You brought up plenty of good points and hypothetical situations actually. > Circumstantial chances of catching covid e.g being in the vicinity of someone who visited a KTV > Bringing secrets with you to the grave to save a marriage or telling the truth
Ignorance is NOT bliss when it comes to any kind of lying in a relationship. The point of a relationship is built on trust. If you can’t uphold it then you don’t deserve your partner. You would be completely disrespecting the person in the name of “love” which is selfish and cowardice.
"not in my experience" 💀 also please don't kid yourself - going to ion food court to have an innocent (and legal) meal is very different from going to an illegal lupsup ktv where everyone knows sleazy things happen. don't make false equivalences. this is not just a matter of catching covid. if your wife caught covid because she was getting handsy with a man that wasn't you, idk if you're going to be like "oh it's not as bad as going to ion" lol, especially if the same man was getting handsy with many, many other women.
Actually putting Pat in on the other table, creates that kind of mutual bond and wisdom. Plus both are already more open and acceptable to the kind of topics that most channels don't talk about, creates a better intellectual debates environment.
I think it is very important to be as transparent as possible to your partner. It is very important for building lifelong trust. If you have to ponder whether your partner is hiding something from you... that is not right. Admit and be responsible for your mistakes if you made one, don't hide them. In the first place, don't do something that would compromise the relationship, such as outright cheating.
Hypothetically speaking if I were to get cheated on by my partner, I would want to know because the path that led them towards making that decision would be a deal breaker for me Also more Pat please!
Guilt is going to eat at you and eventually affect the relationship if there are secrets. If the relationship is worth it, both parties should work at it together !
Yeah, a bunch of coping narcissists. Imagine being so self-centered that they can actually justify "I don't want to tell them because it would hurt them and that is selfish" like bruh cheating is a selfish act by itself lmao
Last my chio bu friend's hubby confess he went ktv and kena sms to go test. She so mad but say she cannot even kick him out of the house cos of the stupid stay home notice until the pcr test is negative. She left their house n go back to her parents house instead
John do be starting at pat all the time. Proud husband john~ I've mention in the official news listing, but the govt' should have just revealed those that were involved in the cluster(those that went). We shouldn't need to save their face because for what purpose? A few irresponsible owners and horny men doomed an entire nations year-long efforts to overcome this pandemic.Everybody cooperated and did their part to make our country covid-19 "free" and it's all destroyed by these people in a matter of one night. Anyway that lapsap KTV, it seems that the owners also allowed singing from leaked videos. Super irresponsible.
I mean Appreciate this perspective but there's another podcast who interviewed ppl directly affected by such (cheating) actions. It goes to say that it's not just a matter of "why would I tell my partner when I know it's going to damage the rs". Deed is done, damage is done. You're just piling on the emotional hurt if you still intend to hide it.
One of the most no value conversation. LOL 🤣 About affair and shit, it’s not about “want to know”. If it’s just flirting, holding hands, fine. The more serious one need to tell bah, because there’s a chance you could get STI. Selfish to think that others care about their relationship with you, more than their health. 🤨
Personally I don't want to be lied to, including white lie. I also don't like surprises even if its a good one. I also do my best not to lie. As for surprising my partner, i just don't hint or don't tell first. I also feel guilts very strongly so I couldn't lie even to my own brother. 😂😂😂 I'm just selfish to the point that I don't want to burden myself with negative emotion that will eat me day by day.
I agree totally, just because it's ktv, so they close all ktv... but when there's a case elsewhere why didn't they close it down permanently. E.g food court or cruises So contradicting in the guidelines and implementing rules.
why r u guys thinking from the cheater’s pov?? HAHA isnt the cheater a liar and thats not a good thing. So NO LIES OF COURSE and it’s just right that the cheater own up and not make the one who was cheated be like a dumb bitch who was cheated on without knowing. Like that’s just plain rudeeeee. Liddat for the good of the cheater u just make out w 5 diff girls and still treat ur wife like a fool without her knowing SO TAT she won’t get hurt ? No right. Lmao what’s the purpose of the relationship THEN?
I thought everyone differentiated it by calling the family ones like Teo Heng "sing k", I brought my wife to KTV before to attend one of our colleague's birthday party and shit was trashy
I think what John said is so fking true. That was my point also. Legality aside, Singaporeans take the moral high ground yet engage in activities like crowding along the jubilee bridge to see fireworks. They are so fking daft not to see the irony KEKw.
