You know what actually really pisses me off about it? He was still treated like a guilty party even after that as he was required to perform the psyche evaluation, and he failed because he was "unrepentant." Shit sounds like a conversion camp in the backwoods of America, but we're literally talking the German legal system. Of course it's their legal system from decades ago, so I can't say what it's like now, but this isn't some backwoods retreat for "troubled kids with the gay" it's the actual official government authorized legal system judging him for not being repentant of a crime he was proven not to have committed.
Odds are the actual culprit at least pretended to be remorseful. Courts frequently punish people who are unrepentant more severely than those who are repentant - and innocent people who are wrongly convicted almost never feel guilt for not doing anything wrong. In fact, only a psychopath would feel guilt for doing the right thing.
Sounds like this is in Germany, and since he was drunk when they picked him up, it was also probably charged as a DUI. So the charge would already be significantly more severe as is, but I’ve heard European court systems are far more vengeful when it comes to DUIs.
It's probably because the parents made them pay for the damages outside court, but had records of this, so for the kid it was probably the deed itself + the damages, since he obviously can't pay damages, it got added to the community service. When the actually guilty one was trialed, the parents probably told and showed the court, that he paid the damages, so his punishment was just the deed. Also the whole remorse-thing probably played a role as well, OP was probably just angry or sth during the trial, obviously knowing he was innocent, but since he war trialed guilty, his punishment was for someone who actually did it, lied about it and didn't show any remorse about it whatsoever. Which are not additional crimes technically, but the judges in germany have a little room to decide, so it may be that he had like 250 hours for damages, and then from a range of 100-250 hours, he got the 250, the man got the 100 and had paid the damages already, so that was all he got. The numbers are not based on anything it is just to explain a bit how the system works in germany
8:48 I'd say have them arrested for the fraud, embezzlement, theft, two counts of false imprisonment, lying to law enforcement, lying to a judge, burglary, and whatever else I missed. Unless Germany somehow doesn't have laws for any of that, "no contact" should be the least of their worries.
we do, and i am suprised about 500 hours of community service. The amount is one of the highest I have ever heard of. Also what kind of a hack of lawer did the op have? Declaring someone legally dead is a lengthy process. It takes months without a certificate of death which in turn you only get by positive identification and fingerprints. The only way this could have happend, is, if the OP did not respond to summons by the court. i am by no means an expert and i have only a minimal understanding concerning civil law let alone criminal (more so economic) but the central idea behind the german laws is caution. I do not believe ANY judge would rule on legally dead without a shitton of evidence. As for what to do, let them rot and consequently burn in hell. If even one of the things those parents did is true, they deserve a prision sentence. If all of it is true? throw way the key.
I doubt cops will do anything about it. From the story it appears that "declaring OP dead" occurred 15-20 years ago. Not sure about statue of limitations on that issue in Germany, but it might have run out. Besides - both "parents" are around 80 years old, so - what's the point ?
The thing is that this works well in the US, where everyone sues everyone. But in Europe its not that easy to sue and get a profitable case. Most of the legal fees have to be carried by you, and the judge can't rule for the other side to have to pay the legal fees. This makes it a harder decision to sue, especially with a case like this where it is very hard to prove what happened since there is not a lot of evidence and its his word against his parents.
@@BigWhoopZH yes and no. Yes the court can say that the sued party has to carry all the costs for the trail itself. But that does most of the time not include the initial costs for the lawyer you have to hire. So... its a bit difficult. But at least I would have issued a restraining order as soon as I could somehow get away from them and become independent.
Story 2: It's not "just plants" if the mom was profiting from the clippings. That's robbery. Regardless, the damage is done and the family will not forgive and forget each other.
i have plants that I LOVE. I've spent hundreds on them including pots, special soil (i collect succulents so they need special soil) and fertilizer specific to the plants I have, to the point where my small 12x12 room is overflowing with them and all of the things i use to care for them. i call my plants my babies as cringy as that sounds and they even have names which are mainly greek mythology themed. if anyone ruined my plants the way the ops family did, id react the same way as the op. plants and things to care for them are so beyond expensive and they take a lot of time and patience to care for them so its completely understandable why she reacted this way
@@raywhittaker4813 I agree, I don't think that a lot of people don't know how much work they are. I'm new to being a plant 🪴 mom and I regrettably had more die. I'm Trying!
@@meleenabradley3017 one of my original 4 has a fungus right now and is slowly dying and I realized WAY too late to save her. I’m honestly really sad so RIP to my Baby Juno 😭
"They did all of that in an attempt to bring me on the correct way." Wrong. They knew you didn't steal and crash that car and lied about it and made your life hell for no reason. It ruined your outlook on social connections. This is the kind of shit that happens in Disney movies, man.
yeah tell em to get stuffed *insert appropriate word or words here*, these I know better then you types never learn from anything but hard consequences, also you should have retained a lawyer and sued them for declaring you said and had a restraining order of whatever equiv exists there put against them for that incident, secondly germany's legal system is beyond borked if when they caught the guy that actually did it and know it they cant clear the innocent party its a disgrace, not just should you have gotto cleared you should have gotton monetary compensation from the state and a written apology.
