You're thinking of piss pour port, it just sort of comes out of the bottle in a narrow stream, sometimes spraying a little at first, sometimes with with a smaller stream that trails off to the side.
"I get the feeling that the developers just didn't wanna celebrate Sonic." Ugh....don't remind me of what they did to him on consoles, the same day the GBA port came out...
Tjoeb123 it’s pretty bad that the best thing that year from Sonic was a racing game that while fun was way too complex when cartoon racing games are suppose to be very accessible
Just wanna point out a thing about Pac-Man on the 2600. It's not a great port but it was designed to be played on a 70s/80s CRT TV, and the flickering actually isn't really apparent there due to phosphor persistence (stuff put onto a CRT screen sticks around for a little while), it makes the ghosts look kind of transparent. A lot of older games do cool things with their visuals that only work on a CRT across RF or composite cables and you don't see it on a modern TV or under emulation (unless your emulator has filter support and you can then emulate phosphor persistence and colour bleeding)
Gunrun I remeber the first time I say that version as a kid. I had no idea it was related to the arcade game lol I was too young to know any better at the time
+Gunrun Of course is the flickering apparent on a CRT TV. I agree that the port is playable and by far not as bad as everybody says today, but the visuals were really bad, even for it's time and the flickering WAS bad. Space Invaders showed quite well, how so many "sprites" (I know the 2600 didn't have any) could be handled without flickering. Not talking about the absurd color palette.
The flicker is still very apparent on CRTs plus look at what the extra memory does for Ms. Pac Man. Atari went cheap and a lot of people complained back then.
At the time, people loved this port. I remember me and my family playing it for hours. And everyone I knew that had an Atari had this game and didn't mind it. No one expected exact arcade ports back then. It's only got a bad rep now due to the trendy Pac-Man Atari hate wagon of recent years.
+neoasura I wouldn't completely agree to that either. Yes the game is playable and you can have fun with it. No doubt, but when it came out, everybody knew that Atari had done a pretty bad job and people WERE disappointed. E.g. Space Invaders was also by far not 100% Arcade perfect, but nobody complained as the looks was well done and it played great, same for Asteroids, Battlezone or Centipede , while the outstanding Berzerk was as close as a port could get on the 2600, same with Frogger. Yeah the 2600 seemed to not have the capability for perfect ports, but with PacMan it was obvious that it could have been way better if they had at least tried. Doesn't mean it's unplayable crap, just means it could have been a lot better. Just look at Mrs. Pac-Man, Pac-Man jr or the homebrew Pac-Man 4K, which is as Arcade perfect as you can get on the 2600 with a 4k module, or the even more superior homebrew Pac-Man 8k, although of course on a 8k cartridge. Atari could have produced a much better port if they wanted to, but what does one expect from a company that produces more Pac-Man cartridges than consoles had been sold. It as a weak, although playable port and everyone knew that, even back in 1982. Doesn't mean what they released can not be played and had fun with. I agree, that the bad rep it has is partially undeserved. As a game it works, because the gameplay itself is still more or less intact, but as port it is abysmal and could have been WAY better (see Pac-Man 4k or Ms Pac-Man).
@@CarloNassar ...of course that's a joke. The GBA was far more powerful than the Genesis in every way...but the blast processing thing still makes for a great joke.
@@StormsparkPegasus Well, that wasn't helpful. I am already aware that it's a joke so I'm not that dumb to not understand but jokes like this also blend with the comments from people that actually blame the GBA for ports like Sonic Genesis so it's really not much of a joke.
Game sack, was there from the days of when I was in high school, to the days of having a fresh upload after a night out in the bars in college and now right after coming out of work. Holy shit! I'm glad game sack has been around this long. :)
ARKOVZ game sack and game grumps have always been there for me on cold lonely nights where im sick or just want to lay in bed under the covers. And they both make me appreciate my video game collection haha. Love these guys.
Don't forget original Gameboy games as well. Many of them that needed more buttons that just A and B used the select button, same as NES games that needed more. Gameboy was basically meant to be a mobile NES (same buttons as a NES) so it makes sense.
GBA always felt like a "let's cash on nostalgia and poor ports" machine. The system was capable of full 3D graphics so the fact that Sonic and Earthworm Jim run so badly on it is proof that the devs were just lazy.
The problem with ports on GBA is that when the publisher want to made those for the GBA, none of the original developers came back for the project. For example Mortal Kombat Advance was port by one team: Virtucraft but the Super NES and Sega Genesis versions of Ultimate MK3 were handled by many developers: Sculptor's Software, Acclaim, Arena, Avalanche Software, and Williams Entertainment with Midway constantly directing the ports too but the GBA version lack that kind of quality team up because Virtucraft made the port by themselves and with no direction or support from Midway. They were simply told to just port the game with no regards to quality. Beat the game and you don't see Ed Boon's name anywhere on the credits like you would the console ports, not even on the Special Thanks portion where his name usually appeared.
There were a lot of great GBA games, including ports. The Shining Force port was phenomenal, as were Doom, the NES and SNES Mario games, and the Capcom Disney games. I don't know of any system without bad games or ports.
^ I'd like to try it on real hardware because the resolution seems too limited as with most GBA games. Also the sound is not that good but still good by GBA standards.
Nerman Talakic the sonic 1 port actually wasn't a port it was remade from the ground up due to the fact that Sega somehow lost the source code for the game
That health and safety warning came at the end of the GBA's lifespan, when the DS was new and fresh. I know this because I had Pokemon Red Mystery Dungeon and every time I played it this warning would pop up.
