I love the JLU adaptation. The exchange is great. "Don't tell me you got him a gift card." "No... Cash." "Bruce!" "What do you get for the man who has everything!?"
Salan Moore is nice, but would prefer to see the return of Sal Morrison. Maybe some Animal Man or Doom Patrol? Or, if they want to make everyone cry, We3?
It’s outside their wheelhouse, but I’d love to see them try to do the Invisibles. Because having read the omnibus cover to cover, I couldn’t begin to explain it to someone.
I love in the JLU episode how they made the wife basically still Lois. Saying that he truly does love her. That his perfect world is Krypton is still alive, but also with Lois.
I don't know if anybody agrees, but in the end of this comic I realized that actually Mongul gave Superman that best present he could ever get. Well, what do you give to a man that has everything? It can not be just a regular present... Mongul ended up giving Superman an experience that he'd never have. Thanks to Mongul, Superman was able to see how his life in Krypton would've been like. I maybe tripin' but it is the way I see it. Alan Moore is brilliant!
Leonardo Bauer In a way it's the worst possible thing to do to him. the whole reason Superman goes bad is cause the dream was real, but still taken away.
Grievousish of course it made him suffer, but that's not the point. Good or bad, it was the only way to see what his life in Krypton would be like. He was able to experience the things he wondered about his whole life. He's got the all answers.
Leonardo Bauer True, but I think Superman would have been better off not knowing. Sure he got all the answers, but now he knows what he'll never have. People spend their whole lives wondering over what if? scenarios and while probably a good portion would say yes to being shown what could have been, myself at least i'd prefer to never know.
Grievousish so this is all about perspective. Had I had the chance, I'd like to have all the answers. And by our discussion we can see how Alan Moore can make a simple superhero birthday become a philosophical story. It's just amazing!
I'm shocked the broader DC universe doesn't have a serious Black Mercy illicit drug trade problem. Also, I have to give Allan Moore a lot of credit for giving Super Man the very 21st century experience of having your older male family members sucked into a grotesque political cult and becoming estranged to them.
I'm sure that's a creative way to get out of a relationship: "Honey, I'll always love you... but I don't think you're real." And then you just walk away without another word. Bought trade count since I started watching Back Issues: 49
This is probably my favorite back issues you guys have made! I feel like it was just a couple of weeks ago that you guys were at 30k but now you are over 40,000. your growth is amazing and i think you guys deserve it! Keep up the awesome content!
The return of Alan Moore! Since Tiffany is slowly turning into Doctor Strange with every gift she receives, can we get a green lantern hat for Ben and make him Geoff Johns?
Isn't a more sympathetic interpretation of the flower thing just that Supes has accepted that he'll never see the real Krypton and should stop living in the past. That seems more what Moore's getting at to me.
As a kid growing up when teen Titans and justice league/JLU were coming out I can honestly say it was one of my favorite episodes😂 The black mercy is such a cool concept and the dialogue during the fight is brilliant which in modern times is usually groan worthy
Great episode guys! I love how Alan Moore makes a dark and serious story keeping the fun heroic stuff of superhero comics. He's definetly a great writer, especially in his erliear years, unfortunately along the road he went nuts but I'll always be grateful to him for maaking V for vendetta because I just think that's perfect, much like this story. I would have wanted to see Jason's and Diana's heart desires but I understand why superman and batman have to get the black mercy on them.
I remember when this was done in the superman animated tv series. I might pick this up given that was one of my favourite episodes. Thanks for putting me on this. Ps. Ethan laughter and Alan Moore? Fucking win Edit: I guess I should have watched the full video before posting this comment
Now I have to watch this Justice League episode again, if only for the Batman jokes and to hear Kevin Conroy's delivery. Amazing. Thanks guys. As always..
Actually there is another great story with Mongul after this and before Reing of the Supermen, is called "Exile" a pretty cool storyline when Superman end figthing in a space coliseum arena.
