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- Sony Pictures was hacked and the U.S. blamed North Korea. But the government's evidence wasn't all that convincing, and many hackers and computer experts still have doubts.
This episode of Cyberwar first aired on VICE TV in 2016.
In memoriam: Daniel Kaminsky (February 7, 1979 - April 23, 2021)
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This had a more far-reaching impact than just Sony Pictures. I lost my job at Sony Electronics in 2014 due to the financial fallout of this hack on the company as a whole. Certain Marketing departments were shut down, the NYC headquarters/flagship store was sold and moved to a smaller building, and the VAIO laptop business was sold off. Whether North Korea was 100% responsible or not, major corporations need to have better cyber security measures in place now more than ever.
Was anything even encrypted back then?
Or not mock leaders of other countries
To me that's just very evil and if it was North Korea they are already making missiles to hit the United States so they're at war against the U.S. I believe we're in the ending days too much evil and too many nuclear weapons look what Putin did he killed thousands of children that's just straight-up evil 👹😈👿
@@smoshfan439nope everything was easier to obtain back then
I'm so sorry that you were one of the innocent victims who had their livelihoods thrown into question in the wake of this.
I'd have loved to say that cyber security has improved significantly. There's certainly more awareness of it, and yet some of the critical vulnerabilities I've seen have almost convinced me that cyber security as an industry is complete myth. I couldn't say how close we are to Q-Day, as there's been some claims in the past few months that it's already upon us. What I CAN say, however, is that we're only ever as strong as our weakest link. All the remediation in the world will not fix stupid.
PSN being down for a month unlocked soooo many memories
That’s kinda sad, step away from that goddamn idiot box. 😢
@@crakkbone8473 You streamed COD zombies 2 years ago, PSN went down 10 years ago.
@crakkbone8473 as you stare into your "smart"phone daily 😂 stop rotting your brain and being so hypocritical
You literally spend your time building Legos sit down boy @@crakkbone8473
Dont invalidate someone's childhood memories because of your own ignorance.
You're the idiot in a box here@@crakkbone8473
“Nerd war” (and the disdain w/ which she delivered it) was the perfect note to end it on. You were starting to give ppl the idea that security researchers are cool.
well it is Vice news so anything they say you should take with a few grains of salt lol used to be good but the past 5-7 years its just gone down hill.
There is a fundamental difference between security researcher and rogue hacker. That's like labeling your dad or a police officer as a terrorist because they have guns and terrorists have guns.
Whoa. What is cool and what includes security researchers. Working for the state and developing implants that get smuggled into terrorists computers and spy on them in stealth or working for the NSA so they can use their massive resources and connections to spy on everybody on this world? for me that is pretty cool but like in other scientific fields most of them are embarrassing persons
"You were starting"? No, she DID. And that's good, obviously. So... Why does your comment read like you think security researchers are uncool? Did you just not proofread or something?
Edit: I think I see what you were trying to say. Were you saying that you felt that she was saying the phrase "nerd war" in a negative manner? I interpreted it as "a neutral statement from someone in a frustrated mood".
"This isn't a hack that requires nation state intent, it's a hack that requires a couple of guys being bored", said Dan Kaminsky, beautifully summarising the core message here.
Fully on his side tbh. Not to mention the guy who said its from North Korea, because of two reasons. One, being because of security being spelt incorrectly like secruity, when its just because they were typing too fast and most likely accidentally pressed the letter r before u switching the letters around spelling it as secruity, and not a person who's first language isn't English thinking security is spelt secruity lol.
@@oof_man9954you kinda missed why he said that, its not the misspelling itself, it's the fact that it was spelled exactly the same as the other code, that was known to come from south korea. Also, where's reason two?
@@georgerosebush9754 i feel like it's not rare for people who type fast to have this happen. It happens to me often as well, which I wouldn't be surprised if it's either the same person or not that made the mistake, that this could've "easily" been a coincidence and nothing else, but anyway it's just a theory... A GAME THEOR- (Sorry) ah-ehemm, it's just a small theory of mine. I don't really know, I'm only 15. I'm still learning, lol. Have a wonderful life, stranger! since I'll most likely never get to see/talk to you again! But anyway, bye-bye!!!!! ❤️👋🏼🙂😆
Do you ever feel like a plastic bag, drifting through the wind, wanting to start again?
yes
I like turtles
Do you ever feel,feel so paper thin Like a house of cards,
@@Kayla-lz8dq one now from caving in!? 🌬️
baby, you're a firework.
