Vegetarians and Stroke Risk Factors-Vitamin D?

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  • @falsul96
    @falsul96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    I hope I won't get that stroke before the end of these cliffhangers

    • @ConfusedCatto
      @ConfusedCatto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😂

    • @blabla-gp6gt
      @blabla-gp6gt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      salut ! cu greu gasesti români vegani. multa bafta !

    • @probean513
      @probean513 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's oxalate toxicity, oxalates are especially toxic to the endothelial cells of the arteries, leading to atherosclerosis.

  • @v-sig2389
    @v-sig2389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Omg the cliffhanger

    • @lucas11235
      @lucas11235 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Spoiler: vitamin b12

    • @alvaromartinezmateu2175
      @alvaromartinezmateu2175 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@lucas11235 and probably omega 3 and omega 6 ratio

    • @primitiveprimate5529
      @primitiveprimate5529 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the format

    • @ivanak7149
      @ivanak7149 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

    • @letsdomath1750
      @letsdomath1750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know! That's why I stop watching his videos for a few months so that I can binge it all without the frustration of the cheezy attempts at building suspense. 🤣

  • @Jane-no3id
    @Jane-no3id 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I'm becoming VERY tired of the cliffhangers!!!!

    • @VeganChiefWarrior
      @VeganChiefWarrior 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hey, atleast you arent deficient in cliffhangers

    • @vascoamaralgrilo
      @vascoamaralgrilo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe the cause will be something Dr. Greger has already mentioned to be important, so don´t worry!

    • @wonderwonder-xr2xq
      @wonderwonder-xr2xq 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vascoamaralgrilo I know that whatever the question, the answer is *always* "eat a whole-food, plant-based diet, and take vitaimin b12"! So that's what I do! (Plus I try to reduce sugar, salt & added oil & fats...)

  • @sharit7970
    @sharit7970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Thanks for doing the research and posting!

  • @Cristianousp
    @Cristianousp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Hey Doc, you’re killing us with this soap opera...we wanna get to bottom of this please 🤓

    • @DrReginaldFinleySr
      @DrReginaldFinleySr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was thinking the same thing!!

    • @sup9542
      @sup9542 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I actually like it, it encourages the viewer to critically think about the problem instead of just consuming information.

    • @probean513
      @probean513 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's oxalate toxicity, oxalates are especially toxic to the endothelial cells of the arteries, leading to atherosclerosis.

    • @probean513
      @probean513 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theinfiniterick6937 Those guys who had low LDL were probably all taking statins and statins are the cause, not low LDL.

    • @emmas816
      @emmas816 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      apparently he doesn't have the answers, stop eating foods which are too high in oxalic acid (spinach, almonds, beets, okra, swiss chard) and also cut down on fruits, no more than 1 serving a day, because fructose converts to endogenous oxalates. Oxalates mess up calcium metabolism causing excessive bleeding.

  • @paulpardee
    @paulpardee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    These cliffhangers remind me of the old news teasers "There's something in your kitchen that could kill you! More on the 10pm News!"

  • @PeterKruseMusic
    @PeterKruseMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Also I think too much salt and fast food, even for vegans.

    • @DrReginaldFinleySr
      @DrReginaldFinleySr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@biot7175 Not overall, no. But you could control for fast food vegans and more whole-food vegans.

    • @321naturalTV
      @321naturalTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Gera Hey I fully agree. Beer, deep fried twinkies, oreos and soda are all "vegan." Good to remember the "SOS" foods in moderation (Sugar, Oil, Salt).

  • @albertneville8918
    @albertneville8918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So glad you are covering this subject doc. I've been waiting for this.

  • @FilipElfvin
    @FilipElfvin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    whats up with all the cliffhangers...?

    • @laurieparis2203
      @laurieparis2203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's how Dr Greger teaches. Short bits of info that are actively sought out, are better retained. 🌱

    • @ollit4193
      @ollit4193 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The man has to sleep and get a break from making videos too (we don't want him to get a stroke from the stress of making videos!!)