My second favorite Superman story, it's so good. JLU adaptation is incredible but I prefer comic book, especially it's depiction of Kyrpton is perfect. And it contains Jason Todd's most badass moment. I never like him as an antihero, he had potential as Robin but never used well. After this story Black Mercy used several times. Ones for Hal Jordan and other time for Green Lantern Corp. members and this version is different it doesn't give person's heart desire, it gives person's worst nightmare.
If this hardcover is like the paperback of Moore stories I have, then it's got a Swamp Thing story after all: "The Jungle Line" from DC Comics Presents. Which is awesome, but always overlooked.
I love the original comic book story EXCEPT: I don't know why Clark would dream of Krypton. He has no memories of that place. If he should dream of, "Home", it should be of Smallville, where he grew up.
Pre-Crisis Superman identified with his Kryptonian heritage more, while post-Crisis Superman was all about his Kansas upbringing. The current Superman is a balance of the two.
I have not read this story yet, but oddly sounds like the greatest Superman story ever. I'm finding the hardcover immediately! That said, why do I feel bad that one of DC's most incredible writers in history is a passive British wizard who could care less about his contributions to their pantheon??
Overusing the Black Mercies and kind of missing the point with the Yellow Mercies (or whatever the fear ones were called, instead of being a trap people don't want to escape from they are ones they do) were a bit annoying but everything else, with him fighting GLs, Daxam then Sinestro was all great
Strangeguy0451 I want Mongul to come back and see that Warworld is destroyed and he goes to hunt the GL Corps and the Sinestro Corps in search of revenge.
holy hell, i just found the superman vs mongrel clip from the Justice League Unlimited adaptation and that was freakin' epic lordy be, and I only saw a four minute ending clip. gotta check out that JLU series
anyone ever want Sal to team up with EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORY and make a Alan Moore vs Grant Morrison video ? Sal as Moore and maybe Max Landis as Morrison?
i really enjoyed this episode. Mongul is one of my favorite villains, super smart super strong and super asshole is my favorite combination :) loved his portrait in young justice. love you guys
props to Ethan for working so hard to make Sal break character
I love the JLU adaptation. The exchange is great.
"Don't tell me you got him a gift card."
"No... Cash."
"Bruce!"
"What do you get for the man who has everything!?"
Chris Check BURN
Wouldn't a gift card worth the amount of cash he wanted to give be simpler? It's easier to transport while flying.
I never realized how faithful that episode was
It's the first time Alan Moore didn't hate an adaptation. But I don't think he said anything great about it. I think he just said it was fine.
@@marvelanddcretrospectivea response like that from Alan Moore is the highest praise u could hear.
Alan Moore: Do you understand what you did to me?
Comic book industry: I gave you oblivion.
“Don’t forget, this is superheroes, where stupid assholes dress like lunatics!”
That line had me in stitches.
Hurr hurr hurr hurr hurr
"Batman's an anarchist who doesn't know what the fuck he's doing."
-(S)Alan Moore 2016
Anarchist ?
Salan Moore is nice, but would prefer to see the return of Sal Morrison. Maybe some Animal Man or Doom Patrol? Or, if they want to make everyone cry, We3?
Currently read Animal Man's first Morrison omnibus and I'd have to say, it would make a wonderful cartoon. who do you think would play Buddy & Ellen?
I raise you… Grant Mortisal
It’s outside their wheelhouse, but I’d love to see them try to do the Invisibles. Because having read the omnibus cover to cover, I couldn’t begin to explain it to someone.
Back to reality
oops there goes gravity
my cape flaps flappily
whilst I rap crapily
JTZ Lol
Other rappers diss me
Say my rhymes are sissy
"whilst"🤣🤣🤣
I love in the JLU episode how they made the wife basically still Lois. Saying that he truly does love her. That his perfect world is Krypton is still alive, but also with Lois.
