@@BalkanManic Idk man, my mom loves MMA. But she's American. I think a lot of it is a cultural thing with older British women. That poshness, or whatever.
@@BalkanManic i wouldn't go as far to say women in general, but a lot of older people of both genders are definitely clueless and delusional. it honestly pisses me off how people act like just because someone is 50 years older than you that means they're smarter or know better on everything... this video proved that wrong on so many different levels.
@@LucidTG idk people in my family always get together for large boxing ufc events. I remember as a kid getting together with uncles aunts my mom to watch tarver vs Roy jones and the rematch lol. Idk if the ladies liked the violence so much or just the excitement from the rest of us.
my mom said some similar dumb shit and said "I like boxing more cause its more skillful" D-do you not realize they are actively using boxing in the matches we're watching?
@@B_bang22 I honestly think people just talk about things, even things they don’t understand, in an attempt to sound intelligent when in fact they just sound dumb
@@B_bang22 oh no man I didn’t mean to speak bad about your mom. I was just referring to people who make statements that have no idea what they’re talking about
@@chasevids14 oh no you good lol I didn't take it that way lol just saying that she can be very guilty of it at times lmao. That's just why I usually keep my mouth shut when something is out of my range
Didn't you hear her? She said she'd seen martial arts in films and tv shows, she's obviously an expert and knows what real martial arts looks like. Jackie Chan being the most realistic example of course.
@@drumusic5665 yeah but thats annoying people discoring new martial art and first things they say is that there is no skill involved, lol why ? dmb statement !
@@arslaniqbal5725 Which TH-camr beat an MMA legend? I guess MMA doesn't look fancy but if Mayweather fought mma rules he would get folded like a pretzel.
Guys relax, the old lady is a kung fu grandmaster of the Nth degree with a 1000-0 fight record. That’s why she sees no skill, she’s evolved her skills beyond our basic skill sets
Me starting the video: "Let's watch these Karen's judge MMA without knowing anything". Me after watching it: "I'm sorry I misjudged you Joan, you're amazing".
It was ignorant and so are you. These sports are male dominated because they are better at it. Simple. You are just encouraging wokeness for the sake of being PC.
Exactly. Stunning level of nonsense out of her mouth. I can stand ignorance that wants to learn but I can't stand ignorance that pintificates and thinks it already knows what's up.
The word "skill" is confusing here because it certainly does take a ton of skill to convincingly sell fight choreography, but its a very different skill than the type of skill it takes to be effective in the octagon. It actually takes multiple skills to be successful in the UFC.
@@brandonhickman3477Honestly making a fight read well on film takes skill but MMA is on a different level the skill they have is hard to explain because the best of them know so damn much
I thought she meant how they slow it down in movies. I mean yeah it’s choreographed and everything but to the inexperienced eye they can actually see what the fighter’s thinking/ looking for while fighting whereas in real time you already have to know what to look for while watching a fight and it’s too fast for them to see. Like if someone put on Olympic speed walking we’d all be like why don’t they just run like wtf is this because we don’t know what to pay attention to or what scores points from the judges or whatever. And yeah I’m gonna go copy and paste the same comment somewhere else because I like mma but I don’t think it’s fair to judge people who don’t know sh*t about mma for not knowing sh*t about mma and being asked to give their opinions on what they’re watching. Imagine if they just came in a stared at the screen quietly what would this video even be😂 Also they picked a lot of footage with violent finishes I think it might’ve been easier for them (people who don’t watch mma) to see the techniques in a fight that went to a decision. I thought it was supposed to be a cute video where we see what the sport looks like to outsiders and giggle about how they don’t know anything but maybe I missed the point…?
The blonde woman saying there is no skill in MMA and then saying “is there kicking in boxing? wrestling?” acting like those are superior sports. That shit pissed me the fuck off 😂😂😂😂
I agreed with her on everything but that. I think the reason people will remember Connor and also the reason he did so well in the ring was because of his arrogance. When he went into a ring he really believed he was untouchable and that confidence is why he was able to dominate but as you can see now he has changed his persona he is a lot less successful and a lot less relevant
The UFC is actually one of the few sports organizations that actively gives as much attention to the women's divisions as they do to the men's. Ronda Rousey was the highest paid fighter across the board for a while. People like Amanda Nunes, Cris Cyborg, Holly Holm, Rose Namajunes are all huge draws. They fight on the same cards as men, and everyone takes it just as seriously. You don't see that in many other sports.
That’s why I feel like the ufc could do more to get young girls into the sport which would get more young guys into the sport which would just overall grow the sport more
@@sothis1448 compared to other sports…also incorrect the ufc mixes women fights on every card and some are more exciting than the men fighting, but you’re just a casual
@@elit408 Some are more exciting true, like 1 out of 100 fights are. The vast majority are pathetic displays of mutual incompetence, feinting out of range, hugging it out in grappling exchanges. But yeah fan-boys will enjoy whatever the UFC regurgitates.
I thought she meant how they slow it down in movies. I mean yeah it’s choreographed and everything but to the inexperienced eye they can actually see what the fighter’s thinking/ looking for while fighting whereas in real time you already have to know what to look for while watching a fight and it’s too fast for them to see. Like if someone put on Olympic speed walking we’d all be like why don’t they just run like wtf is this because we don’t know what to pay attention to or what scores points from the judges or whatever. And yeah I’m gonna go copy and paste the same comment somewhere else because I like mma but I don’t think it’s fair to judge people who don’t know sh*t about mma for not knowing sh*t about mma and being asked to give their opinions on what they’re watching. Imagine if they just came in a stared at the screen quietly what would this video even be😂 Also they picked a lot of footage with violent finishes I think it might’ve been easier for them (people who don’t watch mma) to see the techniques in a fight that went to a decision. I thought it was supposed to be a cute video where we see what the sport looks like to outsiders and giggle about how they don’t know anything but maybe I missed the point…?
