2019 BMW R 1250 RS | 1000 km Review | Nitpicks!

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  • I take the new RS on a 4 day adventure to the Eifel National Park with BMW Motorsport Burgdorf. After spending over 1200 km on this beautiful machine, one learns all the little things one might not pick up on a 1 day ride.
    Thank you Becker-Tiemann for letting me take this out for 4 days and really getting to know this bike. Becker-Tiemann Motorrad Paderborn: www.becker-tiemann-motorrad.d...
    Note: If you see any factual errors in my videos, please feel free to politely let me know in the comments. For any questions/inquiries please send an e-mail to nothingtoprovemoto@gmail.com, I'm not on any other social media platforms.
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  • @dg5433
    @dg5433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    At that price, nit picking is important. Two thumbs up Scott. Keep up the great work

  • @chldof1truekng434
    @chldof1truekng434 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Best reviews on TH-cam, clear, concise and to the point. You speak like a true rider, one who feels the motorcycle as I do. Keep up the good work.!😎👍

  • @blazeoconnor9899
    @blazeoconnor9899 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for your honest review. As you can tell with the rest of the comments, everyone appreciates this type of reviews. Good work and I would love to see more reviews like this when you get the chance.

  • @PiotrNowak_PL
    @PiotrNowak_PL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The most valuable review I have ever seen. This should be template for motorbikes review. Congratulations :)

  • @alithejumbo
    @alithejumbo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You're the ONLY motorbike reviewer of which I see the videos more than one time.

  • @norbert_engel
    @norbert_engel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great review. Very helpful:) So much more detailed than (most) other reviews I’ve seen. As someone else already mentioned here: two thumbs up for the review👍👍

  • @sgarcia37
    @sgarcia37 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Another great, honest review. “2 thumbs up”

  • @borissimic2890
    @borissimic2890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Totally agree about quick shifter and vibration. Awsome reviews. Keep up the same style of delivery

  • @Chris-vq5vr
    @Chris-vq5vr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really enjoy this guys review. Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺 mate. Keep up the great work

  • @carllewis1691
    @carllewis1691 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great review, honest, clear, helpful. Thank you

  • @seafriendua6101
    @seafriendua6101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait for it:)
    Thanks for review!
    Good luck and safe ride!

  • @ShineBright__
    @ShineBright__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do not worry you are not the only one who complains about shifting and that's why i watch your reviews cause they are honest and precise ....keep doing what you're doing man !!!

  • @piotrtomczyk114
    @piotrtomczyk114 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm looking for a new bike next spring and honest down to the ground reviews like your's are very helpful thanx Scott

  • @andrewsmith3062
    @andrewsmith3062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have had the R1250RS for six weeks and absolutely love the bike, as a short rider of 5'5" and a 29" inside leg the bike is perfect, I opted for the 790mm seat height down from the 820mm. The bike is easy to handle with a very low center of gravity, it is confidence inspiring with terrific engine braking capacity. I have moved from a Triumph Tiger 800 low with no regrets, for me the BMW is so much better, yes there are a few nitpicks but these are easily outweighed by its performance and handling. I hope that we see a resurgence in good old sport touring motorbikes. Thanks again for a brilliant review.

    • @carlingsrus1448
      @carlingsrus1448 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This has just made my day reading this, I have just bought one and I'm 5ft 4inch

  • @JPHOT100
    @JPHOT100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’ve got an XR which I bought in spite of some mixed reviews. I LOVE the XR BECAUSE of some of the things other folk don’t like. Honest opinions are the best. Fantastic review....!

  • @mathiashammar1
    @mathiashammar1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These nitpicks realy help me alot choosing the bike. Vibrations is one of those. Thanks for great review.

  • @travelinben1966
    @travelinben1966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Objective reviews by riders like you, are most important and welcome.Hopefully, BMW is listening too, and can use your nitpicks to make a really good bike even better.Thank you for sharing your experience.Well done!👍👍

  • @PaulThorpeOfficial
    @PaulThorpeOfficial 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great review, love your style, you deserve many more subscribers.

