@@UToobSteaknah they were clueless. They thought the fuzz was (i kid you not) a horn section for guitar. The satisfaction hook by Rolling Stones was a scratch track that was supposed to be a horn section. It was advertised as a horn section for guitars initially 😅
@CIRCLEOFTONE I love a good fuzz, but calling it the horn section of guitar is hilarious. I used to be a trumpet player, so I'm well versed in horn sections. Fuzz ain't it. They were so goofy back in the day
One heavy chug influence from the mid to late eighties not to be forgotten is Tommy Victor from Prong.Started in the NYHC scene and I think without Prong,Pantera would still be a hairmetal band.
Yep good shout. That's why I mentioned Killing Joke = so important. Raven (the bassplayer from Killing Joke) actually played on Snap your Finger" era Prong.
I think prong and helmet were two most influential bands that started a style of playing guitar that later would become nu metal,it's all there the groove and the tones,they made things much heavier.
Love the fact that you mentioned Scott Ian as a chug king , he doesn’t get the credit & especially love Sweet !!! They were playing thrash metal, before thrash metal
The kid who lived across the street from my cousin and played guitar called it “cuffing”. It didn’t stick but I found it amusing and introduced a fundamental technique alongside my other friend who showed me what a power chord was. Thank you gentlemen.
This is exactly why I have subbed to this channel. Pure and excellent guitar content. No one does it quite like the Vanilla Sausage God. Also, 7:17...LMFAO
What's up with the channel and where is Owen? Will there be more videos soon? Thanks so much for all of your hard work to produce these. Always look forward to them. Hope all is well with you and your family Owen.
What a video!!! The progressive djeny drinking game episode was the funniest metal oriented videos I have ever seen. Might need to start circulating it amongst these gen z core kids.
As someone who was also a teen in the 80's, and being madly in to thrash and metal at the time, not only do I agree on so many points you've made, but you've also educated me on the origins, as well as where metal went in the years after. Love this.
Wow. 2 minutes and you already got my like for the Sepultura cover. You know I am from Brazil and nothing makes me more proud than hear them among the US legendary bands.
I'm 50 and grew up a bit in the Glam days and discovered Metallica in 1986 and of course the heavier the better and the "Chug" has not left my playing ever since!! This channel is awseome , Thank you so much for taking the time to make these videos sir!!
7:19 OW YEAH! Dude! Isn't like Annihilation Principle one crazy record? The guitar distortion is so insane it literally eats the rest of the record. Like you can barely hear the drums. And that btw is why I personally like drum samples with the real drums in extreme metal music. Because massive chug eats space and takes something really snappy to get through it :D
One thing that I would mention about chug history is that in an interview Ozzy or Geezer said that they used to listen to Led Zepoelin and smoke dope all day long. So when Tony Iommi came up with Paranoid to close the album, they said to him they were not going to play it because it was a ripp-off of "Communication Breakdown". He had to convince them.
Thank u for mentioning Blue Cheer. I absolutely love them. First album was insane. Especially later in their career, they got heavier and heavier. Check their Live In Rockpalast video. Theyre absolutely crushing everything. I think Andy Duck MacDonald was their best guitarist.
The chug and the heaviness have been there since at least the late 60's / early 70's with bands like Blue Cheer, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Sir Lord Baltimore, Iron Claw, etc. We call it proto metal now, and it naturally got heavier and darker over time until thrash metal came along in the early / mid 80's and kicked the doors wide open for heavy guitar sounds.
With the sweet I'd also include slade. The ill fated US slade tour had a young kiss in tow. Kiss completely nicked the looks and sound of the mighty slade and repackaged it for an American audience.
Its a nice coincidence because he recently messaged me his new music and I had just put my own vocals over my cover and I sounded like shit. I loved his vocals on his new stuff, asked him and he was down.
Thank you for having the balls to tell the truth about the blues. In the 1800s black people heard European 1.4.5. progression folk songs, took the guitar invented in Spain and the Austrian harmonica added their own flavor and they called it blues. How is it different when whites appreciated the blues, sped it up and cranked it up and made modern rock and roll?
