In a meeting with the writers of Clone Wars, Lucas again emphasizes the need to suppress nature of the dark side and embracing the light. The balance is acknowledging two tendencies of the nature of the Force, and rejecting the destructive nature. He implies the suppression of the Dark Side was vital. The Jedi were right, the Sith were wrong. We know there can’t be light without dark. That’s a fact. But George wasn’t saying the dark was needed, or necessary, but is a given. Balance always meant not to give in to the selfish tendencies of the Dark Side but embrace the light. By the end of Return of the Jedi, everything is right in the world - until Luke fails to rebuild a meaningful Jedi order, The First Order reigns, and the Dark Side makes its presence known again.
I believe that a fusion of both light and dark is needed. One isnt a slave just because you care for others, and one is not merely evil just because they are focusing on themselves. Black and white thinking is foolishness. It must flow together.
Ironically Anakin pursued power and became a sith at least in part because he was seeking greater freedom-he felt restricted and inhibited by the Jedi, and he was haunted by his childhood experiences in slavery-and to free himself from fear of loss, another remnant from his troubled childhood. But by becoming a sith he found only slavery to the dark side and even greater loss.
He was just looking for knowledge to save Padme. On his journey though, he got consumed by the power he has gained and lost his way sadly. What started as a journey to save his loved one, tragically ended with his downfall.
@@brainrich1358 he was destined to balance to the force, he had to lose and be lost to the dark side to save luke in the return of the jedi and bring Balance as was destined by Qui Con
@@nettewilson5926 No, he had, because he needed to destroy Jedi too. Jedi who become corrupted and a tool in politics, and not a guardian of peace. In case of Anakin, he needed to wipe the slate clean in both orders, as Outcast done thousands of years ago under Kreia guidance.
Darth Vectivus is one of my favorite characters because even though he’s a sith he’s balanced and uses the dark side without letting it consume him. He also still felt and showed compassion and care for his loved ones. Proof that not all dark side users are evil.
I just recently learned about him, he's one if not the only sith who enjoys reading and taking care of his family financially, he only became sith so he could use lightning efficiently. Very good man
@@davelo3506 I’ve known of Revan for a long time now (since I originally played KOTOR) but yes I do now. Honestly, that just makes him even more badass imo lol. Revan is my favorite character in general, Sith or Jedi. Makes sense considering he’s both and or neither.
The Philosophy of the Sith is like the embodiment of ''You are the captain of your own ship.'' or "Your mind is a battlefield. Be its commander, not its soldier" or ''Putting yourself above others.'' which have positive advantages because it encourages individuals to stand up for yourselves, build self-reliance and freedom of choice.
@@chrisjackson1889 Yes it has. Power has always gone to the ambitious, ruthless & capable. You'll find the meek & compassionate amongst the ranks of the slaves. This is doubly so in Greco-Roman times, before Christianity's interpretation of morality started to blow up.
The sith would honestly be unstoppable if they learn how to control their emotions and their lust for power that would lead them to their downfall. That’s why in my opinion, count dooku was such a powerful character; he is able to use busted force abilities like more aggressive lightsaber forms and force lighting while having the discipline and control to not let himself get too corrupted by the dark side. Unlike most sith, he was able to make rational decisions and not get himself into the inevitable death of all sith from their uncontrolled lust for power.
So true, that's why he doesn't have the Sith eyes. Every other Sith lets hate dominate them, Dooku uses it when necessary. Bro was lowkey closer to a grey jedi than to a sith. He turned for altruistic reasons after all. Sorely underutilized character by Lucas.
Dooku was a loser who lacked the willpower to fully embrace either side, so he ends up dead with little-to-no achievements & the universe remembering him as little more than a squabbling senator; if they remember him at all. He quite literally didn't achieve shit in comparison to the Sith which "let themselves get too corrupted by the dark side" & is ultimately wiped out with ease by the plans of such a Sith. Guess he should've had a bit more hate in em lmao
That's not true at all, knowing how evil you can be will change nothing, currently you said that "inspiring" line,but in your real life you are still a no one
@@youuglymess you don't have to be a somebody to be evil or good, you know. What defines us as people is our behavior when we know we won't ever gain any sort of recognition for our actions.
@@javierperez-xo8mr The reason the dark side is more powerful (both in Star Wars and life) is that it gives you more possibilities. As a 'good' person you can't do 'bad' things, but you can do 'good' things as a 'bad' person, especially if it serves you a goal in the end. So naturally, most CEOs and managers are more likely to score high on psychopathy... Up to the point that psychopathy is a better predictor of success than IQ.
"Good is a point of view, Anakin..." this single line from Palpatine summarises the reasons behind the whole Jedi-Sith conflict. We view the Jedi as good because the movies are told from a 'jedi-friendly' point of view. Would be amazing to have a movie with a Sith point of view.
@@Sinuhe38 yes. This is why I think we need movies from the Sith point of view. So that these are not subtle details, but evidence that the Jedi way can mislead ...
I always found it funny that Plagueis and Sidious were so hung up on the idea that the Dark Side can be *Concentrated* , as if it was venom, by limiting the # of Dark Side practitioners. Vitiate was *at least* as powerful as Tenebrous or Plagueis, yet the Sith Emperor lived and reigned at a time when powerful Dark Siders existed in the *thousands* ! Plagueis just comes out and states this rationale for the Rule of Two, but not even Bane offered anything resembling a factual basis for such a belief. His reasons for instituting the Rule of Two was simply a common-sense recognition that Dark Siders would always and invariably consider other Dark Siders rivals who threatened their own power. Bane was just trying to prevent a repeat of the clusterfuck that was the Brotherhood of Darkness. (Ie: When the Sith become the enemy of good order throughout the galaxy in a *highly visible manner* , the Jedi are invariably given a mandate to direct the Reoublic’s resources against the Sith.) The TLDR version? Bane’s Rule of Two was intended to ensure there wouldn’t be a horde of militant, highly competent/experienced Jedi Lords/Ladies to resist Sith aggression. All this “The Dark Side is more powerful when less people use it” is nothing but blind cultish mysticism.
I think you misunderstood what Plagueis meant. I believe he wasn't so much speaking of an individual's power so much as one's knowledge. Knowledge in the Force in a very real way equates into greater power, and more Sith means the more spread out that knowledge will become, making each Sith far weaker than they could of been.
@@BlankEmporium How does that work? Less overall practitioners means less experimentation/innovation, and greater chances of a huge body of lore being lost at one time. Plagueis knew such a loss of lore was possible, because Darth Gravid’s attempted return to the Light Side (And subsequent attempt to destroy all the Rule of Two-era’s accrued Dark Side lore) was passed down by Gravid’s apprentice (Who prevented a complete lore-blanking by killing her master.) Plagueis was himself a researcher, so he should have understood all individuals doing “original” research are standing on the proverbial shoulders of their predecessors. Even Caedus’s mistress, Lumiya, pointed out that the Sith are limited as much by their paranoia as any constraint of circumstances. How do you reconcile all that with the idea the “Venom” is meant to represent lore, not overall power in the Dark Side?
I totally agree @shawn it only makes sense that the rule of two was made to limit the amount of craziness that would no doubt transpire like the brotherhood of darkness. All the venom talk is stupid, the force is the force. It’s not light or dark. Tbh I would even call the dark side “dark” I would call it the uncontrollable side of the force. While the light side is the more explored controllable aspects (and mind you those controllable aspects are different for various ppls/species). That’s exactly why the Jedi aren’t even good. They just happen not to go to crazy vile every time the use the force, unlike the sith.
The Rule of Two has always been flawed it took 1000 years to gain 20 years of power, 130 years later Darth Krayt would cast aside the Rule Of Two rebuilding the Sith as One and proved arguably was as powerful as Palpatine, I mean he was the only Sith to literally escape and avoid death by WILLING himself back to life with Dark Transfer. The Rule Of Two is the legacy of a mad man who wished to never be forgotten atleast that's what I've come to view it as. Arguably the force doesn't favor people based on numbers but devotion which is why I've always preferred Lord Momin's Philosophy on the Darkside of the Force.
More like an attempt to concentrate all knowledge and power in a single locus. It's a way of forcing practicioners to strive for excellence and be the best they can be. The master owes his apprentice power and knowledge. The apprentice loyalty. When either does not fulfill their side of the bargain they are executed. Thus the remainder gets stronger.
@@Lua-420Hertz She's not that good tho,she invented most of what she said because she wanted to Manipulate the main character of the game "you", you all know nothing about Starwars and how The Force works
I love this concept, David Goggins has something similar which he calls "Going into the Dark Room" to find yourself and I agree, the Darkness is exactly what I need and it's helped me make some of my biggest strides. Love your channel, bro!
In my 20s, I behaved like a Sith, or at least like Dionysus: Work the hardest, get the most toys, Play harder, Win at all costs, and Feel everything! In my 40s, I behaved like a Jedi: Stay Calm, Find Peace, Renounce possessions, Winning isn't real, Accomplish Logic. Now, I'm almost 50 and just try to synthesize the two into Wisdom.✌🎋
@@Poussyeater-w5e There was an episode of "Brain Games" on the Discovery Channel years ago that explored this concept. It never occurred to me, but even when our favorite team wins, it doesn't really mean anything in the bigger picture, bc the world turns and the game will be replayed. It was really fascinating.✌
@@SchwabGames2014 Freedom of choice does not require freedom of the mind, and living doesn't require precaution nor concern. If anything, focusing so much on mind, caution & concern completely sabotages one's freedom of choice, because said "freedom of mind" brings about the fear of losing that "freedom of mind" and thus causing paralysis, passiveness & stasis in the name of avoiding that fear. Give up the fear of losing the mind - be like an animal - and suddenly one is far more free in what they can choose to do, not on the leash of one's mind / awareness / preservation.
@@DBArtsCreators Without the mind, you can't make the action of choice. Choice requires the mind to even happen in the first place. Living does require concern because when you're in a life or death situation, you have to be concerned about how you need to survive to prevail. Fighting, flying, or freezing is a choice the mind must make to satisfy the concerns of living. Depending on the situation, either is valid.
@@SchwabGames2014 Wrong. Things as mindless as viruses, bacteria, fungi, plants, and insects still make choices - not simple reactions, but actual choices of what it interact with or avoid. When such thing are able to make decisions without a mind, it is proven that one especially does not need a "free"/enlightened mind to be able to make choices. One simply needs to be a living creature, and that only requires that you have a functioning body (not thoughts in that body's mind). Living does not require concern. Regardless of whether or not you are concerned, you will still live. You have no choice in the matter, nor does any other living creature. Until you are killed (by yourself or someone else), you WILL live. What you are referring (fight, fly, freeze, etc) to is not living - it is self-preservation, and self-preservation is optional. Preservation in general is optional. EVERYTHING one can do with their life and ability is optional. Only those who hold to concerns regarding their mind find their choices restricted. Giving up that freedom of mind/enlightenment gives up those restrictions as well, as one is not restricted by mental guardrails they have not put in place in the first place.
“There is more to the force than restraining its power within the bounds of a moral framework.” This is such a good breakdown & gave me so much more to dig into. Awesome job!
I know that it isn't displayed much in the movies, but the videos games such as KOTOR I and KOTOR II really hone in on the philosophical concepts behind the dark and light.
The flame in the void is a concept in the Wheel of Time novels. There's a flame burning in a calm void in your mind. You feed your passions into this flame but contain it in the calm place. You fuel your focus with passions but through containment don't allow them to overcome you. Sith and Jedi philosophies are the Yin and Yang, the active and passive which compliment each other. Without their compliments, both paths lead to an end, whether ruin or stagnation.
In a meeting with the writers of Clone Wars, Lucas again emphasizes the need to suppress nature of the dark side and embracing the light. The balance is acknowledging two tendencies of the nature of the Force, and rejecting the destructive nature. He implies the suppression of the Dark Side was vital. The Jedi were right, the Sith were wrong. We know there can’t be light without dark. That’s a fact. But George wasn’t saying the dark was needed, or necessary, but is a given. Balance always meant not to give in to the selfish tendencies of the Dark Side but embrace the light. By the end of Return of the Jedi, everything is right in the world - until Luke fails to rebuild a meaningful Jedi order, The First Order reigns, and the Dark Side makes its presence known again.
