Then their bluff is ripe for calling, when they are caught out with lies,or are challenged, they either arrest illegally ,or scurry away with smaller testicles. Auditor calls cop "sir" gets called mate back. Notice the disparity in respect? Don't call them sir or madam, make em earn their respect they THINK they are due.
Auditing gwent boy.. They can seize the phone… 🤡 At least learn some basic law before leaving incorrect comments.. How’s your mate auditing sausage boy 😂😂😂
_"So if you continue, we will have to seize it, we're just asking you to please be respectful and not do it"_ He's 100% admitted to using section 19 to _stop_ you from filming - and not to gather evidence, this has nothing whatsoever to do any policing purpose. The officer is, himself, committing a section 26 (Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015) offence, which is the exercise of powers and privileges of a constable improperly . . . he is improperly using section 19 of PACE, a power given to seize evidence, to prevent the public from filming. And whatever happened to the police politely engaging with the public, asking for a copy of your footage, rather than threatening people (in reality we know he has no legitimate interest in your footage), and the police wonder why so much of the public see them as nasty little ****s
It really seems that certain cops go out of their way to piss off the public for no reason whatsoever. And then they wonder why no one has any respect for them.
What a stupid police officer he has just committed an offence under section 26 of the Criminal Justice Act 2015 by illegally threating to seize someone's phone
That cop just made himself out to be a complete idiot, does he not know that the public know the law just as well if not better than the police officers on the street. Pace can be downloaded from the net and I would advise everybody to get a copy on their phone.
Around 8:30 under his breath “unless you comply and send it in to us”… oh you tried to keep that part quiet tyrant. You can’t seize it because you never asked if they’d share it willingly. Not to mentioned it wouldn’t be justified as no reasonable person would believe a camera phone outside the cordon would have more evidence than you could gather yourself. Absolute tyrant.
This is what happens when a "police" officer acts like a dick just for the sake of being a dick. He easily wound up the guy filming which was a bit annoying. Getting better at the game is a necessity. It's like poker, remain calm then raise the bullshit level. :)
Its a criminal offence for a constable to lie to the public, or mislead them knowingly or unknowingly as to the publics rights, or the legal powers of the constable.. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.. 1985 criminal justice act Section 26 police misuse of powers act.. Fines.. suspension..dismissle and prison up to 14 years ..
@@LeoSavantt there a YT channel that challenge the police on this subject when cops say " you can't do this or that it's breaking the law." they video cops saying that..there's a solicitor in Blackpool or Blackburn that constantly gets compo for these two guys on the yt channel..
There is no justification for his silly argument other than his ego to get compliance and behaviour like this and misuse of often badly written the laws to punnish normal citizens again or again force compliance, in some cases to end up in unlawful arrest and prosecution.
My uncle was a policeman in the 1970's he had so much respect for his community, and they had great respect for him, it is awful the police force now, no idea how to talk to anyone on a human level, very robotic and many of them don't know the law they are supposed to uphold.
Section 19 PACE 1984 provides the police with the power to seize items where there are REASONABLE grounds for believing the items were obtained by the commission of an offence, or which is evidence of an offence which is being investigated, and the seizure is necessary to prevent the evidence being concealed, lost. NOT WHEN THE POLICE JUST WHAT TO BE SCUMDAGS. REASONABLE is the think the SCUMDAG police officer need to provide not just because he can.
If plod needs to rely on the video evidence of a man's phone AFTER the event they are obviously not doing their job properly in photographing and documenting the incident. If he had recorded the event, that is an entirely different matter.
Unfortunately they don’t. There are several laws that allow police to access your phone data without a warrant, although none of them apply to the situation in this video.
As with most unsolicited interactions with what now passes for a police force, a simple 'Piss off.' followed by ignoring them deals with the situation fully and perfectly legally.
Freedom to photograph and film "Members of the public and the media do not need a permit to film or photograph in public places and police have no power to stop them filming or photographing incidents or police personnel." - MET police. PLUS, it is your human right of "freedom of opinion and expression" (photography/recording is a form of expression). When tyrants start falsely threatening you with acts, start threatening them with:- Section 26 Criminal Courts and Justice act 2015 (Police abusing powers that can lead to up to 14 years imprisonment) Misfeasance in public office - "Occurs when a public official, public servant or public body knowingly and willingly acts to cause loss or harm to a third party." And even domestic terrorism when they use violent criminal acts (Includes use/threat of unlawful arrest/detention) to further ideological goals (tyrants versions of law that violate rights and abuse actual laws). They cannot be allowed to bully members of the public who are doing nothing unlawful.
He can't say who can film and who cant , what a tyrant. ! He is one of the Thin Blue Line gang ,very dangerous. People have no rights when this Gestapo officer is about ! shocking to see these types of people in this job.
