I initially purchased M4 Pro 12CPU/16GPU 24GB/512GB config but after spending two weeks with it, ordered M4 PRO 14CPU/20GPU 48GB/1TB. I don't want to regret not having enough memory after 3-4 years as plan on keeping it for 5 years minimum.
First config is an off-the-shelf config that costs $1900 at Best Buy right now. Second config is not off-the-shelf (so you can't get sales) and will costs $2800 through Apple. That $900 difference is half the price of the lower config. That difference can widen if AppleCare comes into consideration. If we extend these two purchasing trends to a 10 year timeline: The tendency of upgrading would cost you $5600 (2x$2800) with the possibility of trading in one 5 year old used machine. The tendency of buying less would cost you $5700 (3x$1900) with the possibility of trading in two 3-4 year old used machines. I'd go with the second option. You already have near price parity, but you'll get better trade-in value with newer machines (I got ~35% trade-in on my M1 Pro when I bought my M4 Pro, would maybe be 10% or 20% with an intel Mac but we'll see how used Apple silicon prices out as it ages further). Additionally you have an extra $900 in your pocket at any point in time that wouldn't have been there if you upgraded aggressively. That's potentially a big deal if an unforeseen expense hits you. Your device will also potentially be covered by AppleCare through its entire planned term of use. Lastly, you'll more frequently be on *newer* hardware, which will often matter more than being on better tier hardware from within an older generation (especially since Apple silicon is still new and rapidly iterating). All of that said, if you're making use of that extra RAM and disk today then you're spending your money on something that has material value today, rather than the hypothetical promise that it may last you a little while longer.
I just placed an order on a macbook pro m4 pro with 24gb 1tb ssd. These is my first laptop in awhile like 20 years I didn't have a laptop. I'm trying to start to learn how to video edit and graphic design. Hope I can learn how to use a mac.
There is no such thing as most value for money. If you need to run several containers, UI tests, iphone simulators, machine learning, you need a lot of RAM and therefore the best value is not the 1800$ option but rather >3000$
Placed an order on an 14in M4 Max, 64GB and 2TB storage. I'm a video editor with occasional light motion graphics projects so this config is enough to last me at least 5 years.
I’m on a 2019 MacBook Pro rn. I do music composition and audio engineering (recording, mixing, mastering). I often hit 50+GB when i have bigger sessions not even using the latest and greatest software virtual instruments, which require even more samples loaded into ram for best performance. I am wondering if i should stay with 64GB or get more since currently video memory is separate. Most projects will hit 32GB which is why i got 64, but now i’m doing bigger things at times and it gets close to it. Is 12GB enough for video if I’m running multiple monitors? My current GPU has like 8GB of vram and it struggles at times i think.
Thanks, that's the video I was looking for. I just bought the M4 24gb, I'm heavy on multitasking and background tasks, and I want everything snappier, since I have a 16gb M1
I am undecided between two models: the 14-inch model with 32GB RAM and an M4 chip, and the 14-inch model with 48GB RAM and an M4 Pro chip. I use Xcode, Android Studio, IntelliJ IDEA, and PyCharm intensively. Which one would you recommend?
Here's a timestamped summary of the 12-minute video: --- ****0:00** - **1:00**** Apple has increased the base RAM on new Macs to **16 GB**, replacing the previous 8 GB. The video raises the question: **Is 16 GB enough, or should you upgrade?** It introduces the concept of unified memory, which Apple uses to share RAM between the system and GPU dynamically. --- ****1:01** - **2:00**** Unified memory allows Macs to divide the memory pool dynamically between tasks like apps, system processes, and GPU needs. If RAM gets pushed to its limits, **swap memory** kicks in, where the system uses the SSD as backup memory. However, frequent swapping can cause **wear and tear** on the SSD over time. --- ****2:01** - **3:00**** The **16 GB base memory** is a significant improvement over the older 8 GB Macs. While refurbished 8 GB M2 Macs may seem like a bargain, the narrator advises against them, as 8 GB struggles with anything beyond basic tasks like web browsing and email. --- ****3:01** - **4:00**** Memory demands are increasing as Apple develops advanced features and apps get more complex. The narrator highlights that swap usage (due to limited RAM) can reduce SSD longevity. Choosing more RAM can avoid swap reliance and ensure better long-term performance. --- ****4:01** - **5:00**** For most users, **16 GB** is the sweet spot. The narrator discusses their own workflow, which includes tasks like video editing, research, AI tools, and scriptwriting. Even with heavy usage, **16 GB holds up well** but often pushes memory usage to 90-95%, occasionally relying on swap. --- ****5:01** - **6:00**** For demanding tasks like heavy multitasking or large files, **24 GB** is a noticeable upgrade. On the **M4 Pro MacBook** with 24 GB, performance feels “snappier,” and swap memory usage is almost eliminated. However, the narrator recommends **16 GB for lighter