Ceil Yurie well I mean not really. In legends he was only defeated because the rebels went behind his back with the noghri, and he trusted rukh too much
@@shadow7037932 "Legends has a lot of cool characters we'll probably never see" played correctly "in a mainline film." I would not trust Disney-Lucasfilm to cast a paper bag right.
And there's the worse type, the _bloodthirsty officer._ They will gun down moisture farmers while questioning them about some droids they just bought, instead of offering them compensation and a reward for information. If you sent a good Imperial instead, not only would the droids be in Imperial custody, but the moisture farmers nephew would be willing to sign up for Imperial training because the reward money and replacement droids supplied by the Empire would mean he could leave the farm. *New Recruit:* Ah-ah-ah Lord Vader…umm, what do you want with me? *Vader:* You blood test revealed a very high midiclorin count, what is you name. *Recruit:* L-Luke Skywalker sir. *Vader:* The fuck? [You're allowed one "fuck" in a PG film] You're from Tatooine, that bastard Kenobi hid you in plain sight. *Recruit Luke Skywalker:* Ben Kenobi?
Jack Rutledge Goembel well I mean he said that he wanted to at the start of a new hope, and had he met a good imperial who served for the maintenance of peace he may have went ahead with it
Classic Batman origin tale - kill future hero's parents / family which put hero on path against the antagonist. *Warning* the rest is a rant against Disney's first Star Wars movie. If your a female named Rey you get to skip any such hero origin stories because your born with political agenda armor and master feminist level light saber skills. And because she is so emotionally sensitive that she's now force sensitive. /end rant Vader, Luke, random commenter, your next, tell us how you really feel?
@@jackrutledgegoembel5896 News flash, most imperial military personnel don't, either. Add the fact that the Sith loves to corrupt people through subtle manipulation and yes, if he were chased by any of the decent Imperial admirals and he'd have been funneled into the maws of the system. That's actually an oft forgotten evil genius in Palpatine's empire.
@@mikegallant811 KDF intelligence maybe but the others not so much the ISB is much more in the open and acknowledged in the military command structure then the other 3 although both the tal shiar and obsidian order where hated and fear by the military S31 was questioned as to if it exsisted
Ideally you'd want to have the Genius as the overall commander, the Good Imperials as the higher staff and company leadership, and fill in the cracks with Low Key types at company level and below. "TK496, you've been a Corporal in this unit for 20 years. Don't you want a transfer to another division and get a promotion?" "Nope."
As an E-4 I had to run interference for a glory hound lieutenant for a couple of years. He was all about his image and doing things to be noticed, no matter how much more work or wrecked equipment (and vehicles!) he got wrecked in the process. And to top it off, he couldn't keep track of things like his helmet, his weapon, his pens, his radio code book, the keys to things, or what we were supposed to be doing on the training schedule. I am so glad I never had to enter combat near that guy.
The psycphant Rick mentioned was a prime example of why fragging incidents would take place. Vietnam was gearerd for this due to low morale and bad command decisions throughout that war.
@@CommissarTommy22 I agree. I'd have a pint with Piett during off hours, then light up a cigarette when we see the A-Wing barreling towards us: "Well, at least we had a good run."
@@GlidingZephyr I'd be coming to the table with some Nabooian wine where you guys are and then look out the viewport and go "That dudes getting pretty close. I'm sure the point defense will get em." 🤣
Welcome back to Death Star comedy bar! "Ever notice that Imperial Troopers stand like this, and Shock Troopers stand like that?" Entire room in wraps with laughter
While ISB officers are quietly observing from the back to make sure that there is no- "Vader stands like this and the emperor cackles like thahahaha-t" (blasterbolt fired by ISB officer)
I always wondered why Star Wars Battlefront II (2017) had Admiral Versio call Admiral Piett a ''fool''. On the face of it, the immediate reaction is to point out that Piett sincerely did very little if anything ''wrong'' at Endor. He followed his orders to the letter. He stayed in position and although the Rebels did swarm the Executor in an all out attack deliberately intended to overwhelm the flagship of the Imperial fleet at Endor, there is no indication that Piett was given leave to fight proactively and coordinate his fleet. Upon closer consideration, however, one could see the point that Piett had become all too talented at surviving the political machinations and spats of the dog eat dog Imperial officer hierarchy, but had not necessarily the wit or talent to be a particularly successful officer in battles. It is hard to highlight Piett's major tactical or strategic talents. However, I do appreciate how he even got to earn Vader's trust to any extent. Then again, perhaps Vader knew he was only superficially talented and wanted him to fail. It's hard to tell with Vader (as they keep adding to his story all the time, especially in comics; changing goal posts comes to mind) At a glance I'd say that Admiral Versio was a bit harsh, but perhaps not entirely wrong from a certain point of view (**Obi Wan voice**) Maybe it was just bad word choice in the game cinematic but I honestly think with the expressiveness of how they had Admiral Versio react to the loss of the Executor, he did genuinely have a preexisting problem with Piett, and this dismayed Versio enough to make him react the way he did. I mean, losing the Executor was really heartbreaking for so much of the Imperial Navy (not just the fleet at Endor) It was devastating. Many of the finest naval officers in the entire Galactic Empire, handpicked for their talents and professionalism (as well as ruthlessness) were on board her when she was obliterated. Of course, when the DSII itself was lost, this loss was compounded even more horrifically for the Empire. Personally I really like the character of Admiral Versio, though I did not like how they made his character lose faith in the Empire once and for all during the Battle of Jakku. He went down with his ISD Eviscerator at Jakku, but the tentacles of politically correct agendas crept in (like it did with a lot of that game's story mission, which basically lied to people saying it was about being an Imperial loyalist properly, not just becoming an Imperial traitor in literally a few missions after the start - by the time they get to Vardos it turns on a penny and changes completely into an SJW pandering waste of time just to get the player to Jakku etc) I'd have preferred Admiral Versio to rebuff and dismiss his daughter for being a rebel traitor, but to express an acceptance that the Empire had indeed lost. That would have been sufficiently moving to demonstrate he was still a realistic thinker and not a blind fanatic to the Empire. Suddenly agreeing with Iden that the Empire had a profound weakness, seemed too forced and out of the blue. Up until then he'd been adamantly loyal to the Empire. Going down with his ship was a fair touch, but it leaves you wondering what the point of that really is. I get why he'd want to die with the Empire, too institutionalised to let it go fully, but why else might he have preferred to die on Jakku? Two possible explanations might be: 1. That he was unwilling to become a prisoner of the New Republic, considering he clearly knew about the Contingency Plan of Gallius Rax and the Emperor in Operation Cinder, and about the extrication of some Imperial survivors and assets into the Unknown Regions to reform as a new power. In other words; he knew too much. Therefore, electing to die with his ship, he could keep his pride and still deny the New Republic information (even if he saw the Empire as weak and no longer functional by this point, as the game clearly hits you over the head with) This way, he could still be in two minds with a foot on each side of the door, so to speak, on his views about the Empire. That said, he did seem pretty sure the Empire was finished before he died. 2. That he became disillusioned by the Empire in it's death-throws particularly during Operation Cinder - I mean, the dude inflicted a meteorological catastrophe on his own homeworld such was his loyalty to the Empire. It would weigh heavy on the heart, particularly as his own daughter was so (rightly) angered by the betrayal to the loyal imperial citizens of Vardos. Again, it is clear the biased game was trying to draw those comparisons to the collapse of the Third Reich as hard as it could (during the final days of the Third Reich, Hitler did indeed order the Nazis to destroy all German infrastructure - if the Germans couldn't have it, no-one would; so the comparison does have a basis in reality, however, this is Star Wars, and I think Palpatine would be a bit more pragmatic than that; besides, the Third Reich was already in ruins before those orders were given)
Still, it just does not make enough sense to me. I do know about Palpatine's Contingency Plan and I get the point behind it, but a lot of it is debatable - I get why a Sith Lord would spitefully hate the Empire he caused to come into being, if it "failed to protect him" in their view; but regardless of that, wouldn't the Sith still hate the Rebels/Republic more anyway? From my point of view, Palpatine would be like, ''fine, rebel scum, you can reconquer the galaxy if I'm gone - but you'll have to take every f***ing planet by force and suffer the higher death-tolls for your trouble!". He'd deliberately want the Rebels to bleed as much as possible. This is why I don't believe he'd want to accelerate the Empire's own collapse by purging totally loyal Imperial worlds. Palpatine was a sadistic megalomaniac who loved killing things. It makes a lot more sense he'd target his posthumous fury at the rebels, not his own side. I get the comparisons to WWII history etc but you know...I think Palpatine would go the other way on this strategic choice. Rather than punish his own side for his own mistakes (just making him more of a cartoon caricature being super evil for no reason), he'd be *pragmatically evil* in the sense that he'd want to make absolutely sure that the rebels suffered as much as physically and mentally possible, before any chance of final victory. He'd know the Empire would probably lose without him and Vader, but that at least the New Republic was left in a much weaker state for his contingency relocation into the Unknown Regions, to later come back with more effectiveness against a more depopulated New Republic. In the cold light of military strategy, Palpatine would want to *bleed the galaxy dry* before giving it over to the rebels/New Republic. It's why I can't help but wonder if Piett, Versio and other Imperial Admirals, might have turned the tide had Palpatine let them operate properly. Piett was overshadowed and limited by Vader, Versio was tied to subordinate command to more powerful Imperials than himself though was considered a fine Admiral and he clearly held the line for the Empire at Bespin in the Anoat Sector, post-Endor (at least, temporarily, until they were inevitably forced to retreat) Palpatine would probably be more than happy for the best Admirals in the Empire to run riot on the New Republic and give them as much hell as possible. What we got in SWBFII was more or less Admiral Versio screening and protecting Operation Cinder as long as possible and losing his life like most of the rest of the Imperial remnants seem to have at Jakku.
