The hidden lore glyphs of Noita (early access)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ย. 2024
- There are glyphs written in various locations of Noita's vast world, revealing the deep lore of the game. Some of these glyphs only make their presence known when the player fills orb room basins with specific substances. In this video, I show all the known hidden orb room lore glyphs of Noita.
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This game deserves more attention
Its truly wonderfull
Metoo
9/10. Amazing game where you can be proud for every progress of yours.
But
Aftet your first victory, without looking anything up you just don't know what to do. You just stand there and... now what?
I wouldn't be surprised if this game was actually the recipe for a real Philosopher Stone disguised as a video game.
Magnificent work.
I can't even get past the fecking coal pits and this guy is figuring out all this hidden lore and shit.
I've given up trying to be good enough at the game to "beat it".
Winning the game is just a diversion for all the hidden stuff anyways, and it's all the hidden stuff, that are making this game so good, on so many levels.
@@michaelhenriksen7359 But a lot of these videos show there is infinitely more to the game than just beating it. A wild amount of depth that seems impossible to me to discover without some kind of guide. I like the game, but things like this show me I could never enjoy it to it's fullest potential. I praise those that can though, because it is really interesting to see.
@@ARUCARDFTEPES I completely agree. Just the fact that Alchemy is so complex (not as a gameplay mechanic, but as an aesthetic and as a core theme), That itself shows how deep the understanding of subtext and exploration the devs have, compared to 99% other games that uses "alchemy", where it's just a simple word for "poiton making".
Anyways, when my brother plays this game, he always cheats, because to him, the challenge is not beating the game, or being good at it, but experiencing the games' secrets with your own eyes, as well as figuring it out, The goal of the game is to become an alchemist, "an impossible task".
I helped translate these on the Noita Discord.
Now my broken Finnish-to-English translations have made it to this video
"Nature created the laws of nature" was kind of the weirdest one, as it repeats the word "nature" too much
(I didn't translate all of these, and most of the glyph letters converted to Finnish was made by people faster than me, but I was there, I helped)
Also I might've been too literal on my translation, and might've lacked the correct adjective to describe the dirt
@@samufinland5765 sä teit hyvää työtä, englannin puhujat varmaan tajus pointin
I want to credit everyone in the description. Do you know everyone's name? I credited Wymrite for now, but I would like to edit it.
Some games be like "Hey guys, I have some complex lore that you can find"
And Noita be like "Lore? Yeah I have that, but have fun finding that stuff"
gumbarius more like? "Oh! Lore?... Lore... Lore!!! Yes!!! I think i got some stored in a drawer in the back" lmao
"I have lore somewhere in my big arse mansion.. but I forgot to build doors to these rooms"
There's Dark Souls lore.. and then there's Noita lore......
Noita Lore, not only do you need to find where the lore is, you need to know how to be able to see it, and then figure out a weird script, and you need to speak Finnish to understand it. The levels of complexity is insane.
Noita Lore, not only do you need to find where the lore is, you need to know how to be able to see it, and then figure out a weird script, and you need to speak Finnish to understand it. The levels of complexity is insane.
I dont regret in any moment supporting this game, every bit whorts the buy.
And so called trippel A studios can't even bring out a game that doesn't need a day one patch (except maybe Nintendo).
I'm a big supporter of Indie titles, we already have a lot of fantastic great games thank to those people.
Love to all Indie devs out there ♥ ;-*
This game should go down as one of the best games of all time
@@UsernameCantGetMuchLongerCanIt Yup, and at least the best indie game award at the Game Awards!
Eggs are reference to Kalevala, where bird lays six iron and one golden egg, witch will hatch and from their shells world is created.
DUDE WHY IS THIS GAME SO COOL
IT'S JUST.... _KEEPS HAPENING_
WTF I JUST GOT TO THIS CHANNEL, NOW I DONT THINK I CANT BUY NOITA
This is rather interesting... Magic and Nature are at war, which may explain why various magical creatures actively fight the creatures who use tech, or Are tech. Although, if we are an Agent of Magic, why would these magical creatures be against Us? Perhaps we aren't an agent of magic at all. Perhaps we are an individual who has learned to Manipulate magic, much in the way that many of the humanoids who use guns can use Wands. Perhaps we are working to use this magic, in order to complete a Machine, which would defy both Magic and Nature, by destroying what they had established and turning everything into Gold.
Just some speculation here :P
Great speculation! This is exactly why I mentioned a little bit of my theory at the end of the video. I want as much speculation to take place as possible.
