LattePanda 3 Delta: Powerful Intel CPU SBC
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ก.ค. 2024
- LattePanda 3 Delta single board computer review, including full specifications, demos running Windows 10 and Linux Mint 21, and some speed tests. You can learn more about this new x86-64 SBC on the DFRobot website at:
www.dfrobot.com/product-2594....
Please note that the LattePanda 3 Delta featured in this video was supplied on loan for review by DFRobot, and subsequently returned. I was not paid in any way by DF Robot to make this video, so it is not sponsored content.
My earlier review of the Khadas VIM4 to which I refer during the Kdenlive video rendering test is here:
• Khadas VIM 4: Powerful...
And my previous LattePanda videos include:
LattePanda Windows 10 Single Board Computer:
• LattePanda Windows 10 ...
LattePanda Alpha: Windows & Linux SBC:
• LattePanda Alpha: Wind...
LattePanda Delta Celeron SBC:
• LattePanda Delta Celer...
LattePanda Alpha Week:
• LattePanda Alpha Week:...
Finally, my review of the 500GB WD Black NVMe SSD that I used in the drive tests is here:
• WD Black NVMe SSD
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:02 Unboxing
03:00 Specifications
07:21 Running Windows (inc tests)
12:05 Running Linux (inc tests)
16:08 The x86 Advantage (wrap)
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As a normal human, I'm glad they had an easy-open package. As a fan of this channel, I was disappointed that there wasn't any appearance by Stanley the Knife or Mr. Scissors. As for the board itself, it seems to be reasonably priced for what it has. It looks like a decent little computer.
I have an ARM SBC coming up fairly soon that demands some serious cutting to get at it! :)
@@ExplainingComputers I'm sure those of us who are fans of Stanley and Mr. Scissors will be thrilled. Though in general, I HATE packaging like that.
Reasonably priced? Looking forward to that reveal. Price is why I don't have a latte panda
Edit : wow, you weren't kidding. That's not bad
Stanley is the best
@@eidgenossenarkebuse Sure, but let's not put down Mr. Scissors. In certain cases, he works better than Stanley.
Ec is one of the very few creators that do unpaid reviews , I feel Paid reviews really cloud the water as you never really know if the creator is twisting the truth to make the item sound better than what it really is - Thank you Christopher for keeping it real and telling it as it is ! Looks like the Latte Panda is a great little SBC !
Thanks Ian. I am glad that you appreciate what I try to do here. :)
The SBC manufacturers should sponsor you, Chris (with a no-content-control clause, of course).
If it weren't for your videos, I would never hear about these PCs.
I'd bet that you are responsible for generating a significant portion of the sales for these products.
If it weren't for this channel, I'd know next-to-nothing about the SBC market. Thanks for keeping us informed!
it is a nice sbc, but it seems like a little bit too expensive for me, but i hope lattepanda could make a Ryzen version
nah ryzen will overheat more
@@bennaambo2716 wrong lol
Get an HP T740 "thin client", they have Ryzen SoC's in them
I’d be a customer at a lower price and a Ryzen processor.
the issues with AMD is that they don't support as many code API's as Intel does (there was a parallel programming api that was dropped from AMD and since this doesn't include a nVidia GPU, no CUDA), granted that only affects a small subset of people but it's easier for a company to do one sku that everyone can use or you'd see this or the other board being even more expensive
Normally I’m a little resistant to more expensive SBCs as often you might as well buy a laptop by the times you’ve bought all the peripherals. However, in this case because of what it offers with the Arduino, 2 M.2 slots and connectivity for a touch screen I think it looks really interesting. I’m a bit disappointed it’s only 8Gb RAM but I’m still tempted.
Like so many(!!!!!!) other expensive SBCs the connectivity isn't better than a cheap microATX board with CPU, but it is underperforming considerably compared to that. SBC's like the PI where fun side projects for a low price. But what kind of users are supposed to buy the expensive crap ?
@@erikkarsies4851 Yeah doesn't make much sense. You could even buy a used thin client with very similar specs for a lot less money, plus it's got a case and stand.