P.S - I am not overly fond of the Battle of Jakku. It has it's charms but generally it strikes me as a Deus Ex Machina to just get the Empire together like a bunch of skittles and bowl them down in one strike. I don't like it (making it worse was how that was kind of the point; Gallius Rax never intended for the Imperial loyalists under his command to survive at Jakku, intending to destroy the entire planet instead killing everyone on both sides involved in the battle save for a few authorised Imperials escaping into the Unknown Regions - this would not end the New Republic as a threat, just severely damage it, though) I'm generally unimpressed with how badly the Empire got dumped on since 2015. It was clearly the aim of Disney to paint the New Republic as the brave comrades fighting the patriarchy. I mean, for f***'s sake, SWBFII (up to Jakku) largely covers a philosophical difference between father and daughter - with his own daughter trying to bring him down. Think about it. Not even remotely subliminal.
I love your comment. Also, it's great to see a fellow CANZUK supporter (I presume?), and I agree the Empire has been dumped on. The Post Endor story seemed far more believable in the Expanded Universe where the war continued for a long time before a treaty was signed, and eventually the Fel Empire was formed. As a monarchist, I felt my beliefs had a great _representation_ with the Fel Empire.
Oh boy, it's time for the Tarkin Doctrine Rant! The Tarkin Doctrine is not only brutal and cruel, but also ineffective in the sheer weight it places on psychological warfare. Perfectly good Republic designs were cast out to maximize fear over effectiveness. The transition from the still powerful and reliable AT-TE to the inflexible, surprisingly vulnerable, overlarge AT-AT is a perfect example of this. Rule by fear as a strategy is a very difficult one to maintain. It is possible, but it takes a very delicate balance to keep the populace and one's subordinates in line while not provoking outrage that would destabilize your rule. The Tarkin Doctrine overlooked this. Imperial rule was brutal because of the Sith ideology that permeated almost every level of it. Thus, outraged subjects formed the Rebel Alliance. However, it's the Tarkin Doctrine's neurotic obsession with fear that sealed the final nail in the coffin. The weaknesses in Imperial forces lead to the opposite outcome when rebels exploited them and won. It's like building a massive skyscraper that relies too much on one support beam. When that reliance on said support beam causes the whole building to come down, the people won't remeber its massive size, they'll remember it crashing down.
I'd hang with Veers and hopefully become a Stormtrooper field captain and get shit done, earning my squad/company the title to of "The Hellhounds" or something badass 😂
@@chrissonofpear1384 Veers seems pritty cool in the EU. Thrawn respected him. he was intelligent and honorable. If brutal to the rebels. I like him: inteligent, brutal and honorable who love/d his wife (a man after my own heart). In cannon he is even more of a nice gie (he is described as intelligent, honorable and a family man). and he is the star wars equvilent of a tanker and engineer. in legends he like the AT-AT but recognised its faults, and tried to improved it.
You NAILED this. Someone's studied individual leaders and techniques of Great Military Leaders. This was really well done. (Kallus is a 'Good Officer' who is overwhelmed by his moral compass, and I have know doubt did an even better at uniting Fulcrum activities once a member of the Alliance -- which will include Cassian Andor.) ... "Generals become restless when there is no war to fight," which I truly believe was a spur to the flank of what become the First Order. Constantine is my favorite "Oh you did NOT just do THAT!" and it was quickly resolved. Head down, mouth shut, fly your mission, when you defect in the middle of a battle, you'll be reported as KIA. Immediately become some one else. Start your own Outer Rim business.
Vitiate's would wipe the floor with Revan's Sith Empire. There's a 300 year tech gap between them and I'm sure Vitiate had more than a few thousand Sith and dark siders at his disposal 😂
most military officer exists on a three-axis graph: incompetent to competent selfish to dedicated merciful to ruthless Avoid "incompetent selfish ruthless", "incompetent dedicated ruthless", "incompetent selfish merciful", "competent selfish ruthless".
I think Staz should be a seventh category, the Troopers Best Friend. He’s there with you, beside you, risking his life, so he’ll get noticed for the love his Troops have for them.
I thought you were going to actually say the different ranks not explain good and bad officers. You should do a video about that. From Storm Trooper to emperor.
These basic officer types translate to the real world too. The first Captain of my Navy ship was the low key type. A full Captain 06 putting in his time on my Frigate (he should have been commanding a Cruiser) before going to a landside Staff job. He let the XO actually command the ship. Our next Captain was a hard charging young Commander eager to show his stuff. In wartime he'd be a Glory Hound. We had a couple young Sycophants too. As butter bars - ensigns - they were easy to make fools of without their realizing it. Fun and games!
*Different Types of Mandalorians* *The Bloodthirsty:* Your Montross type, only the sadistic pleasure from hunting and killing prey, matters to them. Money and glory mean nothing, to raid and pillage is it's own reward. *The Honoured Warrior:* Proud of their peoples way's. They strive to test themselves through battle and don't hold grudges or downplay the skills of their adversary's should they be defeated by them in a worthy fight. They are Perfectly happy to swap stories and raise a glass with them, in the next life. Legendary figures like, Canderous Ordo, or Fenn Rau embodied this. *The Petty Conqueror:* Victory is all that matters to these kinds of people, like Pre Viszla and the Saxon's. They will use any underhanded cowardly tactic they can to ensure their twisted interpretation of their culture is the top dog. Even kill their own men if they are defeated. Honor is just a pretense to maintain their power and dominance, a means to continue to lord over those too weak to fight back. All for the sake of their petty pride. *The Stoic:* Professional, pragmatic, with a heart wrapped in Beskar. These kinds of Mando's like the Fett's and Din Djarin, keep to themselves and can be relied on to get the job done, without any drama. But there's still humanity underneath, whether it's small acts of kindness like sharing some water with a dying man. Looking out for their family, no matter who or what they are. Or simply flattering a old Toydarian lady your friendly with, and raising a son. These fellows may say little, but they feel big. *The Rebellious:* These colourful, expressive, and loyal, types, like Sabine Wren may look less intimidating, but don't let their bright demeanor confuse you. Their just as fierce as any son and daughter of Mandalore, and may be hiding some blackness that stains their conscious.