Technically it’s Lois and lana combined
This has to be my favorite episode of Back Issues to date. Now back to reality...
Tony Stark Same *XD*
Tony Stark how did you get pass the source wall, Stark?
how’s being dead?
I don't know if anybody agrees, but in the end of this comic I realized that actually Mongul gave Superman that best present he could ever get. Well, what do you give to a man that has everything? It can not be just a regular present...
Mongul ended up giving Superman an experience that he'd never have. Thanks to Mongul, Superman was able to see how his life in Krypton would've been like.
I maybe tripin' but it is the way I see it. Alan Moore is brilliant!
Leonardo Bauer In a way it's the worst possible thing to do to him. the whole reason Superman goes bad is cause the dream was real, but still taken away.
Grievousish of course it made him suffer, but that's not the point. Good or bad, it was the only way to see what his life in Krypton would be like. He was able to experience the things he wondered about his whole life. He's got the all answers.
Leonardo Bauer
True, but I think Superman would have been better off not knowing. Sure he got all the answers, but now he knows what he'll never have. People spend their whole lives wondering over what if? scenarios and while probably a good portion would say yes to being shown what could have been, myself at least i'd prefer to never know.
Grievousish so this is all about perspective. Had I had the chance, I'd like to have all the answers. And by our discussion we can see how Alan Moore can make a simple superhero birthday become a philosophical story. It's just amazing!
Leonardo Bauer
I'll give credit to Moore where it's due. The dude can write a great story.
I'm so happy that we got a few minutes with lil old Ally Moore
At what time they say Lil old ally moore
Salan Moore!
I actually lol'ed
Lil Ol Sally Moore!!!!!!
XD lol
Or perhaps Malan Oore?
Marvin Gonzale
I'm from England and I have to admit that Alan Moore impression was spot on. Hilarious, ha ha.
*internally panicking about whether or not this is all a Black Mercy fantasy*
Damn you must be living your best life
This was literally me watching the 100k live stream
Lil' Ol Ally Moore finally returns!
Oh shit. This was an actual episode of the Justice League cartoon. Awesome to see it's origin.
I'm shocked the broader DC universe doesn't have a serious Black Mercy illicit drug trade problem.
Also, I have to give Allan Moore a lot of credit for giving Super Man the very 21st century experience of having your older male family members sucked into a grotesque political cult and becoming estranged to them.
Loved the Alan Moore cameo! Never thought you would get him out of his cave for this
I'm sure that's a creative way to get out of a relationship: "Honey, I'll always love you... but I don't think you're real." And then you just walk away without another word.
Bought trade count since I started watching Back Issues: 49
This is probably my favorite back issues you guys have made! I feel like it was just a couple of weeks ago that you guys were at 30k but now you are over 40,000. your growth is amazing and i think you guys deserve it! Keep up the awesome content!
+dedrick12 Thanks man!
The return of Alan Moore! Since Tiffany is slowly turning into Doctor Strange with every gift she receives, can we get a green lantern hat for Ben and make him Geoff Johns?
This is my favorite episode so far. Cut back from reality had me dying
Not only is this the best comic ever, it's also the best back issues.
I love this story. And the episode of Justice League Unlimited was equally amazing. Thanks for covering it, Sal.
I think this is what a mother's love is supposed to be like. Thank you, have a great thanksgiving #MoreSalanMoore
"...now I barely recognize the man. I barely recognize his contributions". 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Back issues, u guys make my Wednesdays a trillion Times better, keep up the great work
6:05 and beyond was when I subscribed about a year ago lmao. This was my first video and I still love it.
Great episode as always. Always really touching when Sal does a video for a story he actually enjoys *glancing at Convergence*
Throwing Wonder Woman into the Hall of weapons is reminiscent of Casey Jones getting thrown into boxes of sports equipment
6:00 for the infamous, and classic “Ben Rapping”
Isn't a more sympathetic interpretation of the flower thing just that Supes has accepted that he'll never see the real Krypton and should stop living in the past. That seems more what Moore's getting at to me.