@@FlyboyHelosim I think it ends up costing as much for them to develop as those larger boards because they aren't as mainstream. (kind of guessing here)
I only wish cheap laptops included debug headers or at least motherboard schematics. I purchased one of those $100 USD Gateway laptops with soldered emmc and it's frustrating to think that I can't replace the storage or recover data unless I use an external usb drive or universal chip reader.
@@erikkarsies4851 You have a lot of IO options that you will not find on any mATX board. It is basically a board that is cheap if you need it for industrial functions. It will not be the board to use as a media server or similar functions. It is a cheaper then any mATX board I have seen for industrial use.
Im old enough to remember when a $1000 PC was the holy grail for computer companies. Inflation adjusted that $1800 in todays dollars. Those $1000 computers were pretty much trash and I include the $999 base iMac in that. Seeing a $340 SBC that is far more powerful than the $1000 crap boxes from the early 2000s is just amazing. Even more amazing, you dont have to spend a dime on software to make it useful. As amazing as the advances in hardware have been, the fact that you dont have to spend anything on software, including games, is even more amazing.
Great post, thanks for sharing.
Thanks Chris, as always well produced, informative and interesting. Your videos are always a 'must watch'.
Interesting, Latte Panda has grown in size with each passing generation. Altogether a nice SBC board which could work as on the go PC replacement.
Have a great week, EC !
Very impressive! I'll be looking into this SBC seriously now.
The serial port would make it an ideal drop in replacement in old industrial computers, especially if it supports legacy booting. There's many old computers out there that will be getting to the age of needing replaced, and being able to fit small, cheap systems like this whilst not sacrificing power and compatibility would be quite big.
most serial ports are just usb adapters these days.
The Kdenlive results were impressive. The LattePanda has come a long way from their first board. I would find a comparison of their various boards interesting. Looking forward to your next video!
Would this be attributed to Intel Quicksync?
@@revrndcast3918 If so, hurrah for Intel!
The way you talk and present in a consistent manor is like a well designed Desktop environment - where all components match and we know what to expect. Or for coding, like a well designed API.
I nearly forgot you posted the video today, glad I didn't miss it. It's nice SBC, it knocks spot of the other SBC. 😊
Again, great content and excellent presentation. It is an impressive SBC at a significant price point. On another note, I repaired and reconfigured a Lenovo T460 laptop to life using Linux Mint Cinnamon. All the Hardinfo data is excellent. I’m glad I could keep this solid somewhat older laptop. Cheers!
I happily run (Gentoo) Linux as a daily driver on a dual core Thinkpad T61 going back as far as 2007 - the T460, a very nice machine anyway, is new by comparison.
I have Gentoo running on single core Pentium M Thinkpad T40, T41, T42 and T43 - yes, they struggle with web browsing nowadays but are perfectly good home laptops otherwise.
Only Windows ages hardware to the point of it becoming useless to the clueless that know no better.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 Had a T61 for awhile for about 5 years. My son and I used it for trying out varying OS to see which one would work best. That was fun. Now, I’m too impatient for all that. Must be the amount of caffeine I drink.
Happy Sunday everyone.
Greetings Stephen.
Another glorious day with a SBC, good job Chris keep up the good work 👌🏾
Great to see another Chris video, Chris!!! This device looks great!!!
Another great video. Considering power consumption, (in the current climate,) SBC's such as this are increasingly significant.
Now you talk about a mini PC Christopher always love theses Videos. Theses kind of PC are useful for many uses cloud gaming weather stuff etc etc have a nice week.
Hi, Chris. As usual, you've produced an outstanding video. Thank you and keep up the good work.
Went to find info on this board and of course there's an EC video on it. I don't know why I still bother searching anywhere else first...
Thank you CB, you make at least one aspect of our lives easier. o7
I wonder how people still like this board one year in
Impressive, at first I thought it is a brave person sending a SBC for Chris to review but with that performance I would want to show it off. Using 'bang for buck' comparison vs rpi4 this is impressive considering also the relatively low power consumption
A 45 Watt power brick has it comparable to some Apple laptops.
I like your videos because they are real-world situations I've often had to deal with in friends and family computers.
I’m impressed by how much they were able to cram onto a small board!