@@stevenquinlivan7096 Yes, but try and convince them of that. Oh wait they don't care. Never said all of them would be positive examples. Have to acknowledge the spectrum, from the lowest to the heighest. (in no particular order()
The one character that combines both the epitome of Good Imperial and Old Navy is Grand Admiral Gilad Pellaeon from the Star Wars EU/Legends. I was hoping to see his name pop up in the Good Imperial category but... nadda. The EU/Legends offers some good and interesting examples of Imperial Officers from high ranking admirals to Tie fighter pilots that would fit within these categories... and probably create new categories as well.
How cool would it be if he TAs for one of our courses? I might actually get an A for once without having to resort to a force mind sway and hand wave at my teacher.
@@dzod that's the problem with education in the US. From grade 1 thru college its all about information regurgitation. Unless you specifically take a [good] philosophy class, free thought and questioning the status quo (the current system and the way things currently are) is discouraged. Why? because new [and possible better] ideas can challenge current systems [govts] and those that hold power. And while even an elected politician will deny it, any person with power dislikes giving it up - They aren't "Sith lord evil", its just human nature.
He was the one who gave the order to shoot down Grievous ship with Anakin, Palpatine, and Obi-wan still on it during the Battle of Coruscant (in EP III). Vader was just looking for an excuse to kill him.
My favorite after Thrawn is still always going to be Malavai Quinn, that magnificent bastard is the only person who tried to kill my character that I left alive. Because he's quite simply too good an officer to kill.
She's a governor not an officer. Think of a governor of a state being commander and chief of his or her states national guard or a leader of a country being the commander and chief of a country's entire military despite never serving in said military.
Pairing the good imperial with the genius could have guaranteed that the Empire won the war. Especially if you also utilize the old navy personal to mentor the good imperial
You forgot the Ruthless Officer. They are the officers Palpatine shows the highest preference in his forces and general go far in the ranks of the Imperial Forces. With many achieving the highest rank in the Imperial Military. With some, even allowed to command officers of different military branches because they generally have the favor of the Emperor or the favor of officers the Emperor likes. To the point Palpatine will create new military ranks, like Grand General, to give to his favorites more power within his organization. More then likely Tarkin would be given Sumperme Moff if he actually destroyed the base at Yavin IV, even if it was empty of rebels. These officers often believe that the ends justify the means and do not care how they achieve success, so long as they achieve success. Due to this mentality, they usually gain and give out to those under them a lot of leeways when it comes to following laws and regulations. And generally gain a lot of prestige just for simply accomplishing a victory, even its a phyric victory. Serving under a Ruthless Officer general gives you a lot of prestige and leeway. As generally, these officers could care less about regs as long as their subordinates get results. And simply being in under a Ruthless Officer general gets a lot of fanfare when it comes to the Imperial propaganda machine, especially if they have a track record of success. However, these officers also generally have the highest casualties in their military force due to only caring about results. If they don't straight up kill them due to failing too many times for they can't let their incompetence hurt their record. They also generally don't get along with other Ruthless Officers of similar ranks, so those under them can be expected to be caught in a heated rivalry between these officers, and they will likely have a higher kill count of Imperials then entire Rebel Cells. Plus, those under them will more likely commit war crimes even under Imperial standards. Examples: Dark Lord Vader, Grand Moff Tarkin, Director Krennic, Admiral Versio, and Grand General Tagge.
You forgot another officer : Important Character : These officers always have plot armor equipped, along with multiple weapons, one of which being the Magic Pistol, capable of killing everything with a single shot. These officers are perfect in every way with no explanation. Not only that, these officers always win against every minor character, such as Rebel Soldier #2768.
6 types of imperial officer: 1 is lainess and coward 2 is a very responsible officer 3 is a dedicated officer and do his/her duty 4 is a wise officer that can predict enemies attack (like Thrawn) 5 is a cruel and overconfidence officer (Grand moff Tarkin) 6 the officer who always get punish or worse executed by their laziness or simple mistakes
Might seem like a generalization, but while these all don't directly translate into our actual military rest assured there are usually easy to spot "types"...just two being... Butter Bars - These kids are fresh out of OCS and are riding high off being put in charge of other human beings, problem is while they "technically" outrank them Sergeant Majors and Gunners (USMC) have FAR more experience, the smart 2nd Lt. will listen and learn from them, the butter bar though...well they'll either fail to get a clue and leave the service for civilian work (and continue to crow about being an officer however briefly), or they'll run afoul of a Sergeant or equivalent who will dress them down so hard Vader himself would beam with pride...with the added benefit that they "might" survive long enough to get a clue. Mustangs - Closest equivalent in the video would be the Old Navy type. These guys were enlisted who managed to become officers. While not all of them are good with some forgetting where they came from (thanks to "A combat veteran" for that phrasing) most are decent...but they were enlisted long enough to know BS, they usually won't miss a trick so it's better to stay on their good side and not even try. (Bonus type) The Sergent Major/Gunner - Yes this is an enlisted rank but when it comes to experience, clout, pull, and attitude most are officers in all but name. Smart officers will respect them and defer to them, going over their heads to the officer in "charge" is a gamble since the smart officer will usually be more inclined to believe them then you. Seriously the good ones are the kind Vader probably loves to work with since their job is based on reliability and results.
I was thinking...That big "Woosh!" when Darth Palpy was tossed into the reactor, was Him using an ability to open a wormhole/vortex/flow transfer etc, etc that can only be opened by a HUGE amount of Force that drains anyone from their Force abilities. Rectum...Damn near killed him. I Digress...Great Video Asian Al. cheers
Or into the, er, World Between Worlds, from Rebels yes - as some have theorised. Previously, the 'whoosh' was assumed to be a violent release of unstable Force energy he was releasing.
The Yuuzhan Vong vs Star Trek galaxy Post Dominion War about 5-10 years after DS9. Yuuzhan Vong land in between the Alpha Quadrant and Delta quadrant there by being far from the Dominion and Federation's monitoring.
Those 2 huge super powers with a ton of allies each will absolutely CRUSH the Vong in a combined fleet battle once they see how Vong are.. HOWEVER basically ALL the Trek ground forces are laughably under armed. With little apparent body armor and not much more then 1 or 2 grenades and a sidearm each along with their rifles and carbines which to THEM is heavily armed. So the Vong ground forces will probably easily crush most ALL Trek planet forces unless maybe Species 8472 or the Borg ALSO help beat them. Unless Koral Skippers and Vong tech easily strip Trek shields too.. then if sheer numbers isnt enough the Trek verse is screwed.
@Amber Hoke maybe but THAT is a desperate tactic to unconventionally defeat a much stronger enemy you otherwise will lose to in a strait fight no even if you sent everything you had holding nothing back alongside all your allies AND temporary former enemies all trying to beat otherwise way stronger mutual foes.. you do that too or 1st cuz you know odds of you beating them without it are slim or none.. the Borg are nearly IMPOSSIBLE to beat. Very few 8472 species can beat them ESPECIALLY in 1v1, much less overwhelm them which even fewer can manage without considerable effort, large forces and usually fighting already weakened Borg. An Vong are basically the only SW faction that SPECIFICALLY uses tech that strips shields entirely. But they also rival the Kaminoans in their understanding of genetics maybe even more. Should 31s "adapt the deadly anti Founder virus to use on these Vong" tactic fail. They're done if that was their last hope
An interesting thing is, if I lived in that would, I could pretty well have ended up on the imperial side, too... though being someone on their own could also be a chance, if I could get there. I mean, in reality, I'm favoring the imperial kind of government, just with the right emperor. Concentrating power to a single person has a potential to be a more efficient system, though a wrong person is likely to emerge... not like they don't anyway, so meh.