Maybe good intentions But if they rlly think breaking what is against the law in some countries was okay for that cause, they aren’t doing shit anymore Yes in certain countries (Singapore) there would likely be a prison sentence for all witnesses for false testimony AND the uncle for falsifying documents, in short, there is a good chance that possibly half the ppl involved would be put in prison
Story 1- These parents knowingly and willingly ruined their son's life. He doesn't owe them a thing. Story 2- Disgusting behaviour. Nasty greed by mother and daughter.
Story 2 - Absolutely agree about the mother, screw that bitch. The girl though sounds like shes easily led by authority figures. I'm not saying she's totally innocent, just that maybe she could earn forgiveness.
Well by the sound of it, the daughter in story 2 is pretty young, so its likely her mother just told her a bunch of lies saying it's okay and because it's her mother, it must be true. Sure not all kids are gullible, but that doesn't always make them accountable. (Unless I missed a point where he said the kid's age, I'd say this is ALL on the sister-in-law)
Some of the plants mentioned are rare mutations where even a single cutting is worth A LOT. Since the mother immediately went on to sell them, she obviously knew they were precious. I would have at least claimed the money she got for them and went to court if she refused.
The parents stole his childhood, made him live a life with no trust/no friends/no car, that is unforgivable imo - ZERO forgiveness, they are cruel and don’t deserve this man or his wife
The moment my husband ignores a family emergency like that and then tries to blame me for such is the moment I walk away. Sadly I have a friend that went through that and she had enough after her baby daddy didn’t even go to see his son that was in the hospital for a whole week due to asthma. She left him. She was sad, destroyed and a bit worry about the future but now she is doing wonderful raising her 2 kids as a single mom and I’m so proud of her.
so we are gonna ignore his point? First his point does stand. the OP is dumb enough to let a her son to watch her daughter cooked unsuperfized. yet if the OP trust both of her child its just a matter of time before diaster
As much as I sympathise with the situation in the fact he sounds like a moron. If he actually didn't hear them then what is he supposed to do? (Although the lock sounds super extreme). Secondly, just because he is a moron doesn't mean he is wrong, he is in fact right, nobody should be leaving 2 children in the kitchen unsupervised, especially if they are cooking.
We do not know if the husband intentionally ignored the family emergency or not, but he do actually have a point about the wife being neglectful. Reason is quite simple... The wife knew that the husband would take a nap at the time, the wife should have known if the kids were cooking food and if she indeed knew that the kids were cooking food (Which it does sound like she did) then she were neglectful by not supervising it or at least have the younger one with her. I mean seriously, who the hell leaves a 3 year old kid in the kitchen with another kid that is cooking without an adult surpervising them? I can understand not supervising the 14yo but the 3 year old is the very definition of neglecting your child. I do agree that the husband is not guilt-free either, although the situation could have been easily avoided by the wife. :|
@@Skullost he didn't bro had headphones on while being slumped my question is how the fuck a 3 year old is even close to 14 year old cooking and where was their mother?
@@cosmicchad4752the husband literally valued his sleep over his child's pain. At the end of the day, he's the ONE in the wrong. Not the mother. She did everything right in the situation. Do you not realize that something like that can happen in less than a second. The kid probably ran by a bumped the pan, spilling oil on himself. The husband clearly likes his family being in pain because he blamed the wife completely even though he was the one who intentionally ignored his family.
Also do people not realize that plants take a long to grow, so much patience, and just all around responsibility especially if you're a flower or plant collector in some form. Almost like taking care of a child taking care of it daily and making sure you give them proper sunlight (and maybe im not really sure snip off some leaves if you have to).
@@gamingwithpankajagarwal6773, ok let me ask u this, a person ask a sibling to look after their house, then the sibling steels objects worths hundreds of dollar’s and tries to sell them on facebook market place, this is bad correct so why is it different for plants that are worth up to $200 and a object worth $200
Story 1: The OPs parents and everyone else around him was the jerks, especially seeing how his parents tried to committed fraud to get his money just shows how greedy and manipulating they are wow, good on him that he got successful and moved on
Manipulating, yes. Greedy, maybe not. At the end OP says that he's sure his parent would give him the money if he ask about it. More of a helicopter parent want to comtrol their child
Story 3: This guy was so unprepared for a wife and children that I'm almost certain he accidently got transported to another universe where he had a family and just tried his best to ignore them living in his house and continued with the exact same schedule from when he was single
That doesn't make what you should be asking was where was op while her children were cooking in the kitchen unsupervised why wasn't she watching her children
1) Got forbid man have hobbies and don't want to be disturbed during said hobbies 2) More egregious is for the mom (OP) to let a 3 yo unsupervised while the 14 yo is cooking with HOT OIL
@@PS3PCDJ nah nah nahhhh don't pull that shit. Mum's got some fault but the Dad is a genuine dickhead. Fuck hobbies, I've got hobbies and maintain a healthy work-life balance. Sitting up all night to play games and then getting up early. Just ain't on when kids are involved. For those 18 years your life wholly hinges on em. They didn't ask to be born, least you can do is nut up and be a father figure for 'em. Bro'd end up with more time for hobbies if he slept like a sane person
***god to this man*** how the f did u die your wife were screaming at you begging to wake up cause the house was on fire This guy: I had my headphones on I didn’t notice my skin was burning
Well he plays stupid games then he would win stupid prizes!!! What an immature loser. Comes home from work just to take a nap and play little kid games all night. Divorce!!! She doesn't have 2 kids she has 3!
