I see a lot of people get a ‘winter beater’ car only for the winter. I’ve got a 2015 Mercedes metris that I drive no matter the weather or season. Kept it like new with a wrap and protective undercoat sprays. I clean and respray the whole undercarriage every 4-5 years and spray oil on top of it before every winter as a extra precaution. Probably not the easiest and cleanest way but there’s not a single spec of rust on it. Nice to see I’m not the only one recognizing the oversalting of our roads.
Living in Canada my whole life You can take precautions and it definitely helps but eventually the salt does win. The only real way to keep your vehicle from rotting out is buying a winter beater and leave your truck parked. Been doing this for years and it's nice having a vehicle around that u don't care about.
Even if you can get around the salt they still sand the hills and intersections and the counties don't exactly buy good quality sand. You end up eating rocks from the mess they put down, especially on the newer trucks like GMC and Chev with the flat high fronts. Mine lasted 1300KM before the first golf ball sized bullseye.
Clear and concise walkthrough, thank you for this. I grew up in a hot dry climate and the army sent my fam and I to germany for a few years and we'll definitely need the protection from salt here. Thank you for the education!
Jason, thank you for this. I actually went onto TH-cam last night to message you about your suggestions for auto waxes...& I find this. Perfect! I rarely make comments, but wanted you to know that I really appreciate your attention to detail & the systems that you have implemented for the execution of your tasks. Great stuff!
Have used it on my truck in Connecticut since I bought it in 2016 , plow with it , still have rust showing up but not like it would have if not spraying it . Each year brush off the rust , frame paint it, and spray new fluid film
We use salt-gone. It’s a salt neutralizer that helps a lot. Safe for ceramic coats and undercoat. Another thing you can try as far as oil is NH oil for undercoat. Holds on much better than the fluid film.
Excellent! We live outside of Fairbanks Alaska where they do not use salt because it is too cold. It is common to see trucks from the 1980s in town. My 93 F150 has less rust than my 2-year old pickup when I lived outside of Lansing Michigan.
VERY well explained. great video. looking at buying a new truck in the spring and it’s one that is finally worth it to take the time and protect it and take care of the paint and stuff. definitely will be saving this video and trying it next fall. thanks for the great information
I started watching your channel in regards to traditional archery, but I tell you what you have great gems of advice on your other videos like this... Not having a dad around to bug, these videos on campers, trucks etc are really great. Your definitely have a gift for explaining/presenting information.
Very much appreciate this comment! So people yell at me for the extra content not being hunting related. I really enjoy the variety of videos and glad you do as well. Thank you.
@@SamkoTradBow I second his comment, I wonder if you would get better engagement if you did these types of tips under a different brand/name. I am sure a lot of people would value this stuff but for whatever reason don't look to a 'traditional bowhunting and wilderness podcast" account for it. You've said before for the amount of videos you have you wonder why you don't have more followers/views. Just a thought, I dont imagine you are the type to take offense. cheers!
@@peterthomas7562 no offense taken and you make great points. I have thought about making another channel before. But I've come to realize I have a very solid base of followers that help people in the comments and treat each other very well. I like this family type base. So I honestly am not worried about chasing views or followers anymore. For the last couple years I just make videos on what I want and think will help my family base of viewers. Thata why I make 2 vids a week every week. At minimum 1 video a week is always hunting related and the other is my choice (still often hunting, but I can do different topics like this).
Very informative video thank you! I just bought a used 2011 honda accord and live up north so i wanted to research how to keep it looking pretty and prevent the frame from rusting out from my area!
I live in Southern MN and I drive a 96 Chevy 3/4 ton truck. My truck still has zero rust on it. All I do is wash it once a week in the summer and twice a week in the winter, and I always put a ceramic coat on it. I think the main thing is to just not let the salt sit on the vehicle for a long time.
I live in Northern Illinois, we get same road treatment here too, by the ton!! One of the things I do when the weather starts to change and it rains instead of snows, is to drive my 4Runner in the rain for a long time in addition to hand washing the undercarriage. Driving it in the snow/salt slush got all that salt into every nook and cranny so I figure driving it in the rain will get it out of the same places.
Rain water picks up asphalt, dirt and concrete grime which bonds to the vehicle as a film. This requires agitation to remove and that’s the rub, no pun intended. It’s why you want to run your vehicle through an automatic car wash,before and after exposure to salt, which delivers undercarriage wash, rust inhibitor, and ceramic sealant. Just driving in rain will not remove salt but instead assure it bonds to vehicle.
I've been fighting this for decades and I can tell that driving in the heavy rain after multiple washes is the only thing that actually finally flushes it away. It is in between spot welded panels within the doors quarters firewall vents. In the frame between all the gas lines and brake lines and their mounting brackets I could go on. After hardcore pressure washing underneath the vehicle when it dries you can see the salt crystals growing out from where the salt was hidden. Road salt should be outlawed.
The salt on your paint should be the least of your worries. The under carriage is where all the damage is done. Drive the $70,00.00 trucks in the summer and the $15,00.00 trucks in the winter.
I live in Chicagoland. A drive thru car wash is heated. Also, the one I go to does a rinse and soap first step. Then the brushes. Never had any issue in many years with my trucks.
Fluid film work awesome,I know people that have used it. We live in southern ontario Canada where there is salt and sand on the roads all winter. I personally have had a product called rust check or krown applied on the underside of my vehicle and also sprayed inside all the panels of my vehicle,with a long 360 degree wand that can reach far inside the panels and coat everything with this product. I have also used wax for the exterior for years but now I have applied Adams graphene ceramic coating to my paint and use a wipe on wipe off easy and quick to apply to protect coating similar to the Maguires ceramic wax ( I use the last coat) that I use likely 2or 3 times per year. I keep my vehicles for usually 10 to 15 years and are still in amazing shape when I upgrade to a 2 or 3 year old vehicle. Works great for me so far.
Awesome system. Ive heard great things about krown too. Fluid film also makes that 360 degree hose and tip. Its a great thing to get into all the frame holes as well.
Good video. To properly get rid of salt on the vehicle with Salt Neutralizer from Rohmar, we spray it on and rinse it off. The fluid film I buy in five gallon pails for a fraction of the cost of spry cans. You will save the cost of the sprayer on your first application. On our dump trucks with plows and sanders, we would reapply the fluid film every month.
This is too funny. I live just north of you on the eastern end of the UP. I made a similar video. I'm a mail contractor and I rinse daily if it's 19F or above. I pay attention to all the vehicles in our area and you can see where the salt settles and causes rust. I have a 2016 Ram 1500 and is almost rust free.