@@youuglymess Yeah, no, you're wrong. Suppressing emotions does nothing good. Any person who took a basic psychology course can tell you that. The person you just responded to has a better understanding of SW than you do. There's even an episode of CW about Yoda realizing that suppressing his darkness only makes it grow. Critical thinking is key.
@@youuglymess ok George, wait , you are not George, why would you think you are so right then? so dogmatic as a catholic and they. forcin gyou to their "good" were even more evil that what they said they fight
@@Einzelgänger In a meeting with the writers of Clone Wars, Lucas again emphasizes the need to suppress nature of the dark side and embracing the light. The balance is acknowledging two tendencies of the nature of the Force, and rejecting the destructive nature. He implies the suppression of the Dark Side was vital. The Jedi were right, the Sith were wrong. We know there can’t be light without dark. That’s a fact. But George wasn’t saying the dark was needed, or necessary, but is a given. Balance always meant not to give in to the selfish tendencies of the Dark Side but embrace the light. By the end of Return of the Jedi, everything is right in the world - until Luke fails to rebuild a meaningful Jedi order, The First Order reigns, and the Dark Side makes its presence known again.
@@Einzelgänger You should have mentioned that Balance is only The Light side and that The Force doesn't work like Ying And Yang, you fooled many people here who know nothing about Starwars and made them believe that One Should embrace light and dark which in Starwars absolutely doesn't make sense at all,The Force isn't Ying and Yang,The Light is The Force and the dark side is a distinct thing.
Thanks!Star Wars introduced me to philosophy and your videos expanded my philosophy knowledge and it's changed my life in so many positive ways. Will you do a Jedi philosophy video in the future?
I feel like Qui Gon is the only one who got it right. The light side is the balance we should all pursue in our lives, but we should also love and care for others we hold dearly, without falling to complete infatuation/obsession. We must be compassionate, but whole on our own.
This is what Lucas has stated repeatedly too. Balance in the force is not balance between light and dark, it’s solely balance in the light. The force IS the light. The ‘darkside’ is not a thing, an independent aspect of the force or a thing in itself. The darkside is the way one uses and explores the force. They embrace and encourage negative emotions, whereas the Jedi attempt to accept the darkness within them (and all other emotions), in order to process them out of the system (Lucas knows how the nervous system works in this way), and so are clear to be able to let the force flow through them, The sith try and control and subdue the force - which the force itself tries to correct, it wants to stop people - like the sith - from corrupting the force, hence creating Anakin to oppose what Sidious and Plageuis were doing. I know there’s lots of EU (or legends now) that interpret the force differently - which is great, and allows different philosophical ideas to be inserted into explanations/interpretations of the force. But the force isn’t a concept that is really open to other interpretations other than it’s creator, if you want to look at it from the perspective of the person that created it. So well this type of video, and others like it are great in bringing in various human philosophies into interpreting the force, ultimately it isn’t what Lucas intended when he came up with his creation.
You know I really want to have a canon version of the Je'daii. For over a thousand years this community existed, and it believed in balance, they were a symbol of hope, bravery, strength, and peace until its Order collapsed due to Extremists of the Light and the Dark growing in popularity leading to 25000 years of constant wars between the Jedi and the Sith. And now in the Ahsoka show, we have Ahsoka and Baylan, both who disapprove of Sith and Jedi traditions but lean towards an ideology. Baylan leans more towards the Sith ideology whereas Ahsoka leans more towards the Jedi ideology. We need more exploration of the motivation of the Sith from their perspective and the beliefs of the Father and his idea and perception of balance.
@@shubhnamdeo2865 I’m a big fan of all the EU stuff (or legends as it’s called now), but you have to remember that those books and comics were written by writers that had their own take on the force. And a-lot of those takes (like the je'daii), do not align with what George Lucas created; his view on the force, his explanation means that you cannot balance light and dark as they are such opposing ways of accessing and using the force that they can’t be used together. Lucas states that balance in the force is the light. The darkside isn’t a thing in itself, isn’t an aspect of the force, but a way force users explore and use the force - they attempt to control and corrupt the force, bending it to their own will, and explore destructive powers fulled by concentrating and cultivating negative emotions when accessing the force. The force has a will of its own though, and seeks to correct this corruption. Essentially Lucas states that the force seeks balance by tying to rid those that try and control and corrupt it, as balance is balance in the light only. Not digging you out at all, and it would be cool to see this type of interpretation on screen, but it would also confuse audiences by doing this (outside of books etc) as it is a view of the force that goes directly against what the creator intended - intended for audiences to understand the force itself, as well as George’s own personal views on life and how we process emotions. This is what informed his creation of the force and the Star Wars universe (it’s also tbf, why others interpret the force differently, as we all hold different outlooks on life, and people often draw from existing philosophy when coming up with their own interpretations. This is cool, and part of why Star Wars, - and particularly the force - has different interpretations to it by fans. However, I do think it important to consider what the creator of it all states when consuming any canon material such as the films and these new Disney shows (let’s all ignore the sequel trilogy though as………well, has there ever been a bigger fuck up in movie history than that ! 😂🙌)
@@westington1 George's views on the force (I think) are similar to the ancient religious and mythological texts. I do agree with you that it would make it quite confusing for the fans. And there is something far worse than the Sequel Trilogy STAR WARS: HOLIDAY SPECIAL. I highly recommend that you check out the holiday special parents' guide on IMDb (specifically the Frightening and Intense scenes section)!
I just watched every second of the most amazingly, ridiculously, surprisingly wonderful documentary on the Force that I've ever seen, & *I AM* Ol' School Star Wars. Many kudos & much applause on making a video that gives even the truest Star Wars fans a treat, & provides the intelligent or perceptive Star Wars fans a wholly stimulating & entertaining half-hour. Seriously great job.
its revenge of the 5th perfect time to see this star wars video for me it was done well n i appreciate the work put into it being a fan of old n new star wars stuff~
Love the mix between real life philosophy and Star Wars lore. More vids like this! This was amazing, I learn more than I thought I would as I love both philosophy and Star Wars.
Jedi philosophy: "I only have value when acting in others' interest. Mine is to sacrifice and deny myself so that others may benefit." Sith philosophy: "I have the right to be happy in my life, and to achieve it through building my own value."
This is the worst pseudo-philosophical nonsense I've ever seen The Sith are outright evil and relish in it; you morons only try to make Sith tied into real life philosophy, and often the good kind, in order to inject your biases
Ahsoka was right to leave the Jedi order. This decision, in my opinion, demonstrated that there is a flaw in what the Jedi taught and believed. Ahsoka had the disadvantage (advantage?) of being Anakin's student. He was constantly emphasizing his desire to protect those he was close to. Ahsoka, in fact, was taught in the final finale episode of TCW, recently released, to defend against a massive clone attack. Anakin was making sure she had what she needed, because he already knew subconsciously, or through the force, what was going to happen, and he wanted to protect her. Ahsoka, like Anakin, cared about her friends and had attachments, which was probably an error in training she inherited from Anakin. This was not allowed in the Jedi order. The Jedi were stoic, and attachment was not allowed. However, Ahsoka had compassion for all life, AND she had deep attachment to her friends. That was the conflict with the Jedi teachings that drove her away. Anakin had attachment to his friends ABOVE the lives of others. He fell and became Vader because he was willing to sacrifice any other life to keep those he wanted to protect alive. This is an anachronism, and directly related to his desire to control (partly due to the lack of control he had as a slave). Ahsoka, however, realized that all life was important, and to be valued. She did not have the traumatic upbringing that Anakin had. But she also cared about her friends and had attacents. In some ways, her views were more pure than those of the Jedi order. She had attachments, and love, but was able to see all life as valuable and not let her attachments take priority. Love, that's an important part of life. If you can't love, how can you truly value life.
You are describing Luke Skywalker. Ahsoka is a copy of him in my view. Luke's attachment for his friends and fear to lose them lead to fail Yoda's Test to stay passive (Empire strikes back). He pursuits his dark side by saving his friends but he should have died fighting against Darth Vader. Only Darth Vader's attachment and love for his son saved Luke. Obi Wan, Yoda, Darth Vader and the Emporer maintained balance in the force. Luke was a disturbance. Leia Organa's call for save triggered the failure and fall of Obi Wan. Obi Wan has Sith in him like we all do. He failed to train Anakin and lost his dear friend. Yoda wouldn't go and save her. Stay passive. I dont like the prequels, because a true Jedi like Yoda wouldn't go to war to save others.
When Jung spoke of getting in touch with our shadow self, surely he meant that we be honest to ourselves about who we are instead of having certain traits and being in denial about having those traits. Only by identifying our worst qualities through self-reflection can we manage and transform them. I'm sure Jung wasn't saying ''be evil''.
@LibVis I think "bad traits sort of simplifies it into black and white" To have a okayish or understanding of it is to see neither as wrong or right and to simply combine the two and use them at different stages during ones life. Aggression is not bad trait, neither is selfishness just outright, there has to be a line drawn inorder to come to such a conclusion weither you were selfish or selfless. The line is what people should hold at, is what I think the video is saying neither putting too much importance or too little importance on yourself. The difficult part is where, when, and how should approach certain situations using these methods, weither it be by violence, Diplomacy, importance on yourself and putting importance elsewhere.
Correct. Jungian shadow integration revolves around confronting the worst aspects of yourself, "your shadow", and integrating them into your consciousness as a whole as a way of overcoming your ego. It's more about confronting the negative aspects of you, and successfully integrating them so that it serves the harmonious whole of your consciousness. He erred far more on the side of selflessness, balance, harmony, and humility before the Universal Consciousness/God/The All/whatever.
It's all about transcending the two sides. Imbalance is the real enemy. Your reason can contain your passions and your passions can drive you to purpose. That's why sometimes risk from your passions can lead you to where you need to be and it's not always the rational way to do things
This is why I like Jedi survivors story. Cal rejects parts of Jedi teaching that’s unhelpful or damaging, and even taps into his emotions, the dark side. So while cal is definitely good, he isn’t what a Jedi would charectically (?) be
I have never watched even a single one film of Star Wars. The videos you made about them really tempt me to do so. I believe that these films demonstrate the duality that exists in our world. It may be in another dimension or galaxy, but it is still duality. Where there is duality, there is separation. When we become one with God, or the Force, or the Source, or whatever name each has for this, then we understand and feel that we are all ONE. When we finally feel and realize that each one is the Love that knows that is the Love already, the separation and the conflict ends.
Actually, the movies will probably ruin your love for Star Wars if you go into the movies expecting something deep and philosophical like this video. Half of the lightsaber colours in the movies were really because actor choices or lighting issues (Luke's green saber in the original trilogy) (Windu's purple saber in the prequels), though we can say all we want about the philosophical and character of each colour, it didn't start out that way, and it's an odd coincidence and sometimes a stretch that it all fixes together.
This is one of the greatest philosophies videos I’ve ever watched . Not only for Jedi/Sith philosophy (which I am a huge fan of) but also the philosophy of human nature and the psychology of man. The way you connected it to nietzsche philosophy and stoicism and many other examples is absolutely brilliant. We all must embrace some form of our dark side to escape the slave mentality. Bcuz if we give in to excessive self-sacrifice, we in turn lose power towards our full potential. My mind is absolutely blown from this Gem of a video. You just earned yourself a new subscriber. Please keep it coming!
Einzelganger, I may be too late, and I've no doubt that this will be both sappy and cringe, so apologies in advance for that. I merely wanted to thank you for this video, honestly and sincerely. I became fascinated with Sith philosophy during a period of self improvement in my life. It was Sith philosophy that led me to study Jungian psychology and real world philosophies, Nietzsche and Stoicism especially, in hopes of expanding upon it. Your videos were of particular interest to me at that time. It was also the Sith that made me change my goal of self improvement to self actualization. I fell off my path awhile ago, having entered a dark period of my life, and much of the knowledge I acquired has been forgotten, but I'm coming out of it and will find my way again soon. Like you said at 22:10, this path probably isn't the one that suits me, as my personal dark night revealed to me, but though the Sith, Jung and Nietzsche may no longer resonate with me, I think there's too much value in the knowledge they passed on to simply ignore. I don't intend to follow them dogmatically (I honestly believe that God, the divine, source or whatever word you have for it won't allow me to even if I wanted), nor do I believe it possible or have any desire to become a lighting wielding maniac, but I believe there are some aspects of their philosophy I can apply to better myself, and certain points brought up about master and slave morality to reflect on, though not believe entirely. Once again, sorry for the rant, but I've had to make due with links on the Sith Order reddit (don't judge me), and 2 videos on TH-cam to feed my fascination of the Sith, a reuploaded video by Coterie, and an analysis on Kreia's philosophy. I never expected you to make a video like this, so this was nothing less than a very pleasant surprise and an absolute treat. 😁 Oh, and before anyone worries for me, yes, I may be a nerd but not so far gone I can't separate reality from fiction. The Star Wars universe may hold my fascination, but I fully intend to live my life in the real world. Don't know why, but I felt like I needed to add that.