Wasn't the NES version of Shinobi an unlicensed game? I read in 'Console Wars' about Nintendo suing Tengen because of all the bootleg games they were bringing out, but one thing I've never really understood is Sega's take on all this. Wouldn't they have wanted to sue Tengen as well for converting their arcade titles without permission to the system of their (at the time) most bitter rival?
here's the thing. Tengen was actually a division of Atari at that time, which in turn had been purchased by Namco after Warner Bros. sold it off, since it wasn't profitable at all. Namco got the license for Shinobi from Sega, and since Sega itself really didnt want any of its games to have official releases on the NES (especially since they had a competing console at the time), Tengen finished it and put it out as an unlicensed title. one interesting to note is the fact that Tengen actually _did_ make licensed games at their earliest points of existence, but after they were able to successfully bypass Nintendo's security lockout on the NES by literally getting the code for it from the US Copyright Office, they became exclusively an unlicensed developer/publisher.
I've tried to get into Atari 2600 multiple times, but I just can't. Maybe it's a generational thing, but in my opinion, at-home gaming didn't legitimately start until the NES/Famicom. Graphics before the NES rely too much on your imagination-- if I wanted that, I'd read a book.
On the flip side, the port of Earthworm Jim for the Original Game boy is really impressive imo. It's a good representation with a great job converting the soundtrack.
The gba versions of Earthworm Jim and Sonic 1 were fucking terrible. If they can get Doom 1 and 2 to work perfectly on a GBA why couldn't they get 2 Genesis games working just as good
LOL I freaking love the skits after each episode! You guys REALLY should make a collection episode of ALL the clips you've ever done after each episode! That would be dope!
I love the endings to their videos. These goofball comedic plays are hilarious. Plus the dry humor and perfectly timed interjections are hilarious. Keep up the great work guys.
Joe, Dave, if you can stomach more piss poor ports you should dig the euro computers such as the Amstrad CPC, Atari ST or Amiga, tons of crappy arcade ports await you there! Hundred of piss poor ports videos in perspective! :D
Doom on the 3DO - Amazing soundtrack, horrible everything else. Mortal Kombat Advance - Horrible graphics, broken gameplay and extreme difficulty. Supreme Commander on the 360 - Bad graphics, bad controls.
just like the PS2, XBOX 360 and Gamecube at the time, every console got a storm of ports blown at them, sometimes shit, sometimes not. the GBA itself has a bunch of hidden gems among the rubbish, you just have to be willing to sift through said rubbish.
Son of Tiamat that is shockingly inaccurate. All the castlevania games, both golden suns, astroboy from treasure, mega man Zero, all the Mario ports, gunstar super heroes, ninja 5-0, advance wars, Mario & luigi and dozens of other excellent games are on the GBA.
Son of Tiamat gameboy advance line was great and has a lot to offer. It just wasn't really good for SNES/Mega Drive ports.... (even though I find Final Fantasy GBA ports really good)
It's one thing when the source code is missing and you really try your best like Crash Bandicoot - it's another when it somehow looks worse than the original PS2 game and even worse than the inferior X Box port.
Ports for the original Shinobi were sadly hard to come by. I really treasure the Sega Master System port because you take what you can get, much like the NES port of the TMNT arcade game. 2 of my favorites in the arcades back then.
Great ending skit! One of my favorites so far. Poor, poor Dave......By the way every damn time I see Greendog in the wild I say the name in my head the way you say it, Joe. Damn Greendog.....
In case you need more piss poor ports for a part 3: Comix Zone (GBA) Wipeout (Saturn) Micro Machines (CD-i) Golden Axe (PC Engine CD) X-Men vs Street Fighter (PlayStation)
Pacman: warp tunnels may have a simple explanation: the arcade version plays in portrait-mode, but the VCS/2600 only supports landscape-mode and given the limited time available for orientation-compensation the porter only turned the sprites 90°. (if he had even less time, then he might have had to make due with telling the players to put the TV on its side and have them play it in the original orientation.)
Strider for NES. Although my 'NES Fanboy' loves this version, it's nowhere near the arcade version or even Genesis version. Completely different game with crazy hit detection.
I keep posting these video's every time they make a new one, I am sad that they do not get like 20 million views (I want more GameSack) Well at least I know good art when I see it! Thank you for making these video's and making my rotten day a bit better!!! (usually my days are all good but today has been rough lol)
2006 wAS a bad year for sonic indeed. who ever did the sonic genesis port for gba needs thrown off a roof. the sonic advance games were a lot of fun, how did that one get gimped?
Oh dear, I've actually played that SNES Avengers game, and it was so bad... But HOLY F*** The music on the Genesis version is pretty darn awesome! (Well of course it is, it's Hitoshi Sakimoto after all...)
Even Sonic Mega Collection Plus (which I bought for only a couple bucks before I found out about the flaws) suffered a bit where it didn't on XBOX and the original GameCube version. The PS2 was just not nice to Sonic even when it comes to older, better games.
Nana-Kyoto all of the PS2 sonic games had the worst ports compared to Gamecube and Xbox 1 (the 2001 console not the 2013 xbox one) featuring lower framerates and resolutions also doesn't have good graphics like the other consoles
Captain America and the Avengers in the Arcade was one of my favorite arcade experiences as a Kid. A fun beat 'em up with lots detail and action. That SNES port broke my heart and tried so hard to like it. UGh, got back flash backs just hearing that music too. Glad you guys felt the same way. haha.