MMA for me was such an amazing journey as a fan. Striking background and slowly understanding what's happening on the ground has given me so much more appreciation. I rarely get surprised by crazy submissions because I can now understand the set ups and see what the artists are working towards. But every now and then someone surprises you with some unreal shit like a Suplex into mid-air armbar submission. Or a calve slicer, when I saw that first time I was like wtf. Or a twister. Or an Ezekiel choke. Or a gogoplata. Or first time u see an imonari roll. Or first time Kimura. It's like losing your virginity many many times. What an amazing sport.
it's a good skill to have to be able to kick a football, you can socialise, by kicking a ball around with other people, fighting isn't that special, honestly, everyone knows it.
It was totally ignorant and can be compared to people complaining about women's football wages. Ugh look at the disparity in skill. Under 15s can beat a national women's football team with ease. Wise up.
I watched the main card last night with my girlfriend's 70 y/o mom, she had a mixture of disgust and intrigue with the finishes by Neal and Hill. I think she liked it. She didn't say it out loud, but she didn't stop watching, and I didn't ask her flat out if she liked it, don't want to push things.
I watched a random fight card with my grandpa once. He was very off put by it. Making remarks like they’re just cock fighting like animals or dogs. Or that it was disgusting to watch them break bones and have bloody faces rubbing on each other. But boy he didn’t take his eyes off the screen for one second I can tell you that
@@itzjay116 that's awesome. I think most people like MMA, whether they know it or not or have been exposed to it. I would estimate somewhere around 70%, there are some people who either don't care about sports at all, or are just eeked out by all violence and don't want to see it. And there are also the old school boxing fans, you know, the "sweet science" guys, but a lot of them can be swayed too. But any grappling heavy fight will set that back, there can be 3 straight fights that are mostly striking and then one with a lot of wrestling, and they'll be like nah, don't like it. Which I don't quite understand, because a lot of boxing matches turn out to be stalemates where they're mostly proding and clinching, that's just as boring as a mostly wrestling MMA fight if you're not into it. But to each their own.
Joan reminded me so much of my late grandmother. I used to watch fight cards with her, She loved it, even if she didn't understand the ground game she fed off my energy as the fighter I was pulling for advanced position or went for a submission. I watched Ortega Volk with her and I was really pulling for T-City, and she fell madly in love with him, which I mean hey Brian Ortega is a good looking guy, so I get it. But she was screaming at the TV the entire time. I lost her late last year, but those memories of watching cards with her are stories I will tell my grandchildren.
She thinks martial arts is some Chinese monk jumping 10 feet in the air and spinning back kicking 20 people in 5 seconds like this is real life not a fictional movie
Protect Mrs Joan Smith at all costs! An educated and articulate woman, more open minded than most people I know half her age. Also at 7:50: fighting and going to war are totally different things, but you know, she teaches pilates, she knows better.
@@johnharris7756 youre absolutely right, but i do have a fun fact. interestingly enough, that is a fairly new phenomena. Skeletons found from the upper paleolithic era suggest that women did (more or less) the same tasks as men. Luxury has given us more clearly defined roles.
Day to day tasks are one thing but forming in masses to die for your family and culture is something men have done exclusively for thousands of years. MMA is a sport and I encourage woman to participate. But when society tries to downplay my first point I find it insulting and dishonorable to the male gender as a whole. A woman that respects and appreciates her man/men in general for willing to die and fight for his family and country is a beautiful thing and I find that feminine and sexy
Oh I remember when Meryl said that. Real rich coming from a woman who helped protect Harvey Weinstein. I'd say protecting him is more ugly and monstrous than anything that goes on inside a cage personally, but we're all knuckle-dragging troglodytes to the adult pretender so she probably wouldn't care.
@@sineadoconormcG She attacked us first. Talking like you can't love Picasso and DJ's Mighty Whiz Bar at the same time, acting like DJ isn't insanely talented. She didn't specifically call out DJ but separating MMA from art in a denigrating fashion is insulting. I love the arts and I love MMA, fuck Meryl for being so close-minded (also carrying water for Weinstein, like she didn't know what was going on).
Hilary is obsessed with whether or not there's skill involved... The irony is that MMA is quite possible the most skilful and varied sport that currently exists 😂 Joan is just a straight up legend!
Honestly its kinda hard to say what sport takes the most skill. I'd say that consistently hitting a baseball is one of the most difficult things to do in sports. Theres a reason that the best in the world only get a hit in 30% of their at bats. MMA is definitely up there. Like I said hard to compare though, no baseball player is winning an MMA bout and no fighter is getting a hit in the MLB.
all sports have their skills, but people dont see it in MMA, as they dont realise that the fighters are actually doing techniques. the "rolling on the ground" is something most people can't do, unless theyve trained.
Technically she is kinda right, only meatheads with iq of 70 like to watch that stuff tbh lol. And the funniest thing is that 90% of those guys cant fight for shit. Like if you think watching UFC/Boxing is manly you are wrong, getting yourself to training is manly.
Bro, I've been wrestling for like 4 years now and I also watch UFC & MMA and hearing this Karen saying there's no skill and she watches TV/Movies and says that's skill really annoys me.
5:25 Seeing more skill in martial arts movies than in MMA fights is normal. Movies don't have competition or resistance, it's just choreography, so you can make an actor look incredible at fighting. But it is the competition and resistance that dictates what is skillful and what isn't, else it's not fighting.
