I have watched a lot of your videos and I must say that you're a amazingly smart person. I love to do wood working projects too. It makes me jealous to see how easy these things come to you. The way your mind works and your ability to problem solve is truly remarkable. I can only imagine what you are capable of doing beyond woodworking. It's good that the world has people like you that can make awesome shit for people like me.. Keep up the great work.
I just purchased the plans for the photograph.It was a fun build ,with clear and detailed directions .It was a good price for plans with easy print out PDF documents.and works well.Thanks to Matthias and his great ideas.i would recommend getting these plans.
Mr. Matthias compose compliment your talent. Sam I like wood, it is my big hobby. I look to the web and then I try to do it according to your entertainment and pleasure. I wish you many more successes and all the best in the new year. Stepanka of Prague
Both the router and follower tilt at the same rate, so tilting does not distort the copy. A 1:1 copier is much more complicated, and less accurate. See my copy carver video.
The tracing head is supposed to travel up and down more than the routing head, just like it travels more in x and y. That way, proportions are maintained.
The ratio of the distances A-B and A-C stays constant (otherwise, it would not reduce proportionately in X and Y). Because this ratio stays the same, vertical proportions (or reduction rate) is also preserved. You are not the only one to get confused about that.
Ok I understand now. I was under the delusion that, for a pantoroute to be perfect, the router bit had to be exactly perpendicular to the target wood. A simple replaying of the first 14 seconds of your video helped me to visualise that. Thanks for the reply though and I have much admiration for your skill and innovation.
This looks awesome. I've been wanting to do abalone inlay on head stock veneer, and this looks like it could make my life a LOT easier. I'm going to order your plans and start building next week. Thank you for this video. At 1:45, you talk about glue making things slide while clamped. I often drive a couple thing wire brads into the wood where the pieces will meet and cutting them off with wire cutters. This leaves just two small SHARP points sticking out. That usually does the trick.
Built one of these from your plans over the weekend...fantastic tool. Your plans were very well done. I've been looking for a method to do precision letters in some display case molding and never found anything acceptable..till now! I used the stencil maker at size 300 and at 1/3 scale, I get perfect 3/4 inch (all upper case) letters that are flawless. There really is nothing available to do this type of lettering...you should patent it and get into production.
im in the process making one of these router pantographs inspired by this design, im on a second prototype and its going well so far. nice work bye the way.
No, you could totally modify it for a variable ratio. Put a channel in the arm that has the follower so it can slide in and out, along its length, with a wing-nut or something to lock it down where you want it. It's the ratio of hinge-router and hinge-follower distances that matters; the router and follower don't actually have to be co-linear with the hinge. So, a variable follower would do the job. You could even put scale markings on that arm for easy adjustment.
The pantorouter doesn't pivot. but the pantograph does. And if your follower is the sasme shape as the bit, it will pivot with the bit, so it still copies everything to scale.
Lets say A= pivot poiint B=Router C=Guide for template. The height of B would be different when C is closer to A and when C is away from A. But then when you do small project, maybe it shouldnt be that much of noticeable..... Regardless of that, its a beautiful machine with a very clever design. =)
He is right, The movement of the router bit on the X axis will reduce as you move close to the pivot point.. Because the position where the guide bit is installed is farther from the actual router bit. This can be improved if the guide bit arm is perpendicular to the router bit and both the router bit and the guide bit are at the same distance from the imaginary pivot point line.
It won't copy depth exactly, but the distance from drill to pivot will always be at a fixed ratio to the distance between input and pivot. The copied piece will shrink, yes, but the proportions will stay the same.
I bought Mathias Wandel's plans for this 3-D Pantograph. They couldn't be more thoughtfully organized, nor more clearly illustrated, nor with easier to understand text.
I need a BIGGER shop to fit all these things in so I can Build them all!! First video i seen making a dowel maker! AWESOME VIDEOS ALL OF THEM! Also no offense but i was thinking who do you look like, Well I figured it out you look like the dad from "honey I shrunk the kids / Honey I blew up the kids!" I lover your videos they re a big help!
nice setup. Have you thought about putting some sort of cap or knob on the end of the two pins that adjust the router's position so you can just remove them with your hands?