Sonic on GBA actually lead Stealth (who also ported Knuckles intro Sonic 1, and later half of the team behind the mobile ports of Sonic 1 and 2) to make his own proof of concept port of the first zone of the game to the GBA.
the gamecube version of the Mega Man Anniversary collection, where A Shoots and B is Jump is incredibly awkward and the emulation there isn't exactly top-notch. SNES Street Fighter Alpha 2 is also pretty awful.
Oh goodness, yes, GCN _Mega Man Anniversary Collection_. I still managed to beat every game with those switched buttons, but I'll never understand why they did it like that (and didn't add an option to change the layout). I can't imagine it was playtested all that much. At the very least, it has the Inafune episode of _Icons_. It reminds me of how humble he was before bought into his own hype.
The "superior" PlayStation 2 version isn't exactly flaw free either (despite the defense hardcore MM fans have for it), if TV Tropes is correct, that had control delays. If it was one thing I never experienced with the GC version, they were control delays (as I was never bothered by the infamous button swap, which came from the fact that I never owned an NES let alone any MM NES games, though I did play one at a cousins house briefly).
ClexYoshi Those were the best examples you could come up with? There's a lot worse ports out there. At least those were still playable. The fact that the SNES could even run Alpha was an accomplishment.
ClexYoshi you should talk about ninja gaiden trilogy or another example on SNES instead of insult the (probably) biggest 2d technical achievement on the system (if you don't count smw2 that used the Super FX chip 2)
Oh my god man, I loved the episode and all the research and the hard work and great usage of your hard earn collection (and I really appreciated) but that ending had me laughing in tears, best ending skit in a long while! It was amazing! I love you guys and I'm totally watching it again in the "Game Sack Skits" channel!!
How about Perfect Ports for an episode? For example, Tony Hawk Pro Skater 1 and 2 for the Sega Dreamcast (as compared to the originals on the PlayStation 1).
Hey, I have the same flat-tube TOSHIBA in the BG of your intro. Someone was throwing it out in my building and I thought it'd be perfect for my retro console stuff.
That ending for end skit... Made me have 1,87 seconds of internalized panic as I realized this could turn real dark real fast. Instead it got real fun real fast.
23:02 Actually, Alien Syndrome for the NES was made by Sanritsu, a Japanese game developer (they made the port of Fantasy Zone for the Game Gear), Tengen just port an unlicensed version for the USA market (this port was officially release on the Famicom with the aprobation of Nintendo themselve, but never came to America in a legal way). Also, Tengen version cuts things like the cinematic opening...but it still a good port after all.
@gamesack do you think you (Joe and Dave) could do an episode on all of the different NEO GEO ports to all of the various consoles and systems, and compare and contrast the sutle (or not so subtle differences) between what ports did right, and what they did wrong, or what they could have done better(given what you know about the various system capabilities etc.). Additionally, comenting on weather or not the ports could have been made closer to the original if the developers / programmers put more efort and memory into the ports. Thanks for all of the great content! I really love looking back at how things really were with a fresh pair of eyes! Joe, Dave... You guys are awesome!!!!!!!!
Ms Pacman on the 2600 is a pretty great port - and shows there's no real reason for the Pacman to be so poor other than they rushed it out the door on the cheap.
I lost my original copy, but after my grandmother passed away last year, my mom found a sealed copy of it in a closet with a bunch of Christmas gifts... she must have bought it for us, but we already had it. I don't know if I should open it or not (I could probably buy a cheap used copy, this one has sentimental value).
From what I was told, Sonic Genesis was basically Sonic 1 on the Advance engine, and the two are wholely incompatible, resulting in the game becoming frightened and confused whenever it has to load any terrain in.
That game barely functions on PS3. My issue was always the very inconsistent framerate and how jarring it could get. Sony consoles have always had issues with stable framerates. The PS3 is the platform to NEVER play Bayonetta on.
2:20 Wait, isn't it weird that Sega published a game on Nintendo? It would be like Sony publishing something on Nintendo nowadays but back then even worse with the then upcoming bit wars. Can somebody throw some light how this even happened?
I was actually about to recommend this myself. I saw the original version on the Amiga, and holy crap, the difference between the two are like night and day.
Apart from smaller characters, less colors and crappier sound, the game itself is equally crappy on both platforms. Seriously, the game looks so monotonous and mediocre I don't know how anybody could enjoy it.
Yellowblanka The Amiga version at least kept you to the left side of the screen which it was designed for. The Genesis version had you on both sides and the game really wasn't made for that so it made the whole game worse because of it. There are those who liked the Amiga version funny enough, but the Genesis version is heavily despised and for good reasons.
Sword of sodan was the first game I played on my new Amiga, i was gobsmacked how much better it looked and sounded than anything on my old c64. A mate of mine went out and bought an Amiga after seeing it. It really showed off the Amigas potential, although gameplaywise it was average and quite unfair in places (`beware of traps` followed by random death for example) but the bit where you fight the wizard with lightning flashing, thunder roaring and epic music playing really was a sight to behold at the time. I bought the megadrive version thinking it would be even better, dear god was I wrong, how on earth did they screw it up so badly? Awful graphics, dreadful sound and gameplay far worse than the by now quite old Amiga version. What I dont get is that the megadrive is technically on par with the Amiga and yet the port looked more like an ST game. Awful, awful port and a waste of my hard earned £60 at the time.