"I don't see any skills" *Me:* "oh no, what have you done. She chose to start her MMA journey on expert mode. MMA community she didn't mean spare them" "On TV I can see the skills" Nah screw it you're on your own now. You jumped into the lion's den by choice
Hilary can be assertive as she said about things in her own realm and comparing Womens Football to MMA is like comparing Fall Guys to GTA so its outrageous for her to be talking about skill level when if she went in with a woman MMA fighter her size she would be decapitated within 10 seconds
@@aleksanderb.5254 Old kinda excuses it for me. Harder to change opinions on something you've thought the same about for 60 years. Plus the guys talking about her getting decapitated lmao wtf chill
Joan was spot on about the referee. In muay thai you see them diving to the ground to stop a fighters head from bouncing on the mat but in MMA you have the likes of Herb Dean standing at the side counting sheep while a fighter gets 20 years taken off their life with ground and pound
@Ash-vg8px No, a ref is meant to step in when a fighter is unconscious, seriously injured (ie. A broken arm), not defending themselves or has tapped. It's ridiculous how many referees I've seen stand idly as a guy lies unconscious, taking 2-5 unnecessary shots simply because they're not paying enough attention to see the fighter is out. I pray you never officiate a fight
The rules of Muay Thai cannot be applied to MMA. MT doesn't allow ground fights where as MMA does. So a ref cannot interfere when one is falling. Yes there are some refs who should've stopped fights sooner and then there's refs who get complained by the fighter for stopping the fight too soon. Go figure.
it's hilarious how the skill mom doesn't think it looks real, because the only violence she has ever seen was choreographed for a hollywood movie. i love how she also just outright refuses to accept that people competing in a world championship are elite athletes who have spent thousands of hours of hard training in order to master several disciplines of martial arts just to get into that octagon, meanwhile she probably couldn't even run 2 miles in half an hour.
It's neat to see folks who may not have had prior knowledge or experience with the sport witness it for the first time. I wasn't very familiar with the UFC or MMA in general before my boyfriend walked me through the rules, forms and various techniques (with the help of FightFront and MMA on Point), and admittedly it was interesting to hear some of my early misconceptions echoed here (i.e. I remember thinking it seemed a bit chaotic and brutal at first, and I didn't understand how much thought and practice went into something like this primarily because I just didn't know what I was looking for.) Above all else though, I admired how quickly their opinions adapted and how often they asked questions. I hope at least a few of them keep watching, learning and maybe down the line become fans as well!! :)
My mum, who's in her 70's, watches all the UFC cards like I do and she's a huge fan. I often say that we are used to it, so we forget that there is still is huge percentage of the public that would think it was brutal. We're kind of desensitised. You can see by the reactions of men AND women that, if you're not used to it, it can be quite shocking. Don't be too hard on them, they mean well.
@@olivertwilson Haha. I know. Like I said, I suppose we don't realise what it looks like to other people. I was re-watching Nunes v Pena 2 and I was thinking that it would be really shocking for a lot of people to see women elbowing each other and blood pouring! To say there's no skill is just them being ignorant.
her saying she couldnt see the skill in the fight but she could see the skill in movies had me dead lmfao. this is a prime example why elderly people shouldnt be in office they are stuck in their ways
Just the elderly? You realize that the vast, overwhelming majority of the population has no formal martial training and are VERY influenced by fantasy and movies, right? This is a community of people who, at the very least, watch a lot of combat sports, and many who have trained. So at the very least, everyone has at least a slight idea what actual fighting looks like and what kind of skills it takes. The vast majority of people are just like that old woman, regardless of age. It's why people still think Medieval Knights somehow rode around in 300 pounds of metal while swinging 40 pound swords. Fantasy movies and video games feeding them a steady diet of the most ridiculous shit since their childhood, and they have no actual knowledge of the subject to counter these assumptions with.
“there’s not enough skill in it” mma is literally the most technical sport you can choose to do. it’s multiple martial arts all in one and you have to be aware your your whole body and your oppents
Joan, you are an absolute gem. I can't express how much you've warmed my heart; while mma may not be a sport you know very well you have shown that no matter how old you are, you should try to be as open-minded and understanding as possible. You definitely drink from the fountain of youth and I hope to age as well as you have!
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The “no skill” mom sure showed a high level of skill in contradictions
Shows how clueless and delusional women are especially older ones. "No skill" or "whats the point" smh
@@BalkanManic Idk man, my mom loves MMA. But she's American. I think a lot of it is a cultural thing with older British women. That poshness, or whatever.
@@BalkanManic i wouldn't go as far to say women in general, but a lot of older people of both genders are definitely clueless and delusional. it honestly pisses me off how people act like just because someone is 50 years older than you that means they're smarter or know better on everything... this video proved that wrong on so many different levels.
Because she has 0 understanding about mma yet she still has opinions...
@@LucidTG idk people in my family always get together for large boxing ufc events. I remember as a kid getting together with uncles aunts my mom to watch tarver vs Roy jones and the rematch lol. Idk if the ladies liked the violence so much or just the excitement from the rest of us.
Mom: There isn’t skill involved.
The MMA Community: And I took that personally.
my mom said some similar dumb shit and said "I like boxing more cause its more skillful" D-do you not realize they are actively using boxing in the matches we're watching?
