I'm on the racket journey since I cracked my old Yonex DR's, I tried these two not sure what is was but the PRO was great and the MP was spraying the ball all over the place, I got nore control from a Pure Aero 100.
A lot depends on swing style. I recently got the pro. Now i can really take bug cuts and swing speeds and its amazing. I went higher in tension and i feel like i dont have to he scared to overhit. Big note! I tried it with a few strings and it made a big defference. Lower tension wasnt working so well. I have never strung at 56 but it works!
100%, I tried tensions from 45-51lbs and just didn’t like it, went to 54lbs with Lynx Tour and absolutely clubbing the ball and feeling confident and controlled still, such a powerful racquet yet there’s so many comments saying they don’t find it powerful enough, maybe they’re unable to swing the heftier frame…I’d be happy going 55-56 still as it’s such a comfortable frame too
@@ollesv7652 That's because I found the MP so cheap, and I figured I didn't play at a high enough level for racquets to make a difference. But I did find the MP a bit light compared to my earlier wilson prostaff 6.1, which is now too heavy for me, since I am no longer a young guy. That's why I added weight, and it's great for me the way it is now, at 303 grams unstrung. I've never tried the pro, but I think I would have no problem either. Modern racquets are all good. After a while, you get used to the racquet. Even at the pro level, players switched racquets too, for endorsement, like Djokovic switching from Wilson to Head. Didn't affect his game at all. Just took some time to adjust. So for all rec players, I think we can play with any modern racquet, as long as it's not too heavy or too light, and only the player can make that decision. I quit playing for 10 years and began again when I was significantly older and suddenly I found the weight of my usual racquet too much to handle. So I had to switch.
@@tomsd8656 He started out with Head all the way back from his junior years. Then played some time with Wilson and shifted back to Head again. The Wilson did not make him play his best. The racket Novak plays with now is a Pro Stock 97 inch Radical isued 14 years ago painted like a current retail Speed, a racket which is available only to him these days. The racket he has is highly costumized together with a tennis racket Guru from Head and is with longer handle (+0.25inch) and a lot of led tape at 3 and 9. probably some puddy under the cap butt as well.
I just bought the MP. I will add some weight like you. I just followed your extreme racquet’s customization, it was so good. I hope speed mp is also one of them 😀
I had the same problem with the Speed Pro regarding depth, spin and net clearance. I found going to 1.15 or 1.20 strings helped a bit. Solid frame though. Ended up with the 360+ Extreme Tour Nite versions with lots of weight. Love them.
I literally only demoed the speed mp because of the all black cosmetic lol. I really liked it and I am trying to decide between it and aero 98 personally
was looking at speed and extreme MP, after watching i think i wil go for extreme. same here that i find the word speed too loud on the side and cheesy. thanks for the comparison
Good morning, I would like to know which racket has more power between the Radical Pro 2023, which has a strung weight of 332 grams and a swing weight of 325, and the Head Speed Pro 2022 with 326 grams of strung weight and a swing weight of 326. Thank you very much for your reply.
I own both racquet. Short answer is Radical Pro has more power. Even if the cpi is 200 , the radical pro has more “free power” compared to speed pro. Speed pro is more control oriented. The power from speed pro is more depends on player’s effort.
@@williamzhang8792everyones experience must be different I guess, I had a 2023 Radical Pro demo for a couple weeks and have the 2021 Speed Pro, my thoughts were the Speed Pro was far more powerful
Speed MP was my choice as well. I want a higher trajectory as well. As a senior I want lighter weight as well. Can aleays add 1/4” lead if I need more.
I noticed the Gravity snuck in some of the footage haha Guessing that’s the “good returning” racquet. If you’re liking it, a new Gravity comes out next April or so. It has an amazing paint job too.
Very nice and helpful Video. I’m currently playing the pro, like the feel but not that much power and spin, so I overrotate my body often. I’m a very hard spin player that need also access to control/slice. I think I just wanna change to a 16/19 pattern. I playtest the vcore and it was very very good. But what can you recommend for good spin but also controlled. Your answer would be very very helpful.
