How do you thank a total stranger from across the Atlantic Ocean who selects an obscure and irrelevant piece of art you did years ago and turns it into an Archaeological-Techno Adventure Park Ride? (allow me to wipe tears from my eyes) And he got everything RIGHT! - Thank you Stuart.
This sounds very similar to saving files in PC Paintbrush (.pcx) format. While most programs I've tried can at least read those, the colors have a good chance to come out wrong.
Wanna know something hilarious? That bug was reported 2003, WHEN MY DAD WORKED TECH SUPPORT AT ADOBE! I laughed my ass off to know this bug that predates me STILL persists!
Maybe his mistake was using yhr option Save As instead of Export to? When changing from one image format to another, I always use Export because it seems to better ttanslate to the new format, while Save As is less precise and have led to loss of info
Computer files are so endlessly and accurately reproducable its easy to forget how temporary they are. When I think of the hours I spent making pictures on old machines, in formats that are no longer supported, for software that no longer exists, saved on floppies that I will never be able to access. That work is pretty much gone forever. Granted a lot of it was probably shit though...
Yes! I sometimes think about what will remain in a thousand years compared to what remains from a thousand years ago? Physical media is being erased in favor of digital.
This video shows that one person's shit is another person's obsession for decades to come... ...but In your case it is more likely to induce awe-inspiring nightmares
Ahoy: makes brilliant documentaries about iconic firearms paired with captivating, bespoke motion graphics Also Ahoy: here's some pixel art of a hamburger
I'm with the sailor here. I'm sure it's top stuff, but I've tried and I'm not really into the subject matter enough. Just not a big a fan of shooty games, I guess... at least, not ones that tend to have remotely realistic weapons!
"Art makes you care" is a quote from an unknown artist, but one that has always stuck with me. This burger made us care for the journey it took us all on.
Hello Ahoy it’s Dave here formally “mrdavetherave411” we played together way back in modern warfare 3. I have since switched channels and I wanted to say thank you because you are the person who inspired me to start TH-cam in the first place and I’ve just hit over 100,000 subscribers so thank you very much love the videos keep them up! BMD
He somehow picks topics that exactly land on "Things you never knew you loved from the past". I never knew this pixel art existed, but instantly it felt like staring at a fond memory. Something about it captures that "cozy" feeling of using early computers as a kid.
As far as I could find he works for a company called American Pinball currently, but the articles saying so were from February 2021 so they may not still be accurate. Good to see he's still around and getting work though.
This is absolutely amazing Stuart. Many years ago, early 90s, I was studying illustration. As a student I was marvelling at amiga digital artwork from magazines. One of them was the four-byte burger. Fast forward, 30 years later... damn something got into my eye. Thank you.
I think the final image on the Amiga screen is very important. The fact it has phosphors and not pixels reminds us that computer artists of the time were often going for a final image meant to be displayed on those contemporary tubes. You can see how the dithering disappears into the phospors to create a smooth shading effect. Modern dithering on pixel perfect screens is an evocation of this era, but not a recreation of its actual appearances (not without CRT filters, at least). Digital art is very interesting to me, because we seem to have relied upon the concept of files and the internet as eternal, when the reality is that they are not. Data can fade into obscurity, file formats can become forgotten, lost, nonconvertible, or unreadable. We can find ourselves losing valuable pieces of historic computer art with no remaining copies, only facsimiles in the forms of photos, alternate resolution/rescaled images, etc. We may reach a time when well known digital artists of today have bodies of work that may not be viewable in the future because of loss of the files. At least if a physical media artist passes on, their work remains unless destroyed, and if they are particularly famous, the work remains in collections or museums. The thought has always troubled me.
It is interesting, isn't it? Physical and digital media both could potentially last forever - with physical media able to be preserved using techniques that can keep the original safe, and with digital media able to be perfectly copied, making the idea of an "original" functionally meaningless as long as there is one lossless copy of it out there. And yet both of these only exist in a theoretical fantasy land where humans were perfect stewards over their own and others' work. It's a bitter pill to swallow, then, to realize that even in THAT scenario, it only lasts as long as those perfect stewards. Once they are gone, time would inevitably welcome all works into its entropic embrace. I think it puts me in mind that preservation efforts should be conscious of authenticity, but only to a point. As Stuart has shown here, being perfect sometimes just isn't what is desired - what's desired is to evoke the same *feelings* the lost art in question has. And I think he did an amazingly admirable job.
@@ArceusShaymin if anything this burger restoration is far more precise than practically all professional art restorations of physical paintings just by not having to pay consideration to as much data
Why would he have to draw sideways? What's the difference between an artist drawing a sideways slice of tomato vs a horizontal slice of tomato? Especially of a caliber as Mr Haeger?
@@JohnMarston-wd7tv Sure, that's easier to do strokes...but...what I'm getting at is: If you know how to draw a slice of tomato, then you can draw it in any position. Would you draw an accordeon rotated, like a burger? Or would you go "An accordeon is played sideways" and draw it sideways. If you'd draw it sideways, then you could draw the burger sideways. The burger is an accordeon, or a picket fence, or overlapping clothes in a clothing store. Tshirts hanging from a beam, all overlapping, from left to right. Would you rotate your image to draw these shirts stacked like a hamburger? Would it not feel unnatural to draw a shirt sideways from such a rotation, like a flag? But you can also draw flags, right? Those fly sideways, too. Etc, perhaps this is easier to imagine than my other reply.
@@dorklymorkly3290 what? you draw accordions left to right - they are predominantly left to right. but you draw burgers up to down - even though you consume them left to right they are mostly vertical, especially this drawing. Since it was meant to be viewed with the buns at the top and bottom, then drawing it sideways would help with the whole sideways thing!
It's really touching how much effort you went through to recreate one lone image done decades ago as promotional art for technology that hasn't been widely used in years. Especially because pixel art isn't typically appreciated now a days and as an artist it's really heartwarming to see how someone's love of an art piece, even 40 year old pixel art, can drive them to recreate the original lost piece. I'm glad you took the time to share the Four-Byte Burger with us.
@@duffman18 that is why i love shaders they come so close now my favorite shader even does the megadrive transparency right there was a whole part in creating the shader that was about getting the sonic waterfall just right
Hell. Yes. Another Ahoy video. EDIT: You can hear his satisfied exhale, full of pride right before the last chapter. He knows he's done something truly unique and, in a way, incredible.
