GREATEST CHUG RIFF of all time: S.O.D. March of the SOD & Scott Ian Anthrax guitar gear tone secret.
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- What creates the greatest guitar CHUG of all? Is it just the gear, or something else? Speak English Or Die album from S.O.D. redefined the chug forever.
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The sound of my youth. Staying up with friends watching Headbanger’s Ball. Good times
100%. I heard this and Battery in '86 and it changed my playing forever.
I was in the Functional Idiots in the mid 80's and you got it just about right. NYHC was a very
closed clique at the time...Biohazard, Cromags...played with most of the hardcore bands back in the day. CBs was the coolest place in the world until you walked in...then you realized it was the grossest dive you've ever seen. It was an amazing era. The difference was it was dangerous. SOD was fucking ridiculously dangerous. Couldn't exist today. Same with my band back in day. Rude, crude, tacky and vulgar. Great times.
Fun fact-Pi Alpha Nu is about the fraternity I was in at that time. Billy was best friends with the singer from my band and he came to New Paltz NY to hang and play. He was very impressed by the toga party he attended...as well he should be. 250 kegs, dozens of moshing frat members....legendary. His later band MOD covered my bands song "He's Dead, Jim"
Dude! Awesome info man. Very cool.
Haha. Interesting about pi alpha nu. I remember the song about the fat Chick in the crowd 🤔 that used to crack us friends up. Crazy times. Don’t know how we lived through them.
grande!
@ Matt Flemming wow, I remember my last year in what you guys would call high school back in 1988 in Ireland. A friend's cousin was over from New York and he let us listen to "In Pursuit Of Toast". We were all big fans of east coast Thrash, Crossover and Punk. We listened to everything we could get our hands on; Overkill, Nuclear Assault, Anthrax, SOD, MOD, Crumbsuckers, Ludichrist, Blessed Death but we'd never heard of you guys. Needless to say, we thought you guys killed it. A couple years later I got my hands on He's Dead Jim on purple vinyl. I still have it and play it occassionally.
@@tonytendencies4698 Thank you, Tony. We were nowhere near any of those other bands...just an obnoxious hardcore band out of upstate NY. It's awesome that you guys got to hear us. It really was an amazing time. We got letters from Russia and Germany from people. Really fkn cool.
This was back in the time New York was dangerous, CB's was a shithole and we raged. 'Caligula would grin.'
This was the first time I’ve heard this riff and it remains one of my favourite riffs even a year later, right up there with Panteras Far Beyond Driven hits. Absolute poetry.
I still play that album all the time! Scott is the Tony Iommi of the 80s in terms of riff writing imo. I think the biggest thing killing metal right now is all the guitar players writing the drum parts with computers and making the kick lock to their right hand. It's so bad, drummers are trying to learn how to sound like a computer!
Surprisingly, Charlie wrote most of the riffs, he's the hero
0:05 "...The greatest intro riff from any band in metal ever..." Thank you, the truth always win at the end !!!😁
All of Scott Ian's best riffs are on the S.O.D. album!
Charlie benantte came up with the basics of the riff , according to Scott they would just play the riff when warming up ,and it went from there.
Intro for Among the Living is as heavy as any SOD riff.
Charlie the drummer ALSO wrote some of those incredible riffs!!!!! He is a BEAST 💯💯💯
For what was pretty much a goofing-around side project this LP had a massive impact, I think you can hear it's influence on the slower, chugging bits of 'Among the living'. It was also the first time I remember seeing the crossed NYHC logo and hearing the word 'mosh' - the chugging bits in the songs were listed on the lyric sheet as the 'mosh part'. The LP title and the lyrics were dubious then as now but you're right about them just doing it as a big F-you to wind people up. Billy Milano always came across as a massive bonehead dick, which I guess makes him the ideal frontman for the project.
Perfectly put.
Awesome video, awesome song, awesome band, and love the editorializing at the end. Spot on...lived through that stuff, and your comments struck a chord. Keep it up with great music and great commentary....!!!!
Billy sounds like the east coast version of Paul Baloff! Anyway, I was checking out your channel to see if you had any info to replicate Scott's S.O.D. guitar tone. But It's funny how so many people in metal today are trying to revisit the sounds of the good old days of 79-85. All of my favorite young bands today sound like they are from that era weather, its thrash, speed, power, black, death, or doom - or any combination of those. Cheers mate.
I agreed with your final rant so i subscribed!
First riff I learned to play way back in the day.🤘🤘
A not so pc classic. Glad to see you back. \m/\m/
as always great videos!! soooo true
Love the raw crunch guitar sound!
