Awesome explanation of ducking. Another feature I didn't know existed. The electrical engineer nerd here, the "rise" relates to "attenuation" of the music level rather than the volume level itself. The rise time for the reduction of of sound level. I agree to the average user, it seems backwards.
I was about to wrack my brain as I haven't touched Davinci in a few months and then the update took away my usual Ducking in the Fairlight tab and was freaking out. You saved my editing once again my guy!
I have a few projects with some timelines set up for "old skool" ducking. However, with v19 beta, those sidechains stopped working. I didn't investigate any further, but they definitely changed something with sidechains.
The cool thing about the new audio ducking feature compared to the old Fairlight setup is that you can now use the dynamic compressor separately from the ducker. That's a total game-changer-super handy and I’m loving it! But... there's a tiny catch. The ducker only listens to the raw audio input. So, if you’ve got any noise in your recording-like breaths, keyboard clacks, or other random stuff you'd normally wipe out with an expander-it’ll still trigger the ducker.
Do you have a video about isolating audio tracks for interviews? I have two mics in an interview, one for each person. I'd like to automatically switch between mics as each person talks. I'm now starting to study how it can be done in other programs, but maybe I could use this ducking feature?
@@JasonYadlovski I have the two people on two separate tracks. I used wireless mics attached to the shirts of each person. The mics don't have good sound isolation, so I'm hearing both people in each Mic, which causes a kind of echo. Audio bleed, I think it may be called. Anyway, if you are looking for something to make a video on, I would love to see how you would handle this.
I would probably start by trying to use an expander or gate to lower the volume automatically when the person is not talking to help prevent the bleed of the 2nd person coming through. I might make a video on this to help show it. 👍
@@JasonYadlovski Thanks so much. Yesterday, in Davinci Resolve Studio, I played around with many of the Gate, Voice Isolation, and Audio Crossfade options. I didn't have much success on my own. I'll keep trying.
Really nicely explained! Unfortunately I still I think the lack of finer tuning to this makes it kind of useless for me. I just can't get it to sound right in comparison to doing it manually.
I've been waiting for this video, thank you. I've been playing with this for a couple of days now, and went back to the old method, and they've changed it. I use two audio tracks, and unless I'm doing something wrong, It can only listen to one track at a time. In the dynamics compressor, there is no send button, only Sidechain ON, and the LISTEN tab gives you a choice of which track you want to listen to, but not multiple. Source is a choice, but what does that mean? Am I doing something wrong? What am I missing. Thank you.
This will be great for some of my stuff. I know how to use the side chain compressor but I only have one narration track so this is a bit less work to get the same effect.
Haven't played around that much with this yet and not at my station for the moment b ut anyway: It seemed when I quickly tried it out that you could just create a compound clip of all your different dialogue tracks, place it on a single track and let the ducking respond to that. At least in the recent official 19 release. Guessing a bit but I think you can also send you tracks to a bus and duck in relation to the bus.
You could go the compound clip route, but If you have multiple audio tracks, I'd use the new sidechain instead. That way you can send audio to a bus, then use the bus. In the Ducker, you can't use a bus as the source currently. Here's how to use the new sidechain: th-cam.com/video/y2Vnp_XyRI4/w-d-xo.html
Have you, or could you, do a video on recording and monitoring equipment? You mention different types of mikes and headphones. I need the dumbed down version (what are the types and their strengths and weaknesses.
The ducking feature is great, but still I am grateful that you sustain from using background music all over your videos, Jason, because I hate it when a person is speaking with music in the background. To me listening to a person and listening to music are two different separate things.🔇🎶
I agree totally! Music playing while someone is talking is hugely annoying. Maybe I am getting ADD or turning into a cranky old person, but lately I find myself clicking off tutorials due to the background music; interesting tutorials that I would otherwise watch to the very end and like. Music can add mood and feeling to an intro/outro or a documentary, but in a lecture/tutorial, it is simply distracting.
Thanks for the great turorial! I guess you can solve the 2nd issue by creating new compound clip that have all the dialogs and then use the ducker for it if you want
You can use a compound clip, but I don't think that's the best away to do it. Certainly an option though....Mainly because your track level effects wouldn't carry though into the compound clip unless you open the compound clip in the timeline, then apply any track effects in there. But with all that work, I'd just use the side chain instead of the ducker. 😜
Nice tool and well explained as always. Well seen to have written the definitions (I am French and it helps me a lot to understand, I have an average level in English…). For my part, for this effect, I prefer to play on the voice and not touch the instrumental, have a track lyrics only + a track lyrics only with fairlight effect with low and high pass + the instrumental track. But it is true that I have little dialogue (I make videos about my sports outings, hobbies). So the must for me would be a ducker who goes further on customizing the diminished part. @+
Hey Jason, re can't use multiple tracks as a source - apparently you can by using a bus... It's mentioned in the bew features PDF. Haven't tried it myself yet.
Hey! The new sidechain feature works with a Bus, I’ll have a video out on that soon, but the Ducker doesn’t seem to work with a bus. I tried it and it didn’t work for me. But I’ll take another look at it incase I missed something. 👍
@@JasonYadlovski so, page 80, it says: To use the Ducker: Choose the target track that you want to affect (the “destination” track), and open the Ducker. Choose the Duck Source track or bus in the drop-down menu. This is the sound source you want to use to duck the level of the target track. If you use a bus, you can use multiple sources to trigger changes in your ducked target track. Excellent first name BTW 😉 love your videos mate.
Thanks for the info. I know the manual says the bus can be a source for the new ducker, but as of Beta 1, a bus does not appear. At least not for me, I just tried it again. I'm about to download Beta 2, maybe it's fixed in there. 😜 Using a bus as you mentioned above will work for the new side chaining feature. I've played with that and it works good. 👍
@@JasonYadlovski Yep, my apologies, didn't realise you had read it/knew, so thought I'd mention it. I've just tried it on beta 2 and you're right, it isn't there. Hopefully fixed soon!
...you can patch a bus (with multiple voice tracks send to) to one track and use that as the source for the ducker. thats a work around to duck multiple tracks....