Rob A Oh thank you for sharing your experience. Not a rant at all. I hope he (the Dutchman who makes these great vids) reads what you wrote. You sound like a WINNER to me. You'll do great. And thanks for helping me understand better the ppl who are Star Wars fans. Stay unafraid and remember love. 😊 ✌
What I love about star wars' philosophy is that in the end, Darth Vader did bring balance to the force, being the ultimate image of evil in the whole universe, but in his death bed, redeeming himself by the love of his son. That turns him in to the ultimate beacon of hope, it's never too late to seek inner peace and the good inside each one of us.
not to mention he actually did bring balance to the force by eliiminating both Sith and Jedi. Always bothered me how the Jedi interpretted that prophecy (balance) as eradicating the dark side.
@@siddm11Ugh, this again. Lucas already confirmed that bringing balance to the force meant destroying the Sith. They are considered a cancer on the Force. Feel free to look it up if you don't believe me.
@@siddm11 This isn’t true. Darth Sidious was largely the corrupting force of the prequels. It wasn’t that the Jedi were bad or wrong. The duel of the fates is about how if qui gon dies that starts anakin on his path without a father figure (Obi wan being his brother) to the dark side. The other fate being qui Gon lives and he’d be saved from the dark side bc he’s a good master for him. That’s why it’s called duel of the fates. Anakin already had a rough upbringing and was already bitter and too old. It was just not going to go well already. It was destiny. And frankly the jedi masters did what worked for the majority of every jedi ever but again, were clouded by Palpatine. They failed, but they failed in a way that was inevitable. It’s not as if jedi fail the light side is wrong lmao
I got the feeling that by teaching Anakin to suppress his emotions Joda pushed him straight to the Sith as suppressing emotions is a very unhealthy thing to do.
The dark side and light side is fiction. The dark side in Star Wars is more than just evil. To a force user it is a drug like herroin. Once a force user begins to go to the dark side it creates some sort of addiction that engulfs the dark side user with crazy mood swings that take over.
Victor Good idea. We must love who we are totally. That's one of the lessons of being human. Another human lesson is learning to love others which is almost impossible if one gives in to their dark side.
This is stupid dualistic nonsense. There is no 'shadow self.' There is no 'light self.' Shadow is an absence of light. You cannot have both; you can only be lacking the 'good' quality. The dark side is a cancer in the force; to 'balance' the force means to remove this cancer and only have a 'light' side.
I really liked the video. Specially in the end, where you make some conclusions and quote Kreia (one of My favourite characters in SW) and the part of dark side's pitfalls. I think only Revan and Kreia understood the wisdom in knowing both light and dark side of the Forcé.
I rarely or never leave comments but I thought that this video was amazing and incredibly well done so I felt obligated to say something. Very well done
What a fascinating and comprehensive analysis, I’ve probably listened to this maybe 5 times now? and am still trying to fully understand such a view. As a fan of Star Wars from literal and metaphysical point of view I applaud and thank you for explaining such a topic like this which is not so simple.
It was a very thought provoking video. Nietsche had a point when saying that we are forced to abandon the 'master attitude' towards life. However, I think it is wise to abandon the paradigm of power and affirmation (at some point). These are useful when we establish ourselves as young adults but become self-defeating later on. Hanging on to power and affirmation requires constant feeding, which is basically a slavery of the realm of hungry ghosts.
George Lucas stated in “Empire of Dreams” that the Jedi Code was based upon the philosophical tenants of Buddhism and Stoicism. Also the Jedi/Sith are the Yin/Yang. Neither is all good nor bad. Extreme aestheticism leads to stagnation which is why the Jedi were so easily fooled. Their refusal to accept that they didn’t have all the answers led to their downfall. Mace Windu (when it’s suggested by Qui Gon Jinn that the individual he fought on Tattooine was a Sith) arrogantly states “I don’t believe that the Sith could have returned without our knowledge). Qui Gon Jinn on the other hand followed the living Force and not as Palpatine stated “the dogmatic ideals of the Jedi,” (when speaking to Anakin upon revealing his identity as Darth Sidious). Eventually Luke Skywalker saw that neither of the two codes were balanced. The Jedi encouraged love while forbidding attachment, yet their attachment to their ideals is what caused their downfall. The Sith craved power for its own sake by any means necessary even if that means destroyed the psyche (as in Anakin’s actions at the Jedi Temple) and Palpatine’s patricide before becoming a Sith apprentice. In the now non-canon novels (specifically the Yuzon Vong war) Luke teaches his students both disciplines but warns them of extremes which will lead to their destruction. In the Clone Wars we meet the Father, Son and Daughter who epitomize the different sides of the Force and the balance that must be maintained between the two.
That was a very well put together video that I completely agree with. It's easy to see how the Je'daii had the right idea. Maintain balance in the light and dark. We need the dark side to be able confident in our own skills, defend ourselves, protect those we love and get ahead in life. At the same time, we need the light to remain calm, remember that it's important to help others, and work together so we can all get ahead in life. Balance. Creation and destruction. Nature.
I never felt like Vader was really bought into the Sith. He got stuck with it and had to make the best of it. He was hugely a dark side user no doubt, but I never saw anything that made me think he really committed to the sith doctrine like Sideous was.
I couldn't help but think a lot about Taoist philosophy during this one! I'm glad you showed the contrast between these while also showing that they compliment each other in many ways and that taking either too far can be detrimental. This is why I love Taoism so much, because it reminds me that there must be balance to everything if it is to truly benefit us, and believing anything to the extreme can lead to disastrous consequences! Great video! 👍
If I remember correctly the force was actually based on Taoism, I think George chose it as a way to introduce different ways of thinking to the Western world
@@ianmckenna6146 interesting for sure, but he kinda failed then..... He basically took the concept and completely reversed it. There's absolutely nothing counter intuitive or balanced about the actual message that the movies put forth
@@ianmckenna6146 I think it was zen Buddhism, not Toaism. Balance is the light, Lucas has said that, it's why one of Star Wars' core themes is letting go.
I see a value of both, if one is looking for true balance. If you run to extremes "light or dark" you'll end up with the same effect. A person should explore both side without being too embraced to either side or they could miss the universe.
A sith mentality will cause the individual to be shackled to their own power and influence, for they must maintain the shroud which hides the key to their power as once it is no longer hidden another will use the opportunity to take it for themselves. To acheive true freedom one must embrace all aspects to the sense they hold enough power to not be dominated nor in exess where one must dominate another. Balance is where true power exists. There must be both dark and light. I will do what I must to keep the balance, as the balance is what holds all life. There is no good without evil, but evil must not be allowed to flourish. There is passion, yet peace; serenity, yet emotion; chaos, yet order. - The gray code
That is a great episode - thank you. I only have one thought to share - life itself, complex as it is, can force us to act like a Sith, even if the core of our nature is appolonian.
OK, I'm listening to this a second time, to me stoicism has been a great tool to free myself from so many worries and fears, but there's a part of me that is very materialistic and really enjoys some luxuries and wealth in general. It's been hard to reconcile both ways of thinking, sometimes they feel like a watch with a gear train that don't really fit. Maybe this video will provide some insight into the matter. Thanks a lot friend!
I really enjoyed this from start to end. I think I've been going through something of a personal "villain arc" lately and I definitely can see the value in the "dark" side of one's self... though with most things, a balance of both dark and light is clearly needed. Really good video. :)
Dark is an absence of light; there is no 'balance' between light and dark. Only fools think in such dualistic terms. Evil and Good aren't opposites; evil is an absence of Good.
Following the "jedi way" led me to stagnation and depression. I felt like I was spiritual, but there was a part of me I was repressing, the part that wants to express its will, to achieve, to gain confidence, grow, and become stronger. Repressing my desires, I realized, is repressing my humanity. Once I started to integrate this part of me, while always remembering compassion, love, and presence of mind, I started to progress. I firmly belief integrating both the "good " and "bad" part of ourselves is crucial. An example I always use is that for most of my life, I despised people who dressed well because I viewed them as vain and superficial. I thought clothes were simply functional. Turns out that not only do I like to dress well. I love it lol. I now see the value in expressing myself and standing out. I respect myself and want to look great. This is a much more nuanced view in my instead "you of dress good you vain". There really isn't anything wrong with dressing well. This applies to other things.
"In Marienburg a man can find anything he desires, and many things he doesnt." Thats the quote this brought to my mind. The dark side can bring you everything your heart desires, and everything you fear most, both at the same time. That is afterall, the fullness of life. Sheer ectasy and abject terror.
The sith basically take self improvement and catapult it to an extreme. "I will triumph, and I don't care what happens to everyone else". This is why they are evil.
This isn't just "evil" it's selfish as well because The Sith don't care about anyone else but themselves. A classic case in point is when Anakin asks for the lowering of the ship when Padme falls out. "...I need her..." is his argument to counter Obi Wan. His relationship with Padme was never about the both if them it was always about him.
But then it turns into not being self improvement, when those same Sith Lords fall so deep into the dark side that they become physically and mentally disfigured. Darth Sion was practically holding himself together, only alive because his hatred allowed him to survive, and the moment he let go of his hatred, he died.
The council pushed him to Palpatine, if anything. Had they not been so dogmatic in their practices and had some nuance in their approach to the literal Chosen One of prophecy, Vader wouldn’t have ever happened.
@@weekendgunviolenceor the Chosen One was Vader and not Anikan. When the story was first written for 4-6, there were only 2 jedi (Obi Wan and Yoda) and 2 sith (Vader and Palpatine). 2 and 2, balance in the number of force users.
This was Definitely worth my time! I feel there's a balancing point between both extremes; like the anti-hero position for example. Excellent presentation!
I have followed your teachings? Presentations? Sharings? for a long time -always with respect, admiration, and appreciation. This particular one struck me as the best yet. It integrates so much that you have covered before, and integrates in the mythological and archetypal metaphors which somehow make it particularly impactful. Timely for me, thank you for that. 🙏
Obviously they are both partially right. I struggled a lot mentally some time ago trying to understand how to reconcile these two apparent opposites of passion/rationality, risk/prudence and so on. How to choose between them, or how to reconcile such opposite things? Then it came into my mind that they aren't opposite at all, they are in fact complementary, and I thought of a simple metaphor: we just have to drive ourselves though the tortuous path of life, therefore we obviously need both the gas pedal and the breaks. We need passion to fuel our engine, or we won't go anywhere and just stand still, but we also need the breaks of reason and calmness for bending properly, for being cautious in difficult parts of the road and for ultimately not crashing. Who would be so crazy to drive a car without any fuel or without any breaks? Mastering this driving is the real indivual challenge I think, and it's what also Taoism ultimately tries to teach, but of course then socially and politically it becomes more complicated perhaps, even though democracy is also kind of based on the tension between these two forces in a way :)
A mixture of the Light and Dark Side of the Force is needed. THAT is true balance in the Force. This is why both orders nearly died out. They both stubbornly refused to adapt and acknowledge the entirety of the Force. The Jedi of the Old Republic gave into their own beauracracy, contempt, and ego. The Sith gave into their insatiable hunger for power and their stubborn behavior. Both orders chose to deny the other side of the Force they followed. The Jedi suppressed all emotion and any personal happiness, which is eventually what drove Anakin Skywalker to turn to the Dark Side. The Sith, on the other hand, embraced all passions and emotions, let their emotions and passions consume them and use the Force and their abilities for entirely selfish or sinister reasons. In short, I believe both orders represented the Light and Dark Side, but to unwavering extremes. By acknowledging your emotions, but not letting them control you, could one truly find balance in the Force, and that trying to quantify the Force into a black-and-white reality is not really the true nature of the Force. Edit: Sorry, went on a bit of a rambling tangent there, LOL.