  • @gammaraytube
    @gammaraytube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Hi Scott. Fair review. I have the 2017 1200 RS. Best bike I have ever had. I do one long tour per year and day trips most weekends. On longer, multi day trips I have been close to empty if I don’t plan my fuel stops.
    Buzzing on the handle bars between 4 and 5 thousand RPMs is the characteristic of the bike. So I ride below or above. At highway speeds on cruise control I have no problem finding a good RPM. Bike likes 120 to 140 kph
    My bike has over 20K on the clock. No issues. It is deceptively quick, agile I am 6 foot 4 so I have the sport seat and HP adjustable foot pegs. I do feel a little cramped after more than 2 hours in the saddle.
    Thanks again for fair review.

  • @tudajfor
    @tudajfor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    That's why we like your videos, you give an honest review!
    Please keep it that way.

  • @mohammadoskuie9345
    @mohammadoskuie9345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Hi Scott. Thank you for your awesome reviews. You know how I know you're being honest on your reviews? I was in the market for a BMW 1250 GS, not a single reviewers on TH-cam mentioned about that super obvious engine vibration between 4000 and 5000 RPM. I ended up buying the damn bike not knowing about this issue. Now everytime I'm on the highway the vibration comes on and it really bothers me.
    Thank you for being honest on your reviews and keep up the good work.

    • @pistolpete6321
      @pistolpete6321 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mohammad Oskuie same thing happened to me with the GS, I purchased bar end weights and that solved the vibration problems.

    • @edholmes4759
      @edholmes4759 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      PistolPete63 yeah I’ve done that at grip puppies too but the mirrors still blur big time.

    • @62Easy
      @62Easy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great review! I hate bar vibrations too. My 1250 GSA is super smooth. Hardly feel any vibration in the bars or pegs. What is the difference? Do all RS have this issue?

    • @SAMFICOM
      @SAMFICOM 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No vibrations on my R1250GS.

    • @bryanohlsson4689
      @bryanohlsson4689 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Got tired of the vibration on my GSA and upgraded to the K1600GT. No more off roading, but my long trips are much more comfortable.

  • @nikkonkde
    @nikkonkde 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fair review. I love it. The showroom people never tell you this and a 2h ride test is never enough.

  • @Fernando90054
    @Fernando90054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Dear Sir, first of all , thank you for the bike review.
    It’s always important to know the cons of a so expensive machine in advance.
    Although , I find all negative points you stand out pretty indifferent :
    1. The Austin yellow is just a beautiful choice of paint job and I find it refreshing.
    2. The vibrations are very welcome, I like to feel it!
    3. The capacity tank, is not an issue to me, as I enjoy to stop for short periods, after riding not more than 200/ 250 Kms.
    So, taking this three aspects in consideration I find the bike very near to my ideal concept for touring. I don’t need a higher wind shield, I don’t need a higher seat, and I don’t want less vibration. Because if I wanted that maybe I should start considering buying a car or travel by train, plain or any other way. Not riding a bike. The lack of some comforts is something that the biker wants to feel, always alive, always alert, because the first choice of a rider is not to find safety and comfort...at least that’s not a Pryor towards the machine you choose for touring. The safety thoughts are important in everything but mainly in terms of atitude of the rider, and that comes first than the purchase of a bike like this.
    Thanks again for the review, and don’t think that I didn’t saw your difficulties in finding defects on the bike ;-)

  • @travelinben1966
    @travelinben1966 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're right on the money for bar risers on the RS.I sat on one in the showroom,and within minutes I could feel the weight on my palms getting to my wrists.Everything else I could live with.Thanks Scott.

  • @bensuave9431
    @bensuave9431 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your great reviews

  • @hiagftd
    @hiagftd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's nice to find honest reviews.
    I have to agree with the quick-shifter performance. I have an '18 1200GS, and I always ride it using the clutch any time I'm in traffic. If I have an open stretch of road, I'll give it the beans and quick shift every time.
    I had terrible vibrations in the grips until I installed some Evotech bar-end weights. They removed all of the lower frequency vibrations, but some higher frequency vibrations still come through. Grip Puppies mitigate some of those, and the remainder aren't terribly annoying.

  • @RubenTavernier
    @RubenTavernier 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scott, your review is so very spot-on that I recognize most of the points you touch on from my own R1200R. Yes, the previous generation roadster. Most issues you highlight transcend both the R/RS and the 1200/1250 gap. Well done and thank you!