Same. In everything i saw the rebels hadn't provided anything other than "restore the Republic" the government that failed and birthed the Empire. I'd rather work for and change the Empire, and when the "disillusionment" phase of the good imperial came, I'd probably phase into the low key, or a psuedo-old navy
I know it’s not canon, but in Lego Star Wars: The Freemaker Adventures, there’s an officer who’s tries to be as mediocre as possible so as to not get in trouble, but also not get any responsibilities so he never disappoints Vader.
I have 6 imperial officers 1st: idiots who act like they know something but actually don't 2nd: idiots who are smart but their strategies fail due to not thinking ahead 3rd: officers who are too cocky and fail very horribly 4th: just pure officers who cannot think ahead of their failures and just die 5th: officers who can think smart and help to make the empire stronger and give their lives for imperial victory 6th: officers who are the best of the best and lead to complete imperial victory and make the emperor promote them
Sorry, but once I notice something Kallusly done, I cannot help but Konstantine focusing on and Tarkin about it. 0:31 at 0.25 speed, the screen casts a dark glow off the camer-Allens, angled from Veering off of the designated landing zone --- the Hand. AlPiett the Sloanelly improving issues, the fuzzier graphic looks better. Ozzel, I wonder what would happen to the Life Tree when the coming Life Day arrives. If less Motti, Yul ar, en you were to simply show the real thing, e-Vaderd my checks you would have, and wasted less of everyone's time. Hmm? *Then I would have that* Tea/Kake, 4-2. Won, *everyone would have.*
If I was forced into service, wither by the empire itself, or just my station in life is aspire to be a good imperial, and make a difference in the empire after seeing the radical, and bloody way of their command, and fear tactics
Missed out on the political officer, which Tarkin, Krennic, and Grand Admiral Savit all play into. They are the officers that aren't necessarily great at combat, but know how politics work, which has allowed them to climb the imperial ladder and even gain the favor of the emperor.
If I lived in this time I'd love to work under thrawn or wulf yalren. I feel like they would be really good/chill ones as long as you did as you were told
I have an OC who starts out as a classic "Good Imperial" - she's a sentientologist and diplomat tasked with maintaining peace with nonhumans in the Outer Rim - but ultimately ends up defecting to the Rebellion because of incompetent leadership and institutionalized discrimination. This video is very helpful for developing my character's backstory!
"Rick"... does that mean you was named after "Rick Grimes"??? Was his mother's name "Maggie"?? It would explain all them close calls and last second escapes from them dangerous Dolphin hoards.
I cant remember the actors name who played admiral ozzel but he was in a uk drama tv series back in the 80s called "grange hill" in which he played a stuffy nosed uptight school teacher which was about the lives of the students and teachers in a school called grange hill.
A guiding principle, first formalized by some swabbie in the REAL US Navy, has applicability inside and outside any military. "Never be first. Never be last. Never volunteer." If you can do it without drawing attention to yourself, you'll eventually advance quickly, as your contemporaries winnow themselves out by ignoring that wisdom.
Thrawn was probably the best to serve under. Even if you failed he would rather put you somewhere where you can still be useful instead of just killing you for making a mistake you could learn from and improve from.
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Every time I hear about Thrawn I like him more. He’s just such a cool character
Yup. Legends has a lot of cool characters we'll probably never see in a mainline film.
Jack Spinner yea but vender is better
Sadly, even thrawn is vulnerable to characters with Plot Armor.
Ceil Yurie well I mean not really. In legends he was only defeated because the rebels went behind his back with the noghri, and he trusted rukh too much
@@shadow7037932 "Legends has a lot of cool characters we'll probably never see" played correctly "in a mainline film."
I would not trust Disney-Lucasfilm to cast a paper bag right.
And there's the worse type, the _bloodthirsty officer._ They will gun down moisture farmers while questioning them about some droids they just bought, instead of offering them compensation and a reward for information.
If you sent a good Imperial instead, not only would the droids be in Imperial custody, but the moisture farmers nephew would be willing to sign up for Imperial training because the reward money and replacement droids supplied by the Empire would mean he could leave the farm.
*New Recruit:* Ah-ah-ah Lord Vader…umm, what do you want with me?
*Vader:* You blood test revealed a very high midiclorin count, what is you name.
*Recruit:* L-Luke Skywalker sir.
*Vader:* The fuck? [You're allowed one "fuck" in a PG film]
You're from Tatooine, that bastard Kenobi hid you in plain sight.
*Recruit Luke Skywalker:* Ben Kenobi?
Luke wouldn't join the empire. He doesn't have that fascist spirit
Jack Rutledge Goembel well I mean he said that he wanted to at the start of a new hope, and had he met a good imperial who served for the maintenance of peace he may have went ahead with it
Brilliant!!!
Classic Batman origin tale - kill future hero's parents / family which put hero on path against the antagonist. *Warning* the rest is a rant against Disney's first Star Wars movie. If your a female named Rey you get to skip any such hero origin stories because your born with political agenda armor and master feminist level light saber skills. And because she is so emotionally sensitive that she's now force sensitive. /end rant Vader, Luke, random commenter, your next, tell us how you really feel?
@@jackrutledgegoembel5896 News flash, most imperial military personnel don't, either.
Add the fact that the Sith loves to corrupt people through subtle manipulation and yes, if he were chased by any of the decent Imperial admirals and he'd have been funneled into the maws of the system.
That's actually an oft forgotten evil genius in Palpatine's empire.
I'd love to serve under Thrawn. I'd be fine with a good imperial or an old navy who isn't Tarkin.
Just remember, even Thrawn is vulnerable to the plans of those with Plot Armor
The officer you want is Pelleon. One of a few good imperials who started young and lived to old age.
According to Timothy Zhan, some ex US Army or US Marines who had read the Thrawn trilogy told him the same thing.
@@ceilyurie856 Very true. But I'd proudly get whisked off by space whales alongside that magnificent blue bastard.
@@thundercrash4775 Pelleon is underrated. I would gladly serve under him.
Great video but keep in mind that Colonel Yularen was in the ISB, the Empire’s equivalent of the FBI and KGB rolled into one.
And if you're a trekker,the Tal Shiar,Obsidian Order,Section 31,and KDF Intelligence!
@@mikegallant811 KDF intelligence maybe but the others not so much the ISB is much more in the open and acknowledged in the military command structure then the other 3 although both the tal shiar and obsidian order where hated and fear by the military S31 was questioned as to if it exsisted
Excuse me but did you just say the empire wasn't perfect. Looks like someones planet is about to be eliminated
Jokes on you we're in the unknown region
Sounds more like something the Imperium would do
Jonathan Swavely yes my brother for the emperor the god emperor
@@atomicarchive3381 Death to the corpse emprah!!!!
Ah the negotiator
Ideally you'd want to have the Genius as the overall commander, the Good Imperials as the higher staff and company leadership, and fill in the cracks with Low Key types at company level and below.
"TK496, you've been a Corporal in this unit for 20 years. Don't you want a transfer to another division and get a promotion?"
"Nope."
Rick are you a clone of Alan, made by dolphins to take over the world.
He has an octopus brain
RIP Alan, he fought till the end
I have a dolphin hanging up in my room. Killed it and found some suspicious technology with it...
That explains a lot, I was noticing something "fishy" about his actions.
His name isn't Rick now, it's Allan.
As an E-4 I had to run interference for a glory hound lieutenant for a couple of years. He was all about his image and doing things to be noticed, no matter how much more work or wrecked equipment (and vehicles!) he got wrecked in the process. And to top it off, he couldn't keep track of things like his helmet, his weapon, his pens, his radio code book, the keys to things, or what we were supposed to be doing on the training schedule. I am so glad I never had to enter combat near that guy.