Right now, you can't use a bus to enable the ducker feature. Not sure why. But you can use a bus to auto duck using the sidechain in the dynamics panel. It works great over there. A few more steps, more control over everything and you can use a bus.
@@JasonYadlovski yes...but you can do the workaround like described above. Patch a bus to a track in fairlight and then that track can be used as the source. Sidechain is an option too...
I used to send audio tracks to a sidechain. Now, the manual tool to do this looks different. "NO MORE SEND BUTTON". However, there is an OK button, but I'm not sure how the new tool works. Will you please make a video to explain the change's new features in Fairlight?
You got it! I’ve already got a video on it, check it out here: New SIDECHAIN in Davinci Resolve 19! Better and more Versatile! th-cam.com/video/y2Vnp_XyRI4/w-d-xo.html
Great tutorial, Mr. Yadlovski. I recall from your previous tips, that we used to use the Compressor in order to do audio ducking. Is this an alternative or can it be used simultaneously? Thank you in advance.
Thanks! I'd say you would use either the ducker OR the updated sidchain, but not both at the same time. I just put out a video about the sidechain and using the compressor because it's slightly different than it used to be, but can still accomplish the same thing. Here's the vid: th-cam.com/video/y2Vnp_XyRI4/w-d-xo.html
You could do that if necessary. 👍 I'd probably keep the individual clips in their own track and use the updated side chain feature using a dialogue bus.
@@JasonYadlovski as a hobbyist I try to keep it simple - and adding music would be one of the last steps (I know, cutting to the beat is also an option, but that could also be done, before creating an compound clip) The Compound clips can be put back to the originals, if needed, with a click anyway. But I´m still at the beginning of the learning curve ;-)
Hey, awesome content on your channel!! If you ever contact at Blackmagic, ask them to let the Group feature allow grouping of two or more tracks that will respond to the Ducker. In my case, I have a 20 minute piece that with both dialogue and narration and it would be great to have the music respond to a grouping of them. I created the group but Ducker doesn't see it. Probably an easy fix for beta 4. You might also ask them to add keyframes wherever the audio was ducked so that we can go in and improve the ones that aren't good enough. Thanks again!!
I thought the the ducker was supposed to react to a bus - so instead of grouping, just send the tracks to a bus. But the option to use a bus as the source isn't there yet from what I see.
You will know much more than I about that. I'm pretty much a beginner to sound mixing. Hopefully BM will be able to at least allow the ducker to add keyframes. That would give an overall duck with the ability to manually change certain parts. As it is, I believe that every duck has to follow the same settings, correct?
Every duck will follow the same settings but you can just add keyframes right in the audio track to modify how the duck works. I’ve done that a bunch of times. 😜
,... and of course, after reading another article I come back and see that you actually have to click on ythe blank space around the track title to reveal another inspector menu thatg has an overlap of the same options as the regular inspecor menu.. doesn't this scream bad UI? Anyway, thank you for the video :)
Hi Jason, is there a tool in davinci that allows you to automatically lower the music only in the frequencies used by the voice? Thank you and congratulations for the channel
Jason, Good helpful tips and sounds like keeping all dialog on one track could be most advantageous as well. Any date yet for the official release of version 19? Also, someone absconded with your TH-cam plaque! You're a good teacher and look forward to your next video.
Thanks! No date for DR 19 that I know of yet. The plaque is still there, just decided to change up the camera angle so I don’t have to move my monitor every time I want to film.
Thanks for this easy to understand demo. Nice and easier than the Compressor way. Do the advanced settings affect the controls in the Compressor (Attack, Hold Release)? Or are they independent of each other?
Thanks a lot for this video:) I asked for something similar on the Blackmagic forum, actually I just wanted them to add a Lookahead(offset) function and extend the Atack time, but this is what I wanted for Sidechain. I don't know if I was partially heard. It would be nice for people to know who inspired the new feature, it would be encouraging. If I create a bus with multiple tracks in Faitlight, can I select in Ducker Bus instead of a track?
So far you can’t select a bus for the ducker, but in the literature, Blackmagic put out it says you can. I imagine in the official release you might be able to do that. You can select the bus with the new side chaining feature if you want to do it that way.
Nice explanations and tutorial Jason. good job. Did you try putting the multiple tracks into a compound clip - seems to me that you could then add a track OFX and it would apply to the whole track - haven't tested it with the ducker, but I know I can add over effects to compound clips and it works like a bus.
Thanks Jim. I didn’t try making it a compound clip, but I did try it with a bus and it doesn’t work with a bus. I’ll have to give the compound clip idea a try.
Jason, your tutorials are amazing, thanks. With this one I have a problema I can't solve: when I click on the audio track, the Ducker function doesn't appear where you it will, it still has the old stuff (Volume, Pan, Dialogue Leveler, Pitch, Speed Change and Equalizer). How do I get it to show waht I see in your video? And yes, I'm running Davinci 19, I checked :)
Hello, first of all thank you for your work which I follow regularly. I have a question : to lower the background music during the dialogues, no problem achieving this effect but big problem to make multiple interactions. I want to affect a track with a dialogue track, and affect another track with the result of the 2 previous tracks, so I need to be able to select the "sends" for each track. So far impossible to do, do you have a solution? Thanks.
Thanks for watching my vids! You're right you can't do what you want with the ducker, but you can with the new updated sidchain feature. I've got a video coming out about it at 9:45am EST today called - Advanced SIDE-CHAIN Feature In Davinci Resolve 19 - Beyond The New & Basic Ducker - I'll show you how to send multiple sources to a bus, then use the bus as the source to duck music. Hopefully this video will help you out.
I have this problem and I want to use the new Ducker, but I have multiple dialog tracks. Could I use a Bus with the ducker? I was hoping you were going to show how to do that. Maybe an idea for a future video?