Vice playing “just the tip” with these good videos once every quarter.
Good luck getting anything else from them.
Read the description. This video is recycled from 2016.
I'm gonna play just the tip with my wife tomorrow now that she's kissing Ass being bad this past weekend
A lot of this makes sense, but there are some things that I don’t agree with. Such as at 12:57, when the guy says he doesn’t see a reason why North Korea would try and extort money; it is well known and documented that the DPRK actively steals money from various countries, due to the large amount of sanctions imposed on the country. This is one of the biggest reasons the DPRK to invests so much into its cyber capabilities. It’s been estimated the DPRK stole 600 million worth of Crypto in 2023 alone; if they were already infiltrating Sony’s networks to cause damage, why wouldn’t they attempt to extort them while they were at it? Another thing I'm kind of skeptical of is the statement at 20:00. The idea of routing internet traffic through North Korea, especially at that time seems a bit far-fetched to me. The majority of DPRK’s computers are connected to their own private network or Intranet, not to be mistaken with the internet. It is said that at this time there were only a few thousand computers in North Korea that were connected to the internet, and all of these computers were operated by high-ranking officials. I find it hard to believe typical hacker bros were able to find one or multiple of these computers, penetrate them, and conceal their presence, while simultaneously extracting data from Sony through these networks, for the amount of time needed to obtain the amount of data they were able to steal. If the DPRK didn't do it, I feel it is still most likely a nation-state that carried out the attack. I'm not an expert by any means, so if there is any information I could be overlooking or misinterpreting please let me know.
www.trmlabs.com/post/north-korean-hackers-stole-600-million-in-crypto-in-2023#:~:text=After%20Sinbad%20was%20sanctioned%20by,innovation%20from%20business%20and%20governments.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwangmyong_(network)
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_North_Korea#:~:text=The%20total%20number%20of%20Internet,in%20North%20Korea's%20academic%20institutions.
Wow, I can't believe your comment only got 6 likes. You literally explained the legit factual reasons why North Korea was most likely behind this. Yet this fat ogre of a computer scientist overlooked so many different things just to get off his basic premise that this was opportunistic hackers which it could be. But so narrow-minded this guy. Thank God you explained the sanctions cuz that's exactly why North Korea hacks so many companies and organizations, you name it. They've tried it. They make so much money from hacking huge enterprise because of the obvious Nato sanctions. Like c'mon this should be commonsense.
I know trust in the US government is at an all time low, but it's kind of ridiculous to trust "experts" who are speculating based solely on public information and also going way beyond their skillsets (hacker speculating on the motives of the DPRK government? Really?) over the FBI who are undoubtably very familiar with North Korean cyberattacks and have no reason to lie. This story feels sensationalized and doesn't reflect well on Vice's journalism.
They have 4 IPv4 subnets lmao. You also have to realize the vast majority of NK’s cyber operatives stay outside of the country in China, Russia, and other friendly countries.
It’s was absolutely, positively, Lazarus group behind the Sony hacks. It was North Korean tradecraft thru and thru, from the exploits they used to the motive they had behind the attack.
@@garrettshook7634…who?
guy's trying to be smart yet citing wikipedia
this was so interesting, i agree with the other comments saying a full length in depth doc on this subject would be very very cool to watch
Dude he didn’t even talk about the movie The Interview that was literally the main reason why North Korea was so angry. This guys a complete hack.
probably was some 13 year old in their parents basement angry he cant play Grand Theft Auto
We need a in depth doc about this
This is it. I mean how more in-depth can you get
@@thedappercookthis video is about if North Korea did it. Not the hack itself.
@@noone4474 the hack is extremely well documented already
@noone4474 look up Jack ryhsider darknet diaries
@@noone4474 In addition, this is from 2016.
4:07 confirmed: Angelina Jolie is a hacker for North Korea.
🤣😅😂
Well her and her ex... Johnny Lee Miller! I saw how they took down that awful Fisher Stevens and his plan to cause that tanker to capsize!
The TRUE Mr.& Mrs. Smith's!
😮😮😮
This was so far beyond Sony employees. My emails me were in there, too. I worked closely with Sony a lot but never had an SPE email
We need more cyber security investigations/stories!