There are defects in the Magic side of the war, as per the Emerald Tablets:
"Woe unto all ye fools!
How ignorant are ye of this Art, for which ye would die if ye knew it!
I swear to you that if kings were familiar with it,
none of us would ever attain this thing.
O how this nature changeth body into spirit!
O how admirable is Nature, how she presides over all, and overcomes all."
So Nature is also appealing to those from the ranks of Magic.
It seems that we're missing two or more sets of glyphs, and if I'm correct they would reveal that technology also argues about how things should be, so hybridisation occurs, magic fuses with nature (the magical creatures and undead), nature fuses with technology (the enemies wielding weapons), and magic fuses with technology (the machines with souls and wands). They also all fuse in the alchemists, The Work, and Minä.
The game seems to hint that to know only a portion is no better than knowing nothing, and aside from the corrupted alchemists, and (debatably) the final boss, there are no enemies which embody all 3 spheres of knowledge, so it could be that the reason they attack us is out of ignorance, while the alchemists and boss are doing it because they have souls of mud and do not desire the work to be completed.
Knowing only a portion is WORSE than knowing nothing. When you find essences and orbs, it's a big long trek and your reward is shooting acid or light or exploding and killing yourself. Only getting them all has any benefit, and that's if you can even survive having them. Having a few is actively detrimental.
The Mage is a perversion of all three, and condemned by all three. Though born by Nature, we seek to use Technology to control Magic. Beasts of Nature use tooth and claw. Beasts of Magic need no device to call upon their elements. Beasts of Technology need only to use what is, not what isn't. Our wands and alchemy are both symbols of this perversion. However, what does the Mage seek?
A novice Mage will take knowledge they find, and sacrifice it for paltry sums of wealth. However, showing the Gods that one has found too much knowledge causes them to send monstrosities instead of wealth, as the novice may have learned too much and must be dealt with. A foolish Mage will delve into the depths, fight the dragon, and find their end to be terribly hollow. A dangerous Mage will seek to apply the knowledge they find, stealing ever more secrets of Magic until they become like the Gods themselves.
Wait so as an agent of magic why would we wanna make everything into gold.
A very good point!
@@FuryForged Maybe it's a reference to the philosopher's stone, and the magic of turning/creating gold from another object.
Alchemy. A lot of this game has to do with alchemy. One of the original things alchemists looked for before it evolved in medicine was looking for a way to turn lead into gold
Have you read the Emerald tablets?
"Among those who devote themselves to the transmutation of metals,
however, there can be no such thing as mediocrity of attainment. A person who studies this Art, must have either everything or nothing. An Alchemist who knows only half their craft, reaps nothing but disappointment and waste of time and money; moreover, they lay themselves open to the mockery of those who despise our Art. Those, indeed, who succeed in reaching the goal of the Magistery, have not only infinite riches, but the means of continued life and health. Hence it is the most popular of all pursuits."
@@Cyberw4y Also in another tablet, "The definition of death is the disjunction of the composite,
but there is no disjunction of that which is simple"
Perhaps the gold transmutation is some perverted idea of immortality? My other guess is that the self-transmutation is accidental.
The first extant mention of Väinämöinen in literature is in a list of Tavastian gods by Mikael Agricola in 1551. He and other writers described Väinämöinen as the god of chants, songs and poetry; in many stories Väinämöinen was the central figure at the birth of the world. The Karelian national epic, the Kalevala, tells of his birth in the course of a creation story in its opening sections. This myth has elements of creation from chaos and from a cosmic egg, as well as of earth diver creation.
At first there were only primal waters and Sky. But Sky also had a daughter named Ilmatar. One day, seeking a resting place, Ilmatar descended to the waters. There she swam and floated for 700 years until she noticed a beautiful bird also searching for a resting place. Ilmatar raised her knee towards the bird so it could land, which it did. The bird then laid six eggs made of gold and one made of iron. As the bird incubated her eggs Ilmatar's knee grew warmer and warmer. Eventually she began to be burned by the heat and responded by moving her leg. This motion dislodged the eggs, which then fell and shattered in the waters. Land was formed from the lower part of one of the eggshells, while sky formed from the top. The egg whites turned into the moon and stars, and the yolk became the sun.
Ilmatar continued to float in the waters for several hundred years, admiring the results of these events, but she could not resist an urge to continue creation. Her footprints became pools for fish, and simply by pointing she created contours in the land. In this way she made all that is. Then one day she gave birth to Väinämöinen, the first man, whose father was the sea. Väinämöinen swam off until he found land, but the land was barren, so he asked the Great Bear in the sky for help. A boy carrying seeds was sent down to him, and this boy spread plant life across the land.[2] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A4in%C3%A4m%C3%B6inen
What a piece of art. This game is not about beating it, it's about playing it...
