The history of CHUG. How did guitar get so HEAVY in the 80's? Thrash, Black Metal, Grunge, Nu Metal.
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- Who has the best right hand when it comes to being the king of chug?
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Yardbirds, Jimmy Page, The Sweet, Sepultura, Chug, Dave Mustaine, James Hetfield, Dimebag, Pantera, Metallica, Megadeth, No Life Till Leather, Crabcore. - เพลง
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It's definitely worth checking out. I love this dude's channel ❤️
He sounds like John Kevill from Warbringer
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We need to somehow get together and make some new awesome music 👍
Who knew the palm mute would spawn an entire genre
Jonny Z gave a great account of the first time he heard Anthrax demo before he signed them. He said THE CHUG almost made him hide under his desk.
The guys who made distortion pedals probably knew
More than 1 genre, think of how many kinds of music utilize it, from blues to grind, alternative, djent and beyond!
@@UToobSteaknah they were clueless. They thought the fuzz was (i kid you not) a horn section for guitar. The satisfaction hook by Rolling Stones was a scratch track that was supposed to be a horn section. It was advertised as a horn section for guitars initially 😅
You okay brother? Waiting on that update.
One heavy chug influence from the mid to late eighties not to be forgotten is Tommy Victor from Prong.Started in the NYHC scene and I think without Prong,Pantera would still be a hairmetal band.
Yep good shout. That's why I mentioned Killing Joke = so important. Raven (the bassplayer from Killing Joke) actually played on Snap your Finger" era Prong.
s.o.d. was doing it before them.
@scottowens4162 Yes, they were. While not the first chug to be certain, the chug on SOD is what got me into chug lol
Dude, Prong Beg To Differ is one of my all-time favorite albums!! Holy shit did that stick with me.
I think prong and helmet were two most influential bands that started a style of playing guitar that later would become nu metal,it's all there the groove and the tones,they made things much heavier.
Love the fact that you mentioned Scott Ian as a chug king , he doesn’t get the credit & especially love Sweet !!! They were playing thrash metal, before thrash metal
Yeah he's a pioneer of chug
You’ve GOTTA do a full video on The Sweet, can’t say enough how much I love em. Almost like a glammy Deep Purple
Wow! No low tuning, no high gain, just the hands! Tight! THIS IS REAL CHUGGING!
Good song to show the real chugging!
The kid who lived across the street from my cousin and played guitar called it “cuffing”. It didn’t stick but I found it amusing and introduced a fundamental technique alongside my other friend who showed me what a power chord was. Thank you gentlemen.
That's a good way to describe it.
Great deep dive Owen, you are right, many of us forget about The Yardbirds, being the first to introduce CHUG to the masses. I enjoyed the deep dive.
Thanks man! This is one of my fav vids and i think it's the old writer saying that you write what you know and love.
5 seconds in and I hear Sepultura. This is the way folks!
I am a guitar nerd and I approve of this chugging video!
I’m so glad you’re still making videos, man. You have some of the best content about music production I’ve seen. Please don’t stop ❤
What's up with the channel and where is Owen? Will there be more videos soon? Thanks so much for all of your hard work to produce these. Always look forward to them. Hope all is well with you and your family Owen.
Came to see how many vids I'd missed, and yeah, I'm wondering the same thing.
The Sweet...probably the most overlooked band in history. I'm always turning people onto them and they're always like, what year did this come out?
The all that glitters documentary is so great. Like a time capsule.
Thank you for your video, as always very well thought out and produced you do a fantastic job!
Thanks man!
Great video man I love it
Maaaan this video is so filled with info! Didn't know a lot of it. Thank you so much!
What a video!!! The progressive djeny drinking game episode was the funniest metal oriented videos I have ever seen. Might need to start circulating it amongst these gen z core kids.
I love this channel
I hope all is well and you're happy and healthy.
Ready for some new videos..
I was listening to The Who Live at Leeds and there is a lot of chugging going on in "Sparks".
Pete is my biggest non metal influence. He invented the 4x12 from sheer need from blowing speakers and you can't get more metal than that.
One of the best video you've ever done .Man i really enjoy it .
Thanks man. It's one of my fav vids I've done.
The sweet really had that proto-hair metal aesthetic
Great stuff mate
I can’t believe you found that yard birds video. Brother what a great dig. I’m going to put this video up on X. Hahaha. The first mosh pit.
extending that break in Wake Up Dead is why i subscribe
Really, great video/documentary
And Great Job Ripping on the Guitars 🎸
That solo hook thing was a bitch!
@@CIRCLEOFTONE but It came out amazing 💯
The chug and the heaviness have been there since at least the late 60's / early 70's with bands like Blue Cheer, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Sir Lord Baltimore, Iron Claw, etc. We call it proto metal now, and it naturally got heavier and darker over time until thrash metal came along in the early / mid 80's and kicked the doors wide open for heavy guitar sounds.