  • @stueydoubleyou
    @stueydoubleyou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always leaving us wanting more

  • @drvincentesposito
    @drvincentesposito 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the info in these videos. Way to break this stuff down and weed through the information!

  • @arallskiant9923
    @arallskiant9923 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I bet in the next vid Dr. Greger will scold us for not taking our weekly B12!
    I plead innocent!!

  • @sharonspoetrycorner.1427
    @sharonspoetrycorner.1427 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love HiM, hate the cliffhangers! 🤣....Looking forward to his next video for sure! 😎

    • @DrReginaldFinleySr
      @DrReginaldFinleySr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have a feeling they are testing out the waters. They'll see that we hate it and they'll probably stop. I hope.

  • @KP-dd2ci
    @KP-dd2ci 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Way way way way too distracting having you on the screen Doc.

  • @kriticalkritic
    @kriticalkritic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saturated animal fats are associated with lower rates of strokes. Journal of american college of cardiology June 17 2020

  • @patriciakeaton3981
    @patriciakeaton3981 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank You.

  • @datt5698
    @datt5698 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vegetarian and vegan are very different also.... most dairy is not the best to consume.

  • @stephss
    @stephss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    And here I thought I needed to stick my face up against the window for longer :-)

    • @Nikenik2001
      @Nikenik2001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only works when you don't cry. ;-)

  • @emmas816
    @emmas816 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is oxalates to blame, not only from the vegan food such as spinach, almonds, beets, but fructose (from fruits) and too much vit C are causing formation of endogenous oxalates, those in turn waste calcium causing some coagulopathy predisposing to increased bleeding.
    Vitamin D is another factor affecting calcium metabolism, it says - people who had strokes during the follow-up years were more likely to have a severe vitamin D deficiency.

  • @aaroiseverything
    @aaroiseverything 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting science! Thanks for the video!

  • @gridcaster
    @gridcaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On an anecdotal level (my personal experience) I feel like I increased my salt intake when I switched to 95% vegan diet. It wasn't by design, but more of my recipes require more salt now. I am concerned about the increased salt intake, but I've always taken the attitude that overall salt is not as bad as meat AND overtime I might be able to decrease the salt intake as my tastes changed. Its been about 5 years and I still eat a significantly higher than recommended amount of salt.

    • @auberjean6873
      @auberjean6873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      gridcaster , I hope you manage to eat more potassium in your food choices/supplements to offset that salt! I've been craving salt too, now that I'm becoming vegan. The sodium - potassium pump is a fascinating subject in regards to the heart and cramping!

    • @emmas816
      @emmas816 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@auberjean6873 or he can mix his salt with potassium 1:1 proportion and stops worrying how much salt he eats.

    • @auberjean6873
      @auberjean6873 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emmas816 Excellent idea, unless he eats packaged or canned vegan!

  • @teresagalena3227
    @teresagalena3227 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    come mi piacerebbe avere i sottotitoli in italiano perché stimo molto il dott. Greg 💚💚

  • @TheSuperDoum
    @TheSuperDoum 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omega6/omega3 ratio, maybe? Cant wait for the next vid

  • @CharGC123
    @CharGC123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vegans are NOT the same as whole food plant based eaters! Though they both avoid animal product... soda, oreos, fries, and all the highly processed "specialty" junk foods are vegan... but not health promoting, so to me "vegan" studies are meaningless when it comes to health outcomes.

  • @Lunaa_Lovegoood
    @Lunaa_Lovegoood 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the cliff hanger is Omega 3, i saw it in another video of his on this topic

  • @lloydchristmas4547
    @lloydchristmas4547 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent series.

  • @johnsnow5264
    @johnsnow5264 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Dr. Greger. Do you have any data / feedback on Vit D lamps instead of supplements? There seems to be only one company providing such a lamp approved by the FDA. Your opinion is highly appreciated.

  • @ericgeorge8449
    @ericgeorge8449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think I am going to have a stroke from the anticipation.

