Ilan Pappe:I hope for the end of Israel and the creation of free Palestine from the river to the sea
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- Israeli historian Ilan Pappe launched his new book, "Lobbying for Zionism on Both Sides of the Atlantic," on 11 June at an event organised by The Cordoba Foundation, MEMO and One World Publications in London, UK. At the event, Pappe spoke about historical and present antisemites who have supported Zionism.
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I hope this wonderful man lives to see a free Palestine.
We're supposed to think that ethnically cleansing Jews from Palestine is somehow moral, despite the fact that most we're born there? What a skewed view of morality.
Ameen Ameen Ameen
@@duras2000 He is well-known as an anti-Zionist and admired like other anti-Zionist Jews in Palestine. You don't know what you're talking about.
@@duras2000shows how much you know. Must be American. Always experts at every topic that comes to the front page news.
@@mazscsutry to walk witn a Star of David in Gaza and see what happens. We’ve seen the tolerance of the average Gazans. I was in Kfar Aza 2 days ago and saw it first hand. 62 civilians dead. Men, women, children.
And as for his pitch about Jews removing the Palestinians from Israel - here’s a question:
The first Jews started immigration to what is now Israel in 1881. Can you find ONE reference from 1881 or prior to someone identifying themselves as a Palestinian??
Absolutely brilliant🎉🎉🎉"I don't want to lose hope. And hope for me is the end of Israel, and the creation of a free Palestine from the river to the sea"- Ilan Pappe, Israeli historian
@charlessmith-vh9cw the quote is what Ilan says in this video at the minute 23:40.
Clearly you are a fake
@@mariafantappie8177Thank you❤
Fake comment is for charles Smith
@@mariafantappie8177 Thank you, Maria. The interesting thing is that I was writing the comment when I thought that the quote might have been from the video. I left my comment without clicking 'reply' to listen to the video for that quote. I then found your response. Somehow you were able to see my comment without my clicking 'reply'
What can be more beautiful than a righteous Jew who supports the Palestinian People. Thank you Professor Pappe, you represent our hope
Because it's so rare. a good Jew?
@@mikiafu Absolutely not! I follow other enlightened ones
@@anitarossi5871 but it's a very rare thing right, an enlightened Jew
@@mikiafu this is like thinking when someone says, “you look nice today” - means you look terrible every other day
@@justsomecyborg788No, It is more like if you were told "You look nice", after going through hundreds of days being told by others that "you look awful".
Ilan is the best example of Jewish excellence and scholarship. He is a true warrior for peace and justice .
Nope. Pappe is a total and complete historical joke. A walking encyclopedia of fraudulent lies, things he literally made up and blatant distortions. A loonatik who had shown any signs of violence towards others (or himsself) would have been locked up in an asylum for years.
I Love LOVE Illan Pappe . He is so right ,we are living in a time of a Congress that is both Stupid and Morally Corrupt who care only for themselves.! Evil is not just Money , It is Indifference and especially to human suffering and our planet. Thank you so much Illan for your profound words. Many Blessings your way! 💜
You love a well-established, Amas-supporting lunatik ?
@@bluestar6879
Hot air
@@afreeworld2024
Listening to a lunatik makes you m0r0nic.
Free US and UK from AIPAC.
Free the region from the US military bases.
Ilan Pappe is a great historian.
A great writer of fiction.
He was convicted some 20 years ago for falsely claiming that former members of the Alexandri Brigade killed civilians in the Israeli War of Independence. The court concluded that your hero fabricated historical data.
And you are a "great" comedian
Ilan pappe is a good decent human being. He represents the best of our Jewish bretheren in humility, kindness, humanity and truth.
No, Pappe is a demmentted writer of historical fiction. A true loony tunes who urgently needs therapy in the asylum.
Freedom for Palestine 🇵🇸
Sure looks free
@@melborndontis2947 why not..life is test and God never breaks his promise, cruel people like you are not happy when Muslims lead the world 🙄🤨
@@melborndontis2947 why not,life is test and Allah never breaks his promise! people like you of course not happy when Muslim's people lead a world🙄🤨
@@Faiter.Re_Ri muslim women are never happy when muslim men lead a world.
@@Faiter.Re_Ri they will never lead the world. They bring death and destruction on a mass scale. Terrible leaders. Name 1 that leads the world.
All respect to you dear prophesor Ilan Pappe thank you for supporting Palistine you are a Palistinian we are proud of you 🌹❤️🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸👍👌💪💪💪
This man is educating me on the history of the injustices served on Palestine. He is doing a great service to our world struggle for universal justice. ❤
Man gets my support
❤ A man of integrity and honor❤
I'm sitting here, in our shabby bicycle shop, listening to this gifted author. What amazing times we are living in.
