Great to know! I've watched a fair bit from other Nuzlockers, but it's mostly the ones that do difficulty hacks and I'm just starting with Vanilla games for now. Or they just didn't use Pokemon that needed traded in their runs so I had no idea what to do. 😥
@@IcySylvie FlygonHG and Silphspectre both make use of impossible evolutions in their challenges, generally just stating they "trade-evolved" it, and leave it at that.
There's a thing some randomizers allow you to do which is "removing impossible evolutions". Basically, it makes any evolution that is basically impossible on an emulator - like trades - or ones that are generally annoying, i.e. Milotic, Hydreigon, etc. - easier to achieve. Usually, it'll replace the trade requirement with some kind of evolution item requirement, or if there was already an item required, it just makes that item act like a stone instead (i.e. metal coat for Scizor), or if the evolution is at a stupidly high level, like some of Unova's dex, it'll bring it down to around 40. Personally, I don't see an issue with doing this, especially if you attempt a randomizer. Opposing trainers use illegal pokemon all the time, with Ghetsis from BW1 arguably being the biggest offender.
That's actually huge. I assume you have to run it before you start playing, but I'll definitely look into it for future runs. I'm honestly finding even things like friendship evolutions to annoy me in vanilla games.
I’ve done a nuzlock of the ruby version of this and I lost at Steven’s metagross not do to a miss play but do to my brain insisting that it was a rock type and not a steal psychic type
Honestly it still got mega swamper super low, that thing hurts. So relatable though, I lost a pokemon in a run last week because my brain insisted it was dark/fighting so I left it in for a psychic type.
Really liked the scripting and editing! In terms of using trade evolutions, megas etc I have no problem using or not using them, make it as easy or difficult as you want. And leveling for the elite four you could also just level to the levelcap of the champion, but making it harder for the streamer and make the suffer is alwyas more fun.
I've seen the champion cap implemented before. Do you happen to know what happens if Pokemon level up during the E4 members? Do you just ignore it at that point sort of like how sometimes people 'edge' a Pokemon for the gym so it levels up during the battle?
@@IcySylvie Yeah, I'm pretty sure at this point it doesn't really matter if they level up since it's the end of the game anyway. But I think with nuzlock rules you can implement it how ever you prefere. Main source I have are the ChaoticMeatball nuzlocks.
Trade evos have always been cringe. I say if you want to be able to get trade evos I say get them, in terms of ruling I’m pretty sure most of the time impossible evos just becomes level up with held items or just normal leveling up.
Appreciate all the feedback on this. It was one of those things where despite watching a number of runs for fun, I wasn't actually sure what to do when I found myself in the situation.
Trade evolutions shouldn't be a thing, but then, version exclusive pokemon shouldn't either. They're all programmed in, so it's litterally only there to sell more copies. It should be illegal to FORCE people to reach out to other people in games that are single-player. The ability to play against other people is an activity outside of the playthrough. It is great that they include it, and a reason why many people play, but version exclusives only mean that some people who don't have access to the internet don't get to play with all pokémon, and they can't catch all pokémon themselves. Ideally (but they'll never do since it means a significant segment of the playerbase has to buy both games and a second console to trade with themselves) future games would be one version only, and they add a device in a location in which you can "trade" your pokémon with yourself. Meaning the evolution can be placed a certain distance into the game where the estimate is that you've spent at least some time with the mid-stage of a pokémon you caught early enough, as well as evolve the pokémon that require a held item during a trade. That, or an item that evolves trade pokémon, and the items that had to be held during a trade can now be "used" as well, so they stil can be held by the pokémon for the benefits it's supposed to give as a held item, and trigger a pokémon's evolution on demand.
@@IcySylvie uooow Thanks! Eu digo o mesmo, voce é tao sweet que eu assisti o video todo >:3 (a legenda automatica me impediu de entender algumas partes mas mesmo assim foi muito legal!!!)
I'd say, feel free to make "impossible evolutions" possible, as other nuzlockers do so.
Great to know! I've watched a fair bit from other Nuzlockers, but it's mostly the ones that do difficulty hacks and I'm just starting with Vanilla games for now. Or they just didn't use Pokemon that needed traded in their runs so I had no idea what to do. 😥
@@IcySylvie FlygonHG and Silphspectre both make use of impossible evolutions in their challenges, generally just stating they "trade-evolved" it, and leave it at that.