@@B_bang22 I honestly think people just talk about things, even things they don’t understand, in an attempt to sound intelligent when in fact they just sound dumb
@@chasevids14 yeah I love my mom and know she's definitely not dumb but oh boy does she have her moments
@@B_bang22 oh no man I didn’t mean to speak bad about your mom. I was just referring to people who make statements that have no idea what they’re talking about
@@chasevids14 oh no you good lol I didn't take it that way lol just saying that she can be very guilty of it at times lmao. That's just why I usually keep my mouth shut when something is out of my range
She said the movies displayed more "skill" than the real fighting it's based on 🤦🏽♂️
what does she think martial arts is? does she only know about kung fu and TKD? how is she so oblivious
Genuinely wanted to shout at the screen for a second hahaha
Bro Naruto is the best Mixed Martial Artists. If he was in the same weight class as Khabib or JBJ it wouldn't be close
@@drumusic5665 bro naruto is crayons and paper
@@albinwallen634 lol the joke went over your head I guess homie
They train in 6 Olympic disciplines, it’s literally the most skilled sport there is.
🤣🤣
Ngl prod that made me giggle
Too real
its not
@@alicZd What would you think requires more skill.
"He kicked him in the head - you wouldn't see that in boxing, would you?"
Lmaoooo 😂😭
couldnt believe she said that shit
Pretty ignorant statement to call MMA fighters "not skilled".
They are ignorant that's why the video is interesting. If they were knowledgeable it wouldn't be worth a watch ya know
Didn't you hear her? She said she'd seen martial arts in films and tv shows, she's obviously an expert and knows what real martial arts looks like. Jackie Chan being the most realistic example of course.
@@drumusic5665 the rest were interesting but she was clearly just being cheeky because she looks down on the sport
@@drumusic5665 yeah but thats annoying people discoring new martial art and first things they say is that there is no skill involved, lol why ? dmb statement !
@@drumusic5665 That's not ignorance. That's just utter stupidity.
The no skill mom would be baffled if she took one jiu jitsu class and realized how much skill it actually takes
I'm starting BJJ in Summer so I can take her down to the Dojo if she's up for that
She recognized boxing takes skill but doesn't connect the dots that's what's really baffling lol
That’s just how ppl are man
@lemongrab9044 tbh she is right boxers have more skills remember how a youtuber beats MMA legend mayweather beats the best striker in MMA😅
@@arslaniqbal5725 Which TH-camr beat an MMA legend? I guess MMA doesn't look fancy but if Mayweather fought mma rules he would get folded like a pretzel.
Guys relax, the old lady is a kung fu grandmaster of the Nth degree with a 1000-0 fight record. That’s why she sees no skill, she’s evolved her skills beyond our basic skill sets
she’s just an amazing analyst, when she watches Bruce Lee movies she sees a real fighter, not some untrained loser like Fedor Emelianenko
@@lennaymaboyyy4848 when did you see emiliamko beat dozens of guys with nunchaks right? Real skill in those movies 🤣
@@lennaymaboyyy4848 she prolly think anyone with a belly couldn't possibly be an athlete
Ha ha ha
Hahhaha
Me starting the video: "Let's watch these Karen's judge MMA without knowing anything".
Me after watching it: "I'm sorry I misjudged you Joan, you're amazing".
Me after watching:"i like you joan, the rest yall can go suck Johny bones off"
Joan is goated but No Skill lady pisses me off
@@Thetruesurvivor21 facts
@@bridgerskaare 🗿
“no skill” probably the sport that requires the most skill to be the best💀
Michael chandler: *Delivers a literally picture perfect one punch knock out*
Karen: "I don't see much skill"
Shit made me giggle like a school girl lol
To be fair. In that specific scenario someone without any idea of fighting would just think he got a lucky shot or something.
“Watching the women’s football team I saw more skill.”
Me: “Bring in the Boys U15’s.”
Lmao, mediocre high school boys, the kryptonite of the world's best women's soccer players🤣
@@markzuckergecko621 they’re not exactly mediocre to be fair, literally the best youth team in the country
For real. I can't respect athletes who are bested by high schoolers.
@@charliefiore5371 It's still Children beating adults. That's bad.
Maybe show them that video too 😂😂🤡
Can we all agree that Joan is the best guest, her speech about equal opportunities was too wholesome
An mma fan in the making, pretty much everything she said was spot on
I'd bet she is a Tyson Fury fan
It was ignorant and so are you. These sports are male dominated because they are better at it. Simple. You are just encouraging wokeness for the sake of being PC.
I had to look for this, everyone else was terrible, but she was great.
@Mohamed the guy Cause if a girl wants to learn something she should be able to? Pretty simple stuff
"People won't remember the clowns" to the most famous mma fighter of all time
doesnt mean he will be remembered
still a good point tho, just a bad example of it i think
She was actually right but said it about the worst fighter she could’ve lol (didn’t help Dana made sure he’d be remembered tho)
@@Himmyjewettsaying the most well known fighter ever won’t be remembered is insane
@@Himmyjewettthe first double champ and the one who made the sport massive. He will always be remembered
They watched that smaller dude take out that tall guy and proceeded to say it takes no skill 🤦♀️
Exactly. Stunning level of nonsense out of her mouth. I can stand ignorance that wants to learn but I can't stand ignorance that pintificates and thinks it already knows what's up.
The smaller dude is Fedor Emelianenko, the greatest fighter of all times.
Ah yes, a choreographed fight in a movie shows more skill than a real fight.
The word "skill" is confusing here because it certainly does take a ton of skill to convincingly sell fight choreography, but its a very different skill than the type of skill it takes to be effective in the octagon. It actually takes multiple skills to be successful in the UFC.
@@brandonhickman3477Honestly making a fight read well on film takes skill but MMA is on a different level the skill they have is hard to explain because the best of them know so damn much
@@brandonhickman3477Yeah, but in this case, she’s trying to judge skill through a movie which is hard to do.