I’ve always respected Ilan Pappe, he’s so ahead of our time and he’s done so much for my people, for fostering a well rounded interpretation of their struggle, and of the structure of Zionism in the modern day. I’ll definitely be obtaining a copy of this book, none of his that I’ve read have failed thus far.
Well-said, thanks. Pappe lives on this level of effectiveness because he has made his choice, knowing that fine-tooth historical research becomes either a careerist's cold museum-piece or an active part of unleashing the historical truth into present evolutionary learning and action, on behalf of the whole human community.
Yes, Professor Pappe is so important and badly needed. I disagree with him regarding Edward Said and Danny Baremboim but then Pappe is blinkered in his cylo and it's difficult to look over one's bucket into another bucket. I'm hoping that I can meet him and have an interesting conversation with him that may help both of us. In any case, Israel 🇮🇱 and Zionism is over, finished forevermore as the USA crashes and burns as all empires do. Democracy was never desired or even given a chance. It's sad that many more lives will be lost before the interloping group called "Israel" returns to their genetic DNA home back in Europe. The USA and the western democracies have totally lost the plot tge G7 is buried and impotent next to BRICS. We're all Palestinians now. Here's hard evidence we shouldall know:
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You can either buy his book or the books he got his ideas from: Das Kapital and The Communist Manifesto!
@@jaialaiwarriorHow do you know which books he read? What about the thousands of books you left out?
@@jaialaiwarrior don't be silly! He simply wants justice for the Palestinians who have been ignored, victimised & abandoned for so long. Now run along to your troll factory..
Thanks Professor for your bravery and truthtelling. We all stand by palestiniennes side.
Ilan is a Hero. He fearlessly speaks the truth about Israel.
Ilan Pape is a great scholar! His expression of hope will have its place in history and hearts. Exceptionel and brave♡
What a sweet and gentle man.
Uk is fully responsible for all the mas world is going through.
Yes❤
I agree, but it is the ruling elites, not the ordinary working people
That's a simplistic way to look at it. Sure, UK elites have done a great deal of damage when they were one of the world's super powers. But all super powers have that problem. It doesn't have to do with the region it is from, but with the structure itself.
The Roman Empire, the Mongol Empire, USA, UK, all of them both brought great development and countless misery in their times. Sadly it's part of the game. What we have to do is look at these structures and do our best to improve them. Repudiation of the people that run these structures is a part of it, sure, as it contributes to healthier incentive context, but it is far from enough. War mentality assumes unpopular decisions are mandatory, whatever the price.
@@sangwaraumo check out the gator holes globally
@@allauddin732 Sigh, well, at least I tried.
Thanks Ilan! Free Palestine from the river to the sea! And power to the people! 💪🇵🇸❤️ El pueblo unido jamás será vencido!
we all want the best for the Palestinian people but what do you mean by "from the river to the sea"? That phrase has been interpreted as wishing the destruction of the Israeli people (so best not to use it), and if you & others use it a lot it might be interpreted in that way by some (extreme) Israelis and lead to the (complete) destruction of the Palestinian people.
@@HistorymanDublin is just a citation of what Ilan says in this exact video, at the minute 23:40. Therefore, if you want to understand the meaning, just play attention to what Ilan says in this minute and in several others.
@@HistorymanDublin dont say this phrase because it makes israelis upset that u might want to abolish their ethnostate - but if you choose to use it, they will inevitably choose to genocide the palestinians!
what reasonable sentiments 🤓☝️
@@HistorymanDublinwhat we mean by free Palistine from the river Jordan to the Mediterranean sea is one state for all citizens with equal rights without the zionest agenda
@@mariafantappie8177 You're a fool you don't even have an answer
Righteous man , thank you Ilan !!!
Ilan Pappe Books are a treasure to read, all the respect for a Brave man for speaking against the injustice towards the Palestinian
May I suggest that you read the Book "Industry of Lies" by Ben Dror Yemini
Very excited to read your new book! Thank you Dr. Pappe for your courage and leadership 🇵🇸
May I suggest that you read the book "Industry of Lies" by Ben Dror Yemin
This is the first time I have heard Ilan Pappe speak. That was amazingly concise.
Ilan Pappe 👍
The great Ilan Pappe.. Bless this incredible man 🥹🇵🇸❤
Wow what a noble man
What an amazing humanist and a very clever man.We need more people like him unafraid to speak his mind with the essential traits of of balance and common good.