I fully agree with your hypothesis ... Which is the main reason my favorite Star Wars character is Revan ... A Jedi turned Sith Lord turned one with the Force
Honestly, I agree with the statement: "We must concur ourselves, our enemies and destroy everything that stands in our way, become our own masters and let no one rule over us"
"The strong must rule while the weak don't deserve anything, but being dictated. Fear is the primary tool for keeping the subjects in line. The strong rule. The weak are meant to serve." We are seeing this more and more.
It is the natural hierarchy of an aloof life. If the meek don't take responsibility for the correct and fair management of their productivity and collective needs, the people who rule them will always do whatever they want because they've been delegated the power to do just that. The strong will always be strong no matter if they participate in a corrupt system where they misappropriate resources from a craven populace, or fairly gain the just rewards for their superlative qualities.
@@Stroggoii But in a system in which resources are being unfairly distributed from a craven populace to those without necessarily superlative qualities we are not seeing a natural hierarchy predicated on the supremacy of strength and vitality, but one predicated on the traits of dishonesty and selfishness, both of which are slave qualities by the way. What you are espousing is the slave’s contortion and misinterpretation of “master morality” after thousands of years of effective subversion have sufficiently watered down the master’s cultural systems enough for the mercantile and slovenly (the slavish) to impose themselves atop a hierarchy already deeply perverted in their image and bent specifically to cater their natively and insidiously leeching disposition. Let us see how real that strength is when the Police and Military turn against you. And they will. They are doing so already. The wheels have been long set in motion. And what has been done cannot be undone. Good luck.
I align with Revan Reborn and Lord Scourge. The world is grey. You are your own temple. You are both evil and good. How far you lean to each side is up to you. Can leverage both to be powerful.
The Dark Side can best be described with a line from Blade 2, "Cancer with a purpose". In short, the more you gain power in the Dark Side, the greater the cancer grows. You can gain great power, wealth, influence in more using the Dark Side, but it comes at a high price.
Apart from the references already used in the video, I think it's worth integrating Nassim Taleb’s duality of fragility and antifragility has measurements of how one thing responds to randomness/stressors. Not only passion, but overcome threat is what also empowers the sith. The siths basically want to be the alpha, the top of the food chain, evolution's magnum opus.
And the Universe presents its subjects with threats whether or not they rise with initiative to meet them. The Yodas of the Jedi order can sit and pontificate in their chamber on Coruscant about the “dangers of the passions” under a fabric of protection provided by an Empire whose leaders are Sith. Only one of the “two sides” of the force is proactive; the other is reactive. One comes first, always has and always will. The other must only ever live in its shadow. I’ll allow you to guess which one is which. Don’t get me wrong, Palpatine _was_ cruel, manipulative, and maliciously evil: not just evil as in wilfully and potently destructive (passionately destructive for destruction’s sake), but _maliciously evil_ as in intentionally targeting creative and vital subjects for destruction simply to relish in their anguish (Anakin for one, Luke later on). The destruction of the good for the sake of the act itself while relishing in that very act- Palpatine was a sadist by definition. He was cunning, deceptive, ruthless, and delighted in using others to extend his own political and effective powers. He was a manipulator and an egoist, a “narcissist” of a kind, and insatiably evil. And yet, without him the Jedi would have nothing to do but to sit cross-legged in their throne room staring gormlessly into Coruscant’s cloud-scattered and sun-bleached vistas for ever more, or stealing bright young boys from the arms of their beloved mothers only to treat those boys with suspicion and derision, perhaps fulfilling the very prophecies they hypocritically lament? The Jedi are pathetic nihilists without the Sith, yet destructive hypocrites when fighting them. The irony is Palpatine- I mean palpable!! The only reason western audiences so blindly accept the Sith and Empire as the bad guys is because we’ve become so dispassionately nihilistic that we are already effectively monks- thus, only a “good guy” practicing a Buddhist’s ascetic life-denial appeals to our contemporary sensibilities.
@@seliamila1005 Thanks man. I’ll add to the above that I don’t think the Jedi are _good_ either (although they believe they are). I think Anakin was good, broke bad, and became evil. And I also think that both good and evil are better than stupidity, nihilism, Jediism, and especially narcissism. The reason I think that is because both good and evil move the world, and sing a story together. The four dispositions after it are parasitic, and rely on the motions of Good and Evil. And parasites are the worst, because “if the host dies…”.
I honestly think you truly cannot have one without the other. They seem like contradictory forces when they are in fact complimentary. That’s where enlightenment and authenticity lead us.
The use of the dark sid te does not make one evil nor does the use of the light side make one good. The dark side is powered by passion, it just so happens that rage is the most common and easiest form of passion. In the real world i have found that passion is a very useful in achieving goals, although if you dont keep it in check your passion can get away from you and destroy everything you have built
Hilariously for the longest time when I was a kid I started going through the philosophy of sith, I ended up building a cult of personality and having to tell my friends to stop after I got over my larger-than-life edgelord phase We built a protection racket and beat up bullies
Thanks for this thoughtful video! I find it difficult to fully subscribe to one philosophy. I prefer peace and contentment over competition and achievement, but to be devoid of passion and not feel anger at injustice or upon witnessing the suffering of others, that's not quite right either. Balance is needed. Otherwise, one would just become completely powerless and uncaring. Disengaged and removed from the world.
There isnt anything like gray force users since u have to choose one or the other , or u are in the light side or in the dark side, the concept is fan made and have no real value in sw universe.
@@uwucotc Yea gray force users are more of a title given to Jedi and sith who don’t wanna call themselves Jedi or sith, in reality, all gray force users are one or another, Ashoka, quinlin vos and Jolee bindo, are self proclaimed gray force users, but are Jedi at heart Assaj ventress, kreia, are sith at heart. They difference between gray force users, and jedi & sith, is that gray force users accept a tiny bit of wisdom from the other spectrum, but not very much, just a tiny bit. So in a sense, gray force users don’t really exist, there are only gray Jedi and gray sith.
@@themelon_1785 It's too bad a middle ground doesn't exist, but that would be the hardest path to walk of all, because it would require a balancing act of what we would generally constitute as "good" and "evil". A group of force users who are motivated by passion, yet said passions become constrained when they interfere with lets say the "rights" of another individual, as not to produce harm to others in the pursuit of their passion. They accept the Sith Code as truth, but choose to live in opposition of it. Whereas Jedi justify the use of force to protect the rights of the majority, and Sith justify the use of force to pursue their passions, this group would solely be interested in the use of force to prevent the overreach of the tyrannical individual, focusing on said individual and not necessarily the consequences of corruption which effect the community
No such thing as a gray force user. It is ultimately a binary choice, you either follow the will of the Force or you disregard the will of the Force and follow to your own whims. To do both is to contradict the law of non-contradiction. In the words of the Islamic Philosopher Avicenna: “Anyone who denies the law of non-contradiction should be beaten and burned until he admits that to be beaten is not the same as not to be beaten, and to be burned is not the same as not to be burned.”
@@epistemo3442 I know this isn't really part relevant to what your saying, but what if I was a force user in a wasteland where Evil and Unlawlessness exists as it is everywhere in the land and I give in to my own anger not out of bitterness but rather to Utilise it to protect the ones whom I love or those who can't protect themselves and to banish those who are the ones causing evil towards the Land? What do you call that kind of force user does that align to anything light or dark? I'm not trying to be a contrarian or anything I'm just curious.
"We Sith are an unseen opposition. A phantom menace. Where the Sith once wore armour, we now wear cloaks. But the force works through us all the more powerfully in our invisibility. For the present, the more covert we remain, the more influence we can have. Our revenge will be achieved not through subjugation but by contagion.”-Darth Tenebrous to Darth Plagueis.
_"Twice we have tried to burn away the failures and hypocrisies of the Jedi. Twice we have failed. We must not fail again, for there is precious little tinder left.....to keep our fire burning"_
This essay could have been even deeper with some further analysis about Ahsoka and the middle path of buddhism, one of the greatest influences for the Jedi code.
Jedi and Sith Philosophy is one of the reasons why I think Star Wars is such a well written story
Lucas has said he based it on Buddhism, so that could also explain why it's held up for 40+ years.🙂
Joseph Campbell inspired and helped Lucas write Star Wars, based on myths and tales. Path of the Hero, light and dark and so on.
True Star Wars is no longer the same these days
In a meeting with the writers of Clone Wars, Lucas again emphasizes the need to suppress nature of the dark side and embracing the light. The balance is acknowledging two tendencies of the nature of the Force, and rejecting the destructive nature. He implies the suppression of the Dark Side was vital.
The Jedi were right, the Sith were wrong. We know there can’t be light without dark. That’s a fact. But George wasn’t saying the dark was needed, or necessary, but is a given. Balance always meant not to give in to the selfish tendencies of the Dark Side but embrace the light.
By the end of Return of the Jedi, everything is right in the world - until Luke fails to rebuild a meaningful Jedi order, The First Order reigns, and the Dark Side makes its presence known again.
You all know nothing about Starwars, watch one video that is wrong but sounds right and believe it's fact
I believe that a fusion of both light and dark is needed. One isnt a slave just because you care for others, and one is not merely evil just because they are focusing on themselves. Black and white thinking is foolishness. It must flow together.
We are like the master operator of a diversion dam.
We decide the direction and quantities of that contained mixture.
Its basically Carl Jung shadow work
Like Darth revan
Yin and Yang. Both are best.
So basically a gray jedi and thinking black and white is not always foolish
Ironically Anakin pursued power and became a sith at least in part because he was seeking greater freedom-he felt restricted and inhibited by the Jedi, and he was haunted by his childhood experiences in slavery-and to free himself from fear of loss, another remnant from his troubled childhood. But by becoming a sith he found only slavery to the dark side and even greater loss.
He was just looking for knowledge to save Padme. On his journey though, he got consumed by the power he has gained and lost his way sadly. What started as a journey to save his loved one, tragically ended with his downfall.
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he was destined to balance to the force, he had to lose and be lost to the dark side to save luke in the return of the jedi and bring Balance as was destined by Qui Con
@@BeastGohan40 that’s convoluted. I don’t think he had to go dark, but even though he did, his destiny was still fulfilled.
@@nettewilson5926 No, he had, because he needed to destroy Jedi too. Jedi who become corrupted and a tool in politics, and not a guardian of peace. In case of Anakin, he needed to wipe the slate clean in both orders, as Outcast done thousands of years ago under Kreia guidance.
@@austinno.1 wtf..
Darth Vectivus is one of my favorite characters because even though he’s a sith he’s balanced and uses the dark side without letting it consume him. He also still felt and showed compassion and care for his loved ones. Proof that not all dark side users are evil.
I just recently learned about him, he's one if not the only sith who enjoys reading and taking care of his family financially, he only became sith so he could use lightning efficiently. Very good man
@@davelo3506 yep. Him and Revan are probably my favorite Sith.
@@Chris_MarMar holy shit same here bro, fun fact did you know Reven looks exactly like Keanu Reeves ?
@@davelo3506 I’ve known of Revan for a long time now (since I originally played KOTOR) but yes I do now. Honestly, that just makes him even more badass imo lol. Revan is my favorite character in general, Sith or Jedi. Makes sense considering he’s both and or neither.
If you like Revan you may also like Darth Marr, a member of the dark council but he was more balanced and level headed than the others
The Philosophy of the Sith is like the embodiment of ''You are the captain of your own ship.'' or "Your mind is a battlefield. Be its commander, not its soldier" or ''Putting yourself above others.'' which have positive advantages because it encourages individuals to stand up for yourselves, build self-reliance and freedom of choice.
Agree.
Problem is on the Earth we live in it's the Siths that are rich and successful
@@destroyerarmor2846 Has it always been?
@@chrisjackson1889 Yes it has. Power has always gone to the ambitious, ruthless & capable. You'll find the meek & compassionate amongst the ranks of the slaves. This is doubly so in Greco-Roman times, before Christianity's interpretation of morality started to blow up.
@@chrisjackson1889 I mean really try to think about the 4-5 individuals who have done purely selfless acts for the sake of others purely
Obi-wan: “Only a Sith deals in absolutes”
That statement in itself is an absolute
It’s an example of paradoxical truth. Much like ‘the only constant is change’
Plot twist.. Obi-wan is a Sith lord.....