I'm also in the Midwest. I absolutely recommend and agree with an OIL based underbody spray. A lot of people also think that rust occurs in the Winter or cold months. This is incorrect. The process of rust actually occurs in the warmer months. I don't remember the actual temp but rust needs to have a warmer temp to activate. This is why vehicles rust in the Spring, Summer, and Fall months. Once salt gets up into the crevices and cracks of a vehicles body, the cycle of freezing and warming up will actually swell the joints and start breaking down the metal, spreading the seams apart and starting to bubble, then crack, and scale the body parts. This cycle over time is what destroys a vehicle. You need to keep the salt out of these places where 2 metal parts are joined such as a weld or any kind of overlap or bond. Once the salt gets up into these joints, it's almost impossible to get it back out. Again, it's the process of freezing, then warming up, that expands and contracts breaking down the metal.
This is very true! If you go in your heated garage and back out in the cold weather daily without getting the salt off, this kills your vehicle fast! If you can’t get it off, stay parked outside.
@@greganderson2741 never thought about that much. Bit always parked outside anyway. A garage is for building and working on stuff. Not to park a vehicle in in my opinion. So mine were never in a garage
Now I heard with fluid film it’s recommended to drive on a dirt road to get the underside covered up dust because apparently the dust acts as another layer of protection. Is this true? Or is that just an old tale?
Yup live in NH and the salt sits all winter cause they use some kind of adhesive mix in it to stay stuck to the road and for traction . Like polly sand and calcium mix. Not even your every day salt lol. This dude got the best video I've seen yet👍although i disagree with amoral cause it stays sticky and will actually attract more salt. Imo but other then that this is the best solution vs oil dripping from your truck from having it sprayed or lockimg in the salt with hard undercoat
B L O. Boiled linseed oil on all non-painted surfaces. Costs about $20 a gallon, a gallon will last years. Use a cheap spray bottle to apply and you can cut it with paint thinner so it goes through sprayer better. B L O will take a few days to harden (plasticize) and it will smell like a dirty old deep fryer until it does. It's basically shellac that keeps air and moisture from contacting the metal and will last through salt season and then do it again next fall. Been using the same gallon for 10 years on a 2013 Nissan Titan and the frame and underbody is rust free here in Wisconsin. Don't spray on exhaust or you'll smell like that deep fryer for weeks. Also, paint sealants are better than wax.
Amazing advice sir. My question is should I write brush as much surface rust as possible ale before oiling it down? Or does it matter. Does the oil stop the “eating” of the metal?
I had my Tacoma Ceramic coated ( Opti-coat Pro Plus) 7 years ago and the paint still looks fantastic. I do the demineralizing wash every spring and use Iron remover in spring as well as clay bar. . I undercoat the truck every September and every May and take the truck in for a touchless wash once a week in winter and i dont select the under carriage blast option more then a few times all winter.
Great info. Thank you for sharing. Do you have tips and tricks for cleaning treating semi-boxed in body parts? I.e. the infamous ford fender pinch welds and rockers?
Will work great. Might be worth looking at the gallon or 5 gallon option and thier spray gun for your semi. Will probably save money and be done in a third of the time vs rattle cans
Oops I was talking about if you are applying the fluid film to the frame underneath. Not sure if I mentioned that in the video. But that's what I was talking about in the comment
Great video. Aboyfive minutes into it and can say it's a good idea to protect expensive rig but protect yourself wear a mask to protect your lungs. Sealayis like vaping and can cause damage to your lungs. Three m makes a set of chemical filters and a mask that you can press and change out for different tasks asbestos filters for dust that last a long time to chemical filters with equil long usage. Thanks again and keep on trucking 🎉
Excellent. Just bought a newer car from down south. It's got no rust on it. And I want to keep it that way. I live in upstate NY. So Traditionally here cars are z-barted but I'm afraid if zbart undercoat the bottom of the vehicle it; will just trap in any existing oxidation. Your methods are simple but my guess is incredibly effective. Excellent content would love to see a video of you showing us your fall prep and winter maintenance in regards to these materials and there application. The world needs more people that are putting out content like this. Keep it up ! Thanks J
Yep I should make a detailed video on it. But for undercoating I do it myself with the stuff I mention in the video. It's slipping my mind right now (fluid film). But I buy it by the 6 or 8 pack of cans. Holds up for about a year or so. The pressure wash under there and repeat each year
For the plastic and rubber I use 303 aka armor all. I spray my cv boots with it as well as it helps keep the rubber pliable. Spray the cv boots, ball joints etc every oil change on a brand new (since 2010) all wheel drive suv I have and I’ve never had to replace a cv axel or ball joint yet. Keeping the rubber happy, moist, pliable extends the life of it. Spraying them is much easier than replacing them. 165k on it so far not a single bad joint or boot.
I go to a local automatic wash at least weekly and buy the wash that includes undercarriage, rust inhibitor, and ceramic sealant. I hand wash wheelhousings with care to get into all reachable areas. That’s it and so far no rust.
Great Video I live in New England I have a 92 Volvo 740 WGN not a trace of Rust I've used Fluid film for 6 years started out at first with old motor oil.
Good video and info. Makes me glad I don’t live up there. We don’t get enough snow/ice here for it. But I’m sure this would work the same wonders on a truck that runs gravel and dirt roads all the time. Mud/sand probably worse because no one thinks about it rusting out quarter panels.
When I bought my GMC I had it coated big time underneath then had it put into a room that heated up to 150 degrees and was clear coated and then it dried.It is a 2015 and it is holding up very nicely.If I don’t trade it in I am going to get it under coated again after I get it washed underneath .I think I’m going to have it Krown .
I took my truck to line x and had the entire truck undercoated. They did a fantastic job and every spring they wash and retreat it for 150.00 done and done. Of course I keep it washed and waxed myself as well.
Is it ? I've heard bad things about using a hard undercoat especially if you already have rust. Unless you do it from the factory. I can't decide going that route or an oil based coating but if you truly think that works good then you made my decision even harder😂
My truck was brand new when I did it. Never had any salt on it. I talked to both shops oil and asphalt based. I decided to go with line x. Plus both will retreat every year. Both have warranties of some type if you keep up with it as well. Go with the shop you like and trust if you already have rust maybe the liquid stuff will be better for your truck. Just do something.
I use waste motor oil mixed with mineral spirits to thin it and then spray it on. I don’t know how much “fluid-film” costs or how well it holds up but we use “CRC SP-400 corrosion inhibitor” at work all the time to store items. It’s like wax and it’s very difficult to remove. Costs about $10-15/can.
Thanks for the video ! I was wondering if you have any suggestions for a truck with existing rust I am doing some frame repairs new rocker panels now etc was wondering if you have any suggestions for protecting it in the future thanks !
What works better than is M P T classic polish . Follow directions you can put several layers on over the warm months . More the better and it will last all winter...
Pop your tail lights out and spray so your bed wheel wells don’t rot out , also drill and install rubber plugs in your doors ,tailgate,and rocker panels so you can d spray in there also .