The psycphant Rick mentioned was a prime example of why fragging incidents would take place. Vietnam was gearerd for this due to low morale and bad command decisions throughout that war.
Petition to replace Alan with this new “Rick” guy
Sign it by reading my profile
@Wilhelm II. *They're Socialists, my Kaiser.
@@drip9210 COMMIE?
I wonder if there is a British and American Rick?
Rick is an octopus controlled by dolphins dont fall for his charms
I would be mates with Piett, seems like a decent fella
All is well until the Super Star Destroyer goes down
@@CBRN-115 That's alright, I'll say a few words at his memorial and then pester his widow for the 10 credits he owed me
@@CommissarTommy22 I agree. I'd have a pint with Piett during off hours, then light up a cigarette when we see the A-Wing barreling towards us: "Well, at least we had a good run."
@@GlidingZephyr One last fist bump
@@GlidingZephyr I'd be coming to the table with some Nabooian wine where you guys are and then look out the viewport and go "That dudes getting pretty close. I'm sure the point defense will get em." 🤣
Welcome back to Death Star comedy bar! "Ever notice that Imperial Troopers stand like this, and Shock Troopers stand like that?"
Entire room in wraps with laughter
While ISB officers are quietly observing from the back to make sure that there is no- "Vader stands like this and the emperor cackles like thahahaha-t" (blasterbolt fired by ISB officer)
The one you should have mentioned in "good imperials", is definitely Moff Jerjerrod. He was very humane, and morally orientated
I always wondered why Star Wars Battlefront II (2017) had Admiral Versio call Admiral Piett a ''fool''. On the face of it, the immediate reaction is to point out that Piett sincerely did very little if anything ''wrong'' at Endor. He followed his orders to the letter. He stayed in position and although the Rebels did swarm the Executor in an all out attack deliberately intended to overwhelm the flagship of the Imperial fleet at Endor, there is no indication that Piett was given leave to fight proactively and coordinate his fleet.
Upon closer consideration, however, one could see the point that Piett had become all too talented at surviving the political machinations and spats of the dog eat dog Imperial officer hierarchy, but had not necessarily the wit or talent to be a particularly successful officer in battles. It is hard to highlight Piett's major tactical or strategic talents. However, I do appreciate how he even got to earn Vader's trust to any extent. Then again, perhaps Vader knew he was only superficially talented and wanted him to fail. It's hard to tell with Vader (as they keep adding to his story all the time, especially in comics; changing goal posts comes to mind)
At a glance I'd say that Admiral Versio was a bit harsh, but perhaps not entirely wrong from a certain point of view (**Obi Wan voice**)
Maybe it was just bad word choice in the game cinematic but I honestly think with the expressiveness of how they had Admiral Versio react to the loss of the Executor, he did genuinely have a preexisting problem with Piett, and this dismayed Versio enough to make him react the way he did. I mean, losing the Executor was really heartbreaking for so much of the Imperial Navy (not just the fleet at Endor) It was devastating.
Many of the finest naval officers in the entire Galactic Empire, handpicked for their talents and professionalism (as well as ruthlessness) were on board her when she was obliterated. Of course, when the DSII itself was lost, this loss was compounded even more horrifically for the Empire.
Personally I really like the character of Admiral Versio, though I did not like how they made his character lose faith in the Empire once and for all during the Battle of Jakku. He went down with his ISD Eviscerator at Jakku, but the tentacles of politically correct agendas crept in (like it did with a lot of that game's story mission, which basically lied to people saying it was about being an Imperial loyalist properly, not just becoming an Imperial traitor in literally a few missions after the start - by the time they get to Vardos it turns on a penny and changes completely into an SJW pandering waste of time just to get the player to Jakku etc)
I'd have preferred Admiral Versio to rebuff and dismiss his daughter for being a rebel traitor, but to express an acceptance that the Empire had indeed lost.
That would have been sufficiently moving to demonstrate he was still a realistic thinker and not a blind fanatic to the Empire. Suddenly agreeing with Iden that the Empire had a profound weakness, seemed too forced and out of the blue. Up until then he'd been adamantly loyal to the Empire. Going down with his ship was a fair touch, but it leaves you wondering what the point of that really is. I get why he'd want to die with the Empire, too institutionalised to let it go fully, but why else might he have preferred to die on Jakku?
Two possible explanations might be:
1. That he was unwilling to become a prisoner of the New Republic, considering he clearly knew about the Contingency Plan of Gallius Rax and the Emperor in Operation Cinder, and about the extrication of some Imperial survivors and assets into the Unknown Regions to reform as a new power. In other words; he knew too much. Therefore, electing to die with his ship, he could keep his pride and still deny the New Republic information (even if he saw the Empire as weak and no longer functional by this point, as the game clearly hits you over the head with)
This way, he could still be in two minds with a foot on each side of the door, so to speak, on his views about the Empire. That said, he did seem pretty sure the Empire was finished before he died.
2. That he became disillusioned by the Empire in it's death-throws particularly during Operation Cinder - I mean, the dude inflicted a meteorological catastrophe on his own homeworld such was his loyalty to the Empire. It would weigh heavy on the heart, particularly as his own daughter was so (rightly) angered by the betrayal to the loyal imperial citizens of Vardos.
Again, it is clear the biased game was trying to draw those comparisons to the collapse of the Third Reich as hard as it could (during the final days of the Third Reich, Hitler did indeed order the Nazis to destroy all German infrastructure - if the Germans couldn't have it, no-one would; so the comparison does have a basis in reality, however, this is Star Wars, and I think Palpatine would be a bit more pragmatic than that; besides, the Third Reich was already in ruins before those orders were given)
Still, it just does not make enough sense to me. I do know about Palpatine's Contingency Plan and I get the point behind it, but a lot of it is debatable - I get why a Sith Lord would spitefully hate the Empire he caused to come into being, if it "failed to protect him" in their view; but regardless of that, wouldn't the Sith still hate the Rebels/Republic more anyway? From my point of view, Palpatine would be like, ''fine, rebel scum, you can reconquer the galaxy if I'm gone - but you'll have to take every f***ing planet by force and suffer the higher death-tolls for your trouble!". He'd deliberately want the Rebels to bleed as much as possible. This is why I don't believe he'd want to accelerate the Empire's own collapse by purging totally loyal Imperial worlds.
Palpatine was a sadistic megalomaniac who loved killing things. It makes a lot more sense he'd target his posthumous fury at the rebels, not his own side. I get the comparisons to WWII history etc but you know...I think Palpatine would go the other way on this strategic choice. Rather than punish his own side for his own mistakes (just making him more of a cartoon caricature being super evil for no reason), he'd be *pragmatically evil* in the sense that he'd want to make absolutely sure that the rebels suffered as much as physically and mentally possible, before any chance of final victory.
He'd know the Empire would probably lose without him and Vader, but that at least the New Republic was left in a much weaker state for his contingency relocation into the Unknown Regions, to later come back with more effectiveness against a more depopulated New Republic. In the cold light of military strategy, Palpatine would want to *bleed the galaxy dry* before giving it over to the rebels/New Republic.
It's why I can't help but wonder if Piett, Versio and other Imperial Admirals, might have turned the tide had Palpatine let them operate properly. Piett was overshadowed and limited by Vader, Versio was tied to subordinate command to more powerful Imperials than himself though was considered a fine Admiral and he clearly held the line for the Empire at Bespin in the Anoat Sector, post-Endor (at least, temporarily, until they were inevitably forced to retreat)
Palpatine would probably be more than happy for the best Admirals in the Empire to run riot on the New Republic and give them as much hell as possible. What we got in SWBFII was more or less Admiral Versio screening and protecting Operation Cinder as long as possible and losing his life like most of the rest of the Imperial remnants seem to have at Jakku.