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I´m a huge fan of black sabbath but when I Think about chugs Black sabbath never comes to mind, maybe because the tone is much more flubby and loose. for me chugs are more tighter like ride the lightning , sepultura like you said, death symbolic
The intro part on For Whom the Bell Tolls was the first time i remember being floorrd by a chug. I'd tewujd just that part and listen to it over and over. Wait Code Orange is NuMetal?
It is so that on average testicles grow by 2-10mm in diameter during a chug, forcing the comfort width of a stance to increase. Love me bacon, love me milk, love me chug.
Good call with the Sweet, Andy Scott had some serious chops and is often overlooked, great guitar player. Also love Killing Joke, might be my favorite band of all times.
KJ are absolutely one of my favourites. If I ever wanna feel like, I’ve never accomplished anything in my life, I just go to Jaz Coleman’s curriculum vitae on his Wikipedia page. I think it will make you feel the same way as well. I think it would make most people feel that way. That geezer just has endless energy and is exploding with ideas at all times. I love Geordie Walker’s guitar playing. He is one of the greatest atmospheric guitar players. Obviously he creates a different atmosphere, but I’ve put him up there with David Gilmour . The sheer number of chord changes he might play in a given song is astronomical.
I hit the bell icon for you because I'm annoyed I don't get pushed your videos. First for me. I typically sub without the bell. Great shit. I'm getting back into a major John Sykes phase. Whitesnake 87 was halfway a pop thrash album with Sykes right hand work on that. Might be worth covering, although TBF it's basically "Mesa Mark Series Amp" and you're good to go.
I have a surround system consisting of Paradigm Monitors (9's, Minis, CC350). Do you use yours for mixing? I'm about to set up my first recording system and need speakers (obviously). How do your Paradigms work for mixing or do you recommend getting proper studio monitors?
Great question. I use a mix of paradigm and kef to mix. I talk about what dimension drivers etc are good here th-cam.com/video/2CRGvtupO2M/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Y9q7lvOpvuFDud8v
I had to wonder about the name of the band Hellanbach. there is a Young Ones reference to this. not sure if if the band even knows or was a fan and maybe inspired by it. are you familiar with the scene im talking about? some trivia for ya!
Brighton Rock by Queen has also got some great almost proto-thrash galloping chugs from about 2:40 onwards. That was from 1974. I think Queen were one of the biggest influences on Diamond Head, who themselves were also (obviously) the biggest influence on early Metallica. So is Brian May the true godfather of thrash?
The RIFF used for "chugging" still came from Sabbath. Symptom of the Universe. Soundwise it might not be there yet though. The riff itself is always a million times more important, than the "chug" or the whatever sound it's played with.
Major chug tone began with Eddie Van Halen. Then, Ride The Lightening set the next standard moreso than Kill Em All. There was a local Detroit band called Seduce who had the most major chug until Ride The Lightening.
I'm going to drop another comment. Like one thing that I wanted to mention besides classic metal distortion guitar chugging - there is also like an 80s rock alternative to heavy chugging and that is like the mute clean technique that I really love with the delays and all. And if you look at it - it kind of is chugging also. Some bands like Dvinyls actually sounded kind of heavy using a clean chug - so that's kind of a side note. I agree with most of this video - what I would say tho' - and it's going to sound ignorant - for me personally everything starts with Metallica's Kill Em All. Like they brought it to the next level. There's several other monumental moments after that. Like Pantera's Cowboys from Hell and stuff....And it is interesting that you mentioned Carcass because I often times forget about them, but yeah - Heartwork was massive :3 - but before Kill Em All came out, there wasn't much going on regarding the really heavy sound as far as I'm concerned.
From a HUGE C-H-U-G aficionado, awesome video!!!! Just curious, what's that tune you played @ 29:15? I know it, but can't quite put my finger on it. THX!