Thank you, Ilan. This clearly explains the roots of Zionism for me.
Ilan Pappe is a true scholar of learning and the truth!
A m0r0n who got kicked out of his university for fabricating historical data.
Then, escaped to the UK to join a 3rd rate college in Devon.
If he is so brilliant, why is he is a journalistic NOBODY ?
Get this book immediately!
Dr. Ilan Pappe, Allah SWT bless you ☪️🕌🕋💚💚💚
Prof.Pappe thank you so much for your work and your standfast covering of the Palestinian cause. It is always a pleasure to listen to you. Your speech is a light in thee dark times
This scenario of the development of the Zionist project makes me very curious why no prominent person ever asked the question, "What will be the fate of the Palestinians if we do this?" It's as if that question was impertinent or unimportant.
Of course, it was and still is an impertinent and unimportant question, Michael. The history of the planet for the last several hundred years of domination by the imperial countries of the Global North is the story of subjugation of the black, brown and yellow races by the white race. It is called racial capitalist impoerialism. At no point in the last more than one hundred years since the emergence of the Question of Palestine have our people ever been consulted about the fate of our Palestine. We have been seen as a nuisance or a pest that needs to be swept aside.
I don't think colonizers ever think of that. Just like they didn't ask themselves when they carved up South America, Africa, Asia, etc.
It's their interests that matter and no one else's. Making money is more important than human life to them.
Well they are fine with fate of Palestinians just like they are with the fate of American Indians in North America.
The fakestinians never existed,
They were only invented in 1970s.
The fact Israel chased this guy out of the country tells us everything we need to know about this genocidal settler colonial project.
Very well said: “how come a state that is declared to be a high-tech state with the strongest army in the Middle East with the full support of the United States and the West, still tries to advocate for its legitimacy so many years”
Because it knows full well and the entire world knows full well more than ever that the Zionist State of Israel is an illegitimate creation of a settler-colonial nature that belongs in the dustbin of history. How preposterous a 19th century settler colonial form of statehood existing in the 21st Century!
BRAVO!!!!!
Massive Respect to Pr. Ilan Pappé 🙏
Hes such a great man Ilan Pappe so is Norman filkenstein
LMAO dude your off 🧠
@@melborndontis2947
Those who Don't Learn from History, are Doomed to Repeat it..
"Never Again "Means, Never Again!!!
Stop the Genocide!!!!
Free Palestine!!!!❤❤❤
@@melborndontis2947
Ignoramus!!!
I agree!👌🏼👌🏼🍉✌🏼💜
@@mariahewitt9787 this is not genocide. That's a terrible thing to fake.
What a wonderful human being! If 50% of Israelis were like Dr. Pappe, we would not have had this blood bath.
And if more than 50% palestinians did not support hamas jihadi ideology then current war would not have happened .....perhaps there could've also been a palestinian state by now if more than 50 % palestinians leaders chosen to accept many proposals for palestinian state but instead chose barbaric violence / sacrifice /martyr their children.....
@@mayashapira1130Blane the victim that has no other choice!
Powerful speech inducing hope for a future where justice will be given, as well as served.
A gift to humanity. Thank you for all I've learned. [ We're older now, but we're still running against the wind.] Keep pounding, sir! Bless and protect you!
A world without tribalism and free of hatred is the best and most long lasting solution.
Amin
Prof, Pappe. I would like to live with you, Prof, Finkelstein, and people like you, in free Palestine ,in a close neighborhood, in friendship, freedom and prosperity, better than to live with Alsisy, Ben Salman ,Ben Zaid Or King Abdullah, that,s ny dream to be reality sometime. Thank you very much, You are realy great!
Very True
Professor Pappe for British priminester!!!
God bless this great human being!!!
Most Sincerely Michael Foley 🤔
That was wonderful, thank you so much.
Good for ilan Pape. Congrats on another book. I hope it helps to educate more people in the world so we can overcome the propaganda and from zionism.
Thanks ME for this video of the Ilan Pappe book launch and his thought provoking talk.Bless
- Netanyahu let the attack happen on his own country, despite knowing about the attack 3 days before it happened.
- Music festival was organised with lot of foreigners just 3 miles away from the border. On whose order?
- Music festival was extended by one day as the attack did not happen when it was thought to happen. On whose order?
- Noticing that music festival casualty were less, used IDF to increase the casualties in the music festival. On whose order?
It was not only extended. It was moved 3 days prior from its origional location...no reason given.
@@katmag8 Yes you are right. Moved to place that is just 3 miles away from location where the attack was supposed to happen.