Thanks for the tutorial! I have some trouble with the hold though. In my vlogs I sometimes don't talk for a short moment but I want my music to stay ducked. Those short spikes of background music sound pretty bad in my opinion. I am coming from lumafusion where the whole clip would be ducked instead of the app looking for speech. Is there anysetting where I can force DaVinci to duck the music even without speech? Thanks! edit: Just found a solution someone on the blackmagic forums offered. If you add another track with any kind of white noise you can either keyframe toggle it on and off or just cut it according to where you want your ducking (this is what I just tried). Set this track as the source for ducking and mute the track. Appears to be a nice workaround and even gives me more control of when to start/stop the ducking by just adjusting the ends of my whitenoise clip. All the other settings like level, rise, etc. remain as you set them.
You can try increasing the hold time in the ducker so the track doesn't spike up on you. But the ducker only lets you 'hold' to 1 second. If that doesn't work, I'd use the side chain method. Using the side chain will allow a hold time of up to 4 seconds. I think this would be easier than using a second track, etc. Hope this helps!
@@JasonYadlovski Thanks! Yes, the full one second gave me those spikes. I'll have a look at the side chain method, maybe I like it even better. Have a great day!
I wish they had an option to set the threshold in the new Ducker. I have ambient audio in my b-roll that I want to come through under the full volume music, but it wants to duck even when the clip is set to -30db. Guess I'll have to move the audio to a different track...
It seems like it lowers, and then dialogue starts. I always like to have it blend a little more. So when I duck my music, I make it sound more seemless and smooth. Is there a way to choose the point that it tries to duck at? For example it sounds like the "end point" is just before the dialogue actually starts. Can we set it so the end point is slightly after dialogue starts?
How do we manually do it, like in v18 and before? I don't see the 'send' command in the compressor anymore. This is great, but I have longer pauses and want to force the hold to more than 1s.
Here’s a video on how to do it the manual way like before: New SIDECHAIN in Davinci Resolve 19! Better and more Versatile! th-cam.com/video/y2Vnp_XyRI4/w-d-xo.html
I have Studio 18.6 and see Voice Isolation and Dialogue Leveler but Dialogue Seperator, Music Remixer and Ducker are not on the list. Am I missing something?
Its great but for some reason it still has these little peeks in between the audio that should fix itself even when you have turned everything up to the max. I wish they had it to where you could do it manually in some areas.
Yeah, that would work. I tried it and it didn't work at this point. I did reach out to BMD and inquire about it.....just incase I was doing something wrong. 😜
can you apply the ducker to a bus? like if I have multipl edialogue and music tracks bussed to a dialogue and music bus can I apply the ducker on the music bus against the dialogue bus?
So far all my tests, you cannot apply to a bus. You would have to use the new side chain feature, which I’ll have a video out about in the next day or so with the new sidechain feature, you can use a Buss as the source.
This question has nothing to do with this video or audio. When you put your first clip on the timeline DR automatically creates a timeline called "Timeline 1". How can I rename THAT timeline?
Hey! 2 ways - just right click on the timeline in the media pool and choose 'rename' or if you have the timeline tabs showing just above the timeline itself, right click on the name there and choose 'rename'. 😁
@@JasonYadlovski I HATE IT when things do not work!!! I am running 18.6.5 BUILD 7 PAID version. I have one six minute clip in DR. I see, in the media pool the video clip then "Timeline 1" When I right click on "Timeline 1" I do not see "rename". I have 15 options the only two things that start with "R" is "Remove Timeline... and "Restore Timeline backup" I do not understand what the "timeline tabs" are. I have Reset UI Layout and I still do not see any timeline tabs. I am very sorry to be such a problem.
I think regarding the multiple talking tracks….i would simply edit everything as normal but without the audio, then render that! And then use ducking on the rendered edited video making the multiple voices in one talk track! Takes a little longer but, it’d be worth it I guess……
What about when the "music" track isn't music? For example, making a reaction/comentary video, where you have the dialogue from a movie or TV show, and you want that to duck out while you speak over it?
@@JasonYadlovski I tried it. I happened to come across your video, just in the moment I was working on such a project. Doesn't really do it. However, that might be due to recording issues. I'm going to try again.
Strange thing. I've just decided to buy the Studio version of Da Vinci Resolve, paid for it, but the download options didn't include my Windows 64 bit laptop 🤔
All done now. The download option Windows x86, I associated with bit 32 computers, but apparently it's good for 64 bit too. So it's my fault, I was just wary of downloading the wrong version. So now I have Studio, the fun can begin. Thanks, Jason.
How would you duck audio between 2 people talking? (here is the setup: each person has its own mic, but if person A talks the mic of person B records the voice of person A at a lower volume), since both mics recording if one peson speaks, there ar no clear gabts in the audio track. How can I lower the volume of track B if Person A speaks and lower track A if Person B speaks? Is this possible?
I would probably try and use a gate or an expander which will automatically lower the volume when the main person in that recording is not talking. I may try and make a video about this, I’ve gotten a few questions on it lately.
I guess this only works if your music and speaking tracks are separate? I have an old video track with both music and speaking on the same track. We're literally drowned out by the music.. any solution Jason?
Ideally, yes, they need to be in separate tracks. If you have Studio, you can check out this video and do the exact same thing that I show. th-cam.com/video/qeKmspF0LVM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1zC0QOZ1dqKIvtgz
Very Strange, I have the latest version of Divinci Resolve and the "Ducker" tool does not appear under the audio tab of my inspector. Any suggestions? Thank you
yeah it’s very strange. The track is selected, I even tried the traditional way of ducking using a send, but the send seems to be inactive and I’m not able to use it. Very, very strange.
@@Dimitri8907 you’re probably selecting the actual audio instead of the track for the audio. Press where it says audio 1 or audio 2 and it should show up.
Just a thought, how about you create another track and duplicate the music but this time use the voice source 2. no, that won’t work. I’m being stupid, manually merge the audio to one track. Painful though.
Make sure you select the track by clicking in the header area - below the track name. Then turn on the ducker in the inspector, and choose the source track to react to. It should work for ya....