Maybe he was trying to tell us something...
@@Blackwingsss that eventually even the good becomes corrupted?
@@clxwncrxwn Obi-Wan trained Darth Vader so....
The sith would honestly be unstoppable if they learn how to control their emotions and their lust for power that would lead them to their downfall. That’s why in my opinion, count dooku was such a powerful character; he is able to use busted force abilities like more aggressive lightsaber forms and force lighting while having the discipline and control to not let himself get too corrupted by the dark side. Unlike most sith, he was able to make rational decisions and not get himself into the inevitable death of all sith from their uncontrolled lust for power.
Funny enough one of aspects of Kreia's teachings.
So true, that's why he doesn't have the Sith eyes. Every other Sith lets hate dominate them, Dooku uses it when necessary. Bro was lowkey closer to a grey jedi than to a sith. He turned for altruistic reasons after all. Sorely underutilized character by Lucas.
He still thought he could overthrow Sidious
He still lost his mind, literally
Dooku was a loser who lacked the willpower to fully embrace either side, so he ends up dead with little-to-no achievements & the universe remembering him as little more than a squabbling senator; if they remember him at all. He quite literally didn't achieve shit in comparison to the Sith which "let themselves get too corrupted by the dark side" & is ultimately wiped out with ease by the plans of such a Sith. Guess he should've had a bit more hate in em lmao
In order to understand how good you are, you need to realize how evil you could be.
That's not true at all, knowing how evil you can be will change nothing, currently you said that "inspiring" line,but in your real life you are still a no one
@@youuglymess you don't have to be a somebody to be evil or good, you know.
What defines us as people is our behavior when we know we won't ever gain any sort of recognition for our actions.
@@youuglymess being evil is not being powerfull. That mistake is formed in holliwood followers minds
@@javierperez-xo8mr The reason the dark side is more powerful (both in Star Wars and life) is that it gives you more possibilities.
As a 'good' person you can't do 'bad' things, but you can do 'good' things as a 'bad' person, especially if it serves you a goal in the end. So naturally, most CEOs and managers are more likely to score high on psychopathy...
Up to the point that psychopathy is a better predictor of success than IQ.
@@NoNamer123456789 that makes no sense
"Good is a point of view, Anakin..." this single line from Palpatine summarises the reasons behind the whole Jedi-Sith conflict. We view the Jedi as good because the movies are told from a 'jedi-friendly' point of view. Would be amazing to have a movie with a Sith point of view.
I 100% agree, that woud be amazing!
Yeah!!!! It would be very interesting.
But... If You read between the lines, in episode i,ii,iii, You see the error in the Jedi ways
If havent play Knights of the old republic II. There You Will SEE the Jedi ways greatly put in doubt.
@@Sinuhe38 yes. This is why I think we need movies from the Sith point of view. So that these are not subtle details, but evidence that the Jedi way can mislead ...
I always found it funny that Plagueis and Sidious were so hung up on the idea that the Dark Side can be *Concentrated* , as if it was venom, by limiting the # of Dark Side practitioners.
Vitiate was *at least* as powerful as Tenebrous or Plagueis, yet the Sith Emperor lived and reigned at a time when powerful Dark Siders existed in the *thousands* !
Plagueis just comes out and states this rationale for the Rule of Two, but not even Bane offered anything resembling a factual basis for such a belief. His reasons for instituting the Rule of Two was simply a common-sense recognition that Dark Siders would always and invariably consider other Dark Siders rivals who threatened their own power.
Bane was just trying to prevent a repeat of the clusterfuck that was the Brotherhood of Darkness. (Ie: When the Sith become the enemy of good order throughout the galaxy in a *highly visible manner* , the Jedi are invariably given a mandate to direct the Reoublic’s resources against the Sith.)
The TLDR version? Bane’s Rule of Two was intended to ensure there wouldn’t be a horde of militant, highly competent/experienced Jedi Lords/Ladies to resist Sith aggression. All this “The Dark Side is more powerful when less people use it” is nothing but blind cultish mysticism.
I think you misunderstood what Plagueis meant. I believe he wasn't so much speaking of an individual's power so much as one's knowledge. Knowledge in the Force in a very real way equates into greater power, and more Sith means the more spread out that knowledge will become, making each Sith far weaker than they could of been.
@@BlankEmporium How does that work? Less overall practitioners means less experimentation/innovation, and greater chances of a huge body of lore being lost at one time.
Plagueis knew such a loss of lore was possible, because Darth Gravid’s attempted return to the Light Side (And subsequent attempt to destroy all the Rule of Two-era’s accrued Dark Side lore) was passed down by Gravid’s apprentice (Who prevented a complete lore-blanking by killing her master.)
Plagueis was himself a researcher, so he should have understood all individuals doing “original” research are standing on the proverbial shoulders of their predecessors.
Even Caedus’s mistress, Lumiya, pointed out that the Sith are limited as much by their paranoia as any constraint of circumstances.
How do you reconcile all that with the idea the “Venom” is meant to represent lore, not overall power in the Dark Side?
I totally agree @shawn it only makes sense that the rule of two was made to limit the amount of craziness that would no doubt transpire like the brotherhood of darkness. All the venom talk is stupid, the force is the force. It’s not light or dark. Tbh I would even call the dark side “dark” I would call it the uncontrollable side of the force.
While the light side is the more explored controllable aspects (and mind you those controllable aspects are different for various ppls/species). That’s exactly why the Jedi aren’t even good. They just happen not to go to crazy vile every time the use the force, unlike the sith.
The Rule of Two has always been flawed it took 1000 years to gain 20 years of power, 130 years later Darth Krayt would cast aside the Rule Of Two rebuilding the Sith as One and proved arguably was as powerful as Palpatine, I mean he was the only Sith to literally escape and avoid death by WILLING himself back to life with Dark Transfer. The Rule Of Two is the legacy of a mad man who wished to never be forgotten atleast that's what I've come to view it as.
Arguably the force doesn't favor people based on numbers but devotion which is why I've always preferred Lord Momin's Philosophy on the Darkside of the Force.
More like an attempt to concentrate all knowledge and power in a single locus.
It's a way of forcing practicioners to strive for excellence and be the best they can be. The master owes his apprentice power and knowledge. The apprentice loyalty.
When either does not fulfill their side of the bargain they are executed. Thus the remainder gets stronger.
Kreia is the embodiment of Nietzsche's philosophy in SW. She's a brilliantly written character that deconstructs the tenets if Star Wars itself.
Kreia was the best character in star wars, in my humble opinion.
@@Lua-420Hertz Your humble opinion is a fact.
@@Lua-420Hertz She's not that good tho,she invented most of what she said because she wanted to Manipulate the main character of the game "you", you all know nothing about Starwars and how The Force works
@@youuglymess Says the wannabe purist.
@@Lua-420Hertz You didn't even play Kotor 2 yet you come before me calling me a purist
I love this concept, David Goggins has something similar which he calls "Going into the Dark Room" to find yourself and I agree, the Darkness is exactly what I need and it's helped me make some of my biggest strides. Love your channel, bro!
Is there a way to learn this power?
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Not from a Jedi
*smiles*
Salute, Big Boss.
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Right back at ya, my friend. I'm Big Boss and you are too 🔥
Stop pushing authoritarian bullshit on internet; fascism is already a huge problem in world as it is.
In my 20s, I behaved like a Sith, or at least like Dionysus: Work the hardest, get the most toys, Play harder, Win at all costs, and Feel everything! In my 40s, I behaved like a Jedi: Stay Calm, Find Peace, Renounce possessions, Winning isn't real, Accomplish Logic. Now, I'm almost 50 and just try to synthesize the two into Wisdom.✌🎋
Not much to say except for, impressive
Winning isn't real? That's crazy
@@Poussyeater-w5e
There was an episode of "Brain Games" on the Discovery Channel years ago that explored this concept. It never occurred to me, but even when our favorite team wins, it doesn't really mean anything in the bigger picture, bc the world turns and the game will be replayed. It was really fascinating.✌
What did you do in your 30's?
@@hamstertrail5437
I became a parent. Nothing alters the selfish/Sith side like having to sacrifice everything to care for another.
Jedi = Freedom of the Mind, freedom from concern
Sith = Freedom of Choice, freedom to live & be true to oneself
But Choice requires the Mind, and living requires concern to keep on living as a precaution.
@@SchwabGames2014
Freedom of choice does not require freedom of the mind, and living doesn't require precaution nor concern. If anything, focusing so much on mind, caution & concern completely sabotages one's freedom of choice, because said "freedom of mind" brings about the fear of losing that "freedom of mind" and thus causing paralysis, passiveness & stasis in the name of avoiding that fear.
Give up the fear of losing the mind - be like an animal - and suddenly one is far more free in what they can choose to do, not on the leash of one's mind / awareness / preservation.
@@DBArtsCreators Without the mind, you can't make the action of choice. Choice requires the mind to even happen in the first place. Living does require concern because when you're in a life or death situation, you have to be concerned about how you need to survive to prevail.
Fighting, flying, or freezing is a choice the mind must make to satisfy the concerns of living. Depending on the situation, either is valid.
@@SchwabGames2014
Wrong. Things as mindless as viruses, bacteria, fungi, plants, and insects still make choices - not simple reactions, but actual choices of what it interact with or avoid. When such thing are able to make decisions without a mind, it is proven that one especially does not need a "free"/enlightened mind to be able to make choices. One simply needs to be a living creature, and that only requires that you have a functioning body (not thoughts in that body's mind).
Living does not require concern. Regardless of whether or not you are concerned, you will still live. You have no choice in the matter, nor does any other living creature. Until you are killed (by yourself or someone else), you WILL live.
What you are referring (fight, fly, freeze, etc) to is not living - it is self-preservation, and self-preservation is optional. Preservation in general is optional. EVERYTHING one can do with their life and ability is optional. Only those who hold to concerns regarding their mind find their choices restricted. Giving up that freedom of mind/enlightenment gives up those restrictions as well, as one is not restricted by mental guardrails they have not put in place in the first place.
What about The Grey Jedi?
“There is more to the force than restraining its power within the bounds of a moral framework.” This is such a good breakdown & gave me so much more to dig into. Awesome job!
I know that it isn't displayed much in the movies, but the videos games such as KOTOR I and KOTOR II really hone in on the philosophical concepts behind the dark and light.
The flame in the void is a concept in the Wheel of Time novels.
There's a flame burning in a calm void in your mind. You feed your passions into this flame but contain it in the calm place. You fuel your focus with passions but through containment don't allow them to overcome you.
Sith and Jedi philosophies are the Yin and Yang, the active and passive which compliment each other.
Without their compliments, both paths lead to an end, whether ruin or stagnation.
In a meeting with the writers of Clone Wars, Lucas again emphasizes the need to suppress nature of the dark side and embracing the light. The balance is acknowledging two tendencies of the nature of the Force, and rejecting the destructive nature. He implies the suppression of the Dark Side was vital.
The Jedi were right, the Sith were wrong. We know there can’t be light without dark. That’s a fact. But George wasn’t saying the dark was needed, or necessary, but is a given. Balance always meant not to give in to the selfish tendencies of the Dark Side but embrace the light.
By the end of Return of the Jedi, everything is right in the world - until Luke fails to rebuild a meaningful Jedi order, The First Order reigns, and the Dark Side makes its presence known again.
You know nothing about Starwars
@@youuglymess Yeah, no, you're wrong. Suppressing emotions does nothing good. Any person who took a basic psychology course can tell you that. The person you just responded to has a better understanding of SW than you do. There's even an episode of CW about Yoda realizing that suppressing his darkness only makes it grow. Critical thinking is key.
@@youuglymess ok George, wait , you are not George, why would you think you are so right then? so dogmatic as a catholic and they. forcin gyou to their "good" were even more evil that what they said they fight
Never thought Id see someone shoutout Rand Al'Thor lol
Great video. I as an old Star Wars Veteran (who don´t like Disney Star Wars) think it is a masterpiece!
Thank you, that's a great compliment! 🙏
That Disney shit sucks
Thank you for your service!
@@Einzelgänger In a meeting with the writers of Clone Wars, Lucas again emphasizes the need to suppress nature of the dark side and embracing the light. The balance is acknowledging two tendencies of the nature of the Force, and rejecting the destructive nature. He implies the suppression of the Dark Side was vital.