I wonder if the three endings are related to the three gods.
Technology is in The Work where you place the Salt gear.
The floating island could be Nature's alter.
The Moon might be Magic?
All of which reward you with infinite gold. I haven't actually played, but I've watched enough to know there are at least 3 ways to turn the whole world to gold, minus ludicrous amounts of Draught of Midas.
I discovered this channel when i found Noita, im very glad i did, i absolutely love this game
The antagonism between magic and technology is a modern trope. Many ancient peoples, including the ancestors of today's Finns, rather believed that technology was a form of magic. In the old Finnic poetry, the blacksmith Ilmarinen and the shaman Väinämöinen often co-operated, and similar supernatural qualities were ascribed to both.
Nevertheless, it's great to see a game use Finnic mythology to deepen its background story.
Awesome, the game's intro makes much more sense now.
Just as I was hoping you'd release something new on Noita! Cheers
Thanks. I have a lot more Noita stuff coming soon. I’ve been working on several new videos at once :)
I had found glyphs above the final boss, in were the lava pours out, maybe that will have more information?
Was about to post this. I want to know what do they say!!!
Fury! These videos are getting better and better, the commentary and general editing is so smooth and fun to watch, it held my attention the entire way through. Seriously an amazing job, I love it!
Bought this game in large part because of you. The other large part was Simo.
I'd really love it if you did a new lore video going over everything that's known, as it's exceptionally difficult for me to find things without your help.
The secrets in this game are insane, every time I think I've known it all something else comes up
If you go above the boss room after the lava has drained out all the way you will find a big wall of glyphs. I haven't translated it myself yet.
Awesome Video dude. I have played a fair bit of noita and I even browse the discord every so often. But this is news to me. GGWP
Great video, mate! This was news to me and truly fascinating!
Thanks buddy
Game developer:So how many secrets you want in your game?
Community:Yes.
shouldn't it be the other way around?
I love this game! I also love your videos!
MOAR!!!!!!!
One thing I am pretty sure is lore related is that one enemy that follows you but dashes backwards when too close and always has a wand. I say this because its body is just like the body of the witch, but without a robe.
This is an extremely good (and extremely difficult) game, rife with lore. Not even a Souls ripoff, either. I'm a huge fan, and I hope to see more videos on it in the future.
It's a rare feeling, having a game, where you can't wait for updates, as they include more secrets/lore/possible mehchanics.
And the game is even brand new!
I can officially say that I can read the script.
The symbols correspond to the Finnish Alphabet.A D E G H I J K L M N O P R S T U V Y Ä Ö
Yes there are more letters in their alphabet but those are for loanwords only.
My current theory about the end of the game is that the player does not know what they are doing. They come across an ancient alchemical artifact and decide to insert it into a slot in a giant machine.
Alchemy is likely a mixture of technology and magic, so another possibility is that the player has come to this land to weponize alchemy against nature. By turning the world to gold they defeat nature.
I know it's a long shot . But have any one tried using the three alchemical concoctions in any of the or room basins? Like the life juice or the precursor chemical ? Just a thought . I'm not good enough at the game to test any of them myself
This is amazing. How do you even figure this stuff out?
This game just keeps on giving 😀
Dude, that was awesome.
My reading of it is that this myth is an examination of the human tendency to attribute meaning to things. Mud is already mud, but it our *distaste* for mud that causes us to percieve it as fetid or . . .inefficient? Maybe that's a translational thing. It's interesting that Technology is suggested to *coexist* with Nature, rather than be at odds with it. It's also interesting that, if Nature represents rules, Magic *is a part of Nature.* The substances you experiment with in-game, the way your spells are constructed, are all governed by rules, and if you know the rules, the process is predictable. In fact, taking advantage of those rules to create new and useful things represents the way your character utilizes Technology within the game, too.
A little bit of a ramble, but I find the meta-narrative of this bit of lore really interesting.
the glyphs really explain the intro to noita
3:57 What was that huge square pocket of water under the pyramid, surrounded by bedrock?
Water cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/626180507323072512/630535982327791626/cartograph8.png
Why...
@@k1ll3rM But why there, in the middle of nowhere?
Such a curious place for water...