    • @sandray7609
      @sandray7609 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @cynthia97701
    @cynthia97701 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So, in conclusion.........
    In my general opinion, and I’m not a doctor, but I’m thinking because vegetarians still eat EGGS which are one of the highest Foods in cholesterol. Some Vegetarians also eat fish and cheese.Well, despite still have cholesterol that is adding to the arteries. And sometimes the damage is already been done to our arteries. So even when switching to a vegetarian and vegan diet it’s a good day but, if you have significant damage already done here, diaries, that’s a serious matter. Medication probably help. But I’ll Wait for the next cliffhanger, LOL

  • @cuddlesanddaisy
    @cuddlesanddaisy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Low intake of collagen?

  • @kingorbit
    @kingorbit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I went plant based five years ago because both my parents had a stroke and yet I have not changed my chances of getting a stroke? you know I am really beginning to think I mislead myself with this diet change, I just wanted to believe it. I didn't want to go out the way they did, it was horrible. Funny how I never saw that chart showing vegans have the same stroke risk as meat eaters. In my case that is a lot of books that left that out.

    • @emmas816
      @emmas816 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It depends, if you have bleeding issue, if you see tiny red dots on your skin - cherry angiomas - then yes your diet possibly puts you closer to getting hemorrhagic type stroke - in this case cut out fruits (fructose) from your diet and include some meat every day. Fructose and too much vit C are causing formation of endogenous oxalates, those in turn waste calcium, even if your blood level calcium seems normal your cells might be deficient causing some coagulopathy predisposing to increased bleeding.

    • @happygimp0
      @happygimp0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look at the numbers, the vegetarians had a lower rate. The higher rate is only there after adjusting for multiple things. The right conclusion of this study should be: "Vegetarians had a lower stroke rate, but only because of non-dietary factors. Another study is needed to compare the effects of a vegetarian diet to the stoke risk"

    • @kingorbit
      @kingorbit 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@happygimp0 I am really focused on what Dr G said about vegans, he said , " statistically have significantly higher risk of any kind of stroke". Which is odd because his book how not to die does not mention this. And his entire program is plant based , not vegetarian. So I guess a vegan diet will lower your chance of having a heart attack but raise your chance of having a stroke.

  • @manikdob1985
    @manikdob1985 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    u r simply outstanding sir

  • @Srindal4657
    @Srindal4657 ปีที่แล้ว

    WFPB is so much work. its well worth it but I need to be unemployed to have the time to cook

  • @marlajacques6947
    @marlajacques6947 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hard to gauge, I know vegans and vegetarians that drink a lot and consume lots of oil.

    • @herbbowler2461
      @herbbowler2461 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Going low fat vegan is not advisable. We need fats and oils to reap the benefits of a plant diet !!!

    • @marlajacques6947
      @marlajacques6947 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Herb Bowler well since both of my parents have genetically induced high cholesterol and my mom lacks lipase, recommending fat of any sort in diet could be a death sentence for some people. My father had a severe heart attack at 42. Not interested in repeating the mistakes, if you can handle fat then good for you

    • @herbbowler2461
      @herbbowler2461 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marlajacques6947
      TAKE LIPASE ENZYMES.
      WE NEED. FATS TO METABOLIZE FAT SOLUBLE NUTRIENTS.
      AND TO RID OUR BODY OF FAT SOLUBLE WASTE.
      WITHOUT FATS WE ARE UNDER NOURISHED AND TOXIC.! !

    • @jamesf5303
      @jamesf5303 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@herbbowler2461 yes we need healthy fats such as nuts seeds and avocados. We do not need highly processed, overly caloric, nutritionally void oils

  • @williamcooper8559
    @williamcooper8559 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh these last two videos around vitamin D are killing me... Pun intended.

  • @CequalsRN
    @CequalsRN 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the intro!

  • @neiloppa2620
    @neiloppa2620 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My guess is salt intake.

  • @MENDLER1
    @MENDLER1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not a big difference.