As a kid growing up when teen Titans and justice league/JLU were coming out I can honestly say it was one of my favorite episodes😂 The black mercy is such a cool concept and the dialogue during the fight is brilliant which in modern times is usually groan worthy
Next time please do this with a Grant Morrisson's story
Then he'll shave his head
marvel man
Or wear a bald cap
Hope this happens👌
Huzzah! Lil' Allie Moore returns! :D
Justice League Unlimited had a episode about this which was very good.
Great episode guys! I love how Alan Moore makes a dark and serious story keeping the fun heroic stuff of superhero comics. He's definetly a great writer, especially in his erliear years, unfortunately along the road he went nuts but I'll always be grateful to him for maaking V for vendetta because I just think that's perfect, much like this story. I would have wanted to see Jason's and Diana's heart desires but I understand why superman and batman have to get the black mercy on them.
I remember when this was done in the superman animated tv series. I might pick this up given that was one of my favourite episodes. Thanks for putting me on this.
Ps. Ethan laughter and Alan Moore? Fucking win
Edit: I guess I should have watched the full video before posting this comment
I always considered this story to be on the same level as Batman: the Killing Joke.
My favorite episode of Back Issues ever!!! All the episodes where Alan Moore show up are classics!
2019 anybody? Just watched Whatever Happened To The Man of Tomorrow and had to come see more Salan Moore.
Now I have to watch this Justice League episode again, if only for the Batman jokes and to hear Kevin Conroy's delivery. Amazing. Thanks guys. As always..
Benimem totally killed Ethan. Cut a whole track dawg!
Happy Thanksgiving, you lovely people! Thanks for all the laughs and comic talk.
6:06 Ben breaks Ethan
This is probably one of the best episodes of Back Issues to date.
I love this story, especially when it was adapted to JLU!
Aside from the well executed plan in Superman Vs. The Elite, Darkseid is the only being that can make Superman feel this level of pure righteous rage.
Omg it's Salan Moore my favorite comic book writer ever to exist
I'm so glad you guys talked about the Justice League episode that adapted this story. Personally, it's my favorite episode.
Wasn't this a Justice League the animated series episode?
Grey Scott yes
In fact, it's one of only two adaptations of his work that Alan Moore will own up to. The other being Saturday Morning Watchmen.
Grey Scott yep
It was actually better than the original comic
Yeah and it was fucking awesome
Actually there is another great story with Mongul after this and before Reing of the Supermen, is called "Exile" a pretty cool storyline when Superman end figthing in a space coliseum arena.
Hey comic pop, you think you could make some MOORE back issues with stories by Alan Moore?
Separate Cloud 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
i was hoping for a whole video of sal being alan moore! lol!
Cosmic Nerd Studios Shut up.
SuperComicFanboy 616 wow that’s mean
@@PlantationSensation i know right lol
I bet if the Black Mercy latched on to Alan Moore it would die, because it’s impossible to conceive a scenario where that man is happy.
38:00 they nailed the impression lmao
Look everybody it's Lil' Old Ally Moore!
God dammit... this came out nearly a year ago and only now am I getting that “back to reality” joke probably my favourite ComicPOP joke so far haha
My second favorite Superman story, it's so good. JLU adaptation is incredible but I prefer comic book, especially it's depiction of Kyrpton is perfect. And it contains Jason Todd's most badass moment. I never like him as an antihero, he had potential as Robin but never used well. After this story Black Mercy used several times. Ones for Hal Jordan and other time for Green Lantern Corp. members and this version is different it doesn't give person's heart desire, it gives person's worst nightmare.
If this hardcover is like the paperback of Moore stories I have, then it's got a Swamp Thing story after all: "The Jungle Line" from DC Comics Presents. Which is awesome, but always overlooked.
that intro might be the best thing ever! just so good.