Clueless police absolutely CANNOT seize your phone for recording a RTA scene. This would be an abuse of section 19 and he is also committing a criminal offence under section 26 of the criminal justice and courts act 2015 by threatening to use section 19 on you.
"They can film because they have a press card. You haven't shown me any press card or id". What f*cking difference does that make??? You don't need a press card because you have THE RIGHT to film ANYTHING you can see with your eyes. As long as you're stood in a public place. Which these guys are. It doesn't matter what the police have got going on. They shouldn't be bothering these guys to start with. They certainly shouldn't be trying to talk people out of their rights. All in the name of 'respect' apparently. The irony of that cop asking the guys to be respectful is f*cking priceless. What an arrogant, uneducated waste of space.
He thinks that's just asking nicely. I can imagine how he proposed to misses..... Walks over, if you don't marry me I'm gonna make your life hell, I'll do unnecessary actions to ensure I get what I want.... Omg I asked nicely so dont understand why she said no 🤦♂️
That officer just committed a section 26 criminal justice and courts act offence. A police constable listed in subsection (3) commits an offence if he or she- (a)exercises the powers and privileges of a constable improperly, and (b)knows or ought to know that the exercise is improper (7) (a)the police constable threatens to exercise, or not to exercise, a power or privilege of a constable, (b)the threat is made for the purpose of achieving a benefit or detriment described in subsection (4)(a), and (c)a reasonable person would not expect a constable to threaten to exercise, or not to exercise, the power or privilege for the purpose of achieving that benefit or detriment.
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“Section 19” does not give Police Officers the power to confiscate mobile phones in order to prevent filming.
@@agentsuperdave2191 If they believe that is will be destroyed or not accessible.
It's on the net, so the test failed.
A 2 minute Google search proves without doubt they cannot take mobile phones or recordings using section 19
Then their bluff is ripe for calling, when they are caught out with lies,or are challenged, they either arrest illegally ,or scurry away with smaller testicles.
Auditor calls cop "sir" gets called mate back. Notice the disparity in respect? Don't call them sir or madam, make em earn their respect they THINK they are due.
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@@agentsuperdave2191 Civil claim.
Recording the scene of a incident after the incident has occurred is not evidence of the incident. I detest lying corrupt cops.
how old are you ? because we've been telling this story for 40 odd years
Exactly and if there’s still evidence of a crime there that needs documenting, the police can record it themselves.
Cop is an absolute jobs worth and clueless about the law as usual
This police officer is clueless and unprofessional about filming in public. . You can see why there is a disconnect. Retired lifeboatman
This copper is a Cupid Stunt 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
What an absolute sausage that Cop was
And he’s 100% wrong, has to be evidence of an offence being committed or the item that is being seized has been obtained unlawfully
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA
Absolutely 💯
A VEGAN SAUSAGE !
He is a muslim
Auditing gwent boy..
They can seize the phone…
🤡
At least learn some basic law before leaving incorrect comments..
How’s your mate auditing sausage boy 😂😂😂
Amazing how the British Police continue to show why they are held in such low regard!
Policeman admits they can't do their job and need help from the public to take photographs
Unfortunately the police have burned that true bridge with the last group of the public. Is going to get bad. Good luck.
2 tier policing showing how they treat the British public
Pulling laws out of his ass
Skid marks on his PINK KNICKERS
Dumb traffic cop needs to check his car for exhaust leak inside the car as *it's gone to his head*
Only crime here is a copper telling lies.
_"So if you continue, we will have to seize it, we're just asking you to please be respectful and not do it"_
He's 100% admitted to using section 19 to _stop_ you from filming - and not to gather evidence, this has nothing whatsoever to do any policing purpose. The officer is, himself, committing a section 26 (Criminal Justice and Courts Act 2015) offence, which is the exercise of powers and privileges of a constable improperly . . . he is improperly using section 19 of PACE, a power given to seize evidence, to prevent the public from filming.
And whatever happened to the police politely engaging with the public, asking for a copy of your footage, rather than threatening people (in reality we know he has no legitimate interest in your footage), and the police wonder why so much of the public see them as nasty little ****s
Answer = Section 26 - Corrupt or other improper exercise of police powers and privileges. Foxtrot Oscar! You should make a formal complaint!👍
@Feverstockphoto
Misfeacance in Public office doesn’t cover this.
It really seems that certain cops go out of their way to piss off the public for no reason whatsoever. And then they wonder why no one has any respect for them.
The Police asking someone to be respectful is a joke the one thing they are not is respectful
Define politely oh bearded wonder? Come in 1572, your times up!
The evidence contained on the phone is of a cop acting like a pork chop.
😂😂😂
What a stupid police officer he has just committed an offence under section 26 of the Criminal Justice Act 2015 by illegally threating to seize someone's phone
And that should be the basis of the complaint. The ease that he abused his powers suggests he commits S26 offences every single day.