  • @julieheath6335
    @julieheath6335 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your links don't work!

  • @checkmark7970
    @checkmark7970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be interesting if being less likely to die of heart disease means that vegans are likely to live longer (other things being equal) than non-vegans, and living longer means being more likely to have a stroke at a later age. In other words, maybe non-vegans don't have strokes because they already died of heart disease, whereas vegans live longer and therefore live long enough to eventually have a stroke...

  • @dairy_fairy
    @dairy_fairy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can whoever is editing these videos, do something about the green screen in his glasses, it is seriously distracting and easy to fix!

    • @wasimoooo
      @wasimoooo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Didn't notice it at all before reading your comment. I guess I'm too focused on the text.
      What is that?

  • @Kozim10
    @Kozim10 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! :)

  • @SlowEnduro
    @SlowEnduro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    13 minutes of what it isn't so far. Still no answers

    • @Magani79
      @Magani79 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      watch the next videos

    • @laurieparis2203
      @laurieparis2203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But you can't say he isn't covering all the bases, for a well rounded educational experience! 😆🌱

    • @Magani79
      @Magani79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@laurieparis2203 i love it

    • @laurieparis2203
      @laurieparis2203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Magani79 me too! Dr Greger's videos are the scenic route to the destination, with frequent stops to think about what what we've just heard. We learn as much on the journey, as we do at the destination.

  • @Anarcath
    @Anarcath 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It’s not vitamin B12, is it?

    • @lucas11235
      @lucas11235 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, It is

    • @arallskiant9923
      @arallskiant9923 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If we talk about vegans then it can only be B12 I guess. Sadly some might not take their weekly B12 supplement and rely on their fortified food maybe.

  • @lola.odetola
    @lola.odetola 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    yesss!! love when you post x

  • @brittpower
    @brittpower 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omega 3?

  • @glenncahn1007
    @glenncahn1007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too much blather and wasting of time ,not enough data. Save me the suspense, and just present the facts succinctly please.

    • @Ecalypse
      @Ecalypse 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The source list is available should you want to just get the data instead of listening to someone open it up and discuss relevant things.

  • @Old_Hippie29
    @Old_Hippie29 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did I miss something? I thought at the end of the last Vit D video he ended with the question about how much to take and said he'd answer that in the next one. So the answer is don't bother?

    • @laurieparis2203
      @laurieparis2203 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The answer is that no amount of vitamin D is essential to avoid stroke. Bc it doesn't seem to be a factor in stroke pathology. That's different from "don't bother", bc vitamin D is important for other bodily functions. Just not stroke. 😊🌱

  • @beatnikbanditracing3688
    @beatnikbanditracing3688 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have to wait? Unconscionable

  • @Xassefras
    @Xassefras 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s the salt. Dr Fuhrman also talks about this.

  • @sapphiro
    @sapphiro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The answer is: broken heart 💔
    Being hopeless romantic and having empathy in general is the cause.
    Meat eaters don't "suffer" from those.

  • @KlaasVictor
    @KlaasVictor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Maybe the clogging arteries protect against bleeding. Now that would be a plot twist!

    • @mrh6407
      @mrh6407 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sugar and veg oil

    • @80slimshadys
      @80slimshadys 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That _is_ what happens. The hardened arteries from hardened plaque build up adds more resistance to vascular hemorrhaging, but on the flip side that makes it harder for the arteries to dilate when there's a blockage. Vegans have cleaner arteries so we are more vulnerable to vascular tearing and hemorrhaging though we dont have the prerequisites necessary for that to happen.

    • @KlaasVictor
      @KlaasVictor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@80slimshadys Fascinating!:-)

    • @mrh6407
      @mrh6407 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      80 Slim Shady's thinner try lack of quality fat and cholesterol in the diet

    • @80slimshadys
      @80slimshadys 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mrh6407 Wrong, arteries are normal, healthiest without high amounts of cholesterol. You don't even need to eat cholesterol to raise your cholesterol. Long chain saturated fats from oils and coconut products do a better job of raising cholesterol so its a feeble attempt to try and insert that we need something from decaying flesh, You just saw what happens when you add more cholesterol and saturated fat in the video! Strokes occurred more often as you ate more animal fat.