As an artist, the very very end hit hard. I wish more people could understand it like you, Ahoy. Life is more than eat-sleep-work-repeat. Some of us need that little flash of creative fun.
The only people that say doing stuff like that is a waste of time are people who are not exactly creative themselves, never accomplish anything on their own except nailing a job, and the artist themselves. Self deprication is sort of part of being a great artist
"We have conducted digital necromancy, and brought a lost image back from the dead." You never cease to surprise me with those awesome lines and you really did an spectacular job with this project alongside whoever you worked with. Good luck on your next work and the following ones ...
Man, this is incredibly significant in its own niche way -- a passion project by every sense of the word. I'm sure Jack Haeger would love your recreation.
@@LongTran-em6hc He appears to now be working for a company called American Pinball, you can find that by searching the company + his name. I just realized he was the director for the game CarnEvil, so I'm doubly a fan of Four-Byte Burger now.
@@cyberskelet0n CarnEvil has come back around into my consciousness an unusually high number of times recently. Shocked to see it somehow appear under this video too. Maybe the universe is telling me I need to go play it.
I swear, seeing the animated burger ignited a long lost memory in me. I swear I’ve seen pixel art of a burger bouncing exactly like that, but I don’t remember when or where.
Somehow I managed to dig up a 30 year old memory and remember that it’s a hole in “Zany Golf” with a burger obstacle that jumps up in the same layered fashion! The burger appears in many screenshots of the game, so it must have been iconic. I wonder if the creators ever saw this image?
@@roberthesketh7472 I found in-game screenshots of what you describe and cover art. Seems like mustard is on the same side, composition of the burger is almost the same and tomatoe is also taking up the same percentage of the burger as in this video's image. I'm thinking yes.
im glad he called it a reproduction at the end after using the word counterfeit and fake earlier in the video. the connotations are wildly different and the effort put into this is amazing and should be celebrated
"A worthwhile waste of time" really hit me after all that. I smiled and clapped during this because, frankly, what you did here was *magic* to me. I use GIMP and i've done tracing or reproduction of elements, but never have I gone to such a painstaking, amazing degree. Thank you for this, and all your other content!
When you rotate a CRT, the earths magnetic field will affect the beam on a different axis that causes it to misalign with the color mask. Degaussing the monitor after moving it fixes it. If the monitor doesn’t have an internal degaussing coil, you can get an external tool to tune it up.
I love how this guy stops posting for months and suddenly emerges, holding a picture and asking, "Wanna see?" And takes us on an interesting history trip and restoring an important relic. Love ya man, glad I subscribed :3
As a graphic design student, I found this video particularly fascinating. I loved watching the process of reverse engineering how image was made to recreate it as faithfully as possible.
Another thing to appreciate back then, taking a picture of something meant you had to wait for the prints to be processed before you even knew if they came out. He would have to draw the image without saving, take a few shots with a camera, then cross his fingers before seeing how the photos came back from the printer.
I kind of expected some kind of twist at the end where you sent the reproduction to Jack Haeger himself, but this was lovely to watch all the same. Also, it amazes me how you can seemingly make a documentary about whatever topic interests you at the time and have us all in awe for whatever duration your new video has. Amazing job, Stuart. Never stop (please!)
I'm sure Jack was used to the vertical monitor setup from his work with Williams; I immediately recognized his style from his sprite artwork on Sinistar, one of my favorite arcade games. That sense of accomplishment when you finish recreating something that was once lost or only available in lower quality, is a vibe I get a lot when recreating music from Metroid Prime. Keep up the amazing work, I absolutely loved your "Trackers" video!
Reminds me of that old post on tumblr about someone who did Meme restoration as a hobby. They would take common reaction images that had been downloaded so many times that they had become crunchy, and recreate them to look brand new.
Before this video, I knew nothing of four-byte burger, but now I believe it too is one of my favorite pieces of pixel art lol😂. I have watched this video several times over the past couple weeks, and I am still enthralled by the adherence to detail.
This is the definition of a passion project in its purest form; along with the unrelenting effort, attention to detail and immense personal payoff many can just feel while watching ❣ If watching this was a waste of my time; I'll gladly waste some more watching it again 👍 well done!! 👏👏👏
The thing about pixel art is, it looks harsh on modern displays, but they were designed specifically to look good on CRTs and other older, lower-resolution monitors. Your recreation, on the Amiga monitor, looks fantastic for that!
The king of quality over quantity is back to bless the realm with his incredible work. I feel like he just stops by TH-cam once or twice a year, drops an absolute banger and then dips while we all sit around scratching our heads and wondering why nobody can ever seem to catch up to AHOY's level.
DUDE this is SO COOL !! i've never heard of this piece of art, but i felt so much absolute joy at seeing the recreation and how bright and colorful it is. and, of course, i couldn't help but smile at "we could make the burger BOUNCE." i really appreciate all the time and effort taken to recreate this piece of art and share it with us. four byte burger (and jumbo dog) now has a special place in my heart
Here’s an obscure retro gaming feature you could do a brief history about: the Boss Key. (Some old PC games had a button to bring up a fake productivity screen in case the boss was walking by, and some of these had amusing backstories.)
I love how passionate you are throughout this whole video, it's like watching a digital archeologist talk about reconstructing a lost masterwork. As a spriter and a lost media enthusiast, I loved this video
Who knew watching a channel for Call of Duty gun guides and funny finale puns would lead into literally over a decade of amazing content? Genuinely my favourite channel.
Forsooth, Ahoy's and Bobby's videos are the last two in my watch-later list because they're both, both long and interesting. Just one to go… (until 50 new videos are added to my subscriber feed 😒). But don't worry, Rohin, your videos always get the move-to-top treatment. 😉
Somewhat creepily, youtube recommended this to me on a day when I happened to randomly remember teaching myself enough BASIC as a kid to make my Dad's PC/AT play a very simplified monophonic arrangement of Für Elise through the PC speaker (it was the first proper piece I learned to play on the piano). As far as I can recall, the code was just a few parameter lines, a few long sequences of BEEP commands and a few loops. I'm sure it must have sounded just as cartoonish as one imagines, but as a 12-year-old it gave me an immense sense of satisfaction after debugging it enough to actually sound recognisable. The memory and the brief pang of regret it triggered at the realisation that I'll never see that little bit of completely pointless BASIC code again really made me appreciate everything about this video. An odd coincidence, and a worthwhile waste of time indeed. Thanks mate.
