Rami N. Desai in Conversation with Lt Gen Dr. Konsam Himalay Singh PVSM, UYSM, AVSM, YSM (Retd)
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- In this latest episode of #InsightWithRami, Watch Ms. Rami N. Desai, Distinguished Fellow, India Foundation, in Conversation with Lt Gen Dr. Konsam Himalay Singh PVSM, UYSM, AVSM, YSM (Retd), on "Manipur Complexities: A View Point"
All the so called kukis professors, educated kukis n pastors only talk of seperate state and their blame game to Meiteis while forgetting the role of kuki armed militants n armed kuki hooligans on 3rd May. A kuki pastor on national television interview called all Meiteis as animals. Many Meiteis help their kuki neighbors in Imphal secretly. A club in Iroishemba saved 25 kukis yet we all Meiteis r animals.
Not a single kukis talk of middle ground and peace. Compared that to this. This is profound. Good views n unbiased and lots of deep knowledge of the state
Lt Gen Konsam Himalay Singh sir is a very fine General...Jai Hind !!!
He is, unlike the fraud former VC of AMU,ur relative too
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tu shamelessly g@@nd chatna band kar. sharam nahiaata..poore internet par hai bas senior officers ki gaand chaat raha hai.
@@MOHIT836 godi andbhakth🤣🤣🤣🤣
It was conspiracy theories to wipe out an indigenous people.. an extinction is no ot good for the poeple.
I bow my head down madam. You reduce my sorrow half and increase my confidence double. I pray to the Almighty you aren't tired of revealing the truths 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks Lt. K Himalaya for exposing the insightful comments on conflict between the meiteis and kukis. And above all your readiness for a solution.
Truth alone triumphs. Jai Hind.
Thank you Rami Ma'am for the great discussion . And thank you Sir General Himalay for his peace talk and the story of the history which the world need to know. Jai Manipur, Jai Hind
Last 1/4 of the topic from Lt Gen KH is very important for solution of this crisis, we the public as well as the Goverment to think and understand.
Madam Rami is such a good human ……love your effort to bring peace in Manipur❤❤❤❤❤
See the difference between the thoughts between the two communities.... You can see each and every video of kuki interview they just are influencing wrong and conflict thoughts...
Bcz they are junglee uncivilized
What u expect... From Fried 🧠
Oh puhlese! 🥴
What a Gentleman Mr Konsam is. A fine balance away from communal rhetoric and understanding the deep internal and external play of the current crisis. Wish more of neutral leader from the Kuki community come forward and start a dialogue to end this havoc and find some solution for all the parties. Thanks Rami for your sincere effort and the love for this beautiful part of the country
Lol...who was the community calling the other "militants", "drug traffickers", "foreigner" !!! And raped our women! Clearly they are not "peace" loving!
Why would the KukiZo leaders be so calm and "neutral" (as per your biased definition) ?
What a brilliant mind and great patriot he is! Personalities like him need more coverage and recognition.
Yes. He is very very different from that other retd. general who was fond of the word #lungi.
@@Seasonedhunter114R u offended by the word lungi???...R u also one of those burmese terrorists who came into Manipur wearing lungi and Ak47 in their hands??
This was one of the rare conversations between two brilliant minds which enlightened and inspired. Hope this conversation would clear the doubts of many people. Thanks a lot.
Yes. Now everyone knows the Kuki Zo are right
@@daritouthang2594lol... After 40 mins u only got fooled into believing that Kulis r right? Cummon..
Great conversation. Thank you both for the efforts towards bringing peace and normalcy.
Thanks Lt Gen K Himalaya Singh for explaining the Manipur history....Jai Hind,,,,,,,
Thank you Rami jii it's wonderful to see the interview ...
We hope for the restoration of peace soon in our state ...
Insightful interview. These kind of talks gives hope. Hoping for more such talks of Ramiji with many other visionaries of peace. Thank you 🙏
Thanks for the great discussion. Intellectuals are the need of the moment to understand North-east and it's issues particularly with Manipur.
This interview is a music to the ears after hearing all the interviews of the people with mediocre mind who r only coming out with an intent of blame game. Thank you General sir. Thank u Rami.🙏
Such a wonderful discussion. Much appreciated to both of you 🙏🏻
We need Manipur regiment to protect our borders. We should deal with centre and state governments..we really need Manipur regiment..