Spray rust proofing in all the body panels take the taillights out spray down the boxsides in the rockers, doors, fenders, tailgate and the whole undercarriage
Yep when I was in Northern Michigan deer would come to the roads to eat the salt as well. Never thought about parking my truck out there for them to pick clean😂
@pgrut8880 that's all I use now. I do this. Every 2 months I spray the teuck with turtle was seal and shile paint sealant (worth researching as it's unbelievable how chemical resistant and long lasting durability it has). Then after I do that I use mequires ceramic spray wax over top. And every 4 or 5 washes I re apply the ceramic wax.
True but any high pressure wash is going to be hard on a salt or mud covered vehicle. The salt acts as an abrasive and the high pressure turns the wash into a light sand blaster micro scratching paint. If possible it's always better to low pressure rinse as much salt off by hand first before the high pressure
I prevent salt damage to my truck by driving a FORD.... salt doesn't bother the aluminum like other metals. Aluminum actually does an excellent job of resisting corrosion, and when aluminum does corrode, the thin coating of aluminum oxide that forms as a result creates a protective shield that inhibits further corrosion. However, salts are extremely corrosive. When salt air and salt water come into contact with aluminum they can cause both the chalky, white coating of aluminum oxide and unpleasant pitting. Fortunately, there’s an easy way to protect aluminum from salt water and prevent unsightly corrosion: a powder coating. Second way is ... I live in California :)
@ Graph Guy……Do you want me to attach a picture of my 2014 F150 Limited to show you what rust did to it and original 22” OEM rims!? No truck is safe from salt unless treated and related. 😮
@@graphguy in this case was actually both. Corrosion on 22” rims, rust on both bumpers and rocker panels. My point is i liked my F150 a lot but had to sell it a@ 6 years old - no manufacturer is rust/corrosion proof in the US market unless you protect it yourself. In Europe way better story and protection. Happy Holidays
Yep thats how my grandfather always kept his cars rust free too. Now we have fluid film and similar products that last longer. But that oil always worked great for my grandpa
I work at a boat yard and we use a heated pressure washer to wash the company trucks. So when I'm done rinsing the trucks, I'll spray the shit out of my truck especially underneath at the frame.
When I grabbed my 2023 Tacoma trd pro I had it undercoated brand new. Did I screw it up? Dealer and 3 mechanics told me they would do it. Internet said it traps moisture inside frame and rots within. Hope I didn’t ruin this new truck
Many people up north when I lived in michigan got their trucks undercoated for rust protection and worked very well. The process has been around for decades and works well.
Depends on the type of undercoating. Only use an oil/lanolin product. If it's a rubberized or hard coating then yes it will corrode under the undercoating due to chips, cracks allowing water and salt to be trapped under the coating
@appleztooranges Had the dealer spray my Tacoma frame for a recall few years ago. Within two months it flaked off in big pieces. Had to redo it properly which would be to prep the frame and use a wet base that stays pliable such as waxy Fluid film.
Never had anything rust that I kept coated with wd40. My trailers campers vehicles etc. Been doing it for 30 years. But not sure if it technically holds the salt there or not. But it doesn't rust
Years ago there was a product called liquid glass car polish many people loved the product then the company that made it closed . MPT is almost the exact product. It's a fantastic product for your cars paint
Some states use what is liquid calcium which is liquid salt and that is really detrimental on your vehicle. Fortunately if you live in a state that uses anti skid which is a mixture of sand and salt it is not as detrimental but still not great for your vehicle. I just run through a good touch less car wash as much as I can to remove the salt and works great at least once or twice a week. Never really had bad rust issues.
I would just do it in the fall. Salt is the only thing you need to worry about for rotting metal, and by spring its over. I would just hit the undercarriage and be done till next fall
Instead of WD try using trans fluid. I use type F even if you're going to paint as long as you use an oil base enamel paint it should be fine. Try it in an inconspicuous place first. I use it on my work truck great at keeping rust under control as well. I do my leaf springs, every everything love it.
I heard with fluid film you’re supposed to drive on a dirt road because apparently the dust from the dirt road will act as another layer of protection. Is this true? Or just another old tale?
I spray painted all the undercarriage parts of my highlander last week, one layer of the rust proof black paint and one layer of the rubberized undercoating paint. Will this works well also compare to the wax? Can I still apply the products you mentioned over the undercarriage paints?
Can't help much there. I don't know how all the painted stuff works etc. I just spray the fluid film based on the directions. I'm definitely not an expert on what it does and doesn't stick to etc.
@@SamkoTradBow Thank you, i asked my mechanics , they don't recommend rubberized undercoating paint, It is easy to contain moisture and salt on the paint surface, but they do mention white lithium grease. Anyway, road salt is an endless nightmare.
I tape the drain holes shut on the bottom of the doors and use a syringe and hose to inject trans fluid into the bottom of the doors. doors will never rust out.
I hate that road salt is used. The destruction it causes to roads, bridges, plants, vehicles and waterways is massive. Wish they’d go back to plowing and spreading sand like they did when I was a kid.
i purchased a truck right before winter and now getting slammed, i wash my fenders and i try to wash the under often as well, any suggestions on what to do during the winter to help prevent rust?
Being new most truck frames are coated or waxed so it should not be a problem this first year. I'd just do like you are and wash it when I can. In spring I'd fluid film it
avoid using soaps on the undercarriage . Soap underneath will remove protective oils and or fluid film. I just wash the salt off with water on undersides
Washing the vehicle does no good if it's used on a regular basis you drive directly into the salt the next day or on the way home from the car wash. I did it for years on multiple vehicles kept raincoats and gloves and lie on the ground and did it. I'm in Central Illinois and there is a permanent layer on the road exactly like what he said during the snow season. They use multiple forms of salt it doesn't matter if they're all electrolytes. The only thing that will drastically slow it down is the fluid film New Hampshire oil type coatings that you apply every fall.. I'm sure the home brewed oil sprays work too. The very best thing to is parking in the fall. The cost of an old vehicle to drive in the salt season is more than offset by the depreciation to the good vehicle you parked.
My 2019 Jeep wrangler is rusting in the sub frame, every hole, don't understand why they didn't plug the holes with rubber plugs. It's almost as if they want us to buy new vehicles every 5 years. Luckily I caught the rust in time and bought a Lemmer oil sprayer this year. Fluid film and Surface Shield.
Fluid film is a great product, but doesn’t come with a warranty. I get Fluid Film professionally applied once a year for $150. They guarantee no rust from the window line down for as long as I own it as long as you get it applied within 6 months from purchase (new vehicles only) and once a year afterwards. Never understood how people can dish out $60,000 for a new truck, add a bunch of goodies, but skip this step. After 2 years, the whole underside will be crusty, and after 7 years, you got some nasty rust holes.