P.S - I am not overly fond of the Battle of Jakku. It has it's charms but generally it strikes me as a Deus Ex Machina to just get the Empire together like a bunch of skittles and bowl them down in one strike. I don't like it (making it worse was how that was kind of the point; Gallius Rax never intended for the Imperial loyalists under his command to survive at Jakku, intending to destroy the entire planet instead killing everyone on both sides involved in the battle save for a few authorised Imperials escaping into the Unknown Regions - this would not end the New Republic as a threat, just severely damage it, though)
I'm generally unimpressed with how badly the Empire got dumped on since 2015. It was clearly the aim of Disney to paint the New Republic as the brave comrades fighting the patriarchy. I mean, for f***'s sake, SWBFII (up to Jakku) largely covers a philosophical difference between father and daughter - with his own daughter trying to bring him down. Think about it. Not even remotely subliminal.
@@NightRaven-lh1bf I preferred my interpretation.
That is quite the comment.
I love your comment. Also, it's great to see a fellow CANZUK supporter (I presume?), and I agree the Empire has been dumped on. The Post Endor story seemed far more believable in the Expanded Universe where the war continued for a long time before a treaty was signed, and eventually the Fel Empire was formed. As a monarchist, I felt my beliefs had a great _representation_ with the Fel Empire.
My man really wrote a whole book.
How about an officer that has all 6 types of personality?
Peter Yim the Jedi Ofer during the clone wars!
@Sightless_Seeker ok
@@brianstabile165 meh I pass.
Obi Wan Kenobi, he is the one and only.
curtis wong YES
The empire did nothing wrong. The only mistake was the Tarkin Doctrine and their officers
It wasn't a war crime, we only shot retreating medics after they surrendered.
Oh boy, it's time for the Tarkin Doctrine Rant!
The Tarkin Doctrine is not only brutal and cruel, but also ineffective in the sheer weight it places on psychological warfare.
Perfectly good Republic designs were cast out to maximize fear over effectiveness. The transition from the still powerful and reliable AT-TE to the inflexible, surprisingly vulnerable, overlarge AT-AT is a perfect example of this. Rule by fear as a strategy is a very difficult one to maintain. It is possible, but it takes a very delicate balance to keep the populace and one's subordinates in line while not provoking outrage that would destabilize your rule. The Tarkin Doctrine overlooked this. Imperial rule was brutal because of the Sith ideology that permeated almost every level of it. Thus, outraged subjects formed the Rebel Alliance. However, it's the Tarkin Doctrine's neurotic obsession with fear that sealed the final nail in the coffin. The weaknesses in Imperial forces lead to the opposite outcome when rebels exploited them and won. It's like building a massive skyscraper that relies too much on one support beam. When that reliance on said support beam causes the whole building to come down, the people won't remeber its massive size, they'll remember it crashing down.
@@ryanlaurie8733 Technically it's a rebellion and not a war, so can't be war crime when there is no war.
And sinking too much money into the Death Star program
@@absboodoo rebellions tend to be wars when they become large enough and the rebel alliance definitely met that size
Piett was always my favourite. I loved how he made it 2 films!
The only Imperial Officer that has earned my respect is Admiral Piett.
@@gigachadjunior4729 How so? He's one of the few officers that my Master did not kill.
Piett, Peallaeon, maybe Veers, Lorth Needa perhaps...
I'd hang with Veers and hopefully become a Stormtrooper field captain and get shit done, earning my squad/company the title to of "The Hellhounds" or something badass 😂
Joshua Preston Piett, _you fool._
@@chrissonofpear1384 Veers seems pritty cool in the EU. Thrawn respected him. he was intelligent and honorable. If brutal to the rebels. I like him: inteligent, brutal and honorable who love/d his wife (a man after my own heart).
In cannon he is even more of a nice gie (he is described as intelligent, honorable and a family man).
and he is the star wars equvilent of a tanker and engineer. in legends he like the AT-AT but recognised its faults, and tried to improved it.
You NAILED this. Someone's studied individual leaders and techniques of Great Military Leaders. This was really well done. (Kallus is a 'Good Officer' who is overwhelmed by his moral compass, and I have know doubt did an even better at uniting Fulcrum activities once a member of the Alliance -- which will include Cassian Andor.) ... "Generals become restless when there is no war to fight," which I truly believe was a spur to the flank of what become the First Order. Constantine is my favorite "Oh you did NOT just do THAT!" and it was quickly resolved. Head down, mouth shut, fly your mission, when you defect in the middle of a battle, you'll be reported as KIA. Immediately become some one else. Start your own Outer Rim business.
Screw up under Tarkin you're turn into nuclear death star soup.
Screw up under Thrawn you're taken to your local art museum.
Vitiate's Sith Empire vs Revan's Sith Empire (Expanded Universe canon).
Since Revans Sith Empire was just a front/puppet for Vitiates...
Val that’s not a bad idea actually. Revan’s sith empire was comprised of veterans of the republic-mandalorian wars.
Are you talking about zakuul or dromund kaas empire
@@dominiqueminor8039 never mention zakuul
Vitiate's would wipe the floor with Revan's Sith Empire. There's a 300 year tech gap between them and I'm sure Vitiate had more than a few thousand Sith and dark siders at his disposal 😂
most military officer exists on a three-axis graph:
incompetent to competent
selfish to dedicated
merciful to ruthless
Avoid "incompetent selfish ruthless", "incompetent dedicated ruthless", "incompetent selfish merciful", "competent selfish ruthless".
I think Staz should be a seventh category, the Troopers Best Friend. He’s there with you, beside you, risking his life, so he’ll get noticed for the love his Troops have for them.
The Imperial officer corps got Rick Rolled.
This Rick fellow knows what he's talking about
I thought you were going to actually say the different ranks not explain good and bad officers. You should do a video about that. From Storm Trooper to emperor.
These basic officer types translate to the real world too. The first Captain of my Navy ship was the low key type. A full Captain 06 putting in his time on my Frigate (he should have been commanding a Cruiser) before going to a landside Staff job. He let the XO actually command the ship.
Our next Captain was a hard charging young Commander eager to show his stuff. In wartime he'd be a Glory Hound. We had a couple young Sycophants too. As butter bars - ensigns - they were easy to make fools of without their realizing it. Fun and games!
*Different Types of Mandalorians*
*The Bloodthirsty:* Your Montross type, only the sadistic pleasure from hunting and killing prey, matters to them. Money and glory mean nothing, to raid and pillage is it's own reward.
*The Honoured Warrior:* Proud of their peoples way's. They strive to test themselves through battle and don't hold grudges or downplay the skills of their adversary's should they be defeated by them in a worthy fight. They are Perfectly happy to swap stories and raise a glass with them, in the next life. Legendary figures like, Canderous Ordo, or Fenn Rau embodied this.
*The Petty Conqueror:* Victory is all that matters to these kinds of people, like Pre Viszla and the Saxon's. They will use any underhanded cowardly tactic they can to ensure their twisted interpretation of their culture is the top dog. Even kill their own men if they are defeated. Honor is just a pretense to maintain their power and dominance, a means to continue to lord over those too weak to fight back. All for the sake of their petty pride.
*The Stoic:* Professional, pragmatic, with a heart wrapped in Beskar. These kinds of Mando's like the Fett's and Din Djarin, keep to themselves and can be relied on to get the job done, without any drama. But there's still humanity underneath, whether it's small acts of kindness like sharing some water with a dying man. Looking out for their family, no matter who or what they are. Or simply flattering a old Toydarian lady your friendly with, and raising a son. These fellows may say little, but they feel big.
*The Rebellious:* These colourful, expressive, and loyal, types, like Sabine Wren may look less intimidating, but don't let their bright demeanor confuse you. Their just as fierce as any son and daughter of Mandalore, and may be hiding some blackness that stains their conscious.
I'd probobally be a mix of rebellious, and honoured warrior myself
I'd say Ursa Wren fits the stoic pretty well, but there's also a streak of the rebellious in her.