The first pre-Punk Mosh pit was held in Mecca, Kaaba, etc. 😌 We must remember that "Thrash" was how the Hardcore Punk scene was known. In Metal you couldn't do "headang", due to the radicalism of that time, Metallica describes a Hardcore Punk concert, in "Whiplash": "Adrenaline starts to flow youre thrashing all around acting like a maniac". Hardcore Punk (Thrash) + British New Wave of Heavy Metal (NWBOHM) = Thrash Metal. Hardcore Punk scene ( ska Thrash scene ) th-cam.com/video/j-4nIDGhATE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Krf8nyue1Lpp0OLz PS: Check King Crimson - Larks' Tongues in Aspic (Part II) (Live At The Concertgebouw, Amsterdam, Nov 23 1973)
very interesting.. nice to hear about venom and killing joke ! and wow what's song u title killswitchengage? ur voice is perfect on that ! is it a cover or original? have a good life
What are some of the best chugs that get your ass crack wet? . I would pick Carcass - Inca solvent -- Asphyx - Last one on Mars -- Macabre - Hitch Hiker -- Bolt Thrower - As the World Burns, and the Sepultune is also neat as mentioned.. We need a top 10 so please add or dis.
That was an unwritten rule for certain speeds until its impossible. At 20:23 that is still true chug because some chug riffs breathe when you swing it.
I think Mustaine is a much better guitarist than Hetfield, but Hetfield is a better vocalist. (I think Matt Drake is a better singer/vocalist than Hetfield when with regard to that style). Also, I agree, "Heartwork" is amazing. "Arbeit Macht Frei" is my favorite off that album.
What do you think of Purple's In Rock? I mean, how would you consider stuff like Speed King, Hard Lovin' Man? Especially Hard Lovin' Man, would you consider to be proto-thrash?
That jimmy page riff at the beginning of the video sounds like Blitzkrieg. I’ve only ever heard the Metallica cover from the garage days though, where I hear a similar riff. That said, 100% it must’ve inspired a young James Hetfield if he was playing it in the early days. I’ve never heard this song with Jimmy Page playing the riff. What’s it called?
Man my Jackson dinky js12 is tuned to D standard i love the chug factor of metal guitars even though im more of a bass player I kind of feel like buying a Harley Benton EX 84 to have a Hetfield guitar in my artillery of basses and guitars.
Ohhh man... This video is the stuff of neck beard legend! Very informative. Ironic how the chug single handedly gave birth to metal and it ended it as well. Also, you missed the quintessential chug moment of The Who. 1970, live at leeds, young man blues after the intro of the song, Pete Townsend goes into a textbook exhibition of chuggage. C'mon man! I thought you were a The Who guy! Amazing video nonetheless
@@CIRCLEOFTONE My first thought was, shame he smashed it, That exact guitar today would probably go for a lot, But then my curiosity struck and I thought, Could it possibly go for more if it was smashed by Beck himself?
Great episode as always. However you were wrong about the first Black Sabbath album not having any chugging. The signature riff at the end of the first song, the self-titled track Black Sabbath, in fact is a chugging palm muted riff. So as much as you dont want to hear it, Black Sabbath was huge in that aspect of metal as well. :) Im totally on board with everything else you said and including The Yardbirds was awesome. Cheers!
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Ah. I see. Thanks for the response . Love your attention to detail and you also point out that real rock and roll is about rebellion, about sweat and passion, not about simply copying a formula , dressing the part and over- producing til the life is sucked out of it. It was lifestyle music back in the day. It was a statement not a costume. You get that, and I appreciate it.
I could not remember a lot of chug in the stooges but you may like this tone recreation I did th-cam.com/video/rKxhLx2wp68/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vPIVRS6i4DS2dofo
I would say Mustaine influenced the people who popularized chug in how he taught other thrash guitarists, including Hetfield. But, Hetfield had the broader influence once all those bands got known.
I guarantee you will love Tony's content. Go check him out, subscribe, say hi etc. th-cam.com/video/TxwsiFFCBOM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=eEJWZFHGexXPKleL
Yeah!!
It's definitely worth checking out. I love this dude's channel ❤️
He sounds like John Kevill from Warbringer
I KNEW IT WAS HIM LMAO i’m
a big fan
We need to somehow get together and make some new awesome music 👍
Who knew the palm mute would spawn an entire genre
Jonny Z gave a great account of the first time he heard Anthrax demo before he signed them. He said THE CHUG almost made him hide under his desk.