The Jedi were right, the Sith were wrong. We know there can’t be light without dark. That’s a fact. But George wasn’t saying the dark was needed, or necessary, but is a given. Balance always meant not to give in to the selfish tendencies of the Dark Side but embrace the light.
By the end of Return of the Jedi, everything is right in the world - until Luke fails to rebuild a meaningful Jedi order, The First Order reigns, and the Dark Side makes its presence known again.
@@Einzelgänger You should have mentioned that Balance is only The Light side and that The Force doesn't work like Ying And Yang, you fooled many people here who know nothing about Starwars and made them believe that One Should embrace light and dark which in Starwars absolutely doesn't make sense at all,The Force isn't Ying and Yang,The Light is The Force and the dark side is a distinct thing.
Thanks!Star Wars introduced me to philosophy and your videos expanded my philosophy knowledge and it's changed my life in so many positive ways. Will you do a Jedi philosophy video in the future?
I feel like Qui Gon is the only one who got it right. The light side is the balance we should all pursue in our lives, but we should also love and care for others we hold dearly, without falling to complete infatuation/obsession. We must be compassionate, but whole on our own.
Qui-Gon Jinn and Plo Koon are two of my favorite Prequel/Clone Wars Jedi characters. Imo they're some of the best examples of what a Jedi can be.
This is what Lucas has stated repeatedly too. Balance in the force is not balance between light and dark, it’s solely balance in the light.
The force IS the light. The ‘darkside’ is not a thing, an independent aspect of the force or a thing in itself. The darkside is the way one uses and explores the force. They embrace and encourage negative emotions, whereas the Jedi attempt to accept the darkness within them (and all other emotions), in order to process them out of the system (Lucas knows how the nervous system works in this way), and so are clear to be able to let the force flow through them,
The sith try and control and subdue the force - which the force itself tries to correct, it wants to stop people - like the sith - from corrupting the force, hence creating Anakin to oppose what Sidious and Plageuis were doing.
I know there’s lots of EU (or legends now) that interpret the force differently - which is great, and allows different philosophical ideas to be inserted into explanations/interpretations of the force.
But the force isn’t a concept that is really open to other interpretations other than it’s creator, if you want to look at it from the perspective of the person that created it.
So well this type of video, and others like it are great in bringing in various human philosophies into interpreting the force, ultimately it isn’t what Lucas intended when he came up with his creation.
You know I really want to have a canon version of the Je'daii. For over a thousand years this community existed, and it believed in balance, they were a symbol of hope, bravery, strength, and peace until its Order collapsed due to Extremists of the Light and the Dark growing in popularity leading to 25000 years of constant wars between the Jedi and the Sith. And now in the Ahsoka show, we have Ahsoka and Baylan, both who disapprove of Sith and Jedi traditions but lean towards an ideology. Baylan leans more towards the Sith ideology whereas Ahsoka leans more towards the Jedi ideology. We need more exploration of the motivation of the Sith from their perspective and the beliefs of the Father and his idea and perception of balance.
@@shubhnamdeo2865 I’m a big fan of all the EU stuff (or legends as it’s called now), but you have to remember that those books and comics were written by writers that had their own take on the force. And a-lot of those takes (like the je'daii), do not align with what George Lucas created; his view on the force, his explanation means that you cannot balance light and dark as they are such opposing ways of accessing and using the force that they can’t be used together.
Lucas states that balance in the force is the light. The darkside isn’t a thing in itself, isn’t an aspect of the force, but a way force users explore and use the force - they attempt to control and corrupt the force, bending it to their own will, and explore destructive powers fulled by concentrating and cultivating negative emotions when accessing the force.
The force has a will of its own though, and seeks to correct this corruption.
Essentially Lucas states that the force seeks balance by tying to rid those that try and control and corrupt it, as balance is balance in the light only.
Not digging you out at all, and it would be cool to see this type of interpretation on screen, but it would also confuse audiences by doing this (outside of books etc) as it is a view of the force that goes directly against what the creator intended - intended for audiences to understand the force itself, as well as George’s own personal views on life and how we process emotions. This is what informed his creation of the force and the Star Wars universe (it’s also tbf, why others interpret the force differently, as we all hold different outlooks on life, and people often draw from existing philosophy when coming up with their own interpretations.
This is cool, and part of why Star Wars, - and particularly the force - has different interpretations to it by fans. However, I do think it important to consider what the creator of it all states when consuming any canon material such as the films and these new Disney shows (let’s all ignore the sequel trilogy though as………well, has there ever been a bigger fuck up in movie history than that ! 😂🙌)
@@westington1 George's views on the force (I think) are similar to the ancient religious and mythological texts. I do agree with you that it would make it quite confusing for the fans.
And there is something far worse than the Sequel Trilogy
STAR WARS: HOLIDAY SPECIAL.
I highly recommend that you check out the holiday special parents' guide on IMDb (specifically the Frightening and Intense scenes section)!
I just watched every second of the most amazingly, ridiculously, surprisingly wonderful documentary on the Force that I've ever seen, & *I AM* Ol' School Star Wars. Many kudos & much applause on making a video that gives even the truest Star Wars fans a treat, & provides the intelligent or perceptive Star Wars fans a wholly stimulating & entertaining half-hour. Seriously great job.
Thank you for your compliment! Appreciated! 🙏
its revenge of the 5th perfect time to see this star wars video for me it was done well n i appreciate the work put into it being a fan of old n new star wars stuff~
The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural
Love the mix between real life philosophy and Star Wars lore. More vids like this! This was amazing, I learn more than I thought I would as I love both philosophy and Star Wars.
Jedi philosophy: "I only have value when acting in others' interest. Mine is to sacrifice and deny myself so that others may benefit."
Sith philosophy: "I have the right to be happy in my life, and to achieve it through building my own value."
Hands down the best written separation between the two I've read
This is the worst pseudo-philosophical nonsense I've ever seen
The Sith are outright evil and relish in it; you morons only try to make Sith tied into real life philosophy, and often the good kind, in order to inject your biases
Both are the two extrem, we need the grey jedi
Ahsoka was right to leave the Jedi order. This decision, in my opinion, demonstrated that there is a flaw in what the Jedi taught and believed. Ahsoka had the disadvantage (advantage?) of being Anakin's student. He was constantly emphasizing his desire to protect those he was close to. Ahsoka, in fact, was taught in the final finale episode of TCW, recently released, to defend against a massive clone attack. Anakin was making sure she had what she needed, because he already knew subconsciously, or through the force, what was going to happen, and he wanted to protect her.
Ahsoka, like Anakin, cared about her friends and had attachments, which was probably an error in training she inherited from Anakin. This was not allowed in the Jedi order. The Jedi were stoic, and attachment was not allowed.
However, Ahsoka had compassion for all life, AND she had deep attachment to her friends. That was the conflict with the Jedi teachings that drove her away. Anakin had attachment to his friends ABOVE the lives of others. He fell and became Vader because he was willing to sacrifice any other life to keep those he wanted to protect alive. This is an anachronism, and directly related to his desire to control (partly due to the lack of control he had as a slave).
Ahsoka, however, realized that all life was important, and to be valued. She did not have the traumatic upbringing that Anakin had. But she also cared about her friends and had attacents. In some ways, her views were more pure than those of the Jedi order. She had attachments, and love, but was able to see all life as valuable and not let her attachments take priority. Love, that's an important part of life. If you can't love, how can you truly value life.
Perfectly said. 💯
You are describing Luke Skywalker.
Ahsoka is a copy of him in my view.
Luke's attachment for his friends and fear to lose them lead to fail Yoda's Test to stay passive (Empire strikes back).
He pursuits his dark side by saving his friends but he should have died fighting against Darth Vader.
Only Darth Vader's attachment and love for his son saved Luke.
Obi Wan, Yoda, Darth Vader and the Emporer maintained balance in the force.
Luke was a disturbance.
Leia Organa's call for save triggered the failure and fall of Obi Wan.
Obi Wan has Sith in him like we all do.
He failed to train Anakin and lost his dear friend.
Yoda wouldn't go and save her.
Stay passive.
I dont like the prequels, because a true Jedi like Yoda wouldn't go to war to save others.
and she was a good friend
When Jung spoke of getting in touch with our shadow self, surely he meant that we be honest to ourselves about who we are instead of having certain traits and being in denial about having those traits. Only by identifying our worst qualities through self-reflection can we manage and transform them. I'm sure Jung wasn't saying ''be evil''.
@LibVis Yes. I believe that Carl Jung was a more like a Jedi, and opposite to Darth Vader.
:-)
@LibVis I think "bad traits sort of simplifies it into black and white" To have a okayish or understanding of it is to see neither as wrong or right and to simply combine the two and use them at different stages during ones life.
Aggression is not bad trait, neither is selfishness just outright, there has to be a line drawn inorder to come to such a conclusion weither you were selfish or selfless.
The line is what people should hold at, is what I think the video is saying neither putting too much importance or too little importance on yourself.
The difficult part is where, when, and how should approach certain situations using these methods, weither it be by violence, Diplomacy, importance on yourself and putting importance elsewhere.
Correct. Jungian shadow integration revolves around confronting the worst aspects of yourself, "your shadow", and integrating them into your consciousness as a whole as a way of overcoming your ego. It's more about confronting the negative aspects of you, and successfully integrating them so that it serves the harmonious whole of your consciousness. He erred far more on the side of selflessness, balance, harmony, and humility before the Universal Consciousness/God/The All/whatever.
@@AnEruditeWolf
Very good! Thanks for this
Well done. I like how you tied the philosophies behind the Star Wars Mythos to real life spirituality and philosophy.
It's all about transcending the two sides. Imbalance is the real enemy. Your reason can contain your passions and your passions can drive you to purpose. That's why sometimes risk from your passions can lead you to where you need to be and it's not always the rational way to do things
Sounds like gray Jedi thinking. 😉
This is why I like Jedi survivors story. Cal rejects parts of Jedi teaching that’s unhelpful or damaging, and even taps into his emotions, the dark side. So while cal is definitely good, he isn’t what a Jedi would charectically (?) be
What an exquisite analysis, two of the things that I love the most, Star Wars and Philosophy, bonded in one incredible video.
this is so perfectly explained & a reason why star wars means so much to me
I have never watched even a single one film of Star Wars. The videos you made about them really tempt me to do so. I believe that these films demonstrate the duality that exists in our world. It may be in another dimension or galaxy, but it is still duality. Where there is duality, there is separation. When we become one with God, or the Force, or the Source, or whatever name each has for this, then we understand and feel that we are all ONE. When we finally feel and realize that each one is the Love that knows that is the Love already, the separation and the conflict ends.
Just try Star Wars Books like darth bane trilogy or darth plaguise, as Star Wars fan that 2 books is the best books ever written in Star Wars universe
Actually, the movies will probably ruin your love for Star Wars if you go into the movies expecting something deep and philosophical like this video. Half of the lightsaber colours in the movies were really because actor choices or lighting issues (Luke's green saber in the original trilogy) (Windu's purple saber in the prequels), though we can say all we want about the philosophical and character of each colour, it didn't start out that way, and it's an odd coincidence and sometimes a stretch that it all fixes together.
Really enjoyed this one. Your placement of choral music really added a surene quality that relaxed me beyond measure.
I wonder what the name of this music track is?
This is one of the greatest philosophies videos I’ve ever watched . Not only for Jedi/Sith philosophy (which I am a huge fan of) but also the philosophy of human nature and the psychology of man. The way you connected it to nietzsche philosophy and stoicism and many other examples is absolutely brilliant. We all must embrace some form of our dark side to escape the slave mentality. Bcuz if we give in to excessive self-sacrifice, we in turn lose power towards our full potential. My mind is absolutely blown from this Gem of a video. You just earned yourself a new subscriber. Please keep it coming!