I came here for Salan Moore
I stayed for Beninems flawless Lose Yourself rendition
This is going right onto my essential Superman list. And that list is going right up my nose!
For science.
I love the original comic book story EXCEPT:
I don't know why Clark would dream of Krypton. He has no memories of that place. If he should dream of, "Home", it should be of Smallville, where he grew up.
Pre-Crisis Superman identified with his Kryptonian heritage more, while post-Crisis Superman was all about his Kansas upbringing. The current Superman is a balance of the two.
I have not read this story yet, but oddly sounds like the greatest Superman story ever. I'm finding the hardcover immediately! That said, why do I feel bad that one of DC's most incredible writers in history is a passive British wizard who could care less about his contributions to their pantheon??
I love Sal’s Allan Moore 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
"If she falls, I'm dead" 😅
Salan Moore Returns!
This is my favorite Back Issues episode.
a fantastic back issues on a fantastic back issue, keep up the great work guys!
so what are your thoughts on What Ever happened to the Man Of Tomorrow?
sal that was the best thing ever you need to bring back the alan moore every time u do one of his books
If someone wants more Mongul stories, read Green Lantern Corps, Mongul fights the GL Corps and is fucking cool.
Overusing the Black Mercies and kind of missing the point with the Yellow Mercies (or whatever the fear ones were called, instead of being a trap people don't want to escape from they are ones they do) were a bit annoying but everything else, with him fighting GLs, Daxam then Sinestro was all great
Also "Exile"
Strangeguy0451
I want Mongul to come back and see that Warworld is destroyed and he goes to hunt the GL Corps and the Sinestro Corps in search of revenge.
Sal got a hair cut
It's true.
we all know that the old Sal is going to be back eventually, why we can't just enjoy this until then?
Ocelotl Chimalpahin after he gets a mullet
It’s lil’ ol’ Aly Moore
Alan Moore probably watching Sal impersonation right now and casted a wizard spell on him lol. Sal has made 2016 a better year
LMBO Salan Moore, this was too funny
Linkara: I like making fun of Frank Miller!
Sal: Hold my beer.
holy hell, i just found the superman vs mongrel clip from the Justice League Unlimited adaptation and that was freakin' epic lordy be, and I only saw a four minute ending clip. gotta check out that JLU series
anyone ever want Sal to team up with EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORY and make a Alan Moore vs Grant Morrison video ? Sal as Moore and maybe Max Landis as Morrison?
Sal: Dammit, Ben. You broke Ethan.
Ben: Just hit factory reset. If he's anything like Buzz Lightyear he'll start speaking Spanish.
One of the best Superman stories ever
Love that Ethan broke his costume.
I woke up when this video ended and found it was all one fantasy...I want to go back.
Couldn't stay in character the whole video ^_^ Ethan broke Sal quick
Amazing Zero he broke AL quick.
Justice League Unlimited Season 1 Episode 2. Quite the masterpiece too.
This story was amazing.
lmao! You guys do the best videos. Always excited on Wednesdays for new comics and you guys. Your impressions are hilarious!
Sal forgot about another big Mongul involvement in the EXILE story. That was years before the whole Cyborg Superman / Coast City thing.
I love your Alan Moore. I think you should bring him back and review something like LOEG or Promethea.
29:50 i cracked up so hard at that LOL Herpa Derp!
I owned a copy of this back in the day! Had a big smile with this entire episode!
perfect Alan Moore impression
JUST finished watching the Elseworlds Exchange where you said you'll talk about this. And Salan Moore!!!!!
Who else is here because of the short?
So glad to finally watch this episode.
i really enjoyed this episode. Mongul is one of my favorite villains, super smart super strong and super asshole is my favorite combination :) loved his portrait in young justice. love you guys
Salan Moore!!!
I feel like these are my long lost nerd uncles from another world
6:04 For Ben rapping.
This channel deservers more recognition.