Vcore is a good one. Extreme tour is a must. You can watch my extreme videos. I am a big big fan. Add some lead to it too. Also you could try a pure strike or a blade. Awesome comment. Cheers.
@@MPTennis Thanks for the Answer! You think blade is spinfriendly racket? What I heard, It is very very muted, so you don’t get that much feedback. I will try the head extreme, which version? And maybe I could try the ezone? Do you know the difference of control (Ezone/Vcore)
@@JacquesMltr You can hit spin with the blade but I wouldn't say it's been friendly in my opinion compared to other rackets. I would try the old extreme to start with as in the 2021 MP & TOUR. I feel like vcore is more spin-friendly compare to blade.
I've tried lots of Ezone 98s and use the Speed MP '22; the Speed MP is quite a lot like the Ezone 100, but a lot different to the Ezone 98, the 98 having lots more control a little less spin and power compared to the Speed MP. You need to try them in own hands really but they're very different racquets imo.
Great question.... The pro I think you could get away with. The MP personally is really light stock form so I would say no. BUT.... try for yourself. :)
@@andrewseung2692 if you like it customized i think it would be a great racquet….. if you like it without any customization that’s ok to just didn’t work for me
Excellent review! I have the Youtek IG Speed MP and the 2019 Speed Pro and both are great. The downside of the Speed Pro is that, in my opinion, when I used my regular string tension, it was very hard for me to lift the ball, I had little net clearance with it. But then I lowered the tension from 25kgs to 23.5kgs and it worked wonders. Then I found a natural gut offer and it was even better haha! If you're a flat hitter like me, both are great racquets.
Hi bro, if with the Spedd 18x20 I feel lack of wasy power, if I change to the extreme, will I loose lot of control? Thank you, saludos desde Argentina!
because prince is owned by tenis warehouse ! lol they give the best scores for sales, dont choose based on their numbers, just watch for their picks for categories those are indeed based on reality.
Thanks excellent video! I'm definitely team Speed Pro and MP! Touch version on the Pro, XT and 360 on the MP haha I make things complicated for myself, You are correct about the issues with both racquets 👍 but I'm just playing for fun with friends so I don't mind making the adjustments! Love the looks of all of the Speeds going back many years!! Thanks 🙏 appreciate you!
Good morning, I have a question. Some say that stiffness determines whether one racket is more powerful than another, but others say that it is the power scale or psi that determines it. If you can clarify that for me, I would appreciate it, because it happens that the radical, for example, has 65 RA while the speed pro 2022 has 61 RA, which suggests that the radical is more powerful but when you look at the power scale, the radical has 200 and the speed pro 300 suggesting that the speedpro is more powerful. Thank you very much for answering .
Hi there! It's a great question and I understand the confusion. The stiffness (RA - Racquet Stiffness Rating) and power scale (or psi - Power Potential) are indeed factors to consider when evaluating the power of a tennis racket, but they measure different aspects. Stiffness (RA): A higher RA value generally indicates a stiffer frame. Stiffer rackets tend to provide more power because they transfer more energy to the ball. However, a very stiff racket can also be less forgiving on off-center hits. Power Scale (psi - Power Potential): This measures the power potential of a racket based on the string pattern and tension. A higher power scale suggests that the racket has the potential to generate more power, often due to a more open string pattern or lower string tension. Now, regarding your specific example with the Radical and the Speed Pro, it's crucial to note that the power scale of a racket is not solely determined by the RA value. The overall design, string pattern, and string tension also play significant roles. In your case, while the Radical has a higher RA (stiffer frame), the Speed Pro's power scale of 300 suggests that it has a higher power potential, likely due to its string pattern and tension. It's not just about stiffness.
The Radical Pro has a different material lay up and different beam thickness and frame design thus a different return of energi response to the ball at point of contact/hit/strike...this despite the higher stiffness at midt-point. You cant only look at stiffness regarding the ball energy return.
I put 4g at 12 o'clock and 4g at the throat on a Head Radical MP, trying to keep the balance. That worked out well for me. I tried the 3 and 9 and handle at first but didn't like it.