Big respect to Ramiji for being a neutral voice....
You called Rami neutral? from day one she is not.
"To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail". Cookies are the man with 🔨 in this case
Very good interview and great respect for Sir Himalaya
besides being a meitei from manipur jiribam district thanks rami niranjan desai ❤ i really love your video. you looks beautiful in that yellow dress ❤too .
Dear brother , I am from Uttar Pradesh, how is situation now, are peace loving meiteis fully United to protect themselves.
All she need is johny sin jst like ur naked paibis
Thank you!!! Gen Konsam Himalay Singh and Rami Desai, thank you!!!
Thank you Rami ji for such a intellectuals interview. We hope peace to come soon in Manipur.
This good historical information and analysis .... Gives a good overview and insights too.... Thanx for sharing...
nice to see , that after long time your this video is inching towards 10 k. never abandon your efforts, which are primarily for wellbeing of bharatmata.
Very great insights. Poppy cultivators shouldn't dictate the state.
Yes, you rightly mentioned. Poppy cultivation n Drug money is empowering d Kuki militants n some kuki politicians.
Rapist should not dictate the State
@@deadlylittlefart3148 the two ladies have clarified that they were not raped. So whatchu crying for thuzak kasubi gi macha. Nama napa masak khangadaba. Lamaza Sara. Go back to your Chinlund 😆 Myanmar
@@deadlylittlefart3148 murders, illegal immigrants n drug lords must not disrespect India n Manipur. We must heavily come down on anti-India activities of kuki-zo.
Hanks very much Mr General sir n madam Rumi for a worth discussion
Hi Ma'am, new subscriber from Imphal. Love you loads from Meitei Community ❤❤
This is how a officer of army should talk neutrally not like assam rifles officers biased talk which they think they own everything
Request please send one video where Assam Rifles officers have spoken biased. One video. I shall be thankful.
Meiteis have written history that goes back beyond 2000 years. They know the names of all their kings over 2000 years!!! Here is a link that gives a brief overview of "Cheitharol Kumbaba", the court chronicle of the kings of Manipur:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheitharol_Kumbaba
Lt Gen Konsam inspired me to write this comment which I was always thinking about. India need to rethink n settle Mayanmar army rule asap n bring back democracy there to solve NE India issues. More the delay means more disturbance.
I might be the first civilian to talk on this but this is really important. We don't intend to invade any country but that doesn't mean that we should compromise our national security. Waiting for the miracle which happened on every 5th of August 🙏 Jai Hind. Jai Bharat.
Its the chinese who r encouraging the burmese to forment trouble in the NE.....India is unfortunately in the worst neighbourhood right for PAK border to Burmese border & all evil regimes are backed by China😡😡😡😡😡
This conflict is just a tip of the iceberg, their end goal is Zalengam, merging areas from Mizoram, Manipur (India), Myanmar (Chin state) & Bangladesh (Chittagong tracts)
IMPOSSIBLE .... DREAM ZALENGAM
I am from Manipur. One of best interviews.
enlightening talk . we don't know much about our north east part . thanks a lot mam .
Great job Rami ji...all the best... always support ❤❤❤
The most unbiased and constructive interview I have seen so far. Thank you .
Thank u rami...thank u so much.. Nothing more to say.. 🙏🙏
The real story of Manipur is great 👍
Rami N Dawai talks with Lt. Gen Longkam is quite sensible and Longkam inputs are excellent and he revealed so many useful materials for solutions.
Madam, your channel is so enlightening. Requesting to have a interview with new elected Manipur inner MP OJA Bimol Akoijam.
Thank you Rami ji and sir himalaya.
How can I contribute little
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Excellent.
Lacking points & solutions are not highlighted :-
1.Demand of separate country greater Mizoram is unconstitutional.
2.Connivance act of R&AW, UOI, Manipur state, kuki militants,KNO chief Natham Bom Bangladesh etc remain silent ?
3. Ethnic meetei identity ipuroi Apokpa religion need to be discussed and rvived,
The present discrimination has been arosed when meetei started untouchability with kuki / naga races after conversion into hindu in 1709 by manipuris .
4.manipuri hindu had destructed ethnic meetei origin,thus meetei would extinguished soon.
5.Manipur state constitution act 1947 has discrded outsider meetei of Assam Tripura Bangladesh.
