CommanderTaco I know they removed the pills inside the grenade launcher because it used to fire 6 shots, but now It only shoots four, so they had to change that. But idk why it still has 6 slots, it's not hard changing it to 4.
Fun fact: just in case if you never saw it, one of the game’s tips that randomly pop up in the loading screen for connecting to a server says “As a Demoman, your bottle does the same amount of damage wether it is smashed open or not”
apparently you can't break the bottle now because now all models operate on the c_model system as opposed to the old v_model and w_model system. saves on memory, though I can't see why they don't just add in a c_model of a broken bottle when you crit.
Nah. The only actual difference is on the weapons, you're all brainwashed by the game industry's "darker/more shading=better graphics. The only difference is lighting and gleam.
3:26 As somebody whos fairly new to the game I remember seeing that you can get ammo from dropped weapons in one of the games loading tips or wherever that is and got confused as it didn't work
Yeah valve forgot to update the tips ever since they first made this stupid change in 2015. And since you’re new to the game, I would recommend playing on these 2 things first before playing on public servers which are “training” and “developer commentary” with captions turned on in the options
@@heavenandhello6629 I mean all things considered, dropping an ammo pack makes a bit more sense than getting ammo for weapons that are very much not a rocket launcher from a rocket launcher That said, I do wish it wasn't just straight up the fucking medium ammo pack, that's always been a bit goofy [and can sometimes kinda lie to Engineers] even if it does work at being noticeable, but I feel like there's gotta be something that checks the boxes of making sense as a universal ammo pick-up that is noticeable and can be expected to be carried by the mercs, like an ammo _pouch_ or somethin', same basic idea, but it's not a whole-ass box On the subject of hints, another example of hints not being updated is that Sandman-related ones still mention the ol' stun mechanic Still hate that got Thwacked entirely, could've at least kept it for Moonshots, because as it currently is the Sandman gets entirely outclassed by the Wrap Assassin, a god damn cardboard tube and a bauble
The reason they did this is because in the source game engine, there can only be 2048 entities ( objects, props, hats, lights, etc ) so valve removed unnecessary entities and animations due to the fact so many people were wearing the fancy new shiny hats they released, and you go on a 32 player multiplayer server where everyone has a hat, you can reach that limit and possibly even more than the limit too!
Unfortunately, only the stock and Natasha had separate models for the first person, other weapons like Tomislav and Brass Beast did not have models for the first person so you couldn't fully see their barrel when spinning
The bottle not breaking anymore for optimization sounds really fucking ridiculous. The bottle becoming unbreakable helps with performance? What the fuck was going on in that bottle, storm calculations?
Morgan Freeman maybe removed when they did the console releases and it needed to be kiddy friendly. Likely merged development branches so they weren't different for all the versions and the bottle breaking was lost. also explains the animations in the medic gun no longer working, consoles probably needed it out for optimisation.
I love how the video slowly changes from being normal to being like a murder mystery in tone as we discover things may not have become all that we’d thought…
im memes nah bruh it's only on the maps crowbcat depicted. The lighting is actually fine on the hundreds of other maps in the game. It's just the 5 original maps that are a bit screws do to game updates
its good map design to make things darker, it makes the enemies pop out far more, this has actually been an important factor in the game. if you look at the characters they all have a very small white outline to make them stand out from the background
That and everything else in this video never happened for tf2 on this game bundle pack called “The Orange Box” for Xbox 360 since it’s the same exact thing as what the pc version used to be like in 2007 due to it never getting updated for 16 years unlike the pc version. And if you don’t have a 360, it can also be played backwards compatibly on the original Xbox One, Xbox One S, and Xbox Series X.
Eh, I dunno. Some of what makes the game interesting and unique is the Source spaghetti it's running on. Trimping probably isn't something you get in a modern game engine unless you specifically try to code it in.
@@scyfrix it's kind of like melee, the meta's developed so much over the past 20 years, that at this point, we'd just have the game stay the same instead of being altered. i feel like something similar would happen with tf2 in source 2, backstabbing i feel would be changed completely, and as a spy main, that's just not my style
At least I now know that breaking the Demo's bottle, spinnig barells/rounds, sappers falling on the groung and grunting noises were real and not a fragment of my imagination
@@energeticyellow1637 nah. i still have the orange box for pc and tf2 looked this good on pc as well. I suspected that the game looked worse years later, but couldn't quite put my finger on it. Now I know for sure, they downgraded it. So disappointing.
@@Viruz32 oh yeah I know. It used to look really good on PC too but I think around 2015 was when everything started to downgrade when they added those god awful weapon skins.
@@D00000T if valve were ever up to the task which I highly doubt, i'd love if they could port the game to source 2 and possibly make it 64 bit. that would increase performance by a fuck ton.
@@mr.101.8 in the 2007 version of spy's reload, spy's gun covered a large amount of important screen space which made it hard to actually see what you wanted to be shooting
@@merucrypoison296I disagree, removing the scream upon taking fall damage was good because the scream didn’t actually sound like the mercenaries. Also making ammo boxes instead of picking up dropped weapons for ammo is both more obvious and makes more sense and also allows you to pick up dropped weapons
Cereal hero 0900 I don't think that the bullet from the sniper coming out from the right place and stuff actually landing on the ground instead of just not existing and many other things are unnecessary some people like myself like good graphics they could at least make it an option in the menu
I played this game in 2007 and all the bugs that the game had made the knives even more overpowered. For example you could stab a player in the back when you were not even attacking him from behind!!!!!
If you choose better graphics then play the 2007 version of tf2 which is on this game bundle pack called “The Orange Box” for Xbox 360. If you choose hats then play the pc version that everyone knows which is gonna die from the bot crisis. And new players will never know about community servers either
I remember some years ago when people with demomans would take their bottles out, smash it against the wall a couple of times and then furiously going after you. Great memories. Demories
Ummm…no, it took 1 year because the health and ammo packs in the intel room hallway and spiral were added in the Goldrush update in 2008. It was the very first major update of tf2, and it was what gave us the payload map Goldrush and a whole bunch of other medic achievements.
The reason they got rid of cel shaded-esque style is either because they were trying to make the game more modern like and also trying to optimize the game for more cosmetics.
Thomas Berry yeah I agree. An option in advanced settings would have been a great middle ground for people with good computers and people with bad ones.
Damsen all the new updates added more garbage for PCs to handle, with only a few people at Valve who still work on it, it might’ve became unoptimized (is that even a word?). The graphical downgrade could’ve became a response to this, but didn’t fix the issue entirely.