The guys who made distortion pedals probably knew
More than 1 genre, think of how many kinds of music utilize it, from blues to grind, alternative, djent and beyond!
@@UToobSteaknah they were clueless. They thought the fuzz was (i kid you not) a horn section for guitar. The satisfaction hook by Rolling Stones was a scratch track that was supposed to be a horn section. It was advertised as a horn section for guitars initially 😅
@CIRCLEOFTONE I love a good fuzz, but calling it the horn section of guitar is hilarious. I used to be a trumpet player, so I'm well versed in horn sections. Fuzz ain't it. They were so goofy back in the day
One heavy chug influence from the mid to late eighties not to be forgotten is Tommy Victor from Prong.Started in the NYHC scene and I think without Prong,Pantera would still be a hairmetal band.
Yep good shout. That's why I mentioned Killing Joke = so important. Raven (the bassplayer from Killing Joke) actually played on Snap your Finger" era Prong.
s.o.d. was doing it before them.
@scottowens4162 Yes, they were. While not the first chug to be certain, the chug on SOD is what got me into chug lol
Dude, Prong Beg To Differ is one of my all-time favorite albums!! Holy shit did that stick with me.
I think prong and helmet were two most influential bands that started a style of playing guitar that later would become nu metal,it's all there the groove and the tones,they made things much heavier.
Wow! No low tuning, no high gain, just the hands! Tight! THIS IS REAL CHUGGING!
Good song to show the real chugging!
I’m so glad you’re still making videos, man. You have some of the best content about music production I’ve seen. Please don’t stop ❤
You’ve GOTTA do a full video on The Sweet, can’t say enough how much I love em. Almost like a glammy Deep Purple
You okay brother? Waiting on that update.
Great deep dive Owen, you are right, many of us forget about The Yardbirds, being the first to introduce CHUG to the masses. I enjoyed the deep dive.
Thanks man! This is one of my fav vids and i think it's the old writer saying that you write what you know and love.
Love the fact that you mentioned Scott Ian as a chug king , he doesn’t get the credit & especially love Sweet !!! They were playing thrash metal, before thrash metal
Yeah he's a pioneer of chug
The kid who lived across the street from my cousin and played guitar called it “cuffing”. It didn’t stick but I found it amusing and introduced a fundamental technique alongside my other friend who showed me what a power chord was. Thank you gentlemen.
That's a good way to describe it.
This is exactly why I have subbed to this channel. Pure and excellent guitar content. No one does it quite like the Vanilla Sausage God. Also, 7:17...LMFAO
My sausage was looking a bit plump in some of those old clips.
35:49 OMFG lmao
@@charlesrocksthat spoke to my soul. He is more metal than most guitar nerds th-cam.com/video/ToNfGuXbJoc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MQL4dI8l04b4XnBn
@@CIRCLEOFTONEsame 100%
What's up with the channel and where is Owen? Will there be more videos soon? Thanks so much for all of your hard work to produce these. Always look forward to them. Hope all is well with you and your family Owen.
Came to see how many vids I'd missed, and yeah, I'm wondering the same thing.
What a video!!! The progressive djeny drinking game episode was the funniest metal oriented videos I have ever seen. Might need to start circulating it amongst these gen z core kids.
I love this channel
I hope all is well and you're happy and healthy.
Ready for some new videos..
As someone who was also a teen in the 80's, and being madly in to thrash and metal at the time, not only do I agree on so many points you've made, but you've also educated me on the origins, as well as where metal went in the years after.
Love this.
Wow. 2 minutes and you already got my like for the Sepultura cover. You know I am from Brazil and nothing makes me more proud than hear them among the US legendary bands.
The Sweet...probably the most overlooked band in history. I'm always turning people onto them and they're always like, what year did this come out?
The all that glitters documentary is so great. Like a time capsule.
Maaaan this video is so filled with info! Didn't know a lot of it. Thank you so much!
One of the best video you've ever done .Man i really enjoy it .
Thanks man. It's one of my fav vids I've done.