The woman at the end had me rolling when she called it a Nerd war she's not even lying😂
Big companies exploiting and murdering millions of people per day:😴
Random hackers making a company suffer for 2 seconds: 😵🤬😡😤😤
This wasn’t just “random hackers.” The North Koreans were retaliating over The Interview. It’s been a few years, but I followed that story closely-more closely than this hack clearly.
@@istrumguitars 🤓
@@elpidalastname9834lmao
I’m only mad at it when I’m affected.
My parents were taken out by a Sony hit squad.
Never forget. ✊✊✊
R.I.P Dan Kaminsky, dude was a legend
Damn he died? Got excited when he showed up, that guy just EXUDES charisma & expertise.
Oh no!!!!
Oh man the movie leaks about this time were so high quality
Nerd War sounds dope.
agreed.
Brooo I've been waiting for you to come back and continue the 'Hacked' videos
Keep on posting these vice
18:50(ish)
Suggesting a commonly misspelling of a variable name implies the same threat actor is silly.
Open source software is regularly forked and tweaked, or simply downloaded and run without modification.
Software has infinite breadth and depth and no-one can understand all the software on which they depend.
Hackers strive to know as many levels as they can however you won't find a single hacker out there who doesn't occasionally rely on blackbox abstractions (understanding things in terms of what they do, as opposed to how they do it)
In fact Id go as far as to say that no-one who uploaded or remote-file-inclusion'ed a php shell to breach a server knew how the software worked, they only knew what it did (and even then, not all of it)
This is evident by the fact that it took 9 years for the password bypassing backdoor to be discovered in the c99 shell (assuming the "beta (2005" line can be believed.
The wordpress plugin "OWM Weather" accidentally released a version that said OPM instead of OWN, if two people have this software version in common are they both working for the same puppeteer?
Is it me, or do Geohot and Quentin Tarantino have similar speaking styles/rhythms...?
It seems like most of these hackers in this video have this overly-excited, very proud of themselves demeanour.
@@geronimo8159alot of hackers are autistic and see code as a puzzle to crack which also explains the speech style
Geohot doesn't finish many sentences with "alright".
It's crazy. I thought Dan Kaminsky sounds like Quentin Tarantino 20:05 . Were you talking about him?
A perfect example of gutting the IT department and the results you receive
Everything is now in a cloud based situation, which is even worse, cos those have been hacked by china already... So... It forces people to use something else. Hence why now data laws are not even managing to stop the individuals. I.e. the war in Russia, in Israel.... It forces most people to use gadgets that are of the same grade as the current warring scenes...
Love this segment
This is what they get for releasing Madame Web
'The invterview' really was a great film, well worth the hack ha
😂
Dude this guy doesn’t even talk about it. I remember that clearly being the catalyst for why all this went down.
Always watching from Georgetown Guyana south America 🇬🇾🇬🇾🇬🇾
You had me at "Nerd War"
The best intro visuals ever made 🖤
the lady at the end was gold
RIP Dan Kiminsky, gosh 2021 feels like yesterday, you're missed among the community
Cyberhack Attack
sounds like a Death Grips song title
😢😅😢😅😅
My brother left Xbox to work at Playstation and was shocked at how sloppy and shoddy all of Sony's organization was compared to Microsoft.
It's astounding how much better Sony's tools are than Microsoft's though. Especially the Windows ones that integrate directly into the OS. Microsoft may have better info sec but Sony still the king of software and hardware.
@@SK83RJOSH And yet.....they got hacked. Oh, the irony.
@anonygrazer3234 anyone can get hacked.
@@anonygrazer3234 twice. this hack and the psn hack from anonymous
@@SK83RJOSH "but Sony still the king of software and hardware"
lol are you typing from a Sony Computer?
Ain't as bad as the PSN hack that left me unable to play call of duty as a teen for like weeks
That was the first 16 years of my childhood.
Xbox live changed everything
That one was done by 4chan users i believe. Saw a video about it here on youtube
Ok that intro was fire
I still hope an in depth documentary hits.
20:25 Well,… It was only ONE „bored (and pissed)“ dude.😂🎉
These top executives still use email for personal use???
It’s Hollywood, we all do. The lines are so blurred. It’s the only business where going out for personal lunches and drinks are part of business, too. It’s wild.
Well give us ideas on what else you use in replacement for email? Using email is literally free, simple and readily available to use.
Idk maybe they used the same work computer for your personal email provider not necessarily work email accounts
What a crazy time that was.
do chinese companies/people have shares in rest of world software/hardware ?