Disoptimised may be more accurate ( unoptimised would be for sth never optimised in the first place) and if it doesn't exist id be glad to have coined the term. :)
downgraded for a performance boost in 2017? this game was designed for potato pcs in 2007, a potato pc in 2017 would dominate this title at max settings in the desired resolution
I remember I used to stand there in awe at the shininess of the weapons back in 2007. When I played it now I used to think to myself “Man, I could have sworn these looked better back in the day” BUT THEY ACTUALLY DID! I wasn’t wrong lmao! Why did they change them? They looked so much better in the past!
60 fps is an understatement.. you can probalby run the game at 300 fps on settings that would cause modern tf2 to go down to 40 fps, depending on the map and cosmetics ingame
@@ryanmomtahan4786 there is also a mod for tf2 called TF2 classic, it has old 2007-2009 vibes too but it has scrambling teams option which is in my opinion bad because I think in old TF2 version the same thing happening like people often were pressing that option because it's unbalanced teams or someone is mad because he losing.
Tf2 classic is just a mod. It’s not the OFFICIAL 2007 version of tf2 that was created by valve 14 years ago. I only want to play a 2007 version of tf2 that was made by the company who made tf2. Not something that was made by a person that doesn’t know that you can just play the 2007 version on the Orange Box for Xbox 360
@@corlfranco9371 youre pretending like something being glossy and something being low res are one and the same. oh no, he has an artistic preference! better use a sarcastic comment to show him opinions arent allowed
I can live with a lot of the changes since the game is still fairly playable (yes I know there’s still the bot problem) but the one thing that really bothers me is the lighting changes just make every class look like they constantly have a flashlight underneath their face 😢
I assume models were simplified to accommodate weapon skins, which I'm not a fan of. Though I'm glad they removed the grunting from fall damage as the grunting didn't match with the actual characters voices.
Not just the weapon skins. I believe that they got rid of a lot of the animations in an attempt to better optimise the game, considering that cosmetics and unusuals (particle effects) likely have a significant impact on performance, and those are additional visuals that the engine has to render.
The game was a pretty unoptimized piece of shit in the first place anyways. There's a popular joke that even the most powerful rig couldn't run TF2 at max settings because the game was just so poorly optimized. A lot of this was was probably done to lower the strain on systems.
I wish they allow us to toggle "Better animations and effects" in the Advanced Options, so we can choose whether or not we want said details on our own.
Wasnt that the point of pc gaming? Adjust which details you want your way not fat cat companies deciding how the game will run and play like those dirty console peasants
Everything in this video never happened for tf2 on this game bundle pack called “The Orange Box” for Xbox 360. And it’s the same exact thing as what the pc version used to be like in 2007
A lot of people say they worsened the graphics for optimization. However, I'd say that, most of, if not, ALL weapons look worse due to an *oversight*! They screwed up the weapon materials, such as drastically increasing the rim light boost (the ugly grey shine you see on the scattergun at 0:38) , and replaced most weapon lightwarps with a different, more smoothed out gradient (like on the shotgun at 2:41). They also updated most Phong masks (a texture that tells which parts of a model are reflective) to have a more "uniform" intensity applied everywhere, instead of showing up only on tiny scratches or paint strokes, leading to, yet again, a more greyish shine on the model. They can make the current weapons look drastically better than they used to, but they simply choose not to. In fact, they have quadruple the texture resolution as the original models, but they also keep the same, high polycount regardless of whether you're seeing them in the third or first person. Plus, the rigging is screwed up, which explains why the syringe gun doesn't spin.
Everything in this video never happened for tf2 on this game bundle pack called “The Orange Box” for Xbox 360 since it’s the 2007 version of the game that never got updated for 15 years unlike the pc version. It’s the same exact thing as what the pc version used to be like in 2007. You need to buy an Xbox Live Gold membership in order to play it if you don’t have one. And if you don’t have an Xbox 360, you can also play it backwards compatibly on both the original Xbox One, Xbox One S and the Xbox Series X
that's because of the alteration of how guns work in TF2. They originally acted as ammo, however they can now be picked up and enemies drop ammo packs upon death.
@@heavenandhello6629 youre only really going to be looking at it in your own viewmodel, anyway unless youre doing closeup shots in a replay for your epic gameplay videos there is no reason for it to move
@@heavenandhello6629 graphics that you notice for exactly 1 minute, say "that's neat" and then you go back to not looking at it for the rest of your life
Omg I logged back in the other day and I thought to myself “this game didnt age very well” but now Im realizing all the initial gloss and charm is all gone
These changes have gradually happened over the years. Plus if they did that, it would make no sense - you would think a free to play game would be unoptimized compared to a paid game where people pay money. If Valve hadn’t done their BS with all the hats they’d be better off just bringing back the original release of the game after the bunny hop patch.
Back then you could run the game with a Pentium and it would be smooth just like other Source engine games. Now i still get some lag spikes trying to render that banana head double unusuals floating above his head.
Everything in this video never happened for tf2 on this game bundle pack called “The Orange Box” for Xbox 360 since it’s the same exact thing as what the pc version used to be like in 2007 due to it never getting updated for 16 years unlike the pc version. And if you don’t have a 360, it can also be played backwards compatibly on the original Xbox One, Xbox One S, and Xbox Series X.
I reported the video. The rest of you should do the same. These are just minor, insignificant details for a game that's had swaths of updates and years of support. Way to scrape the bottom, Crowb.
He didn’t travel back in time, he just recorded footage of tf2 on xbox 360. The xbox 360 version is still 2007 tf2 since it never got updated for 18 years unlike the pc version.
Whoever turned the lights off on the pc version of tf2 forgot to turn the lights off for tf2 on this game bundle pack called “The Orange Box” for Xbox 360
@@scoundrel8440 but he wasn’t saying that, he was just saying that Valve never bothered to update console TF2, so it still looks virtually identical today on console from when it was released
@@setukas But, seriously, I've been thinking... I install the Source Film Maker for the first time last night, and, it still support the 2009 Team Fortress 2. And I was shocked, very shocked. Like I was on year 2007 again... You know what I mean? I was playing Heavy and Medics, and everything and it was still on past Team Fortress 2, haha... (Medic's syringe gun is super fast than now, wow!) Annnd, I don't know why you guys acting like Splooshy is not knowing anything? I mean, what? I don't know what's the problem of he just said, I'm serious. And not joking around. The following 360 version is what 'supposed' to be how we play Team Fortress 2 in 2007. We were not having a good computer in 2007, but we have highly better computer now, but now we have to play Team Fortress 2 in shitty graphic than 2007, because of tonsa stupid update such as Unnecessary hats&cosmetic, or the guns that don't actually need for the game, (I'm just happy to carried default gun setting.) Jungle Inferno update, and more maps, or Meat your Match update - which is the straight reason how TF2 become even crappy than how TF2 meant to get old. And some of the contents that I can't explan it all. What's up with the Team Fortress 2 nowdays, honestly? TF2s are cool back then. It really became shitty, nothing but pros are take over the server or match, eventually. And I'm not very happy about that, I'll rather just play Half-Life over and over again instead of being playing nothing but body exploding bullshit and unknown mann's are fighting each other in weird fortress and wasteland or UFO that nobody can't tell when the rounds are even end and they just eventually complain about when will this rounds are gonna over. TF2 itself was 'mindlessly' amazing, I remember playing Team Fortress 2 all day all night when I was kid, even when I passed a bed time. I was just simply stunning at. unless NOW, it became an whole joke in 2019 and they used to make Jojo reference joke or expiration date ytp memes, either rocket jump market gardening pro mad movie that doesn't seems very different between Counter-Strike 1.6 mad moive - that I don't want to see anymore of them. Or them costume setting artwork, especially. Also, the weapon skins are kinda unnecessary. It just makes game's capacity high enough and makes it to director must change TF2 graphic to low no matter what. I hate how Valve and you guys turning each other like woosh or think this is the best solution, Valve would not listen if I'm say anything about TF2 in customer service and you guys too, but I can't honestly say that I will not playing TF2 anymore, I will definitely gonna play it soon no matter how TF2 treat me like nothing but try hard money charging bitch. That's what I hate about this whole situation. You just can't escape from all this bullshit. I mean "I", can't. I hope you guys are having better day today than me. Well... I'm just.... Not. Okay? Well, some of the people are already playing XBOX 360 version of TF2 nowdays in their own force, and I'm very glad to hear that.
