As a clarification, this video is not saying LPVO’s are bad. I just couldn’t find any video of people, who were willing to abuse the scopes to the point of failure. After doing this testing, it makes me think “budget” LPVO’s are a more sensible choice considering the failure points would most likely be the same as on expensive ones.
Just responding to the VCOG. Yes it’s 7075 and you would think it is durable however what I am seeing on any scope is the internals is potentially the week point as well. Brassfacts has a video of a SCAR and used a vcog in that video. The reticle shifted from the recoil of the scar. So yeah he may have or could have dropped it and it may had have less damage than this scope in your video, but for the reticle shifts without dropping it, I question all magnified optics. There’s plenty of videos about the acogs here recently and their issues too... i’m just getting back into shooting in the last few years and found all this information about LPVO’s since I used to shoot years ago. Boy it’s been a learning curve but the more I learn, as far as a fighting rifle goes maybe just a simple red dot that’s been shown to be pretty durable and back up iron sights. Maybe just keep the magnified scopes to your long range set ups and DMR’s
@@ridnthawave708 I agree. Scopes are way better than they were 10 years ago, but a red dot is the most durable option. I couple mine with a magnifier, since it gives me better range/info and if it breaks, its not destroying my sighting system 👍
Great video and I agree. I am a stickler for durability. Acog is my favorite optic although unfortunately, in the past couple of years, people have been reporting issues with internal prisms coming loose. I like the aimpoint Comp m4s. Thats what I run. For Lpvo’s I like the Atacr 1-8. Thats the only one I would trust. I wonder if the atacr is an exception to the lpvo rule and it eauals acog durability? Not sure i havent dropped mine yet thankfully. My atacr 4-16 has survived some drops though
@@willl4219 at some point I want to do this to an expensive LPVO. They could perform better if the material is thicker/stronger 👍 thanks for watching! Acogs are definitely battle proven
I have gone cheap MPVO. I have six LPVOs and figured this out: The pricier ones are FFP and the reticle requires a red dot buddy for up close. The cheap ones are not good enough (various reasons) at 1X to not need a dot. So, if the dot is going to be the primary at 1X, why bother with 1X? I am currently trying out a cheap 2-10x32. Apparently, dropping the 1X compromises is WAY easier to pull off on the cheap. Actually has very usable eyebox at the higher magnifications, the (larger) glass is brighter, and it has parallax adjustment. I am convinced this is the 200 IQ move.
@@ElsinoreRacer I agree. Nutnfancy said this years ago, but I think there are a lot of trend chasers on youtube. I personally would rather have a dedicated scope with more magnification and an offset red dot for a DMR type setup. Im an Eotech with bdc and 6x magnifier fan, for my “all purpose” rifle 👍
@@markzuckerberg3128 its a lot of force/leverage on the end of the optic. the only thing that might help, would be some type of pillar style “mount”, underneath the ocular lense. That might brace the end enough to keep it from bending. That would also look weird and take up space for flip up iron sights.
Not sure this info can be applicable to mid to high end LVPO's. Sure the body might be the same aluminum, but the actual design and internal structure likely has more thought put into it than a random chinese scope off amazon. I appreciate the video though, I don't see anyone else on youtube testing these out. Would be nice to see a test on a mid tier Vortex.
@@AndeB_Roll If I can ever get a freebie to test out, I really want to test out a high end lpvo’s durability. But I hate destroying a $2000 optic that I have to pay for. I would reconsider an LPVO as a go to optic (for certain applications), if I knew they would survive a similar drop test. Thanks! I started the channel to test out the cheaper stuff, since all other budget reviewers were shills and never really tested the items thoroughly. Im all for saving a buck when possible 👍
The durability concern is valid..but millions of hunters use variable optics yearly for months and months...I don't think breaking them is a huge issue...and if so it would be from dropping the rifle trying to hoist it up a stand 20' up
@@VampsMedia I contacted multiple high end LPVO manufacturers to get a sample to test their durability as well. Crickets so far 🤷♂️ Since the scope body is the same material, I expect the same results. I would be happy to be proven wrong though, and see high $ LPVOs perform better in this test.
@@poortac5568 I've seen, night force, vortex, Leupold, primary arms, and steiner tested. All high end and non failed like these. Build quality is incredibly important and you won't see that in $100 LPVOs also not to be rude but this is the first time I've seen a video or your channel so I don't think we'll know manufacturers are gonna entertain someone with no credibility yet so crickets makes sense.
The copium is sky high with the lpvo fanboys.Send him your high dollar lpvo vampsmedia.I bet it's the same aluminum and the same thickness and it will break the same way.😂laughs in prism optic with magnifier
@@justinmurray4652 LPVO owners dont seem to understand that scopes are fragile by design. You cant beat physics 👍 Ill be waiting a long time for someone to do this on a high end lpvo 😂
As a clarification, this video is not saying LPVO’s are bad. I just couldn’t find any video of people, who were willing to abuse the scopes to the point of failure. After doing this testing, it makes me think “budget” LPVO’s are a more sensible choice considering the failure points would most likely be the same as on expensive ones.
Good test to se the failure points in similar areas with different brands. I hope those companies you reached out to are willing to send you an optic.
@@andyprairiedog DiscoveryOpt is 👍 Thanks for the support!
Outstanding video
@@Hati321 thanks! I try 😀
Just responding to the VCOG.
Yes it’s 7075 and you would think it is durable however what I am seeing on any scope is the internals is potentially the week point as well.