Blue Cheer never chugged
This is exactly why I have subbed to this channel. Pure and excellent guitar content. No one does it quite like the Vanilla Sausage God. Also, 7:17...LMFAO
My sausage was looking a bit plump in some of those old clips.
35:49 OMFG lmao
@@charlesrocksthat spoke to my soul. He is more metal than most guitar nerds th-cam.com/video/ToNfGuXbJoc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MQL4dI8l04b4XnBn
@@CIRCLEOFTONEsame 100%
Wow. 2 minutes and you already got my like for the Sepultura cover. You know I am from Brazil and nothing makes me more proud than hear them among the US legendary bands.
Love yo work
hey this was a great video you put alot of time in. love your The Young Ones shirt.
Thanks man: th-cam.com/video/7RGMmh0Ku7o/w-d-xo.html
Did not expect to see Tony here lol, cheers Owen
Its a nice coincidence because he recently messaged me his new music and I had just put my own vocals over my cover and I sounded like shit. I loved his vocals on his new stuff, asked him and he was down.
Thank u for mentioning Blue Cheer. I absolutely love them. First album was insane. Especially later in their career, they got heavier and heavier. Check their Live In Rockpalast video. Theyre absolutely crushing everything. I think Andy Duck MacDonald was their best guitarist.
So dope to see Capra on this, love’em! Solid vid, man. :)
Yep I went to see them this year in a tiny pool room. Solid band.
KILLBOT that’s awesome!! he’s is a cool dude!!
I wish National Geographic or Historic channel had documentaries like these!!!!
Hehe
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I´m a huge fan of black sabbath but when I Think about chugs Black sabbath never comes to mind, maybe because the tone is much more flubby and loose. for me chugs are more tighter like ride the lightning , sepultura like you said, death symbolic
When you were talking about Dave Mustaine, my mind immediately went to the riff from Wake Up Dead. Huge smile when you started playing it!
Death Angel. Another amazing band with dozens of awesome chug riffs. Glad you gave them some airtime. Basically my favorite thrash band
You can check out an old video I did on them
Also that shirt is amazing, the Transformers 86 soundtrack is so badass, the vocals on that song rival any death metal vocalists lows.
It rocks so hard th-cam.com/video/wTup5mT4O-Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=68hRoGpa5pglCByL
I hit the bell icon for you because I'm annoyed I don't get pushed your videos. First for me. I typically sub without the bell. Great shit.
I'm getting back into a major John Sykes phase. Whitesnake 87 was halfway a pop thrash album with Sykes right hand work on that. Might be worth covering, although TBF it's basically "Mesa Mark Series Amp" and you're good to go.
I totally digg this man 😊
Love, love it, love it.
One thing that I would mention about chug history is that in an interview Ozzy or Geezer said that they used to listen to Led Zepoelin and smoke dope all day long.
So when Tony Iommi came up with Paranoid to close the album, they said to him they were not going to play it because it was a ripp-off of "Communication Breakdown". He had to convince them.
Lmao, the opening song is actually SICK. Well done dude!
Thanks man!
those riffs on Wake Up Dead are my favorite
The Sweet dont get the credit they deserve
The intro part on For Whom the Bell Tolls was the first time i remember being floorrd by a chug. I'd tewujd just that part and listen to it over and over.
Wait Code Orange is NuMetal?
That's song is such a vibe.
Inner Self is a belter! I should fasten my seatbelt, because this is gonna be a hell of a ride 🤘
7:19 OW YEAH! Dude! Isn't like Annihilation Principle one crazy record? The guitar distortion is so insane it literally eats the rest of the record. Like you can barely hear the drums. And that btw is why I personally like drum samples with the real drums in extreme metal music. Because massive chug eats space and takes something really snappy to get through it :D
Love the Sep intro! Bass is WAY too low in the opening riff until it's isolated. Great stuff!
Yeah the bass really pops on the album for that one bit
Ah yeah!
very interesting..
nice to hear about venom and killing joke !
and wow what's song u title killswitchengage?
ur voice is perfect on that !
is it a cover or original?
have a good life
It is so that on average testicles grow by 2-10mm in diameter during a chug, forcing the comfort width of a stance to increase.
Love me bacon, love me milk, love me chug.
Science is sound.
Maybe Charlie Benante should be on list as he wrote all those chunky Anthrax riffs.
I did mention Charlie in this as the king of riffs 22:46
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I missed that!
Good call with the Sweet, Andy Scott had some serious chops and is often overlooked, great guitar player. Also love Killing Joke, might be my favorite band of all times.