If using the Atari Racing Paddles, one controls horizontal, other controls vertical (like an Etch-a-Sketch) The Atari 7800 controller and Apple II compatible joysticks work with the Master System.
*GAMESACK I LOVE YOU HAVE MY BABIES* and also is you guys' beef with the Exasperated Gamer still ongoing? I love TH-cam drama. I have my popcorn ready.
MultiTarded Check out Exasperated Gamer on youtube. The guy is a copy and paste, sellout moron. Also, game sack skits is a channel you should check out.
Piss Poor Port. It's the worst wine I've ever tasted.
sounds like your Granny just loved getting fucked up...
Any port in a storm, huh?
You're thinking of piss pour port, it just sort of comes out of the bottle in a narrow stream, sometimes spraying a little at first, sometimes with with a smaller stream that trails off to the side.
Ozbrithian
Yeah, the worst pizza I've had too.
this comment still makes me laugh, just so you know.
That was the best Game Sack skit of all time at the end there.
That gun was bad ass!!!
I loved it too. The length actually made the ending funnier!
@@Jesse__H That's what she said!
"I get the feeling that the developers just didn't wanna celebrate Sonic."
Ugh....don't remind me of what they did to him on consoles, the same day the GBA port came out...
Tjoeb123 it’s pretty bad that the best thing that year from Sonic was a racing game that while fun was way too complex when cartoon racing games are suppose to be very accessible
*Laughs and cries in x7*
Just wanna point out a thing about Pac-Man on the 2600. It's not a great port but it was designed to be played on a 70s/80s CRT TV, and the flickering actually isn't really apparent there due to phosphor persistence (stuff put onto a CRT screen sticks around for a little while), it makes the ghosts look kind of transparent. A lot of older games do cool things with their visuals that only work on a CRT across RF or composite cables and you don't see it on a modern TV or under emulation (unless your emulator has filter support and you can then emulate phosphor persistence and colour bleeding)
Gunrun I remeber the first time I say that version as a kid. I had no idea it was related to the arcade game lol I was too young to know any better at the time
+Gunrun
Of course is the flickering apparent on a CRT TV. I agree that the port is playable and by far not as bad as everybody says today, but the visuals were really bad, even for it's time and the flickering WAS bad. Space Invaders showed quite well, how so many "sprites" (I know the 2600 didn't have any) could be handled without flickering. Not talking about the absurd color palette.
The flicker is still very apparent on CRTs plus look at what the extra memory does for Ms. Pac Man. Atari went cheap and a lot of people complained back then.
At the time, people loved this port. I remember me and my family playing it for hours. And everyone I knew that had an Atari had this game and didn't mind it. No one expected exact arcade ports back then. It's only got a bad rep now due to the trendy Pac-Man Atari hate wagon of recent years.
+neoasura
I wouldn't completely agree to that either. Yes the game is playable and you can have fun with it. No doubt, but when it came out, everybody knew that Atari had done a pretty bad job and people WERE disappointed. E.g. Space Invaders was also by far not 100% Arcade perfect, but nobody complained as the looks was well done and it played great, same for Asteroids, Battlezone or Centipede , while the outstanding Berzerk was as close as a port could get on the 2600, same with Frogger. Yeah the 2600 seemed to not have the capability for perfect ports, but with PacMan it was obvious that it could have been way better if they had at least tried. Doesn't mean it's unplayable crap, just means it could have been a lot better. Just look at Mrs. Pac-Man, Pac-Man jr or the homebrew Pac-Man 4K, which is as Arcade perfect as you can get on the 2600 with a 4k module, or the even more superior homebrew Pac-Man 8k, although of course on a 8k cartridge. Atari could have produced a much better port if they wanted to, but what does one expect from a company that produces more Pac-Man cartridges than consoles had been sold. It as a weak, although playable port and everyone knew that, even back in 1982. Doesn't mean what they released can not be played and had fun with. I agree, that the bad rep it has is partially undeserved. As a game it works, because the gameplay itself is still more or less intact, but as port it is abysmal and could have been WAY better (see Pac-Man 4k or Ms Pac-Man).
Sonic Genesis on GBA is proof that the system needed the blast processing.
You're joking, right? (6-12-2020)
@@CarloNassar ...of course that's a joke. The GBA was far more powerful than the Genesis in every way...but the blast processing thing still makes for a great joke.
@@StormsparkPegasus
Well, that wasn't helpful. I am already aware that it's a joke so I'm not that dumb to not understand but jokes like this also blend with the comments from people that actually blame the GBA for ports like Sonic Genesis so it's really not much of a joke.
Blast processing would have made it worse.
thenifell how would a faster CPU have made the GBA or the port worse?
Great sketch at the end. One of the best.
Doo doot do doot do doo…
Surprised you guys didn't show footage of the Fan version of Sonic 1 on the GBA. Basically firing shots at Sega for their laziness that year.
ChaosFusion100 They also didn’t mention the Sonic classic collection for the DS.
It’s basically what Sonic gba should’ve been.
I lost it when Dave picked Bubsy II and Greendog out of the box. Even after all the other trash that's pretty rough! Great episode guys.
That's one thing I really like about the Sega Saturn, the arcade ports are practically perfect unlike these ones.
Schools out loser
@McNinja200 Depends, saturn was equal to the S-TV, but better than the Model 1 (on paper), but worse than Model 2.