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Ruben, yea, they are little things that would not stop me from buying it, I'd just fix the handle bar/windscreen/higher seat and be done with it, the rest I can live with.
      Ride safe, Scott

  • @tommyb6422
    @tommyb6422 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought my 1250 gs based in part from your review (and test ride). Trust your honest, straight forward reviews, opinions.

  • @mickshere9642
    @mickshere9642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Many thanks, I own a KTM and am taking the RS for a test ride tomorrow and really appreciate your thoughts

  • @alexpapa7757
    @alexpapa7757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review Scott.

  • @antoniomarzoanotlevsen5343
    @antoniomarzoanotlevsen5343 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hola, Scott. I am a crazy beemer. You're always clear like the water. Honest. I like your videos, explanations & analysis. Keep on this way.

  • @CL83biker
    @CL83biker ปีที่แล้ว

    I always love your video! Thank you.

  • @On2WheelswithDennis
    @On2WheelswithDennis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Liking your videos a lot!! Good work👍👍 btw if they planning a new series of the A-Team you will be “Face” 🤣🤣somehow you constantly remind me of him!! All the best! Regards Dennis

  • @mukundraipatel8334
    @mukundraipatel8334 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many thumbs up for doing you're thang. Nothing to prove lives up to his name & on the side, you're our newest NFT material.

  • @abhinavsingh388
    @abhinavsingh388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome review and many thanks for doing this. In the Covid lockdown I am unable to test ride this bike but was seriously considering buying this. The ergonomics challenges that you called out would have been a massive issue for me as I was planning to take this bike on a European tour and the vibrations, seat and the handlebars would have caused me major issues... so thanks again.

  • @auscurrymaster
    @auscurrymaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Nice review Scott. I actually wouldn't call those nit-picks, I'd call them genuine important issues and I'm glad you brought them to my attention - especially the fuel range. The vibration is also critical in a sport-tourer.

    • @ReferenceFidelityComponents
      @ReferenceFidelityComponents ปีที่แล้ว

      Except there’s nothing wrong with the fuel range, it’s more than adequate at legal speeds. Keep it below 80mph and expect up to 60mpg. Vibes are simply not a problem. They sorted that with revised final drive damping. I disagree with the reviewer here, I’m sensitive to bar vibes and my RS has none I notice at all.

  • @spetersonmusic
    @spetersonmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep it real and keep 'em coming. Two Thumbs up for Scott @ Nothing to Prove!!!

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Scott, keep watchin' and I'll keep makin'em. :)

  • @didiermarchant2807
    @didiermarchant2807 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great review Scott, from a Beemer guy 😉 And by the way, I like the colour. Cheers.

  • @cperine39
    @cperine39 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, terrific review! Just great. Awesome bike.

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. A lot of guys think that I don't like this bike because I "nitpicked" it but I will do that for every bike for a 1k review and every bike can be nitpicked, it's just a matter of finding a bike that you can live with those nitpicks. This is one of those bikes that I can fix all nitpicks but one the tank size. So this bike I can live with.

  • @yakmaister
    @yakmaister 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scot, wonderful review. I like this bike and these little issues not a big concern for me. I knew about the handle bar stretch, but didn't' know about others, good to know them before purchasing. Thank you.

  • @worldsnomad
    @worldsnomad ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic review, and reviews ! 👍👍

  • @michals1108
    @michals1108 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review. Thanks again

  • @leooostveen4435
    @leooostveen4435 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Smooth as butter and smooth as silk. Striking colours including the bike. Hearing 'kilometre' pronounced the way it should be was a joy.

  • @jimharr
    @jimharr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Regarding the windscreen height, in addition to the high/low adjustment, there are 2 mounting positions on the 1250 now.

  • @jofr4
    @jofr4 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this review and finally, I’ve found someone that have compared this bike with the ktm gt! That’s the bikes that I’ve doubt of witch one to get !

  • @soifranc
    @soifranc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vibrations in the feet and hands to the point where you want to let go fo the bars is beyond nit picking. Great feedback.