  • @nqkoi159
    @nqkoi159 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel like the video should have the answer to the question, not one of the many wrong answers.

  • @mysenf3575
    @mysenf3575 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omega 3 to 6 rate?

  • @dairy_fairy
    @dairy_fairy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Everyone is just guessing here, so I might as well throw it out there.... it's the lack of sex!!

  • @kuangoseilah8082
    @kuangoseilah8082 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Added salt is the problem, it's too high in health food products. And if a sick person becomes vegetarian after they're sick with something, moving or changing to vegan or vegetarian foods, the health food companies have high added salt food like the other companies this doesn't help them improve. Making all their own food without added salt will help more if they switch.

  • @l.lalala3455
    @l.lalala3455 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was thinking about low Taurin Level. I saw that it is associated with stroke risk. Still for me, would prefere to take a taurin supplement then eating meat, and risking a heart attack. Would be interesting to test that.

    • @probean513
      @probean513 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not anything that you can only get from animal products. Dr Greger is good at cherry picking studies, he is not gonna put veganism into bad light.

  • @porfirisefstathiadis7576
    @porfirisefstathiadis7576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I guess omega-3s are coming up next.

    • @probean513
      @probean513 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not omega 3. You get all the fats you need from eating potatoes only ans look how tiny amount they have fat so it can't be because of lack of fat.

  • @manumaster1990
    @manumaster1990 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @robinbutler9353
    @robinbutler9353 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You left me hang'n with this one Michael 😝

  • @allencrider
    @allencrider 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's because of lack of Joel Fuhrman's supplements.

  • @mgfatso
    @mgfatso 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe a lack of omega3 in the brain?

  • @jessicakyle6855
    @jessicakyle6855 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Come on dude, you’re killing me here!

  • @curtisnixon5313
    @curtisnixon5313 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    B12?

  • @TheQuietAmerican.
    @TheQuietAmerican. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please don't be salt intake. Please don't be salt intake. Oh crap, it's salt, isn't it?

  • @bengilkes7676
    @bengilkes7676 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why would you presume that someone diagnosed with heart disease would become vegetarian and continue eating the dairy and eggs that helped cause it? Dr. Greger seems recently to be very confused about things that he himself has provided clarity on. These recent videos seem only to serve those wishing to confuse. Suspicious.

  • @trevorregay9283
    @trevorregay9283 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think.....Vegans/Vegetarians tend to eat saltier foods believe it or not.....so this lends them to having same stroke risk as Omnivores......since, Omnivores love their salt as well....

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't take B12 and my levels keep at 300. Am I doing it right?

    • @leonardodavinci7425
      @leonardodavinci7425 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Should more like 500

    • @leonardodavinci7425
      @leonardodavinci7425 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @DaRKsOUL Lower end of normal, normal also doesn't mean optimal

    • @VeganChiefWarrior
      @VeganChiefWarrior 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ you need to test homocystiene and methamalonic acid to see if your 300 b12 is actually lowering those inflamation markers to a healthy range

    • @chrispicakes6577
      @chrispicakes6577 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Steven L. You can store about 5 years worth in your body and it will start to deplete.
      If you go too long without b12 you can have permanent nerve damage.

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrispicakes6577 Yeah, I've been on the lookout for any symptoms, but just going by the test my levels have remained the same 6 months in and 4 years in. I'm going in to get another workup this week.

  • @blakmasta
    @blakmasta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know its salt

  • @jrmint2
    @jrmint2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    iI'll bet t's k2 - MK-7, found in organ meat, grass pastured dairy, and natto or chinese fermented salted black beans, douchi

  • @vespeneprotoss4346
    @vespeneprotoss4346 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who says eating a vegetarian or vegan diet offers any advantages in terms of stroke in the 1st place that you're looking for reasons why the results are not there? Maybe they're all the same because the vegetarian/vegan diet does nothing to reduce your stroke risk.