Correct, if you want to use multiple tracks for ducking, here's how to do it in Resolve 19 using the new sidechain: th-cam.com/video/y2Vnp_XyRI4/w-d-xo.html
@@JasonYadlovski Oh yes, I eventually ended up finding the same solution (the bus technique) after shouting and cursing the Blackmagic team for making changes, when in fact, it's just so much more practical with the buses... the problem... it's just the changes really... ha ha ha
I have an issue though. The ducker gets the audio before any track level adjustments and effects. Meaning you have to do effects and audio levels per clip and not the whole track. Even the Mixer in the Edit page doesn't affect the ducker if you lower the whole voice track to see where the threshold is. Example: If you have background noise you need to use the voice isolation on the clip... If you use the isolation on the voice track the ducker will skip it and remain ducked forever because it's picking up background noise even though the track has voice isolation on. Is this solvable only by using Dynamics in the Fairlight page?
Now I'm experimenting with something else and I can't figure how it could be done. I want to work like nodes function. Track1 has voice and interesting background noise. Track2 has just music. I want Track1 to play as is and Track2 to duck only to the voice, not the noise. I tried sending Track1 to a Bus so that I can use any of the effects like Voice Isolation.. But there are no such effects for Busses, they only exist for Tracks. A weird and difficult way would be to copy everything from Track1 to a Track3 with Voice Isolation and unpatch it from the main Bus so it can't be heard but Track2 can still react to the audio. If everything else is done and locked it can be done, but if there is any new change to Track1 I'd have to copy again the whole track over to 3. How would you go about it? I have a feeling there is no other way. A nice way would just be to have Busses accept those few effects.
At 1:15 on your video shows the docking thing but my 19.1 no "Ducker" is present. Is it in a newer version? I edit a video of a talk once a week. V1 has the video. A1 has the audio that comes with the video. I add V2 for some intro music at the start and finish of the talk. The music overlape and fade out. Right now the music on A2 does not play unless there is sound, the speaker on A1, has sound. So I must of turned somthing wrong 'cause now it's the oppiset of ducking. What could I have done wrong? I must have activated something by accident. Any ideays? I think I'll just leave the A2 video off and publish the important part of the talk. Thanks for your videos. I'm subscribed.
Yeah? I've never used the iMovie one, but the settings in Resolve probably just need to be adjusted for better results. Or maybe use the side chain method instead of the ducker....🤔
@JasonYadlovski I think it's ultimately better using the side chain method, I was never really able to get the ducker to work the way I liked. The iMovie one does a good job of not coming back up whilst there is a pause in the dialogue, whereas I've found that, even when I crank the settings up with the Ducker in DaVinci, it still comes back up where the iMovie one would have left it low. But if there's really big pauses then iMovie does come back up.
Try clicking on the "Audio" tab on the left instead of selecting the audio! If you click / select the audio you see just the old menu with Equalizer, Volume etc. but by clicking on the grey area on the left you can see track level / ducker / music remixer etc
I find this tool absoltely useless unfortuantely. I never want the music to start dipping before someone talks, I want it to start the moment they talk then dip down, there is no setting for that unfortunately. it always dips before they talk
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Awesome explanation of ducking. Another feature I didn't know existed. The electrical engineer nerd here, the "rise" relates to "attenuation" of the music level rather than the volume level itself. The rise time for the reduction of of sound level. I agree to the average user, it seems backwards.
I was about to wrack my brain as I haven't touched Davinci in a few months and then the update took away my usual Ducking in the Fairlight tab and was freaking out. You saved my editing once again my guy!
Glad I could help! 😁
You are so helpful, honestly TYSM.
I have a few projects with some timelines set up for "old skool" ducking.
However, with v19 beta, those sidechains stopped working.
I didn't investigate any further, but they definitely changed something with sidechains.
I too am interested in how to do it the 'old skool' way in V19
I searched for a guide for this feature and realized it was added in the version I haven't upgraded to yet, so perfect timing. Downloading now.
Thanks man!!!!! I really appreciate you!
You got it, happy to help! Thanks for checking out the video!
great video, however now in one of the updates you can add extra tracks. click on the + icon on the right hand side of the source.
The cool thing about the new audio ducking feature compared to the old Fairlight setup is that you can now use the dynamic compressor separately from the ducker. That's a total game-changer-super handy and I’m loving it!
But... there's a tiny catch. The ducker only listens to the raw audio input. So, if you’ve got any noise in your recording-like breaths, keyboard clacks, or other random stuff you'd normally wipe out with an expander-it’ll still trigger the ducker.
True! It's a good tool for quick ducking. But we still have the option to do it manually with the new side chain.
Extremely needed tutorial! Jason, your teaching style is awesome!
Thanks man!
Wow, that is a really awesome addition to DR, I will be using this a lot! Thanks for demonstrating the effect, you rock!!
Do you have a video about isolating audio tracks for interviews? I have two mics in an interview, one for each person. I'd like to automatically switch between mics as each person talks. I'm now starting to study how it can be done in other programs, but maybe I could use this ducking feature?
Is the audio in 2 separate tracks or are both people in the same track?
@@JasonYadlovski I have the two people on two separate tracks. I used wireless mics attached to the shirts of each person. The mics don't have good sound isolation, so I'm hearing both people in each Mic, which causes a kind of echo. Audio bleed, I think it may be called. Anyway, if you are looking for something to make a video on, I would love to see how you would handle this.
I would probably start by trying to use an expander or gate to lower the volume automatically when the person is not talking to help prevent the bleed of the 2nd person coming through. I might make a video on this to help show it. 👍
@@JasonYadlovski Thanks so much. Yesterday, in Davinci Resolve Studio, I played around with many of the Gate, Voice Isolation, and Audio Crossfade options. I didn't have much success on my own. I'll keep trying.
Excellent as always! downloaded update this morning, went to duck like previous & was lost!- thanks for the great vids
Really nicely explained! Unfortunately I still I think the lack of finer tuning to this makes it kind of useless for me. I just can't get it to sound right in comparison to doing it manually.