Game sack, was there from the days of when I was in high school, to the days of having a fresh upload after a night out in the bars in college and now right after coming out of work. Holy shit! I'm glad game sack has been around this long. :)
ARKOVZ game sack and game grumps have always been there for me on cold lonely nights where im sick or just want to lay in bed under the covers. And they both make me appreciate my video game collection haha. Love these guys.
Wait how long have they been here?
@@squallthegriever 2011
@@marakarthegreat thats not as long as i thought
Can't wait for your next video! "games that use the select button" :D
Toxic Crusaders on NES is the biggest offender of this.
Don't forget original Gameboy games as well. Many of them that needed more buttons that just A and B used the select button, same as NES games that needed more. Gameboy was basically meant to be a mobile NES (same buttons as a NES) so it makes sense.
Solar Jetman.
After Burner on NES, Batman.
kakashi101able I would love this
GBA always felt like a "let's cash on nostalgia and poor ports" machine. The system was capable of full 3D graphics so the fact that Sonic and Earthworm Jim run so badly on it is proof that the devs were just lazy.
The problem with ports on GBA is that when the publisher want to made those for the GBA, none of the original developers came back for the project. For example Mortal Kombat Advance was port by one team: Virtucraft but the Super NES and Sega Genesis versions of Ultimate MK3 were handled by many developers: Sculptor's Software, Acclaim, Arena, Avalanche Software, and Williams Entertainment with Midway constantly directing the ports too but the GBA version lack that kind of quality team up because Virtucraft made the port by themselves and with no direction or support from Midway. They were simply told to just port the game with no regards to quality. Beat the game and you don't see Ed Boon's name anywhere on the credits like you would the console ports, not even on the Special Thanks portion where his name usually appeared.
There were a lot of great GBA games, including ports. The Shining Force port was phenomenal, as were Doom, the NES and SNES Mario games, and the Capcom Disney games. I don't know of any system without bad games or ports.
Somebody did a faithful port of Sonic to prove that the GBA could handle it. /watch?v=zSDr4yV_UKE
^ I'd like to try it on real hardware because the resolution seems too limited as with most GBA games. Also the sound is not that good but still good by GBA standards.
Nerman Talakic the sonic 1 port actually wasn't a port it was remade from the ground up due to the fact that Sega somehow lost the source code for the game
That health and safety warning came at the end of the GBA's lifespan, when the DS was new and fresh. I know this because I had Pokemon Red Mystery Dungeon and every time I played it this warning would pop up.
And the Superman GBA game
@@mattcrowell5875 Okay, that was a late-era GBA game too, apparently. Thank you.
Wasn't the NES version of Shinobi an unlicensed game? I read in 'Console Wars' about Nintendo suing Tengen because of all the bootleg games they were bringing out, but one thing I've never really understood is Sega's take on all this. Wouldn't they have wanted to sue Tengen as well for converting their arcade titles without permission to the system of their (at the time) most bitter rival?
That's more or less exactly what they did
here's the thing. Tengen was actually a division of Atari at that time, which in turn had been purchased by Namco after Warner Bros. sold it off, since it wasn't profitable at all. Namco got the license for Shinobi from Sega, and since Sega itself really didnt want any of its games to have official releases on the NES (especially since they had a competing console at the time), Tengen finished it and put it out as an unlicensed title.
one interesting to note is the fact that Tengen actually _did_ make licensed games at their earliest points of existence, but after they were able to successfully bypass Nintendo's security lockout on the NES by literally getting the code for it from the US Copyright Office, they became exclusively an unlicensed developer/publisher.
And Sega made Tengen one of their first third party publishers on the Genesis/Mega Drive
Also, I am pretty sure Tengen just released the USA version. The game was actually made by Sunsoft.
I've tried to get into Atari 2600 multiple times, but I just can't. Maybe it's a generational thing, but in my opinion, at-home gaming didn't legitimately start until the NES/Famicom. Graphics before the NES rely too much on your imagination-- if I wanted that, I'd read a book.
On the flip side, the port of Earthworm Jim for the Original Game boy is really impressive imo. It's a good representation with a great job converting the soundtrack.
The gba versions of Earthworm Jim and Sonic 1 were fucking terrible. If they can get Doom 1 and 2 to work perfectly on a GBA why couldn't they get 2 Genesis games working just as good
LOL I freaking love the skits after each episode! You guys REALLY should make a collection episode of ALL the clips you've ever done after each episode! That would be dope!
I would love to see an episode dedicated to the GBA. Maybe an episode covering all game boys would be neat too.
I love the endings to their videos. These goofball comedic plays are hilarious. Plus the dry humor and perfectly timed interjections are hilarious. Keep up the great work guys.
Thnx Mr Gamesack for another great Episode - You guys lighten up my whole week...
Joe, Dave, if you can stomach more piss poor ports you should dig the euro computers such as the Amstrad CPC, Atari ST or Amiga, tons of crappy arcade ports await you there! Hundred of piss poor ports videos in perspective! :D
I love game sack. I appreciate you guys hard work week after week.
I...... am in awe of your post credit scene. That is the funniest ending I have ever seen on Game Sack. Keep up the great work, guys.
Doom on the 3DO - Amazing soundtrack, horrible everything else.
Mortal Kombat Advance - Horrible graphics, broken gameplay and extreme difficulty.
Supreme Commander on the 360 - Bad graphics, bad controls.
