousands of worlds, people live their lives under Imperial rule without seeing a stormtrooper or hearing a TIE fighter scream overhead."
Until one day they do...
That kinda makes my point for me about the sociopathic nature of nation-states...
So not only did the actual reference quote go right over your head, but you chose to respond by utilizing generalization fallacies to do what exactly? Advocate anarchy?
"Still, Rebels are evil from a certain point of view too. None of them are saints."
I never said that they were - personally, I prefer the "criminal" factions over either the empire or the rebels.
"What would global government be, then?"
I doubt that such a thing can exist for very long - too many fingers in too many pies for that to sustain itself.
"Isn't nationalism Resistance against globalism?"
Only insofar as one predator resists another predator in a fight over hunting grounds - the prey animals don't really benefit regardless of which predator comes out on top.
" Isn't pathological altruism more devastating than sociopathy?"
In practice the outcome is very much the same.
“Comes to no surprise that the Karelians were good shipbuilders”
Subtitles: “The Koreans were good shipbuilders”
Karelians are a Finnic people. :D It is Corellia
Well, Koreans are pretty good ship builders
Can you do the Original Battlefront 2 play through?
Here th-cam.com/video/NARtvo6d-VA/w-d-xo.html
No that one from 2017
He meant Star Wars Battlefront 2 (2005)
He meant the original one. The one with no loot boxes. The one with a decent campaign that acts like a real Battlefront game and not an FPS with one overpowered character. The one with better multiplayer levels where you objective is simply to beat the crap out of the enemy however you want to instead of being forced to complete specific objectives. The one that's better despite being twelve years older.
+Attila The Hun
The one that's just multiplayer matches with minor objectives thrown in and minor 'cinematics'. I liked it, sure, but let's not pretend it was anything special.
_EVERYTHING_ has downsides to it, no matter what perspective you see it from.
I don't argue that it is perfect. The campaign isn't the high point although it does present quite the challenge. I usually play on GC or multiplayer. That's where the game really shines. The levels aren't linear and you can chose whatever best suits you, there are no wrong choices.
Love this channel! So much Star Wars info!
0:04 “The Empire turned into the Republic overnight”
Empires don't become Republics overnight---they gradually degrade until they break down and collapse.
People can't enjoy prequel memes because it's not the prequels anymore. Dark times.
The NuggetBacon only the disney star wars deal in absolutes
Prequelmemes are still prequels! The movies were created at a later date than the originals, but storywise took place before the originals.
We hav lossa transmission, Sir!
That's the whole reason why the Alliance to Restore the Republic was founded: so that the people could appreciate prequel memes once again
Before the empire
@@itwontcomeout5678 No, he was spreading big lie that new canon is somehow worst then prequels, what is something only prequel babies believe on the first place, when rest of the fandom ignore this nest of retards.
This is interesting topic and great video.
How does the occupation effect me? They help me to wake up from that rebel propaganda called the last jedi
fucking Hoo'ah
Based weeb
Are people still complaining about the Last Jedi?
Then destroy your homeworld when the emperor dies.
Lots of potential Chaos Cultusts in the Empire
Heck, Palpatine would make an above average Daemon Prince!
Long live the CIS!
“When the Empire turned into the Republic overnight” huh something seems wrong about that statement.
Perhaps the archives are incomplete
I always thought that life improved significantly for many Outer Rim worlds under the Empire: abolishment of slavery, a major contributor to Darth Vader's loyalty (in the original works) which the Republic condoned (Episode 1), and the Empire fought against (Clone Wars, the Empire also hired the Clones, not forced them to be there, Rebels), protection from raider attacks and corporate exploitation, also condoned or at least ignored by the Republic, in fact encouraged in the case of the corporations (Free Trade Zone), credits flowing to somewhere other than the corrupt core (or Hutt Space), large criminal syndicates losing influence, massive works projects and employment moving from the core to people ignored for millennia by the Republic, etc.