Macs** like the MacBook Air or Mac Mini. --- ****6:01** - **7:00**** For users who need more headroom for growth or heavy multitasking, the **24 GB default on the M4 Pro MacBook Pro** is ideal. It future-proofs performance and feels like the new standard, similar to how 16 GB was 3 years ago. --- ****7:01** - **8:00**** If you’re dealing with advanced tasks like 4K/8K video editing, **massive photo exports, or Xcode projects**, you might need more than 24 GB. Upgrading to **32 GB or 48 GB** offers significant performance improvements, but these upgrades come with steep costs. --- ****8:01** - **9:00**** The narrator emphasizes that upgrading beyond **48 GB** should only be done if you **know you need it**. For example, a **14-inch MacBook Pro with 48 GB** costs $2,400, and at that price, it’s better to upgrade to a higher-end M4 Pro model for better overall performance. --- ****9:01** - **10:00**** The **M4 Max** models offer default memory configurations up to **36 GB**. While 36 GB is great, users can upgrade to **64 GB** for an extra $200, which provides headroom for heavy workflows like simulations, gaming, and large-scale content creation. --- ****10:01** - **11:00**** The top-tier option is **128 GB RAM**, replacing the previous 96 GB limit. However, upgrading to **128 GB costs $1,000**-essentially the price of a MacBook Air. The narrator argues this is **overkill** for most users unless you’re working on Hollywood-level VFX or training AI models. --- ****11:01** - **12:00**** In conclusion, the narrator suggests picking a Mac based on the **chip** (M4 Pro, Max, etc.) and your real memory needs. Recommendations are: - **16 GB** for most users. - **24 GB** for future-proofing. - **48 GB** for heavy work. - Avoid 128 GB unless absolutely necessary. With this guide, users can make smarter choices about RAM upgrades. ---
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I initially purchased M4 Pro 12CPU/16GPU 24GB/512GB config but after spending two weeks with it, ordered M4 PRO 14CPU/20GPU 48GB/1TB.
I don't want to regret not having enough memory after 3-4 years as plan on keeping it for 5 years minimum.
not worth it , first option was good enough
Why not get the base then plan to upgrade after 3 years?
First config is an off-the-shelf config that costs $1900 at Best Buy right now. Second config is not off-the-shelf (so you can't get sales) and will costs $2800 through Apple.
That $900 difference is half the price of the lower config. That difference can widen if AppleCare comes into consideration. If we extend these two purchasing trends to a 10 year timeline:
The tendency of upgrading would cost you $5600 (2x$2800) with the possibility of trading in one 5 year old used machine.
The tendency of buying less would cost you $5700 (3x$1900) with the possibility of trading in two 3-4 year old used machines.
I'd go with the second option. You already have near price parity, but you'll get better trade-in value with newer machines (I got ~35% trade-in on my M1 Pro when I bought my M4 Pro, would maybe be 10% or 20% with an intel Mac but we'll see how used Apple silicon prices out as it ages further). Additionally you have an extra $900 in your pocket at any point in time that wouldn't have been there if you upgraded aggressively. That's potentially a big deal if an unforeseen expense hits you. Your device will also potentially be covered by AppleCare through its entire planned term of use. Lastly, you'll more frequently be on *newer* hardware, which will often matter more than being on better tier hardware from within an older generation (especially since Apple silicon is still new and rapidly iterating).
All of that said, if you're making use of that extra RAM and disk today then you're spending your money on something that has material value today, rather than the hypothetical promise that it may last you a little while longer.
I just placed an order on a macbook pro m4 pro with 24gb 1tb ssd. These is my first laptop in awhile like 20 years I didn't have a laptop. I'm trying to start to learn how to video edit and graphic design. Hope I can learn how to use a mac.
64 GB M3 Max user here. Get as much memory as you can afford to get. The peace of mind from not having to worry about memory constraints is priceless.
I feel the most value for money apple laptop is to buy M4 MBP for 1700-1800$ currently. Can easily last you 6-7 yrs even more.
There is no such thing as most value for money. If you need to run several containers, UI tests, iphone simulators, machine learning, you need a lot of RAM and therefore the best value is not the 1800$ option but rather >3000$
Placed an order on an 14in M4 Max, 64GB and 2TB storage. I'm a video editor with occasional light motion graphics projects so this config is enough to last me at least 5 years.
I’m on a 2019 MacBook Pro rn. I do music composition and audio engineering (recording, mixing, mastering). I often hit 50+GB when i have bigger sessions not even using the latest and greatest software virtual instruments, which require even more samples loaded into ram for best performance. I am wondering if i should stay with 64GB or get more since currently video memory is separate. Most projects will hit 32GB which is why i got 64, but now i’m doing bigger things at times and it gets close to it. Is 12GB enough for video if I’m running multiple monitors? My current GPU has like 8GB of vram and it struggles at times i think.