I thought she meant how they slow it down in movies. I mean yeah it’s choreographed and everything but to the inexperienced eye they can actually see what the fighter’s thinking/ looking for while fighting whereas in real time you already have to know what to look for while watching a fight and it’s too fast for them to see. Like if someone put on Olympic speed walking we’d all be like why don’t they just run like wtf is this because we don’t know what to pay attention to or what scores points from the judges or whatever. And yeah I’m gonna go copy and paste the same comment somewhere else because I like mma but I don’t think it’s fair to judge people who don’t know sh*t about mma for not knowing sh*t about mma and being asked to give their opinions on what they’re watching. Imagine if they just came in a stared at the screen quietly what would this video even be😂 Also they picked a lot of footage with violent finishes I think it might’ve been easier for them (people who don’t watch mma) to see the techniques in a fight that went to a decision. I thought it was supposed to be a cute video where we see what the sport looks like to outsiders and giggle about how they don’t know anything but maybe I missed the point…?
@@Ayden_Fields can’t lie I’m not gonna read all that
The blonde woman saying there is no skill in MMA and then saying “is there kicking in boxing? wrestling?” acting like those are superior sports. That shit pissed me the fuck off 😂😂😂😂
I really wanted the crewman to go "Kick-boxing?"
Nah for me it was when she said she could see the skill more in movies. Absolutely ridiculous haha
The dumbest thing she said was "the women's football team displayed more skill"
@@galacticironmike4516 lmao made me almost throw my phone like ofcpurse because its practiced and rehearsed
When she said there’s more skill in movies for martial arts
“Traditional martial arts” 💀
When she said "People will forget clowns, and they'll remember the sportsman" I felt that
I think she was saying clout
@@assconsumer she said clowns
That lady was the realest
Had respectful takes on it all
Esp letting the Women fight
Too bad she is a boomer with outdated ideals.
I agreed with her on everything but that. I think the reason people will remember Connor and also the reason he did so well in the ring was because of his arrogance. When he went into a ring he really believed he was untouchable and that confidence is why he was able to dominate but as you can see now he has changed his persona he is a lot less successful and a lot less relevant
"women soccer has more skill then mma"
These are the women thinking they can defend a knife attack after a friday afternoon seminar..
A professional Womans team got beaten by a team of high schoolers
"I can see the skill in films" JEEESSSUUUUSSSS
There is skill in films tho, the fights are not real, but to pull the moves off as a smooth choreography is not that easy either.
That skill mom is hilarious , my goodness. She has no idea .🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
The UFC is actually one of the few sports organizations that actively gives as much attention to the women's divisions as they do to the men's. Ronda Rousey was the highest paid fighter across the board for a while. People like Amanda Nunes, Cris Cyborg, Holly Holm, Rose Namajunes are all huge draws. They fight on the same cards as men, and everyone takes it just as seriously. You don't see that in many other sports.
Big facts.
That’s why I feel like the ufc could do more to get young girls into the sport which would get more young guys into the sport which would just overall grow the sport more
This is plainly false, the women's side of things is vastly less popular and skillful, also not taken as seriously.
@@sothis1448 compared to other sports…also incorrect the ufc mixes women fights on every card and some are more exciting than the men fighting, but you’re just a casual
@@elit408 Some are more exciting true, like 1 out of 100 fights are. The vast majority are pathetic displays of mutual incompetence, feinting out of range, hugging it out in grappling exchanges. But yeah fan-boys will enjoy whatever the UFC regurgitates.
"I don't see much skill. When I watch Martial Arts movies I can see the skill there". This old girl has much to learn.
Obviously doesn’t know the difference between choreography and real life
I thought she meant how they slow it down in movies. I mean yeah it’s choreographed and everything but to the inexperienced eye they can actually see what the fighter’s thinking/ looking for while fighting whereas in real time you already have to know what to look for while watching a fight and it’s too fast for them to see. Like if someone put on Olympic speed walking we’d all be like why don’t they just run like wtf is this because we don’t know what to pay attention to or what scores points from the judges or whatever. And yeah I’m gonna go copy and paste the same comment somewhere else because I like mma but I don’t think it’s fair to judge people who don’t know sh*t about mma for not knowing sh*t about mma and being asked to give their opinions on what they’re watching. Imagine if they just came in a stared at the screen quietly what would this video even be😂 Also they picked a lot of footage with violent finishes I think it might’ve been easier for them (people who don’t watch mma) to see the techniques in a fight that went to a decision. I thought it was supposed to be a cute video where we see what the sport looks like to outsiders and giggle about how they don’t know anything but maybe I missed the point…?
It's too late for her
MMA for me was such an amazing journey as a fan. Striking background and slowly understanding what's happening on the ground has given me so much more appreciation. I rarely get surprised by crazy submissions because I can now understand the set ups and see what the artists are working towards. But every now and then someone surprises you with some unreal shit like a Suplex into mid-air armbar submission. Or a calve slicer, when I saw that first time I was like wtf. Or a twister. Or an Ezekiel choke. Or a gogoplata. Or first time u see an imonari roll. Or first time Kimura. It's like losing your virginity many many times. What an amazing sport.
Yeah MMA truly changed the entire course of my life. I just got accepted to be a Muay Thai coach for my college because of it!
7:11 such a beautiful speech and then the funniest cut ive ever seen 🤣
I'm team Joan! She's awesome.
All my homies love Joan
Joan was a based grandma
Every women I've ever met named Joan, were sweet hearts! She carries that reputation!
She knows
Lovely woman, national treasure. One of the older women there and still less ignorant than her narrow minded, sexist counterparts
"What is the point?" Certainly can't be better than the point of kicking a ball into a net. The most important skill in the real world
Thinking that is the most important skill is what keeps people at the bottom
@@quantumblurrr No. It’s the opposite.😂🤦🏾♂️ Fighting is high level problems solving under pressure. It is the most important thing on the planet.
it's a good skill to have to be able to kick a football, you can socialise, by kicking a ball around with other people, fighting isn't that special, honestly, everyone knows it.
