Revealing the Truth about Manipur I Powers Behind Manipur Crisis I Rami N Desai I Aadi
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- Revealing the Truth about Manipur I Powers Behind Manipur Crisis I Rami N Desai I Aadi
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I have lived in North East. I have worked with Meiteis, they are very nice and humble people. They are obedient and hardworking. They are not violent. Having them as a part of my team had always been an advantage. The way they are portraid it a injustice to them. There is some migration also.
There is nothing against them, they are not harmful to any society. This is just discussion about what happened in the past
Thanks you for your trust
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1.MIZO use Kuki 4 internal stability of Mizoram so that they can sent all the 50000 illegal immigrants from Myanmar which they kept in their state and get big market by shifting from Manipur moreh to mizoram chamapai district
2..ARMY use kuki 4 counter insurgency operation to killed meitei since SOO aggreement in 2005 that was done secretly without the knowledge of Manipur govt that was unearthed recently in Manipur assembly...
3..India Govt use Kuki 4 kaladan project in Myanmar.. already arakan army taken over the rakhenge state so kaladan project is fail now...so GOI in damage control mode so they have to fence border and cancel fmr otherwise whole NE will be in trouble... especially Manipur will detached from the map if india
4...BJP use kuki 4 election already kuki militant said in NIA affidavit that BJP president jp nadda and Himanta biswas sharma give assurance to them if bjp come to power in Manipur than kuki demand will ve fullfill
5..kingpin use Kuki 4 narco bussines and poppy plantation .and buy huge weapon with that money
6.even Britisher use kuki 2 control Manipur as per record
7 all over kuki chin have bigger plan to form a new country called zalengam which is cooking for more than 70 yrs..
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Rami Desai is brilliant and her geopolitical knowledge is awesome! Expect to see more of her on this channel with better audio
Well done, Madam Rami! Your expertise of the history and version of the Northeast, esp. Manipur is outstanding!
I am neither Meetei nor Kuki but from Manipur so I know your version of the story.
Ms Rami Niranjan has dedicated a lot on research on NE India. Her way of treating the matter in a very balanced way supported by deep knowledge is commendable.
One thing I would like to know is how the kuki people having 5-6 lakhs only managed to fight so well co-ordianted in two fronts, for so long. I mean how their finances for arms, ammunition and other materials. Are they such deep pocketed or is there a steady supply chain from somewhere. If so, what are the tesources. It is very beguiling how such a small community they themselves use to call poor tribals managed so well in terms of weapons supply, supplies, IT support is so well coordinated that to for so long.
Rami, you are one of the best for the North-East of Bharat.🙏
Absolutely true Aadi ji, the British are intelligent and they worked out to penetrate the Northeast India by opening hospitals, schools and slowly won the mind of tribal people by sending missionaries for conversion the hill tribes, Nagaland, Meghalaya, Mizoram but unfortunately they could not penetrate Arunachal Pradesh but the Indian Christians did it for them.
Correction, not the indian church members but church authorities.