6.Meetei outsider were not given choice to settle country at meetei leipak.
7. Manipuri hindu gotra are not descendants of Arjun chitrangada babrubahan of Mahabharata hindu gotra.
8. SoO signed by UOI, Manipur govt & kuki militants is invalid.
9. No kuki is authorised to kill ethnic meetei.
10. Kukis are wandering races have no legal entity. Their monarchical & despotic character will not work upon ethnic Meetei ,it should be kept in their limits.
11. Mistakes of Manipur govt neglecting outsider meeteis is serious offences.
12. As per kangla archaeological charter 2003 Manipur govt is bound to preserve ethnic meetei at the earliest.
13. Kuki should be kept in jail to restrain their despotic behaviour in the interest of Nation.
14. Chanakya niti must be applied upon kuki immediately ie. sham dam danda bhed.
It is our PM & HM have shown much mercy uoon kuki militants by mistake.
15. Kuki can not live alone,they have to live with ethnic Meetei & Naga tangkhul.
Thus kuki should be punished immediately,their ill intention & ill motive are dangerous to Nation.
Kuki are need to be hacked legally for betterment of India.
Pl note, one day they would destruct govt of india. 🎉
Rami Desai interview is always amazing. Kindly interview Bimol Akoijam of JNU
You Bimol is in under investigation.
wait for it.😅
@@Hry674be jealous.
@@leipaklei1334 Jealous for what?
I'm happy and feel blessed that I don't belong to where you belongs.
Nice to hear such a balance approached.
We meeteis know manipuri history very well.
Locals call the conflict as indigenous vs nonindegenous groups from Myanmar.
Yes... Indigenous vs non indigenous, rightly put. 😊
First their, Kuki demand is against ST inclusion of meitei then separate administration then president rule. Moment later their demand jump to separate UT. Now their demand is Kukiland from Indian union. What next?
next is free rice or maybe free doctor/meds? lmao
Next target is Delhi
jai bharat...........manipur ....i pray for peace.
Ma'am, can't it be possible for you to have a discussion with Prof Bimol Akoijam?
Great initiative madam Rami.
Appreciate respectable medam Rami
@gonmei111 in that case..let me remind you one thing again...Kuki refugees will never get seperate administration in Manipur... they better try it to Myanmar itself.... Meiteis are not fool as you thought it might be... they are far advanced community than you Kukis with a strong historical background ❤❤
Great conversation much appreciated!🙏
Thank you sir and madam ❤
A great grounded soldier. Well analysed
Wow... Such a wonderful discussion😊
in manipur Illegal migration is not the issue, coming of train in future is much more the bigger issue...so,meitei demand ST status for protection...
overall, the discussion is great...Lt.Gen Dr.Konsam is such a knowledgeable person since he just state facts and not insert meitei agenda.
we often saw Ms.Rami on News9 discussion and siding with Meitei narration...it seems in this discussion she try to extract all her sided narration(news9) from the Lt Gen mouth...but she can't...But after all her stand point during discussion on news9 and now this,it seems she had little knowledge about Manipur people(espcially meitei and kuki)...
She has much more knowledge than u refugee kuki.
She knows exactly what colour is your $hit.🤣
@@harshdubey397 but being a rocket scientist dosen't mean you also know how to built a simple house...
there is no meitei refugees as they were all sent back to their home the imphal valley...enjoy your non refugee status there.
@@mangboyhaokip9730 that's been ur plan right from the start . U started all this shit. N yet shameless kukis crying n begging for sympathy acting like a victim.
@@mangboyhaokip9730bigger problem in manipur is that we have allowed kuki migration these people can't think beyond their community. The Indian government should throw out illegal kuki migration.
Cool, balance, and unbiased conversation
unbiassed hahahha
@@emthroyeah...looking at someone who didn't fall for ur cheap victim card trick must be hard to digest for u
@@harshdubey397 no one is competing the Meitei of playing the victim cards and lies which they have been doing for centuries which btw is on record. when you mentioned it speak more about yourself.
@@emthroif you know that meitei is lying for centuries then you must also know that Kukis were a refugee too who were brought into India by the British too that too not long ago not even 200 years ago
@@bot6365 just like meitei were illegal to the hills?
Good,best of best initiative discussion to you both respected persons...