Seems like a lot of games on the Gameboy Advance were just plain shit. If it wasn't for Pokemon that thing probably wouldn't have sold that well.
just like the PS2, XBOX 360 and Gamecube at the time, every console got a storm of ports blown at them, sometimes shit, sometimes not.
the GBA itself has a bunch of hidden gems among the rubbish, you just have to be willing to sift through said rubbish.
Doom on the SNES - brave effort, but the system just wasn't up to it
Son of Tiamat that is shockingly inaccurate. All the castlevania games, both golden suns, astroboy from treasure, mega man Zero, all the Mario ports, gunstar super heroes, ninja 5-0, advance wars, Mario & luigi and dozens of other excellent games are on the GBA.
Son of Tiamat gameboy advance line was great and has a lot to offer. It just wasn't really good for SNES/Mega Drive ports.... (even though I find Final Fantasy GBA ports really good)
Scared the crap out of me at BLAST PROCESSING xD
Dude, you were in a Vilonious video, weren't you?
Piss poor ports : Silent Hill HD
Yeah, it's crazy what they did with that collection.
It's one thing when the source code is missing and you really try your best like Crash Bandicoot - it's another when it somehow looks worse than the original PS2 game and even worse than the inferior X Box port.
Ports for the original Shinobi were sadly hard to come by. I really treasure the Sega Master System port because you take what you can get, much like the NES port of the TMNT arcade game. 2 of my favorites in the arcades back then.
That ending segment was the best ever. Great episode guys.
You guys are truly the most underrated channel on TH-cam.
Keep going guys!
love your stuff!!
It's about time you opened the box I sent you guys. Thanks for recording it.
Great ending skit! One of my favorites so far. Poor, poor Dave......By the way every damn time I see Greendog in the wild I say the name in my head the way you say it, Joe. Damn Greendog.....
Ports that are better than the arcade next?
That would be pretty interesting.
Soul Blade
Most of the tekken games, especially in the PS1 era.
I love Shinobi's grody sausage finger as he tosses hundreds of shurikens per second.
And that ending, you two amazing goofballs.
In case you need more piss poor ports for a part 3:
Comix Zone (GBA)
Wipeout (Saturn)
Micro Machines (CD-i)
Golden Axe (PC Engine CD)
X-Men vs Street Fighter (PlayStation)
adultmoshifan87 they already did Golden Axe.
Wow that Endskit was honestly extreamly entertaining
"Hey Cap, want to play The Avengers on SNES?"
"NOOOOO!
Pacman: warp tunnels may have a simple explanation: the arcade version plays in portrait-mode, but the VCS/2600 only supports landscape-mode and given the limited time available for orientation-compensation the porter only turned the sprites 90°. (if he had even less time, then he might have had to make due with telling the players to put the TV on its side and have them play it in the original orientation.)
Strider for NES. Although my 'NES Fanboy' loves this version, it's nowhere near the arcade version or even Genesis version. Completely different game with crazy hit detection.
It isn't a port of the arcade game though, it's a separate game that's heavily based off the story from the manga.
Strider NES is one weird game that never get localized Famicom release in Japan.
Great episode guys!! Loved the end skit. One of the best skits yet.
"Name one better NES game than Shinobi. I'll wait."
- Exactly nobody, ever.
Color a Dinosaur
GoredonTheDestroyer Does Ninja Gaiden count? I loved that game... Borderline obsessed at the time
GoredonTheDestroyer
Where's Waldo
Mario 3
Super Pitfall
I just want you guys to know, that you are one of my favorite gaming channels!!!!
Always a good day when there is new gamesack
You lads are legends :D
I would love an episode where you compare NTSC-U games with NTSC-J and PAL versions.
another great video from you two.. not a piss poor video!
ash ketchum great video. GS is awesome!!!
I keep posting these video's every time they make a new one, I am sad that they do not get like 20 million views (I want more GameSack)
Well at least I know good art when I see it!
Thank you for making these video's and making my rotten day a bit better!!! (usually my days are all good but today has been rough lol)
2006 wAS a bad year for sonic indeed. who ever did the sonic genesis port for gba needs thrown off a roof. the sonic advance games were a lot of fun, how did that one get gimped?
Azure Nova's Video Game Music I can't confirm, but I've heard that Sonic 1 for GBA was actually built on the Advance game's engine.
I love when I forget its Game Sack sunday and I get surprised!
Jesus that ending skit. Dave sells the wig so well.
I'm still up after a night of drinking. The first video I watch on TH-cam is this! I love game sack!!!! Keep up the good work guys!!!
Oh dear, I've actually played that SNES Avengers game, and it was so bad...
But HOLY F*** The music on the Genesis version is pretty darn awesome! (Well of course it is, it's Hitoshi Sakimoto after all...)
I really like this channel, it reminds me of an actual TV show for some reason, it even has the recaps in the middle.
Sonic Heroes for PS2 is another example of a bad Sonic port. (but I actually love that game)
Even Sonic Mega Collection Plus (which I bought for only a couple bucks before I found out about the flaws) suffered a bit where it didn't on XBOX and the original GameCube version. The PS2 was just not nice to Sonic even when it comes to older, better games.
Nana-Kyoto all of the PS2 sonic games had the worst ports compared to Gamecube and Xbox 1 (the 2001 console not the 2013 xbox one) featuring lower framerates and resolutions also doesn't have good graphics like the other consoles
One of my favorite ending skits. Awesome!