I've been waiting for this video, thank you. I've been playing with this for a couple of days now, and went back to the old method, and they've changed it. I use two audio tracks, and unless I'm doing something wrong, It can only listen to one track at a time. In the dynamics compressor, there is no send button, only Sidechain ON, and the LISTEN tab gives you a choice of which track you want to listen to, but not multiple. Source is a choice, but what does that mean? Am I doing something wrong? What am I missing. Thank you.
Got it. Create SUBMIX. Submix becomes a source.
I always love your videos! So helpful!
Glad you like them!
Incredibly helpful. Thanks so much for this tutorial!
Glad it was helpful!
This will be great for some of my stuff. I know how to use the side chain compressor but I only have one narration track so this is a bit less work to get the same effect.
Haven't played around that much with this yet and not at my station for the moment b
ut anyway: It seemed when I quickly tried it out that you could just create a compound clip of all your different dialogue tracks, place it on a single track and let the ducking respond to that. At least in the recent official 19 release.
Guessing a bit but I think you can also send you tracks to a bus and duck in relation to the bus.
You could go the compound clip route, but If you have multiple audio tracks, I'd use the new sidechain instead. That way you can send audio to a bus, then use the bus. In the Ducker, you can't use a bus as the source currently. Here's how to use the new sidechain: th-cam.com/video/y2Vnp_XyRI4/w-d-xo.html
@@JasonYadlovski Thanks! I'll check it out. Keep up your excellent work on this channel! 🙂
Have you, or could you, do a video on recording and monitoring equipment?
You mention different types of mikes and headphones. I need the dumbed down version (what are the types and their strengths and weaknesses.
New to Davinci Resolve. Finally got tired of Premiere Pro crashing on my PC. Love your videos. Liked and subcribed!
Awesome, thank you! Welcome to the community! Lots of great help here on TH-cam for Resolve. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
The ducking feature is great, but still I am grateful that you sustain from using background music all over your videos, Jason, because I hate it when a person is speaking with music in the background. To me listening to a person and listening to music are two different separate things.🔇🎶
I agree totally! Music playing while someone is talking is hugely annoying. Maybe I am getting ADD or turning into a cranky old person, but lately I find myself clicking off tutorials due to the background music; interesting tutorials that I would otherwise watch to the very end and like. Music can add mood and feeling to an intro/outro or a documentary, but in a lecture/tutorial, it is simply distracting.
this helps me a lot! thanks dude!
Thanks for the great turorial! I guess you can solve the 2nd issue by creating new compound clip that have all the dialogs and then use the ducker for it if you want
You can use a compound clip, but I don't think that's the best away to do it. Certainly an option though....Mainly because your track level effects wouldn't carry though into the compound clip unless you open the compound clip in the timeline, then apply any track effects in there. But with all that work, I'd just use the side chain instead of the ducker. 😜
Excellent tip and instruction. thanks
Thanks for watching!
19.1 (released today) added multi track ducking now
Yes it did! I’ll have a video about it.
Nice tool and well explained as always.
Well seen to have written the definitions (I am French and it helps me a lot to understand, I have an average level in English…).
For my part, for this effect, I prefer to play on the voice and not touch the instrumental, have a track lyrics only + a track lyrics only with fairlight effect with low and high pass + the instrumental track.
But it is true that I have little dialogue (I make videos about my sports outings, hobbies).
So the must for me would be a ducker who goes further on customizing the diminished part.
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Hey Jason, re can't use multiple tracks as a source - apparently you can by using a bus... It's mentioned in the bew features PDF. Haven't tried it myself yet.
Hey! The new sidechain feature works with a Bus, I’ll have a video out on that soon, but the Ducker doesn’t seem to work with a bus. I tried it and it didn’t work for me. But I’ll take another look at it incase I missed something. 👍
@@JasonYadlovski so, page 80, it says:
To use the Ducker:
Choose the target track that you want to affect (the “destination” track), and open the Ducker.
Choose the Duck Source track or bus in the drop-down menu.
This is the sound source you want to use to duck the level of the target track.
If you use a bus, you can use multiple sources to trigger changes in your ducked target track.
Excellent first name BTW 😉 love your videos mate.
Thanks for the info. I know the manual says the bus can be a source for the new ducker, but as of Beta 1, a bus does not appear. At least not for me, I just tried it again. I'm about to download Beta 2, maybe it's fixed in there. 😜
Using a bus as you mentioned above will work for the new side chaining feature. I've played with that and it works good. 👍
@@JasonYadlovski Yep, my apologies, didn't realise you had read it/knew, so thought I'd mention it. I've just tried it on beta 2 and you're right, it isn't there. Hopefully fixed soon!
All good! Hopefully they get it fixed up soon. 😁👍
...you can patch a bus (with multiple voice tracks send to) to one track and use that as the source for the ducker. thats a work around to duck multiple tracks....
Right now, you can't use a bus to enable the ducker feature. Not sure why. But you can use a bus to auto duck using the sidechain in the dynamics panel. It works great over there. A few more steps, more control over everything and you can use a bus.
@@JasonYadlovski yes...but you can do the workaround like described above. Patch a bus to a track in fairlight and then that track can be used as the source. Sidechain is an option too...
Ducking awesome! Thanks for sharing. I think I’ll wait for the official release to update though.
You're welcome!
thank you Jason, so helpful video for me right now :x
I used to send audio tracks to a sidechain. Now, the manual tool to do this looks different. "NO MORE SEND BUTTON". However, there is an OK button, but I'm not sure how the new tool works. Will you please make a video to explain the change's new features in Fairlight?
You got it! I’ve already got a video on it, check it out here:
New SIDECHAIN in Davinci Resolve 19! Better and more Versatile!
th-cam.com/video/y2Vnp_XyRI4/w-d-xo.html
@@JasonYadlovski Brilliant, thanks
Great tutorial, Mr. Yadlovski. I recall from your previous tips, that we used to use the Compressor in order to do audio ducking. Is this an alternative or can it be used simultaneously?
Thank you in advance.