64GB or even 128GB can absolutely make sense if you're running multiple Virtual Machines, and even more so if you're running local LLMs.
I got the 128 GB through my job to run big AI models, and it still doesn't break 64 GB, so I would say 64 GB is fine for almost everyone
SSD swap isn’t an issue anymore
Just a very few % in 5 years
Thanks, that's the video I was looking for. I just bought the M4 24gb, I'm heavy on multitasking and background tasks, and I want everything snappier, since I have a 16gb M1
Thanks for the awesome video! I wish you the best as a youtuber
PGGB, if you upsample audio to DSS512 or DSD1024 you'll need 128, better yet 256G to do 2 channels at the same time.
I am undecided between two models: the 14-inch model with 32GB RAM and an M4 chip, and the 14-inch model with 48GB RAM and an M4 Pro chip. I use Xcode, Android Studio, IntelliJ IDEA, and PyCharm intensively. Which one would you recommend?
definitely 48GB
thanks
Hell man I waited so long I gave in and bought the 24. It's almost always at yellow
Here's a timestamped summary of the 12-minute video:
---
****0:00** - **1:00****
Apple has increased the base RAM on new Macs to **16 GB**, replacing the previous 8 GB. The video raises the question: **Is 16 GB enough, or should you upgrade?** It introduces the concept of unified memory, which Apple uses to share RAM between the system and GPU dynamically.
---
****1:01** - **2:00****
Unified memory allows Macs to divide the memory pool dynamically between tasks like apps, system processes, and GPU needs. If RAM gets pushed to its limits, **swap memory** kicks in, where the system uses the SSD as backup memory. However, frequent swapping can cause **wear and tear** on the SSD over time.
---
****2:01** - **3:00****
The **16 GB base memory** is a significant improvement over the older 8 GB Macs. While refurbished 8 GB M2 Macs may seem like a bargain, the narrator advises against them, as 8 GB struggles with anything beyond basic tasks like web browsing and email.
---
****3:01** - **4:00****
Memory demands are increasing as Apple develops advanced features and apps get more complex. The narrator highlights that swap usage (due to limited RAM) can reduce SSD longevity. Choosing more RAM can avoid swap reliance and ensure better long-term performance.
---
****4:01** - **5:00****
For most users, **16 GB** is the sweet spot. The narrator discusses their own workflow, which includes tasks like video editing, research, AI tools, and scriptwriting. Even with heavy usage, **16 GB holds up well** but often pushes memory usage to 90-95%, occasionally relying on swap.
---
****5:01** - **6:00****
For demanding tasks like heavy multitasking or large files, **24 GB** is a noticeable upgrade. On the **M4 Pro MacBook** with 24 GB, performance feels “snappier,” and swap memory usage is almost eliminated. However, the narrator recommends **16 GB for lighter Macs** like the MacBook Air or Mac Mini.
---
****6:01** - **7:00****
For users who need more headroom for growth or heavy multitasking, the **24 GB default on the M4 Pro MacBook Pro** is ideal. It future-proofs performance and feels like the new standard, similar to how 16 GB was 3 years ago.
---
****7:01** - **8:00****
If you’re dealing with advanced tasks like 4K/8K video editing, **massive photo exports, or Xcode projects**, you might need more than 24 GB. Upgrading to **32 GB or 48 GB** offers significant performance improvements, but these upgrades come with steep costs.
---
****8:01** - **9:00****
The narrator emphasizes that upgrading beyond **48 GB** should only be done if you **know you need it**. For example, a **14-inch MacBook Pro with 48 GB** costs $2,400, and at that price, it’s better to upgrade to a higher-end M4 Pro model for better overall performance.
---
****9:01** - **10:00****
The **M4 Max** models offer default memory configurations up to **36 GB**. While 36 GB is great, users can upgrade to **64 GB** for an extra $200, which provides headroom for heavy workflows like simulations, gaming, and large-scale content creation.
---
****10:01** - **11:00****
The top-tier option is **128 GB RAM**, replacing the previous 96 GB limit. However, upgrading to **128 GB costs $1,000**-essentially the price of a MacBook Air. The narrator argues this is **overkill** for most users unless you’re working on Hollywood-level VFX or training AI models.
---
****11:01** - **12:00****
In conclusion, the narrator suggests picking a Mac based on the **chip** (M4 Pro, Max, etc.) and your real memory needs. Recommendations are:
- **16 GB** for most users.
- **24 GB** for future-proofing.
- **48 GB** for heavy work.
- Avoid 128 GB unless absolutely necessary.
With this guide, users can make smarter choices about RAM upgrades.
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291 RAM V1? Did he forget to change the title?
Dude where's your accent from?