Well, of course your ending relay would be in North Korea out of all places, then everyone just gives up and calls it a day.
Just. Let. Go.
You cant get any decent ad rev from youtube to save vice.
Why 2016 story got uploaded now? Are they trying to review channel with this themed playlists ?
Sick 😢😢
Has anyone else not ever heard of this?
I remember it. Got free games off of it for the ps3.
@@mfmichi So some teenager also looking for free games did this from his room
It was a huge news story at the time, but hacking and stealing is something NK does all the time anyway. They still do it to this day.
@@mfmichi and free data monitoring from All Clear
hahaha still watchin but if this is the clue, wtf or lol@@Hypoksi
RIP Dan Kaminsky.
Love your videos dude
Dude literally said he cant comment on an on going investigation almost a decade after.... What a joke.
This video is from 2016, so it was only about 2 years after the hack
@@ButtThuck ahh that is much more reasonable.
I work pretty close to the santa barbara public market :]
I always thought North Korea has barely advanced past dial up
They hacked two semiconductor manufacturers in south korea days ago, stole $3 billion in cryptocurrency over the last year, hacked DSME twice between 2016-2024 and leaked 60 naval designs, broke into south korea's nuclear industry network, hacked a russian missile manufacturer...so you thought wrong.
It would have been nice, if we had gotten more seasons of this show.
You know I love me some hacking.
"What is Sony doing putting out custom malware on cd's?" Did Sony have so many enemies it could have been any of them. The staff were collateral damage-nice. RIP Dan.
Still can't believe Dan is gone :(
Good Short Documentary and it/you are ALREADY WAAAAY closer to the truth than the official Story.
Great video 🎉
RIP DAN
Doesn't matter who it was, Sony was to blame because their security was bad. It was only a matter of time before someone did it.
Kia was attacked too lmao we were down for a while
It Doesn't matter where the attack coming from North Korea or North Dakota lol 😂
As a city bus driver , I feel defenseless in this era of technology. Fml…
Thanks for tbe reporting....10 years later. Is vice struggling THAT much?
I totally forgot about this. I remembered the controversy around “the interview”, but I didn’t realize it was because of a cyber attack… interesting, thanks vice!
it's amazing to me that this piece was being made DURING the notorious Cambridge Analytica / Facebook fiasco ! !
I would say that is not remotely related.
@@religionisapoison2413 I agree. I wasn't trying to relate the two, sorry.
@@frankiefromky all good
Never heard of that. Cambridge analytica
The guy from Kaspersky working on an Alienware laptop, smh.
unrelated but didn't vice declare bankruptcy at some point? how are they still posting and all that?
Bankruptcy for businesses are different than bankruptcy for individuals.
Geo hots is crazy, I love his energy😂😂
Always thought from the beginning that it was not North Korea.
How’s the business doing vice?
Heard that VICE News was shutting down. I just wanna congratulate them and wish all the employees luck in their future endeavors. I heard Walmart is hiring. Maybe they can work as door greeters.
They're not qualified. You want nice friendly people to greet the customers. Not some weirdos who believe insane things.
@@c.p.b1165 yup, my mistake. 😂
Nice?!? You mean the people who harass you & ask to see your receipt after seeing you pay? @@c.p.b1165
The hack may have delayed the release of the movie in theatres but it made me want to watch it much more! It was on Xbox store right away.
If the government points the finger look at the direction of the other 3 cuz its never the ones they point at
Goerge Hotz is such a character
No it was a ticket holder to Madame Web.
Talk about the WikiLeaks papers
Free Julian
Vice News shutting down? Talk about a nice story to end the week! Happy weekend!
Absolutely amazing video! Great job!! We need more hacking docs from Vice!
Thumbnail goes unbelievably hard
Its probably some 15 year old kid
The thumbnail goes hard
I just laughed when they said this is the voice of koreer 😂😂😂
It's fascinating to delve into the complexities of cybersecurity and the significant impacts cyber attacks can have on companies and even entire nations. The situation with Sony's cyber attack brought to light how interconnected and vulnerable our digital world can be. It's a reminder of the importance of robust cybersecurity measures and the need for ongoing vigilance to protect against such threats. The incident also opens up discussions on international relations and the digital battleground, where the consequences of cyber warfare are still being understood. It's crucial for individuals, corporations, and governments to collaborate in strengthening cyber defenses and to foster a safer digital environment for everyone. Keep exploring these topics; your curiosity and awareness contribute to a more informed and resilient community!