You definitely have to. Adding weight in the head increases swing weight and makes the racquet more head heavy in balance. You then have to add weight to the handle/ butt cap to make the racquet a little head light and easier to swing (without decreasing swing weight whatsoever). Personally I add at least half a gram of weight extra towards the butt as compared to what I've added in the head. This follows the rule the rule that the heavier the racquet the more head light it should be. Tennis warehouse university has some good articles on racquet customization if you want to explore more
I'm sorry, but stating what racket is "better" is 100% pointless. There's no such thing as better racket, better strings, better anything. Every single person is different.
I'm on the racket journey since I cracked my old Yonex DR's, I tried these two not sure what is was but the PRO was great and the MP was spraying the ball all over the place, I got nore control from a Pure Aero 100.
A lot depends on swing style. I recently got the pro. Now i can really take bug cuts and swing speeds and its amazing. I went higher in tension and i feel like i dont have to he scared to overhit. Big note! I tried it with a few strings and it made a big defference. Lower tension wasnt working so well. I have never strung at 56 but it works!
100%, I tried tensions from 45-51lbs and just didn’t like it, went to 54lbs with Lynx Tour and absolutely clubbing the ball and feeling confident and controlled still, such a powerful racquet yet there’s so many comments saying they don’t find it powerful enough, maybe they’re unable to swing the heftier frame…I’d be happy going 55-56 still as it’s such a comfortable frame too
One of the best reviews
Thanks!
I have the radical MP. Added 4 grams at 12 o'clock and 4 grams at the throat and I was happy with it.
Hello Why not the Pro version? I am a beginner so just interested
@@ollesv7652 That's because I found the MP so cheap, and I figured I didn't play at a high enough level for racquets to make a difference. But I did find the MP a bit light compared to my earlier wilson prostaff 6.1, which is now too heavy for me, since I am no longer a young guy. That's why I added weight, and it's great for me the way it is now, at 303 grams unstrung. I've never tried the pro, but I think I would have no problem either. Modern racquets are all good. After a while, you get used to the racquet. Even at the pro level, players switched racquets too, for endorsement, like Djokovic switching from Wilson to Head. Didn't affect his game at all. Just took some time to adjust. So for all rec players, I think we can play with any modern racquet, as long as it's not too heavy or too light, and only the player can make that decision. I quit playing for 10 years and began again when I was significantly older and suddenly I found the weight of my usual racquet too much to handle. So I had to switch.
@@tomsd8656 okey thanks for your kind and thorough response.
@@tomsd8656 Well said. Great reply!
@@tomsd8656 He started out with Head all the way back from his junior years. Then played some time with Wilson and shifted back to Head again. The Wilson did not make him play his best. The racket Novak plays with now is a Pro Stock 97 inch Radical isued 14 years ago painted like a current retail Speed, a racket which is available only to him these days. The racket he has is highly costumized together with a tennis racket Guru from Head and is with longer handle (+0.25inch) and a lot of led tape at 3 and 9. probably some puddy under the cap butt as well.
I just bought the MP. I will add some weight like you. I just followed your extreme racquet’s customization, it was so good. I hope speed mp is also one of them 😀
Thanks for the support!
Nice video, I'm looking at the speed mp coming from a v6 blade. Have you tried the technifibre tfight iso 305?
I have not. I want to tho.
I had the same problem with the Speed Pro regarding depth, spin and net clearance. I found going to 1.15 or 1.20 strings helped a bit. Solid frame though. Ended up with the 360+ Extreme Tour Nite versions with lots of weight. Love them.
Another extreme lover! Awesome to see. Great comment
As someone that doesn’t know anything about tennis. You just spoke tennis language and I didn’t understand nothing. Which is very cool to me
Haha, don’t judge but the new look colour of this frame is making me consider it.. how would you rank this, the blade and the pa 98?
I literally only demoed the speed mp because of the all black cosmetic lol. I really liked it and I am trying to decide between it and aero 98 personally
was looking at speed and extreme MP, after watching i think i wil go for extreme. same here that i find the word speed too loud on the side and cheesy. thanks for the comparison
Thanks for great video. Can you give us full specs of your Extreme Tour please (weight, swingwight, strings, tension ...).
I would love to but I don't have a scale here at SNHU. Right now it is stung at 54/51 and solinco confidential.