Hey FuryForged! I found some more runes hidden behind the (extremely) dense rock just below the entrance to the boss room, under the bridge and under the lava. It's a little hard to see because the characters are pretty small and, but it covers a wide space. I wonder what they say!
not sure if this has been gone over yet, but there's a location above the floating platform where you place the emerald scrolls called "The Work" has hell looking monsters including a lava-spewing worm
Not yet. That’s actually the next Noita video I’ll be doing.
@@FuryForged awesome! can't wait to see it, your Noita content is astounding :)
If you get a watch that lets you teleport infinitely shoot up into the sky you'll find something cool Plus the cheese moon
How did you get that detailed map? Do you have a link to it?
Here ya go: www.reddit.com/r/noita/comments/dhfixx/spoilers_finished_an_83234_run_and_made_a_map_of/
There are runes in the moon that are the same styling as the orb room runes, will you talk about those later?
I'm actually rendering a video right now that is all about the work, moon, essences and the 3 events that happen at the moon with different combinations of essences.
I'll also be making another glyphs video showing ALL of the other glyphs around the world...and videos on literally everything else we know about Noita :) The problem is time - this short 5.5 minute-long video took me over 60 hours of work to make.
i m quite certain that Noitas lore has drawn inspiration from the Finnish Tietäjä (wise one or sage) and Finnish Kalevala (folk epic poem book) which says that the world was born from a swans egg :P
plus our folklore is quite full of death and stuff
plus plus: our folklore is quite dark, spirits trolls,death etc pretty dark stuff
Slime mist + cold modifier is a reliable source of snow. Idk if there is a similar one for sand.
Have been wondering where the lore videos for this game are lol seems perfect for it
all of the "egg" things are from a finnish story called "kalevala" and it is the most known finish story read it and the entire story might make sense to you too
Finally the intro makes (some) sense!
There is some hidden glyphs above the final boss's room, into the pool of lava that flows down from it once you beat him, a bit annoying to go there and you might have to dig a lot, but thanks me later !
great content
Sometimes I feel like this game was made for me specifically. Like, three Finnish dudes sat down to make a game for me, an American stranger they've never met. I love every single thing about this game.
A connection of the soul. It is perhaps best known in the field of music, and then acting and literature, but gaming is seriously starting to rise from its beginnings.
Woop woop! Nice work!
Very gnostic. I like it.
how did you find out about this and how are you able to translate the glyphs?
btw awesome video
the discord server probably
Yup. The Discord server. All of these are actually Finnish, so translation is fairly easy. There are other glyphs that are encoded and the in-game alphabet had to first be decoded to understand. Here's a reddit thread showing the decoded language - www.reddit.com/r/noita/comments/daupb0/the_secret_rune_alphabet_decoded_this_is_what_the/
@@0Smile0
Datamining, and the glyphs are in Finnish, but with each letter replaced by these random things.
It was decoded, and the Finnish was then translated to English.
Hey, I found out that you can make snow if you freeze a mist. I froze a mist of spirits and got snow.
I don't understand how people discover these secrets. Like who came up with the idea of somehow filling the right pools in the right place with snow and sand to see the glyphs and then being able to tell what they're all about? I'm struggling to get past a couple of levels without dying and have serious doubts of being able to discover any secrets on my own.
Wow, this game is incredible 👏 😍
This is an old video but it just occurred to me so I'm gonna slap it down: Remember to nominate for the 2019 Steam Awards! (one of my nominations is obvious, and I hope enough will agree ;) )
#1 noita-boi at it again!
Some post game Environmental Station Alpha right here. Jesus. O.o
Yup. I’m pretty sure he was in charge of adding all the secrets to this game, lol, because there are some very similar things going on.
@@FuryForged
Haha. Crazy!
I feel like every atmospheric, pixellated indie games of the last 10 years has come with its own coded, pixellated language for players to painstakingly translate. It's basically a glorious unbroken tradition of shamelessly ripping off Fez.
And Fez shamelessly ripped it off from Zelda and the like. Little tip: nobody likes pretentious assholes.
So the writing is character-swapped finnish?
this is fricken crazy.
hey, how does one decypher the glyphs? is it just a substitution method like commander keen?
funny, if we're an agent of magic fighting technology, it kinda makes sense in the world. since we've got these spells, and the enemies (especially in the deeper levels) have guns and tanks and lasers and such. very cool, reminiscent of Arcanum
There are glyphs above the boss fight, where the lava flows from
Yup. In this video, though, I only wanted to cover the glyphs that appear when filling the orb room pools. The initial glyph inside the mountain was used as just an example. I'll be making another video soon covering ALL of the glyphs that appear around the entire world in places - inside the mountain, above the boss, below the boss, underneath the lava river, etc. etc.