Only Ahoy is able to make a half hour video about recreating a picture of a burger from 1985 a wonderful journey with his amazing narrating, production, and video editing skills. Bravo good sir, I was fully mesmerized from start to end.
It's difficult to put into words why I felt what I did at the end of this video; but seeing that finished burger, a replica of an original image that I had never seen before nor had any nostalgia for, left me smiling ear to ear. And that bounce animation was just the cherry on top!
27:00 I'm not going to joke about this; This shot is a piece of art all its own. Not just the recreation of the image or its display, but the lighting, the aspect ratio, the framing of it... It makes a fun image feel genuinely breathtaking.
I've started and restarted writing this comment several times in the last few minutes. It's difficult to really put into words. Your videos feel very special (sentimental?) to me - special to a lot of people - and I hope that you keep on creating them, because to make a video like this, that resonates so well with so many things that I used to be very passionate about, is amazing. Your videos are so well researched, so well written and animated. It's inspiring and it helps rekindle an interest in things I'd long since forgotten about because I suppose I forgot how to be passionate about them. Thank you.
Well said. His video for "The Secret of Monkey Island" is one of my all-time favorite videos ever. And the game itself is one of my all-time favorites too!
It's easy to tell that this whole thing was a passion project, and such a nice final result! There's something beautiful about how pixel art looked in a CRT screen that we lost in the transition to LCD, probably the only thing I really miss about those old monitors.
This showed up on my youtube history and i just had to drop back in and reiterate how fantastic this piece is. I love all your videos, but the way you tell this story is just so elegant. Never stop making these videos please
This is so much more art than NFTs could have ever hoped to achieve. The Amiga displaying your Four Byte Burger reproduction with a monitor on it's side could seriously be a museum exhibit
It's crazy to think that Jack was one of the first, possibly _the_ first digital artist in history, and that computers are advanced enough that a piece of his art can be accurately replicated today with relatively little reference material. Thousands upon thousands of digital artists are around today, some getting paid money to work on video games, movies, magazines, and more, and they all owe it to Jack and people like him for paving the way for that entire hobby.
I've never encountered your channel before, but I was just enraptured for an irreverent adventure I previously had little interest in for just over half an hour. I think that says a lot about the way you craft your storytelling and the quality of the content you've made from it. Thank you for the walk through some history, and I'm looking forward to diving into what else is around here on this channel 😁
Don't forget the slick editing, and Stuart's almost hypnotic voiceover. This man could do a video about different kinds of paper shredders, and I'd still be on the edge of my seat.
Every so often the lights in Ahoy tower flicker back on, and we get a couple more bangers like this. Would never have imagined a video about an image file would be so enthralling
As a digital illustrator myself, this was such a wonderful surprise! Brought a tear to my eye! It's always a pleasure seeing people appreciate art genuinely to the point of spending time to digitally restore lost pieces of work. I am also saddened to see how authenticity seems to have been lost with a lot of folks these days who think "art" created with no effort whatsoever is to be considered "art" if at all. This right here is one of the best examples of authenticity in one's love for art!
Staggering. Beautiful production, fantastic narrator, incredibly original story... gorgeous from start to finish. You are incredibly talented. Thanks for this amazing story.
I am not poetic enough to truly communicate how much of a raw human emotion this video gave me by the time I reached the end. But I can say thank you, it was amazing.
During the design stage, the inventor of CRT monitors encountered an unexpected issue: deflection of the electron beam by the Earth's natural magnetic field. This is why your colors changed when you changed the orientation of the screen -- as far as the monitor knows, the Earth's magnetic field shifted by 90 degrees. I was, however, surprised to learn that the internals will eventually magnetically re-align to the new orientation after the field shifts!
I like it when Ahoy can choose to be less formal with his videos, allowing him to sprinkle some charm and humor into the mix freely, but even when he does this, he prefers to keep it professional, which i greatly appreciate.
this video has really scratched an itch ive had about lost media for a while. I'm quite obsessive about finding original source images/videos for stuff that is available, but can only be found in low res, and im glad there are others who have that desire to experience things in their most original and pure state
It takes a special kind of artist, a profound love/nostalgia, and some serious knowledge to recreate a lost work in such a way that respects the original, but still feels so unique and true, with the boldness of offering a new animated perspective. Once again a video from Ahoy shows that passion and preparation really show in your work regardless of the topic. A new gem on TH-cam from a known artist I wish more people knew. Thanks for sharing your passion and your work.
When someone loves a piece of art so very much, and is willing to replicate it or even take on the form of the art for a new purpose, you can just feel the passion flowing through. This video may be half an hour long, and covering a piece of lost art, but it's forced me to reflect on my own life, and why I've chosen the mirror I have for my own form and choice of expression. Thank you so much for making this video. I have a lot of introspection to do.
The discoloration gets cleared by degaussing (demagnetizing) coils present inside the display (around the CRT itself). The purpose of waiting some time before powering up is to let the PTC (temperature dependent resistor) that controls degaussing process cool down. Some later displays can trigger the degaussing on demand. External degaussing coils were also available.
It's amazing to me how many videos Ahoy makes that either seem niche or simple from the title, yet I end up immersed with the content and pleasant editing.
Having been born in the digital age, it’s disheartening when media we grew up with gets lost to time, so any preservation effort has merit. Keep archiving brothers
Holy cow, the idea that someone produces a whole bunch of art - while the programm is so new it doesn't have a save option yet - is just incomprehensible to me. True pioneer work, it's definitelly worthwhile to restore Jack Haegers art! Awesome video!
A simple pixel-dump has got to be the easiest thing in the world to code, so the fact that the software didn't have a screenshot feature at least, speaks volumes about the ineptitude of Commodore's in-house software division. AmigaOS, along with anything else that was good about the Amiga, was outsourced.
The entire Reproduction section felt like an episode of Art Attack from years back. Thank you so much for making me feel like a kid again, Stu, even if for just a little while. :)
Have you seen the genius names of the songs in this video? They're called Take Four Bytes Away, Top Bun Anthem, Mighty Rings, Burger Zone, and Ketchup In Your Eyes xD
Not only is this important to the history of computer art, art in general. I love that you documented it so step by step, including the monitor issue, it reminded me of Ask A Mortician doing a recreation of a Victorian ghost portrait, all the fiddly bits (and problems!) in recreating past art is super interesting.