Einzelganger, I may be too late, and I've no doubt that this will be both sappy and cringe, so apologies in advance for that. I merely wanted to thank you for this video, honestly and sincerely. I became fascinated with Sith philosophy during a period of self improvement in my life. It was Sith philosophy that led me to study Jungian psychology and real world philosophies, Nietzsche and Stoicism especially, in hopes of expanding upon it. Your videos were of particular interest to me at that time. It was also the Sith that made me change my goal of self improvement to self actualization. I fell off my path awhile ago, having entered a dark period of my life, and much of the knowledge I acquired has been forgotten, but I'm coming out of it and will find my way again soon. Like you said at 22:10, this path probably isn't the one that suits me, as my personal dark night revealed to me, but though the Sith, Jung and Nietzsche may no longer resonate with me, I think there's too much value in the knowledge they passed on to simply ignore. I don't intend to follow them dogmatically (I honestly believe that God, the divine, source or whatever word you have for it won't allow me to even if I wanted), nor do I believe it possible or have any desire to become a lighting wielding maniac, but I believe there are some aspects of their philosophy I can apply to better myself, and certain points brought up about master and slave morality to reflect on, though not believe entirely. Once again, sorry for the rant, but I've had to make due with links on the Sith Order reddit (don't judge me), and 2 videos on TH-cam to feed my fascination of the Sith, a reuploaded video by Coterie, and an analysis on Kreia's philosophy. I never expected you to make a video like this, so this was nothing less than a very pleasant surprise and an absolute treat. 😁
Oh, and before anyone worries for me, yes, I may be a nerd but not so far gone I can't separate reality from fiction. The Star Wars universe may hold my fascination, but I fully intend to live my life in the real world. Don't know why, but I felt like I needed to add that.
Rob A
Oh thank you for sharing your experience. Not a rant at all. I hope he (the Dutchman who makes these great vids) reads what you wrote.
You sound like a WINNER to me. You'll do great. And thanks for helping me understand better the ppl who are Star Wars fans.
Stay unafraid and remember love. 😊 ✌
What I love about star wars' philosophy is that in the end, Darth Vader did bring balance to the force, being the ultimate image of evil in the whole universe, but in his death bed, redeeming himself by the love of his son. That turns him in to the ultimate beacon of hope, it's never too late to seek inner peace and the good inside each one of us.
Yeah. But think of how many he killed.
I can see it both ways
not to mention he actually did bring balance to the force by eliiminating both Sith and Jedi. Always bothered me how the Jedi interpretted that prophecy (balance) as eradicating the dark side.
@@siddm11Ugh, this again. Lucas already confirmed that bringing balance to the force meant destroying the Sith. They are considered a cancer on the Force. Feel free to look it up if you don't believe me.
@@siddm11
This isn’t true. Darth Sidious was largely the corrupting force of the prequels. It wasn’t that the Jedi were bad or wrong. The duel of the fates is about how if qui gon dies that starts anakin on his path without a father figure (Obi wan being his brother) to the dark side. The other fate being qui Gon lives and he’d be saved from the dark side bc he’s a good master for him. That’s why it’s called duel of the fates. Anakin already had a rough upbringing and was already bitter and too old. It was just not going to go well already. It was destiny. And frankly the jedi masters did what worked for the majority of every jedi ever but again, were clouded by Palpatine. They failed, but they failed in a way that was inevitable. It’s not as if jedi fail the light side is wrong lmao
Powerful stuff, I like how you examine both sides and let us decide
I got the feeling that by teaching Anakin to suppress his emotions Joda pushed him straight to the Sith as suppressing emotions is a very unhealthy thing to do.
This is incredible!!! I love studying sith philosophy from a perspective of personal development. Thank you, Einzel!
"You have mastered the dark side of the force. It is not enough, it never was"
*Emperor Valkorion*
This has further inspired me to embrace my shadow, and I truly need to. Gotta have both, can't really adopt only one side.
Thanks, man.
The dark side and light side is fiction. The dark side in Star Wars is more than just evil. To a force user it is a drug like herroin. Once a force user begins to go to the dark side it creates some sort of addiction that engulfs the dark side user with crazy mood swings that take over.
Victor
Good idea. We must love who we are totally. That's one of the lessons of being human. Another human lesson is learning to love others which is almost impossible if one gives in to their dark side.
embrace your shadow? what does that mean?
did this dude jus become a sith
This is stupid dualistic nonsense. There is no 'shadow self.' There is no 'light self.' Shadow is an absence of light. You cannot have both; you can only be lacking the 'good' quality. The dark side is a cancer in the force; to 'balance' the force means to remove this cancer and only have a 'light' side.
I really liked the video. Specially in the end, where you make some conclusions and quote Kreia (one of My favourite characters in SW) and the part of dark side's pitfalls. I think only Revan and Kreia understood the wisdom in knowing both light and dark side of the Forcé.
I rarely or never leave comments but I thought that this video was amazing and incredibly well done so I felt obligated to say something. Very well done
Something that I would be very interested in watching from you would be a video about grey Jedi and their ideology
What a fascinating and comprehensive analysis, I’ve probably listened to this maybe 5 times now? and am still trying to fully understand such a view. As a fan of Star Wars from literal and metaphysical point of view I applaud and thank you for explaining such a topic like this which is not so simple.
It was a very thought provoking video. Nietsche had a point when saying that we are forced to abandon the 'master attitude' towards life. However, I think it is wise to abandon the paradigm of power and affirmation (at some point). These are useful when we establish ourselves as young adults but become self-defeating later on. Hanging on to power and affirmation requires constant feeding, which is basically a slavery of the realm of hungry ghosts.
George Lucas stated in “Empire of Dreams” that the Jedi Code was based upon the philosophical tenants of Buddhism and Stoicism. Also the Jedi/Sith are the Yin/Yang. Neither is all good nor bad. Extreme aestheticism leads to stagnation which is why the Jedi were so easily fooled. Their refusal to accept that they didn’t have all the answers led to their downfall. Mace Windu (when it’s suggested by Qui Gon Jinn that the individual he fought on Tattooine was a Sith) arrogantly states “I don’t believe that the Sith could have returned without our knowledge). Qui Gon Jinn on the other hand followed the living Force and not as Palpatine stated “the dogmatic ideals of the Jedi,” (when speaking to Anakin upon revealing his identity as Darth Sidious).
Eventually Luke Skywalker saw that neither of the two codes were balanced. The Jedi encouraged love while forbidding attachment, yet their attachment to their ideals is what caused their downfall. The Sith craved power for its own sake by any means necessary even if that means destroyed the psyche (as in Anakin’s actions at the Jedi Temple) and Palpatine’s patricide before becoming a Sith apprentice. In the now non-canon novels (specifically the Yuzon Vong war) Luke teaches his students both disciplines but warns them of extremes which will lead to their destruction. In the Clone Wars we meet the Father, Son and Daughter who epitomize the different sides of the Force and the balance that must be maintained between the two.
Nice 🙏
And if you remember, one of Luke's masters was the embodiment of actual balance in the force; Ahsoka Tano.
Perhaps not aestheticism but *asceticism?
Absolutely mind bending, thank you as always. Please keep making content!
That was a very well put together video that I completely agree with.
It's easy to see how the Je'daii had the right idea. Maintain balance in the light and dark.
We need the dark side to be able confident in our own skills, defend ourselves, protect those we love and get ahead in life.
At the same time, we need the light to remain calm, remember that it's important to help others, and work together so we can all get ahead in life. Balance. Creation and destruction. Nature.
I never felt like Vader was really bought into the Sith. He got stuck with it and had to make the best of it. He was hugely a dark side user no doubt, but I never saw anything that made me think he really committed to the sith doctrine like Sideous was.
Lol
I couldn't help but think a lot about Taoist philosophy during this one!
I'm glad you showed the contrast between these while also showing that they compliment each other in many ways and that taking either too far can be detrimental.
This is why I love Taoism so much, because it reminds me that there must be balance to everything if it is to truly benefit us, and believing anything to the extreme can lead to disastrous consequences!
Great video! 👍
If I remember correctly the force was actually based on Taoism, I think George chose it as a way to introduce different ways of thinking to the Western world
@@ianmckenna6146 interesting for sure, but he kinda failed then.....
He basically took the concept and completely reversed it.
There's absolutely nothing counter intuitive or balanced about the actual message that the movies put forth
@@MattAngiono yeah, he made the sith and jedi based on yin and yang but didn’t really make them two sides of a whole, just opposites
@@ianmckenna6146 I think it was zen Buddhism, not Toaism. Balance is the light, Lucas has said that, it's why one of Star Wars' core themes is letting go.
@@Garry_Combine ahh, thanks
I see a value of both, if one is looking for true balance. If you run to extremes "light or dark" you'll end up with the same effect. A person should explore both side without being too embraced to either side or they could miss the universe.
You might want to read about "grey jedi"
A sith mentality will cause the individual to be shackled to their own power and influence, for they must maintain the shroud which hides the key to their power as once it is no longer hidden another will use the opportunity to take it for themselves.
To acheive true freedom one must embrace all aspects to the sense they hold enough power to not be dominated nor in exess where one must dominate another. Balance is where true power exists.
There must be both dark and light. I will do what I must to keep the balance, as the balance is what holds all life. There is no good without evil, but evil must not be allowed to flourish. There is passion, yet peace; serenity, yet emotion; chaos, yet order. - The gray code
Gray Jedi. Yes!
Wow. Great perspective. Super thought provoking. One of your best ! Well done. 🎉
That is a great episode - thank you. I only have one thought to share - life itself, complex as it is, can force us to act like a Sith, even if the core of our nature is appolonian.
OK, I'm listening to this a second time, to me stoicism has been a great tool to free myself from so many worries and fears, but there's a part of me that is very materialistic and really enjoys some luxuries and wealth in general.
It's been hard to reconcile both ways of thinking, sometimes they feel like a watch with a gear train that don't really fit.
Maybe this video will provide some insight into the matter. Thanks a lot friend!
I really enjoyed this from start to end. I think I've been going through something of a personal "villain arc" lately and I definitely can see the value in the "dark" side of one's self... though with most things, a balance of both dark and light is clearly needed.
Really good video. :)
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes".
Dark is an absence of light; there is no 'balance' between light and dark. Only fools think in such dualistic terms. Evil and Good aren't opposites; evil is an absence of Good.
Following the "jedi way" led me to stagnation and depression. I felt like I was spiritual, but there was a part of me I was repressing, the part that wants to express its will, to achieve, to gain confidence, grow, and become stronger. Repressing my desires, I realized, is repressing my humanity. Once I started to integrate this part of me, while always remembering compassion, love, and presence of mind, I started to progress. I firmly belief integrating both the "good " and "bad" part of ourselves is crucial. An example I always use is that for most of my life, I despised people who dressed well because I viewed them as vain and superficial. I thought clothes were simply functional. Turns out that not only do I like to dress well. I love it lol. I now see the value in expressing myself and standing out. I respect myself and want to look great. This is a much more nuanced view in my instead "you of dress good you vain". There really isn't anything wrong with dressing well. This applies to other things.
This. Exactly this.
"In Marienburg a man can find anything he desires, and many things he doesnt." Thats the quote this brought to my mind.
The dark side can bring you everything your heart desires, and everything you fear most, both at the same time. That is afterall, the fullness of life. Sheer ectasy and abject terror.
Now this is what I call top tier content. Very interesting, good job! 👏👏
The sith basically take self improvement and catapult it to an extreme. "I will triumph, and I don't care what happens to everyone else". This is why they are evil.
This isn't just "evil" it's selfish as well because The Sith don't care about anyone else but themselves. A classic case in point is when Anakin asks for the lowering of the ship when Padme falls out. "...I need her..." is his argument to counter Obi Wan. His relationship with Padme was never about the both if them it was always about him.
But then it turns into not being self improvement, when those same Sith Lords fall so deep into the dark side that they become physically and mentally disfigured. Darth Sion was practically holding himself together, only alive because his hatred allowed him to survive, and the moment he let go of his hatred, he died.
@@wolfgang7812 love is something that goes both ways so that's a different topic, but yes, sith put themselves above others
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Keep rewatching this. Love it. But the Jedi council were just as responsible for Anakin's change as palpatine.
I Agree!!! 💯
The council pushed him to Palpatine, if anything. Had they not been so dogmatic in their practices and had some nuance in their approach to the literal Chosen One of prophecy, Vader wouldn’t have ever happened.
@@weekendgunviolenceor the Chosen One was Vader and not Anikan. When the story was first written for 4-6, there were only 2 jedi (Obi Wan and Yoda) and 2 sith (Vader and Palpatine). 2 and 2, balance in the number of force users.