Well couldn't you burn to death at night? Sometimes very rarely I've left my stove on and I wake up from smoke, so I just turn it off, open all windows for 30 minutes and done
Funny the parents of OP in the first story call OP immature as the reason of they basically fucked up his teenage life and potentially ruined part of his future. And have the audacity to keep on harassing him after he turned 18. He really should just legally ended the family relationship between he and his parents and file a restaining order on them as well.
For the first story: Tell them to wire the money, then use it to change op’s name legally, and erase his presence so they can never find him, since you know; they declared him dead
1st story: So the parents let him get punished by the law, KNOWING he was innocent? Yeah, I wouldn't want to talk with them either. 2nd story: Stealing is wrong. Yes, even if it's from a family member. Yes, even if it's plants. 3rd story: Everyone has the right to take a nap. But your right to take a nap is not a right to seal yourself away from the rest of the world while there's an emergency.
12:55 I used to have a basil plant that I cared for, it was five dollars, and I got over a hundred dollars in basil out of it, but when fall hit, it started to die because of low sunlight, and when my mom threw it away, I internally cried, I had that for most of the summer, i cared for it heavily before vacations, and left it In a bucket, with paper towels going into the base of the planter box, and it survived like that for two weeks. Plants are much easier and cheaper to care fore than pets, just sprinkle some water on them once or twice a day, and you’re good. I haven’t shared to many about my little basil journey, but here it is.
Story 1 - He should just file a restraining order. They ruined his late childhood because they falsely accused him for a crime that he didn't commit and gave the actual criminal a slap on the wrist while he gets hit the hardest. The legal death thing was essentially a blackmail, or maybe that seems to me that is blackmailing. I live in America, so I don't know how the legal system works in Germany, but what I think he should've done was go back to his hometown, and tell the judge that he is not dead so he could get the money back with a restraining order that comes with it. Story 2 - He had a right to freak out. What they did was just flat out theft, and her niece and the sister in law should face charges. He intrusted them with his property, and vandalized and stole parts of his property. Whether he was overreacting or not, he has the right to kick them out. The "My Aunt said it was ok" is not something to brush out on. She committed a crime, and her aunt should've stopped her for it. As a consequence, they should face charges or face some legal penalty. Story 3 - It's kind of a grey area. The husband has the right to relax. I think the wife and the husband should talk this out civilly. Edit: I changed story 3 cause the first 2 stories got me a little too angry.
The parents actually helped him by removing them from his life and he was allowed to get his doctorate as he enjoyed that. They helped him but not in the way they meant. and the $50,000 or whatever is nothing to someone with a good job and a doctorate.
Nah. If he was neglectful for taking his nap and not having that interrupted, then she is indeed neglectful by not supervising her kids properly as well. Her daughter is 14 years old, so she has likely known him for a little while. Why she would not learn how to drive is beyond me, honestly. Unless she is the type of person a certain family member of mine is as well and asks for loads of stuff she could easily do herself.
@@actuallyasim I have a hard time seeing the guy who is mainly protective of his naptime and obviously does not care to bother or be bothered while that happens, as controlling or anything. She also said that the locks were an addition after she woke him up multiple times. While she said it was for "valid reasons" these were not given and could merely be that she didn't want to wait for him to be awake again to ask him something. This is likely a kind of "Boy who cried wolf" story.
Story 2: you had every right to, my parents are deep into growing plants and I see the amount of work it takes to nurture them. I have a hobby myself which is my car, if I gave it to my relatives to watch for it, and then when I come back I see it parted out, I'd be pretty pissed too.
the parents in story one should have gotten in legal trouble for framing the op for the car incident, lying about him being missing, lying about him being dead and probably more from what i know about police protocol, at least in America
The same laws apply in germany too, just afaik not before the 80s. And in difference to the US, there is a clause here that states you can't be tried for things that werent illegal when you did them.
@@kerfluffle3781 the is always, not usually, but then the government likes to do it all the time by reinterpreting the laws to claim it was illegal back then too.
Story 2: You're not overreacting. It's normal. To have something you love dearly get destroyed... It's a very painful feeling. And it hurts even more when they don't understand how important it is to you.
Story 2: I would sue them cause the op mentioned that they were prized and expensive and the sister in law tried to sell them for money and they literally killed,butchered and destroyed them completely
Story 2: I can completely understand why op flipped out. When it comes to plants it takes a lot of dedication and time for them to grow. It can be really devistating when something that you put your sweat and tears into be destroyed. Might be an exaggeration but it’s like losing a loved one
As someone who specifically breeds and due to work engineers plants, harming them can either be as little as 15euro in replacements or 3000 so yhea I have a little indoor garden in my house and the only person allowed there is me for obvious reasons.
One of the plants mentioned is an Albo Monstera. It's a slow growing plant that when mature sells for around US$10,000. Even small cuttings are commonly over $100. That being a single plant in OPs collection, I can only guess how valuable any of the others could be.
Honestly for me if it is a hobby then it clearly means something to the person, people think just because it is a plant, pet, origami or whatever that it's not a big deal, the reality is if you loved that person then you would know not to mess with their stuff, especially their hobby / past time. You are basically admitting that you don't care about them. Their hobby might not be important to you, but what if they ruined your hobby? Does it not matter because it's not something they enjoy?