Wow. Talk about nostalgia overload. Back in college we used Amiga toasters to photo and put together our stop motion animations. The Amiga was a paradigm shift in digital art. This video, like always, is amazing. Thanks for making it.
This was insanely interesting, man. My god. Please DO NOT ever stop creating content. Idc how long between, because evidently the longer you’re gone the powerful you become - far beyond 8000 power level at this point.
How do you thank a total stranger from across the Atlantic Ocean who selects an obscure and irrelevant piece of art you did years ago and turns it into an Archaeological-Techno Adventure Park Ride? (allow me to wipe tears from my eyes) And he got everything RIGHT! - Thank you Stuart.
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i knew you'd comment
Do you happen to remember how many colors you used for this? Curious if that was accurate.
Wow, so cool!
Is it ok for us to use the reproduction for personal use? I'm not sure how the whole legal rigamarol works there
>.iff "Save As" exists in Photoshop for decades
>somebody finally clicks it _not by mistake_
>it doesn't work
software compatibility options in a nutshell
This sounds very similar to saving files in PC Paintbrush (.pcx) format. While most programs I've tried can at least read those, the colors have a good chance to come out wrong.
Wanna know something hilarious? That bug was reported 2003, WHEN MY DAD WORKED TECH SUPPORT AT ADOBE! I laughed my ass off to know this bug that predates me STILL persists!
Maybe his mistake was using yhr option Save As instead of Export to? When changing from one image format to another, I always use Export because it seems to better ttanslate to the new format, while Save As is less precise and have led to loss of info
Computer files are so endlessly and accurately reproducable its easy to forget how temporary they are. When I think of the hours I spent making pictures on old machines, in formats that are no longer supported, for software that no longer exists, saved on floppies that I will never be able to access. That work is pretty much gone forever. Granted a lot of it was probably shit though...
Wow, that's a name I haven't seen in a while. Was fascinated by your videos too.
I'm sure it was beautiful work.
Hey cyriak! love your work.
Yes! I sometimes think about what will remain in a thousand years compared to what remains from a thousand years ago? Physical media is being erased in favor of digital.
This video shows that one person's shit is another person's obsession for decades to come...
...but In your case it is more likely to induce awe-inspiring nightmares
This is the most passionately i've ever heard Stuart talk about anything and the fact that it's about a picture of a burger is pure perfection.
His name is jeff smh
@@meylinlibertaskeef3346the User directory on his computer says Stuart
@@BoxySonic And at the end of his Iconic Arms videos, it shows his name is Stuart.
@@meylinlibertaskeef3346 All his videos are signed as "Stuart Brown" at the end.
He sounds so happy and excited about this art preservation project and the happier he sounds the happier I get.
I just realized that he writes his own music for these too, what a crazy talented man
Always such bangers, too!
What?! Holy hell. Dude is pure class and skill.
One man army
I hope he's using trackers.
The John Carpenter of TH-cam.
Hearing Ahoy get so happy about pixel art really warms my heart.
It's whimsical
Great stuff!
He was so excited that he couldn't even think about rotating the CAMERA instead of the monitor.
Ahoy: makes brilliant documentaries about iconic firearms paired with captivating, bespoke motion graphics
Also Ahoy: here's some pixel art of a hamburger
@@dieSpinnt he brought it up, but obviously the artist didn't create the art sideways
Dancing four-byte burger, looks like the perfect 'loading animation' for a pixel art restraunt sim.
yes!!
loading...
saving...
What about a health bar, like “chicken-o-meter”
And so my binge of Ahoy videos begins again
Except the weapon stuff
@@drunkensailor112 Why not the firearms stuff? Its top tier content IMO
@@benjaminford8173 Oh I do believe, but I can't think of a subject that would interest me less than weapons
@@drunkensailor112 half the weapon videos are about their apperances in videogames, if that's something that interests you :)
I'm with the sailor here. I'm sure it's top stuff, but I've tried and I'm not really into the subject matter enough. Just not a big a fan of shooty games, I guess... at least, not ones that tend to have remotely realistic weapons!
This was NOT a waste of time.
This was fascinating and I could feel your love for the original piece. Thank you for sharing this.
To me it was a little insight into the magic behind my childhood. I grew up with one of these machines and it will forever be close to my heart.
Does it matter if it is a waste of time? Some of the best things aren't exactly productive, but we still enjoy them
@@dafoex it depends what you define as a waste of time
When he realizes that he could’ve done it (and more accurately) in the save for web function, I think he’d agree it was a waste of time.
This is by far the most niche obsession I have ever seen. And I couldn't be happier to see you succeed with your little digital fascination.
yes
niche obsessions are the soul of the internet
you might like some of Nick Robinson's content. th-cam.com/video/-e6xOBCAVvA/w-d-xo.html
@@YourFatherVEVO and the soul of the psychiatrist ward
"Art makes you care" is a quote from an unknown artist, but one that has always stuck with me. This burger made us care for the journey it took us all on.
Hello Ahoy it’s Dave here formally “mrdavetherave411” we played together way back in modern warfare 3. I have since switched channels and I wanted to say thank you because you are the person who inspired me to start TH-cam in the first place and I’ve just hit over 100,000 subscribers so thank you very much love the videos keep them up!
BMD
Congrats homie
Ahoy finally mustard the courage to tell us how much he loves burgers. I'd grill him for more information, but I know he already has good taste.
fuckign beesechurger
Nice
@@badasahog I see what u did there 8)
😂😂😂. You win
You deserve a patty on your back for those buns.
This proves that Ahoy can make a video about goddamn anything and it will be just as intense, captivating, and enthralling as an 80's action thriller.
It's a wonderful talent of his
He somehow picks topics that exactly land on "Things you never knew you loved from the past". I never knew this pixel art existed, but instantly it felt like staring at a fond memory. Something about it captures that "cozy" feeling of using early computers as a kid.
I didn't know what to expect from the thumbnail and name but I loved this.
You gotta find the original artist and present it to him.