@mrr9395
Rubbish! S26 is for Misfeance in public office. Covers taking bribes and corruption.
Check up how many cases have been bought under S26.
BBC ITV C4 C5 OK BUT SOMEBODY RECORDING THE TRUTH 'NOT ALLOWED'
FACTS
Not allowed
Be careful over the weekend everyone. The police wants scalps
So do the people.
That cop just made himself out to be a complete idiot, does he not know that the public know the law just as well if not better than the police officers on the street. Pace can be downloaded from the net and I would advise everybody to get a copy on their phone.
He has the Gang Badge on
Most of them have gang badges ,just shows they don’t give a shit what the chief commissioner says .
Don't be a silly little child.
I bet he doesn’t wear his gang badge in civilian clothes.
He certainly is!
@JammyDodger45 wake up you waste of skin
And they wonder why they are hated.
Around 8:30 under his breath “unless you comply and send it in to us”… oh you tried to keep that part quiet tyrant. You can’t seize it because you never asked if they’d share it willingly. Not to mentioned it wouldn’t be justified as no reasonable person would believe a camera phone outside the cordon would have more evidence than you could gather yourself.
Absolute tyrant.
This is what happens when a "police" officer acts like a dick just for the sake of being a dick. He easily wound up the guy filming which was a bit annoying. Getting better at the game is a necessity. It's like poker, remain calm then raise the bullshit level. :)
Its a criminal offence for a constable to lie to the public, or mislead them knowingly or unknowingly as to the publics rights, or the legal powers of the constable..
Ignorance of the law is no excuse..
1985 criminal justice act Section 26 police misuse of powers act..
Fines.. suspension..dismissle and prison up to 14 years ..
Fines.. suspension..dismissle and prison up to 14 years .. in theory only!
@@LeoSavantt there a YT channel that challenge the police on this subject when cops say " you can't do this or that it's breaking the law." they video cops saying that..there's a solicitor in Blackpool or Blackburn that constantly gets compo for these two guys on the yt channel..
@@bannedagain.8334 crimebodge does a good job, but the effort and time needed to hold the police to account is extraordinary.
That would be classed as robbery if he did take your phone
Section 19…? How much fun would that have been in court!! 😂😂😂😂
Just send your footage to the chief and ask for a written apology from this muppet traffic cop (glorified traffic warden)
Gang badge!!!! Tut tut.
Should told them they not doing their job properly if need your phone,they should be collecting their own evidence.
There is no justification for his silly argument other than his ego to get compliance and behaviour like this and misuse of often badly written the laws to punnish normal citizens again or again force compliance, in some cases to end up in unlawful arrest and prosecution.
The great replacement
yet another case of two teir policing, What a suprise.
“I politely threatened to seize your phone”.
I am CCTV operator you can film what you see in public as long as it not in people's home's
By peoples homes you mean peeping thru windows inside the house ?
Cop exposed himself
I MISSED THAT , he must have a very small WILLY
SECT 19 what bullshit !!!!
Absolutely
If it has already happened what an earth is he on about.He had better confiscate the film crews gear then.
Media Department just sums it up.
You don't need ID if you say you are the press.
My uncle was a policeman in the 1970's he had so much respect for his community, and they had great respect for him, it is awful the police force now, no idea how to talk to anyone on a human level, very robotic and many of them don't know the law they are supposed to uphold.
"Press Card" ???????
look at all the gang badges.
Section 19 PACE 1984 provides the police with the power to seize items where there are REASONABLE grounds for believing the items were obtained by the commission of an offence, or which is evidence of an offence which is being investigated, and the seizure is necessary to prevent the evidence being concealed, lost. NOT WHEN THE POLICE JUST WHAT TO BE SCUMDAGS. REASONABLE is the think the SCUMDAG police officer need to provide not just because he can.
And that muppets of a PC has committed an offence under Section 26 of PACE by misusing his powers!
Funny how when challenged he backed down.
Two-tier policing again.
If plod needs to rely on the video evidence of a man's phone AFTER the event they are obviously not doing their job properly in photographing and documenting the incident. If he had recorded the event, that is an entirely different matter.
Two tier policing. Fine for the press, not fine for the public.
Wonder what they got to hide, seems they a bit over the top
the pigs need a warrant to acess phoe data end of
Unfortunately they don’t. There are several laws that allow police to access your phone data without a warrant, although none of them apply to the situation in this video.
As with most unsolicited interactions with what now passes for a police force, a simple 'Piss off.' followed by ignoring them deals with the situation fully and perfectly legally.
Jeez, It never ceases to amaze me how cops have their own special way, of making themselves look like idiots, fascinating ! !.
What a fool. And kept going with his foolishness!!!!