Right... by using money power.. by giving facilities for schooling ... sending training for medical nurse.. and ST status to convert Christian... MEITEIs r still remain MEITEIs till date surrounding all ST status Christian communities
Meanwhile the Hindus bring their cast system wherever they go, so yaa the colonials were the evil
Timestamps
00:00 Jai Hind Jai Bharat Introducing Rami N Desai
01:04 Manipur - Current Situation, Faultlines exploited
03:50 Characterisation as a Hindu-Christian Issue, Briish Parliament - Khalistani MP, Religious angle superimposed, Majority-Minority, Fascism
08:04 Drugs in Manipur/NE - Afghan poppy crackdown, shift to Myanmar - ecological impact - War on Drugs
12:55 Kukki - Meithi Narrative game - International interference - Representation Sought
17:33 Aggressive Online Positioning by Kukki community, Online Trolling/ Attacks, Narrative too deviated from ground reality for international consumption
25:07 Morality Vs Religious NGO/Thinktank, Vested Interests, Biased Narrative
27:34 Lack of Counter inside Bharat, Lack of Academically good Articles/Talks
29:30 Politicisation
30:03 Post - Modi Opening up of NE
33:58 Missionaries in NE - Thwarting China, Local Resistance, in British Era - Anthropology, Excluded/ Included area permits, Divisive Policies- Given script, 1st book - Bible
43:47 NE Population Demographic Percentages
45:00 British Leaving Plan - NE under Direct Rule - Ress, Geostrategic
46:20 Nehru - Flippant attitude - Missionary as rep of NE, Pagan self ID VS Modi Mainstreaming NE
48:24 British Far-fightedness, Bharatiya writings used against Bharat, Naga Cessationist Movement, UK, Xina
50:20 SWL A, ID Politics
51:42 Myanmar Teaser
52:16 Myanmar the Country - Sacrifice Zone- many ethniciities, Xina, Junta, conflicts, arms, Minerals,
54:35 NUG asks for 500B from US Congress
55:41 Bharat Perspective - Act East, Kaladan Proj., IMT Highway
56:41 Myanmar multiple poles inside - Arakan, Junta, NUG, Three Brotherhood Alliance, Cyber Crime units, gambling run by Xinese Crime Lords (4 Families) Vs Xina
01:03:05 Bharat's Policy - NSA level meets in Russia- Strategic Autonomy - Balancing Power
01:07:50 Concluding Remarks
01:09:27 Jai Hind
The reason why Kukis are very aggressive and offensive online is very clear. They started the aggression and want to keep the rift and hatred alive. Doing so they believe they can get seperation.
Jai Sri Ram I am meitei hindu....
JAI BHARAT 🔱 🇮🇳
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Thank you Rami ma'am for not being biased. You are one of the few scholars who are always presenting facts and speaking the truth.
Rami was excellent in knowledge about our northeast and games going on there
"Like, you know." End of conversation.
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I’m a long time subscriber. And I was just unsubscribed involuntarily. So I resubscribed. Remind people to do this in d future
Thank you Adi ji for introducing us to Rami Desai. and Thank you Rami Desai for your informative and detailed insights - i think the best i have heard on Manipur.
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Awesome show.. I am impressed by Rami too. She sure has so much clarity
Thank you for educating us about north eastern part of bharat. Looking for more such discussions
we the people of Manipur, this two community need a strong, powerful leader in both side.. Nothing will gona change if we just keep talking, shouting, etc in social media.
Manipur propaganda was exactly like the Palestinian slogan!
Not manipur illegal kuki immigrant propaganda is Israel politics zionist
When Bharat Grows chini slows Bharat Mata ki Jai
Aadi Bhai keep up the Great Work this is great 👍 to have someone who has the correct knowledge of the game Rami Desai ji this is what people want
Jai shree ram ❤
Good one ! Lot of history was covered,Rami was there in an Abhijit Chavda podcast too on manipur
Very well explained..thank you Rami and Aadi
All the best for ur upcoming videos.. Aadi bhai👍🇮🇳
Well articulated. But, the national media in general is in the right in the tight grip of the misinformation media campaigns of the foreign agencies. Still, I congratulate Desai and Adi for bringing out what I have been suspecting based on what I have been seeing from the ground reality which has a lot of loose ends which Desai has interlinked. Well argued by Desai. Thanks Adi for hosting this discussion.
Really eye opening discussions.
Jai Hind Jai Bharat 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳❤️❤️❤️
JAI HIND JAI BHARAT 🚩
JAI BHARAT.
Amazing discussion!!😊👏
Great conversation. Ms. Rami analysis n hardwork is Noteworthy. Thanks Adi for inviting intellectual nationalist guest. Wish words "you know" were to be minimal
So interesting and informative
Interesting..
Awesome insights by Rami Ji. Dhanyawad ✨ We wish to see you more on this platform, now going to watch your podcast with Abhijeet Chavda.
precise and informative conversation
Sir one suggestion, if i may! Your podcasts or videos are very informative, brutally honest, i wish the mainstream had a modicum of honesty and content. The problem is the language, the kind of advanced english and subtle sarcasm or jokes, m sure 95% of our urban population will not comprehend, leave the rest. But everyone needs to see and understand the message your videos convey. So subtitles may be or a hindi podcast if possible. Your info needs to reach the masses..