Buenas noches la verdad eres SUPER con la explicación en el video. Me agradaria poder aprender y asimilar todo los que sabes de estas fabulosas herremientas caseras. Un abrazo Carlos
Well I just recently purchased the plans for this and the plans and instructions to put it together are great. There is only one small issue with the plans you have. They are set up and designed for a specific router. I own a brand new Craftsman router and in order for these plans to support the router i have i had to take them down and have them resized. To have the resized to the size that will not cause the parts to break, all of the parts have to be resized. This creates a huge problem cause then the L-blocks, S-blocks and the long rectangular block for the long link have to all be revamped in order for them to all fit correctly. maybe you should do your plans for all applications of different routers, so that when we purchase them we can just click on the link for the router we have. This is going to turn into way more work than i expected. I also had to take the plans to a print shop to have them resized so that i could use them.
The Robertson screws are Canadian, I believe came first and although I have never used them personally, are *probably* superior due to the more completely enclosed "socket" that the driver is placed into.
the router moves in ALL directions with half the distance. so if you move away by 1 inch, the router will move away by 0.5 in, and the height ratio is maintained.
Does having only one pivot point for the up/down axis affect the routing much? Since the tracing head travels more than the routing head. Nice work by the way, enjoyed the video.
your videos are always great... love them... how about a 3d pantograph that lifts the router parallel to the table? I'm not sure how you would do it, I just thought I would throw it out there as a challenge :-)
This is a wonder, Matthias, but I've got a Triton 2000w, 2.75hp monster of a router (I love it) -- adjusting the mount from your plans to suit, do you think the rest would retain structural integrity under that kind of load and torque (even with its 'soft start')? I am anxious to hear your comments.
if you don't find an essential piece in your work such as studs, shafts, etc. what would you do? another question : Do you make the designs by yourself? thanks
Thats right .... I just did a small test and apear to be you are right. Thanks for the explanation. BTW, I really like the other machines you made too ^^.
Very good. Reminds me of the New Hermes engraving machine I used to run at ham radio shows. A bit bigger though. Is the weight of the router and linkages a problem?
so all of this awesomeness you do; is it like, just a hobbie or do you do this for a living? I'm just curious, 'cause I know this requires a lot of time, patience and money. saludos!
I really love your videos @Matthiaswandel, i learned quite lots of things but also enjoying looking at you building any kind of stuff! Just a question: but is me or you only use Robertson screws? I never saw such screws anywhere in italy, only Pozidriv/Philiphs or Slot screws (and Torx just because my car is French and is full of them ahah) keep on the work!
I bought the plans, they are very detailed indeed and easy to work from. great value for money. My 3D pantograph works fantastic. Thanks Matthias
The way you work emit a strong sense of calm and understanding which is conveyed up to the viewer side. Zen.
Alal vam vera, bravo majstore, oduševio si me. Pozdrav iz Zaječara
I like how all your videos get right to the point. Some of the best how-to vid's on the net IMO.
Congratulation Mathias Wandel you're a genius!!!!! ...you're helping a lot of people ..like me ...thank you a lot.
I have watched a lot of your videos and I must say that you're a amazingly smart person. I love to do wood working projects too. It makes me jealous to see how easy these things come to you. The way your mind works and your ability to problem solve is truly remarkable. I can only imagine what you are capable of doing beyond woodworking. It's good that the world has people like you that can make awesome shit for people like me.. Keep up the great work.
I have just discovered your channel. your constructions in wood are fantastic and amazing. Greets from Switzerland
Felix
please never stop making videos like this , they always make my day.
saludos desde mexico.
I just purchased the plans for the photograph.It was a fun build ,with clear and detailed directions .It was a good price for plans with easy print out PDF documents.and works well.Thanks to Matthias and his great ideas.i would recommend getting these plans.
Mr. Matthias compose compliment your talent. Sam I like wood, it is my big hobby. I look to the web and then I try to do it according to your entertainment and pleasure.
I wish you many more successes and all the best in the new year. Stepanka of Prague
MATTHIAS YOUR VIDEOS ARE THE BEST!
THANK YOU FROM BRAZIL!!!
Your genius just amazes me! Crazy smart. Nice work on this wonderful addition to the shop.
Genius. Absolute genius. Quality working and it looks good, too. Well done.
Both the router and follower tilt at the same rate, so tilting does not distort the copy. A 1:1 copier is much more complicated, and less accurate. See my copy carver video.
The tracing head is supposed to travel up and down more than the routing head, just like it travels more in x and y. That way, proportions are maintained.
The ratio of the distances A-B and A-C stays constant (otherwise, it would not reduce proportionately in X and Y). Because this ratio stays the same, vertical proportions (or reduction rate) is also preserved. You are not the only one to get confused about that.
Your plans are excellent! You could charge twice as much and it would still be a great buy. Thanks mate!
Looks awsome, can't wait to see all the stuff you use it for.
You are a very skilled craftsman and have inspired me to make more out of wood
I just want to say thanks. I am working on mine hopefully it will be done this week.