Can’t they make their own recordings? The police get more charmless and arrogant as time goes on. Well done for standing up for your legal rights.
Another blood tyrant
Why are they all wearing a gang badge, shame you did not point that out
What a muppet
Not surprised, almost always disappointed.
With a name and collar number any Private Investigator worth his salt can get a policeman's home address..
Bad cop
So he wants you to be " Respectful " BUT ISN'T being RESPECTFUL of your LEGAL RIGHT to film in PUBLIC which is a totally LAWFUL ACTIVITY .
1572 WHAT A MUPPETT
Freedom to photograph and film
"Members of the public and the media do not need a permit to film or photograph in public places and police have no power to stop them filming or photographing incidents or police personnel." - MET police. PLUS, it is your human right of "freedom of opinion and expression" (photography/recording is a form of expression).
When tyrants start falsely threatening you with acts, start threatening them with:-
Section 26 Criminal Courts and Justice act 2015 (Police abusing powers that can lead to up to 14 years imprisonment)
Misfeasance in public office - "Occurs when a public official, public servant or public body knowingly and willingly acts to cause loss or harm to a third party."
And even domestic terrorism when they use violent criminal acts (Includes use/threat of unlawful arrest/detention) to further ideological goals (tyrants versions of law that violate rights and abuse actual laws).
They cannot be allowed to bully members of the public who are doing nothing unlawful.
No reason to close both pavements other than to save money on exclusion tape. The robot coppers are of cheaper use than the tape
Why are the police so shady.
Cops really do earn the hate. Gang badge as well.
Called out for abusing section 19, evidence? What evidence? Ridiculous attempted abuse of authority.
Pathetic OTT policing for something that looks very minor ! They don't investigate paedaphiles & grooming gangs with this amount of attention !
He can't say who can film and who cant , what a tyrant. ! He is one of the Thin Blue Line gang ,very dangerous. People have no rights when this Gestapo officer is about ! shocking to see these types of people in this job.
Clueless police absolutely CANNOT seize your phone for recording a RTA scene. This would be an abuse of section 19 and he is also committing a criminal offence under section 26 of the criminal justice and courts act 2015 by threatening to use section 19 on you.
It's great that PC can read, it's a shame about the comprehension / application, & abuse.
So if filming stops them from investigating, then tell them to take down the public cameras
Rozzer chancing his arm there…
That copper was a total clown.
He was just making it up as he went along.
This why people feel the need to throw stones at the police 😂😂😂
The arrogance, egomania, narcissism and ignorance of this lying cop is disgraceful.
If you're press, then that's fine if you're not, then you can't. 😂😢
Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺.
G’day 👍🏻
Everyone should film these clowns
Needs sacking right now
RIP UK
............I fully agree with you, what a tosser, should be held accountable.
The swamp needs draining the trouble is there wouldn't be many left
And they wonder why they're so disliked.
Lost the plod 😂
Even normal cops don't like traffic cops, says a lot!!
And they wonder why we hate them.
THAT BLACK & WHITE BADGE HAS BEEN BANNED REMOVE
"They can film because they have a press card. You haven't shown me any press card or id". What f*cking difference does that make??? You don't need a press card because you have THE RIGHT to film ANYTHING you can see with your eyes. As long as you're stood in a public place. Which these guys are. It doesn't matter what the police have got going on. They shouldn't be bothering these guys to start with. They certainly shouldn't be trying to talk people out of their rights. All in the name of 'respect' apparently. The irony of that cop asking the guys to be respectful is f*cking priceless. What an arrogant, uneducated waste of space.
"What a tosser he is" - exactly
I thought police needed to show integrity? He’s certainly not.
That would be robbery constable, luckily that's recorded as a threat constable...
He thinks that's just asking nicely. I can imagine how he proposed to misses.....
Walks over, if you don't marry me I'm gonna make your life hell, I'll do unnecessary actions to ensure I get what I want....
Omg I asked nicely so dont understand why she said no 🤦♂️
That officer just committed a section 26 criminal justice and courts act offence.
A police constable listed in subsection (3) commits an offence if he or she-
(a)exercises the powers and privileges of a constable improperly, and
(b)knows or ought to know that the exercise is improper
(7) (a)the police constable threatens to exercise, or not to exercise, a power or privilege of a constable,
(b)the threat is made for the purpose of achieving a benefit or detriment described in subsection (4)(a), and
(c)a reasonable person would not expect a constable to threaten to exercise, or not to exercise, the power or privilege for the purpose of achieving that benefit or detriment.
"We're asking you to be polite and show respect as I тнгеатеп you"
Why is police office winding members of the public up
Seize the phone?...does he carry a warrent or court order around with him? Coz that's what he'd need
🔔ends wearing gang badges🍻
Police Media Dept.....O' you mean SKY BBC ITV...