Jai hind.. Jai Bharat
As a Manipuri I know that India government playing chanakya nity of politics we give to India government back firing it policy .
जय भारत वंदेमातरम ❤
Jai Hind Jai Bharath 🙏
This discussion is a gem
Jai hind jai Bharat
It seems like as per Rami Desai, the citizens of India is allowed to butchered everyone we feel they are wrong. She keep on explaining, explaing. People are not really convinced anyone. It's time for the Govt to maintain law and order
Jai Bharat 🙏
Jaya ShreeRaama🙏🙏 Jaya Bhaaratham🙏🙏
Jai hind jai bharat
Jai Hind, Jai Bharat. Jai Shri Ram
Jai Bharat 🇮🇳🙏
Morality in Abrahamic Doctrine refers to scriptural morality, not the universal morality. Reason why no matter how virtuous, pure and good you are as a human, you are not entitled for heaven in the eyes of Abrahamic faiths if you do not subscribe to their tenet of One God, One Book.Meanwhile, no matter how corrupt the sectary of an Abrahamic faith is, he is entitled for a privileged place in heaven just because he believes in scriptural morality of his faith regardless of whatever cruel deeds those scriptures ask him to act in accordance with.
Lots of love and respect to you Rami maam 💕
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34:57 the missionaries and prolonged interest of British authority in North East areas.
Actually true
How about the recent NIA reports on the Manipur crisis?
Salute to Rami ma’am..
Jai Bharat ❤
Dear Adi, the north east have been converted by the British as the cannon fodder! The demography has been systematically modified! Jai Bharat!🙏
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Jai Bharatmata 🇮🇳🙏🏾
Nation first
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@naobakhundrakpam6507 health can't be perfected in a day... it need time and lot of working... we will do it together and get there don't worry. First be proud of your nationality and nation
I always wonder why Government cannot tackle poppy cultivation by other means focusing to the cultivator using already laid out laws rather than declaring war against a particular community.
We need to bring policies in favour for us
Voting must be done mandatory
Rami ❤❤❤❤❤
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Whatever Rami Desai try to explain and try to reasons and try to protect the acts of atrocities of Manipur CM and others The Atrocities committed to KukiZos cannot be forgiven due to the impunity in butchering of the unprepared students, officials and general kuki-zo population on 4th and 5th. This is what really make people feel so bad about the Manipur riots. and the govt indifference to catch the perpetrators
Which is the NGO and think tank? Please tell it for viewer knowledge.
Awesome conversation, mymmar seems to never get attention grom indians!
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Kuki dream JALENGNGAM ( separate kuki nation that is why kuki has well foundation both internal and national media+ other supports ) u see before 3rd may 2023 ( CM did identification of REFUGEES,WET LANE PROTECTION, RESERVE FOREST AREA... CUTTING POPI PLANT..) CM is MEITEI that is why kuki started burning more than 1000 house in churachanpur on the first days (3rd may 2023) with the help of SoO kuki militant ( SoO was started by Assam Rifles 2005 without Manipur govt with foreig underground KNA/KNF to control Naga NSCN and Manipur underground) next day 4th may MEITEIs retaliate by looting guns for self protection because both police and ASSAM RIFLES didn't give order due to SoO for Assam Rifles and Manipur DGP was KUKI... THERE IS NOTHING FOR Christian..hindu.. minority.. majority... And why didn't control till date?? Because kuki guns r LIGAL for Assam Rifles due to SoO and looted guns for MEITEIs r illigal because it's looted for self protection when Central and State force didn't protect MEITEIs
Jai shree Ram
This Rami self-claim expert in NE India is meitei mouthpiece only.That is it.
Nagas were supported by the Catholic church mostly money was freely flowing in for them hence tracing the same was difficult although the Government knew but Mrs. Gandhi suppoŕed them also.
The British thought to keep the NE secluded so that they could influence them. Due to lack of development insurgency started. China also played a part in the insurgency issue. The earst while Congress Government never wanted to solve the issue and kept delaying in solving the issue.
Long hours of research, working constantly for fifteen-sixteen years with the local and tribal stakeholders, politicians and thinktanks in the grassroot level brings a great level of understanding of a region.....
jai shri ram
Wonderful analysis covering not just Manipur but other related topics. And also not portraying the manipur conflict as a purely religious one.