Thanks! I'd say you would use either the ducker OR the updated sidchain, but not both at the same time. I just put out a video about the sidechain and using the compressor because it's slightly different than it used to be, but can still accomplish the same thing. Here's the vid: th-cam.com/video/y2Vnp_XyRI4/w-d-xo.html
Roger that, sir. I will check both and see which one works best.
Hi, instead of the Fairlight page to use the ducker on multiple tracks witch speech - making a compound clip should solve that problem in seconds
You could do that if necessary. 👍 I'd probably keep the individual clips in their own track and use the updated side chain feature using a dialogue bus.
@@JasonYadlovski as a hobbyist I try to keep it simple - and adding music would be one of the last steps (I know, cutting to the beat is also an option, but that could also be done, before creating an compound clip)
The Compound clips can be put back to the originals, if needed, with a click anyway.
But I´m still at the beginning of the learning curve ;-)
Really great :)
Hey, awesome content on your channel!! If you ever contact at Blackmagic, ask them to let the Group feature allow grouping of two or more tracks that will respond to the Ducker. In my case, I have a 20 minute piece that with both dialogue and narration and it would be great to have the music respond to a grouping of them. I created the group but Ducker doesn't see it. Probably an easy fix for beta 4. You might also ask them to add keyframes wherever the audio was ducked so that we can go in and improve the ones that aren't good enough. Thanks again!!
I thought the the ducker was supposed to react to a bus - so instead of grouping, just send the tracks to a bus. But the option to use a bus as the source isn't there yet from what I see.
You will know much more than I about that. I'm pretty much a beginner to sound mixing. Hopefully BM will be able to at least allow the ducker to add keyframes. That would give an overall duck with the ability to manually change certain parts. As it is, I believe that every duck has to follow the same settings, correct?
Every duck will follow the same settings but you can just add keyframes right in the audio track to modify how the duck works. I’ve done that a bunch of times. 😜
Hmm.-. No Ducking in the inspector in DR 19 (stable). They must have moved it somewhere else, or omitted it from the final release of 19?
,... and of course, after reading another article I come back and see that you actually have to click on ythe blank space around the track title to reveal another inspector menu thatg has an overlap of the same options as the regular inspecor menu.. doesn't this scream bad UI? Anyway, thank you for the video :)
It's in there. I know a few people have been having trouble finding it.....
Hi Jason, is there a tool in davinci that allows you to automatically lower the music only in the frequencies used by the voice? Thank you and congratulations for the channel
Jason, Good helpful tips and sounds like keeping all dialog on one track could be most advantageous as well. Any date yet for the official release of version 19? Also, someone absconded with your TH-cam plaque! You're a good teacher and look forward to your next video.
Thanks! No date for DR 19 that I know of yet. The plaque is still there, just decided to change up the camera angle so I don’t have to move my monitor every time I want to film.
Wow that's really cool!
I always value your content!! I do personal audio reviews and its the actual audio in my editing I have the most issue with. How ironic, ha!
Haha, how about that! I’m always trying different plug-ins and things just to see how they work and sometimes I have that issue too. 😜
Thanks for this easy to understand demo. Nice and easier than the Compressor way.
Do the advanced settings affect the controls in the Compressor (Attack, Hold Release)? Or are they independent of each other?
Thanks a lot for this video:) I asked for something similar on the Blackmagic forum, actually I just wanted them to add a Lookahead(offset) function and extend the Atack time, but this is what I wanted for Sidechain. I don't know if I was partially heard. It would be nice for people to know who inspired the new feature, it would be encouraging. If I create a bus with multiple tracks in Faitlight, can I select in Ducker Bus instead of a track?
So far you can’t select a bus for the ducker, but in the literature, Blackmagic put out it says you can. I imagine in the official release you might be able to do that. You can select the bus with the new side chaining feature if you want to do it that way.
Nice explanations and tutorial Jason. good job.
Did you try putting the multiple tracks into a compound clip - seems to me that you could then add a track OFX and it would apply to the whole track - haven't tested it with the ducker, but I know I can add over effects to compound clips and it works like a bus.
Thanks Jim. I didn’t try making it a compound clip, but I did try it with a bus and it doesn’t work with a bus. I’ll have to give the compound clip idea a try.
Jason, your tutorials are amazing, thanks. With this one I have a problema I can't solve: when I click on the audio track, the Ducker function doesn't appear where you it will, it still has the old stuff (Volume, Pan, Dialogue Leveler, Pitch, Speed Change and Equalizer). How do I get it to show waht I see in your video? And yes, I'm running Davinci 19, I checked :)
Thanks! If you click a clip, it gives you those options, select the track by clicking by the S/M buttons.
@@JasonYadlovski I tried, but, like I said, the options that appear are still the old ones... and yes, it is Da Vinci Resolve 19, the free edition :)
thanks
You’re welcome!
Hello, first of all thank you for your work which I follow regularly.
I have a question : to lower the background music during the dialogues, no problem achieving this effect but big problem to make multiple interactions.
I want to affect a track with a dialogue track, and affect another track with the result of the 2 previous tracks, so I need to be able to select the "sends" for each track. So far impossible to do, do you have a solution?
Thanks.
Thanks for watching my vids! You're right you can't do what you want with the ducker, but you can with the new updated sidchain feature. I've got a video coming out about it at 9:45am EST today called - Advanced SIDE-CHAIN Feature In Davinci Resolve 19 - Beyond The New & Basic Ducker - I'll show you how to send multiple sources to a bus, then use the bus as the source to duck music. Hopefully this video will help you out.
Thank you for your brilliant videos.
I have this problem and I want to use the new Ducker, but I have multiple dialog tracks. Could I use a Bus with the ducker? I was hoping you were going to show how to do that. Maybe an idea for a future video?
Don't worry I figured it out with sidechains.
Excellent, Jason 🤘🙏😁
Thanks Gary!
Thanks!