@@kpsiex everyone knows football too, they just ain't good at it
@@kpsiex yeah bro everybody totally knows how to fight, because swinging your arms around like a gorilla on cocaine is proper fighting
The mom's: This is unmatched.
Me: Right, it's prime Fador
🤣🤣🤣 i laughed too she didnt know
Fedor*
Right haha they didn't even know what happened when he caught the armbar
"He's big, he must be a heavyweight" there's a guy in my gym 6ft4 fights a bantamweight 🤣
@@jacknicholl2311 tbh thats quite hard to believe he must be literally a stick insect
“No skill”. What she means is “I have no clue what I’m talking about but I still want to give you my opinion”.
LMAO the transition from 7:25 is hilarious
"they look quite butch" killed me
Joan’s speech from 7:10 to 7:32 was so awesome and inspiring and then IMMEDIATELY Tanya’s response had me dying 😂😂😂
It was totally ignorant and can be compared to people complaining about women's football wages. Ugh look at the disparity in skill. Under 15s can beat a national women's football team with ease. Wise up.
Yea typical feminist nonsense, so inspiring.
@@sothis1448 comment section full of smooth brains
I was readong your comment as the speech was happening, making it so much more hilarious.
@@alionintights4074 smooth brain
I watched the main card last night with my girlfriend's 70 y/o mom, she had a mixture of disgust and intrigue with the finishes by Neal and Hill. I think she liked it. She didn't say it out loud, but she didn't stop watching, and I didn't ask her flat out if she liked it, don't want to push things.
Last night's card was PERFECT for casuals or the first time watcher. Super fan friendly every finish was definitive not much explaining to do
I watched a random fight card with my grandpa once. He was very off put by it. Making remarks like they’re just cock fighting like animals or dogs. Or that it was disgusting to watch them break bones and have bloody faces rubbing on each other. But boy he didn’t take his eyes off the screen for one second I can tell you that
@@itzjay116 that's awesome. I think most people like MMA, whether they know it or not or have been exposed to it. I would estimate somewhere around 70%, there are some people who either don't care about sports at all, or are just eeked out by all violence and don't want to see it. And there are also the old school boxing fans, you know, the "sweet science" guys, but a lot of them can be swayed too. But any grappling heavy fight will set that back, there can be 3 straight fights that are mostly striking and then one with a lot of wrestling, and they'll be like nah, don't like it. Which I don't quite understand, because a lot of boxing matches turn out to be stalemates where they're mostly proding and clinching, that's just as boring as a mostly wrestling MMA fight if you're not into it. But to each their own.
@@markzuckergecko621 I think it’s in our nature to be compelled to violence
She probably just liked the men then
Joan reminded me so much of my late grandmother. I used to watch fight cards with her, She loved it, even if she didn't understand the ground game she fed off my energy as the fighter I was pulling for advanced position or went for a submission. I watched Ortega Volk with her and I was really pulling for T-City, and she fell madly in love with him, which I mean hey Brian Ortega is a good looking guy, so I get it. But she was screaming at the TV the entire time. I lost her late last year, but those memories of watching cards with her are stories I will tell my grandchildren.
God rest her soul 🙏🏼
W grandma. W grandson.
as soon as I heard "no skill" and "no technique" I went straight to the comments
5:20 "It doesn't look real to me." I'd take a guess she's never seen a real fight or been near any sort of violence in her life. Very sheltered.
“When I see mixed martial arts on tv or on a film I can see the skill in that” 😂😂
I think she's living in another world LMAO
Fr her version of martial arts is karate kid 🤣
She thinks martial arts is some Chinese monk jumping 10 feet in the air and spinning back kicking 20 people in 5 seconds like this is real life not a fictional movie
Protect Mrs Joan Smith at all costs! An educated and articulate woman, more open minded than most people I know half her age.
Also at 7:50: fighting and going to war are totally different things, but you know, she teaches pilates, she knows better.
RIGHT!?! Not like females not going to war had anything to do with reproduction or anything
Women and men have had their own purposes for thousands of years. If someone doesn’t understand that then they probably never will.
She’s right about women mma tho
@@johnharris7756 youre absolutely right, but i do have a fun fact. interestingly enough, that is a fairly new phenomena. Skeletons found from the upper paleolithic era suggest that women did (more or less) the same tasks as men. Luxury has given us more clearly defined roles.
Day to day tasks are one thing but forming in masses to die for your family and culture is something men have done exclusively for thousands of years. MMA is a sport and I encourage woman to participate. But when society tries to downplay my first point I find it insulting and dishonorable to the male gender as a whole. A woman that respects and appreciates her man/men in general for willing to die and fight for his family and country is a beautiful thing and I find that feminine and sexy
"I suppose you would need to know more about it to enjoy it" also " this takes no skill"
Karen stands for: “bigoted middle aged or older white lady”
She really said I see no skill in this but when I watch martial arts on tv I can see skill in that
3:08 "One of them is enormous and other is Quite small"
Meanwhile Fedor being 6'0 and 230Lbs
fedor was a small heavyweight considering the monsters in his era
In her defence 6'0 isn't that tall
@@patrickhanlon2325 🤡
@@patrickhanlon2325 its also not "Quite small" by any standard
@@thesilentassassin1167 well no but I meant I can see why she'd make that mistake when he's stood next to a 7footer
The “no skill” mum and Meryl Streep should have a wine and discuss the “arts”
Oh I remember when Meryl said that. Real rich coming from a woman who helped protect Harvey Weinstein. I'd say protecting him is more ugly and monstrous than anything that goes on inside a cage personally, but we're all knuckle-dragging troglodytes to the adult pretender so she probably wouldn't care.