The truth emerges. Slowly but surely, like an inevitable tsunami.
I love him - one of the very few really deeply wise men ….
What a great mind and an humanitarian. I do think that Israel should lose its statehood because of the war crimes committed.
Wow! His knowledge, his clarity. Thank you Ilan Pappe!
Well done Pappe, for soeaking out the truth
A beautiful human being and brilliant scholar. So much admiration and respect for you, Professor Pappe.
You are among the few great men of this time. May God bless you for speaking your mind and going in depth of this tragedy.
Which him goodness and success ❤❤❤
What an amazing human being!
Very informative.
Keep him safe ❤
Like him
Powerful passionate and inspiring
It is historians like Mr. Pappe that give me hope for a better world
really good talk, thanks👌🏼🍉✌🏼💜
A Brave Human Being ❤
Good
❤ will definitely get my local library to order Ilan Pappe’s new book 📖 ❤
May I suggest that you ask for the book "Industry of Lies" by Ben Dror Yemini
@@BirdOf1951 ok, I will add that to my list, but why do you like this book?
@@CircaBEFORE You have to read it to understand. It covers many aspects of this conflict and not only but it has references of past similar conflicts in the world. In my opinion, if we want to bring this conflict to a respectful end where Israelis and Palestinians can live in peace side by side, we have to put our fate in the children. A proper education to the children is the solution. Education that does not promote hate but instead of human values.
I am astonished at the extremely rare viewpoint and belief of this unique and God fearing man. May God bless him❤❤
I thank God for people like Ilan! Unfortunately there aren’t many people like him
Ilan was spot on when he said "I dont remember as an historian, an era ,Politicians of such low calibre, intellectually , morally, corrupt, shallow reductionist, people with very little to offer their societies apart from their careers, it doesn't matter which party" certainly we need a new direction a fresher generation of Politicians, journalists activists who are morally not corrupt.
Bless you 🙏
i did read somewhere that God had forbidden to create a state of their own but to teach the greatness of God where they live.
Great man. ❤
Wow!! What a beautiful person..long live professor. May Almighty protect you in every way.
The Palestinian people owe a profound debt of gratitude to Professor Ilan Pappe, who has been a beacon of hope and a voice for justice. With unwavering integrity and moral courage, Professor Pappe speaks the unvarnished truth about the apartheid state of Israel through his powerful scholarly writings and compelling speeches. We hope and pray to see the results of his scholarly work bring about positive change and justice.
apartheid state of Israel ? May I suggest. that you read the book "Industry of Lies" by Ben Dror Yemin
Such an excellent presentation and important information. Thank you professor Pappe. Your contributions to understanding what is going on and why are invaluable.
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BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO!
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Ilan Pappe is the only man I have heard so far who offers a rational and realisable solution to this Middle East conflict (although it will take time and further bloodshed).
As in South Africa with a one-state solution and one person, one vote, but with an independent multinational authority with the likes China or Russia who can come down with an iron fist on dissenters and prevent civil war.
This nevertheless means imposing BDS boycott, sanction and divest by the rest of the world against Israel and USA. Since currently 95% of the world stands against Israel, with co-ordinated leadership and courage, this can be achievable.
A better future : The freedom of the Palestinians is our freedom too . Viva Ilan Pappe !
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His wisdom and deep understanding of the evils of zionism are remarkable
Thanks, Pappe, for being on the right side of history
Wonderful man..
Thank you for your dedication and courage to fight for what’s right.
Thank you for this excellent post.
Theses voices are becoming stronger as the understanding of this horrific tragedy is played out before the world.
Well someone's going to be upset about this talk and book 😂❤❤❤❤
I will buy and i will read immediately
Me too.
May I suggest that you read the book "Industry of Lies" by Ben Dror Yemini
If it exists a industry of lies that is surely that created by Iarael. You can continue your dehumanized life easly, but i want to thank you for the suggest ( i will never follow it)
@@marcoallegrini2943 I feel sorry for you. You have a chance to educate yourself but you choose not to.
Thanks to the universe for you Dr. Pappe!!!
Our children and grandchildren will remember this msn
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Ilan Papper is a special Israeli-Brit.
"May he live long...."
May God curse all that are against His people.
Thank you Middle East Eye for publishing this wonderful talk by Ilan Pappe.
It is the second question that has ever been disturbing us too , the peace-loving people all over the world!
For me it's a huge blessing to get to listen to this man. Thank you so much to Ilan Pappe and all who made this video possible.
It's like somebody stealing my house and try to justify it as theirs and then pretends to want peace by offering me the toilet to sleep in. Hypocrites
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