Have always respected Rami ma'am for her point of view on the Manipur conflict, which is different from many Indian mainstream media: portraying the meitei community as the perpetrators & the other community as the victim.
However I'm surprised by her praise of the current ruling party government which rules both the centre & Manipur.
It's fine if you've your own political leanings, but to say the current ruling party has done a lot of good for the Northeast is something I can't agree with.
Even the special status which northeast enjoyed, was removed by this ruling party.
And the way the central government (under this party) is handling the manipur situation like a step father & giving geopolitics more importance than its own citizens is absolute proof that the current ruling party is not a good fit for Northeast in general & Manipur in particular.
(Previously also in 2001, Manipur legislative assembly was burnt down by angry mobs & 18 citizens lost their lives because of the action of the then ruling party in centre)
Jai Bharat Jai shree ram
Indians talking about the crisis like "experts" after reading from all the sources available on the internet. Their opinions are highly distorted or tilted in one direction or the other based on the source they read. In the eyes of the Meiteis the Kukis are the bad guys snd in the eyes of the Kukis the Meiteis are the bad guys. Take a break from all these people and listen to the neutral people who are viewing the crisis and who are enduring the harrassment from both the Meiteis and Kukis. Come and interview the common people from Nagas and Gorkhas who are witnessing every action from both the communities.
To understand more clearly please also study past 3-4years back on Manipur Biren Govt. Meiteis Nagas NSCN-IM social-political developments.
Not during Biren Govt's regime.
Manipur mei akar manipur area gaon gaon jakar pushchlo dekhlo manipur ke history parlo meitei kon hei kuki kon hei deklo manipur mei koncha dharam ye bhi janlo our bharat sarkar bharat ka force kya kar rah hei tab bolna achabhi lagega
War on drugs is the main reason
It's all about the contraband..
Rami's voice is echoing throughout. Perhaps using a headset with microphone 🎤 could help with audio clarity. In the present state, it is laborious to listen 👂 to her audio
The initial conflict was not based on religion but later on the valley people started attacking/burning churches in Imphal belonging to Kuki, alongwith churches belonging to Naga and also their own Meetei people. Attacking all churches got attention from various media in India and abroad. Then the narrative of poppy drugs, demand ST status, illegal migration, etc became louder from all fronts. It will be good if you could discuss the origin of the conflict and the sequence of events that followed.
Can be said we r paying price , facing problems cause of intentional ignorance and so called mistakes done by the Nehru Gandhiyan Goverment ruled for 70 yrs.
India is playing geopolitics and this aspect every individuals, politicians, media know, kuki and india government had been maintaining a very positive relationship, but manipur became a scapegoat,
Morphed video, selected happenings and repercussion were used by different social media for TRP, even trying to make it between Sanatani Meities and Christian Kukis. All Kukis are not militants, nor grow poppies. Birendra Singh ji the CM actually wanted to put an end to the this multi-billion dollars drug business. I was in Manipur for three continuous years all throughout Manipur and even visited the border areas. They are really good people.
We need hindi podacasts......
India Govt wanna erase the Meitei community because of thier historic sites as well as identity
Meitei is loosing not not loosing they have lost patience on bjp
They voted congress even if they know Kuki is voting congress too
Powerhouse and weapons storage are always preferred to be awake from capitals. North east and far away places are more vulnerable for such disharmonious activities .
Take multidisciplinary transdisciplinary and interdisciplinary studies on Kukis and Meiteis.Never depend on their narrative. Differerent theories may plead on the events.Study history of Kuki lebensraum and planning for kukiland .Why terrorism has become a tool first and foremost for Kukis, what's kuki action in B desh, Myanmar, Indonesia, Mizoram (Indira Gandhi crushed it). Cultural and economic and power questions as historical traits to find reality.Dont depend on what's been vomited out by them from both parties. Kuki initiative with terrorism from May 3rd2023 with terrorist actions with no non violent approach to authorities is another wonderful trait to be defended by Meiteis five days later
NRC is rightful demand of indeginous people of Manipur
´Social-media’ needs to specialise sooner or later before its irrelevance.
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