I appreciate you guys so much......I can't even hardly watch anyone else unless it's y'all.....only one's who intrigue me anymore
Captain America and the Avengers in the Arcade was one of my favorite arcade experiences as a Kid. A fun beat 'em up with lots detail and action. That SNES port broke my heart and tried so hard to like it. UGh, got back flash backs just hearing that music too. Glad you guys felt the same way. haha.
go to sleep... mmm oh game sack new episode... bye bye Sunday morning
Im surprised you didnt mention the master system port of Double Dragon, thats my personal favourite version.
Love what your doing 👍
What about Mortal Kombat Advance, there's a reason Electronic Gaming Monthly gave the thing a zero out of ten.
Is it worse than the original MK on Gameboy.
Adam Phillip Yes, it's nearly unplayable.
mitu123Copper the port was so bad that mortal kombat co-creator Ed Boon stated he despised it and it was his least favorite port in the series.
Sonic on GBA actually lead Stealth (who also ported Knuckles intro Sonic 1, and later half of the team behind the mobile ports of Sonic 1 and 2) to make his own proof of concept port of the first zone of the game to the GBA.
Game Sack volume 2 blu ray is out of stock on Amazon. Uh-oh, I didn't pick it up yet. What do?
It will eventually be restocked. Sooner than later I hope. More need to be sent from the pressing plant.
hailthegoer777 why haven't I heard of this on blu ray!!!?? nice!
Good to hear. I'll check amazon weekly until it pops up. Thanks for letting me know!
"Hey I'm Sack. I'm not so Sack! And, we're, THE GAME SACKS!" Sorry for the bad joke truth is I love your videos.
I don't think that Shinobi for the NES counts, as it's unofficial. But most importantly, it's too shitty to be worth talking about twice.
This is seriously the best ending y'all have ever done, even better than the one with Trey and Cory. Y'all did it perfectly.
the gamecube version of the Mega Man Anniversary collection, where A Shoots and B is Jump is incredibly awkward and the emulation there isn't exactly top-notch.
SNES Street Fighter Alpha 2 is also pretty awful.
ClexYoshi Guess I'll look for the PS2 version instead :p
Oh goodness, yes, GCN _Mega Man Anniversary Collection_. I still managed to beat every game with those switched buttons, but I'll never understand why they did it like that (and didn't add an option to change the layout). I can't imagine it was playtested all that much.
At the very least, it has the Inafune episode of _Icons_. It reminds me of how humble he was before bought into his own hype.
The "superior" PlayStation 2 version isn't exactly flaw free either (despite the defense hardcore MM fans have for it), if TV Tropes is correct, that had control delays. If it was one thing I never experienced with the GC version, they were control delays (as I was never bothered by the infamous button swap, which came from the fact that I never owned an NES let alone any MM NES games, though I did play one at a cousins house briefly).
ClexYoshi Those were the best examples you could come up with? There's a lot worse ports out there. At least those were still playable. The fact that the SNES could even run Alpha was an accomplishment.
ClexYoshi you should talk about ninja gaiden trilogy or another example on SNES instead of insult the (probably) biggest 2d technical achievement on the system (if you don't count smw2 that used the Super FX chip 2)
the show gets better and better lads keep the goodness coming!
Haha, that ending skit had me rolling on the floor!
Oh my god man, I loved the episode and all the research and the hard work and great usage of your hard earn collection (and I really appreciated) but that ending had me laughing in tears, best ending skit in a long while! It was amazing! I love you guys and I'm totally watching it again in the "Game Sack Skits" channel!!
Game sack please do more of this and put doom for 3do cause oh my god how bad it is
And also put x-men vs street fighter on psx because it disappoints the hell out of me
How about Perfect Ports for an episode? For example, Tony Hawk Pro Skater 1 and 2 for the Sega Dreamcast (as compared to the originals on the PlayStation 1).
Game Sack is damn good, i'm surprised that you guys don't have more subs
Hey, I have the same flat-tube TOSHIBA in the BG of your intro. Someone was throwing it out in my building and I thought it'd be perfect for my retro console stuff.
My eyes hurt I've been staring at a screen all day it's time to go to sleep.
Wait a game sack video fuck now I have to watch it
Oobles same thought!!!
That ending for end skit... Made me have 1,87 seconds of internalized panic as I realized this could turn real dark real fast.
Instead it got real fun real fast.
please make a let's make a youtube show part 2!
Parody Pat & the Chasers
Soup or Nintendo? LJN defender & My Life in gaming too!
STALE MEME yeah that really was one of the best things they've ever done
the only game sack episode I've rewatched many times
Nothing they can do.
They HAVE to do another AVGN impersonation. Who cares if James didn't like it? It was hilarious, 100 percent spot on
23:02 Actually, Alien Syndrome for the NES was made by Sanritsu, a Japanese game developer (they made the port of Fantasy Zone for the Game Gear), Tengen just port an unlicensed version for the USA market (this port was officially release on the Famicom with the aprobation of Nintendo themselve, but never came to America in a legal way). Also, Tengen version cuts things like the cinematic opening...but it still a good port after all.
"Who wants to watch a game sack video at 3 in the morning?"
"OH BOY 3AM!"
MacalTHB Me! favorite channel
Great show! I have always wondered what systems did the best and worst Neo Geo ports and what the differences between them were. Thanks guys!!!!