In fact, the only places that seemed to suffer were corrupt systems and planets with massive insurgency issues. Which, what are you going to do about? As well, I can't think of any canon suggesting lower wages, and say what you will, the militarizing of a populace nation tends to greatly improve the lives of the adverage citizen, especially if the workforce stays within its borders. Even in Rebels, until Zeb and Ezra started gunning down people randomly in the street, Lothal seemed to be at least okay. Jetta and Alderaan may actually have been Tarkin going off the rails, he didn't receive any orders, he just started attacking places. This being the same guy that parked a cruiser on protestors, without being stripped of rank by the Senate. We don't know what the ramifications of his choices may have been, he kind of blew up, in a non-JJ time, so he didn't come back.
Plus, most of the problems seemed to come during the reign of a Core focused corrupt Senate (Leia was running around committing treason using her daddy's credentials to do so) and less during the Emperor's (not saying he's a hero or nothing, but what did he directly do (give orders to do) to the people? Even the game, you can't guarantee it was actually his orders. Plus, the Empire and Emperor, with rare exception (Tarkin / Vadar) seemed to value the lives of the citizenry (and its officer core, generally re-assigning screw ups, instead of force choking them) not sure about Thrawn, but he was never random, till the end of Rebels. And even then the whole of Lothal was in revolt). In point of fact, it seems most of the bad actors were force users and their direct allies. I like Mon Mothma, but she gave up on diplomacy, while it was still possible. The Senate was not disbanded for another few years, after she left. And what happened after the glorious rebellion? Complete and utter chaos, more so with the Disney canon (no Empire, no Republic), much better lives in a Galaxy wide leaderless power vacuum.
True
You do realize the writers of starwars fashioned the empire from the usssr and nazi Germany they said in multiple interviews. But you think the empire was the good guys, that says a lot, you need help.
@@AK-American Its a fucking sci fi movie trilogy, calm the fuck down lol. In multiple ways the Empire is good, and in multiple ways the Empire is bad. If you wanna go around calling people who think a faction in a sci fi trilogy is interesting and has depth then you actually need some help ya twat.
The Empire was fashioned after colonial England. Hence, why they have British accents, fleets of large battleships, etc. The fact they're trying to change the narrative after the fact to something else, doesn't undo the original idea. Neither Russia nor Germany is too famous for colonial expansion, one of their colonies breaking away and fighting them, multiple battleships, nor British accents. It's their product, but no revisionism will change what the story was
They didn't mine all of the kyber from Jedha they had just mined all that they needed. Planets like Jedha and Illum had hearts of kyber so to mine all of it would destabilise the planet. Which is pretty much what they did anyway by firing at it with the death star. See the comic "Star Wars 38: The ashes of Jedha"
the imperial force vs skynet
The Empire created peace, justice, security, and order to the galaxy thanks to Pappy Palatine he made the galaxy great again
What is the news of the Vader a star wars story fan film
Lol. In the Gen Tech version, the evil empire is represented by a pool of bottle-nose dolphins, with order slippery-six being the flooding of all land masses to create an aquatic utopia!
1: Coincidentally, this is the same thing that results from "trickle-down economy." The rich and the corporations bounce back, while the middle class disappears.
Love the channel keep up the good work
Great video! The information really makes Star Wars feel more real.
This could also be in Generation Films OR my Podcast: the “Common Sense” Show (first episode in November 2018), but I’d like to hear which form of Government might be the best.
Yay, you hid your taskbar, my advice was taken ;D
I'm from Jersey
How's Megas?
My condolences....😎
I'm sorry for your loss.
same. Central Jersey
I'm 82 miles from you.
Actually, Correlian ships were more like pick up trucks. Capable of carrying freight, passengers, etc, or you could arm it to heck and gone and use it as a light attack craft.
You should definitely make a video comparing the Republics government to the Empires.
It improved.
Good guy Palpatine had our backs :)
"Oh, it's beautiful..." -- Imperial Director Orson Krennic, the first time he laid eyes on Jedha's surface.
I love this dude's subtle humour
general notification squad
Glory to the Empire!
What I remember about the rise of the Empire is- is how quiet it was.
I love how 0:04 is just swapped 🗿
0:04 - "When the empire turned into republic over night"
Generation tech please make a theory video about what if obi wan kenobi left the jedi order to be with Duchess Satine after his padawan mission to protect her.
I love you Allen. More then anyone iv loved before
Hail to the Empire! COMPNOR Approves of this Video. Keep up the work Allen.