@@stevenquinlivan7096 Yes, but try and convince them of that. Oh wait they don't care.
Never said all of them would be positive examples. Have to acknowledge the spectrum, from the lowest to the heighest. (in no particular order()
Where do the Fetts fall into this scale ?
@@OddHunter5504 The stoic of course. Check out the game Star Wars Bounty Hunter, and the Age of Rebellion Boba Fett comic.
fighting over glory
I do not require glory only results for my emperor
The one character that combines both the epitome of Good Imperial and Old Navy is Grand Admiral Gilad Pellaeon from the Star Wars EU/Legends. I was hoping to see his name pop up in the Good Imperial category but... nadda.
The EU/Legends offers some good and interesting examples of Imperial Officers from high ranking admirals to Tie fighter pilots that would fit within these categories... and probably create new categories as well.
I love Alan’s introduction to the show gets me every time keep it up we are generation tec
Low-key officers are just imperial quiet kids
I swear i think i learn more from you guys than my own college classes
How cool would it be if he TAs for one of our courses? I might actually get an A for once without having to resort to a force mind sway and hand wave at my teacher.
Your college teachers would punish you for watching generation tech because they dared to criticise communism.
@@lillyanneserrelio2187 If these guys had their own sci-fi course I'd take that class in a heart beat
@@dzod then we feed them to the dolphins
@@dzod that's the problem with education in the US. From grade 1 thru college its all about information regurgitation. Unless you specifically take a [good] philosophy class, free thought and questioning the status quo (the current system and the way things currently are) is discouraged. Why? because new [and possible better] ideas can challenge current systems [govts] and those that hold power. And while even an elected politician will deny it, any person with power dislikes giving it up - They aren't "Sith lord evil", its just human nature.
I always feel bad for Needa, he was honest to a fault. I respect a man willing to fall on his own sword
He was the one who gave the order to shoot down Grievous ship with Anakin, Palpatine, and Obi-wan still on it during the Battle of Coruscant (in EP III). Vader was just looking for an excuse to kill him.
@@enforcerridley158 I never knew that
Thrawn is that one character that keeps on giving
You have the best Star Wars lore videos ! It’s crazy how you analyze every detail for us fans ! ThNks
My favorite after Thrawn is still always going to be Malavai Quinn, that magnificent bastard is the only person who tried to kill my character that I left alive. Because he's quite simply too good an officer to kill.
Can we give governor price her own category of the “ones who can’t do their job right”
She's a governor not an officer. Think of a governor of a state being commander and chief of his or her states national guard or a leader of a country being the commander and chief of a country's entire military despite never serving in said military.
Marrqi7 wini Tarkin was too
I did my job and didn’t question orders, that’s how you survive a deployment with Vader...
careful choke on your aspirations. Do not fail me again Admiral, I’ve had quite enough.
Pairing the good imperial with the genius could have guaranteed that the Empire won the war. Especially if you also utilize the old navy personal to mentor the good imperial
11:19 Look closely. To the right of Yularen. There is what appears to be a Phase 2 Green Company helmet. Either that, or it's a 501st helmet.
I think that’s Commander Gree’s helmet
@@Joe-ds3qs Wait but he was beheaded by Yoda
Who thinks this guy Rick is much better than Alan? and much better looking as well
I'm faithful to Alan
They're both alien plants
You forgot the Ruthless Officer. They are the officers Palpatine shows the highest preference in his forces and general go far in the ranks of the Imperial Forces. With many achieving the highest rank in the Imperial Military. With some, even allowed to command officers of different military branches because they generally have the favor of the Emperor or the favor of officers the Emperor likes. To the point Palpatine will create new military ranks, like Grand General, to give to his favorites more power within his organization. More then likely Tarkin would be given Sumperme Moff if he actually destroyed the base at Yavin IV, even if it was empty of rebels. These officers often believe that the ends justify the means and do not care how they achieve success, so long as they achieve success. Due to this mentality, they usually gain and give out to those under them a lot of leeways when it comes to following laws and regulations. And generally gain a lot of prestige just for simply accomplishing a victory, even its a phyric victory.
Serving under a Ruthless Officer general gives you a lot of prestige and leeway. As generally, these officers could care less about regs as long as their subordinates get results. And simply being in under a Ruthless Officer general gets a lot of fanfare when it comes to the Imperial propaganda machine, especially if they have a track record of success. However, these officers also generally have the highest casualties in their military force due to only caring about results. If they don't straight up kill them due to failing too many times for they can't let their incompetence hurt their record. They also generally don't get along with other Ruthless Officers of similar ranks, so those under them can be expected to be caught in a heated rivalry between these officers, and they will likely have a higher kill count of Imperials then entire Rebel Cells. Plus, those under them will more likely commit war crimes even under Imperial standards.
Examples: Dark Lord Vader, Grand Moff Tarkin, Director Krennic, Admiral Versio, and Grand General Tagge.
You forgot another officer :
Important Character :
These officers always have plot armor equipped, along with multiple weapons, one of which being the Magic Pistol, capable of killing everything with a single shot.
These officers are perfect in every way with no explanation.
Not only that, these officers always win against every minor character, such as Rebel Soldier #2768.
I’d be a Death trooper working for Thrawn.
"My name is Rick" I laughed so hard and had to explain to my wife why it was so funny 🤣
11:00 wow a star destroyer with railings!
6 types of imperial officer:
1 is lainess and coward
2 is a very responsible officer
3 is a dedicated officer and do his/her duty
4 is a wise officer that can predict enemies attack (like Thrawn)
5 is a cruel and overconfidence officer (Grand moff Tarkin)
6 the officer who always get punish or worse executed by their laziness or simple mistakes
Knowing those categories would also be useful as a junior officer, as well as enlisted personell
Id want to serve under.
1. Admiral Thrawn
2. Admiral Yuluran
3. Admiral Versio
4. Director Krenic
5. Moff Tarkin
Are you sure? The homie Krenic would shoot you just to prove a point.
@@AG-yc7vt that's why he's near the bottom
Might seem like a generalization, but while these all don't directly translate into our actual military rest assured there are usually easy to spot "types"...just two being...
Butter Bars - These kids are fresh out of OCS and are riding high off being put in charge of other human beings, problem is while they "technically" outrank them Sergeant Majors and Gunners (USMC) have FAR more experience, the smart 2nd Lt. will listen and learn from them, the butter bar though...well they'll either fail to get a clue and leave the service for civilian work (and continue to crow about being an officer however briefly), or they'll run afoul of a Sergeant or equivalent who will dress them down so hard Vader himself would beam with pride...with the added benefit that they "might" survive long enough to get a clue.
Mustangs - Closest equivalent in the video would be the Old Navy type. These guys were enlisted who managed to become officers. While not all of them are good with some forgetting where they came from (thanks to "A combat veteran" for that phrasing) most are decent...but they were enlisted long enough to know BS, they usually won't miss a trick so it's better to stay on their good side and not even try.
(Bonus type) The Sergent Major/Gunner - Yes this is an enlisted rank but when it comes to experience, clout, pull, and attitude most are officers in all but name. Smart officers will respect them and defer to them, going over their heads to the officer in "charge" is a gamble since the smart officer will usually be more inclined to believe them then you. Seriously the good ones are the kind Vader probably loves to work with since their job is based on reliability and results.
The cheeky placement of the articals of the Federation from Star Trek when mentioning dictatorial regimes.
Great video and some imperial officer were competent and some were incompetent.
I did the battlefront 2 campaign in 1 sitting around 1am, it was so fun and amazing seeing iden defect and become a rebel
Totally thought this was gonna be like admiral, grand admiral, moff, grand moff, etc. 😂
You should write a book on this.
Pellaeon might be the best officer to serve under if you have the choice.
Worst, I think would probably be Daala or Zinj.
I love how "the articles of the federation" is listed as evil.., your Loyalty to the Empire is what drives me Emperor Allen.