I saw it and my brain processed it as "fort-nite burger" and I thought he was gonna talk about the Wreck-It Ralph image
As far as I could find he works for a company called American Pinball currently, but the articles saying so were from February 2021 so they may not still be accurate. Good to see he's still around and getting work though.
Check again here. The original artist has commented
@@PratikAnand Good shout, that's very heartwarming to see.
@@PratikAnand thank you!
This is absolutely amazing Stuart.
Many years ago, early 90s, I was studying illustration. As a student I was marvelling at amiga digital artwork from magazines. One of them was the four-byte burger.
Fast forward, 30 years later... damn something got into my eye.
Thank you.
We need to get this comment higher up. Such coincidences in life are one of the coolest things ever
This man could talk about paint drying and it'd still be the best story you've ever heard.
MS Paint drying you mean. ;)
borger
okay, dude, calm down don't give him bad ideas
but would he go into detail on how theyre made and the reactions with concrete, wood, etc?
I think he just did
This is why I love TH-cam so damn much. An hour ago, I had no idea this piece even existed. Now I am fully invested in its restoration.
I agree, but... it's also kinda also why I hate TH-cam. I could've done something else
I never thought I could be interested in pixel art of a burger, but you have the uncanny ability to make even the most mundane things fascinating.
your pixel art is: damn burger
this isn't mundane.
those comments of "this man can make a fly look badass" are not joking
@@Noobwater far from mundane.
Anyone who speaks about something with passion can make it endlessly interesting
I think the final image on the Amiga screen is very important. The fact it has phosphors and not pixels reminds us that computer artists of the time were often going for a final image meant to be displayed on those contemporary tubes. You can see how the dithering disappears into the phospors to create a smooth shading effect. Modern dithering on pixel perfect screens is an evocation of this era, but not a recreation of its actual appearances (not without CRT filters, at least).
Digital art is very interesting to me, because we seem to have relied upon the concept of files and the internet as eternal, when the reality is that they are not. Data can fade into obscurity, file formats can become forgotten, lost, nonconvertible, or unreadable. We can find ourselves losing valuable pieces of historic computer art with no remaining copies, only facsimiles in the forms of photos, alternate resolution/rescaled images, etc.
We may reach a time when well known digital artists of today have bodies of work that may not be viewable in the future because of loss of the files. At least if a physical media artist passes on, their work remains unless destroyed, and if they are particularly famous, the work remains in collections or museums. The thought has always troubled me.
It is interesting, isn't it? Physical and digital media both could potentially last forever - with physical media able to be preserved using techniques that can keep the original safe, and with digital media able to be perfectly copied, making the idea of an "original" functionally meaningless as long as there is one lossless copy of it out there. And yet both of these only exist in a theoretical fantasy land where humans were perfect stewards over their own and others' work. It's a bitter pill to swallow, then, to realize that even in THAT scenario, it only lasts as long as those perfect stewards. Once they are gone, time would inevitably welcome all works into its entropic embrace.
I think it puts me in mind that preservation efforts should be conscious of authenticity, but only to a point. As Stuart has shown here, being perfect sometimes just isn't what is desired - what's desired is to evoke the same *feelings* the lost art in question has. And I think he did an amazingly admirable job.
@@ArceusShaymin if anything this burger restoration is far more precise than practically all professional art restorations of physical paintings just by not having to pay consideration to as much data
Stuart can always inject any of his passions straight into your veins with his words and presentation.
Never thought I'd watch a 30minute video of one man's obsession with a lost pixel art, but here I am. Much love Ahoy!
Oho.. watch a 8 hour bomberman compilation retrospective
Things like this are never a waste of time if you had fun along the way.
i love how he said "we can make the burger bounce!" like this is what everything in his life has been leading up to
The fact that it's possible he drew this on an 80s mouse while holding it sideways is insane.
Why would he have to draw sideways? What's the difference between an artist drawing a sideways slice of tomato vs a horizontal slice of tomato? Especially of a caliber as Mr Haeger?
@@dorklymorkly3290 As an artist myself It’s much easier to draw upright than sideways
@@JohnMarston-wd7tv Sure, that's easier to do strokes...but...what I'm getting at is: If you know how to draw a slice of tomato, then you can draw it in any position.
Would you draw an accordeon rotated, like a burger? Or would you go "An accordeon is played sideways" and draw it sideways.
If you'd draw it sideways, then you could draw the burger sideways. The burger is an accordeon, or a picket fence, or overlapping clothes in a clothing store.
Tshirts hanging from a beam, all overlapping, from left to right.
Would you rotate your image to draw these shirts stacked like a hamburger? Would it not feel unnatural to draw a shirt sideways from such a rotation, like a flag?
But you can also draw flags, right? Those fly sideways, too.
Etc, perhaps this is easier to imagine than my other reply.
Or perhaps, in other words:
Would you still rotate this image if the burger was shot out of a cannon sideways?
@@dorklymorkly3290 what? you draw accordions left to right - they are predominantly left to right. but you draw burgers up to down - even though you consume them left to right they are mostly vertical, especially this drawing. Since it was meant to be viewed with the buns at the top and bottom, then drawing it sideways would help with the whole sideways thing!
It's really touching how much effort you went through to recreate one lone image done decades ago as promotional art for technology that hasn't been widely used in years. Especially because pixel art isn't typically appreciated now a days and as an artist it's really heartwarming to see how someone's love of an art piece, even 40 year old pixel art, can drive them to recreate the original lost piece. I'm glad you took the time to share the Four-Byte Burger with us.
@@duffman18 yeah i have to agree. I feel like good pixel art today is treated as a cool novelty
On the contrary, pixel art is seeing some newfound love as of recent.
@@duffman18 that is why i love shaders they come so close now my favorite shader even does the megadrive transparency right there was a whole part in creating the shader that was about getting the sonic waterfall just right
Hell. Yes. Another Ahoy video.
EDIT: You can hear his satisfied exhale, full of pride right before the last chapter. He knows he's done something truly unique and, in a way, incredible.
As an artist, the very very end hit hard. I wish more people could understand it like you, Ahoy. Life is more than eat-sleep-work-repeat. Some of us need that little flash of creative fun.
The only people that say doing stuff like that is a waste of time are people who are not exactly creative themselves, never accomplish anything on their own except nailing a job, and the artist themselves.