Bro, you have a really relaxing voice. You should make a podcast where you tell stories, or just talk about life in general, and people listen to it to help them sleep.
I remember MTV used to use S.O.D. for commercials on headbangers ball.
Yep that's exactly what added to the oomph of the public opinion re how heavy the riff is.
@CIRCLE OF TONE. I remember they used Prong too. I was really into prong back then. I don't know what happened to cause me to stop.
Carcass had some killer chuggin intro's too :) but I agree thats pretty dense riff :)
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Great video brother, and I agree with you on the social woes plaguing society right now. I grew up on Long Island New York and watch the hardcore scene spring up out of nowhere seemingly. It was definitely a fun time to be alive. 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
I was about to go out and play Crosby stills and yawn to tourists here in Salem. Then I seen you playing my first guitar riff ever!!
I agree with all of this and I'm going to fight my instincts and go out now. I swear
Glad I happened upon your channel man, looks like I've got some catching up to do...
Welcome to the Circle!
I may agree with that statement. Well done.
And guess who I'm seeing tomorrow night in Glasgow.... The Mighty Anthrax. It's all about the timing!
That's cool. I know a lot of fans are gutted because they canceled a lot of shows in Europe.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE got to try and see who we can now as you never know when you'll see them again.
Great tone, almost spot on
my favorite intro riff from any band in metal ever is Cartilage - "Why Do I Watch the Dawn"
Great videos. Subscribed.
💯one of the first riffs I learned back in the day. I was learning bass at that time but had to steal our guitarist’s rig just to play that riff!
Your smile when playing that chromatic section says it all
Amen. The march crushes and your tone is spot-on as well.
The only thing controversial here is your 1/4 step bend followed by a pull-off at the fifth fret. I'm refering to the second riff.
I was hunting that tone for long time…the closest result i had it with Ada MP-1 3tm through Marshall 9000 power amp into Mesa halfback loaded with C-90’s…it’s all about speakers man…good video as always 🤟
Just listened to this song again after... I don't know... 20 years?! Although the production sounds terribly dated this is still one of the most crushing riffs of all time.
Just make sure you don't listen to the version on TH-cam. The audio is trash.
Can you imagine how UTTERLY SHIT it would sound with a nice 2020s Andy Sneap production. No thanks.
modern metal production is trashhhhh especially the drums they sound awful
The Ashes of Civilization Owen. The Ashes, no coming back.
You speak of knowing authenticity and the fans know. I agree and I have to be honest I lived in Cali and grew up in the thrash scene. We were part of a movement! Since the Gojira is the only band to have tapped the hairs in the back of my neck! I’ve saw them live in SF at the Gilmore on Magma tour. I was genuinely blown away by the live tone and they’re EVH gear. Ever since I’ve wanted to trade my marshal half stack. Afterwords I researched interviews and they are pretty much line to amp. Until Magma and a pedal o ti stir is used. That impress the hell out of me! So old school thinking. Cut the BS and crank up the gain! Anyways if you read this message I’d love to se a Gojira segment from you! Thanks brother for keeping REAL metal alive.
Gojira secret is drums imo. Stellar drummer plus they go back to the 90's so it's litteraly old school haha.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE hell yeah brother. I think they are red pilled to. Just listen to the lyrics of the storm! Also another song about child trafficking(born for one thin) seen in the video. And the main riff to Sphinx reminds me the days when Slayer reign in blood and Master of puppets were out when you’d here a heavy riff but the more you listened the heavy it got! About the brother drummer your right. Check out I’m sphinx-how he keeps adding a longer and faster transition drum roll. What are your thought on they’re equipment and EVH AMPS specifically ? Thanks for the reply!
Thank you for bringing the knowledge of the division between hardcore/ punk and the metal scene. It happened here for years in Rochester NY with the skins and long hairs. We all loved the aggressive music, but for some reason...hair was the deciding factor...total bullshit. We all loved the same type of aggression in music, but it essentially came down to how you looked. And that usually ended up in both sides warring against each other for no fucking reason!
Yep it was nuts.
Pure caveman riff! Awesome
AKA Headbangers Ball Theme, One of them they had a few
Yep it's stuff like that that gives the riff more of a reputation.
Great riff. Great band. Now I wish I had some God Damn milk
A lot of younger folk don't realise how much Scott Ian and James Hetfield down picking / palm muted style has influenced metal. Not saying that they invented it but made it popular ✌✌
Dude amazing fucking video
Thanks man
SOD legendary album
I never leave comments, but I Love the Fake Business shirt! Tim Dillion is hilarious!