Leave Meryl out of this
@@sineadoconormcG She attacked us first. Talking like you can't love Picasso and DJ's Mighty Whiz Bar at the same time, acting like DJ isn't insanely talented.
She didn't specifically call out DJ but separating MMA from art in a denigrating fashion is insulting. I love the arts and I love MMA, fuck Meryl for being so close-minded (also carrying water for Weinstein, like she didn't know what was going on).
@@sineadoconormcG Let's actually not. Meryl Streep is "that kind of broad", they would really click. 😄🤣
Hilary is obsessed with whether or not there's skill involved... The irony is that MMA is quite possible the most skilful and varied sport that currently exists 😂 Joan is just a straight up legend!
Honestly its kinda hard to say what sport takes the most skill. I'd say that consistently hitting a baseball is one of the most difficult things to do in sports. Theres a reason that the best in the world only get a hit in 30% of their at bats. MMA is definitely up there. Like I said hard to compare though, no baseball player is winning an MMA bout and no fighter is getting a hit in the MLB.
@@SoupSultan difference between skill and ability
@@SoupSultan wrong
all sports have their skills, but people dont see it in MMA, as they dont realise that the fighters are actually doing techniques. the "rolling on the ground" is something most people can't do, unless theyve trained.
5:53 old lady seems to know what shes talking
Anybody getting offended, remember that one of these women genuinely asked “is there kicking in boxing?”
I think if Joan read into more of the sport and got into the details of it she would be an actual fan
If Joan was any of our nans, I think we could bring her round 🤣
I hope Joan see’s these comments. Keep being the awesome, and open minded person you are! I wish more people were like you.
She's lucky she's old
The skill mom is actually cracking me up. 🤣 Her kids got a new running inside joke LOL
That lady with glasses is the MVP of this series.
As a person that trains in boxing and has been in the ring I respect Joan but the mom that says that she can’t see any skill involved makes me so mad
Drink every time Hillary says there's not a lot of skill involved
Bong hit every time that other one says Pilates
@@CappyLarou She takes such pride in her pilates horseshit, doesn't she? 😄
Call me an ambulance please
Me in my way to job after doing so "heer me aut bawss"
Each time she said there was no skill in it I died a little inside
"I can't imagine anybody wanting to watch somebody get beaten up like that"
That one made me chuckle
Women not understanding men since the beginning of mankind. 😄
Technically she is kinda right, only meatheads with iq of 70 like to watch that stuff tbh lol. And the funniest thing is that 90% of those guys cant fight for shit. Like if you think watching UFC/Boxing is manly you are wrong, getting yourself to training is manly.
Seriously.. it cracks me up everytime she says the word “skill” 😂😂😂 this is hilarious!😂😂
Joan you’re the real MVP, never stop being a great person ❤️
I'd have a beer with Joan watching fights. She's a legend.
OMG, she's a Pilates teacher? I never would have guessed...LOL
she must be a nightmare
@@arantxaurrutia0 id still plow her ngl
I'm convinced, forget MMA give me women's soccer plzzzz
Swear I'm so fumed at her that I almost believed you
womens soccer team complains about pay too basically the same thing
Gimme
Women's football team vs Teenagers
Women's tennis 😏 or volleyball 😏
joan is actually a real one ngl, its the reason why khabib threw that irish boy out the park. diligence and sportsmanship
Her saying that there is no skill in some of the best knockouts in MMA history made me laugh out loud 🤣
The lady grinded my gears. I don't even gotta specify for you to know who I'm talking about
Mom: "So why does the ref step in?"
Mario Yamasaki: "Exactly."
She talks about them having "no skill", while the only "skill" she has is making wrong choices at the hairdresser's
nooooo💀💀💀💀
Damn.
Kinda looks like dobby the house elf with a massive wig
🔥 🔥 🔥
@@goldentoaster9302 Don't!! Giving her a wig will maje her free
Bro, I've been wrestling for like 4 years now and I also watch UFC & MMA and hearing this Karen saying there's no skill and she watches TV/Movies and says that's skill really annoys me.
6:49 When people realize women are part of it, they somehow feel the need to rewrite thier essays or take back what they said. Bloody double standards
Keep these videos coming, love these reactions lol, now please do "Little Kids react to most brutal MMA KOs"
I love the speech about promoting women's mma and then cuts immediately to "they look quite BUTCH"
5:25 Seeing more skill in martial arts movies than in MMA fights is normal.
Movies don't have competition or resistance, it's just choreography, so you can make an actor look incredible at fighting.
But it is the competition and resistance that dictates what is skillful and what isn't, else it's not fighting.
6:25 "kicked straight in the face with a foot." Truer words have never been spoken, miss 😭😭😭
"I'm not seeing any skills in it so far"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
"I don't see any skills"
*Me:* "oh no, what have you done. She chose to start her MMA journey on expert mode. MMA community she didn't mean spare them"
"On TV I can see the skills"
Nah screw it you're on your own now. You jumped into the lion's den by choice
Hilary can be assertive as she said about things in her own realm and comparing Womens Football to MMA is like comparing Fall Guys to GTA so its outrageous for her to be talking about skill level when if she went in with a woman MMA fighter her size she would be decapitated within 10 seconds
Shes an old lady bro chill lmao she just doesn't understand
@@Eeee-jh2gr Old doesn't excuse her stupidity. We all have opinions but we shouldn't pretend we know about something when we don't have a clue.
F-ing triggers me everytime she says skill
@@Eeee-jh2gr Shut up.