Self deprication is sort of part of being a great artist
@@Royalname31for a second I was super confused reading your comment, then I understood lmfao
"We have conducted digital necromancy, and brought a lost image back from the dead."
You never cease to surprise me with those awesome lines and you really did an spectacular job with this project alongside whoever you worked with. Good luck on your next work and the following ones ...
Man, this is incredibly significant in its own niche way -- a passion project by every sense of the word. I'm sure Jack Haeger would love your recreation.
He isn't alive anymore?
I can't seem to find any info about him later than 1990, is there anybody have a clue here?
@@LongTran-em6hc He appears to now be working for a company called American Pinball, you can find that by searching the company + his name. I just realized he was the director for the game CarnEvil, so I'm doubly a fan of Four-Byte Burger now.
I hope someone knows someone who can get Jack to comment on this.
@@cyberskelet0n CarnEvil has come back around into my consciousness an unusually high number of times recently. Shocked to see it somehow appear under this video too. Maybe the universe is telling me I need to go play it.
I swear, seeing the animated burger ignited a long lost memory in me. I swear I’ve seen pixel art of a burger bouncing exactly like that, but I don’t remember when or where.
Somehow I managed to dig up a 30 year old memory and remember that it’s a hole in “Zany Golf” with a burger obstacle that jumps up in the same layered fashion! The burger appears in many screenshots of the game, so it must have been iconic. I wonder if the creators ever saw this image?
@@roberthesketh7472 I found in-game screenshots of what you describe and cover art. Seems like mustard is on the same side, composition of the burger is almost the same and tomatoe is also taking up the same percentage of the burger as in this video's image. I'm thinking yes.
@@Godl1kedso did Zany Golf copy this burger, or vice versa
im glad he called it a reproduction at the end after using the word counterfeit and fake earlier in the video. the connotations are wildly different and the effort put into this is amazing and should be celebrated
"A worthwhile waste of time" really hit me after all that. I smiled and clapped during this because, frankly, what you did here was *magic* to me. I use GIMP and i've done tracing or reproduction of elements, but never have I gone to such a painstaking, amazing degree. Thank you for this, and all your other content!
how do you know someone uses gimp?
They'll tell you
@@luiginotcool BUAHAHAHAHAHH
@@luiginotcool gimp. the linux of photo editing?
@@xjanise2412 Literally. The clue is in the G
@@luiginotcool anyone who has powered through the eye blood of gimps baffling GUI has earned the right
When you rotate a CRT, the earths magnetic field will affect the beam on a different axis that causes it to misalign with the color mask. Degaussing the monitor after moving it fixes it. If the monitor doesn’t have an internal degaussing coil, you can get an external tool to tune it up.
this sounds like a conspiracy theory despite being 100% true
all we need now is fbi involvement and we’re spot on
thank you I hate when people are just like "we may never knowwww it is a mysteryyyyy😇😇😇"
@@RAN480L64 you'll burn yourself out if you strive the knowledge of everything, including the most inconsequential.
@@RAN480L64 he most likely didn't know what was causing it and didn't exactly have the time to find out
i genuinely know about 3 words in your entire sentence but thank you for explaining
The animated burger was just sublime. We need that as a gif!
And with squish! I can't believe he decided to hold back 😂
Also worth noting Stuart produces all his own music for his videos as well
I love how this guy stops posting for months and suddenly emerges, holding a picture and asking, "Wanna see?" And takes us on an interesting history trip and restoring an important relic.
Love ya man, glad I subscribed :3
I _LOOOOOVE_ that this channel isn't limiting itself to history of games/weapons/etc. Keep exploring new subjects because this video is captivating.
Absolutely!
As a graphic design student, I found this video particularly fascinating. I loved watching the process of reverse engineering how image was made to recreate it as faithfully as possible.
share it with your teacher. maybe they will enjoy it as well
Another thing to appreciate back then, taking a picture of something meant you had to wait for the prints to be processed before you even knew if they came out. He would have to draw the image without saving, take a few shots with a camera, then cross his fingers before seeing how the photos came back from the printer.
I watched a man recreate the image of a burger for half an hour.
Frankly it's one of the best moments on the internet, and may it remain as such.
I kind of expected some kind of twist at the end where you sent the reproduction to Jack Haeger himself, but this was lovely to watch all the same. Also, it amazes me how you can seemingly make a documentary about whatever topic interests you at the time and have us all in awe for whatever duration your new video has. Amazing job, Stuart. Never stop (please!)
You may be pleased to see who the pinned comment is now
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I'm sure Jack was used to the vertical monitor setup from his work with Williams; I immediately recognized his style from his sprite artwork on Sinistar, one of my favorite arcade games. That sense of accomplishment when you finish recreating something that was once lost or only available in lower quality, is a vibe I get a lot when recreating music from Metroid Prime. Keep up the amazing work, I absolutely loved your "Trackers" video!
Or he simply drew it sideways. 🤷
Metroid Prime eh? Absolutely giving a subscribe.
@@I.____.....__...__ That's precisely what my first thought was too.
Reminds me of that old post on tumblr about someone who did Meme restoration as a hobby. They would take common reaction images that had been downloaded so many times that they had become crunchy, and recreate them to look brand new.
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Before this video, I knew nothing of four-byte burger, but now I believe it too is one of my favorite pieces of pixel art lol😂. I have watched this video several times over the past couple weeks, and I am still enthralled by the adherence to detail.
_"And_ knowing _is half the battle."_
This is the definition of a passion project in its purest form; along with the unrelenting effort, attention to detail and immense personal payoff many can just feel while watching ❣
If watching this was a waste of my time; I'll gladly waste some more watching it again 👍
well done!! 👏👏👏
You gotta send this to the original artist, if he's even still around. I wonder how he'd feel to see his art restored in such a beautiful way.
A quick consultation with the Google Oracle reveals that Jack is now art director for American Pinball.
@@bertjilk3456 email him a link to the vid
@@shaynehughes6645 I didn't go so far as to search for his email. But, i'm sure someone will alert him sooner or later.
This would be great as an art installation.
As an artist and an Amiga enjoyer, I very much appreciate every single moment you've spent on this restoration!
This was definitely NOT a waste of my time. Loved it
This isn't just a video. This is one of the most heart touching love letters I've ever watched.