❤❤❤ Great Interview❤❤❤
Ms Rami your question are mostly targeted to kukis like illegal immigrants, soo millitant etc. You never asked about mob violence in the valley, arms looted in the valley, state forces carrying out attack on kuki villages (you mentioned about AR not trusted by meiteis)you also said there is chance of looted weapons going into the hands of soo millitant etc. Don't ever imagine the arms looted by meiteis will go to soo millitant.
Very nice interview. Curious, why no question on religion was asked especially as Hindus are under stress in Manipur
Cuz it's not a religious conflict
Medam rami you are highly knowledge
Correction Ma'am! Probably the first from NE to become a General was Lt Gen Lahiri who served as DG of Assam Rifles as well in the late nineties.
Respect and lots of love to you mam
Manipuri people know history except kukki as they are busy in poppy plantation.
Meiteis were by nature more accommodative and simple.Taking advantage of such nature many unethnic people tried to destabilize the demography of the state through infiltration encourage by politicians who want to remain in power.
Thanks for the interview
Your participation and thoughtful insights made the interview session truly exceptional. Thank you for your time and valuable contributions! Jai Hind.... Long Live India
I appreciate Ma'am
Thanks Rami n Himalaya ❤
Meiteis never compromise on their ancestors land.
Please interview Prof Sir Bimol Akoijam for a more elaborate explanation to the current violence... With due respect to Gen Himalay, the schedule tribe demand was started way back in 2010 and not just before 3rd May 2023...
You Bimol is under investigation.
Wait for it.😅😅😅
Rami...looking beautiful as ever❤
Never say that 90% of tribals land is inhabited by tribals alone. Come & see Motbung Village, Kangpokpi District, there are about 100 houses comprising of about 200 families. We lived together for about 70 years now. You may also see the nearby Kuki Village Gamnom Sapormeina where about 30-40 Meiteis families are settling.... Meiteis can too settle in hills. There's a constitutional provisions they need to go through.
Great respect to Lt.General
What's the exact percentage then?
That must be.0001%
Than y r u people doing an ethnic cleansing of tue Meiteis from kuli dominated areas in d hills? Sala...
I am a Kuki and a Big admirer of Lt. Himalaya Singh. I don't agree with everything that he says but I would sit through any interview of him. He is a good man and with a broad view of things.
That means you know nothing about manipur as well as India like all the kukis knows only their fake history which is still in the process of writing
@@DavidWill-v9w brother he is just keeping his point..he said nothing wrong.
@@kevinnao3424 I am not your brother, how could a refugee like you and I, indigenous be brother??
@@DavidWill-v9w hmm im meitei
You thigunlao come and sit with me first.
See how mature is Meitei people are but the kukis will always blamed Meitei in any interview or news channel
mature meitei include those who went to burnt villages?
@@emthro 🤣😂 see you even don't know what I m saying here is true. Have some common sense don’t act like dogs
@@emthro Uncivilized Brute fried 🧠
@@rahulleimapokpam9324 This attitude of yours(Meitei) being the all know while others don't is exactly the reason for not being able to integrate with other community. better be good neighbor from now on and stop attacking tribal villages.
Hope that u may got alot of knowledge abt the manipur..
Good interview 🙏
He tells only truth.
very good and constructive discussion
Ma'am please have an interview with Quota intellectual as well
And who is that?
Sir Himalaya should be the Governor in other states
Kukis with their mouth wide open while listening to manipur history 😂
Brilliant General, scholarly and balanced.
Unfortunately the snchor is shallow.
Dear mam may the soul of innocent people hunt you . not the one who die in other village . meanwhile Your yellow sari is very captive .
Both Medam n Sir
Khurumjari🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Great talked and the background of Budha's Head means a lot. ❤😂😂
It’s India multi religious and multi diversity country who are you to ask about Buddhism…….Christianity isn’t the only mind that😊
What's bothering u about Buddha's head???... U want ur head to be kept instead??
@@harshdubey397what a peace loving community 😮
@@nae_pao8756 be positive! A negative mind will never be a positive life. I just mentioned "Peace" Referring to Budha.
@@harshdubey397 be positive! A negative mind will never be a positive life. I just mentioned "Peace" Referring to Budha's head . You Naive!
" Continuously At War " ... For What ? I Don't Know ...