Hanging out in big grps -kena shn/quarrantine -create covid clusters -affect family -contribute to community spread Gg to lapsup ktv and engaging in lapsup stuff -kena shn/quarrantine -larger covid spread (one hostess up to 10 customers a day and they alternate in diff ktvs) -contribute to community spread -break relationships and families -cause hawker stalls to close down (toapayoh case) -cause another cluster--jurong fishing port Jurong fishing port -closing of fishing port -cause even more hawker stalls to close down -cause food waste (hawkers hv to throw their ingredients/fish for hygiene purposes) -cause prices of fish to go up -affect hawkers financially Yea hanging out in large grp and not adhering to social distancing measures is bad. But can it even be compared to those ktvs??
I think most people think other people's sins or vices are the worse thing ever and aren't ever objective or rational in their decision making process. This discussion was a great discussion where differing thoughts and opinions are allowed for discourse without putting down the other person and their opinions
lol will be honest, i think majority portion of this discussion went off topic. i think there should be a basis and boundary set behind the discussion.
Your love do not necessarily can change a person and if one chooses to be blind by love. People in general are attracted to narcissist and dark trait personalities. They are deem to be more attractive, desirable and fun to be with. If you choose to ignore the red flags of a toxic relationship.
Noooo. He will ask u every single time after each sex session if he is better than your ex already!!!! Only after u finally say he is better then he feel better n stop asking. 😂
How much respect do you really have for your partner if you can admit your wrong doings? You guys said you want to know if your partner cheated but wont do the same vice versa.. kinda trash
well, the points made until the 8th minute mark all makes sense academically.... but in all honesty, i have never been offered a tonsil check/blowjob/backroom romp by the waitresses/hostesses at a coffeeshop, brasserie, bistro, restaurant etc, before, during or even after dinner. True story..... another burning question i have is how did these infamous monkey business establishments get their licenses changed to F&B outlets? something stinks here...
If it were me, I would feint an illness and go to the doctors to get tested. No need to mention anything about KTV to my wife hahaha - My partner told me this
Hey Jessie, thanks for asking! Based on IMDA guidelines, content productions are to have no more than 10 onscreen talents who may be unmasked. But rest assured that everyone in the crew behind the camera are masked up and socially distanced :)
Patrina is so cool!! I think adding her to the Daily Ketchup would be awesome!!
Petition for Pat to be a permanent cast
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You brought up plenty of good points and hypothetical situations actually.
> Circumstantial chances of catching covid e.g being in the vicinity of someone who visited a KTV
> Bringing secrets with you to the grave to save a marriage or telling the truth
Ignorance is NOT bliss when it comes to any kind of lying in a relationship. The point of a relationship is built on trust. If you can’t uphold it then you don’t deserve your partner. You would be completely disrespecting the person in the name of “love” which is selfish and cowardice.
Denise damn funny.
"If my partner got a growth mindset." 😂
Truth and trust are two of the biggest pillars of a successful relationship.
Really liked this episode! Everyone's thinking out aloud, no filters. Just exchanging of hypothetical scenarios and solutions.
Haha pat’s personality is so cute. Really liked her on this episode
"not in my experience" 💀 also please don't kid yourself - going to ion food court to have an innocent (and legal) meal is very different from going to an illegal lupsup ktv where everyone knows sleazy things happen. don't make false equivalences. this is not just a matter of catching covid. if your wife caught covid because she was getting handsy with a man that wasn't you, idk if you're going to be like "oh it's not as bad as going to ion" lol, especially if the same man was getting handsy with many, many other women.
Awww pat is so pretty and cool. Didnt recognise her at first hahaha. Thought another influencer guest on this episode. 🤣
Patrina so innocent n convinced by his statement on having meal with hostess around. Haiz.
Actually putting Pat in on the other table, creates that kind of mutual bond and wisdom. Plus both are already more open and acceptable to the kind of topics that most channels don't talk about, creates a better intellectual debates environment.