30:10 YOO, IS THAT MEGA MAN BATTLE NETWORK/STARFORCE MUSIC???!!!!
Not a bad idea for music in the future! It's actually the Colress Battle Music from B2/W2 this time.
Great Run! Already looking forward for the next one
There's a thing some randomizers allow you to do which is "removing impossible evolutions". Basically, it makes any evolution that is basically impossible on an emulator - like trades - or ones that are generally annoying, i.e. Milotic, Hydreigon, etc. - easier to achieve. Usually, it'll replace the trade requirement with some kind of evolution item requirement, or if there was already an item required, it just makes that item act like a stone instead (i.e. metal coat for Scizor), or if the evolution is at a stupidly high level, like some of Unova's dex, it'll bring it down to around 40.
Personally, I don't see an issue with doing this, especially if you attempt a randomizer. Opposing trainers use illegal pokemon all the time, with Ghetsis from BW1 arguably being the biggest offender.
That's actually huge. I assume you have to run it before you start playing, but I'll definitely look into it for future runs. I'm honestly finding even things like friendship evolutions to annoy me in vanilla games.
Great content as always! Keep up the great work!
I’ve done a nuzlock of the ruby version of this and I lost at Steven’s metagross not do to a miss play but do to my brain insisting that it was a rock type and not a steal psychic type
Honestly it still got mega swamper super low, that thing hurts. So relatable though, I lost a pokemon in a run last week because my brain insisted it was dark/fighting so I left it in for a psychic type.
Wow I’m sorry for your loss and I get that
Really liked the scripting and editing! In terms of using trade evolutions, megas etc I have no problem using or not using them, make it as easy or difficult as you want. And leveling for the elite four you could also just level to the levelcap of the champion, but making it harder for the streamer and make the suffer is alwyas more fun.
I've seen the champion cap implemented before. Do you happen to know what happens if Pokemon level up during the E4 members? Do you just ignore it at that point sort of like how sometimes people 'edge' a Pokemon for the gym so it levels up during the battle?
@@IcySylvie Yeah, I'm pretty sure at this point it doesn't really matter if they level up since it's the end of the game anyway. But I think with nuzlock rules you can implement it how ever you prefere. Main source I have are the ChaoticMeatball nuzlocks.
I personally use a dice to pick my starter so its random like a wild encounter
Is it odd I got mudkip like you from the dice?
Trade evos have always been cringe. I say if you want to be able to get trade evos I say get them, in terms of ruling I’m pretty sure most of the time impossible evos just becomes level up with held items or just normal leveling up.
Appreciate all the feedback on this. It was one of those things where despite watching a number of runs for fun, I wasn't actually sure what to do when I found myself in the situation.
Sylvie is a great mc for pokemon
New Sylvie vid!! Let’s goooo
I'd say do what you can for trade evolutions.
Trade evolutions shouldn't be a thing, but then, version exclusive pokemon shouldn't either. They're all programmed in, so it's litterally only there to sell more copies. It should be illegal to FORCE people to reach out to other people in games that are single-player. The ability to play against other people is an activity outside of the playthrough. It is great that they include it, and a reason why many people play, but version exclusives only mean that some people who don't have access to the internet don't get to play with all pokémon, and they can't catch all pokémon themselves.
Ideally (but they'll never do since it means a significant segment of the playerbase has to buy both games and a second console to trade with themselves) future games would be one version only, and they add a device in a location in which you can "trade" your pokémon with yourself. Meaning the evolution can be placed a certain distance into the game where the estimate is that you've spent at least some time with the mid-stage of a pokémon you caught early enough, as well as evolve the pokémon that require a held item during a trade.
That, or an item that evolves trade pokémon, and the items that had to be held during a trade can now be "used" as well, so they stil can be held by the pokémon for the benefits it's supposed to give as a held item, and trigger a pokémon's evolution on demand.
shuashuashuash voce é muito engraçada >:3
Gostei do video, mesmo eu nao entendendo muito ingles :,)
Like, like and like!!!!
OMG You're so sweet!
@@IcySylvie uooow Thanks!
Eu digo o mesmo, voce é tao sweet que eu assisti o video todo >:3
(a legenda automatica me impediu de entender algumas partes mas mesmo assim foi muito legal!!!)
Mudkipppp lets gooo
4 FISSURES!? AIN'T NO WAY!
An actual menace to good gameplay everywhere.