Divisional officers, Political officers, Naval officers and Army officers.
An interesting review Rick. Keep rolling them out please.
Your name is Allen not Rick! At 0:06
I could've sworn it was Henry...
Morty!
@@nobleman9393 no Rick and Morty puns!
@@pyeitme508 PICKLE RIIIICK
I had to xD
You forgot one type: the Rebel Spy
Also, Thrawn: Genius/Good Imperial; Eli Vanto: Good Imperial/Low Key
You forgot Pellaeon, he was one of the Good Imperial Officers
I was thinking...That big "Woosh!" when Darth Palpy was tossed into the reactor, was Him using an ability to open a wormhole/vortex/flow transfer etc, etc that can only be opened by a HUGE amount of Force that drains anyone from their Force abilities. Rectum...Damn near killed him.
I Digress...Great Video Asian Al.
cheers
Or into the, er, World Between Worlds, from Rebels yes - as some have theorised.
Previously, the 'whoosh' was assumed to be a violent release of unstable Force energy he was releasing.
I like Rick, he kinda makes me hope Alan doesn't come back
Very good video Rick I see Allen now has some competition in hosting the show now Go Empire!
Thanks for explaining all this stuff to me
Ah the glory hound.
Or, as I call them, an unfortunate casualty of a friendly fire incident...
You say thrawn is in the genius category all by himself. What about grand moff tarkin. He is a genius officer and fit your discriptions
The Yuuzhan Vong vs Star Trek galaxy Post Dominion War about 5-10 years after DS9.
Yuuzhan Vong land in between the Alpha Quadrant and Delta quadrant there by being far from the Dominion and Federation's monitoring.
Those 2 huge super powers with a ton of allies each will absolutely CRUSH the Vong in a combined fleet battle once they see how Vong are.. HOWEVER basically ALL the Trek ground forces are laughably under armed. With little apparent body armor and not much more then 1 or 2 grenades and a sidearm each along with their rifles and carbines which to THEM is heavily armed. So the Vong ground forces will probably easily crush most ALL Trek planet forces unless maybe Species 8472 or the Borg ALSO help beat them. Unless Koral Skippers and Vong tech easily strip Trek shields too.. then if sheer numbers isnt enough the Trek verse is screwed.
@Amber Hoke maybe but THAT is a desperate tactic to unconventionally defeat a much stronger enemy you otherwise will lose to in a strait fight no even if you sent everything you had holding nothing back alongside all your allies AND temporary former enemies all trying to beat otherwise way stronger mutual foes.. you do that too or 1st cuz you know odds of you beating them without it are slim or none.. the Borg are nearly IMPOSSIBLE to beat. Very few 8472 species can beat them ESPECIALLY in 1v1, much less overwhelm them which even fewer can manage without considerable effort, large forces and usually fighting already weakened Borg. An Vong are basically the only SW faction that SPECIFICALLY uses tech that strips shields entirely. But they also rival the Kaminoans in their understanding of genetics maybe even more. Should 31s "adapt the deadly anti Founder virus to use on these Vong" tactic fail. They're done if that was their last hope
Believe me I'm a Star Wars nerd. But this is extremely nerdy. Good job. Very interesting.
Got it, so it's good for you long term survival prospects to be serving in the same vessel as either Tarkin or Piet.
An interesting thing is, if I lived in that would, I could pretty well have ended up on the imperial side, too... though being someone on their own could also be a chance, if I could get there. I mean, in reality, I'm favoring the imperial kind of government, just with the right emperor. Concentrating power to a single person has a potential to be a more efficient system, though a wrong person is likely to emerge... not like they don't anyway, so meh.
Same. In everything i saw the rebels hadn't provided anything other than "restore the Republic" the government that failed and birthed the Empire.
I'd rather work for and change the Empire, and when the "disillusionment" phase of the good imperial came, I'd probably phase into the low key, or a psuedo-old navy
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I know it’s not canon, but in Lego Star Wars: The Freemaker Adventures, there’s an officer who’s tries to be as mediocre as possible so as to not get in trouble, but also not get any responsibilities so he never disappoints Vader.
In a Star Wars sense, I would categorize myself as both Old Navy and Good Imperial,
Rick is a big improvement over that other guy
I have 6 imperial officers
1st: idiots who act like they know something but actually don't
2nd: idiots who are smart but their strategies fail due to not thinking ahead
3rd: officers who are too cocky and fail very horribly
4th: just pure officers who cannot think ahead of their failures and just die
5th: officers who can think smart and help to make the empire stronger and give their lives for imperial victory
6th: officers who are the best of the best and lead to complete imperial victory and make the emperor promote them
Sorry, but once I notice something Kallusly done, I cannot help but Konstantine focusing on and Tarkin about it. 0:31 at 0.25 speed, the screen casts a dark glow off the camer-Allens, angled from Veering off of the designated landing zone --- the Hand.
AlPiett the Sloanelly improving issues, the fuzzier graphic looks better.
Ozzel, I wonder what would happen to the Life Tree when the coming Life Day arrives.
If less Motti, Yul ar, en you were to simply show the real thing, e-Vaderd my checks you would have, and wasted less of everyone's time. Hmm?
*Then I would have that* Tea/Kake, 4-2. Won, *everyone would have.*
If I was forced into service, wither by the empire itself, or just my station in life is aspire to be a good imperial, and make a difference in the empire after seeing the radical, and bloody way of their command, and fear tactics
Honor is a fools prize, glory is of no use to the dead
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Missed out on the political officer, which Tarkin, Krennic, and Grand Admiral Savit all play into. They are the officers that aren't necessarily great at combat, but know how politics work, which has allowed them to climb the imperial ladder and even gain the favor of the emperor.
I would LOVE to serve under Thrawn. I would gladly die to Ruk if it saved Thrawn.
If I lived in this time I'd love to work under thrawn or wulf yalren. I feel like they would be really good/chill ones as long as you did as you were told
I have an OC who starts out as a classic "Good Imperial" - she's a sentientologist and diplomat tasked with maintaining peace with nonhumans in the Outer Rim - but ultimately ends up defecting to the Rebellion because of incompetent leadership and institutionalized discrimination. This video is very helpful for developing my character's backstory!
Six Types of Imperial Admirals
1. Legends Grand Admiral Thrawn
2. Canon Grand Admiral Thrawn
3-6. Et al
Pellaeon is the ideal Good Imperial in Legends
"Rick"... does that mean you was named after "Rick Grimes"???
Was his mother's name "Maggie"??
It would explain all them close calls and last second escapes from them dangerous Dolphin hoards.
I cant remember the actors name who played admiral ozzel but he was in a uk drama tv series back in the 80s called "grange hill" in which he played a stuffy nosed uptight school teacher which was about the lives of the students and teachers in a school called grange hill.
Panelleeon (or the fuck he's written) is my favorite Imperial Navy officer, Veers is my favorite Imperial Army officer.
A guiding principle, first formalized by some swabbie in the REAL US Navy, has applicability inside and outside any military. "Never be first. Never be last. Never volunteer." If you can do it without drawing attention to yourself, you'll eventually advance quickly, as your contemporaries winnow themselves out by ignoring that wisdom.
Thrawn was probably the best to serve under.
Even if you failed he would rather put you somewhere where you can still be useful instead of just killing you for making a mistake you could learn from and improve from.
Rick!?! Man I was way off. I thought your name was Mike. Lol
Nicely done.
Dis has some nice lore
Except Veers was an idiot too busy pushing the AT-AT despite knowing its design flaws
Id be a mix of sycophant, Glory hound, and a dash of good imperial.
Ahh yes, imperial officers, Darth Vader’s choking toys
Thank you Rick
Animated cartion watchers: why is thrown so beloved??
Thanks didn't get that familiar reception .. Not even close, when he was revealed
Most early officers start this way but then ither die or learn how to actually be a commander