Fellas, y'all doing it right, urr just wasting $$ tho. I fight salt and rust in PA. Get u a oil, wax spray gun, make 1 etc, save up oil and trans fluid changes. Mix .5 quarts of oil, trans fluid, 1 tube of grease and a couple wax rings or bees wax in a pot, heat and mix. Spray, brush this where u want under vehicle. On outside use a good ceramic/graphene hydrophobic type coating. This can also be done on a used vehicle. Just get rid of surface rust with needle scaler, etc and use a good 2 part coating like Master Coat, then spray with urr $10 oil n wax coating. I'm not against any wax sold, it's just that they have no petroleum products in them. A vehicle is a big investment that will lose value. So the longer u can keep it rust free the slower it will lose that value. The petroleum products get into the metal and insure that even if wax is gone the oil, trans, grease will still provide way more than enough protection. It will not wash off, even with a steam jenny. Been doing this for decades. My dad was shown by my pap and pap done this since late 60s. No rust issues ever. Again not saying anybody's way is wrong. My way is just way way cheaper. And lasts alot longer. Ask anybody who's worked on any machinery if they say any rust where machine had any leaks of oils or grease. Master Coat was invented by a NJ road and bridge guy for keeping the steel infrastructure from rusting. Ppl complain about rust on cars. Think of all the rust on all bridges, overpasses etc from salt. We do need to change this but in mean time, protect urr autos.
I know another expert on internet. But I challenge anyone to try this even in a small amount on brush and throw outside, tie under vehicle n drive. All machines that I've torn apart, restored, etc that had leaks of oils and grease never rusted. Wax alone is good, HELL anything is better than nothing. I've had to scrap more autos cause of rust. Not engines and other mech issues. And u don't have to do this every year. Put on a heavy coat and it will last 5 plus years. I'm on yr 4 with my town car. Still looks good. If you're gonna keep a auto, etc that costs what a house did 20 yrs ago, protect it from rust.
Back in 70's we would just use sand on the roads with a tiny bit of salt to keep the sand from freezing. Now they just use pure salt which has ruined wells for water, rust out your car in no time, kills all plant life on the edges of road, the salt destroys the road beds!!! Isn't it time we found some other method of clearing roads of ice and snow!!!!!!!!!
1 part pentrating oil, 1 part 80w 90 gear oil, 2 parts transmission fluid. Penetrating makes it creep , transmission oul kills rust, gear oil makes it sticky. Canadian gold. Much cheaper works WAYYYY BETTER than fluid film. Doesn't wash off...
When I was in the Philippines the guys there wash their cars and trucks with kerosene. Kerosene is actually an light oil and gets in all the cracks and crevice. After washing then they clean the kerosene off the surfaces. They have a similar salt problem but theirs is in the air 24/7 all year!
I see a lot of people get a ‘winter beater’ car only for the winter. I’ve got a 2015 Mercedes metris that I drive no matter the weather or season. Kept it like new with a wrap and protective undercoat sprays. I clean and respray the whole undercarriage every 4-5 years and spray oil on top of it before every winter as a extra precaution. Probably not the easiest and cleanest way but there’s not a single spec of rust on it. Nice to see I’m not the only one recognizing the oversalting of our roads.
@@lufthansase2584 perfect. Love thet ypu take good care of it
Living in Canada my whole life You can take precautions and it definitely helps but eventually the salt does win. The only real way to keep your vehicle from rotting out is buying a winter beater and leave your truck parked. Been doing this for years and it's nice having a vehicle around that u don't care about.
Yep many do that. We called em winter beater with a heater.
It’s crazy. I’ve seen online that there’s a few 2017 and up silverados with rotted frames. It’s absurd
Yup
Even if you can get around the salt they still sand the hills and intersections and the counties don't exactly buy good quality sand. You end up eating rocks from the mess they put down, especially on the newer trucks like GMC and Chev with the flat high fronts. Mine lasted 1300KM before the first golf ball sized bullseye.
@@foonus406 that’s crazy. They charged all this money for trucks. Now I’ve herd gm is switching to boxed frames. Not good for Canadian winters lol
Clear and concise walkthrough, thank you for this. I grew up in a hot dry climate and the army sent my fam and I to germany for a few years and we'll definitely need the protection from salt here. Thank you for the education!
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Just got a new truck definitely doing this. Michigan is brutal on vehicles.
Congrats on the new truck
Jason, thank you for this. I actually went onto TH-cam last night to message you about your suggestions for auto waxes...& I find this. Perfect! I rarely make comments, but wanted you to know that I really appreciate your attention to detail & the systems that you have implemented for the execution of your tasks. Great stuff!
Thank you. Glad you ate enjoying the content and ask any questions anytime!!
Have used it on my truck in Connecticut since I bought it in 2016 , plow with it , still have rust showing up but not like it would have if not spraying it . Each year brush off the rust , frame paint it, and spray new fluid film
We use salt-gone. It’s a salt neutralizer that helps a lot. Safe for ceramic coats and undercoat. Another thing you can try as far as oil is NH oil for undercoat. Holds on much better than the fluid film.
Great tips. Thank you
Excellent! We live outside of Fairbanks Alaska where they do not use salt because it is too cold. It is common to see trucks from the 1980s in town. My 93 F150 has less rust than my 2-year old pickup when I lived outside of Lansing Michigan.
Yep salt is really bad. And michigan is one of the worse states for how much they use
Salt use in MI is no joke! I live in GR
VERY well explained. great video. looking at buying a new truck in the spring and it’s one that is finally worth it to take the time and protect it and take care of the paint and stuff. definitely will be saving this video and trying it next fall. thanks for the great information
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I started watching your channel in regards to traditional archery, but I tell you what you have great gems of advice on your other videos like this... Not having a dad around to bug, these videos on campers, trucks etc are really great. Your definitely have a gift for explaining/presenting information.
Very much appreciate this comment! So people yell at me for the extra content not being hunting related. I really enjoy the variety of videos and glad you do as well. Thank you.
@@SamkoTradBow I second his comment, I wonder if you would get better engagement if you did these types of tips under a different brand/name. I am sure a lot of people would value this stuff but for whatever reason don't look to a 'traditional bowhunting and wilderness podcast" account for it. You've said before for the amount of videos you have you wonder why you don't have more followers/views. Just a thought, I dont imagine you are the type to take offense. cheers!
@@peterthomas7562 no offense taken and you make great points. I have thought about making another channel before. But I've come to realize I have a very solid base of followers that help people in the comments and treat each other very well. I like this family type base. So I honestly am not worried about chasing views or followers anymore. For the last couple years I just make videos on what I want and think will help my family base of viewers. Thata why I make 2 vids a week every week. At minimum 1 video a week is always hunting related and the other is my choice (still often hunting, but I can do different topics like this).
@@SamkoTradBow I say no reason for another channel your titles explain what your going to talk about easy enough to keep scrolling
@@guyinknapp great point
Thank you from a fellow northern Michigan resident.
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Thank you so much, I live in NY getting ready for my first winter ❄️
Winters are tough on a vehicle. But you will love new York in the winter. It's beautiful.
I actually enjoyed this actual video.
Very informative video thank you! I just bought a used 2011 honda accord and live up north so i wanted to research how to keep it looking pretty and prevent the frame from rusting out from my area!