![Team Fortress 2 Classic is a Fun Trip [TF2c]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qijPAuDcVnI/mqdefault.jpg)
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only took 9 years to bring back bottle breaking
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They had to optimize all those little details away to make room for more hats.
R0B1NG5 it's kind of sad that this may actually be a genuine reason for these changes.
Such a stupid reason, they shouldn't have done it
+Sabino Codesal there is something called sarcasm which you obviously fail to get ..
R0B1NG5 Fuck the hats I want to hit people with a broken bottle and see my revolver reload with actual bullets
CommanderTaco I know they removed the pills inside the grenade launcher because it used to fire 6 shots, but now It only shoots four, so they had to change that. But idk why it still has 6 slots, it's not hard changing it to 4.
So the graphics got...worse?
Kyotosomo
Basically
@Kyotosomo So,did you watch the video ?
just like mass effect.. :(
No
i dont think it got worse, it just they got rid of the unnecesarry visual effect.
The hell is wrong with scout he became like a war veteran who saw it all.
Definitely the case
About what part of the video ya talking about?
Joshulties and his eyes looks like he's dead inside
That's what 10 years of fighting will do to you
I mean it has been pretty rough 12 years for him, cut him some slack.
When i was young, i though the demoman’s broken bottle did more damage than the regular non broken one
man, these days I was playing tf2, and the thing breaks, I thought exactly about that, but then I died and I couldn't make it break anymore
It always crits so i don’t blame you
Fun fact: just in case if you never saw it, one of the game’s tips that randomly pop up in the loading screen for connecting to a server says “As a Demoman, your bottle does the same amount of damage wether it is smashed open or not”
Bruh, I just found out till now.
me too
Ubisoft : Downgrade game before release.
Valve : Downgrade game 10 years after release.
What absolute chads
Actually things were sacrificed for particle effects, weapons, ans events like Halloween not just dropped for no reason
Still operating on Valve time.
@@chazym9649 but why not make these optional? Why not give players with stronger computers the option to turn the detail back on?
Actually Ubisoft has downgraded graphics after launch. Look up Trackmania 2.
I KNEW IT! YOU COULD BREAK THE BOTTLE IN EARLIER BUILDS! IT WASN'T A FEVER DREAM AFTERALL!!!
Pretty sure you can still break it in the current game. You just have to kill a player instead.
No, theres no way to break it at all now
Edit: this comment is 2 yrs old, they added it back into the game
Oh, wiki says it was removed after the Love & War Update. Mystery solved.
hazeman671 yep i swear in 2014 you could break the bottles
apparently you can't break the bottle now because now all models operate on the c_model system as opposed to the old v_model and w_model system. saves on memory, though I can't see why they don't just add in a c_model of a broken bottle when you crit.
TF 2 2007: Looks like a 2017 game
TF 2 2017: Looks like a 2007 game
Noice 👌
I mean the comment , not the change 😌
I can see why it's for free now
@@bwpanda344 it has always been free, it wasnt just really free in the Orange Box, but it came as a gift
@@razielette2159 oh ! Thanks for info mate , i heard that it wasn't for free before the pyro trailer although I don't know much this game's history 🤷
@@razielette2159 That isn't true, it became F2P in 2011. Please do some research before telling others
Nah. The only actual difference is on the weapons, you're all brainwashed by the game industry's "darker/more shading=better graphics. The only difference is lighting and gleam.
3:26 As somebody whos fairly new to the game I remember seeing that you can get ammo from dropped weapons in one of the games loading tips or wherever that is and got confused as it didn't work
Yeah valve forgot to update the tips ever since they first made this stupid change in 2015. And since you’re new to the game, I would recommend playing on these 2 things first before playing on public servers which are “training” and “developer commentary” with captions turned on in the options
@@heavenandhello6629
I mean all things considered, dropping an ammo pack makes a bit more sense than getting ammo for weapons that are very much not a rocket launcher from a rocket launcher
That said, I do wish it wasn't just straight up the fucking medium ammo pack, that's always been a bit goofy [and can sometimes kinda lie to Engineers] even if it does work at being noticeable, but I feel like there's gotta be something that checks the boxes of making sense as a universal ammo pick-up that is noticeable and can be expected to be carried by the mercs, like an ammo _pouch_ or somethin', same basic idea, but it's not a whole-ass box
On the subject of hints, another example of hints not being updated is that Sandman-related ones still mention the ol' stun mechanic
Still hate that got Thwacked entirely, could've at least kept it for Moonshots, because as it currently is the Sandman gets entirely outclassed by the Wrap Assassin, a god damn cardboard tube and a bauble
@@WhimsicottFanatic if you are looking for realism TF2 isn't your game
they removed that? I have been collecting these scraps for 7 years now for nothing!!!!
@@marcowulliampopirers2216 this wasn''t realism this was valve changing how tf2 works you can't pick up an item that gets erased
Play the 360 version, its never been updated.
Its like a time machine.
I find very few games
but it seems like a slideshow
It has better graphics but much worse gameplay
Lol realy?
Thats what he used
The reason they did this is because in the source game engine, there can only be 2048 entities ( objects, props, hats, lights, etc ) so valve removed unnecessary entities and animations due to the fact so many people were wearing the fancy new shiny hats they released, and you go on a 32 player multiplayer server where everyone has a hat, you can reach that limit and possibly even more than the limit too!
Cool
Source Spaguetti.