I'm 50 and grew up a bit in the Glam days and discovered Metallica in 1986 and of course the heavier the better and the "Chug" has not left my playing ever since!!
This channel is awseome , Thank you so much for taking the time to make these videos sir!!
Same here mate. I'm 50 and, one of the first things I'll do is chug on my guitar/s
Thank you for your video, as always very well thought out and produced you do a fantastic job!
Thanks man!
I am a guitar nerd and I approve of this chugging video!
When you told me you were doing a chug video, I thought it meant you’d get me Mountain Dew to chug if I appeared in this. This works out, too! \m/
Always with the mountain dew. 😂
5 seconds in and I hear Sepultura. This is the way folks!
When you were talking about Dave Mustaine, my mind immediately went to the riff from Wake Up Dead. Huge smile when you started playing it!
I was listening to The Who Live at Leeds and there is a lot of chugging going on in "Sparks".
Pete is my biggest non metal influence. He invented the 4x12 from sheer need from blowing speakers and you can't get more metal than that.
extending that break in Wake Up Dead is why i subscribe
I can’t believe you found that yard birds video. Brother what a great dig. I’m going to put this video up on X. Hahaha. The first mosh pit.
7:19 OW YEAH! Dude! Isn't like Annihilation Principle one crazy record? The guitar distortion is so insane it literally eats the rest of the record. Like you can barely hear the drums. And that btw is why I personally like drum samples with the real drums in extreme metal music. Because massive chug eats space and takes something really snappy to get through it :D
Really, great video/documentary
And Great Job Ripping on the Guitars 🎸
That solo hook thing was a bitch!
@@CIRCLEOFTONE but It came out amazing 💯
One thing that I would mention about chug history is that in an interview Ozzy or Geezer said that they used to listen to Led Zepoelin and smoke dope all day long.
So when Tony Iommi came up with Paranoid to close the album, they said to him they were not going to play it because it was a ripp-off of "Communication Breakdown". He had to convince them.
Thank u for mentioning Blue Cheer. I absolutely love them. First album was insane. Especially later in their career, they got heavier and heavier. Check their Live In Rockpalast video. Theyre absolutely crushing everything. I think Andy Duck MacDonald was their best guitarist.
The chug and the heaviness have been there since at least the late 60's / early 70's with bands like Blue Cheer, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Sir Lord Baltimore, Iron Claw, etc. We call it proto metal now, and it naturally got heavier and darker over time until thrash metal came along in the early / mid 80's and kicked the doors wide open for heavy guitar sounds.
Blue Cheer never chugged
That's where new metal lost me when the singers started all sounding like cookie monster.
Yep it became a farce
Jeff Beck got it from the John Burnette Trio's version of Train Kept'a Rollin'
Very cool. Really Rockabilly was huge when it came to hard rock, punk influence etc
@@CIRCLEOFTONE 🤘🏼
Great video man I love it
Death Angel. Another amazing band with dozens of awesome chug riffs. Glad you gave them some airtime. Basically my favorite thrash band
You can check out an old video I did on them
The sweet really had that proto-hair metal aesthetic
With the sweet I'd also include slade.
The ill fated US slade tour had a young kiss in tow.
Kiss completely nicked the looks and sound of the mighty slade and repackaged it for an American audience.
Also that shirt is amazing, the Transformers 86 soundtrack is so badass, the vocals on that song rival any death metal vocalists lows.
It rocks so hard th-cam.com/video/wTup5mT4O-Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=68hRoGpa5pglCByL
Did not expect to see Tony here lol, cheers Owen
Its a nice coincidence because he recently messaged me his new music and I had just put my own vocals over my cover and I sounded like shit. I loved his vocals on his new stuff, asked him and he was down.
So dope to see Capra on this, love’em! Solid vid, man. :)
Yep I went to see them this year in a tiny pool room. Solid band.
Thank you for having the balls to tell the truth about the blues. In the 1800s black people heard European 1.4.5. progression folk songs, took the guitar invented in Spain and the Austrian harmonica added their own flavor and they called it blues. How is it different when whites appreciated the blues, sped it up and cranked it up and made modern rock and roll?