Thanks for the tutorial! I have some trouble with the hold though. In my vlogs I sometimes don't talk for a short moment but I want my music to stay ducked. Those short spikes of background music sound pretty bad in my opinion. I am coming from lumafusion where the whole clip would be ducked instead of the app looking for speech. Is there anysetting where I can force DaVinci to duck the music even without speech? Thanks!
edit: Just found a solution someone on the blackmagic forums offered. If you add another track with any kind of white noise you can either keyframe toggle it on and off or just cut it according to where you want your ducking (this is what I just tried). Set this track as the source for ducking and mute the track. Appears to be a nice workaround and even gives me more control of when to start/stop the ducking by just adjusting the ends of my whitenoise clip. All the other settings like level, rise, etc. remain as you set them.
You can try increasing the hold time in the ducker so the track doesn't spike up on you. But the ducker only lets you 'hold' to 1 second. If that doesn't work, I'd use the side chain method. Using the side chain will allow a hold time of up to 4 seconds. I think this would be easier than using a second track, etc. Hope this helps!
@@JasonYadlovski Thanks! Yes, the full one second gave me those spikes. I'll have a look at the side chain method, maybe I like it even better. Have a great day!
I wish they had an option to set the threshold in the new Ducker. I have ambient audio in my b-roll that I want to come through under the full volume music, but it wants to duck even when the clip is set to -30db. Guess I'll have to move the audio to a different track...
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Thanks!
It seems like it lowers, and then dialogue starts. I always like to have it blend a little more. So when I duck my music, I make it sound more seemless and smooth. Is there a way to choose the point that it tries to duck at? For example it sounds like the "end point" is just before the dialogue actually starts. Can we set it so the end point is slightly after dialogue starts?
I'd try increasing the 'look ahead' and adjust the Rise as well. That might help.
How do we manually do it, like in v18 and before? I don't see the 'send' command in the compressor anymore. This is great, but I have longer pauses and want to force the hold to more than 1s.
Here’s a video on how to do it the manual way like before: New SIDECHAIN in Davinci Resolve 19! Better and more Versatile!
th-cam.com/video/y2Vnp_XyRI4/w-d-xo.html
I have Studio 18.6 and see Voice Isolation and Dialogue Leveler but Dialogue Seperator, Music Remixer and Ducker are not on the list. Am I missing something?
Yes, those new features are only in Resolve 19 Beta. 😜
@@JasonYadlovski darn. Thanks for the reply. I’ll use the old send/listen method.
thanks buddy this helped . new sub here
Welcome to the community! Thanks for the sub!
@JasonYadlovski, This is a Ducking great video! 😂🤣
😆👍😆
Its great but for some reason it still has these little peeks in between the audio that should fix itself even when you have turned everything up to the max. I wish they had it to where you could do it manually in some areas.
You could do it manually to, here’s a video on how to do it with the new sidechain setup: th-cam.com/video/y2Vnp_XyRI4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1yTjomqyipUEd9Uv
Hopefully they will add an option for the source to be a "Bus", then you can send all the dialog tracks to a dialog bus, then use that as the source.
Yeah, that would work. I tried it and it didn't work at this point. I did reach out to BMD and inquire about it.....just incase I was doing something wrong. 😜
can you apply the ducker to a bus? like if I have multipl edialogue and music tracks bussed to a dialogue and music bus can I apply the ducker on the music bus against the dialogue bus?
So far all my tests, you cannot apply to a bus. You would have to use the new side chain feature, which I’ll have a video out about in the next day or so with the new sidechain feature, you can use a Buss as the source.
@@JasonYadlovski fantastic thanks for the clarity on that!
This question has nothing to do with this video or audio. When you put your first clip on the timeline DR automatically creates a timeline called "Timeline 1". How can I rename THAT timeline?
Hey! 2 ways - just right click on the timeline in the media pool and choose 'rename' or if you have the timeline tabs showing just above the timeline itself, right click on the name there and choose 'rename'. 😁
@@JasonYadlovski I HATE IT when things do not work!!! I am running 18.6.5 BUILD 7 PAID version. I have one six minute clip in DR. I see, in the media pool the video clip then "Timeline 1" When I right click on "Timeline 1" I do not see "rename". I have 15 options the only two things that start with "R" is "Remove Timeline... and "Restore Timeline backup"
I do not understand what the "timeline tabs" are. I have Reset UI Layout and I still do not see any timeline tabs. I am very sorry to be such a problem.
Try to single clicking on the name of the timeline in the media pool, it should then highlight and allow you to change it
@@JasonYadlovski THAT DID IT!!!! Thank you SOOOOOOOO much for your time. Again THANKS!!!
I think regarding the multiple talking tracks….i would simply edit everything as normal but without the audio, then render that! And then use ducking on the rendered edited video making the multiple voices in one talk track! Takes a little longer but, it’d be worth it I guess……
What about when the "music" track isn't music?
For example, making a reaction/comentary video, where you have the dialogue from a movie or TV show, and you want that to duck out while you speak over it?
It will still work, whatever is on that track will react, it could be music or anything else.
@@JasonYadlovski I tried it. I happened to come across your video, just in the moment I was working on such a project. Doesn't really do it.
However, that might be due to recording issues. I'm going to try again.
Is it only available on studio version?
Should be in the free version too. At least the updates document from BMD didn't say it was studio only.....
@@JasonYadlovski ok thanks for the information ❤️❣️🙏
Strange thing. I've just decided to buy the Studio version of Da Vinci Resolve, paid for it, but the download options didn't include my Windows 64 bit laptop 🤔
Not sure I follow - you can just download Studio from the BMD website onto the laptop, should work....🤔
All done now. The download option Windows x86, I associated with bit 32 computers, but apparently it's good for 64 bit too. So it's my fault, I was just wary of downloading the wrong version. So now I have Studio, the fun can begin. Thanks, Jason.
How would you duck audio between 2 people talking? (here is the setup: each person has its own mic, but if person A talks the mic of person B records the voice of person A at a lower volume), since both mics recording if one peson speaks, there ar no clear gabts in the audio track. How can I lower the volume of track B if Person A speaks and lower track A if Person B speaks? Is this possible?
I would probably try and use a gate or an expander which will automatically lower the volume when the main person in that recording is not talking. I may try and make a video about this, I’ve gotten a few questions on it lately.