Ms.Desai, if you wanted to raise any questions regarding ADC and HAC Acts. Kindly do not ask any of the meities rather would suggest to read through those acts for better understanding of the same. Because with respect to Manipur state the state cabinet doesn't favour or allow these acts to be implemented or functional in the true spirit/being curtailed in contrast to the provisions under the acts. Therefore, deserving populace are not able to reap anything per the provisions of these acts meant for the empowerment/upliftment of the weaker sections of the society. Bottomline is that Meitei feel, if provisions of the above-mentioned acts are implemented, it is a direct threat to them.
Good thought without background knowledge...
@@shilpa3036Now here, meiteis even calling Naga bro as lacking knowledge. Funny people all around.
@@shilpa3036 Dear whatever you may be.
My thought is meant for the matured audiences and those hosting the show. You can study/follow more stuff for greater insights of real issues and surroundings. Thank you
U r not qualified enough to be lecturing her. She knows much more than u. Stop using tribal term. Only kukis r causing problems everywhere.
I m sure you would prefer thigunlao haokip
Bilkul sahi kaha 👍👍👍👍
Hinduism ( Vaishnav sect) arrived in Manipur was in 18th century, not 16th century as per authentic history. Of course, Manipur has their own way of faith so called Sanamahism, though it is not widely recognised/practised. Vaishnavism was widely practised by Manipuri Meiteis through Bamons, (a currupted word of Brahman). Now a days, there are Meitei Hindu, Meitei Christian, Meitei Buddhist, Meitei Bhais etc. Truly put, Meiteis keep changing their status quo in religion.
@@maskom1423 It' seems like u knows better than me...As Meiteis.... We respect all religions and culture... special Hinduism...fects is that each and every Mieties houses have sanmahi god....brahmin, or hindu Mietie, no matter which religion u follow.. we have to pray..sanmahi god inside our house rituals should be the same...Do some search on Manipur history.
Beautiful 👌🙏
This Rami is a pro meitei and she is fueling the voilence
Drug addict
Nomadic tribe
Kuki wild animal don’t play here
@@georgeyumkhaibam6413 u meitei are animals ...ur mother's show their naked body ..ur militant chopped David body and don't say ur civilised again
Katte katte feeling jealous🙄
Hahahaha here kukis is coming to spread false propaganda
Thagakli general himalaya. Adubu meitei gi oinadi karimata kannadabara khalli... Maagi haibabu magi siphai gi organization khakta khanba mini. ... Asigumba situation sida maana miyamda kari mateng pasngkhre... CSO /STUDENT UNION etc singdo maanadi guide touba yaadro... Ikaijei...
Rami looks nice but its not all as it seems. She is trying to lead her narrative here...
Problem is MLR act implement by GOI must be repealed this law
Hi Rami, please meet Dr. Bimol Akoijam JNU professor...
Wherever there is rami desai there is always a political bias. Even before i heard about her stand on manipur i already know which side she will favour.
She favours the truth. Unlike the kukis who r puppets of church
Coz you have a prejudice mindset. It is as simple as that. 🤣😂
@@Tornado_of_soul ofcourse i do. And i can easily spot others who are prejudiced, including you 🤷
You are thukis..I know😂
Anyone who speaks the truth is biased right ?
Ramiji ❤
Appreciate Lt. Gen. for stating the facts that the meiteis consisting of 7 clans inhabited the imphal valley n the tribals inhabited the hills when the 7 clans were amalgamated to form the Meitei kingdom in the past. When the British came, the same geographical separation continued because the Tribals were not under the Meitei kingdom.
May be but not kuki refugees
Lol british
@@jogabantanongthombam503yes not Kuki refugees - indigenous Kuki tribes / forefathers of citizens.
At that time there were no such word as Kuki...they were Khongsai who were brought by the Britishers in Manipur...
The hills were a part of d meitei king thats y they use to pay their respects to d king, please study d history of Manipur properly.
Meitei are originated from Burma and Bangladesh
Maybe according to history written by ur poppyhead junglee kukis.
How about Kuki huh??!! A Refugees from Burma and Bangladesh or lost and confused tribe from Israel, what are you people??!! Who belongs to nowhere.
You have the origin from other planet called planet of the apes😂
@@vickyyumnam1039😂😂😂😂 may b
Kuki kuki was nowhere before Naga kuki clashes. People know that the naga kuki clash was ignited by you only... Ask karan thapar your father in law to come up with decent talk liky this