Story 2 is DEFINITELY not an over-reaction. Many of the plants OP mentioned are SUPER expensive and even a single cutting would go for hundreds. The cuttings stolen from the monstera albo alone could be thousands stolen and even more in damages as many plants won't survive a severe cut. Some of the plants OP mentioned aren't too expensive but the size he said (eg. the golden that climbed the staircase) would easily push it to the hundreds or over the thousand mark even. It's hard to make an estimate without info but the mother and daughter could easily have stolen/destroyed $5k-15k worth of plants.
There's also context. These plants weren't destroyed because the plant sitters made a mistake and killed them by screwing up the instructions.. This could be a forgivable offense. Obviously you would never let them near your plants again but forgivable nonetheless. This however was willful destruction and theft. This is on par to selling someone's pet.
@@elteescat I'm going to still go with pet. The silverware might be important dye to memories you associate with it. But there's something to be said about taking a living thing and nourishing it, helping it grow that forms a very special bond. Clearly not like a parent/child, but still protective and responsible. A good chunk of this guy's anger is redirected self guilt because he feels he let his plants down when they needed him to keep them safe.
2nd story: buying select plants can be vary expensive. You can get a random plant from a store that might be 30-40 dollars, but if you correctly identify it and resell it it can be way more valuable, if you can keep it alive and healthy while you wait for a buyer. If she needs to refill a stairway with a particular plant it might be a thousand 65 dollar plants, 15 steps.
Story 2, My drama teacher has named all of her plants including one of them, Jamal, which is over £200, so if this happened to her she would probably find a way to order a drone strike on their houses.
Story 2: We (couple, 2 kids) were going out of town for more than 2 weeks and didn't know anyone who could water my wife's plants regularly. I had a stroke of genius. I kept the 12 plants around the water tap in the balcony and tore long thin strips of cloth from an old cotton sheet and tied one end to the tap with twine and led the other ends to plants. I tested the arrangement by letting the tap open a trickle and was really happy when the strips got wet all the way till where the other end was pushed into a pot. We left early next morning after checking the arrangement was OK. When we came back, the balcony looked like a mini forest with the "24/7 drip irrigation" encouraging every plant to grow!
I read the genius part and thought "is he being sarcastic or did he actually had a genius idea"... Welp, your a freaking genius! I would never in years thought on that. Things to make note for sure.
Another thing I saw I’ve no idea if this works now but supposedly before you leave take say a week to test but supposedly if you leave a water bottle upside down near the roots with some of beads that absorb water (plant safe of course) the water only comes out as needed (I don’t think this would work for all plants especially if they like dry atmosphere I hope you get what I mean
1st story needs a lesson from pro revenge. They really tried to ruin his life by declaring him dead like that and lied about the crash presumably to a judge.
And not just on them but the one who actually did the accident and everyone else that protected him and the psycho that did the evaluation for his drivers license since no remorse for something didn't do makes op unfit to drive.
Plus, they actually sold them, so it wasn't like they treated them incorrectly, they cut them to make money out of someone else's property... I'm sure that was made the OP go overboard...
Exactly. And some plans can not stand to be cut too far down either and can take years to grow up again., If they do not simply die after a short while.
To that man, those houseplants were truly special to him. Imagine this, it would have been like coming back home to find your beloved dog chopped up by supposed 'family' and sold for parts.
#2 Considering many rare plants can equal cars in price, I'm not supriced at her reaction. Imagine owning 35 nice cars and returning home to them completely stripped down and the parts sold...
Story 1: I think he should just ignore his parents and never talk to them again, if they continue doing shit to find him, legally remove their ability to make any sort of contant with him
I’m 14, the same age as the niece, she may have been influenced by her mother, but she’s beyond old enough to develop her own thoughts and figure out what’s right and what’s wrong, she shouldn’t blame her mother, she needs to own up to what she did
Not really. When I was 14 my parents would go on dates and I would be in charge because I was responsible and old enough. I a lot of people think "oh 14 is so young!!" but they are one year away from being 15 and they can get jobs, drivers permits, etc. It's tough for teens because people are constantly saying "your too old for that!" while at the same time saying "your too young for that!". Also I have spilled oil on myself at 17 (it landed on my pants so I was okay.) Another thing is that the OP can't watch her children every second of the day she has stuff to do, and the child probably wandered into the kitchen to see what she was making and it was terrible timing. There is no way the husband is in the right here, he literally goes home, locks the door, sleeps for hours and gets up when the children are probably almost about to go to sleep. they hardly ever get to see their dad. He is acting like a teenager and is super irresponsible. its okay to nap after work but having your earphones in and locking the door is irresponsible, especially because he's a father. what if the child drowned or got crushed by dresser? what if they all died because of something falling on them? he would just be asleep not hearing their screams and basically leaving them for dead. What if there was a fire? they tried to warn him but the door was locked and he could not hear them? they would have to leave knowing the husband doomed himself. if the husband acts like this he should NOT be a father.
@{InsertPenName} You didn't get tye full message of the video then. They constantly woke him up to bug him about stupid shit that could have waited till after he got his nap in. He wouldn't have felt the need to lock the door if they weren't constantly waking him up.