I think it is very important to be as transparent as possible to your partner. It is very important for building lifelong trust. If you have to ponder whether your partner is hiding something from you... that is not right. Admit and be responsible for your mistakes if you made one, don't hide them. In the first place, don't do something that would compromise the relationship, such as outright cheating.
hope to see more of pat in the episodes! the dynamics are so good
I can see now why John fell in love with Pat. Pat is such a lovable person really
It's like a room of toxicity and twisted values and Pat is the lamb sent to the slaughter.
Hypothetically speaking if I were to get cheated on by my partner, I would want to know because the path that led them towards making that decision would be a deal breaker for me
Also more Pat please!
Wow the self-justification on that cheating part is ridiculous. You cheat, then own up.
lmfao - 'does my partner have a growth mindset, or not?'
11:00 - IMHO, in the first place, we shouldn't cheat so there wouldn't be any justification to hide/ not hide the situation right, no?
Guilt is going to eat at you and eventually affect the relationship if there are secrets. If the relationship is worth it, both parties should work at it together !
John still using his black matte starbucks cup!
Wow so Pat is just sitting in a room with people who believe cheating on their partners & not telling is the right thing to do
Yeah, a bunch of coping narcissists. Imagine being so self-centered that they can actually justify "I don't want to tell them because it would hurt them and that is selfish" like bruh cheating is a selfish act by itself lmao
greater good i guess
Last my chio bu friend's hubby confess he went ktv and kena sms to go test.
She so mad but say she cannot even kick him out of the house cos of the stupid stay home notice until the pcr test is negative. She left their house n go back to her parents house instead
6:05 HAHAHHAHA OMG FRIKING HILARIOUS LA
People can be outraged and furious but they can't stop such vice from taking place. It's part of society.
HAHAHAHAHA PAT DAMN FUNNY “or are you?”
I looooove Pat ehhhh~ she’s so entertaining & damn cuteeee!
Denise, super intelligent !
John do be starting at pat all the time. Proud husband john~
I've mention in the official news listing, but the govt' should have just revealed those that were involved in the cluster(those that went). We shouldn't need to save their face because for what purpose? A few irresponsible owners and horny men doomed an entire nations year-long efforts to overcome this pandemic.Everybody cooperated and did their part to make our country covid-19 "free" and it's all destroyed by these people in a matter of one night.
Anyway that lapsap KTV, it seems that the owners also allowed singing from leaked videos. Super irresponsible.
I love Pat!!!
I mean
Appreciate this perspective but there's another podcast who interviewed ppl directly affected by such (cheating) actions. It goes to say that it's not just a matter of "why would I tell my partner when I know it's going to damage the rs". Deed is done, damage is done. You're just piling on the emotional hurt if you still intend to hide it.
When your partner say they don’t want know …!? that mean they really want to know.. just go for your luck… 🤣🤣🤣
Haha my mum lie is totally opposite.... She buy something $300 she will tell dad $500 then say not enough money liao 😜
More Pat! More Pat! More Pat! 🤩🤩🤩
One of the most no value conversation. LOL 🤣
About affair and shit, it’s not about “want to know”. If it’s just flirting, holding hands, fine. The more serious one need to tell bah, because there’s a chance you could get STI. Selfish to think that others care about their relationship with you, more than their health. 🤨
More Pat Please!!! PAT V John
Nobody goes to KFC with the intention of not eating chicken.
Personally I don't want to be lied to, including white lie. I also don't like surprises even if its a good one. I also do my best not to lie. As for surprising my partner, i just don't hint or don't tell first. I also feel guilts very strongly so I couldn't lie even to my own brother. 😂😂😂 I'm just selfish to the point that I don't want to burden myself with negative emotion that will eat me day by day.
Maybe got hidden camera in hotel so u think no one else besides both of u know..... Then the video leak 😂
More pat, tks 😊
[Joking only]
7:04 and that kids, is why snitches get stitches
The UK show "State of the Union" explores this topics soooooo well.... would recommend you all to watch if you have not.
Have been waiting for this episode
before they talk, the guy with black cap is not really attractive. after they chatted, he suddenly become the most attractive sia.
idk how to feel about this comment. LOL
waah u have such a pretty wife ah!!!
This is like when Arnold told his wife about the other son he had after he retired from politics
I agree totally, just because it's ktv, so they close all ktv... but when there's a case elsewhere why didn't they close it down permanently.
E.g food court or cruises
So contradicting in the guidelines and implementing rules.