Again another great video, as always. No blabber, all the interesting and fun stuff. I love the theme of sbcs and you are my go-to content creator for things like this. Thank you for your time and effort into producing these incredible videos! I always love watching them :)
Thanks for watching.
@@ExplainingComputers I will happily continue to watch :)
Great video! I really enjoyed the "not fast forward" section where the SBC was doing the fast -forward for us. I might have liked to see some kind of performance test on the built-in Arduino. If you kept a sketch to blink into a frequency counter or an oscilloscope, we could get a feel for the chip performance. If you were feeling really generous, the sketch could include some floating point math with a blinky output. When I was testing some little seeed controllers I purchased, I was surprised to see the blinky program producing waveforms in the 20-30khz range. Thanks for the entertaining video and testing especially on the HD speeds, something I'm going to go try today.
I'm so happy that at last someone compared vim4 and latte panda! Thank you Christopher!!
Now that's one powerful little SBC! Heavy price tag (compared to other SBCs) but impressive performance results in this video. Thanks Mr. Barnatt. 👍
Thank you, Chris. Great video 🙂.
All of your work informs and entertains, salubriously taming the wilds of the Internet, myself included.
With respect to N5105 cpu, there's been discussion on Proxmox community forums indicating that while PM itself is stable on N5105, users report that oddly their VMs themselves are crashing (i.e. without seeing anything impairing Proxmox itself). J4125 Celeron may continue to garner these PM users' attention until their N5105 issues are patched. Some Proxmox users have switched and are running VMware in order to deploy N5105.
Instead of Another Brick in the Wall, we’ll call it another dent in the wallet. Just amazing how far the performance of the Celeron has come. Again, another outstanding review and presentation, always greatly appreciated. Thanks
Excellent review ! Interesting SBC solution.
Thanks as always for the great information!!! You are smart, articulate and very informative as always!!!
Considering the current prices of Raspberry PI 4 coupled with absolute unavailability of 8GB versions, I would call this SBC a bargain, if one can actually get it.
Thank you, Chris, for another great review. Have a lovely afternoon.
Seems you're in luck, it's in stock at DFROBOT if you cared to click on the link in the description. 🙂
I just went on ebay in the us. They are around $120-150 if you look.
The RPi 4 doesn't really have much use for 8GB of RAM. And you can still find the RPi 400 for $100 directly from Canakit. Buying these things from eBay or Amazon is always going to be at an inflated price.
There are some cheap SBC Pi4 clones around and for almost the same price you can buy a microATX board with a way more powerfull CPU. Current SBC pricing are ridiculous compared to the performance you are getting.
@@Magus12000BC So true, mine almost never goes over 3 GB in use, even with Firefox and LibreOffice running. (Manjaro-XFCE)
Thank you. I believe this is the one I've been waiting for.
loved your presentation. Thanks for all you do, i enjoy your channel the best of the best
@Explaining Computers
Once again, an excellent review! You should buy one of these and do a more in depth exploration. I think this little SBC might be worthy of the effort!
I love this guy so much he is so nice and always so full of energy
This Latte Panda is an impressive media playing solution. Thank You for this helpful review of it.
Pretty impressed for the size.
This looks like a great SBC, thanks for sharing it with us, Anne Robinson
Thank very much for this precise and useful information 👌
Hi Chis, thanks for another amazing useful video
That was quite the quick one to render!
Great video as always
Thanks for sharing your experiences with all of us :-)
You are the only reviewer I have ever heard apologize to a board before turning it over! Great review, as always.
british moment
@@Robbie-mw5uu We Brits are very polite 😀
Very impressive, as have been all of the LattePanda SBCs!
Hi Chris, and yes. I cannot believe that this is my 10th video about LattePanda hardware. :)
Great video sir. That SBC looks really amazing, I can definitely use an x86 board.
Lovely SBC, well worth the money i think. Thanks for sharing Chris. Stay safe and well
Greetings Brian. :)
Now this is the kind of SBC I've been waiting for.
I don't want to have to deal with any of the headaches or compromises you get with ARM based systems, and this is the first semi-affordable x86 SBC I've seen that I would say is powerful enough to make it worth dropping that much money on.
Definitely putting this on my list of things to pick. Should be a lot of fun to mess around with.
Curious as to what restrictions you notice with ARM options.