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From Chicago good set of mud flaps will help a lot
That is very true
I live in Southern MN and I drive a 96 Chevy 3/4 ton truck. My truck still has zero rust on it. All I do is wash it once a week in the summer and twice a week in the winter, and I always put a ceramic coat on it. I think the main thing is to just not let the salt sit on the vehicle for a long time.
Love the 90s Chevys! and yep thats a great way to beat the salt.
I live in Northern Illinois, we get same road treatment here too, by the ton!! One of the things I do when the weather starts to change and it rains instead of snows, is to drive my 4Runner in the rain for a long time in addition to hand washing the undercarriage. Driving it in the snow/salt slush got all that salt into every nook and cranny so I figure driving it in the rain will get it out of the same places.
Yep agree. Each spring after the snow is gone I would always look for puddles too to accomplish the same.
Rain water picks up asphalt, dirt and concrete grime which bonds to the vehicle as a film. This requires agitation to remove and that’s the rub, no pun intended. It’s why you want to run your vehicle through an automatic car wash,before and after exposure to salt, which delivers undercarriage wash, rust inhibitor, and ceramic sealant. Just driving in rain will not remove salt but instead assure it bonds to vehicle.
Definitely a free undercarriage wash do the same thing.😊
I've been fighting this for decades and I can tell that driving in the heavy rain after multiple washes is the only thing that actually finally flushes it away. It is in between spot welded panels within the doors quarters firewall vents. In the frame between all the gas lines and brake lines and their mounting brackets I could go on. After hardcore pressure washing underneath the vehicle when it dries you can see the salt crystals growing out from where the salt was hidden. Road salt should be outlawed.
The salt on your paint should be the least of your worries. The under carriage is where all the damage is done. Drive the $70,00.00 trucks in the summer and the $15,00.00 trucks in the winter.
can do that too
Thick fluid film protects the frame/undercarriage. I’ve done it for years, no rust. Rust belt.
@joshuathomas6275 do you spray the salt off fluid film in winter ? Or leave the underside ?
I live in Chicagoland. A drive thru car wash is heated. Also, the one I go to does a rinse and soap first step. Then the brushes. Never had any issue in many years with my trucks.
Sounds like a great car wash
Thank you for making this video!!! 💯💯
@@autumnlarocque4788 glad you enjoyed it
Wow.. I found this information very useful for my 2013 RAM 1500 and I gotta keep her clean. right on brother 💪🏽🇺🇸
@@91cdlatham glad you enjoyed it
Fluid film work awesome,I know people that have used it. We live in southern ontario Canada where there is salt and sand on the roads all winter. I personally have had a product called rust check or krown applied on the underside of my vehicle and also sprayed inside all the panels of my vehicle,with a long 360 degree wand that can reach far inside the panels and coat everything with this product. I have also used wax for the exterior for years but now I have applied Adams graphene ceramic coating to my paint and use a wipe on wipe off easy and quick to apply to protect coating similar to the Maguires ceramic wax ( I use the last coat) that I use likely 2or 3 times per year. I keep my vehicles for usually 10 to 15 years and are still in amazing shape when I upgrade to a 2 or 3 year old vehicle. Works great for me so far.
Awesome system. Ive heard great things about krown too. Fluid film also makes that 360 degree hose and tip. Its a great thing to get into all the frame holes as well.
Good video. To properly get rid of salt on the vehicle with Salt Neutralizer from Rohmar, we spray it on and rinse it off. The fluid film I buy in five gallon pails for a fraction of the cost of spry cans. You will save the cost of the sprayer on your first application. On our dump trucks with plows and sanders, we would reapply the fluid film every month.
Thank you for the amazing tips and info. Greatly appreciated. And others will appreciate it too.
Oh man I love that garage
Thanks
This is too funny. I live just north of you on the eastern end of the UP. I made a similar video. I'm a mail contractor and I rinse daily if it's 19F or above. I pay attention to all the vehicles in our area and you can see where the salt settles and causes rust. I have a 2016 Ram 1500 and is almost rust free.
Yep tough conditions up there.
I'm also in the Midwest. I absolutely recommend and agree with an OIL based underbody spray. A lot of people also think that rust occurs in the Winter or cold months. This is incorrect. The process of rust actually occurs in the warmer months. I don't remember the actual temp but rust needs to have a warmer temp to activate. This is why vehicles rust in the Spring, Summer, and Fall months. Once salt gets up into the crevices and cracks of a vehicles body, the cycle of freezing and warming up will actually swell the joints and start breaking down the metal, spreading the seams apart and starting to bubble, then crack, and scale the body parts. This cycle over time is what destroys a vehicle. You need to keep the salt out of these places where 2 metal parts are joined such as a weld or any kind of overlap or bond. Once the salt gets up into these joints, it's almost impossible to get it back out. Again, it's the process of freezing, then warming up, that expands and contracts breaking down the metal.
Fantastic information and very informative. Appreciate the comment.
Then I guess you shouldn’t park it in your heated garage.
This is very true! If you go in your heated garage and back out in the cold weather daily without getting the salt off, this kills your vehicle fast! If you can’t get it off, stay parked outside.
@@greganderson2741 never thought about that much. Bit always parked outside anyway. A garage is for building and working on stuff. Not to park a vehicle in in my opinion. So mine were never in a garage
Thanks for the great video !
Thanks for the product link and reference on underbody protectant. I was just talking about researching something for that last week
Fluid film is amazing stuff. You will be very happy
That fluid film works great under that mower deck too.
Yep, and trailers, farm gear, etc. Such amazing stuff
Now I heard with fluid film it’s recommended to drive on a dirt road to get the underside covered up dust because apparently the dust acts as another layer of protection. Is this true? Or is that just an old tale?
I have a 1993 dodge ram with zero rust and I can tell you from my experience the only thing it works for rust is not to drive your truck in the winter
Yup live in NH and the salt sits all winter cause they use some kind of adhesive mix in it to stay stuck to the road and for traction . Like polly sand and calcium mix. Not even your every day salt lol. This dude got the best video I've seen yet👍although i disagree with amoral cause it stays sticky and will actually attract more salt. Imo but other then that this is the best solution vs oil dripping from your truck from having it sprayed or lockimg in the salt with hard undercoat
Yep the amount of salt used now is crazy too. Even when the snow is gone it takes another month of rain to wash away the salt residue from the roads.
B L O. Boiled linseed oil on all non-painted surfaces. Costs about $20 a gallon, a gallon will last years. Use a cheap spray bottle to apply and you can cut it with paint thinner so it goes through sprayer better. B L O will take a few days to harden (plasticize) and it will smell like a dirty old deep fryer until it does. It's basically shellac that keeps air and moisture from contacting the metal and will last through salt season and then do it again next fall. Been using the same gallon for 10 years on a 2013 Nissan Titan and the frame and underbody is rust free here in Wisconsin. Don't spray on exhaust or you'll smell like that deep fryer for weeks. Also, paint sealants are better than wax.