Same happened to CSGO.
thats actually kinda small
@@blacky8060 well, source is from 2004 age. so...
Fuck TF2 hats, what a waste
Don’t worry guys, they brought back the broken bottle.
And the screams, but better!
Lol nice
i just went on a killing spree as bottleknight in rottenburg then my light went out
@@stupit467 what scream
@@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257 when you fall you Scream, first it wasn't the original cast then they were removed and now they fit
Saddest one for me is the heavy's minigun not being shown anymore. Makes me really nostalgic whenever I see it
Unfortunately, only the stock and Natasha had separate models for the first person, other weapons like Tomislav and Brass Beast did not have models for the first person
so you couldn't fully see their barrel when spinning
@@Narniy_myou mean Sasha and Natasha
1:25 they really had to change my favorite rock
Yes, now I too, shall change
Bruh just shut up like u dont need to comment come on BROOO😂💀
@@brandthemanlee no
@@brandthemanlee r/woooosh
@@dontlookatmyvideoREE yes
The fact that the grenade launcher doesn't rotate during reload really bothers me.
I'm bothered by the revolver drum not spinning and the minigun barrel not being visible when firing
@@xyzzy-dv6te
Bruh just increase your viewmodel_fov
@@cow4025 how much
@@frenchspy9271
Idk, i got it at 110 but i dont think many people would find it enjoyable lol
Understandable.
I knew I wasn't going insane when the bottle didn't break anymore
Morgan Freeman I thought I was insane when that happened lol
The bottle not breaking anymore for optimization sounds really fucking ridiculous. The bottle becoming unbreakable helps with performance? What the fuck was going on in that bottle, storm calculations?
Morgan Freeman maybe removed when they did the console releases and it needed to be kiddy friendly. Likely merged development branches so they weren't different for all the versions and the bottle breaking was lost. also explains the animations in the medic gun no longer working, consoles probably needed it out for optimisation.
You look pretty insane in that pic tho Morgan. Big fan btw.
Skeleton The BlackTopHat They removed it because apparently new players thought it did more damage broken
I love how the video slowly changes from being normal to being like a murder mystery in tone as we discover things may not have become all that we’d thought…
So basically everything got depressed
Yip
War.. changes people... dun dun dun..
Just like in real life :D
Just like our world, makes it more realistic.
even toaster pcs and potatoes
Tf2 then: this game has good lights!
Tf2 now: "the shadowrealm"
im memes nah bruh it's only on the maps crowbcat depicted. The lighting is actually fine on the hundreds of other maps in the game. It's just the 5 original maps that are a bit screws do to game updates
Team Fortress 2 : Combat Evolved
Anniversary Edition
Well..... for example the scouts weapon its brighter
its good map design to make things darker, it makes the enemies pop out far more, this has actually been an important factor in the game. if you look at the characters they all have a very small white outline to make them stand out from the background
@@KicksPregnantWomen nah dude they just downgraded it the lights did nothing man
I can’t wrap my head around the fact the old weapons look better.
in exchange for hats
Nice pfp
On point. 🖕
yeah when I play the game the weapons look better but when they’re compared it’s like wtf
Entire game was looking better
I love how 1:27 looks like the paint has been worn down over the years. Probably not an intentional design choice but sort of funny.
That and everything else in this video never happened for tf2 on this game bundle pack called “The Orange Box” for Xbox 360 since it’s the same exact thing as what the pc version used to be like in 2007 due to it never getting updated for 16 years unlike the pc version. And if you don’t have a 360, it can also be played backwards compatibly on the original Xbox One, Xbox One S, and Xbox Series X.
@@heavenandhello6629you can play tf2 on Xbox one?!
@@heavenandhello6629what the fuck are you talking about
The guns look like they are made of chocolate now.
It is lol looks like i can chew on it
Coach would love that
@@derpypixel4951 *Heavy*
“Wait it is all cake and chocolate”
“Not always has been”
(Pulls out chocolate cake)
Imagine can taste guns
i knew there was something weird about modern scout.
his eyeballs stand out alot more and it terrifies me.
Yeah, I know, right?
Miss Jasper that lighting effect only occurs on the loadout screen.
Miss Jasper he had a heavy dose of sugar or some drug that made him hyper af
he had too much bonk
He has fucked up cheeks.
I like the music it feels like we’re looking at the evidence for some grand company conspiracy
The first song was called “Right Behind You”
The 2nd song was called “3 Days to Live”
The 3rd song was called “Stink Lines”
Valve’s conspiracy
All conspiracy videos need this music from now on
Imagine this game being remade today with all the new possibilities and features they could add. To bad we will never see anything like that.
@@GarfieldEnjoyer1878 True but I mean like a true successor made with a new game engine.
@@mastershifu8151 team fortress: source 2
Eh, I dunno. Some of what makes the game interesting and unique is the Source spaghetti it's running on. Trimping probably isn't something you get in a modern game engine unless you specifically try to code it in.
@@scyfrix it's kind of like melee, the meta's developed so much over the past 20 years, that at this point, we'd just have the game stay the same instead of being altered. i feel like something similar would happen with tf2 in source 2, backstabbing i feel would be changed completely, and as a spy main, that's just not my style
No. Just no. I love the extent people will go to excuse valve
At least I now know that breaking the Demo's bottle, spinnig barells/rounds, sappers falling on the groung and grunting noises were real and not a fragment of my imagination
It and the fabled 6 pill grenade launcher.
Grunting is still there, just random and sounds more like the voices of the classes.
Guy Incognito that's exactly how I felt about the Demo bottle because I KNOW I remember it breaking in the past. I thought I was crazy
Mandela effect
Overwatch completed more in a year.
i can’t believe he time traveled to get this footage
@@ryanmomtahan4786 EYYYY
@@ryanmomtahan4786 can you still get it on the xbox live arcade?
Take a look how fake battlefield 1 look now, camparing to premiere date
There are tf2 cd roms
Better yet, he planned this video 10 years in advance
It's amazing how the graphics got worse, and even more amazing that it's orange box on console vs PC lmao.
The only time where the console version of a game looks better than it's pc counterpart
@@energeticyellow1637 nah. i still have the orange box for pc and tf2 looked this good on pc as well. I suspected that the game looked worse years later, but couldn't quite put my finger on it. Now I know for sure, they downgraded it. So disappointing.
@@Viruz32 oh yeah I know. It used to look really good on PC too but I think around 2015 was when everything started to downgrade when they added those god awful weapon skins.
@@energeticyellow1637 ah yes those darn weapon skin csgo have
Not the guy wearing 5000 dollar worth of hat and 10 billion particle effect on his head
@@D00000T if valve were ever up to the task which I highly doubt, i'd love if they could port the game to source 2 and possibly make it 64 bit. that would increase performance by a fuck ton.