@@BeeRich33 the inability to run windows, mostly.
I just don't want to mess with Linux.
But also, ARM processors tend to be less powerful than a comparably price x86 processor.
Just what I was looking for. I can put this in my truck for computer access and e-mail.. now to get star link and those components and have a good access point from where ever I am.. Well done.. thanks for the new info..
I can imagine that many of these will become vehicle computers of one kind or another. :)
I love the retro sound of the theme music. reminds me of late 80's/early 90's
Strong SBC showing! Gets the creative juices flowing
8th of November on the Windows 10 panel...you really are posting from the future 😁
Amazed at how much faster it was than the previous gen. Maybe there's some dedicated hardware encoding in the new CPU that wasn't in the old one?
(yes I know it's set to American date formats)
US and UK date formats are equally confusing. ISO 8601 seems to be most logical.
Very nice Chris, thanks for the review....!
When someone says SBC, it's not SIngle Board Computer, its Sir Barnatt, Christopher....so synonymous are you with all things SBC that both are interchangeable 🙂
:)
Thanks so much as always
That is a very capable little SBC. You could slap one into a 1080p monitor and call it an all-in-one. I particularly appreciate how they have an Arduino sharing the board with all the pinouts you would expect and a lot more besides. Looks like the pinouts provide access to every aspect of the computer going all the way down to the BIOS so you really could make this board run anything
So glad I was born a nerd, hard to believe, I know, but most people out there wouldn’t get excited by this top quality video. Biggest question now is, since nobody can afford to run their central heating, how well will a lattepanda 3 delta heat your house and keep you warm this winter?
Nice video Chris! Thank you for sharing it with us!💖👍😎JP
Well it may not be sponsored content as such, but they must know that they're on solid ground for a great review, lending YOU a brand new 8GB LattePanda. You have something of a reputation.
LattePanda 3 Delta + Linux Mint 21... Shh, everyone, let's leave Chris alone with them for some "special time."
Impressive performance and connectivity.
thanks great review, wish I had a reason to get one.
Always great content and well presented.
After Raspberries I also got into X86 SBCs very much and definitely see their advantages as Well 💪🙏
Great review, thank you for this
No problem 👍
Well done presentation Chris, even though I could not afford a SBC at that price it was still informative and interesting. Thanks have a good one 🤠👍✌
This one is quite impressive. It's not the best price point, but for what it does, the form factor and the performance, I'd (make an effort to) get one, though I'll have to save my pocket change to do it. Thanks for another great video Chris.
Nice video, thanks! Also looks like a nice SBC, though it doesn't look like they offer a case for it yet, at least one I could find in their store.
Yes, they had several very nice case options for the 2nd gen boards
genius purely.. can't wait 2 add it 2 my rowbot!!
Great video, as always. Please, Chris, have a look at Firefly ROC-RK3588S.
Me gustan tus videos, muy buen contenido. Saludos desde Chile!
Hi Chris, I just spent a few hours this weekend setting up Android on a raspberry pi 3 using Emteria which allows 3 free licences for home projects. It works well and might be of interest to some of your viewer's. Also just another pi project with a twist. Keep up the good work 👍👍
Interesting, I'll take a look at Emteria. :) Thanks for the tip.
Great Video as usual! 🙂
Will you do some Graphics Benchmark Tests later?
Would be interesting to see what this Board is able to do.
Greetings from Germany 🙂
It's quite interesting and unusual to see an x86-64 SBC running with a Celeron chip with a max speed just shy of 3 GHz; it seems the LattePanda family is gradually improving!
One thing you did not mention when comparing it with other boards including Pi 4, NUC's etc was the power consumption, that may play a big factor in some applications
So true, many parts of the world are in an energy crisis right now. Using x86 chips is becoming more and more a heavy legacy stone to drag along over the years. Their potential for further architectural optimization
shrinked drastically. So intel and amd raise the frequency excessively, which is bad for the efficiency. It is about time to use better and proper solutions in the 21st century.