What is that picture from with a Wookie riding on a squirrel and Nazis aiming guns at it?
it's what the rebels don't want you to know
Things the liberal media won’t show you
Yes please...do more of this same kind show. The good-&-bad, of each republic.. before-&-after the Empire.. as-well-as during..the Empire's rule.
How life changed under Imperial occupation, it got better
Especially for Alderaan. Instant cessation of unemployment!
So Apparently I'm Corellian.
Maybe you should make a video comparing well known planets in the Star Wars universe to geographical locations in our world.
Heres a suggestion:
What if Snoke was the third death star?
@Cliven Longsight No you dont get it, look at snokes big round grey colored head. Rings a bell?
Empire protecc, Empire attacc, But more importantly, Empire strikes bacc
I didn't know Indiana Jones was from Corellia
He was not. It is why Expanded Edition sucked, forgetting why conartist like Han would shoot first. Gladly Solo movie show both aspects of this character, instead treating him like Marry Sue. What cause hater-babies outrage of course ;D
Good video, very cool topic.
In the beginning he said, “When the Empire turned into the Republic overnight....”
Cool video, could definitely be the start of a good series!!
Great video, let's explore more worlds!
“If I can’t have it, blow that shit up” -Emperor Palpatine
So did you made a video of what did the rebels see empire that made them fight in the first place (besides order 66 and the death star).
1:06 artist had some good shrooms that day
Hey @or#Generation tech can i suggests a video about the imperial schools,academys and training please like what was the teaching like,combat you can learn and flying programs or sub ranks or branches,jobs a person can do?
Don’t let Rebel propaganda blind you citizens. Your Empire is helping you and will always love you
Out of it as soon as you starting explaining what this episode was about the first planet that popped into my head was Corellia, then low and behold it was the opening planet on the list!! Love your channel keep it up. #Humanity first!!
I mean, in almost every case the Rebels have shot first. I used to be an Empire fan but I realized that the Rebels were just better. The Rebels also have caused more civilian deaths when they attack an Imperial convoy or something.
"Admiral Versio... the time has come... Execute Order 67."
"Operation: Cinder...?"
"Yes. That. Do that."
Nice one xD
If the emperors grace can’t have the magnificent buitys of the empire no one deserves it
Dont know if it was the tarsian Ale or Maybe my Wookiee Helmsman/Butler forgot to turn off his opera channel or maybe the Engine room alarm light buzzer is getting a tad bit loud... did you say. "The Empire turned into the Republic overnight..." ?
Long live the glorious empire!
Cool shirt man
1:07 why is there a soilder with Nazi armband?
Because Chewie hates nazis
What video game is that you showed clips from?
Han "we'll have you flying in no time" Solo
Got a major question I can't find a vid on on TH-cam how did the empire teach about the jedi ? This I started thinking about after the moment when canan reveals his a jedi, the way the imperials reacted made me.think about this
Can you do the first year of the empire?
What ever happened to Sluis Van shipyards? I haven't read a lot of new canon books but I haven't heard it mentioned at all and it was one of the main shipyards in Legends. I've been reading the Thrawn Trilogy and the attack on Sluis Van was the main plot point in the first book
1:07 swastica on imperial trooper fighting a wookie
What are the animated scenes from?
Out of curiosity, how would you rework the sequel trilogy? A lot of youtobrrs have given their two cents; and since you’re such a big star wars fan, I’d love to hear your take.
1:06.... a wookie riding a giant squirrel.....
You should do life under rebel occupation after the battle of endor
3:33 Is that blood on the floor?
1:07 this image is wild
i would like to know how life on Coruscant changed. It's a global city that like 5th century Rome and Constantinople cannot rely on itself and food had to be imported from elswhere but was still a vital commercial and administrative hub. The Empire would need to decide if that is effective or not
Allen you're awesome
Sure enjoyed Vardos, would’ve liked to see more of it (the SW BFII campaigns with Operation Cinder spoiled it drastically)
What about Risa? I hear it’s still a great vacation spot.
Argue which system is better!!!
I would say the Empire pretty much sowed the seeds of its own destruction, but the seeds were planted before the Empire was offically born!