1:49 is definitely one of the better changes
@@mr.101.8 in the 2007 version of spy's reload, spy's gun covered a large amount of important screen space which made it hard to actually see what you wanted to be shooting
"spy no longer hits himself in the face while reloading"
-valve patchnote
And the last one too
@@merucrypoison296I disagree, removing the scream upon taking fall damage was good because the scream didn’t actually sound like the mercenaries. Also making ammo boxes instead of picking up dropped weapons for ammo is both more obvious and makes more sense and also allows you to pick up dropped weapons
@@sambuxton931that is exactly what he is saying.
*What a time to be alive.*
Incredible
can I have a *B O N E L E S S P I Z Z A*?
Y
YEAH BUT IF A PIZZA HAVE BONE ON IT IS BONELESS
Noobis man i think 2007 Was better than now
So like real life, everything began to deteriorate.
So like as things get old they get forgotten like how valve has been treating this game
i think all of this got patched
im fairly certain that if if i drop something it doesnt disappear from existence
Cereal hero 0900 I don't think that the bullet from the sniper coming out from the right place and stuff actually landing on the ground instead of just not existing and many other things are unnecessary some people like myself like good graphics they could at least make it an option in the menu
@Cereal hero 0900 so much things wrong with what you just typed.
2:53 Scout went from a quirky guy to a meth addict
the fuck you mean quirky
@@theadrenalin2016 like, fast piece of shit running around places
lmao
Lol
@@theadrenalin2016 flirty
2:41 those water particles would kill FPS back in the day
That's because the water effect was realistically animated.
So instead of optimizing the game they said “Eh fuck it let’s just remove the particles I’m too lazy to optimize that shit”
@@CrawLBoss it's not about optimization, refraction in any game is resource intensive
SPY SAPPED MY GRAPHICS!
Artemy Strelov lol realistic
Spy’s sappin’ my GPU
I was gonna like but...
nice
S P A H S A P P I N M A H
G R A P I C S
SPY'S SAPPING MY CPU!
SPY'S SAPPING MY RAM!
*boom*
1:26 best detail in aging of tf2
So useless
Mf really changed my favorite rock smh 😔
@ScOrPiOn Games I think he means the paint faded away as TF2 gets older
;)
@ScOrPiOn سكوربيون ignore him. americanization makes him think that anything foreign is equal to terrorism
They just turned off some of the lights :)
And made the bottles out of stronger glass
so we lag less
Omg hii
And animations like in revolver and medicks secondary (and to cower that made it smoked)
I'd rather be playing tf2 in 2007
Scout wasnt lying about the darkness is coming
1:00 the crescendo after the decal disappeared made me laugh
The decal look stupid tbh
Like why call a giant brick building a shed of all thing
@@metaford3746 In TF2 bottles are stronger melee weapons than knives, so a giant shed wouldn't hurt
@@xyzzy-dv6te you mean the bottle that when only crit deal 195
And a knife shove up ur back deal 4k of dmg
@@metaford3746 Knife is stronger only from the back, and in a fair melee fight a good opponent won't turn his back to you.
I played this game in 2007 and all the bugs that the game had made the knives even more overpowered. For example you could stab a player in the back when you were not even attacking him from behind!!!!!
Valve: "I finally made it.... A shit ton of hats are in the game!"
Player:"What did it cost"
Valve:"Half of the polycount of every player model."
sounds dumb
*turn UP your graphics then*
If you choose better graphics then play the 2007 version of tf2 which is on this game bundle pack called “The Orange Box” for Xbox 360. If you choose hats then play the pc version that everyone knows which is gonna die from the bot crisis. And new players will never know about community servers either
I remember some years ago when people with demomans would take their bottles out, smash it against the wall a couple of times and then furiously going after you. Great memories.
Demories
People still do that huh. Well at least I do
@@shevrett2658 The bottle doesn't break anymore
@@moddedtom5808 but it does
@@moddedtom5808 do you know anything yes the bottle breaks again
Just on random crits i suppose
1:15 It took 10 years for that medkit to spawn... dear god.
Ummm…no, it took 1 year because the health and ammo packs in the intel room hallway and spiral were added in the Goldrush update in 2008. It was the very first major update of tf2, and it was what gave us the payload map Goldrush and a whole bunch of other medic achievements.
@@heavenandhello6629 Ummm...no, it was a joke
@@heavenandhello6629i found you wtf
@@nickplj12 Hi
@@nickplj12 found you aswell....
2007 Spy: Yo dawg, can I get a backstab?
Valve: Only a spoonful.
2007 Spy: *pulls out comically large knife *
Makes no sense
@@SuperDuperSeb you don’t get the joke?
*CRITICAL*
*HIT!*
You mean knifeful?
"i said spoonful not stabful"
2:51 after 9 years of depression scout started doing cocaine
That's sad.
Bruh the shadow on his face makes him look like he’s on drugs
That might be canon *somehow*
.
After 9 years of bright, scout finally got into shadows
2:50
It’s more realistic because now he has the 1000 yard stare from being on the front line so much
I miss 2007 Face scout...
But that's the only improvement, the rest is downgraded.
@@pyramid6782 LOL! RLY?
@@sameerhasan8101 yeah you haven't seen the video?
@@pyramid6782 that kind of talk is why Dutch says you have lost your faith
2007 has a much more cartoony look and i miss it
AGREEEEED
Agree
The reason they got rid of cel shaded-esque style is either because they were trying to make the game more modern like and also trying to optimize the game for more cosmetics.
It's obvious they downgraded for a performance boost, just a shame they didn't integrate this into the settings.
Thomas Berry yeah I agree. An option in advanced settings would have been a great middle ground for people with good computers and people with bad ones.
Damsen all the new updates added more garbage for PCs to handle, with only a few people at Valve who still work on it, it might’ve became unoptimized (is that even a word?). The graphical downgrade could’ve became a response to this, but didn’t fix the issue entirely.
Disoptimised may be more accurate ( unoptimised would be for sth never optimised in the first place) and if it doesn't exist id be glad to have coined the term. :)
downgraded for a performance boost in 2017?
this game was designed for potato pcs in 2007, a potato pc in 2017 would dominate this title at max settings in the desired resolution
bonus
I remember I used to stand there in awe at the shininess of the weapons back in 2007. When I played it now I used to think to myself “Man, I could have sworn these looked better back in the day” BUT THEY ACTUALLY DID! I wasn’t wrong lmao! Why did they change them? They looked so much better in the past!
apparently for optimization but i dont really understand why since the game isnt hard to run
@@bombytetoo it isn’t hard to run because of optimisation
@@bombytetoo Apparently*
@@bombytetoo don't*
@@bombytetoo isn't*
2007: high graphics 60fps
2019; low graphics 30fps
2030: pixels 15 fps
And I'm from the past
@@thenotwaluigi And i'm from the present.