Ok I understand now. I was under the delusion that, for a pantoroute to be perfect, the router bit had to be exactly perpendicular to the target wood. A simple replaying of the first 14 seconds of your video helped me to visualise that. Thanks for the reply though and I have much admiration for your skill and innovation.
If you are building cabinets, it really adds up. But this pantograph doesn't need much plywood.
Yes, it does. But the follower gets skewed by the same amount, so the shape is still reproduced accurately.
Incredible+genius=ingenious!
I just built one, but on a smaller scale. It's a really cool invention of yours!
10x is pretty impractical with a pantograph, but if you say it can be done, please prove it by building it.
This looks awesome. I've been wanting to do abalone inlay on head stock veneer, and this looks like it could make my life a LOT easier. I'm going to order your plans and start building next week. Thank you for this video.
At 1:45, you talk about glue making things slide while clamped. I often drive a couple thing wire brads into the wood where the pieces will meet and cutting them off with wire cutters. This leaves just two small SHARP points sticking out. That usually does the trick.
Thank you for sharing this useful info! And thanks to whoever has prepared the captions in Spanish, they are well done, not automatic translations.
What a great job you did here my friend.
Matthias you are a genius
the youngest master craftsmen I've ever seen
Built one of these from your plans over the weekend...fantastic tool. Your plans were very well done. I've been looking for a method to do precision letters in some display case molding and never found anything acceptable..till now! I used the stencil maker at size 300 and at 1/3 scale, I get perfect 3/4 inch (all upper case) letters that are flawless. There really is nothing available to do this type of lettering...you should patent it and get into production.
Hello I really liked this 3-D pantograph project. Congratulations, I admire your work.
You are the man, Matthias...
Just wait and see. I'm about to upload it.
im in the process making one of these router pantographs inspired by this design, im on a second prototype and its going well so far.
nice work bye the way.
matthias you are awesome i enjoy all your videos ..good work
for 1:1, you need a copy carver (I have a video on making one of those too)
I need a BIGGER shop to fit all these things in so I can Build them all!! First video i seen making a dowel maker! AWESOME VIDEOS ALL OF THEM!
Why would that be a problem? Both the router and the follower tilt by exactly the same amount.
No, you could totally modify it for a variable ratio. Put a channel in the arm that has the follower so it can slide in and out, along its length, with a wing-nut or something to lock it down where you want it. It's the ratio of hinge-router and hinge-follower distances that matters; the router and follower don't actually have to be co-linear with the hinge. So, a variable follower would do the job. You could even put scale markings on that arm for easy adjustment.
The pantorouter doesn't pivot. but the pantograph does. And if your follower is the sasme shape as the bit, it will pivot with the bit, so it still copies everything to scale.
go to woodgears,ca, search for Miguel's pantograph (search box bottom right)
what's cool is that you deal with small trim routers! I likes this
Actually, for the pantorouter, the bit DOES need to be perpendicular, but not for the 3D pantograph in this video.
Lets say A= pivot poiint B=Router C=Guide for template. The height of B would be different when C is closer to A and when C is away from A. But then when you do small project, maybe it shouldnt be that much of noticeable..... Regardless of that, its a beautiful machine with a very clever design. =)
Truly awesome as expected! Bravo!
He is right, The movement of the router bit on the X axis will reduce as you move close to the pivot point.. Because the position where the guide bit is installed is farther from the actual router bit. This can be improved if the guide bit arm is perpendicular to the router bit and both the router bit and the guide bit are at the same distance from the imaginary pivot point line.
Congrats on 100 videos!
This is a very good video. I really learned a lot from it, thanks!
It won't copy depth exactly, but the distance from drill to pivot will always be at a fixed ratio to the distance between input and pivot. The copied piece will shrink, yes, but the proportions will stay the same.
Maybe half a day. Surprisingly quick, actually.
Next video is almost done uploading
Use the type used in Europe without handles. There ARE routers without handles in Europe, like small ones like this Bosch (different name in Europe)
1/2 magnification is a 2x reduction. Just like multiplying by 1/2 is t he same as dividing by 2.
I bought Mathias Wandel's plans for this 3-D Pantograph. They couldn't be more thoughtfully organized, nor more clearly illustrated, nor with easier to understand text.
I use all kinds of screws, but mostly philips and robertson.
You just need a smaller hole for mounting the dremel tool, basically, drawing a smaller size circle on the template with a compass.