For story 2, I completely understand. Growing plants, especially rare exotic plants, takes a lot of time and effort. With as many plants as he had, it's on par to having a couple pets. The best comparison I can give, to explain to someone is they are like personal art work, that you keep adding to little by little, just to have someone rip it up. Car guys especially will understand the feeling, because it's like building their dream car, then someone comes with an angle grinder and starts hacking off parts and selling them. Something like this has happened to me before. I live in an apartment building with balconies. I asked my neighbours above and to my side to allow me to string my passion flower between all of our balconies, to make a green awning for our building. Everyone loved it. I also have friends that smoke and so would smoke on my balcony. After a few months, my neighbors started telling me that they thought something was wrong. The ends of the vines stopped growing and they said leaves were falling off. I thought I'd done something wrong with the care and started checking the pot, to make sure it wasn't water logged, which can kill the roots. I was horrified to not only find my friends had been ashing in the pot, but there was over a pack worth of butts buried in the pot. I tried to save my passion flower, but lost the plant and didn't have the heart to try again. My neighbours were heart broken. I showed my friends what they had done and they said they didn't know and it was no big deal. So I screamed at them. Autism can really get the better of you sometimes. They offered to replace it, but I said only if they were willing to train it and care for it. They didn't.
As a plant parent who has 100+ plants i’d be livid! A majority of the plants mentioned go for a LOT of money, many I myself don’t have due to just how expensive they can be. A Monstera albo can be anywhere from $100 for a single node and $1000 for a mother plan of average size. Cutting that plant alone and selling it would be enough to call the cops, from the sounds of it they stole well over $1000 worth of plants. I would sue! The SIL giving the money that she made off selling OPs plants won’t do anything! It won’t bring OPs plants back to they’re original glory and it wouldn’t teach those thieves anything! (she didn’t even offer that money to OP!) But I’m sure being arrested for theft and destruction of property would. Never in my life would I plantsit for someone and then go onto butcher their plants just because they said “you could have some cuttings”. Last time I checked you get paid AFTER plantsitting, the fact that OPs niece thought that it was fine to do that after OP said she would get cuttings for watching them then doing it well OP was away is extremely entitled brat behaviour, but seeing how the SIL acts it’s pretty easy to see where the kid gets it from. I seriously hope OP calls the cops and has the entitled SIL arrested that would also teach the niece that you’re actions have consequences. They should not get off the hook for this and honestly that would be a hill to die on! The SIL and niece obviously feel absolutely no remorse for what they did and clearly they’re idiots if they thought OP wouldn’t notice or care about what they did. The only person I feel bad for in this situation is OP. The fact that Her brother noticed that his wife and daughter were bringing home large amounts of plants and instead of calling or texting OP to confirm she was actually ok with it “auntie said it was fine” was good enough for him. OP even said in the beginning that her family knows about her prize plants means he was not oblivious to the fact that these plants are worth money. (regardless of if they were worth money or not it’s very obvious that OP cares about her plants and that’s all that should matter) He did do the right thing by bringing back the ones that weren’t sold yet and apologizing but that doesn’t fix what they did and he’s still partial to blame for not telling OP as soon as he noticed. Than to say “family means not holding grudges” is bs, I would have told him his daughter and wife are no longer considered family, then thrown the SILs words back at him “what’s done, is done” after all
I agree that the SIL should get some sort of legal consequences, but definitely not the niece. it sounds like this kid was genuinely interested in plants and respected her aunt as a mentor until her crappy mom used her as a pawn to make money for herself. the mom asked for the price of the plants, not the kid. this kid had NO authority to get her mom to stop, she was fourteen, barely even a teenager. when you are that age your parents have a lot of control over you, both with rules and psychologically. what the heck is she (as a fourteen year old) supposed to do in this situation? I think this mom is a sick individual not only for stealing, but also for sabotaging a relationship that was clearly important to her daughter.
For the first i would meet them but just to cut ties cleanly, that way there's no regrets when they pass away, otherwise you might end up regretting not talking to them. Ive heard of people who also had horrible parents but most of the time they say they regret not having that last conversation. For the second, yeah the op did overreact but who wouldn't when something so precious to yourself is destroyed, the little girl probably was only following what the mother told her to and thats why she cried, the mother being the adult is the one who should take all the blame and not be forgiven, and for the niece maybe just apologize for taking your anger on her too, we have to remember that most kids are not mentally mature to figure out some stuff. For the third i understand the husband wanting to have his free time to sleep and his hobby, but if either of those causes trouble to those around you then thats a problem, specially for a grown man with kids and a wife, like come on dude your family comes first and if you really need the sleep, then reduce the gaming time or just have some days where you play and others for your family, but honestly what that family needs is counselling because if the guy was more bothered about his stupid lock then his injured son then he is both a terrible person and a worse father.
So for some more context the daughter knew what she was doing. She was getting taught about plants, previous cuttings had 'went missing' before and she had posted them on her insta claiming they where hers. She was building up a one time business.
@@monkimallow oh of if thats the case the yeah the kid is also in the wrong. The brother should ay least have the respect to the op and force the wife and daughter to pay
If I were OP I would go NO CONTACT with those narcissistic, leeches (they don't deserve to be called parents). If they called to say "we're dying, make peace with us before we die" I would say "What's the point? You ruined my life for nothing, live with it", then I would hang up.