Whimsical
Art Bromance
@@supersonictumbleweed bronies can and will be executed under decree of The Royal Council.
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I love his enthusiasm of resurrecting an old image of burger and LITERALLY reanimating it.
I can't believe I'm so enthralled at watching Stuart reanimate an ancient digital burger.
He certainly made a filling meal of it.
Same
The thing about pixel art is, it looks harsh on modern displays, but they were designed specifically to look good on CRTs and other older, lower-resolution monitors. Your recreation, on the Amiga monitor, looks fantastic for that!
I can't believe how much detailed is your work and how much effort is given in any your video.. it's really an art form
The king of quality over quantity is back to bless the realm with his incredible work.
I feel like he just stops by TH-cam once or twice a year, drops an absolute banger and then dips while we all sit around scratching our heads and wondering why nobody can ever seem to catch up to AHOY's level.
Because he doesn't bang out a video a week or, god forbid, a day.
@@Saavik256 With plugs for sponsor product
On a somewhat related note, @BobbyBroccoli has also uploaded today...
@@phelyan oh shit, genuinely thanks for commenting this cause i did not know that he uploaded a new vid as well lmao
@@phelyan oh man thanks for reminding me, I started to watch that earlier and got interrupted. Good looking out bro.
DUDE this is SO COOL !! i've never heard of this piece of art, but i felt so much absolute joy at seeing the recreation and how bright and colorful it is. and, of course, i couldn't help but smile at "we could make the burger BOUNCE." i really appreciate all the time and effort taken to recreate this piece of art and share it with us. four byte burger (and jumbo dog) now has a special place in my heart
Here’s an obscure retro gaming feature you could do a brief history about: the Boss Key. (Some old PC games had a button to bring up a fake productivity screen in case the boss was walking by, and some of these had amusing backstories.)
Thats honestly crazy ro hear, the office workers were gaming so much game devs added a button to fake work lol
I love how passionate you are throughout this whole video, it's like watching a digital archeologist talk about reconstructing a lost masterwork. As a spriter and a lost media enthusiast, I loved this video
Every video this man puts out is an absolute banger through and through.
Quality over quantity, indeed. He's like the Daft Punk of YT gaming content.
Who knew watching a channel for Call of Duty gun guides and funny finale puns would lead into literally over a decade of amazing content? Genuinely my favourite channel.
Ahoy is probably the only person that can make me interested in a digital art piece
I opened TH-cam this evening to find Ahoy and Bobby Broccoli top of my suggested. What a great day.
Forsooth, Ahoy's and Bobby's videos are the last two in my watch-later list because they're both, both long and interesting. Just one to go… (until 50 new videos are added to my subscriber feed 😒). But don't worry, Rohin, your videos always get the move-to-top treatment. 😉
Somewhat creepily, youtube recommended this to me on a day when I happened to randomly remember teaching myself enough BASIC as a kid to make my Dad's PC/AT play a very simplified monophonic arrangement of Für Elise through the PC speaker (it was the first proper piece I learned to play on the piano). As far as I can recall, the code was just a few parameter lines, a few long sequences of BEEP commands and a few loops. I'm sure it must have sounded just as cartoonish as one imagines, but as a 12-year-old it gave me an immense sense of satisfaction after debugging it enough to actually sound recognisable. The memory and the brief pang of regret it triggered at the realisation that I'll never see that little bit of completely pointless BASIC code again really made me appreciate everything about this video. An odd coincidence, and a worthwhile waste of time indeed. Thanks mate.
“The fake is of far greater value. In its deliberate attempt to be real, it’s more real than the real thing.”
this is like the most personable ahoy has ever been, and i’m not surprised it happened through him going mad over a burger
Only Ahoy is able to make a half hour video about recreating a picture of a burger from 1985 a wonderful journey with his amazing narrating, production, and video editing skills.
Bravo good sir, I was fully mesmerized from start to end.
It's difficult to put into words why I felt what I did at the end of this video; but seeing that finished burger, a replica of an original image that I had never seen before nor had any nostalgia for, left me smiling ear to ear. And that bounce animation was just the cherry on top!
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I'm not going to joke about this; This shot is a piece of art all its own. Not just the recreation of the image or its display, but the lighting, the aspect ratio, the framing of it... It makes a fun image feel genuinely breathtaking.
I've started and restarted writing this comment several times in the last few minutes. It's difficult to really put into words. Your videos feel very special (sentimental?) to me - special to a lot of people - and I hope that you keep on creating them, because to make a video like this, that resonates so well with so many things that I used to be very passionate about, is amazing. Your videos are so well researched, so well written and animated. It's inspiring and it helps rekindle an interest in things I'd long since forgotten about because I suppose I forgot how to be passionate about them. Thank you.
Well said. His video for "The Secret of Monkey Island" is one of my all-time favorite videos ever. And the game itself is one of my all-time favorites too!
It's easy to tell that this whole thing was a passion project, and such a nice final result! There's something beautiful about how pixel art looked in a CRT screen that we lost in the transition to LCD, probably the only thing I really miss about those old monitors.
This showed up on my youtube history and i just had to drop back in and reiterate how fantastic this piece is.
I love all your videos, but the way you tell this story is just so elegant.
Never stop making these videos please
This is so much more art than NFTs could have ever hoped to achieve. The Amiga displaying your Four Byte Burger reproduction with a monitor on it's side could seriously be a museum exhibit
If it weren't for the fact that I doubt the Amiga or its monitor would survive being an exhibit for long, I'd almost encourage it.
@@GayLPer Guru Meditation Error.
It's crazy to think that Jack was one of the first, possibly _the_ first digital artist in history, and that computers are advanced enough that a piece of his art can be accurately replicated today with relatively little reference material. Thousands upon thousands of digital artists are around today, some getting paid money to work on video games, movies, magazines, and more, and they all owe it to Jack and people like him for paving the way for that entire hobby.
You can feel the love for the art being restored. A privilege to watch. Bravo to you, sir.
I've never encountered your channel before, but I was just enraptured for an irreverent adventure I previously had little interest in for just over half an hour.
I think that says a lot about the way you craft your storytelling and the quality of the content you've made from it. Thank you for the walk through some history, and I'm looking forward to diving into what else is around here on this channel 😁
No matter the content, the aesthetic and music in these videos is just so appealing. Hats off as always Ahoy, keep doing you.