I need a BIGGER shop to fit all these things in so I can Build them all!! First video i seen making a dowel maker! AWESOME VIDEOS ALL OF THEM! Also no offense but i was thinking who do you look like, Well I figured it out you look like the dad from "honey I shrunk the kids / Honey I blew up the kids!" I lover your videos they re a big help!
amazing craftsmanship
I'd like to understand your physics a bit better. Could you elaborate?
nice setup. Have you thought about putting some sort of cap or knob on the end of the two pins that adjust the router's position so you can just remove them with your hands?
Buenas noches la verdad eres SUPER con la explicación en el video. Me agradaria poder aprender y asimilar todo los que sabes de estas fabulosas herremientas caseras. Un abrazo Carlos
Well I just recently purchased the plans for this and the plans and instructions to put it together are great. There is only one small issue with the plans you have. They are set up and designed for a specific router. I own a brand new Craftsman router and in order for these plans to support the router i have i had to take them down and have them resized. To have the resized to the size that will not cause the parts to break, all of the parts have to be resized. This creates a huge problem cause then the L-blocks, S-blocks and the long rectangular block for the long link have to all be revamped in order for them to all fit correctly. maybe you should do your plans for all applications of different routers, so that when we purchase them we can just click on the link for the router we have. This is going to turn into way more work than i expected. I also had to take the plans to a print shop to have them resized so that i could use them.
Great, Awesome; i just bought the plans and is fascinating
Great, Awesome; i just bought the plans and is fascinating!!
Birk Swensen (Norway)
The Robertson screws are Canadian, I believe came first and although I have never used them personally, are *probably* superior due to the more completely enclosed "socket" that the driver is placed into.
Can't help not to comment! Nice! Just nice.
If you have a fan in Brazil, It´s me...wonderfoul workers....
Click on the description
the router moves in ALL directions with half the distance. so if you move away by 1 inch, the router will move away by 0.5 in, and the height ratio is maintained.
purchased plans, I have a new router, have all the materials. All set to make my own.
CANT WAIT !!!!!!!! YIPPY!!!!
Does having only one pivot point for the up/down axis affect the routing much? Since the tracing head travels more than the routing head.
Nice work by the way, enjoyed the video.
The Gutenberg of woodworks :D
Oh my god! I would travel to Canada just to learn from you if that was possible
your videos are always great... love them... how about a 3d pantograph that lifts the router parallel to the table? I'm not sure how you would do it, I just thought I would throw it out there as a challenge :-)
Brilliant craftsmanship.
This is a wonder, Matthias, but I've got a Triton 2000w, 2.75hp monster of a router (I love it) -- adjusting the mount from your plans to suit, do you think the rest would retain structural integrity under that kind of load and torque (even with its 'soft start')?
I am anxious to hear your comments.
Fantastic work
Gosh I love woodworking!
@Matthiaswandel
i like the challenge of building and designing one my self, but your plans do seem really good.
if you don't find an essential piece in your work such as studs, shafts, etc. what would you do? another question : Do you make the designs by yourself?
thanks
Great project!
Every time you say birch plywood my brain translates that into solid gold bar, birch plywood is expensive!
Delighted to have a set of plans that suits my Makita edge trimmer (65mm body) - cutting out the plans now . . .
awsome machine!
I juste discovered your channel, looking for ways to make my own gears. (I'm a wood newbie haha) Thx a lot, your work is amazing !
Thats right .... I just did a small test and apear to be you are right. Thanks for the explanation. BTW, I really like the other machines you made too ^^.
Thank you, incredible stuff as always
Amazingly simple, would you be able to modify into a duplicator for small projects?
let me know where i can find you I will like to by the plans please I love this machine.
You can never have enough clamps cramps and weights, I do weights out of bottles filled with water cheap and effective.
David in Reading UK.
Very good. Reminds me of the New Hermes engraving machine I used to run at ham radio shows. A bit bigger though. Is the weight of the router and linkages a problem?
Congratulations!
Awesome jig, and great ingenuity like most of your vids. Do you happen to know if there are already built lettering that are readily available?
You'd need a really big pantograph for that.
so all of this awesomeness you do; is it like, just a hobbie or do you do this for a living? I'm just curious, 'cause I know this requires a lot of time, patience and money.
saludos!
Looks great, but I think a Kreg Jig might have helped you with assembly, and virtually eliminated clamping.
Men... you r the best!
I really love your videos @Matthiaswandel, i learned quite lots of things but also enjoying looking at you building any kind of stuff!
Just a question: but is me or you only use Robertson screws? I never saw such screws anywhere in italy, only Pozidriv/Philiphs or Slot screws (and Torx just because my car is French and is full of them ahah)
keep on the work!
I only sell the plans. Click on the link in the description.