@@aladdin8623 We are one of those countries where food and fuel of all types are rising at an unsustainable rate. I have a Raspberry pi which I will be experimenting with as my "desk top" computer. Powered from solar, a charge controller, battery and DC to DC converter. All the energy ultimately gets converted to heat which at least helps to warm the house in the winter, in the summer not so good 🙂
@@GrasshopperOutdoors Wow congratulations, wished i had the skills too for home solar power builds.
Arm based SBCs are in any case better than being dependent from intel's and amd's oligopoly.
Beyond that i am excited about RISC-V based SBCs. Recent RISC-V combinations even come with imagination technologies gpus, for which open source drivers have been announced. They even got mobile solutions for more efficient tier 4 and even tier 5 hardware ray tracing, while amd and nvidia still use power wasting tier 2 and 3 hardware ray tracing.
Hopefully in near future we don't need nvidia, amd and intel anymore.
The problem currently with RISC-V is that there arent a menu of hardware options. I own an Orange Pi Zero 2, and its nice for what i need.
Any chance you have that build posted here? If not, could you post one? I have tinkered with solar cells and comouters for about 10 years and i have no baseline. Motorcycle batteries, panels, etc.
Received my LP3D on Monday, really nice and powerful SBC. I have installed Windows 10 on a NVMe SSD and Ubuntu 22.04 on the internal 64GB storage, everything is working fine so far. Great to have a really usable pocket PC with fast USB and LAN ports and a full size HDMI connector. It is more than powerful enough to watch TH-cam and Prime, even older games will run properly at 1080p. I have disabled a lot serial ports in BIOS to have less drivers needed, hope they will release something like a "Desktop" BIOS for this case in future.
Like no. 600.. Like this a lot, should be able to run games on this one as well. Great review Chris, best performing SBC in x86-64 format so far, but pricey though..
Very cool! If you haven't already returned this device and have time a short blink sketch video using the pins would be helpful. I could see getting this instead of a new low cost laptop with all the fun this would offer.
This is a very interesting video!
Love your videos man love ya!!
Thanks for your kind feedback, appreciated. :)
When it comes to detailing the hardware, this is the standard by which all other reviews and reviewers should be judged. The most detailed and yet also easy to understand breakdown of all key functionality. Very few others would point out the key differences between the USB ports. I also get to see some of the key benchmarks such as the disk speed tests. I hope that we will get another video, further showcasing the possibilities because the whistle is well and truly wetted. DFROBOT do seem to be operating in a rather cheap and tight manner, only loaning the device, which I am certain will crate major interest that will more than offset any loss of giving the product away for an impartial review. If there was a review of the month award, this would get the one for August from me. Well done indeed. My only gripe with this product is more aimed at Intel because however you look at things, this is not a budget price for what is a lower processor, which is lacking a key component for future proof use, AV1 hardware codec support from the GPU. Considering that Intel is one of the key members of the group that has created the open source codec, they are mind blowingly slow to implement it across the board. Yet again we have to wait for the next generation with Iris graphics to get support at the lower end of the range.
Thanks for this. Note that DF Robot offered a free board, but I wanted to return it to avoid being paid in kind, and having to declare sponsored content. But I have shot other content with the board other than what appears in this video, so it will pop up on the channel again. :)
@@ExplainingComputers I think that by now you have demonstrated that your views and opinions are always unbiased, so should not worry about seeing acceptance of a product as being in kind. If they don't want it back then they can send it to me as I will put it to very good use :-)
Great Video Christopher. I wonder if you will be doing a future video that covers the interaction between the x86 and Arduino sub-systems?
very nice looking board with plenty of slots and connectors. and it is for Windows + Linux. seems to be a decent SBC for everything.
Such a sweet SBC!
I was puzzled by your disclaimer regarding the fact this video was not sponsored. I always expected the most honest opinions from you across the board.
I included the disclaimer because (for the first time this year) I had not purchased the hardware I showed. So I wanted to explain where it had come from -- and was returning to. Normally I make it explicit that I have purchased a product. So on those rare occasions when this is not the case, I make this explicit as well.
Clearly I did not have to include the disclaimer given that I did not receive anything of value to help me make the video (if I had done this the video would have to be flagged as a paid promotion -- ie sponsored content). However, we live in a sad social media world where a great many creators break both TH-cam's terms and conditions, and advertising standards laws, and do not declare videos featuring "free" products as paid promotions (something that the ASA in the UK has been complaining about recently). In turn this behaviour breeds the assumption that influencers/creators regularly promote free products without saying so. Hence the introduction I made to make it clear that this was not the case here.