  • @seanhunter111
    @seanhunter111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Nice review. I bought this bike and absolutely love it and your review(s) were a big part of my decision. I don’t feel the vibes you experienced or to the extent I do feel vibes they don’t seem at all noticeable or uncomfortable to me (Just a boxer thing maybe?). I agree about the tank range but I guess that’s one of those compromises - bigger tank = more weight high up. The boxer engine (love it as I do) is a heavy old lump so probably the smallish tank is part of just trying to keep the weight down as much as possible. The brake fade you mentioned hasn’t happened to me but I haven’t had an opportunity (nor do I have the skill) to ride it nearly as aggressively as you. I think I did notice in the owner’s manual a warning that using the brakes aggressively in high ambient temperatures can lead to brake fade and riders should be aware of the possible impact - I wonder if that’s something affecting all bikes or if there’s something particularly bad about the Brembos on this one. As a returning biker the brakes are *so* much better than my 2002 bike that they would have to fade to almost nonexistent before it became a problem though. Ride safe.

    • @ljj808
      @ljj808 ปีที่แล้ว

      AGREE, AGREE, AGREE

  • @trevinormandy14520
    @trevinormandy14520 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As an American living in France I like your vids (I’m half French too) keep up the good work

  • @marcinm4637
    @marcinm4637 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    GREAT job. Thank you 🙂

  • @alvaromateosfernandez-maqu5772
    @alvaromateosfernandez-maqu5772 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review thanks

  • @motorradingaround1220
    @motorradingaround1220 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this color and this bike I can’t wait to own one one day

  • @michaelgonzales1401
    @michaelgonzales1401 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fair review, love my RS.

  • @thejohnnerparty
    @thejohnnerparty 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review.

  • @mrtruthshallprevail
    @mrtruthshallprevail 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like you review style sir. Subscribed! I own a R1200RS 40K km 3 years in. Excellent bike but not perfect; you were spot on about the upgrades required. I have the sport seat, and wunderlich higher wind screen. The handlebars are a little on the sporty side, I am sticking to stock for now but may get a new handlebar due to the sore wrist issue.

  • @kevinmobile
    @kevinmobile 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    AS an RT owner (I appreciate this is more of a touring bike) I've looked somewhat enviously at the lesser weight on the RS. None of us are getting any younger after all!
    But, it's easy to be seduced by this slimmer model and if long distances are your main thing consider these remaining advantages for the RT:
    1) No vibrations on the RT of the type or magnitude mentioned on the RS on bars or foot pegs
    2) A sensible sized fuel tank (25 l) and range
    3) Centre stand does not scrape the ground at high lean angles on soft suspension.
    4) A decent height and incrementally and electrically adjustable windscreen
    5) A more upright position so less weight on the wrists.
    6) More weather proofing due to substantial fairing and arguably more road presence
    7) Satnav is set further in line with the dash so not distracting compared to the cradle on the RS
    8) For those on a tight budget, insurance group is typically two levels down on the RT compared to the RS
    Other criticisms such as the shifter are valid on both these boxers though the seat height range is wider than suggested for the RS going from 760mm to 840mm (4 seat types available). 760-850mm on the RT on 3 seat options.
    .

    • @stevecade857
      @stevecade857 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      One thing you missed was the waaay superior pillion comfort on the RT. It's why I had to reluctantly move from my RS to an RT. It used to make my ears hurt.

    • @kevinmobile
      @kevinmobile 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevecade857 Yup, that's true and perhaps that's to be expected from a model that has continuously evolved and incrementally improved over many years. For 2020, I'm hoping the cubby box might be enlarged enough to get my iPhone 7+ inside with perhaps a USB charging port!

    • @Pisceanboi
      @Pisceanboi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very interesting comments and points of difference between the RS & RT. Arguably there are more compromises in the RS as it attempts to straddle the needs of touring and the desires of sport. Here in Australia, the No.1 selling model is the R1250 GSA followed closely by the R1250GS, with the R1250RT coming up in third place - but at about half the sales numbers of the GS/GSA. Interestingly, few GS/GSA owners I've spoken to take them off road - in part it's the "long way around" image that attracts, and the knowledge that IF you needed to go off road you could do it, but few do given the cost of them, and the ease of dropping one in off road conditions unless you're a very experienced rider off road. Beyond that, given our vast differences on indifferent roads, the GSA scores with that huge fuel range, plus good all round ability for both touring and sport - albeit not as good as the RS for sport, or the RT for touring.