What is the yardbirds somg
hey this was a great video you put alot of time in. love your The Young Ones shirt.
Thanks man: th-cam.com/video/7RGMmh0Ku7o/w-d-xo.html
Lmao, the opening song is actually SICK. Well done dude!
Thanks man!
I wish National Geographic or Historic channel had documentaries like these!!!!
Hehe
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I´m a huge fan of black sabbath but when I Think about chugs Black sabbath never comes to mind, maybe because the tone is much more flubby and loose. for me chugs are more tighter like ride the lightning , sepultura like you said, death symbolic
Bruh where the fu*k is CIRCLE OF TONE. My favorite guitar channel. Hope ya aight dude 🤟🤟🤟🤟
Great stuff mate
Inner Self is a belter! I should fasten my seatbelt, because this is gonna be a hell of a ride 🤘
Love the Sep intro! Bass is WAY too low in the opening riff until it's isolated. Great stuff!
Yeah the bass really pops on the album for that one bit
those riffs on Wake Up Dead are my favorite
The intro part on For Whom the Bell Tolls was the first time i remember being floorrd by a chug. I'd tewujd just that part and listen to it over and over.
Wait Code Orange is NuMetal?
That's song is such a vibe.
It is so that on average testicles grow by 2-10mm in diameter during a chug, forcing the comfort width of a stance to increase.
Love me bacon, love me milk, love me chug.
Science is sound.
Good call with the Sweet, Andy Scott had some serious chops and is often overlooked, great guitar player. Also love Killing Joke, might be my favorite band of all times.
KJ are absolutely one of my favourites. If I ever wanna feel like, I’ve never accomplished anything in my life, I just go to Jaz Coleman’s curriculum vitae on his Wikipedia page. I think it will make you feel the same way as well. I think it would make most people feel that way. That geezer just has endless energy and is exploding with ideas at all times.
I love Geordie Walker’s guitar playing. He is one of the greatest atmospheric guitar players. Obviously he creates a different atmosphere, but I’ve put him up there with David Gilmour . The sheer number of chord changes he might play in a given song is astronomical.
So great to know that people appreciate KJ
I hit the bell icon for you because I'm annoyed I don't get pushed your videos. First for me. I typically sub without the bell. Great shit.
I'm getting back into a major John Sykes phase. Whitesnake 87 was halfway a pop thrash album with Sykes right hand work on that. Might be worth covering, although TBF it's basically "Mesa Mark Series Amp" and you're good to go.
There are certain songs that cannot be played loud enough, I would say the sweets yesterday‘s rain is definitely in there
I have a surround system consisting of Paradigm Monitors (9's, Minis, CC350). Do you use yours for mixing? I'm about to set up my first recording system and need speakers (obviously). How do your Paradigms work for mixing or do you recommend getting proper studio monitors?
Great question. I use a mix of paradigm and kef to mix. I talk about what dimension drivers etc are good here th-cam.com/video/2CRGvtupO2M/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Y9q7lvOpvuFDud8v
I had to wonder about the name of the band Hellanbach. there is a Young Ones reference to this. not sure if if the band even knows or was a fan and maybe inspired by it. are you familiar with the scene im talking about? some trivia for ya!
Yep I think you are right. You will love this video I did th-cam.com/video/7RGMmh0Ku7o/w-d-xo.html
I totally digg this man 😊
Brighton Rock by Queen has also got some great almost proto-thrash galloping chugs from about 2:40 onwards. That was from 1974. I think Queen were one of the biggest influences on Diamond Head, who themselves were also (obviously) the biggest influence on early Metallica. So is Brian May the true godfather of thrash?
Good shout
The RIFF used for "chugging" still came from Sabbath. Symptom of the Universe. Soundwise it might not be there yet though. The riff itself is always a million times more important, than the "chug" or the whatever sound it's played with.
Major chug tone began with Eddie Van Halen. Then, Ride The Lightening set the next standard moreso than Kill Em All. There was a local Detroit band called Seduce who had the most major chug until Ride The Lightening.