Love your channel too. Keep up the good work.
Tim is the man. Hard to believe he puts up with the emotional and financial thief that is Ben Avery.
That whole first SOD album is a riff masterpiece.
I was 15 when SOD came out .. that album changed my life... the song FREDDY KRUEGER also has a massive heavy legendary riff !!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hell of a time to be a teenager. So fun.
Got this album at 15 at the Montclair plaza, home of the original Hot Topic
I bet it's worth a bit now
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I dont think so as i should have said i had the CD version and this was 2005.
Many of my CDs and dvds got stolen
@@andybarker5687 ah hehe
March of the SOD. Nothing heavier.
Nasty tone.
The tone Scott had on the Live at Budokan recording made the riff sound so much heavier.
I agree. The live version is wayyy heavier
Well I didn''t want to be a a pirate when Running Wild was wild but I get what you are saying around 12:00 :D
You can get the same tone and aggression but recordings are so much clearer today and that's part of the magic. I heard a cleaned up remaster of stairway to heaven and it sounded like dogshit. But with all the background noise and unclear quality of the original all the guitars were back in tune and everything blended better. Same thing, imo.
Welcome to planet MFr is a pretty good introduction to White Zombie.
Charlie is incredible I wasn’t expecting him to steal the Pantera tribute shows he’s definitely got the chops.
Nice Tim Dillon shirt! I love S.O.D. I have the LP.
Hehe. I love that pig.
Oh hey, I have this gear. Yours was close but you need the TC Booster/Line Driver... and a SD JB
As a guitarist in different bands, for me it's all about playing a sound that YOU like und writing riffs that YOU like, then put in the hours to make it work together and something unique will come out that's you. If you default to prebuild blocks of stuff "that works", be it riffs and/or sounds, it will come out bland und usually you won't feel it when you perform. At least that's my experience.
I like at the gates under a serpent sun also
even got all of scott ian's pick scraping
Soldiers of Destruction, Stormtroopers of Death, Speak English or Die had loads of out there crazy names we came up with as kids for what the initials S.O.D meant. AND before anyone says it the guys / Anthrax were and are ultra cool, not hate based and didn't support anything racist or far right etc... From what I recall a lot of it was based on the UK 2000AD Comic stuff. Not an expert so my take on that may not be 100 % correct. Anthrax were and are great though and deserve higher recognition for their part on the scene than what they get overshadowed by Metallica and Megadeth. Well not Megadeth of course as Megadeth are and always will be no1 👌😂
Cant wait.
What does COT think of the EVH line of amps?
I don't think Eddie ever put out an amp that wasn't great. Esp for chugs.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I have the cliche 50w stealth
I feel like my rig is a Rock swiss army knife.
COT, Id like to recommend the album punish and destroy by Weekend Nachos
I don’t think enough people pick this one for their top 20, 50 or 100 lists. Maybe they don’t know it. Who knows? There’s no denying that this album had a huge influence on metal as a whole
It had influence at the time because it was the main music for headbangers ball on MTV.
march of the SOD? march of Godzilla more like it! Classic album! TC Booster + Marshall and minimalist recording = Scott's guitar tone on that ! Less is more
Just wanted to gloat that I have a 1979 JMP 2203 😁
Glad you rate them Owen! 🤘
And you're absolutely spot on the way you describe the cliques back in the day haha, good stuff!
Best ever. I used my clone on this video with a RAT pedal.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I just finished building a RAT clone for my guitar player!
is the g12-80 speaker like a celestion classic lead
I don't think the classic lead 80 sounds as good.
5150 block letter with a tube scream baby :)
Were you old enough to see the clash of the titans tour in 1990? I went to the Manchester concert and Birmingham , those were the best two thrash metal concerts I've ever witnessed .
At the time i could not afford it.
Yes i did ...Cleveland, Ohio!!!
Channel is turning into Circle of Moan recently. Love the talk about gear and the playing is always spot on (Amazing tone in this video especially), but don't need 2/3 of the video to be an "Old man yells at cloud" style rant about the classic "Music was better in my day" opinion 🤷🏻♂️
Kinda polite put down. Moan is an understatement. I'm like a disappointed dad. I'm blackened metal bot inward fake pig screaming at clouds.
Music was better in those days ... it sucks now partly because of your direct support, Michael.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Totally get it! Really enjoyed the videos over the years though.
@@HazeAnderson It really is, sorry for having an open and evolving taste to music and metal.