Oh wait.
@@gabriel4191 you've created a time paradox, you must understand the future better!!
60 fps is an understatement.. you can probalby run the game at 300 fps on settings that would cause modern tf2 to go down to 40 fps, depending on the map and cosmetics ingame
The game works worse than in 2007
Tried playing recently and thought it just looked way better to younger me at the time. This makes more sense.
Spy: They downgraded most of our looks
Soldier: Dear God...
Spy: There’s more
Soldier: *No....*
If you want to play tf2 with the 2007 graphics then play tf2 on this game called “The Orange Box” for Xbox 360 or PS3
@@ryanmomtahan4786 there is also a mod for tf2 called TF2 classic, it has old 2007-2009 vibes too but it has scrambling teams option which is in my opinion bad because I think in old TF2 version the same thing happening like people often were pressing that option because it's unbalanced teams or someone is mad because he losing.
Tf2 classic is just a mod. It’s not the OFFICIAL 2007 version of tf2 that was created by valve 14 years ago. I only want to play a 2007 version of tf2 that was made by the company who made tf2. Not something that was made by a person that doesn’t know that you can just play the 2007 version on the Orange Box for Xbox 360
@@ryanmomtahan4786 the xbox360 version was updated and isnt the classic 2007 version i believe the least updated version is on ps3
@@ryanmomtahan4786 You apparently if came back to reply to it.
0:20 The pyro head still triangle
yes
@@Oeamix no
@@superswazian9931 yes
@@superswazian9931 yes
Tringle xdd
*_Bottle used to break_*
Edit: Yes I know it breaks again, stop replying
You're making assumptions... They never gave their opinion. You're just butthurt
AtomicGamerzUk ummm.... okay??
Bora Boyacı
But WHY would they change it? Why downgrade a piece of the game for no reason?
it's not a joke. the bottle did used to break. look it up noob
Bora Boyacı they put the breakable bottle onto the other melee for the demoman "The Scottish Handshake"
Now that its 64 bit, can we have these effects back?
This!
Plus Mac support is now over, which is why all weapons look like this.
They can barely even release the heavy update so why bother asking for VALVe to bring the effects and weapon shading back?
So apparently "updated localization files" is actually code word for "made random shit darker"
Scout got more darker
Until Raytracing came around, all shadows in games were 'fake'
That's not localisation! Localisation is when they make the levels tighter.
@@Asdf-ig8mo we know
@@Artician it's a joke.
Tf2 2007:we have metal guns
Tf2 now: why do we we have plastic guns?
Tf2 2007 - Tf2 2017
It's like replacing real guns with Nerf guns.
@@Nuuk_Nuke_Nook "They look shiny" You know, like... metal?
Generic person that is generic idk about that
If you want to play tf2 with metal guns then play tf2 on this collection of games called “The Orange Box” for Xbox 360
I like the glossier 2007 models way more.
i like ps1 graphics i hate the future
@@corlfranco9371 youre pretending like something being glossy and something being low res are one and the same. oh no, he has an artistic preference! better use a sarcastic comment to show him opinions arent allowed
@@jynxed66six54 first world problems my friend
@@jynxed66six54 Pretty sure he was joking, mate.
@@pikachu896 sounds more like sarcasm than a joke to me
I can live with a lot of the changes since the game is still fairly playable (yes I know there’s still the bot problem) but the one thing that really bothers me is the lighting changes just make every class look like they constantly have a flashlight underneath their face 😢
Well, i guess its better than having a dark Heavy in a corner and not knowing which team he is on. All in exchange for visibility, i guess.
They became serious depressed war veterans over the years.
What's the bot problem?
The bot problem
Sounds like old news too me
Leaked Valve Team Chat:
-Alright boys new update. Find as many details as you can, then remove them.
and add the shit box crate with community made content!!!!
i wish you could still dislike comments
@@WingedTophat I mean you still can, but it doesn't seem to affect the number of likes.
@@T4B_M3RC its basically hitting a button that does nothing
@@WingedTophat It's like the report button on tf2, it's a decoration.
I assume models were simplified to accommodate weapon skins, which I'm not a fan of. Though I'm glad they removed the grunting from fall damage as the grunting didn't match with the actual characters voices.
Gaby I'm talking about the removal of some animations.
Not just the weapon skins. I believe that they got rid of a lot of the animations in an attempt to better optimise the game, considering that cosmetics and unusuals (particle effects) likely have a significant impact on performance, and those are additional visuals that the engine has to render.
The game was a pretty unoptimized piece of shit in the first place anyways. There's a popular joke that even the most powerful rig couldn't run TF2 at max settings because the game was just so poorly optimized. A lot of this was was probably done to lower the strain on systems.
My mistake, had no idea.
gododoof when I played the 2007 version, I was very confused when I first fell down and heard the down pithed voice of scout and spy.
"Its Evolving, Just Backwards"
Ok
Haha pewdiepie meme funi
degradation
Devolving
Lmao
This is crazy since I own both the 2007 Xbox 360 orange box tf2 as well as the pc version and I have not seen these differences (until now)
I wish they allow us to toggle "Better animations and effects" in the Advanced Options, so we can choose whether or not we want said details on our own.
Wasnt that the point of pc gaming? Adjust which details you want your way not fat cat companies deciding how the game will run and play like those dirty console peasants
@@el9b exactly, This is one of the core reasons to play on a pc
@logan siebe Wat. Its a PC game, what do you expect him to talk about
Hyper
Nobody:
Pc gamers: hahaha fuck those console peasants! I’m so superior amirite?
@@el9b Yeah but then you ll have another 10 or 20 Gb of models of which you wouldn t be using all
1:27 is an improvement, they cleaned the mud off the wall.
the mud? lol
you can literally see it still too lol
Shows that time have passed, interesting detail imo
@@hgeorge7357 wow nice interpretation
@@matthewcheung8960 only interpretation??
The revolver cylinder doesn't spin anymore.
"DEAR GOD"
"There's more..."
Aaaand the reload puts bullets where bullets are. Great.
Everything in this video never happened for tf2 on this game bundle pack called “The Orange Box” for Xbox 360. And it’s the same exact thing as what the pc version used to be like in 2007
@King Congratulations, you know the other word for "bullets"!
@King squares
@King exactly
@King its youtube not a forum no one cares about necroing
A lot of people say they worsened the graphics for optimization. However, I'd say that, most of, if not, ALL weapons look worse due to an *oversight*!
They screwed up the weapon materials, such as drastically increasing the rim light boost (the ugly grey shine you see on the scattergun at 0:38) , and replaced most weapon lightwarps with a different, more smoothed out gradient (like on the shotgun at 2:41). They also updated most Phong masks (a texture that tells which parts of a model are reflective) to have a more "uniform" intensity applied everywhere, instead of showing up only on tiny scratches or paint strokes, leading to, yet again, a more greyish shine on the model.