Yep I mention EVH perfected the chug before the NWOBHM influenced Metallica
I'm going to drop another comment. Like one thing that I wanted to mention besides classic metal distortion guitar chugging - there is also like an 80s rock alternative to heavy chugging and that is like the mute clean technique that I really love with the delays and all. And if you look at it - it kind of is chugging also. Some bands like Dvinyls actually sounded kind of heavy using a clean chug - so that's kind of a side note. I agree with most of this video - what I would say tho' - and it's going to sound ignorant - for me personally everything starts with Metallica's Kill Em All. Like they brought it to the next level. There's several other monumental moments after that. Like Pantera's Cowboys from Hell and stuff....And it is interesting that you mentioned Carcass because I often times forget about them, but yeah - Heartwork was massive :3 - but before Kill Em All came out, there wasn't much going on regarding the really heavy sound as far as I'm concerned.
Yep that's why I mentioned the demo and not the album because of the influence Dave Mustaine had needed to be emphasized.
Love yo work
From a HUGE C-H-U-G aficionado, awesome video!!!! Just curious, what's that tune you played @ 29:15? I know it, but can't quite put my finger on it. THX!
The first pre-Punk Mosh pit was held in Mecca, Kaaba, etc. 😌 We must remember that "Thrash" was how the Hardcore Punk scene was known. In Metal you couldn't do "headang", due to the radicalism of that time, Metallica describes a Hardcore Punk concert, in "Whiplash": "Adrenaline starts to flow youre thrashing all around acting like a maniac". Hardcore Punk (Thrash) + British New Wave of Heavy Metal (NWBOHM) = Thrash Metal.
Hardcore Punk scene ( ska Thrash scene ) th-cam.com/video/j-4nIDGhATE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Krf8nyue1Lpp0OLz
PS: Check King Crimson - Larks' Tongues in Aspic (Part II) (Live At The Concertgebouw, Amsterdam, Nov 23 1973)
very interesting..
nice to hear about venom and killing joke !
and wow what's song u title killswitchengage?
ur voice is perfect on that !
is it a cover or original?
have a good life
Set Me Free by the The Sweet is quite a chug worthy song dare I say early speed metal
9:38 The verse of "Wicked World" had a bit of chug to it.
What are some of the best chugs that get your ass crack wet? . I would pick Carcass - Inca solvent -- Asphyx - Last one on Mars -- Macabre - Hitch Hiker -- Bolt Thrower - As the World Burns, and the Sepultune is also neat as mentioned.. We need a top 10 so please add or dis.
Good taste man
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Thanks but pretty obvious crushing picks - and a sucker for 90's tone too..
Now people can have new chugs. Thrash chug, punk chug, death chug, grunge chug.. Lemmy called it rock n roll..
Maybe Charlie Benante should be on list as he wrote all those chunky Anthrax riffs.
I did mention Charlie in this as the king of riffs 22:46
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I missed that!
Love, love it, love it.
I always thought of chug as muted down picking and not the alternate picking
That was an unwritten rule for certain speeds until its impossible. At 20:23 that is still true chug because some chug riffs breathe when you swing it.
I think Mustaine is a much better guitarist than Hetfield, but Hetfield is a better vocalist. (I think Matt Drake is a better singer/vocalist than Hetfield when with regard to that style).
Also, I agree, "Heartwork" is amazing. "Arbeit Macht Frei" is my favorite off that album.
Glad you got around to Purple lol. Scared me for a min
What are your thoughts on Pantera?
Best band that I've ever dived off the stage to in the 90's.
What is chug... listen to your inner self! Walk these distorted streets with chug in your mind...
@34:42 Anyone have a band ID?
That's Capra. I got to see them in a tiny pool room side room. Solid band.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Thanks! I dug what I heard in that short clip, I'll have to check out the rest of their stuff.
What do you think of Purple's In Rock? I mean, how would you consider stuff like Speed King, Hard Lovin' Man? Especially Hard Lovin' Man, would you consider to be proto-thrash?
Yep they were on the cutting edge of skill, speed and attitude.
Syd was there too . Astronomy Domine, Vegetable man, Interstellar overdrive...