As far as story 2 goes: Forgive your niece. She was young and probably influenced by her mother to do that. It sounds like you could have a very genuine relationship with your niece and it would be a shame to throw it away forever because she was sent down a wrong path by her mother. If anything she needs more people in her life to show her how to do the right thing.
@@soniaduran3983 I agree. Just because you are young doesn't mean you should be forgiven. Also OP didn't specify if she told her when she would be giving her the cutting but from the sounds of the story she said SHE (OP) would be giving the niece the cuttings not that the niece should help herself. OP cutting off the niece as well is the consequence of the decisions the niece made.
Story 1: Good ol' useless Bureaucracy Story 2 needs to seek legal compensation. That is theft and malicious destruction of personal property and emotional damage to top it all off. Story 3: It seems daddy thinks being the breadwinner is all the family contribution needed so she should oblige him and dump his ass. If he spent any time being an actual father then he would know that sporadic child accidents are common and happen often. What isn't common is a husband and father being completely inaccessible while he's within his own house. In OPs case, I can understand not having a license as that shit takes a large time commitment but not being able to drive should have been accomplished a long time ago. My own mother never got one because of work/time restraints and eventually just laziness after becoming a housewife. But she made sure she could and does drive all the time.
I know its supposed to be ironic but i find the sentence ' 'I was no longer able to work on my doctorate while being dead.'' extremely funny. Also the megamind meme insert with ''my death was greatly exagerated.''
the plants is not the problem it was your hobby, your private property. it could be a star war collection, plants or collective baseball cards, its the same they destroy all for what you were working and collecting. time invested. i understand the fury.
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I have a philodendron climbing around my free standing chimney that I have grown for over 3 years. I would be absolutely mortified if someone cut it back to just the two or three leaves. I also remember talking to a lady who said she had some lovely trees that hid the fence all around her property. They were really big trees. Her live in boyfriend decided to cut the tops of them so that they were level with the top of the fence. She was absolutely livid and ended up chucking him out. If you are an avid gardener, they are not just plants. They are something you care about and lavish your attention on. It's like mutilating one of your children. Definitely no contact for them.
Story One: If OP doesn't want to see them, he should send them a letter telling them so & that what they did was literally unforgivable. They chose to sabotage any chance he had during his developing years of having a normal social life, & used fraud repeatedly in order to try to dictate his life, as such he has no interest in giving them the chance to sabotage his life again or that of his loved ones. As such they will never get to meet his wife & any future grandchildren as OP does not want to subject them to the kind of abuse they put him through. Story Two: I can understand that OP is upset, but most of that needs to be focused on the Mom, as she's the one who basically decided to ROB OP. I do understand why he doesn't want contact with them again, as they effectively destroyed YEARS of his work. My ruling is slight AH for blowing up at the kid, but it's understandable & the fact that the family just wants him to rug sweep the theft, and that's what this was a THEFT, shows that he should be leery about trusting them around his things & SIL MOST CERTAINLY shouldn't let back in his house EVER, the kid just sounds like she was dumb & believed her Mom maybe she can EARN back forgiveness but it's going to have to be via best behavior on neutral ground. SIL also owes OP all the money that she got from her sales from HIS property, without that no contact is the best solution. Story Three: Final story, I'm going to recommend divorce for OP, as her husband sounds like he has no interest in actually being an involved parent as he's asleep when the kids are awake & home so he can play X-Box. That's not an active participant in raising the children & only seeing them weekends at most while he lives in a separate house from them sounds preferable to him. OP isn't the AH for removing the lock, she is however for keeping the husband.
Okay. I’mma try to give some reasonable responses to all 3 of these stories. Story-01) Okay. I wouldn’t tell his to give chase to sue his parents if he dose not want to. He sounds fine where he is and I wouldn’t recommend continuing a needless drama that has settled. Story-02) I’d say they have are in the right to be mad about the destruction of her property and demand anything that wasn’t sold yet. However I do think it was wrong to blow up in the way she had. The husband of the S.I.L had no way of knowing what was happening was not authorized by storyteller. But he didn’t deserve to get some of that hate. He tried to de-escalate the situation and calm down the storyteller. Story-03) the last one is nothing by irresponsible parenting. The father needed to be available for when emergencies happen and when he was needed, he couldn’t be accessed. He was neglectful of his duties as a father. But I also have to wonder why was a 14 year old left unsupervised with cooking oil? Why weren’t they supervised? I wouldn’t say the mother is to blame for the incident, but to leave a 14 year old to operate kitchen appliances while using a substance that can exceed 300 degrees but only needs to be 300 degrees to cause serious harm is nothing to turn into a joking matter.
@@thatonerandomstick3664 yes... watch their younger sibling while also trying to focus on cooking with oil and not get burned herself, I could see a 3 year old come running out of no where and bump into her sister handling hot oil. The 3 year old should not have been in the kitchen, thus there is some neglect on the mother even if the 14 year old is old enough, The mother should have at least been keeping an eye on the 3 year old. To that much I agree with the father on, but he was still an ass and thus deserves the situation he's in now. I can understand though wanting to have time to do the things you want to do and not having that time because of work and other day time responsibilities thus doing it at night when no one is around to bother you is a way to get that enjoyment, honestly this is as much his fault as it is a society that demands long work hours for a livable wage. Wanting a couple of hours to sleep and sacrificing his sleep to have time to enjoy himself should be allowed. But he totally shouldn't be a dick about a family emergency as a result, the lock on the door should never have been there in the first place.