@gamesack do you think you (Joe and Dave) could do an episode on all of the different NEO GEO ports to all of the various consoles and systems, and compare and contrast the sutle (or not so subtle differences) between what ports did right, and what they did wrong, or what they could have done better(given what you know about the various system capabilities etc.). Additionally, comenting on weather or not the ports could have been made closer to the original if the developers / programmers put more efort and memory into the ports. Thanks for all of the great content! I really love looking back at how things really were with a fresh pair of eyes! Joe, Dave... You guys are awesome!!!!!!!!
10:36 *B L A S T P R O C E S S I N G* *! !*
the ending skit was very funny, well done!
Hey joe can you tell us about shinobi again, oh wait nevermind.
Pablo D'Angelo I rmember that being a better game as a kid lol ahh memories haha
Ms Pacman on the 2600 is a pretty great port - and shows there's no real reason for the Pacman to be so poor other than they rushed it out the door on the cheap.
greendog!
I lost my original copy, but after my grandmother passed away last year, my mom found a sealed copy of it in a closet with a bunch of Christmas gifts... she must have bought it for us, but we already had it. I don't know if I should open it or not (I could probably buy a cheap used copy, this one has sentimental value).
From what I was told, Sonic Genesis was basically Sonic 1 on the Advance engine, and the two are wholely incompatible, resulting in the game becoming frightened and confused whenever it has to load any terrain in.
Was that a real gun at the end? It looked real
StopDropandLOL that's what I was thinking LOL
It's an airsoft, look at the text on the closeup.
I don't think Dave and Joe would be dumb enough to use a real gun as a prop.
Airsoft. Real guns don't have to say it is not a toy on the side. lol If you pause at 31:55 you can read the slide
well, if a real gun has no ammo then its just fine like a toy gun
I just thought of an infamously bad piss poor port for the modern era. Bayonetta on the PS3. Cover this in the next episode regarding shitty ports.
Bayonetta for PS3. Screen tearing and loading time.
Good lord, even Kamiya himself hates that port (then again, he also hated the Okami Wii port, which was FAR from broken in my experience).
That game barely functions on PS3. My issue was always the very inconsistent framerate and how jarring it could get. Sony consoles have always had issues with stable framerates. The PS3 is the platform to NEVER play Bayonetta on.
Should've been a new SONY IP. Sad.
2:20 Wait, isn't it weird that Sega published a game on Nintendo? It would be like Sony publishing something on Nintendo nowadays but back then even worse with the then upcoming bit wars. Can somebody throw some light how this even happened?
"Sword of Sodan" on the Sega Genesis is an abysmally bad port.
I was actually about to recommend this myself. I saw the original version on the Amiga, and holy crap, the difference between the two are like night and day.
Yeah, Sword of Sodan is one of the worst games out there for Genesis, shocked at how bad it was.
Apart from smaller characters, less colors and crappier sound, the game itself is equally crappy on both platforms. Seriously, the game looks so monotonous and mediocre I don't know how anybody could enjoy it.
Yellowblanka The Amiga version at least kept you to the left side of the screen which it was designed for. The Genesis version had you on both sides and the game really wasn't made for that so it made the whole game worse because of it. There are those who liked the Amiga version funny enough, but the Genesis version is heavily despised and for good reasons.
Sword of sodan was the first game I played on my new Amiga, i was gobsmacked how much better it looked and sounded than anything on my old c64. A mate of mine went out and bought an Amiga after seeing it. It really showed off the Amigas potential, although gameplaywise it was average and quite unfair in places (`beware of traps` followed by random death for example) but the bit where you fight the wizard with lightning flashing, thunder roaring and epic music playing really was a sight to behold at the time. I bought the megadrive version thinking it would be even better, dear god was I wrong, how on earth did they screw it up so badly? Awful graphics, dreadful sound and gameplay far worse than the by now quite old Amiga version. What I dont get is that the megadrive is technically on par with the Amiga and yet the port looked more like an ST game. Awful, awful port and a waste of my hard earned £60 at the time.
If using the Atari Racing Paddles, one controls horizontal, other controls vertical (like an Etch-a-Sketch)
The Atari 7800 controller and Apple II compatible joysticks work with the Master System.
I always stay up late Saturday night just in case Game Sack shows up. Night made.
Your life seems pretty interesting.
Shaney McBaby I'll make it easier to remember, it's every other Saturday evening.
Shaney McBaby I'm always happy to see a new episode
Awesome episode as usual guys, I really liked the sketch in this episode, it was pretty funny xD
I love Game Sack, my favourite show on youtube!!! :D :D :D
Joe, your face when you saw the box was one of the greatest things I have ever seen
*GAMESACK I LOVE YOU HAVE MY BABIES* and also is you guys' beef with the Exasperated Gamer still ongoing? I love TH-cam drama. I have my popcorn ready.
MultiTarded Check out Exasperated Gamer on youtube. The guy is a copy and paste, sellout moron. Also, game sack skits is a channel you should check out.
that blast processing bit was so epic. nice scene at the end too, very funny
Anyone else get the notification, and loudly proclaim, "The Sack is Back Baby!," to the dismay of their grandmothers?..
Haakon Anderson every time!!!
"The sack is baby"??? Errrrr
WRFM PaRaDoX hahaha I was pretty drunk last night ...
Ah ok, haha. I love me some drunken Game Sack"
Great episode, and I really enjoyed the ending segment!
BTW "Piss-Poor Ports" - in Russian will be "Пиздец какие убогие порты" (Peezdets kakeeye ubogeeye porty) You are welcome! :)