I quite like Circle of Moan, I watch primarily for the rants, so much modern music is soulless and corporate
Fuuuck yeah!!!!
M.M.D.A.: Make Metal Dangerous Again!
This is not one of the best riffs of all time, no...This is just a tribute!
Lol
It's interesting that Slayer & Metallica get so much credit for wearing punk shirts on stage when Scott Ian was literally playing in bands with people from the NYHC scene & Nuclear Assault and actively participating in the underground, yet Anthrax doesn't seem to get the same amount of respect or revelry from the underground even though their influence can be felt all over Crossover and NYHC. But I'm only 33 and wasn't there so what do I know! Anyway, love when you dig into the lore of the bands, it's what makes the old scenes so interesting imho and what the current crop of bands is missing.
i love anthrax but they dont respect joey belladona i feel bad for him
I’d say Sad But True is that song you describe
Legit riff
I would have to disagree. Respectfully of course 🤘
Didn't Morbid Angle have a very similar riff?
Nope, I just listened to the riff in question, and it's completely different.
Funny how the more modern the metal tone the less gain and vintage it gets. The only difference is where the low pass filter and eq sits. If you cut the bass at 100-140 hz and you got a modern tone just about imo. Yeah modern metal has gone too pedestrian haha
I dont know, I fist fight people and do copious drugs constantly but my riffs suck
i just did the heaviest chug ever yesterday in my video (but it was in E standard 😁) which is. a lot harder than you may think..
I am doing a video soon to try and out heavy standard tuned riffs.
Kudos for helping solve LAs homeless crisis! 👍🏻
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The Tim Dillon shirt!?
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Greatest guitar CHUG of all? Mortician wants to have a word with you.
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The only worthwhile thing he ever did.
IRVING!!!
So you are saying we are listening to the hype and with our eyes instead of our ears 🧐🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😉😉😉
Yep. Like when it was the MTV headbangers ball intro. Visually links them with being heavy. The riff and tone has to be there, but it's the rest of the puzzle that makes it legendary.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I knew a bunch of hardcore punk fans in a uni share house back in 99 who had the rap music channel on their TV constantly… on mute 🤫… because no one was listening 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
@@Xplora213 hehe
I thought Charlie benate wrote all the music in sod and anthrax
Yep he writes a hell of a lot for Anthrax.
last band that tried to push buttons was Whirr. they got cancelled and one band they were jokingly bashing, G.L.O.S.S., got pushed. now nobody cares about G.L.O.S.S. because ppl tend to forget about boring dime-a-dozen generic hxc punk bands.
Billy was literally Antifa at SoD shows, lots of talk of him beating up nazis.
EDIT: This is reference to anyone who misses the point of SoD, It's a satire.
Based of him to beat up nazis, calling Scott Ian a "dirty jew" and using an ethnic slur against jews, not so much
@@Snandra66 Yep but if he was racist to his core why would he join a band with Jews in it? There are levels to racism and in the late 70's it was hard to find white guys in NYC that didn't raise an eyebrow to entire blocks of stores etc not talking English. I personally think S. O.D. were dumb and were guilty of stereotype levels of "humor". It was messed up but that was nothing compared to what Mark Wahlberg and co were doing at the time.
@@Snandra66 oh wow, didn't know he was saying that shit. Is this from an interview?
@@sammadden5540 From what I understand he openly posted it on his facebook, should be an article on it if you just google it
@@CIRCLEOFTONE The edgy humor I don't have much problem with but when he makes statements like that publicly you start to wonder how much of a joke it actually is to him. And I mean it's not absolutely not unheard of for racists to have friends of the same ethnicities they're prejudiced against, they'll often find "one of the good ones" and use them as proof like "see? I'm not actually racist at all I have a friend who's (insert ethnic minority)."
it is great riff but dude its not the best in my opinion but opinions will differ due to personal likes , for example disposable hero's has a more intense opening , for me thats hella chug chug chug🤘
That's a classic riff but too fast for oomph of chug plus it did not have the MTV headbamgers ball intro etc to push it over the edge to the public. By the way you may like this th-cam.com/video/uSgTYwuzDB8/w-d-xo.html
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Milquetoast by Helmet for me, but to each their own.
And.... no. The greatest chug riff ever is Celtic Frost's Dethroned Emperor. You know this, so why am I having to draw attention to the obvious?
Good shout
Sorry but greatest chug ever is from Firestorm by Earth Crisis
It's a classic but didn't get the general public loving it from MTV Headbangers ball intro music etc. It's all about hype, not just the riff.
Nope