I first started learning how to cook when I was 6 years old and I was safely using the stove unsupervised at 9. There's no reason why a 13yo would not know how to cook. Accidents can and do happen in the kitchen, even when you have 28 years of cooking experience like I do. Just this morning, I accidentally burned myself when my finger brushed against the side of a hot pan.
Declaring a person dead who isn't in an attempt to make them talk to their family is grounds for 2 things: 1. A restraining order 2. A lawsuit for emotional distress, loss of education and earnings. A restraining order covers all of the family, the use of private investigators, electronic, written, visits by family members etc. If broken, it's considered contempt of court. Punishments include fines and custody.
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He can turn that anecdotes from a light-hearted one to something more substantial. He can say his parents sent him to jail, stole from him, kicked him from home, and murdered him. He has to tell people that his parents are no laughing matter.
Wanting to not be disturbed while you sleep, wanting a private place to relax after work, all of that is perfectly normal and the well-earned prize of a hardworking man of the house. But you still gotta get up when your kid's literally on fire.
Story 1: He should go meet even if it is just to close the books and maybe arrange some form of indirect connect. Maybe to get the money also. Story 2: If the nieces had done not a good job and the plants died, but they stole. If they took the television and stereo to sell the police would have been there in a shot. You steal form me the very least is your banned from my house. Story 3: Hell no. He can have the lock as long as she has a Ax to chop open the door if the situation (hopefully never again) she can get into the room. There is always divorce JDTMFA as Dan Savage says.
For story 3, a lot of indoor locks come with a tool to unlock them from the outside in case you accidentally lock yourself out of a room. Even if you loose the tool, you can usually figure out the mechanic by poking around inside it with a screwdriver. I got /very/ bored as a kid....
1st: he's not a jerk and should just keep the no contact! OP's parent and everyone around are the jerks!! 2nd: He's not a jerk at all and I understand. He should also sue them and all 3rd story! 50/50!
Story 1: I would just stay no contact. Considering I have seen this situation before with one of my Exgf. I actually successfully convinced her to leave her very toxic family after we broke up for reasons like she can't handle long distance relationship.
Story 3, this husband sounds like a teenager and in no way prepared for the responsibility of children. She should continue with his sole responsibility being financial and move on with the children, hopefully she'll meet a better partner.
Yes, you cannot choose your parents. Found out the hard way. Have not spoken with them for over 10 years. Last year I got an invitation for the 50 year marriage aniversity. Asked a friend if he could help me with something. After I explained how and what he helped me dig a small hole. Took an old picture of them both and placed the invitation in the small pit. Started recording and he lighted it and it was a really nice theraputic fire. Rented a truck for advertisement which could display a 'movie' on the sides. Parked it in front of the location where the celebration was at and played that video of the burning picture and invitation. Last thing I heard was that they truly expected I would come to their party. Also, they disowned me. Thanked them for informing me and smiled and moved on to the next topic.
That plant story was sad Like how did they think they were going to get away with it, its noticable and the niece isnt off the hook, if she loved plants, she should that taking too many clippings off the plants can kill it
Not a jerk. the parents are lucky to be alive. i might have sent an italian to pay them a visit. I would at the very least have no contact. They nearly ruined his life twice.
"Hey so you can't work on your doctorate since you're dead." "But you can see me standing right here in front of you, right? Having a conversation?" "Look I'm only telling you what I see on the sheet."
Could OP from the first story have sued his parents for everything they have? At least get a restraining order for conspiracy to conceal a felony? Edut: I'd make contact, with an axe to at least one knee cap, each
OP in story 2 needs to sue. They purposely destroyed his plants and sold them for money. That robbery, and with how expensive the plants are, that’ll be classified as a felony.
Story 2: Sister-in-law seems to be a greedy thief. The niece was only 14 years old and could not have stopped her mother. OP should at least have talked to her before banning her from her house and life.
I think in the second story he was overreacting like 5% but still quite a big deal for your precious things to get destroyed like if somebody destroyed the years of collecting of my Pokemon cards i collected it as a kid Imma be as mad as him
It's theft. They were in put in charge of looking after valuable assets. They then used that opportunity to steal from OP and sell them for profits. So not only did they fail in there orginal duty to care for the plants, they took advantage of OPs trust and used familiar bonds to steal from them and try and get away with it.
I would say that they made mistakes but its been like 25 years of no contact. I think they learnt their lesson so now contsct would be good for both really
"Family" does not treat you like a kind, loving person who is a human being would, then demands that you forgive and forget and NOT act like they hurt you badly. What kind of monsters do you have in those families? LAWYERS would have a field day with these lawsuits, and I hope you get JUSTICE someday.
Story 3: Kind of a weird grey area, because if they had respected his right to sleep, he wouldn't have put the lock on the door. And if they hadn't continually woken him up for "serious things" he might also not have ignored/began putting in earbuds. Don't cry wolf too many times I guess.