They can make the current weapons look drastically better than they used to, but they simply choose not to. In fact, they have quadruple the texture resolution as the original models, but they also keep the same, high polycount regardless of whether you're seeing them in the third or first person. Plus, the rigging is screwed up, which explains why the syringe gun doesn't spin.
Everything in this video never happened for tf2 on this game bundle pack called “The Orange Box” for Xbox 360 since it’s the 2007 version of the game that never got updated for 15 years unlike the pc version. It’s the same exact thing as what the pc version used to be like in 2007. You need to buy an Xbox Live Gold membership in order to play it if you don’t have one. And if you don’t have an Xbox 360, you can also play it backwards compatibly on both the original Xbox One, Xbox One S and the Xbox Series X
I think this in a nutshell would be
2007: shining. Now: Matte
Most of the time the weapons look the same if not better
same with everything
@@CountCalcium that lighting though...
@@CountCalcium no
DEEP LORE
imagine removing a physics element from a source game... oof
they removed the physics from the weapons because their purpose changed from ammo to being pickups
CSGO
Also because they added the ability to pick up weapons from the ground
At least Half Life franchise is alright.
that's because of the alteration of how guns work in TF2.
They originally acted as ammo, however they can now be picked up and enemies drop ammo packs upon death.
Valve: This is a downgrade 0:10
Soldier: Dear god
Valve: There's more
Soldier: [MUTED]
The [MUTED] part is relatable
*_Voice communication is not available for this account._*
*Text communication is not available for this account.*
I wonder if this was done so the model takes up less space on screen to improve visibility?
Could also be to make room for the new weapons
@@meris8486 VALVᴱ already made it, its called Minimal hud.
The song fits so good it feels like Valve changed things secretly from us
Look how they massacred my boy
Awesome comment
Yeah tf2 is waaay better now
LEAVE GUN
TAKE CANNOLI
Perfect quote. Also this song fits perfectly
I typed the same thing, looked at comment section, deleted my comment. You had high ground this time
2007: RTX On
Now: RTX Off
Dang it my joke 😪
@@BrandonMontejo305 ha ha
Also tf2 now
Man i sure love not getting frame rate drop just from looking at 1guy with 10 unusual on his head
@@BrandonMontejo305 Lolllll
What? No! The game now has Bloom effects and water reflections!
2:55 scout aged like 10 years lmao
The game IS like 13 years old
He is got charged with battery
@@linus5597 turning 14 this year, but in the actual timeline it’s all around the same years
@@MrMozzie on Xbox scout hasn’t done drugs yet, why I play as a scout main on Xbox.
Wow after 14 years he aged 10, that’s so old
Also they did was add shadows, and make a way better face
btw, demo's bottle breaks again and medics gun spins again
It nowadays only spins in first person. It no longer spins in 3rd person unfortunately.
@@heavenandhello6629
youre only really going to be looking at it in your own viewmodel, anyway
unless youre doing closeup shots in a replay for your epic gameplay videos there is no reason for it to move
@@bebobo1 Well I’m someone that cares about graphics.
@@heavenandhello6629 graphics that you notice for exactly 1 minute, say "that's neat" and then you go back to not looking at it for the rest of your life
2:51 Before and after Vietnam
*not just the man, but the woman, and children*
@@LyTran-oq2of childrens* xD
@@acaribouintheattic8345 *and childrens*
Ly Tran Master Skywalker there are too many of them, what are we going to do?
@@fckgooogle1000x **turn on light saber**
2:51
**look at TF2 Now**
You can tell Scout has seen some weird shit over the years
Jonah Aqui heh
he saw the female class mods XD
He took shadows
He kept drinking those illegal energy drinks
It was 10 years Scout is now a big Boston boy.
They had to downgrade it because many PC's can't handle 2007 graphical details etc. in 2017.
xXSilentAgent47Xx the code is garbage, and all the updates over the years finished it off. A 2007 overkill PC wouldn't run it now.
xXSilentAgent47Xx LOW SETTINGS
when people dont take a joke*
If you have exactly a 2007 gaming PC, you would know that Low Settings is shit in 2017.
xXSilentAgent47Xx
lolwhat.
So PC's 5 gens later can't handle the stuff? Ok I want the thing you're on.
Omg I logged back in the other day and I thought to myself “this game didnt age very well” but now Im realizing all the initial gloss and charm is all gone
Somehow between 2007 and Now, Randy Pitchford got his hands on TF2.
True shit.
Tyrodin woah there
*wild rein appears* :)
Tyrodin tf are you doing here mate
HAH
lol !
i think they removed so much detail when the game became f2p so that people with slow pc's could have a better experience. but that's just my guess
These changes have gradually happened over the years. Plus if they did that, it would make no sense - you would think a free to play game would be unoptimized compared to a paid game where people pay money. If Valve hadn’t done their BS with all the hats they’d be better off just bringing back the original release of the game after the bunny hop patch.
these changes at least to the weapons happened in 2014 not 2012
But why is the butterfly knife so small now?
Back then you could run the game with a Pentium and it would be smooth just like other Source engine games. Now i still get some lag spikes trying to render that banana head double unusuals floating above his head.
@@awllypollyas8292 because a balisong isnt as large as a goddamn machete
2007: Thicc Knife
Now: Little Knife
Ah just like my d-
@@ElChefPanda same
@@ElChefPanda same
this really says a lot about society
@@ElChefPanda So your PP got smaller year by year since 2007? Interesting.
Man 2007 had rtx on 😭
Everything in this video never happened for tf2 on this game bundle pack called “The Orange Box” for Xbox 360 since it’s the same exact thing as what the pc version used to be like in 2007 due to it never getting updated for 16 years unlike the pc version. And if you don’t have a 360, it can also be played backwards compatibly on the original Xbox One, Xbox One S, and Xbox Series X.
"Don't turn me into an oversimplified art style!"
Oh god
2 seconds later "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
@@monkeman4627 13 years later
People are exaggerating a little
@@IAm-zo1bo indeed
I'm happy to see that they brought the length of spies butterfly knife down to the 3" legal standard of New York State.
lmao
Sept butterfly knives are illegal no mater what in our great state of NY.
"IT'S IRREGAR TO HERVE A BETTERFLER KNIERF IN NY"
-Governer Cuomo
wohw Ih'm yootoob faymuhs!
i honestly didn't notice the difference until now, holy shit
Alan Tremblay i
And this is exactly why you shouldn't care.
They sacrificed shit we couldn't even tell was different for better framerate. They did good.
Alan Tremblay I want the 2007 version to come back but without the glitching and bugs that riddled it!
I reported the video. The rest of you should do the same.
These are just minor, insignificant details for a game that's had swaths of updates and years of support.