Good morning, I would like to know which racket has more power between the Radical Pro 2023, which has a strung weight of 332 grams and a swing weight of 325, and the Head Speed Pro 2022 with 326 grams of strung weight and a swing weight of 326. Thank you very much for your reply.
Well... I think you need to try to see for yourself! They are gonna be close because the speed pro is 18/20 and radical is 16/19 BUT is 98sq.
I own both racquet. Short answer is Radical Pro has more power. Even if the cpi is 200 , the radical pro has more “free power” compared to speed pro. Speed pro is more control oriented. The power from speed pro is more depends on player’s effort.
@@williamzhang8792everyones experience must be different I guess, I had a 2023 Radical Pro demo for a couple weeks and have the 2021 Speed Pro, my thoughts were the Speed Pro was far more powerful
Speed MP was my choice as well. I want a higher trajectory as well. As a senior I want lighter weight as well. Can aleays add 1/4” lead if I need more.
That is true!
I noticed the Gravity snuck in some of the footage haha Guessing that’s the “good returning” racquet. If you’re liking it, a new Gravity comes out next April or so. It has an amazing paint job too.
Yes, very interested to share my opinion on the gravity the PJ does look incredible. All I will say is I did love returning with it, BUT.......
Can someone link me the PJ of the new gravity please
@@RokuX51 I believe there is a YT video circulating. Or on TW forms.
Very nice and helpful Video. I’m currently playing the pro, like the feel but not that much power and spin, so I overrotate my body often. I’m a very hard spin player that need also access to control/slice. I think I just wanna change to a 16/19 pattern. I playtest the vcore and it was very very good. But what can you recommend for good spin but also controlled. Your answer would be very very helpful.
Vcore is a good one. Extreme tour is a must. You can watch my extreme videos. I am a big big fan. Add some lead to it too. Also you could try a pure strike or a blade. Awesome comment. Cheers.
@@MPTennis Thanks for the Answer! You think blade is spinfriendly racket? What I heard, It is very very muted, so you don’t get that much feedback. I will try the head extreme, which version?
And maybe I could try the ezone? Do you know the difference of control (Ezone/Vcore)
@@JacquesMltr You can hit spin with the blade but I wouldn't say it's been friendly in my opinion compared to other rackets. I would try the old extreme to start with as in the 2021 MP & TOUR. I feel like vcore is more spin-friendly compare to blade.
@@MPTennis Thank you very much!!! Keep going! Very helpful Videos!
I will give the extreme a try.
No problem!!!
I have an Extreme MP light (this is my first racquet). For me, this racquet is too soft. What do you think, should I buy speed mp or not?
What is that "this" racket?
what’s your current racket that you mention
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Which string and tension do you use in the Extreme Tour?
54/52 Solinco Confidential 16 gauge
power and spin has alot to do with string choice and tension
have an ezone98, wanna try speed mp, what u think? thx
I've tried lots of Ezone 98s and use the Speed MP '22; the Speed MP is quite a lot like the Ezone 100, but a lot different to the Ezone 98, the 98 having lots more control a little less spin and power compared to the Speed MP. You need to try them in own hands really but they're very different racquets imo.
Do you think the speed mp is ok stock to play matches with d3-d1 college level? Or do you think it needs a little more weight/use the pro instead?
Great question.... The pro I think you could get away with. The MP personally is really light stock form so I would say no. BUT.... try for yourself. :)
@@MPTennis Would this be the case even with customizing the mp like adding lead tape and/or putting on a leather grip?
@@andrewseung2692 if you like it customized i think it would be a great racquet….. if you like it without any customization that’s ok to just didn’t work for me
How much lead did you add?
9cm at 3, 9 cm at 9. (Total)
Excellent review! I have the Youtek IG Speed MP and the 2019 Speed Pro and both are great. The downside of the Speed Pro is that, in my opinion, when I used my regular string tension, it was very hard for me to lift the ball, I had little net clearance with it. But then I lowered the tension from 25kgs to 23.5kgs and it worked wonders. Then I found a natural gut offer and it was even better haha!
If you're a flat hitter like me, both are great racquets.