Great tips and suggestions.
Preventative maintenance is the best maintenance.
Agree 100%
Might have to do fluid film asap!!
Thanks for this info!!
Glad you enjoyed it.
Amazing advice sir. My question is should I write brush as much surface rust as possible ale before oiling it down? Or does it matter. Does the oil stop the “eating” of the metal?
I had my Tacoma Ceramic coated ( Opti-coat Pro Plus) 7 years ago and the paint still looks fantastic. I do the demineralizing wash every spring and use Iron remover in spring as well as clay bar. . I undercoat the truck every September and every May and take the truck in for a touchless wash once a week in winter and i dont select the under carriage blast option more then a few times all winter.
@@kickingfatality perfect
Great info. Thank you for sharing. Do you have tips and tricks for cleaning treating semi-boxed in body parts? I.e. the infamous ford fender pinch welds and rockers?
Fluid film makes a hose and sprayer that gets into the frame holes and door drain holes and sprays 360 degrees to coat the insides.
Excellent way you explained this.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you sir! I’m putting this On my semi truck!!
Will work great. Might be worth looking at the gallon or 5 gallon option and thier spray gun for your semi. Will probably save money and be done in a third of the time vs rattle cans
Oops I was talking about if you are applying the fluid film to the frame underneath. Not sure if I mentioned that in the video. But that's what I was talking about in the comment
Great video. Aboyfive minutes into it and can say it's a good idea to protect expensive rig but protect yourself wear a mask to protect your lungs. Sealayis like vaping and can cause damage to your lungs. Three m makes a set of chemical filters and a mask that you can press and change out for different tasks asbestos filters for dust that last a long time to chemical filters with equil long usage. Thanks again and keep on trucking 🎉
Great idea. I have one of those 3m Chem masks either the pink filters I used for my chemicals pressure washing.
Excellent. Just bought a newer car from down south. It's got no rust on it. And I want to keep it that way. I live in upstate NY. So Traditionally here cars are z-barted but I'm afraid if zbart undercoat the bottom of the vehicle it; will just trap in any existing oxidation. Your methods are simple but my guess is incredibly effective. Excellent content would love to see a video of you showing us your fall prep and winter maintenance in regards to these materials and there application. The world needs more people that are putting out content like this. Keep it up ! Thanks J
Put wd40 in my Cheerios
Yep I should make a detailed video on it. But for undercoating I do it myself with the stuff I mention in the video. It's slipping my mind right now (fluid film). But I buy it by the 6 or 8 pack of cans. Holds up for about a year or so. The pressure wash under there and repeat each year
Do you spray muffler and rubber gaskets underneath as well? Maybe do a video in spring to show in details if you have time. Thank you so much Sir
@@milandakic8599 I do not spray those. Just the frame and brackets.
Find a Krown dealer in NY. Annual application.
Spring application is best
For the plastic and rubber I use 303 aka armor all. I spray my cv boots with it as well as it helps keep the rubber pliable. Spray the cv boots, ball joints etc every oil change on a brand new (since 2010) all wheel drive suv I have and I’ve never had to replace a cv axel or ball joint yet. Keeping the rubber happy, moist, pliable extends the life of it. Spraying them is much easier than replacing them. 165k on it so far not a single bad joint or boot.
Agree 100% and great advsie
I go to a local automatic wash at least weekly and buy the wash that includes undercarriage, rust inhibitor, and ceramic sealant. I hand wash wheelhousings with care to get into all reachable areas. That’s it and so far no rust.
Sounds like it's working good for you. Well done
Remember Don't wash under car all Winter if you fluid film it wait until may 20th reapply fluid all summer
Great Video I live in New England I have a 92 Volvo 740 WGN not a trace of Rust I've used Fluid film for 6 years started out at first with old motor oil.
Good video and info. Makes me glad I don’t live up there. We don’t get enough snow/ice here for it. But I’m sure this would work the same wonders on a truck that runs gravel and dirt roads all the time. Mud/sand probably worse because no one thinks about it rusting out quarter panels.
Agree most people don't realize the rust potential from stone chips and from mud caked on places. The fluid film is amazing stuff for any climate.
Salt is worse unless the insides or quarter panels, cab corners get packed with mud. Then salt is a chemical reaction.
@@jackblackattack yep mud and salt are a bad combination. It's a huge problem in Australia with salt in the mud and the impact is huge on vehicles
When I bought my GMC I had it coated big time underneath then had it put into a room that heated up to 150 degrees and was clear coated and then it dried.It is a 2015 and it is holding up very nicely.If I don’t trade it in I am going to get it under coated again after I get it washed underneath .I think I’m going to have it Krown .
Sounds like a awesome system and glad it's working great. Key is to take the initiative to protect it. You have definitely done that!!!
I took my truck to line x and had the entire truck undercoated. They did a fantastic job and every spring they wash and retreat it for 150.00 done and done. Of course I keep it washed and waxed myself as well.
Thats always a great option as well.
Line x type products crack and moisture gets trapped under it. When they reseal it that moisture is still there and promoting rust.
Is it ? I've heard bad things about using a hard undercoat especially if you already have rust. Unless you do it from the factory. I can't decide going that route or an oil based coating but if you truly think that works good then you made my decision even harder😂
My truck was brand new when I did it. Never had any salt on it. I talked to both shops oil and asphalt based. I decided to go with line x. Plus both will retreat every year. Both have warranties of some type if you keep up with it as well. Go with the shop you like and trust if you already have rust maybe the liquid stuff will be better for your truck. Just do something.
I under oil all my vehicles including my 18 wheeler apply cannula bases hand wax 1 to 2 times a year. No rust.
I use waste motor oil mixed with mineral spirits to thin it and then spray it on.
I don’t know how much “fluid-film” costs or how well it holds up but we use “CRC SP-400 corrosion inhibitor” at work all the time to store items. It’s like wax and it’s very difficult to remove. Costs about $10-15/can.
Perfect. Glad you are taking steps to protect your vehicle
Great job. Solid info. Easy to implement. Can’t wait to get to work.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for the video ! I was wondering if you have any suggestions for a truck with existing rust I am doing some frame repairs new rocker panels now etc was wondering if you have any suggestions for protecting it in the future thanks !
Fluid film eats surface rust pretty well. Never tried anything else
What works better than is M P T classic polish . Follow directions you can put several layers on over the warm months . More the better and it will last all winter...
Pop your tail lights out and spray so your bed wheel wells don’t rot out , also drill and install rubber plugs in your doors ,tailgate,and rocker panels so you can d spray in there also .
Great ideas. Thanks
I was curious if there was solutions for these salty roads defently will try on my smaller car
Fluid film works amazing
When you get your first scratch the worry is gone!! I actually use mine for work 🙂
You can visit a self serve car wash. Just make sure its at 40° F for that day and the next day so it dries before frezzing.