    • @raulciska7503
      @raulciska7503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good points Kevin, Steve and John. I bought the R1250 RT (2019) so I can offer my wife a comfortable touring experience . . . she doesn't abide going anywhere with me on my S100RR.
      It would have been easy to "conform to the peer group" and buy the R1250 GSA, but I don't ride off-road, and as Scott says, I've got 'nothing to prove'.

    • @s.k.6823
      @s.k.6823 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wonder if the leanangle when the centerstand scrapes on road is the same on the RS with RT in same modes. The criticism also hits the r1200/1250R with Center stand.
      Maybe pegs on the RT are lower?

  • @paulordeman5169
    @paulordeman5169 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good review. A bike that is premium priced such as this, Nit picking is important. The more you pay, the less flaw's I'd expect. Keep doing these reviews!

  • @bobbytrendswestsyd9736
    @bobbytrendswestsyd9736 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review

  • @brucebrown6597
    @brucebrown6597 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank-you....Thank-you.... Thank-you.... Currently a S1000R owner and was seriously considering the R1250RS. Previous bike was a FJR1300ES and didn’t like the top heavy feel and weight. Will definitely test the RS in the coming week and will look for those little niggles. Thanks for the honesty and enjoy the ride!!

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Bruce, it is a great bike and if you are aware of the niggles and they don't bother you, then you will love the bike. Enjoy the test ride and if you like it, get it! It is an awesome bike.

  • @j.d.thompson3505
    @j.d.thompson3505 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate the review because I just looked at one of these. It's on the top of my list for a new bike in 2020. I haven't seriously considered a KTM, but your comments have piqued my curiosity. Especially the ergonomic and fuel range comparisons.

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. Yes, take both out for a test ride and see what fits you, that is basically what it comes down to, does it speak to you on an emotional level or not. If it does then the cons (of either bike) won't bother you at all.
      Ride safe, Scott

  • @12joelmn
    @12joelmn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah , appreciate the honesty always, 100 percent.

  • @richardpower9346
    @richardpower9346 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Please do the same with the BMW S 1000 XR love the honesty....!

  • @kevinbrennan2004
    @kevinbrennan2004 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good honest review.

  • @markanthony6128
    @markanthony6128 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    First time someone has been able to understand the little things , I also share some of your concerns excellent you do know and in touch with motorcycles to pick those items out just after 1200kilometers .

  • @edholmes4759
    @edholmes4759 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the 1250gs and it has hand numbing vibrations too. At around 5250rpm the mirrors are completely blurred out. I think to bike is more comfortable at higher revs which is not where most seasoned BMW riders like to be. It’s going back to the deal for investigations soon. As regards the ergonomics most people will change screens and bar positions to suit themselves. Great review, I like it that you can change your mind from the initial ride. Most would just want to justify it. Nothing to prove - as it says on the tin 👍👍👍.

  • @nickbadham9662
    @nickbadham9662 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review, great detail!!!! You just saved me thousands on this bike which I nearly bought. Ill go with the 1250GS instead. Thanks!

  • @manselltache5322
    @manselltache5322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Scott I’m surprised you chose the F900xr after living with this beauty for 1k km

  • @MrBekkiz
    @MrBekkiz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. Thumbs up!

  • @kalaga2k
    @kalaga2k 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the colour...

  • @manardh7387
    @manardh7387 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review, you are correct on the money. Not all people would worry too much if they have cash to spend to upgrade or modify. I wander if tires would make a difference with the vibration. For shorter riders the lean forward might not be a concern. I think many bikes are made for people about 5 foot 9 inches tall.

  • @harsanyibalazs7181
    @harsanyibalazs7181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice review!!!! U gotta be honest,that what review is all about. Also could be valuable feedback for BMW to improve.

  • @tslah
    @tslah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BMW guys, let's be gentle~! I love the honest review!! lol

  • @christian__8359
    @christian__8359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Scott, thanks for the German Translation :D
    I hope i can buy this Bike next Month.
    Greetings from Bavaria,
    Christian

  • @jopeRS1200
    @jopeRS1200 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Danke, für die Fakten!!👍😊

  • @dorstefan
    @dorstefan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the color.