Great point. I mentioned them being underrated re metal in this video th-cam.com/video/cRD6rskW0uo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QZe1AwB-GtLIPh-D
That jimmy page riff at the beginning of the video sounds like Blitzkrieg. I’ve only ever heard the Metallica cover from the garage days though, where I hear a similar riff. That said, 100% it must’ve inspired a young James Hetfield if he was playing it in the early days. I’ve never heard this song with Jimmy Page playing the riff. What’s it called?
Good point because they all played that together recently with Metallica th-cam.com/video/jWYyCerXxNM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jjhqmE7DhOJ-9-DI
The unplugged chug example sounded like the Cars - My Best Friend's Girlfriend
Not sure if you are new to the channel but I have 3 videos on Type O Negative. Check them out.
Man my Jackson dinky js12 is tuned to D standard i love the chug factor of metal guitars even though im more of a bass player I kind of feel like buying a Harley Benton EX 84 to have a Hetfield guitar in my artillery of basses and guitars.
Yep that's a satisfying tuning for chug
Ah yeah!
Jeff Beck called, says he can get your pick back
Lol the irony is I REALLY need it th-cam.com/video/8S1iz0oFwB8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MDkX0w1tXd-8_eGI
Ohhh man... This video is the stuff of neck beard legend! Very informative. Ironic how the chug single handedly gave birth to metal and it ended it as well. Also, you missed the quintessential chug moment of The Who. 1970, live at leeds, young man blues after the intro of the song, Pete Townsend goes into a textbook exhibition of chuggage. C'mon man! I thought you were a The Who guy! Amazing video nonetheless
Big fan of the sweet. The singer has a perfect rock voice. It got lumped into the glam rock scene, so they are forgotten outside of ballroom blitz
Yep criminally underrated from a pure musician and showmanship vibe.
I felt early Celtic frost mastered the chug
Yep they really dug in
@@CIRCLEOFTONE it literally is brutal
Links to the live videos of The Sweet?
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If you had that guitar today, Do you think it would be worth more all smashed or all in one piece?
I actually have one only with a p90 so it's not as collectible. I think one smashed up by Beck would bring more value than an average one.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE My first thought was, shame he smashed it, That exact guitar today would probably go for a lot, But then my curiosity struck and I thought, Could it possibly go for more if it was smashed by Beck himself?
Great episode as always. However you were wrong about the first Black Sabbath album not having any chugging. The signature riff at the end of the first song, the self-titled track Black Sabbath, in fact is a chugging palm muted riff. So as much as you dont want to hear it, Black Sabbath was huge in that aspect of metal as well. :) Im totally on board with everything else you said and including The Yardbirds was awesome. Cheers!
Close but that's single string muting. Chug is at least a power chord muted.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Ah. I see. Thanks for the response . Love your attention to detail and you also point out that real rock and roll is about rebellion, about sweat and passion, not about simply copying a formula , dressing the part and over- producing til the life is sucked out of it. It was lifestyle music back in the day. It was a statement not a costume. You get that, and I appreciate it.
Thanks man. I miss the counter culture aspect of rock and metal. Now it's a coffee shop atmosphere.
First chug album record - > Born to be Wild, Steppenwolf.
Nah I mentioned that in the video. That's muting not chugging.
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A random Killbot appears, hey Tony!
Hola!
Plus Deep Purple added the classical aspect, One of the best bands ever. What about Iggy Pop? Maybe you will get to him.
I could not remember a lot of chug in the stooges but you may like this tone recreation I did th-cam.com/video/rKxhLx2wp68/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vPIVRS6i4DS2dofo
What do you use for drums ?
I use ezdrummer 2 with mostly the modern kit and the Andy Sneap pack but I usually have about 4 different ezx kits that I blend.
I would say Mustaine influenced the people who popularized chug in how he taught other thrash guitarists, including Hetfield. But, Hetfield had the broader influence once all those bands got known.
Yep but would Het be influential if Dave never mentored his playing? That's the sum of consequence. Haha
The Sweet dont get the credit they deserve
Gotta jump in and point out the chugging in the verses of Sabbath's "Wicked World."