    • @albertneville8918
      @albertneville8918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Circular argument is circular

    • @vespeneprotoss4346
      @vespeneprotoss4346 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@albertneville8918 He said "What's so increasing their stroke risk that it's offsetting their natural advantages" ... I'm saying, maybe they don't have these "natural advantages" and their stroke risk is just the same.

    • @vespeneprotoss4346
      @vespeneprotoss4346 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ No. It says there's a 3 out of 1000 greater chance of getting a stroke if you're vegetarian/vegan ... ie- a 0.3% chance. I'd call that negligible, which goes back to what I was saying "maybe they don't have these "natural advantages" and their stroke risk is just the same."
      Let's be honest, the 27s mark says a vegetarian/vegan diet reduced risk of heart attack by around 1% ... I'd call that pretty negligible too. It certainly doesn't fit into the vegan mantra that going plant based reverses heart disease and makes you almost heart-attack proof.

    • @vespeneprotoss4346
      @vespeneprotoss4346 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ true true. I get what you're saying now.

    • @laurieparis2203
      @laurieparis2203 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vespeneprotoss4346 Dr Greger is working around what vegans,/vegetarians can do/eat/take to close the one hole in their diet that puts them at higher risk of stroke than everyone else. How to perfect the diet, if you will. 🌱

  • @KP-dd2ci
    @KP-dd2ci 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought we all agreed the good Dr. doesn't need to be featured in the video, and just graphs and charts are more effective for the audience to take in the info.

  • @SummersTimeEntertainment
    @SummersTimeEntertainment 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great cliffhanger. Should've said, "don't stroke out before the next video."

  • @anniedjaswadi
    @anniedjaswadi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm vegetarian I hope I won't get stroke, I also use Vit D3. B12, C, Omega 3, Magnesium.

    • @anniedjaswadi
      @anniedjaswadi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @DaRKsOUL I had three months joint pain in my knee, I hardly can't walk after I'm taking Magnesium citrate 2x400 mg a day the pain is gone that's why!

    • @anniedjaswadi
      @anniedjaswadi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @DaRKsOUL yes I used Magnesium for a long time because of my knee, since I use Magnesium no pain anymore. Why?

    • @anniedjaswadi
      @anniedjaswadi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @DaRKsOUL I can't just give up my Magnesium, I went to see the doctor of my knee he gave me painkillers it doesn't help. That's why I used Magnesium for many years i feel great i can running again 3x times a week 15 km.

    • @anniedjaswadi
      @anniedjaswadi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @DaRKsOUL 69

    • @laurieparis2203
      @laurieparis2203 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you're not eating flaxseed or chia, you might consider a DHA/ EPA supplement? Also try Cronometer for a few days, input your foods to see how much magnesium you have in your diet without supplement. Mine is way over the RDA, just by eating whole food plant based. You don't want to overwork your kidneys any more than you have to. Particularly as older adults. 🌱

  • @israrasif9489
    @israrasif9489 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    did u know vegans also live only as long as meat eaters.. 65 approx is vegans life span same as meat eaters. but they dont bring that up very often do they.

  • @probean513
    @probean513 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's oxalate toxicity, oxalates are especially toxic to the endothelial cells of the arteries, leading to atherosclerosis.

  • @Anono8996
    @Anono8996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vitamin k? Too much Vitamin k?

  • @markveen1373
    @markveen1373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After doing alot of health research myself including longevity research. Reading alot about the blue zones lately. I came to the conclusion the pescatarian diet is best for me. Just need to be careful with the heavy metals. But sardines are pretty safe and straight up cheap superfood. I also like pickled and RAW(Dutch) herrings and ofcourse quality salmon. Dont fool yourself saying a b12 pill is the same thing.