You can always take my opinions as honest, and it will always be absolutely clear where anything I feature on the channel has come from, and if I received it for free (which now only occurs with pre-release Raspberry Pi SBCs). :)
@@ExplainingComputers Thank you for taking the time to write this, Chris! You are 100% right in everything you said and it resonated perfectly with what I was thinking later that day. Cheers!
Excellent content as always. Could you make a video on how to use software defined radios(SDRs) with SBCs ?
I am so glad you received this Delta 3! Your “full” testing of the older model was superb!
If you find you may not need the older model (though you are returning this one… please advise.
I did get one PI 4/ 8GB. I was hoping to get a 2nd one for wife to make a nice wood laptop.
So many boards for the pi4 processor unit by many vendors , I am waiting to see what will be available for the wife. There is a long list already of other vendor boards for CM4, PI IS REALLY TAKING OFF. IM CONCERNED FOR AVAILABILITY THOUGH AT THIS CRITICAL TIME FOR RASPBERRY FOUNDATION. ILL SEND YOU LIST I HAVE OF OTHER VENDOR BOARDS FOR CM4 TO COMPARE WITH YOUR LIST!
GOD BLESS!
My criticism will go to the single USB 3.2 Gen2 port not being identified by a different colour in the plastic connector. However, this shortcoming is hardly Chris' fault and thank you for the usual great quality review.
Amazing Video 👍
I had the model LattePanda and was very impressed, the cost for the 3 delta is the only limiting factor for myself.
this is the solution i needed maybe
Not bad looks like a PC I would buy, it can be put in anything
I've been playing Kerbal Space Program a lot on this SBC. Runs like a charm.
I do like the LattePanda single boards they're like an echo back to the netbooks we got in the mid 00s. I'd get one if I wasn't counting the pennies at the moment!
As always, very interesting. Seems like a great sbc for its use. Are you planing to test the new asus Tinkerboard 2?
And here we meet again ! 😃
Greetings!
We do indeed! Greetings on another Sunday! :)
Man this would be an awesome desktop replacement board. 3d print an enclosure and attach it to the back of a TV and you have an awesome media PC.
Totally.
Worth watching to the end (or at least fast forwarding) to see the incredible (spoiler alert) video rendering performance under Linux.
:)
Hard to justify the price when you can find full mini pcs with the same chip, 8GB and 128GB SSD for $160 on Aliexpress (I won't paste links otherwise youtube might consider me spam). Anyway very nice video nonetheless
I'm with everyone else here: I would better get a cheap laptop of similar specs...so I did! I managed to grab an Asus laptop for USD$110 on sale: Dual core version of the LP3 delta soc (Jasper Lake soc, passively cooled), 4gb RAM (lame), Windows 10 Pro activated, 64gb emmc, m.2 nvme expansion port, extra m.2 that came with an intel wifi/bt combo, usb 3.0 and 3.2 gen 2, full hdmi, RJ-45 (yes, the last laptop with this port), speakers, mic, hd webcam, came with 45w charger, you also get the benefits of a 11.6" screen, keyboard, precision touchpad and of course a battery.
I'm listing all these components so you can weight how much you can get if you deeply search and wait for a good deal, compared to a expensive sbc. Comparison valid only if you intended to use the LP3 delta as a regular pc (and not for arduino projects, etc).
Edit: I got it so cheap because I think someone made a mistake. Intel in their eternal wisdom, brands all the dual core celerons under the 4XXX models (no matter the generation), but mine is the latest jasper lake celeron 4500 and I'm speculating that the store manager said "I want all these 4000 celerons that have been on the shelf for 7 years to be gone by the end of the sale" and so I took advantage.
The soc is pretty capable and I'm dual booting with debian linux. The LP3 delta soc has two extra cores and is 100mhz faster. Has the intel GNA for AI induction and sound (integrated mic and speaker) filtering that really works and makes a difference, plus the latest and greatest improvements. Totally recommend any chip from the jasper lake soc.
Sounds like you got a great deal. :)