Way to scrape the bottom, Crowb.
+Mjolnirs if you reported it you're a fucking idiot
It was very polite of you to travel back in time to record this
He didn’t travel back in time, he just recorded footage of tf2 on xbox 360. The xbox 360 version is still 2007 tf2 since it never got updated for 18 years unlike the pc version.
Why am I watching a video of someone turning lights off
A Dead Channel Why am I replying to a Stolen comment?
Jr Briz who the fuck doesn't read replies to a comment only me? Well fuck!
Ikr
Why the fuck am i replying to the replies and the replies of the stealing comments anyway?
Whoever turned the lights off on the pc version of tf2 forgot to turn the lights off for tf2 on this game bundle pack called “The Orange Box” for Xbox 360
T-Pain: "TURN ALL THE LIGHTS ON!"
Valve: "No fuck you, turn them off."
No, no, get those lights off!
*Off!*
Flexados TURN OFF THE LIGHTS
Trump says: "TURN THE LIGHTS OFF"
wow bravo way to bring politic into this
My friends have been telling me hats ruined TF2 for years, and now I finally understand.
@@ryanmomtahan4786 man
@@ryanmomtahan4786 we fucking get it
I’m spamming because I’m trying to repopulate the servers. Chill your tits!
@@ryanmomtahan4786 nobody cares dude
And some other people DO! You never know
Thank you for including the OST songs, it irritates me when people don't show them.
TF2 2017: Drops Ammo Box so it makes more sense
TF2 2007: *Gets Shotgun Shells from Rocket Launcher*
oh come on its just a game theres no logic
@@theminusel5863 r/wooosh
Z!RE WOOOSH is your mom
The MinuseL okay lol
The MinuseL no u
The lighting on the weapons was so much better back then, wow.
Nothing in this video ever happened for tf2 on this game bundle pack called “The Orange Box” for Xbox 360. And it’s also the 2007 version of the game
@@ryanmomtahan4786 nobody plays that version you fucking idiot
@@scoundrel8440 what are you talking about?
@@johndoe35859 means nobody wants to play the orange box, me included.
@@scoundrel8440 but he wasn’t saying that, he was just saying that Valve never bothered to update console TF2, so it still looks virtually identical today on console from when it was released
I'd kill for that 2007 Minigun first person view.
Also, the broken bottle... :(
Richard Watson I think that there is command to turn on that lighting
But yeah I miss that broken bottle too ;_;
Tip: Download the animation remakes from Gamebanana, they are awesome.
I got one word for you my friend:
*MODS*
Don't forget to break your bottle every time you respawn since it crits more often if it's broken.
They removed the broken bottle because players though it would do more damage (me totally not included)
Fun fact the iron curtain still uses the old model of the minigun so it’s last item to remain from past tf2
our pc's obviously can't handle what the 360 could
StReef r/ihavereddit
@HCII Don't we all?
Too many Reddit degenerates acting Like utter cocks
@@setukas But, seriously, I've been thinking...
I install the Source Film Maker for the first time last night, and, it still support the 2009 Team Fortress 2. And I was shocked, very shocked. Like I was on year 2007 again... You know what I mean? I was playing Heavy and Medics, and everything and it was still on past Team Fortress 2, haha... (Medic's syringe gun is super fast than now, wow!)
Annnd, I don't know why you guys acting like Splooshy is not knowing anything?
I mean, what? I don't know what's the problem of he just said, I'm serious. And not joking around.
The following 360 version is what 'supposed' to be how we play Team Fortress 2 in 2007.
We were not having a good computer in 2007, but we have highly better computer now, but now we have to play Team Fortress 2 in shitty graphic than 2007, because of tonsa stupid update such as Unnecessary hats&cosmetic, or the guns that don't actually need for the game, (I'm just happy to carried default gun setting.)
Jungle Inferno update, and more maps, or Meat your Match update - which is the straight reason how TF2 become even crappy than how TF2 meant to get old. And some of the contents that I can't explan it all.
What's up with the Team Fortress 2 nowdays, honestly?
TF2s are cool back then.
It really became shitty, nothing but pros are take over the server or match, eventually. And I'm not very happy about that, I'll rather just play Half-Life over and over again instead of being playing nothing but body exploding bullshit and unknown mann's are fighting each other in weird fortress and wasteland or UFO that nobody can't tell when the rounds are even end and they just eventually complain about when will this rounds are gonna over.
TF2 itself was 'mindlessly' amazing, I remember playing Team Fortress 2 all day all night when I was kid, even when I passed a bed time. I was just simply stunning at.
unless NOW, it became an whole joke in 2019 and they used to make Jojo reference joke or expiration date ytp memes, either rocket jump market gardening pro mad movie that doesn't seems very different between Counter-Strike 1.6 mad moive - that I don't want to see anymore of them. Or them costume setting artwork, especially.
Also, the weapon skins are kinda unnecessary.
It just makes game's capacity high enough and makes it to director must change TF2 graphic to low no matter what. I hate how Valve and you guys turning each other like woosh or think this is the best solution, Valve would not listen if I'm say anything about TF2 in customer service and you guys too, but I can't honestly say that I will not playing TF2
anymore, I will definitely gonna play it soon no matter how TF2 treat me like nothing but try hard money charging bitch. That's what I hate about this whole situation. You just can't escape from all this bullshit. I mean "I", can't. I hope you guys are having better day today than me. Well... I'm just.... Not. Okay?
Well, some of the people are already playing XBOX 360 version of TF2 nowdays in their own force, and I'm very glad to hear that.
Yes because everyone has a laptop from 2012 still. (Unfortunately that was me for awhile by Ron Swanson'd it for a shiny new rig).
Me who plays in the Worst graphics Possible: *I can't See any Difference*
Why
For some reason the 2007 version runs more faster than the 2020 one..... I don't know why
@@genericusername2908 because 2007 version doesn't have new hats and unusual effects that require lots of computing power.
@@luciusrex8604 that's make sense
@@IAm-zo1bo you are dumb or something? he has a bad pc
Valve be like: Yo let me delete this weapon_animations folder right here on TF2 were going to save 5mb 👌
To have some more free space for hats, it's simple...
@@demogaming8895 no it was to make room for hats
I like how the only "improvement" is the sniper reloading animation and Spy's butterfly knife size
Basically: TF2 2007 was more cosmetically appealing than the current TF2
Peeple
They made the bottle breakable again
Horay
e
youtube is broken crit against surface or enemy
Matt Poogerman no
Skeet i broke it on a spys head
Skeet too late
I still remember when you could pick up guns for ammo lmao
Wow yeah thats a throwback
Thats still a recent change, I remember when players didnt spycheck
@@Alfredo-oh8xb i remember when the sandman was fucking useful
go away Vriska Serket
@@AnrhoDeFryeld that's a real recent change