KJ are absolutely one of my favourites. If I ever wanna feel like, I’ve never accomplished anything in my life, I just go to Jaz Coleman’s curriculum vitae on his Wikipedia page. I think it will make you feel the same way as well. I think it would make most people feel that way. That geezer just has endless energy and is exploding with ideas at all times.
I love Geordie Walker’s guitar playing. He is one of the greatest atmospheric guitar players. Obviously he creates a different atmosphere, but I’ve put him up there with David Gilmour . The sheer number of chord changes he might play in a given song is astronomical.
So great to know that people appreciate KJ
Big fan of the sweet. The singer has a perfect rock voice. It got lumped into the glam rock scene, so they are forgotten outside of ballroom blitz
Yep criminally underrated from a pure musician and showmanship vibe.
I have a surround system consisting of Paradigm Monitors (9's, Minis, CC350). Do you use yours for mixing? I'm about to set up my first recording system and need speakers (obviously). How do your Paradigms work for mixing or do you recommend getting proper studio monitors?
Great question. I use a mix of paradigm and kef to mix. I talk about what dimension drivers etc are good here th-cam.com/video/2CRGvtupO2M/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Y9q7lvOpvuFDud8v
A random Killbot appears, hey Tony!
Hola!
Now people can have new chugs. Thrash chug, punk chug, death chug, grunge chug.. Lemmy called it rock n roll..
The unplugged chug example sounded like the Cars - My Best Friend's Girlfriend
Not sure if you are new to the channel but I have 3 videos on Type O Negative. Check them out.
The RIFF used for "chugging" still came from Sabbath. Symptom of the Universe. Soundwise it might not be there yet though. The riff itself is always a million times more important, than the "chug" or the whatever sound it's played with.
Major chug tone began with Eddie Van Halen. Then, Ride The Lightening set the next standard moreso than Kill Em All. There was a local Detroit band called Seduce who had the most major chug until Ride The Lightening.
Yep I mention EVH perfected the chug before the NWOBHM influenced Metallica
The first pre-Punk Mosh pit was held in Mecca, Kaaba, etc. 😌 We must remember that "Thrash" was how the Hardcore Punk scene was known. In Metal you couldn't do "headang", due to the radicalism of that time, Metallica describes a Hardcore Punk concert, in "Whiplash": "Adrenaline starts to flow youre thrashing all around acting like a maniac". Hardcore Punk (Thrash) + British New Wave of Heavy Metal (NWBOHM) = Thrash Metal.
Hardcore Punk scene ( ska Thrash scene ) th-cam.com/video/j-4nIDGhATE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Krf8nyue1Lpp0OLz
PS: Check King Crimson - Larks' Tongues in Aspic (Part II) (Live At The Concertgebouw, Amsterdam, Nov 23 1973)
Thank you for having the balls to tell the truth about the blues. In the 1800s black people heard European 1.4.5. progression folk songs, took the guitar invented in Spain and the Austrian harmonica added their own flavor and they called it blues. How is it different when whites appreciated the blues, sped it up and cranked it up and made modern rock and roll?
That's where new metal lost me when the singers started all sounding like cookie monster.
Yep it became a farce
Glad you got around to Purple lol. Scared me for a min
What do you think of Purple's In Rock? I mean, how would you consider stuff like Speed King, Hard Lovin' Man? Especially Hard Lovin' Man, would you consider to be proto-thrash?
Yep they were on the cutting edge of skill, speed and attitude.
Set Me Free by the The Sweet is quite a chug worthy song dare I say early speed metal
I think Mustaine is a much better guitarist than Hetfield, but Hetfield is a better vocalist. (I think Matt Drake is a better singer/vocalist than Hetfield when with regard to that style).
Also, I agree, "Heartwork" is amazing. "Arbeit Macht Frei" is my favorite off that album.
Inner self✌
Inner self!
Brighton Rock by Queen has also got some great almost proto-thrash galloping chugs from about 2:40 onwards. That was from 1974. I think Queen were one of the biggest influences on Diamond Head, who themselves were also (obviously) the biggest influence on early Metallica. So is Brian May the true godfather of thrash?
Good shout
I would say Mustaine influenced the people who popularized chug in how he taught other thrash guitarists, including Hetfield. But, Hetfield had the broader influence once all those bands got known.
Yep but would Het be influential if Dave never mentored his playing? That's the sum of consequence. Haha
Great episode as always. However you were wrong about the first Black Sabbath album not having any chugging. The signature riff at the end of the first song, the self-titled track Black Sabbath, in fact is a chugging palm muted riff. So as much as you dont want to hear it, Black Sabbath was huge in that aspect of metal as well. :) Im totally on board with everything else you said and including The Yardbirds was awesome. Cheers!
Close but that's single string muting. Chug is at least a power chord muted.
I always thought of chug as muted down picking and not the alternate picking
That was an unwritten rule for certain speeds until its impossible. At 20:23 that is still true chug because some chug riffs breathe when you swing it.