Great comment! I use to use a Youtek IG Speed MP. Loved that thing!
Hi bro, if with the Spedd 18x20 I feel lack of wasy power, if I change to the extreme, will I loose lot of control? Thank you, saludos desde Argentina!
Sorry for late reply my friend. Been very busy. I would demo it. I personally think the extreme is a perfect end of power control feel
@@MPTennis thank you
Hi, good insights!
What head does Djokovic actually use?
He uses an PT113B pro stock mold.
Novak uses a pro stock 95, with an 18x19 pattern. Nothing like consumer Speed Pro at 100 and 18x20.
Can you review the Prince ATS Textreme Tour 98 - has the best rating on tennis warehouse
I will try!!!
because prince is owned by tenis warehouse ! lol they give the best scores for sales, dont choose based on their numbers, just watch for their picks for categories those are indeed based on reality.
Thanks excellent video! I'm definitely team Speed Pro and MP! Touch version on the Pro, XT and 360 on the MP haha I make things complicated for myself, You are correct about the issues with both racquets 👍 but I'm just playing for fun with friends so I don't mind making the adjustments! Love the looks of all of the Speeds going back many years!! Thanks 🙏 appreciate you!
Awesome comment as always Nathan, thank you! We appreciate you!
Good morning, I have a question. Some say that stiffness determines whether one racket is more powerful than another, but others say that it is the power scale or psi that determines it. If you can clarify that for me, I would appreciate it, because it happens that the radical, for example, has 65 RA while the speed pro 2022 has 61 RA, which suggests that the radical is more powerful but when you look at the power scale, the radical has 200 and the speed pro 300 suggesting that the speedpro is more powerful. Thank you very much for answering .
Hi there! It's a great question and I understand the confusion. The stiffness (RA - Racquet Stiffness Rating) and power scale (or psi - Power Potential) are indeed factors to consider when evaluating the power of a tennis racket, but they measure different aspects.
Stiffness (RA): A higher RA value generally indicates a stiffer frame. Stiffer rackets tend to provide more power because they transfer more energy to the ball. However, a very stiff racket can also be less forgiving on off-center hits.
Power Scale (psi - Power Potential): This measures the power potential of a racket based on the string pattern and tension. A higher power scale suggests that the racket has the potential to generate more power, often due to a more open string pattern or lower string tension.
Now, regarding your specific example with the Radical and the Speed Pro, it's crucial to note that the power scale of a racket is not solely determined by the RA value. The overall design, string pattern, and string tension also play significant roles.
In your case, while the Radical has a higher RA (stiffer frame), the Speed Pro's power scale of 300 suggests that it has a higher power potential, likely due to its string pattern and tension. It's not just about stiffness.
The Radical Pro has a different material lay up and different beam thickness and frame design thus a different return of energi response to the ball at point of contact/hit/strike...this despite the higher stiffness at midt-point. You cant only look at stiffness regarding the ball energy return.
if you put lead in the head do u have to balance it in the handle?
That's what I did but still didn't feel amazing.
I put 4g at 12 o'clock and 4g at the throat on a Head Radical MP, trying to keep the balance. That worked out well for me. I tried the 3 and 9 and handle at first but didn't like it.
@@tomsd8656 Interesting. Love all of the customization comments!
You definitely have to. Adding weight in the head increases swing weight and makes the racquet more head heavy in balance. You then have to add weight to the handle/ butt cap to make the racquet a little head light and easier to swing (without decreasing swing weight whatsoever).
Personally I add at least half a gram of weight extra towards the butt as compared to what I've added in the head. This follows the rule the rule that the heavier the racquet the more head light it should be. Tennis warehouse university has some good articles on racquet customization if you want to explore more
do u think the head speed MP is a good racquet for someone who has the extreme tour? forgeting about the feel...
Yes. Especially if u can’t get it to your spec. Sorry for late reply
I'm sorry, but stating what racket is "better" is 100% pointless.
There's no such thing as better racket, better strings, better anything. Every single person is different.
if u play on hard speed pro if u play on clay speed mp .
Well, you could scruff off the S and it'll just be Head peed... :D
😂
Try the Furi Arma Pro 98. Based in NY.
Me is way better