Pat should be on permanently🖖🏻
why r u guys thinking from the cheater’s pov?? HAHA isnt the cheater a liar and thats not a good thing. So NO LIES OF COURSE and it’s just right that the cheater own up and not make the one who was cheated be like a dumb bitch who was cheated on without knowing. Like that’s just plain rudeeeee. Liddat for the good of the cheater u just make out w 5 diff girls and still treat ur wife like a fool without her knowing SO TAT she won’t get hurt ? No right. Lmao what’s the purpose of the relationship THEN?
such interesting perspectives!
I thought everyone differentiated it by calling the family ones like Teo Heng "sing k", I brought my wife to KTV before to attend one of our colleague's birthday party and shit was trashy
I enjoy the podcasts but I don't have time to watch all of it most of the time. It'd be nice to have short clip of highlights
remember when that was the worst thing to happen at KTV
I think what John said is so fking true. That was my point also. Legality aside, Singaporeans take the moral high ground yet engage in activities like crowding along the jubilee bridge to see fireworks.
They are so fking daft not to see the irony KEKw.
Hanging out in big grps
-kena shn/quarrantine
-create covid clusters
-affect family
-contribute to community spread
Gg to lapsup ktv and engaging in lapsup stuff
-kena shn/quarrantine
-larger covid spread (one hostess up to 10 customers a day and they alternate in diff ktvs)
-contribute to community spread
-break relationships and families
-cause hawker stalls to close down (toapayoh case)
-cause another cluster--jurong fishing port
Jurong fishing port
-closing of fishing port
-cause even more hawker stalls to close down
-cause food waste (hawkers hv to throw their ingredients/fish for hygiene purposes)
-cause prices of fish to go up
-affect hawkers financially
Yea hanging out in large grp and not adhering to social distancing measures is bad. But can it even be compared to those ktvs??
I don’t believe in lies in a relationship! I’m the kinda person who wants to be open with my partner
I think most people think other people's sins or vices are the worse thing ever and aren't ever objective or rational in their decision making process. This discussion was a great discussion where differing thoughts and opinions are allowed for discourse without putting down the other person and their opinions
Love this episode :)
I would say to him let go for a walk than will sit down give him a piece of my mind than ask him to reflect on what he did
Wow.. this is very nice content
we need to see pat's dress
lol will be honest, i think majority portion of this discussion went off topic. i think there should be a basis and boundary set behind the discussion.
The cover up game is strong.
Pray to God
Oo. i see a razer blade :)
Your love do not necessarily can change a person and if one chooses to be blind by love. People in general are attracted to narcissist and dark trait personalities. They are deem to be more attractive, desirable and fun to be with. If you choose to ignore the red flags of a toxic relationship.
Noooo. He will ask u every single time after each sex session if he is better than your ex already!!!!
Only after u finally say he is better then he feel better n stop asking. 😂
How to survive in a marriage 21:44
Men go ktv.. the only answer, lust, the urge, uncontrollable..
First of all, Jon Paul is such a daddy. Fight me. Second of all, definitely want Pat to be a permanent cast!
eh the background music very irritating
How much respect do you really have for your partner if you can admit your wrong doings? You guys said you want to know if your partner cheated but wont do the same vice versa.. kinda trash
yes trash totally agree
well, the points made until the 8th minute mark all makes sense academically.... but in all honesty, i have never been offered a tonsil check/blowjob/backroom romp by the waitresses/hostesses at a coffeeshop, brasserie, bistro, restaurant etc, before, during or even after dinner. True story..... another burning question i have is how did these infamous monkey business establishments get their licenses changed to F&B outlets? something stinks here...
Will there be a judgement day??
If it were me, I would feint an illness and go to the doctors to get tested. No need to mention anything about KTV to my wife hahaha - My partner told me this
Huge number of married sg men go to ktv or this disco lol
Pity the women here
How come you guys don’t wear mask ?
Hey Jessie, thanks for asking! Based on IMDA guidelines, content productions are to have no more than 10 onscreen talents who may be unmasked. But rest assured that everyone in the crew behind the camera are masked up and socially distanced :)
Bo jio 😂
god know lo
TCSS....
Take it to the grave lah. SIAO.
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Wow, Singlish is disgusting.
first!
Replace Denise with pat