  • @leviefrauim1425
    @leviefrauim1425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vibes in handlebars and footpegs- uh, no. That's not a niggle, that's a NO, especially for a bike designed to be an ST. Thanks for your honesty! This was a bike I was considering but not any more.

  • @RacerJuan42
    @RacerJuan42 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent review Scott...I’m intrigued by the R1250RS, but the fuel range you mention is a non-starter. I’m sticking with my FJR!

  • @Supernova12034
    @Supernova12034 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    awesome review, stark contrast to some youtubers who insist on every bike being great!

  • @your_royal_highness
    @your_royal_highness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really like the slightly used 1250RS I just got so far. I rode a 1200RS for a thousand miles and it was pretty nice. This is a real step up, I think. No brake issues so far; in fact, the rear brake is the best I’ve ever had that I can recall on any bike. The extra 15 lbs on the 1250 are very noticeable vs the 1200. Feels like more than that. But, given that all bikes have some compromises to them I’ll accept. This bike is not a sport bike and doesn’t handle like one. For a boxer with some degree of heft it still handles sharp turns well. I like it because of the partial fairing and the tall AeroFlow screen and deflectors provide excellent wind protection (which is extremely important to me), the suspension is terrific and the acceleration actually approaches that of my old inline four ‘09 K1300GT (the closest thing to perfection I’ve ever ridden, except it weighed 625lbs and was taller). The new technologies and seating position are better for my desires with the 1250. Very pleased and yes some bikes are pricey. But, you only live once!

    • @GS-xg4nz
      @GS-xg4nz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That cheered me as he was putting me off this bike a bit with the 'vibrations' chat. I can live with fule range as at 58 and I need to stop for a piss every hour or so anyway! ;) Test ride on Friday hopefully. Some 2019 models for about £12K now so I can live with that. Cheers

    • @your_royal_highness
      @your_royal_highness 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The handlebar vibration is almost nonexistent with the heavy weight bar ends I put on mine. Slight to begin with, too. I’d like to test the F and the new S1000XR, just for kicks. But, the 1250 is great.

  • @robdove4105
    @robdove4105 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your details regarding nit picks. Nice thing regarding nit picks is they may or may not be important to some folks. It seems that the same engine is available in several different bikes. The GS, GSA, RT and RS all share the same engine and can be had with many of the same upgrades. A couple that you did not mention were the spacing of the shift lever and the small size of the grips. I had to add something to make the grips bigger and it is a bit of a challenge to get my big feet positioned to work well with the shifted. As to effort to control the bike I have found no issue but suspect it might be a size issue as I am considerably larger. The other mitigating factor in my case I found bikes with clipons very comfortable as I can carry weight on my shoulders and arms leaning forward. It is nice to know how you felt regarding these things and others can look at them and decide if they will be an issue for them or not. I do like your reports and thanks for sharing them.

  • @piethendriksg9654
    @piethendriksg9654 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good review. We all know that it is a very good bike. And it is difficult to find out what is not so good in a roadtest of 1 hour. Now we all know.

  • @companeroloco
    @companeroloco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, nice test and a real honest opinion. I own the 2016 R1200RS - I can confirm the footpeg vibrations, but not the handlebar. But to be honest, when I ride on the autobahn, I always use the cruise control, so I do not have to keep my hands tight on the bars. One thing to consider when comparing it with the KTM - the KTM‘s got a chain, the RS the Kardan, which is much more comfortable when it comes to cleaning and maintaining the machine - I do not want to miss the Kardan anymore, especially when it is so sporty as on the RS...

  • @DavidSmith-ve5kj
    @DavidSmith-ve5kj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks your the best !

  • @vicsusinetti3482
    @vicsusinetti3482 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good review. I have the bike you tested and agree with all the nit picks except seat height which suits my height. Tank capacity is an issue that has to be managed especially out country way. One thing BMW tells us this is a road sport as compared to a road tourer but hey whose nit picking now. Keep the reviews coming.

  • @AMPJ08
    @AMPJ08 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would like that you get every bike a similar review. Well done with this one. I say it’s a waste of money paying for bar raisers and general changes on the ergonomics. That defies the purpose of the bike and changes the feel of it, with the amount of bikes available now it is way easier to find the one that suits you in another model or brand.