He makes his own music too.
Don't forget the slick editing, and Stuart's almost hypnotic voiceover. This man could do a video about different kinds of paper shredders, and I'd still be on the edge of my seat.
@@yetanother9127 Damn straight haha
@@Hemlock. Me too, gosh his iconic arms soundtrack is so well done and fits his asthetic for it very good
@@subarusensei3685 "The gods gave us fire, but blowing stuff up? That was our idea"
Every so often the lights in Ahoy tower flicker back on, and we get a couple more bangers like this. Would never have imagined a video about an image file would be so enthralling
Our boy Ahoy takes a work of art and casually makes it even better. I wasn't expecting any less.
As a digital illustrator myself, this was such a wonderful surprise! Brought a tear to my eye! It's always a pleasure seeing people appreciate art genuinely to the point of spending time to digitally restore lost pieces of work.
I am also saddened to see how authenticity seems to have been lost with a lot of folks these days who think "art" created with no effort whatsoever is to be considered "art" if at all.
This right here is one of the best examples of authenticity in one's love for art!
i really love how excited he is for a flying hotdog and a floppy disk burger
Staggering. Beautiful production, fantastic narrator, incredibly original story... gorgeous from start to finish. You are incredibly talented. Thanks for this amazing story.
I am not poetic enough to truly communicate how much of a raw human emotion this video gave me by the time I reached the end. But I can say thank you, it was amazing.
cringe
@@liukang3545 ah yes because it's so cringe to enjoy things
Bruh the only cringe thing here is you
@@liukang3545 fellas, is it cringe to feel things?
fellas, is it gay to gaze upon thyself and reflect towards our perceived emotional reaction towards the stimuli the world as deposited on our person?
@@toriitoraa probably a little bit, yeah
During the design stage, the inventor of CRT monitors encountered an unexpected issue: deflection of the electron beam by the Earth's natural magnetic field. This is why your colors changed when you changed the orientation of the screen -- as far as the monitor knows, the Earth's magnetic field shifted by 90 degrees. I was, however, surprised to learn that the internals will eventually magnetically re-align to the new orientation after the field shifts!
Can't wait for the Ahoy video where he describes paint dry and we all still watch totally enraptured.
Part of me hopes he does an April Fool's video on that lol
lulw no we dont, i skipped to the end fo this video, b0o0o0o0oring
@@liukang3545 ok
I like it when Ahoy can choose to be less formal with his videos, allowing him to sprinkle some charm and humor into the mix freely, but even when he does this, he prefers to keep it professional, which i greatly appreciate.
As Ahoy does, I also get extremely ecstatic at the sight of pixelated art of many meat-in-bread concoctions.
this video has really scratched an itch ive had about lost media for a while. I'm quite obsessive about finding original source images/videos for stuff that is available, but can only be found in low res, and im glad there are others who have that desire to experience things in their most original and pure state
It takes a special kind of artist, a profound love/nostalgia, and some serious knowledge to recreate a lost work in such a way that respects the original, but still feels so unique and true, with the boldness of offering a new animated perspective. Once again a video from Ahoy shows that passion and preparation really show in your work regardless of the topic. A new gem on TH-cam from a known artist I wish more people knew. Thanks for sharing your passion and your work.
When someone loves a piece of art so very much, and is willing to replicate it or even take on the form of the art for a new purpose, you can just feel the passion flowing through. This video may be half an hour long, and covering a piece of lost art, but it's forced me to reflect on my own life, and why I've chosen the mirror I have for my own form and choice of expression.
Thank you so much for making this video. I have a lot of introspection to do.
The discoloration gets cleared by degaussing (demagnetizing) coils present inside the display (around the CRT itself). The purpose of waiting some time before powering up is to let the PTC (temperature dependent resistor) that controls degaussing process cool down. Some later displays can trigger the degaussing on demand. External degaussing coils were also available.
Hardware wizardry.
Its that bong sound you hear when you switch on CRTs.
His Champagne glasses were stunning. It gave me nostalgia for a time I've never had. really great stuff
Truly exceptional masterpiece. As a child of the 80's the level of nostalgia hits home.
It's amazing to me how many videos Ahoy makes that either seem niche or simple from the title, yet I end up immersed with the content and pleasant editing.
Having been born in the digital age, it’s disheartening when media we grew up with gets lost to time, so any preservation effort has merit. Keep archiving brothers
Computers are just so hilariously advanced when you think about it. Data wizardry using nothing but magnets on a disc and lots of math
Holy cow, the idea that someone produces a whole bunch of art - while the programm is so new it doesn't have a save option yet - is just incomprehensible to me. True pioneer work, it's definitelly worthwhile to restore Jack Haegers art! Awesome video!
A simple pixel-dump has got to be the easiest thing in the world to code, so the fact that the software didn't have a screenshot feature at least, speaks volumes about the ineptitude of Commodore's in-house software division. AmigaOS, along with anything else that was good about the Amiga, was outsourced.
Someone should have told that to my sister before she crashed our mid 90s PC by filling up the hard drive with her god awful bmp art from Paint.
The entire Reproduction section felt like an episode of Art Attack from years back. Thank you so much for making me feel like a kid again, Stu, even if for just a little while. :)
Feels a lot better with the music.
Never realised how much the music adds to the video.
Have you seen the genius names of the songs in this video? They're called Take Four Bytes Away, Top Bun Anthem, Mighty Rings, Burger Zone, and Ketchup In Your Eyes xD
@@LuchtLeiderNederland Haha nice
as an artist i really appreciate this video and the work youve done. even the original guy commented and thats amazing. great job man!
Not only is this important to the history of computer art, art in general. I love that you documented it so step by step, including the monitor issue, it reminded me of Ask A Mortician doing a recreation of a Victorian ghost portrait, all the fiddly bits (and problems!) in recreating past art is super interesting.
Wow. Talk about nostalgia overload. Back in college we used Amiga toasters to photo and put together our stop motion animations. The Amiga was a paradigm shift in digital art.
This video, like always, is amazing. Thanks for making it.
Now Four Byte Burger lives on for a few more years, in the memories of everyone who's watched this.
A fitting tribute.
This was insanely interesting, man. My god. Please DO NOT ever stop creating content. Idc how long between, because evidently the longer you’re gone the powerful you become - far beyond 8000 power level at this point.