    • @DrReginaldFinleySr
      @DrReginaldFinleySr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You have to consider bioaccumulation. Sardines are safe'er, but not safe. They are lower in the food chain so they have fewer toxins. However, the more you eat, the more chance of tissue accumulating those very same pollutants you wish to avoid.

    • @auberjean6873
      @auberjean6873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DrReginaldFinleySr, great point!

  • @ylonmc2
    @ylonmc2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Guys if you don't like the cliffhangers, did you know that you can all wait a few weeks and then watch the whole series at once? Yes that's an option.

  • @jackxburke
    @jackxburke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    B12

  • @Michajeru
    @Michajeru 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So where in the bloody hell do we go from here?

  • @entrehierroeideas
    @entrehierroeideas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WHAT'S GOING ON!?

    • @kingorbit
      @kingorbit 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      what I learned is that vegans have the same chance of having a stroke as meat eaters. I never saw that chart before.

  • @DrReginaldFinleySr
    @DrReginaldFinleySr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's aliens.

  • @coleknippen730
    @coleknippen730 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    SUGAR SALT AND OIL!!!!

  • @wikjor100
    @wikjor100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What age were the vegetarians?

  • @LatinGhost916
    @LatinGhost916 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vegetarians should just blend Moringa tree leaves and I bet they’ll be fine

  • @Leksa135
    @Leksa135 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHAT'S GOING ON

  • @lorah3005
    @lorah3005 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    #BoycottMeat and all other animal products.

  • @sooooooooDark
    @sooooooooDark 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    id assume its >20g omega 6 intake
    which in itself is inflammatory like satfat, but has the added malefit (is that a word?) of reking one's omega 3:6 - and since omega 3 is especially bad on most veygan diets its not just doublely but actually tripplely bad

  • @ChrisZ70
    @ChrisZ70 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this guy's speech pattern an affectation? Serious question. He speaks very strangely. Is that how he really talks or is he trying to be interesting/different/entertaining? I wonder if when he's home he says things like, "Honeydidyou ......taaaaaake.....THE DOG OUT???"

  • @rhyothemisprinceps1617
    @rhyothemisprinceps1617 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:11 Table of hazard ratios

  • @Pyriphlegeton
    @Pyriphlegeton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That wasn't a very informative video, I have to say.
    Seemed a bit like just a time-filler.

  • @lukasm5254
    @lukasm5254 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spoiler: it's B12 and omega-3 to omega-6 ratio unless there is more science out in the last few years.
    Edit: clarified omega-3

    • @probean513
      @probean513 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not omega 3. You get all the fats you need from eating potatoes only ans look how tiny amount they have fat so it can't be because of lack of fat.

    • @lukasm5254
      @lukasm5254 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@probean513 Ok right, it's more omega6 to omega3 ratio

  • @tylermarentette9953
    @tylermarentette9953 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    SALT 🧂! 💯!

  • @bengilkes7676
    @bengilkes7676 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr. Greger this new style of video is very bad. You are repeatedly not making a clear distinction between a vegetarian and vegan diet. You seem to be acting confused about vegetarians being unhealthy. Stop.

  • @AP-ei4jt
    @AP-ei4jt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The artery clogging is from the tears caused by the excessive pumping pressure and the hardening of the arteries in and around the heart. The arteries in other parts of the body do not have this problem. This is the result of a low mineral diet, excessive carbs, stressful lifestyles, and lack of sun exposure (UVA and NO deficiency). Meat is not the problem.

  • @nickithorn1590
    @nickithorn1590 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    B12 deficiency -> raised homocysteine -> strokes

  • @peterfaber9316
    @peterfaber9316 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's the vegetable oils combined with high carb, my dear vegans.
    Do yourself a favor and quit the vegetable oils. Use better plant oils that weren't chemically extracted from seeds, then bleached and then deodorized to make them edible.

  • @sooooooooDark
    @sooooooooDark 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    and u could say the ex-vegans r under the healthy quitter effect then i guess 🤔

  • @bengilkes7676
    @bengilkes7676 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm realising lately how irritating this man is.