  • @MrTrek164
    @MrTrek164 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scott I've got one of these on loan at the moment and I totally agree with everything you've nit picked especially the bad vibes .With spirited mixed riding I've been getting 38 mpg uk which is imho poor ,even my old vfr averaged 44mpg when it was getting ragged . Yes the BMW is a nice bike but there are better for the money .Great vid m8

  • @stephend4552
    @stephend4552 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    like a lot your content ! keep going !

  • @jeffandrews6225
    @jeffandrews6225 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good honest review, that colour could grow on me👍

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea it kind of grew on me over the 4 days that I had it but not enough to where I'd buy one with that color. In the sun it looks great but in the shade and at night it does not look good at all, imho.

  • @LuBiBochum
    @LuBiBochum 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thumbs up, great!!! 👍

  • @mikedignum1868
    @mikedignum1868 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to agree with you on the nitpicks. I owned the 1200RS and i had the majority of those problems. I also had the bar risers and bought Grip Puppies due to the vibration (which i thought they would have sorted out) I think ill stick with my GS1250.

  • @helmutsandner867
    @helmutsandner867 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 1984 BMW R100RS has 24 litres of fuel. I usually get 320-350 kilometres before switching to reserve. Which gives me at least another 40 kilometres distance.
    I have had my bike since April 1985. And have ridden 493,000 kilometres in that time frame. The bike is still powering along great.
    Being born in Munich Germany. But growing up in Australia.
    I have always had a passion for BMW bikes and cars.
    Thank for your unbiased review of this motorcycle.

    • @florislok
      @florislok ปีที่แล้ว

      350 km is a big difference with the 280 km when I go to reserve. I have a R100R from 1995. Although I must say that I always have to do a lot of city kilometers. So probably the difference has to do with the much better aerodinamics of your RS? I’m sitting straight up on my naked bike.

  • @troppo4872
    @troppo4872 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was an excellent, honest review. Thanks. You have confirmed my decision to purchase the Super Duke GT.

  • @sg_tigergg622
    @sg_tigergg622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for YOUR onesty.....thank's very much.....i'm looking you from France.....have a good luck....buy

  • @0RZ0WEI
    @0RZ0WEI 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just purchased that exact bike and I´m 100% with you. The only problem I hate and I see very difficult to fix are the vibrations, but even with that I can´t find a better bike than this at this moment in time. Let´s hope BMW release a bike like this but with an electric motor... Great review thanks for sharing your knowledge!

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hello, bar end weights will help to reduce the vibration. I've had several guys say that they've done this to their RS & R and it did reduce the vibration to an "acceptable" level. Just google "bar end weights for BMW R1250RS" and there are lots to choose from. BTW, you can replace the RS bar with the R handle bar, they are inter-changeable. The R bar gives you a more up-right riding position. In fact my local BMW dealer offered to switch to the R bar on the RS for free, if I was to buy an RS.
      Ride safe,
      Scott

    • @ljj808
      @ljj808 ปีที่แล้ว

      With a bar riser fitted (which is a must for me & High seat (which mine came with)) I have no vibe problems. Fuel is a bit small, but more fuel = more weight. Yes, needs a diff screen or spoiler, but loads of options out there. Best bike I’ve had in 8,000 miles so far. And Scott has an RT, so a lot of his own critiques he’s swallowed to buy that bike. Esp after his hassles with the XR900. If you buy a KTM = IT WILL FAIL

  • @stevelawrie9115
    @stevelawrie9115 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can tell you from BMW experience, I own a K1300S and when I took it in for a service, Germany changed, free of charge the baffle in the brake master cylinder because of brake fade, due to the speeds I tended to travel.

  • @derglockner
    @derglockner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @NothingToProve, Hi. Good Test, I'm driving it since one week, some of your "nitpicks" for me not comprehensible. No noticeable vibrations on handlebar or footrests, average consumption around 4.5 L during Austrian cruising modus (130 speed limit on Autobahn). I took aftermarket windshield and handlebar improvement as recommended 👍 and additionally rear wheel cover. Now I'm happy with my "little GS".