What about the runes above the boss room? When the lava starts dropping and depletes, you can see runes in the background.
I'll be making a video covering all the other glyphs scattered around the entire world. There are a lot of them. This video I wanted to focus just on the orb room glyphs.
thats frikkin spooky
So that's why the Hiisi all wield guns and use jetpacks.
Alarm going off at 4:41
What do the glyphs say which are hidden above the final boss chamber? Wait for the lava to drain out of the chamber above the boss spider thing and you'll find more glyphs up in there.
Whoa.
How... On Earth did you figure out what to put in the pools???
Noita discord
Datamining
Alright but who built the machine that turns everything into Gold at the end? And WHY the boss is just WAITING for you to come and sort of start the battle, to then, upon it's death, drop an important part of that said machine so you can do what "must be done", i guess? Nothing about this makes sence to me.
Not just this stuff, though, but also who " created" the character we play as? The character is sort of as clueless as we are, isn't it?
The shadow that covers it's "face", or whatever there is.
Fury I also found out something and ask you to make a video about it. if you move up from the Flying Island you find a place called the Work or something. what does that mean and why does this biome exist?
Sorry for my english i am from germany.
Don't worry about your English, it's fine! I've actually been working on 3 more Noita videos at the same time as this one, so they all should be finished fairly soon. The video on The Work might be the next one I publish.
Love this game...
Huh, interesting...
Are there any other orb rooms? I mean, I know there’s more orbs, and at least one of them is in a room, right? Like the one in the area under the boss?
There’s plenty of materials to use still too!
The previous Noita video I made actually shows every emerald tablet and orb in the game right now. And, yeah, there could possibly be more lore glyphs at 4 different orb rooms - the Sand Cave, the second Vault, the second fungal caverns west of the Underground Jungle/Vault and then finally the one in hell.
The creation story told in the glyphs I show in this video seems to be fairly complete, except maybe the end, but I'm hoping that more orb room glyphs are discovered, since that's a lot of basins and we do have a lot more materials to fill them with.
Other than these, though, there are actually a lot more glyphs in random locations already written on the walls, especially an enormous passage written right at the top of hell.
@@FuryForged Yep, I reviewed that video shortly after posting this. Sadly, I can't edit on mobile. XD
When is a new fmt video coming out
When it's finished, buddy. I don't rush videos out. It'll be here exactly when it's finished. All the videos I upload now take multiple days of work to make, FMT included.
There's no way this was uncovered any other way than mining the game files. Seriously.
So question, what are the glyphs wrote in? Like is it a Conscript for an existing language? It doesn't seem to be a conscript for english, as the glyph order doesn't match the translations.
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THE WHAT?
There are runes in the lava room above the boss. Any idea what they say?
Лор в этой игре весьма занятный. И не так просто найти
I would have never found this in game
even when mixing for alchemy you have to fill it to the top
so I don't see it happening unless you had that always cast wand and just happen to stumble into this
las combinaciones de un lado , no afectan el del otro?
Good grief this is impossible to find!! How did people even find these out??
You should go to the work it is above the floating island.
What about the text in the lava pool that drains upon yourself in the boss room
Like I said, there are many other glyphs around that I’ll be going over in another video. I wanted to focus on the orb room pool glyphs in this one.
Has anyone tried to see if more glyphs are available with milk and beer?
Ask vaati vidya to storytelling this. I want his voice
Did you miss the orbroom on tje right side of the snowy depths?also i think theres sum insode tje tree aswell. If you dig around for it
Nope, I did the one in the magical temple (in snowy depths.) There isn’t one in the tree though. There are other orb rooms/orbs, I’ve done another video on the locations of all of them, but these are the only orb room pools that create glyphs *so far.*
@@FuryForged thank you i wasn't sure what was going on. It must just be words in the tree then.
This is just advanced kalevala
What do the glyphs above the boss room say?
Невероятно... good vid
Top ten games where you actually played the villain. 2019.
What do the glyphs in the laboratory translate to?
Hey Fury.
Sounds like the lore of Kalevala
Why does this game have so much ridiculous detail?! Especially when the main play area is so small compared to the rest of it, and the core gameplay loop so simple? Is it a placeholder to facilitate creating fun mechanics, or what?
I certainly hope it's just a placeholder. Though it's fascinating that all these details are so far off the beaten path.
So it's just pure luck/trial and error to know which substance to fill in which basin?
They're the same every single time. We just had to figure it out initially.
How did you translate the glyphs?
But why do monsters also use magic staffs?
fuck
Yes, I knew it!