I guess this only works if your music and speaking tracks are separate? I have an old video track with both music and speaking on the same track. We're literally drowned out by the music.. any solution Jason?
Ideally, yes, they need to be in separate tracks. If you have Studio, you can check out this video and do the exact same thing that I show.
th-cam.com/video/qeKmspF0LVM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1zC0QOZ1dqKIvtgz
Thanks Jason you're a star. I will be buying the Studio version soon. 👍
Happy to help!
Very Strange, I have the latest version of Divinci Resolve and the "Ducker" tool does not appear under the audio tab of my inspector. Any suggestions? Thank you
That's strange, make sure the track is selected. It's in my version....🤔
yeah it’s very strange. The track is selected, I even tried the traditional way of ducking using a send, but the send seems to be inactive and I’m not able to use it. Very, very strange.
@@Dimitri8907 you’re probably selecting the actual audio instead of the track for the audio. Press where it says audio 1 or audio 2 and it should show up.
Just a thought, how about you create another track and duplicate the music but this time use the voice source 2. no, that won’t work. I’m being stupid, manually merge the audio to one track. Painful though.
Weird,doesn´t work for me i selected mic and also alternate but nothing at all,oh well.
Make sure you select the track by clicking in the header area - below the track name. Then turn on the ducker in the inspector, and choose the source track to react to. It should work for ya....
Seems that in fairlight page as well we can not select multiple source track any more ??? WTF ? Does someone knows how to do that now ?
Correct, if you want to use multiple tracks for ducking, here's how to do it in Resolve 19 using the new sidechain: th-cam.com/video/y2Vnp_XyRI4/w-d-xo.html
@@JasonYadlovski Oh yes, I eventually ended up finding the same solution (the bus technique) after shouting and cursing the Blackmagic team for making changes, when in fact, it's just so much more practical with the buses... the problem... it's just the changes really... ha ha ha
I have an issue though. The ducker gets the audio before any track level adjustments and effects.
Meaning you have to do effects and audio levels per clip and not the whole track.
Even the Mixer in the Edit page doesn't affect the ducker if you lower the whole voice track to see where the threshold is.
Example: If you have background noise you need to use the voice isolation on the clip... If you use the isolation on the voice track the ducker will skip it and remain ducked forever because it's picking up background noise even though the track has voice isolation on.
Is this solvable only by using Dynamics in the Fairlight page?
Yep, the Dynamics can listen to the Voice track with its effects but not the ducker. Could be a bug or neglegance.
Now I'm experimenting with something else and I can't figure how it could be done.
I want to work like nodes function.
Track1 has voice and interesting background noise.
Track2 has just music.
I want Track1 to play as is and Track2 to duck only to the voice, not the noise.
I tried sending Track1 to a Bus so that I can use any of the effects like Voice Isolation.. But there are no such effects for Busses, they only exist for Tracks.
A weird and difficult way would be to copy everything from Track1 to a Track3 with Voice Isolation and unpatch it from the main Bus so it can't be heard but Track2 can still react to the audio. If everything else is done and locked it can be done, but if there is any new change to Track1 I'd have to copy again the whole track over to 3.
How would you go about it? I have a feeling there is no other way. A nice way would just be to have Busses accept those few effects.
I running dr 19 beta. But can't see the ducker
Make sure the audio TRACK is selected first.... not just an audio clip.
At 1:15 on your video shows the docking thing but my 19.1 no "Ducker" is present. Is it in a newer version?
I edit a video of a talk once a week. V1 has the video. A1 has the audio that comes with the video. I add V2 for some intro music at the start and finish of the talk. The music overlape and fade out. Right now the music on A2 does not play unless there is sound, the speaker on A1, has sound. So I must of turned somthing wrong 'cause now it's the oppiset of ducking.
What could I have done wrong? I must have activated something by accident. Any ideays? I think I'll just leave the A2 video off and publish the important part of the talk. Thanks for your videos. I'm subscribed.
i found a workaround. I add A3 and dragged my two audios down into it. Sill have no idea what happened. Peace.
What's crazy is that no matter what I do, iMovie still does better automatic ducking! Which just doesn't seem believable does it?
Yeah? I've never used the iMovie one, but the settings in Resolve probably just need to be adjusted for better results. Or maybe use the side chain method instead of the ducker....🤔
@JasonYadlovski I think it's ultimately better using the side chain method, I was never really able to get the ducker to work the way I liked. The iMovie one does a good job of not coming back up whilst there is a pause in the dialogue, whereas I've found that, even when I crank the settings up with the Ducker in DaVinci, it still comes back up where the iMovie one would have left it low. But if there's really big pauses then iMovie does come back up.
i odnt know what is the problem with 19 version, sometimes this ducking works sometimes not
Maybe adjust the look ahead setting and the hold setting…
This is your 2nd video that hasn't worked for me. Ducker doesn't appear?
Are you sure you’re downloaded DaVinci resolve 19 beta? It should be there, if you don’t see it maybe try reinstalling resolve 19 beta again.
Try clicking on the "Audio" tab on the left instead of selecting the audio! If you click / select the audio you see just the old menu with Equalizer, Volume etc. but by clicking on the grey area on the left you can see track level / ducker / music remixer etc
I have DR Studio 19 beta and I don't see ducking when I select my file in the timeline. Any idea why?
Make sure you’re selecting the audio track before looking in the inspector
@@JasonYadlovski Just found the issue, you have to select the space to the left of the track (in my case "Audio 2), not the actual track itself
Correct, guess I should have specified, clicking that space is how you select the track. 👍
I am on free version 19 and don't see ducking - its just not there. Are you sure it should be in the free version???
I thought it was.....🤔
The Ducking didn't show up for me :(
i have 6 tracks that need to be heard by the ducker
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I find this tool absoltely useless unfortuantely. I never want the music to start dipping before someone talks, I want it to start the moment they talk then dip down, there is no setting for that unfortunately. it always dips before they talk
Did you try setting the look ahead to 0? I do like using the side chain better myself. More ability to have it do what I want.
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Thank you so much, very helpful!