This was Definitely worth my time! I feel there's a balancing point between both extremes; like the anti-hero position for example.
Excellent presentation!
This is one of the most interesting videos you have made and very detailed and informative indeed
I have followed your teachings? Presentations? Sharings? for a long time -always with respect, admiration, and appreciation.
This particular one struck me as the best yet. It integrates so much that you have covered before, and integrates in the mythological and archetypal metaphors which somehow make it particularly impactful.
Timely for me, thank you for that. 🙏
Obviously they are both partially right. I struggled a lot mentally some time ago trying to understand how to reconcile these two apparent opposites of passion/rationality, risk/prudence and so on. How to choose between them, or how to reconcile such opposite things? Then it came into my mind that they aren't opposite at all, they are in fact complementary, and I thought of a simple metaphor: we just have to drive ourselves though the tortuous path of life, therefore we obviously need both the gas pedal and the breaks. We need passion to fuel our engine, or we won't go anywhere and just stand still, but we also need the breaks of reason and calmness for bending properly, for being cautious in difficult parts of the road and for ultimately not crashing. Who would be so crazy to drive a car without any fuel or without any breaks? Mastering this driving is the real indivual challenge I think, and it's what also Taoism ultimately tries to teach, but of course then socially and politically it becomes more complicated perhaps, even though democracy is also kind of based on the tension between these two forces in a way :)
Great analogy! Very convincing
Exceptional video, thank you so much for talking about the philosophy of star wars, I've been interested in it forever 😀
A mixture of the Light and Dark Side of the Force is needed. THAT is true balance in the Force. This is why both orders nearly died out. They both stubbornly refused to adapt and acknowledge the entirety of the Force. The Jedi of the Old Republic gave into their own beauracracy, contempt, and ego. The Sith gave into their insatiable hunger for power and their stubborn behavior. Both orders chose to deny the other side of the Force they followed. The Jedi suppressed all emotion and any personal happiness, which is eventually what drove Anakin Skywalker to turn to the Dark Side. The Sith, on the other hand, embraced all passions and emotions, let their emotions and passions consume them and use the Force and their abilities for entirely selfish or sinister reasons. In short, I believe both orders represented the Light and Dark Side, but to unwavering extremes. By acknowledging your emotions, but not letting them control you, could one truly find balance in the Force, and that trying to quantify the Force into a black-and-white reality is not really the true nature of the Force.
Edit: Sorry, went on a bit of a rambling tangent there, LOL.
I fully agree with your hypothesis ... Which is the main reason my favorite Star Wars character is Revan ... A Jedi turned Sith Lord turned one with the Force
Honestly, I agree with the statement:
"We must concur ourselves, our enemies and destroy everything that stands in our way, become our own masters and let no one rule over us"
I love this video. Food for thought definitely. I love the star wars take on the philosophy. Keep it up your doing a bang up job 👏
"The strong must rule while the weak don't deserve anything, but being dictated. Fear is the primary tool for keeping the subjects in line. The strong rule. The weak are meant to serve."
We are seeing this more and more.
It is the natural hierarchy of an aloof life.
If the meek don't take responsibility for the correct and fair management of their productivity and collective needs, the people who rule them will always do whatever they want because they've been delegated the power to do just that.
The strong will always be strong no matter if they participate in a corrupt system where they misappropriate resources from a craven populace, or fairly gain the just rewards for their superlative qualities.
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But in a system in which resources are being unfairly distributed from a craven populace to those without necessarily superlative qualities we are not seeing a natural hierarchy predicated on the supremacy of strength and vitality, but one predicated on the traits of dishonesty and selfishness, both of which are slave qualities by the way.
What you are espousing is the slave’s contortion and misinterpretation of “master morality” after thousands of years of effective subversion have sufficiently watered down the master’s cultural systems enough for the mercantile and slovenly (the slavish) to impose themselves atop a hierarchy already deeply perverted in their image and bent specifically to cater their natively and insidiously leeching disposition.
Let us see how real that strength is when the Police and Military turn against you. And they will. They are doing so already. The wheels have been long set in motion. And what has been done cannot be undone.
Good luck.
A man chooses, a slave obeys
Very well-made and well-explained video. I appreciate your work.
Fantastic video! I've seen a lot of videoes like this, and this one is definitely top 3 best presented thesis on the sith philosophy 😃
Very interesting and informative presentation!😁👍🏼👍🏼
This was a phenomenal video!
Great work!
We should be aware of the role and importance of both sides. The key is to avoid going too far in either direction, avoiding extremes.
I align with Revan Reborn and Lord Scourge. The world is grey. You are your own temple. You are both evil and good. How far you lean to each side is up to you. Can leverage both to be powerful.
Such a great video. Learned a lot! Thanks!
The Dark Side can best be described with a line from Blade 2, "Cancer with a purpose". In short, the more you gain power in the Dark Side, the greater the cancer grows. You can gain great power, wealth, influence in more using the Dark Side, but it comes at a high price.
I think it was one of your best and most original videos. Don't hesitate to continue to explore pop culture !
Apart from the references already used in the video, I think it's worth integrating Nassim Taleb’s duality of fragility and antifragility has measurements of how one thing responds to randomness/stressors. Not only passion, but overcome threat is what also empowers the sith. The siths basically want to be the alpha, the top of the food chain, evolution's magnum opus.
And the Universe presents its subjects with threats whether or not they rise with initiative to meet them. The Yodas of the Jedi order can sit and pontificate in their chamber on Coruscant about the “dangers of the passions” under a fabric of protection provided by an Empire whose leaders are Sith. Only one of the “two sides” of the force is proactive; the other is reactive. One comes first, always has and always will. The other must only ever live in its shadow. I’ll allow you to guess which one is which.
Don’t get me wrong, Palpatine _was_ cruel, manipulative, and maliciously evil: not just evil as in wilfully and potently destructive (passionately destructive for destruction’s sake), but _maliciously evil_ as in intentionally targeting creative and vital subjects for destruction simply to relish in their anguish (Anakin for one, Luke later on). The destruction of the good for the sake of the act itself while relishing in that very act- Palpatine was a sadist by definition. He was cunning, deceptive, ruthless, and delighted in using others to extend his own political and effective powers. He was a manipulator and an egoist, a “narcissist” of a kind, and insatiably evil. And yet, without him the Jedi would have nothing to do but to sit cross-legged in their throne room staring gormlessly into Coruscant’s cloud-scattered and sun-bleached vistas for ever more, or stealing bright young boys from the arms of their beloved mothers only to treat those boys with suspicion and derision, perhaps fulfilling the very prophecies they hypocritically lament?
The Jedi are pathetic nihilists without the Sith, yet destructive hypocrites when fighting them. The irony is Palpatine- I mean palpable!!
The only reason western audiences so blindly accept the Sith and Empire as the bad guys is because we’ve become so dispassionately nihilistic that we are already effectively monks- thus, only a “good guy” practicing a Buddhist’s ascetic life-denial appeals to our contemporary sensibilities.
@@117Industries bro that such a great takes
@@seliamila1005 Thanks man. I’ll add to the above that I don’t think the Jedi are _good_ either (although they believe they are). I think Anakin was good, broke bad, and became evil. And I also think that both good and evil are better than stupidity, nihilism, Jediism, and especially narcissism. The reason I think that is because both good and evil move the world, and sing a story together. The four dispositions after it are parasitic, and rely on the motions of Good and Evil. And parasites are the worst, because “if the host dies…”.
I honestly think you truly cannot have one without the other. They seem like contradictory forces when they are in fact complimentary. That’s where enlightenment and authenticity lead us.
this. The middle path
"I have no Enemies for I have them all Shot"
- Ramón María Narváez
"I destroy my enemies when I make them my Friends"
- Abraham Lincoln
As I say as my Star Wars chat up line, I am a Jedi on the streets but a Sith under the sheets.
“When I met you, I was but a learner. Now I am the master” - Darth Vader
This is GREAT work you've done. I appreciate it.
The use of the dark sid te does not make one evil nor does the use of the light side make one good. The dark side is powered by passion, it just so happens that rage is the most common and easiest form of passion. In the real world i have found that passion is a very useful in achieving goals, although if you dont keep it in check your passion can get away from you and destroy everything you have built
It’s amazing how much came out of a story about a farm boy who saves a princess from an evil space wizard
i truly appreciate this video. thanks for the work you put into making it.
Hmm, never expect the owner of this channel to be a Sith Lord!!!
I think my other content is way too Apollonian for that to be true. But who knows.. 👺
Hilariously for the longest time when I was a kid I started going through the philosophy of sith, I ended up building a cult of personality and having to tell my friends to stop after I got over my larger-than-life edgelord phase
We built a protection racket and beat up bullies
At work I'm a Sith lord but then at home I'm a Jedi.
Thanks!
That was an amazing break down of a complex subject. Bravo!
Thanks for this thoughtful video! I find it difficult to fully subscribe to one philosophy. I prefer peace and contentment over competition and achievement, but to be devoid of passion and not feel anger at injustice or upon witnessing the suffering of others, that's not quite right either. Balance is needed. Otherwise, one would just become completely powerless and uncaring. Disengaged and removed from the world.
Amazing video pal. Congrats! And may the force be with you...
Thanks, Eric!
I sure hope you do a video on gray force users. (Ones who take aspects of the dark and light side of the force)
All-in-all, very nice video.
There isnt anything like gray force users since u have to choose one or the other , or u are in the light side or in the dark side, the concept is fan made and have no real value in sw universe.
@@uwucotc Yea gray force users are more of a title given to Jedi and sith who don’t wanna call themselves Jedi or sith, in reality, all gray force users are one or another, Ashoka, quinlin vos and Jolee bindo, are self proclaimed gray force users, but are Jedi at heart
Assaj ventress, kreia, are sith at heart. They difference between gray force users, and jedi & sith, is that gray force users accept a tiny bit of wisdom from the other spectrum, but not very much, just a tiny bit. So in a sense, gray force users don’t really exist, there are only gray Jedi and gray sith.
@@themelon_1785 It's too bad a middle ground doesn't exist, but that would be the hardest path to walk of all, because it would require a balancing act of what we would generally constitute as "good" and "evil". A group of force users who are motivated by passion, yet said passions become constrained when they interfere with lets say the "rights" of another individual, as not to produce harm to others in the pursuit of their passion. They accept the Sith Code as truth, but choose to live in opposition of it. Whereas Jedi justify the use of force to protect the rights of the majority, and Sith justify the use of force to pursue their passions, this group would solely be interested in the use of force to prevent the overreach of the tyrannical individual, focusing on said individual and not necessarily the consequences of corruption which effect the community
No such thing as a gray force user. It is ultimately a binary choice, you either follow the will of the Force or you disregard the will of the Force and follow to your own whims. To do both is to contradict the law of non-contradiction. In the words of the Islamic Philosopher Avicenna:
“Anyone who denies the law of non-contradiction should be beaten and burned until he admits that to be beaten is not the same as not to be beaten, and to be burned is not the same as not to be burned.”
@@epistemo3442 I know this isn't really part relevant to what your saying, but what if I was a force user in a wasteland where Evil and Unlawlessness exists as it is everywhere in the land and I give in to my own anger not out of bitterness but rather to Utilise it to protect the ones whom I love or those who can't protect themselves and to banish those who are the ones causing evil towards the Land?
What do you call that kind of force user does that align to anything light or dark?
I'm not trying to be a contrarian or anything I'm just curious.
"We Sith are an unseen opposition. A phantom menace. Where the Sith once wore armour, we now wear cloaks. But the force works through us all the more powerfully in our invisibility. For the present, the more covert we remain, the more influence we can have. Our revenge will be achieved not through subjugation but by contagion.”-Darth Tenebrous to Darth Plagueis.
_"Twice we have tried to burn away the failures and hypocrisies of the Jedi. Twice we have failed. We must not fail again, for there is precious little tinder left.....to keep our fire burning"_
This essay could have been even deeper with some further analysis about Ahsoka and the middle path of buddhism, one of the greatest influences for the Jedi code.
he should make another video about this
Jedi don't avoid the shadow side, they integrate it.
For me Jedi is the awakened soul, and sith is the ego
Agreed. For those who get it: there is always some darkness in the light, and some light in the darkness. Just ask Luke and Anakin, respectively.
@@raziyatheseeker Yes, it's called Yin and Yang.