  • @MoraleHazard
    @MoraleHazard 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good review and honesty is the best policy. I recently bought one of these bikes and I am really enjoying it. That said, I think some of Scott's nitpicks have merit. The ones I agree with are handlebar reach, working it through technical twisties, and fuel tank size. Less than 200 miles (~320km) range on a sport tourer is a drawback. I live in the Northeastern USA where gas stations are plentiful, so it’s not a big deal where I am, but if I lived in the Western USA, I think it might be a problem. One slight bit of criticism for Scott’s review is range is going to be reduced on any machine when running over 100mph (160kph). The USA (and UK, and France, etc.) doesn’t have the autobahn and I think range when riding at USA highway speeds (70-90mph / 120-150kph), one can get close to the 200 mile mark. I think BMW’s stated fuel consumption numbers are optimistic, but, so far, I’m averaging 45 miles per gallon, which puts me at a 200 mile to empty range.
    I also agree with Scott’s opinion of having to work the bike through technical twisties. It takes more effort on the RS than something with wider handlebars or less weight. The heavier handling also evident when commuting and doing slow speed maneuvers, especially on uneven pavement. But this drawback is contrasted by the glorious lines this bike carves in high speed sweepers. The rock steady lines are a big plus. Last point of agreement is the handlebar reach, but I think it’s because the RS is more traditional sport-tourer and less upright hooligan machine like the S1000XR or SD GT. I don’t plan on making ergonomic mods until I have more miles on it. With respect to the quickshifter, I found upshifts clunky when holding steady throttle and smooth when opening the throttle (even if it’s not full open.) I did not (yet?) experience the handlebar or foot peg vibrations. I haven't had brake fade either, but I don't have the skill to keep up with any truly competent sport bike rider. Edit: Took it out today and kept it at 4500 rpm and definitely noticed the buzzing. At 4000, it was so slight, it was not noticeable. At 4500, definitely noticeable.
    The RS still puts a stupid teenager grin on my face and I’m glad I bought it. I love the looks, torque, steady handling, TFT screen, and it being deceptively fast. Good job and thanks for your reviews Scott. Keep them coming.

    • @lance2256
      @lance2256 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      so what are the speeds you running at those rpms.

  • @BlackProjectNL
    @BlackProjectNL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good solid honest review, not many are completely honest:), I had a 1200 RS nothing wrong with it, until I purchased the KTM 2019 SD GT, agree with your "woulk be" decision, the KTM is a more exciting (better) bike. However, I never rode the new 1250 RS, had also a 1250 GS (sold it; no soul, to perfect), hence, I have some experience with the 1250 power train; they all have vibs at 4000 to 5000 rpm. The KTM 1290 SD GT is an animal, with a exciting grunty mid range and a space shuttle top end. Once again good video!

  • @flowrider5548
    @flowrider5548 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, I concur with those below honouring your honesty here. Makes you a rock-solid source of valuable information. Do review the very first 2020 BMW S1000XR available (new engine & chassis), I intend to buy a very early one :-)

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As soon as it hits the dealership, I'll be on it! :)

  • @Bernievids
    @Bernievids 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stop whining guys. The boxer always does that. It reminds you to chill out. So what, just loosen your grip?! Pop the cruise on and just hit the gas if you want. I rode without holding on for nearly 30 km and just leaning the bike in rain! I bought mine and rode it home 1100kms as the deal was good. These bikes are weapons. Trust me, this bike is so safe at ‘nothing to prove speeds’ ha ha and at that speed, yes, you burn through the gas and it won’t cause grief to anyone who holds 200km/h in corners as you’ll get a break when filling up. I’ve got anecdotal feedback that the quick shift improves better with more kms however lighter throttle positions requires positive more inputs. You’d always buy a BMW if you want to never regret. Great review.

  • @nassoslampropoulos4887
    @nassoslampropoulos4887 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Scott, congrats for the thorough and honest review. And for being brave to mention the issues you haven't noticed during your first short test-ride.
    Just a couple of questions pls if I may:
    Which octane rating petrol did you use to test the range? 95 or 98? I have an FJR and I can tell it makes a lot of difference...
    Secondly, in which speed range are you with the RS from 5 to 6k rpm with 6th and with 5th gear? I just wonder how notable these vibrations will be while riding in the highways and the secondary or twisty roads?
    Thanks again!