Brassfacts has a video of a SCAR and used a vcog in that video. The reticle shifted from the recoil of the scar. So yeah he may have or could have dropped it and it may had have less damage than this scope in your video, but for the reticle shifts without dropping it, I question all magnified optics. There’s plenty of videos about the acogs here recently and their issues too... i’m just getting back into shooting in the last few years and found all this information about LPVO’s since I used to shoot years ago. Boy it’s been a learning curve but the more I learn, as far as a fighting rifle goes maybe just a simple red dot that’s been shown to be pretty durable and back up iron sights. Maybe just keep the magnified scopes to your long range set ups and DMR’s
@@ridnthawave708 I agree. Scopes are way better than they were 10 years ago, but a red dot is the most durable option. I couple mine with a magnifier, since it gives me better range/info and if it breaks, its not destroying my sighting system 👍
@@poortac5568i like red dots but dont love the lack of etched reticle
Been debating on getting Lpvo vs acog. Perfect video
@@phiNjustin thanks! An ACOG would be more durable 👍
Great video and I agree. I am a stickler for durability. Acog is my favorite optic although unfortunately, in the past couple of years, people have been reporting issues with internal prisms coming loose.
I like the aimpoint Comp m4s. Thats what I run. For Lpvo’s I like the Atacr 1-8. Thats the only one I would trust.
I wonder if the atacr is an exception to the lpvo rule and it eauals acog durability? Not sure i havent dropped mine yet thankfully. My atacr 4-16 has survived some drops though
@@willl4219 at some point I want to do this to an expensive LPVO. They could perform better if the material is thicker/stronger 👍 thanks for watching! Acogs are definitely battle proven
@@poortac5568 for sure. I would say specifically the Atacr is the most durable lpvo. Thats also the only lpvo I would consider running on my rifles
I have gone cheap MPVO. I have six LPVOs and figured this out: The pricier ones are FFP and the reticle requires a red dot buddy for up close. The cheap ones are not good enough (various reasons) at 1X to not need a dot. So, if the dot is going to be the primary at 1X, why bother with 1X? I am currently trying out a cheap 2-10x32.
Apparently, dropping the 1X compromises is WAY easier to pull off on the cheap. Actually has very usable eyebox at the higher magnifications, the (larger) glass is brighter, and it has parallax adjustment. I am convinced this is the 200 IQ move.
@@ElsinoreRacer I agree. Nutnfancy said this years ago, but I think there are a lot of trend chasers on youtube. I personally would rather have a dedicated scope with more magnification and an offset red dot for a DMR type setup. Im an Eotech with bdc and 6x magnifier fan, for my “all purpose” rifle 👍
Good video, thanks for sharing n' God bless
@@Soli_Deo_Gloria_. thanks, you too!
would love to see this done with the Sig Tango MSR, budget Vortexs, & Swampfox
@@KennyRodgers930 I would too 😂
I wonder if you wrapped them in foam insulation tape would that protect them or not. Good video. Thanks.
@@markzuckerberg3128 its a lot of force/leverage on the end of the optic. the only thing that might help, would be some type of pillar style “mount”, underneath the ocular lense. That might brace the end enough to keep it from bending. That would also look weird and take up space for flip up iron sights.
Would love to see this done with pa 1-8 compact with piggy back rmr
@@everythingisinfinite4602 If I can get an RMR send out to test, I would.
Not sure this info can be applicable to mid to high end LVPO's. Sure the body might be the same aluminum, but the actual design and internal structure likely has more thought put into it than a random chinese scope off amazon. I appreciate the video though, I don't see anyone else on youtube testing these out. Would be nice to see a test on a mid tier Vortex.
@@AndeB_Roll If I can ever get a freebie to test out, I really want to test out a high end lpvo’s durability. But I hate destroying a $2000 optic that I have to pay for. I would reconsider an LPVO as a go to optic (for certain applications), if I knew they would survive a similar drop test.
Thanks! I started the channel to test out the cheaper stuff, since all other budget reviewers were shills and never really tested the items thoroughly. Im all for saving a buck when possible 👍
Red dots and magnifiers are still king for pretty much everything you will do with a carbine
@@douglascuvillyed.s8211 I agree completely! Ill be doing a video on my favorite dot/magnifier combo soon 😎
The durability concern is valid..but millions of hunters use variable optics yearly for months and months...I don't think breaking them is a huge issue...and if so it would be from dropping the rifle trying to hoist it up a stand 20' up
@@captureoutdoormedia I dont see an issue using a scope or lpvo for hunting. I just question there durability for “serious/duty” use 👍
We dropped tested super cheap off brand LPVOs and now the mouth breathers who watch this will see this as truth. Cheap shit ain't truth!
@@VampsMedia I contacted multiple high end LPVO manufacturers to get a sample to test their durability as well. Crickets so far 🤷♂️ Since the scope body is the same material, I expect the same results. I would be happy to be proven wrong though, and see high $ LPVOs perform better in this test.
@@poortac5568 I've seen, night force, vortex, Leupold, primary arms, and steiner tested. All high end and non failed like these. Build quality is incredibly important and you won't see that in $100 LPVOs also not to be rude but this is the first time I've seen a video or your channel so I don't think we'll know manufacturers are gonna entertain someone with no credibility yet so crickets makes sense.
The copium is sky high with the lpvo fanboys.Send him your high dollar lpvo vampsmedia.I bet it's the same aluminum and the same thickness and it will break the same way.😂laughs in prism optic with magnifier
@@justinmurray4652 LPVO owners dont seem to understand that scopes are fragile by design. You cant beat physics 👍 Ill be waiting a long time for someone to do this on a high end lpvo 😂