Vice, thank you for making some of your best work more accessible and available for free.
Anyone else remember PSN being offline for over a month when this happened?
no simon cowell saying he wanted howard sterns agt spot was a bad one too.
After he saw the Interview
Imagine a weapon designed to permanently delete the web
8 year old news 👍🤦🏻♂️
TLDR: dunno 🤷♂️
this episode is so old
Swear I've seen some of these people in the Denmark season of South Park
11:31 journalist talking to a paused video. why even bother
I completely forgot about PSN going down for a month and when Anonymous was everywhere on the internet
Dan Kaminsky died April 23, 2021 but this video was released 19 hours ago?🙄
Seen it on JRE first
Dude, how could you leave the Bangladesh Bank heist behand, when you are about to introduce the lazarus group?
Theres a podcast called the Lazarus Heist which covers north korean hacking in good detail - and reason behind why korea would hack sony
and why❓️
Korea is a really poor country, as stated in the vice doc, they struggle to keep the lights on, and their own people are practically starving. Hacking is a main source of income for Korea - especially for nuclear operations. The podcast series talks about hacks on banks suspected by north korea. In regards to the Sony hack, though it wasnt hacked for money, korea do have the hacking capabilities to do this, and with the film the interview - depicting the assassination of kim jong il, it pretty plausible they would use hackers has a means of revenge. Seth rogan has spoken in interviews how he recieved a body guard after the film. Hope this helps , the podcast series is probably 10-20 hours long by BBC world service so goes into alot more detail than this 20min doc. Also talks in detail about the otto warmbeier case who was a boy who went on a trip to north korea and was sent back to the US in a vegetative state, he stole a propaganda poster. @@2melo194
Korea is a really poor country, as stated in the vice doc, they struggle to keep the lights on, and their own people are practically starving. Hacking is a main source of income for Korea - especially for nuclear operations. The podcast series talks about hacks on banks suspected by north korea. In regards to the Sony hack, though it wasnt hacked for money, korea do have the hacking capabilities to do this, and with the film the interview - depicting the assasination of kim jong il, they would probably use hacking as a means for revenge. Seth rogan has spoken in interviews how he was given a body guard after they made the film as they were concerned he might be killed as a consequence. The podcast is about 20 hours long so goes into alot more detail than this 20min vid. Also mentions the otto warmbier case, the boy who stole a poster in north korean on a trip and was sent back in a vegetative state and later died. If they'd do that to a boy that stole a poster, a hack at sony doesn't seem that unplausible. @@2melo194
Korea is a really poor country, as stated in the vice doc, they struggle to keep the lights on, and their own people are practically starving. Hacking is a main source of income for Korea - especially for nuclear operations. The podcast series talks about hacks on banks suspected by north korea. In regards to the Sony hack, though it wasnt hacked for money, korea do have the hacking capabilities to do this, and with the film the interview - depicting the assasination of kim jong un, they would probably use hacking as a means for revenge. Seth rogan has spoken in interviews how he was given a body guard after they made the film as they were concerned he might be killed as a consequence. The podcast is about 20 hours long so goes into alot more detail than this 20min vid. Also mentions the otto warmbier case, the boy who stole a poster in north korean on a trip and was sent back in a vegetative state and later died. If they would do that to a boy who stole a poster, then a hack at sony seems pretty plausible @@2melo194
Korea is a really poor country, as stated in the vice doc, they struggle to keep the lights on, and their own people are practically starving. Hacking is a main source of income for Korea - especially for nuclear operations. The podcast series talks about hacks on banks suspected by north korea. In regards to the Sony hack, though it wasnt hacked for money, korea do have the hacking capabilities to do this, and with the film the interview - depicting the assasination of kim jong un, they would probably use hacking as a means for revenge. Seth rogan has spoken in interviews how he was given a body guard after they made the film as they were concerned he might be killed as a consequence. The podcast is about 20 hours long so goes into alot more detail than this 20min vid. Also mentions the otto warmbier case, the boy who stole a poster in north korean on a trip and was sent back in a vegetative state and later died. If they would do that to a boy who stole a poster, then a hack at sony seems pretty plausible @2melo194
Thumbnail hard as hell
Didn’t watch this, but the thumbnail goes hard af
Damn I remember this . Cuz PlayStation network was down for a while .