@@aleksanderb.5254 Old kinda excuses it for me. Harder to change opinions on something you've thought the same about for 60 years. Plus the guys talking about her getting decapitated lmao wtf chill
Joan was spot on about the referee. In muay thai you see them diving to the ground to stop a fighters head from bouncing on the mat but in MMA you have the likes of Herb Dean standing at the side counting sheep while a fighter gets 20 years taken off their life with ground and pound
Incorrect, the refs are taught to step in when the fighter is not defending themselves and they do stop the fights when that happens.
@Ash-vg8px No, a ref is meant to step in when a fighter is unconscious, seriously injured (ie. A broken arm), not defending themselves or has tapped.
It's ridiculous how many referees I've seen stand idly as a guy lies unconscious, taking 2-5 unnecessary shots simply because they're not paying enough attention to see the fighter is out.
I pray you never officiate a fight
The rules of Muay Thai cannot be applied to MMA. MT doesn't allow ground fights where as MMA does. So a ref cannot interfere when one is falling.
Yes there are some refs who should've stopped fights sooner and then there's refs who get complained by the fighter for stopping the fight too soon. Go figure.
hahaha the one lady being tickled by the up kick KO was so funny to me 😂
Hold tight Joan, far from a Karen, what a legend!
it's hilarious how the skill mom doesn't think it looks real, because the only violence she has ever seen was choreographed for a hollywood movie. i love how she also just outright refuses to accept that people competing in a world championship are elite athletes who have spent thousands of hours of hard training in order to master several disciplines of martial arts just to get into that octagon, meanwhile she probably couldn't even run 2 miles in half an hour.
It's neat to see folks who may not have had prior knowledge or experience with the sport witness it for the first time. I wasn't very familiar with the UFC or MMA in general before my boyfriend walked me through the rules, forms and various techniques (with the help of FightFront and MMA on Point), and admittedly it was interesting to hear some of my early misconceptions echoed here (i.e. I remember thinking it seemed a bit chaotic and brutal at first, and I didn't understand how much thought and practice went into something like this primarily because I just didn't know what I was looking for.) Above all else though, I admired how quickly their opinions adapted and how often they asked questions. I hope at least a few of them keep watching, learning and maybe down the line become fans as well!! :)
It is chaotic and brutal, your first impressions were not wrong.
"The face must be where you score ya points, not the body"
1:45 what a legend respects the sport
only person to state the fact that grnasma over here watches MMA it makes sense that she wouldnt like him tho
No way she said the women’s football was more skilful 💀
My mum, who's in her 70's, watches all the UFC cards like I do and she's a huge fan. I often say that we are used to it, so we forget that there is still is huge percentage of the public that would think it was brutal. We're kind of desensitised. You can see by the reactions of men AND women that, if you're not used to it, it can be quite shocking. Don't be too hard on them, they mean well.
Bro, i understabd where you coming from, i like all the karens their EXCEPT the one that said their is no skill, i took that personally
@@olivertwilson Haha. I know. Like I said, I suppose we don't realise what it looks like to other people. I was re-watching Nunes v Pena 2 and I was thinking that it would be really shocking for a lot of people to see women elbowing each other and blood pouring! To say there's no skill is just them being ignorant.
I’ve never heard a more jarring thing, than someone saying mma fighters have no skill lmao
1:29 absolutely the single most objectively insightful things ive ever heard about the concept of sportsmanship.. Bravo my lady bravo.
The women in the glasses is soo calm and collected
"Not seeing any skill"😂 would love to see how she does with some of their striking drills😂
Also hats off to Joan cuz she totally gets it
her saying she couldnt see the skill in the fight but she could see the skill in movies had me dead lmfao. this is a prime example why elderly people shouldnt be in office they are stuck in their ways
Just the elderly? You realize that the vast, overwhelming majority of the population has no formal martial training and are VERY influenced by fantasy and movies, right? This is a community of people who, at the very least, watch a lot of combat sports, and many who have trained. So at the very least, everyone has at least a slight idea what actual fighting looks like and what kind of skills it takes. The vast majority of people are just like that old woman, regardless of age.
It's why people still think Medieval Knights somehow rode around in 300 pounds of metal while swinging 40 pound swords. Fantasy movies and video games feeding them a steady diet of the most ridiculous shit since their childhood, and they have no actual knowledge of the subject to counter these assumptions with.
Get Joan a day time talk show
We all know the day time talk show would grab up the the "no skill" broad in a heartbeat. That's more their speed
“there’s not enough skill in it”
mma is literally the most technical sport you can choose to do. it’s multiple martial arts all in one and you have to be aware your your whole body and your oppents
0:05 oh shhhh...t! By only seeing this being I already know it's going to be one of those obnoxious Karen's...
will one of you please educate that woman who's making herself look so ignorant, "there's no skill"...please
Love how the teacher isn't open minded in fact bit rude towards the women
“Arrogance Will Get You Knocked out & Battered"
Well Said Mam 👌💯
lol his not arrogant lol his confident I respect her opinion I can say people saying his arrogant but it's confidence huge difference
Khabib and Porier entered the chat 💀
"more skill"
*expects to see movie martial arts*
LMFAOOO some people are just so confident in their ignorance
Imagine it being an Olympic sport where they hold a tournament to find out what country has the best fighter in each weight class
Joan, you are an absolute gem.
I can't express how much you've warmed my heart; while mma may not be a sport you know very well you have shown that no matter how old you are, you should try to be as open-minded and understanding as possible. You definitely drink from the fountain of youth and I hope to age as well as you have!
“I love my job. I whup people, for truck loads of cash. How could I hate this life? I love it so much, I am great full every single day.”
Conor McGregor
Joan is the real MVP
She said that mma didn’t take skill and then brought up women’s football as a better example💀💀💀
The lady w the short hair and glasses that spoken quietly, was awesome