Been a lurker watching your vids for a while. 100% agree on your stance that real drummers need to came back to metal. Recently found this th-cam.com/video/ebOkHsCjT1M/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared Real drums. Real interaction. Real raw energy. Their album on bandcamp is good IMO. I'm curious what your reaction is, if you don't already know about them. : ) Rock on!
Man my Jackson dinky js12 is tuned to D standard i love the chug factor of metal guitars even though im more of a bass player I kind of feel like buying a Harley Benton EX 84 to have a Hetfield guitar in my artillery of basses and guitars.
Yep that's a satisfying tuning for chug
Ohhh man... This video is the stuff of neck beard legend! Very informative. Ironic how the chug single handedly gave birth to metal and it ended it as well. Also, you missed the quintessential chug moment of The Who. 1970, live at leeds, young man blues after the intro of the song, Pete Townsend goes into a textbook exhibition of chuggage. C'mon man! I thought you were a The Who guy! Amazing video nonetheless
What is the yardbirds somg
What is chug... listen to your inner self! Walk these distorted streets with chug in your mind...
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killer intro
With the sweet I'd also include slade.
The ill fated US slade tour had a young kiss in tow.
Kiss completely nicked the looks and sound of the mighty slade and repackaged it for an American audience.
Syd was there too . Astronomy Domine, Vegetable man, Interstellar overdrive...
Great point. I mentioned them being underrated re metal in this video th-cam.com/video/cRD6rskW0uo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QZe1AwB-GtLIPh-D
9:38 The verse of "Wicked World" had a bit of chug to it.
I'm going to drop another comment. Like one thing that I wanted to mention besides classic metal distortion guitar chugging - there is also like an 80s rock alternative to heavy chugging and that is like the mute clean technique that I really love with the delays and all. And if you look at it - it kind of is chugging also. Some bands like Dvinyls actually sounded kind of heavy using a clean chug - so that's kind of a side note. I agree with most of this video - what I would say tho' - and it's going to sound ignorant - for me personally everything starts with Metallica's Kill Em All. Like they brought it to the next level. There's several other monumental moments after that. Like Pantera's Cowboys from Hell and stuff....And it is interesting that you mentioned Carcass because I often times forget about them, but yeah - Heartwork was massive :3 - but before Kill Em All came out, there wasn't much going on regarding the really heavy sound as far as I'm concerned.
Yep that's why I mentioned the demo and not the album because of the influence Dave Mustaine had needed to be emphasized.
I had to wonder about the name of the band Hellanbach. there is a Young Ones reference to this. not sure if if the band even knows or was a fan and maybe inspired by it. are you familiar with the scene im talking about? some trivia for ya!
Yep I think you are right. You will love this video I did th-cam.com/video/7RGMmh0Ku7o/w-d-xo.html
all hail the chugg
What are your thoughts on Pantera?
Best band that I've ever dived off the stage to in the 90's.
Links to the live videos of The Sweet?
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Man that Yardbirds crowd was CRAZY!!! Were they docile zombies or something?
They were being directed by the director. I read some of the extras talking about it
If you had that guitar today, Do you think it would be worth more all smashed or all in one piece?
I actually have one only with a p90 so it's not as collectible. I think one smashed up by Beck would bring more value than an average one.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE My first thought was, shame he smashed it, That exact guitar today would probably go for a lot, But then my curiosity struck and I thought, Could it possibly go for more if it was smashed by Beck himself?
First chug album record - > Born to be Wild, Steppenwolf.
Nah I mentioned that in the video. That's muting not chugging.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE 👍🏼
Gotta jump in and point out the chugging in the verses of Sabbath's "Wicked World."
Awesome video. Was cool to see some modern hardcore bands like Slant get a shout out. I feel old cause I remember when metalcore and deathcore made its first round through the DIY scene, and there's currently a huge metal core resurgence going on 20 years after I started going to gigs.
Yep. Gel is my fav out of the new school. Capra were solid live when I saw them in a tiny side room in a pool hall.
What do you use for drums ?
I use ezdrummer 2 with mostly the modern kit and the Andy Sneap pack but I usually have about 4 different ezx kits that I blend.
I felt early Celtic frost mastered the chug
Yep they really dug in
@@CIRCLEOFTONE it literally is brutal
@34:42 Anyone have a band ID?
That's Capra. I got to see them in a tiny pool room side room. Solid band.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Thanks! I dug what I heard in that short clip, I'll have to check out the rest of their stuff.
I would argue the riff at the end of the song Black Sabbath is a chug.
Fuck that. I love the lo-fi intro.
You must be young. Give it another 20 years popping up on every prog album and get back to me. It will drive you nuts esp when fans bleat about them being so creative etc