In Northern Michigan it could be 4 months before you see a 40 degree 2 day stretch.
Salt on the paint surface won't cause rust, unless the paint is chipped. Ensure to touch up any stone chips as they occur.
Good point and suggestion
Ammo NYC makes a special additive to add to car wash to neutralize road salt
Now that's pretty brilliant
Would love a video showing the process
Now that I'm in Georgia I bought longer need to do it. So probably won't make that one. But many videos on yourube about how to apply fluid film
Also fill bottom of doors with silicone spray through the drain holes
Good tip. Fluid film works good there too
Spray rust proofing in all the body panels take the taillights out spray down the boxsides in the rockers, doors, fenders, tailgate and the whole undercarriage
Yep definitely a good idea if you live in the Salt belt
Need to get car in the air to coat the brake lines etc. Touchless automatic washers should be ok, right?
Some vehicles might need to be on a lift for you to fit under it to spray. Yes touchless car washes are great
I lived in country outside Edmonton Alberta. Lots of salt on roads. Moose would lick my truck clean all winter
Yep when I was in Northern Michigan deer would come to the roads to eat the salt as well. Never thought about parking my truck out there for them to pick clean😂
What about the spray ceramic waxes like Adams spray ceramic. Ceramic is expose to last longer than regular wax.
@pgrut8880 that's all I use now. I do this. Every 2 months I spray the teuck with turtle was seal and shile paint sealant (worth researching as it's unbelievable how chemical resistant and long lasting durability it has). Then after I do that I use mequires ceramic spray wax over top. And every 4 or 5 washes I re apply the ceramic wax.
Great video Thank You for posting.
Glad you enjoyed it
auto car washes that are touchless are great you should clarify the toughness vs touch carwashes
True but any high pressure wash is going to be hard on a salt or mud covered vehicle. The salt acts as an abrasive and the high pressure turns the wash into a light sand blaster micro scratching paint. If possible it's always better to low pressure rinse as much salt off by hand first before the high pressure
I prevent salt damage to my truck by driving a FORD.... salt doesn't bother the aluminum like other metals. Aluminum actually does an excellent job of resisting corrosion, and when aluminum does corrode, the thin coating of aluminum oxide that forms as a result creates a protective shield that inhibits further corrosion. However, salts are extremely corrosive. When salt air and salt water come into contact with aluminum they can cause both the chalky, white coating of aluminum oxide and unpleasant pitting. Fortunately, there’s an easy way to protect aluminum from salt water and prevent unsightly corrosion: a powder coating.
Second way is ... I live in California :)
Yep salts not gonna bother you there
@ Graph Guy……Do you want me to attach a picture of my 2014 F150 Limited to show you what rust did to it and original 22” OEM rims!? No truck is safe from salt unless treated and related. 😮
@Milan Dakic it was not rust, it was corrosion. There is a significant difference and how you prevent it.
@@graphguy in this case was actually both. Corrosion on 22” rims, rust on both bumpers and rocker panels. My point is i liked my F150 a lot but had to sell it a@ 6 years old - no manufacturer is rust/corrosion proof in the US market unless you protect it yourself. In Europe way better story and protection. Happy Holidays
Still have to worry about your frame
a friend of mine would put used oil in a spray bottle and coat every thing under the car in used motor oil every year, his old cars never rusted.
Yep thats how my grandfather always kept his cars rust free too. Now we have fluid film and similar products that last longer. But that oil always worked great for my grandpa
I work at a boat yard and we use a heated pressure washer to wash the company trucks. So when I'm done rinsing the trucks, I'll spray the shit out of my truck especially underneath at the frame.
Fantastic. The heat makes a huge difference
@@SamkoTradBow Yeah it does!
When I grabbed my 2023 Tacoma trd pro I had it undercoated brand new. Did I screw it up? Dealer and 3 mechanics told me they would do it. Internet said it traps moisture inside frame and rots within. Hope I didn’t ruin this new truck
Many people up north when I lived in michigan got their trucks undercoated for rust protection and worked very well. The process has been around for decades and works well.
@@SamkoTradBow that’s what I figured. So screw the internet and TH-cam mechanics saying they trap moisture and make it worse than?
Depends on the type of undercoating. Only use an oil/lanolin product. If it's a rubberized or hard coating then yes it will corrode under the undercoating due to chips, cracks allowing water and salt to be trapped under the coating
@appleztooranges Had the dealer spray my Tacoma frame for a recall few years ago. Within two months it flaked off in big pieces. Had to redo it properly which would be to prep the frame and use a wet base that stays pliable such as waxy Fluid film.
@@3matic7 yep dealers are not always the best at this stuff. Glad you got it done the right way yourself though
Good advice.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks for the tip. I know WD40 is a solvent but for my slow brain, its not gonna trap salt on there?
Never had anything rust that I kept coated with wd40. My trailers campers vehicles etc. Been doing it for 30 years. But not sure if it technically holds the salt there or not. But it doesn't rust
Great video and advice,thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
Years ago there was a product called liquid glass car polish many people loved the product then the company that made it closed . MPT is almost the exact product. It's a fantastic product for your cars paint
I remember liquid glass. Great stuff
Some states use what is liquid calcium which is liquid salt and that is really detrimental on your vehicle. Fortunately if you live in a state that uses anti skid which is a mixture of sand and salt it is not as detrimental but still not great for your vehicle. I just run through a good touch less car wash as much as I can to remove the salt and works great at least once or twice a week. Never really had bad rust issues.
Do you spray the salt off the underside or will it remove the fluid film ?
The fluid film holds very tight. I definitely spray off the under body often
I would just do it in the fall. Salt is the only thing you need to worry about for rotting metal, and by spring its over. I would just hit the undercarriage and be done till next fall
Can do that too.
Instead of WD try using trans fluid. I use type F even if you're going to paint as long as you use an oil base enamel paint it should be fine. Try it in an inconspicuous place first. I use it on my work truck great at keeping rust under control as well. I do my leaf springs, every everything love it.
Thanks for the tip. I live in Georgia now so no more salt here. But others will like this and want to give it a shot
I heard with fluid film you’re supposed to drive on a dirt road because apparently the dust from the dirt road will act as another layer of protection. Is this true? Or just another old tale?
Never heard that before.
Old tale
I spray painted all the undercarriage parts of my highlander last week, one layer of the rust proof black paint and one layer of the rubberized undercoating paint. Will this works well also compare to the wax? Can I still apply the products you mentioned over the undercarriage paints?
Can't help much there. I don't know how all the painted stuff works etc. I just spray the fluid film based on the directions. I'm definitely not an expert on what it does and doesn't stick to etc.
@@SamkoTradBow Thank you, i asked my mechanics , they don't recommend rubberized undercoating paint, It is easy to contain moisture and salt on the paint surface, but they do mention white lithium grease. Anyway, road salt is an endless nightmare.
The one reason looking to swap to a Ford, due to aluminum panels..(My Ram 1500 has the starting of the wheel well rot..)
I seen that fender rot and rocker Rot on many vehicles when I lived in Northern Michigan.
I tape the drain holes shut on the bottom of the doors and use a syringe and hose to inject trans fluid into the bottom of the doors. doors will never rust out.
Yep. Can do the same with fluid film
How do you spray inside doors cause WD40 removes paint
Never hear of wd40 removing paint. I get it on my paint all the time with over spray.
I was looking for southern rust free body parts and someone told me to look in Minnesota. they don’t use salt. Just sand. ?? Any truth to that?
No idea. Hopefully someone that lives there will chime in
Minnesota, Wisconsin use shit loads of salt every winter!
I'M looking for preventing rust with magnesium.
I hate that road salt is used. The destruction it causes to roads, bridges, plants, vehicles and waterways is massive. Wish they’d go back to plowing and spreading sand like they did when I was a kid.
Yep salt is brutal
i purchased a truck right before winter and now getting slammed, i wash my fenders and i try to wash the under often as well, any suggestions on what to do during the winter to help prevent rust?
Being new most truck frames are coated or waxed so it should not be a problem this first year. I'd just do like you are and wash it when I can. In spring I'd fluid film it
avoid using soaps on the undercarriage . Soap underneath will remove protective oils and or fluid film.
I just wash the salt off with water on undersides
Awesome video
Thank you
Paint frame with chassis saver, then coat with pb blaster surface shield. 10x better than fluid film
Amsoil HD Metal Protector is better than all of them
Washing the vehicle does no good if it's used on a regular basis you drive directly into the salt the next day or on the way home from the car wash. I did it for years on multiple vehicles kept raincoats and gloves and lie on the ground and did it. I'm in Central Illinois and there is a permanent layer on the road exactly like what he said during the snow season. They use multiple forms of salt it doesn't matter if they're all electrolytes. The only thing that will drastically slow it down is the fluid film New Hampshire oil type coatings that you apply every fall.. I'm sure the home brewed oil sprays work too. The very best thing to is parking in the fall. The cost of an old vehicle to drive in the salt season is more than offset by the depreciation to the good vehicle you parked.
Agree 100%
My truck got splashed with salt brine while I was passing a plow. 😅 how soon do I need to get this off?
And it is a new truck so I’m weird about keeping my exterior and interior nice.
The sooner the better. Keep the salt off as much as you can
@@SamkoTradBow right on man thank you I’ll wash her this weekend it is suppose to be in the 40s.
Still not going to stop rust over rear wheel wells.
It will if you use the fluid film on the inside of the wheel wells
What about when the wax starts to peal dont you have to strip it _ and won't the stripper damage the paint
Wax doesn't peal it fades off. So you just re apply it every 3 months
My 2019 Jeep wrangler is rusting in the sub frame, every hole, don't understand why they didn't plug the holes with rubber plugs. It's almost as if they want us to buy new vehicles every 5 years. Luckily I caught the rust in time and bought a Lemmer oil sprayer this year. Fluid film and Surface Shield.
Fluid film is mandatory on all vehicles if you live in the Salt belt. Best stuff ever made
You can never keep it out plugging it would make it worse it would just hold residue in and make it more difficult to flush out from the rainwater
Fluid film is a great product, but doesn’t come with a warranty. I get Fluid Film professionally applied once a year for $150. They guarantee no rust from the window line down for as long as I own it as long as you get it applied within 6 months from purchase (new vehicles only) and once a year afterwards. Never understood how people can dish out $60,000 for a new truck, add a bunch of goodies, but skip this step. After 2 years, the whole underside will be crusty, and after 7 years, you got some nasty rust holes.
Yep great idea for those that live in the road salt zones.
Fellas, y'all doing it right, urr just wasting $$ tho. I fight salt and rust in PA. Get u a oil, wax spray gun, make 1 etc, save up oil and trans fluid changes. Mix .5 quarts of oil, trans fluid, 1 tube of grease and a couple wax rings or bees wax in a pot, heat and mix. Spray, brush this where u want under vehicle. On outside use a good ceramic/graphene hydrophobic type coating. This can also be done on a used vehicle. Just get rid of surface rust with needle scaler, etc and use a good 2 part coating like Master Coat, then spray with urr $10 oil n wax coating. I'm not against any wax sold, it's just that they have no petroleum products in them. A vehicle is a big investment that will lose value. So the longer u can keep it rust free the slower it will lose that value. The petroleum products get into the metal and insure that even if wax is gone the oil, trans, grease will still provide way more than enough protection. It will not wash off, even with a steam jenny. Been doing this for decades. My dad was shown by my pap and pap done this since late 60s. No rust issues ever. Again not saying anybody's way is wrong. My way is just way way cheaper. And lasts alot longer. Ask anybody who's worked on any machinery if they say any rust where machine had any leaks of oils or grease. Master Coat was invented by a NJ road and bridge guy for keeping the steel infrastructure from rusting. Ppl complain about rust on cars. Think of all the rust on all bridges, overpasses etc from salt. We do need to change this but in mean time, protect urr autos.
I know another expert on internet. But I challenge anyone to try this even in a small amount on brush and throw outside, tie under vehicle n drive. All machines that I've torn apart, restored, etc that had leaks of oils and grease never rusted. Wax alone is good, HELL anything is better than nothing. I've had to scrap more autos cause of rust. Not engines and other mech issues. And u don't have to do this every year. Put on a heavy coat and it will last 5 plus years. I'm on yr 4 with my town car. Still looks good. If you're gonna keep a auto, etc that costs what a house did 20 yrs ago, protect it from rust.
Back in 70's we would just use sand on the roads with a tiny bit of salt to keep the sand from freezing. Now they just use pure salt which has ruined wells for water, rust out your car in no time, kills all plant life on the edges of road, the salt destroys the road beds!!! Isn't it time we found some other method of clearing roads of ice and snow!!!!!!!!!
Agree
I redo- the undercoating on mine---with BEDLINER...and it NEVER rusts... (salt has NO effect on it)... unfortunatley can't put it on the OUTSIDE.. :)
I imagine that works great as well.
I use 6-8 cans each season no problem use salt neutral start to clean your salt off the your vehicle don't spray over saly
Very good vid but somehow didnt get the use of wd40
WD 40 is actually a very light oil I feel that's why it works on rusty bolts and the such
1 part pentrating oil, 1 part 80w 90 gear oil, 2 parts transmission fluid. Penetrating makes it creep , transmission oul kills rust, gear oil makes it sticky. Canadian gold. Much cheaper works WAYYYY BETTER than fluid film. Doesn't wash off...
Sounds like a great mix
When I was in the Philippines the guys there wash their cars and trucks with kerosene. Kerosene is actually an light oil and gets in all the cracks and crevice. After washing then they clean the kerosene off the surfaces. They have a similar salt problem but theirs is in the air 24/7 all year!
Interesting. Did not know that