You can't be serious, right? Right to sleep? He only did that so he can play video games all night, which I guess is fine, but this guy has kids. Anything can happen. Serious situations arise, it happens. This guys clearly too immature to put his family first and instead gets pissy cause he got woken up from his nap. What if the neighbor wasn't available? What if his child died? Who would the police see as being neglectful? Not the mother trying to do everything she can, that's for sure. The wife needs to divorce that man child, FAST!
@@sarahgimas You gotta have some serious issues if thats all you heard from that story. Its literally crying wolf and getting to deal with the consequences. You have no idea if this man has sleep issues, or if the "serious reasons" are stupid as fuck. Grow up.
An innocent person gets over 900 hours of community service, but the actual guilty culprit only gets 100? There is no justice in this world.
Agreed, the so-called ``justice system`` is an absolute train wreck.
You know what actually really pisses me off about it? He was still treated like a guilty party even after that as he was required to perform the psyche evaluation, and he failed because he was "unrepentant." Shit sounds like a conversion camp in the backwoods of America, but we're literally talking the German legal system. Of course it's their legal system from decades ago, so I can't say what it's like now, but this isn't some backwoods retreat for "troubled kids with the gay" it's the actual official government authorized legal system judging him for not being repentant of a crime he was proven not to have committed.
Odds are the actual culprit at least pretended to be remorseful. Courts frequently punish people who are unrepentant more severely than those who are repentant - and innocent people who are wrongly convicted almost never feel guilt for not doing anything wrong. In fact, only a psychopath would feel guilt for doing the right thing.
Sounds like this is in Germany, and since he was drunk when they picked him up, it was also probably charged as a DUI. So the charge would already be significantly more severe as is, but I’ve heard European court systems are far more vengeful when it comes to DUIs.
It's probably because the parents made them pay for the damages outside court, but had records of this, so for the kid it was probably the deed itself + the damages, since he obviously can't pay damages, it got added to the community service. When the actually guilty one was trialed, the parents probably told and showed the court, that he paid the damages, so his punishment was just the deed.
Also the whole remorse-thing probably played a role as well, OP was probably just angry or sth during the trial, obviously knowing he was innocent, but since he war trialed guilty, his punishment was for someone who actually did it, lied about it and didn't show any remorse about it whatsoever. Which are not additional crimes technically, but the judges in germany have a little room to decide, so it may be that he had like 250 hours for damages, and then from a range of 100-250 hours, he got the 250, the man got the 100 and had paid the damages already, so that was all he got.
The numbers are not based on anything it is just to explain a bit how the system works in germany
"My University told me I can no longer work on my doctorate while being dead" lmao🤣
It maybe the university of the walking dead
Ikr.Discrimination
I would have lied down and said put me in a coffin I am dead
Well I was dead, but I got better. He is still waiting for his life insurance to pay out.
Wait you can be LEGALY DEAD?
8:48 I'd say have them arrested for the fraud, embezzlement, theft, two counts of false imprisonment, lying to law enforcement, lying to a judge, burglary, and whatever else I missed. Unless Germany somehow doesn't have laws for any of that, "no contact" should be the least of their worries.
we do, and i am suprised about 500 hours of community service. The amount is one of the highest I have ever heard of.
Also what kind of a hack of lawer did the op have? Declaring someone legally dead is a lengthy process. It takes months without a certificate of death which in turn you only get by positive identification and fingerprints. The only way this could have happend, is, if the OP did not respond to summons by the court. i am by no means an expert and i have only a minimal understanding concerning civil law let alone criminal (more so economic) but the central idea behind the german laws is caution. I do not believe ANY judge would rule on legally dead without a shitton of evidence.
As for what to do, let them rot and consequently burn in hell. If even one of the things those parents did is true, they deserve a prision sentence. If all of it is true? throw way the key.
I doubt cops will do anything about it. From the story it appears that "declaring OP dead" occurred 15-20 years ago. Not sure about statue of limitations on that issue in Germany, but it might have run out. Besides - both "parents" are around 80 years old, so - what's the point ?
@Donovan Ringo Except all the germans who use the internet, Germany is not quite the backwater country you believe it to be.
I agree 100% but Germany 30+ years ago probably didn’t offer those options
False imprisonment, I didn't even consider. All of it was insane and the parents wouldn't ever know me or my family of they were my own.
Dude wtf... he should have filed charges against them and sued them for all the BS they pulled. Those parents are literally insane.
And restraining order since they were stalking him after he left.
The thing is that this works well in the US, where everyone sues everyone. But in Europe its not that easy to sue and get a profitable case. Most of the legal fees have to be carried by you, and the judge can't rule for the other side to have to pay the legal fees. This makes it a harder decision to sue, especially with a case like this where it is very hard to prove what happened since there is not a lot of evidence and its his word against his parents.
@@ivatorI don't know about other countries but in Germany a court can very well rule who's having the cost of the trial.
parents did this to bring him on the right path?!.....what a crock of shit.
@@BigWhoopZH yes and no. Yes the court can say that the sued party has to carry all the costs for the trail itself. But that does most of the time not include the initial costs for the lawyer you have to hire. So... its a bit difficult. But at least I would have issued a restraining order as soon as I could somehow get away from them and become independent.
Story 1: if my parents try to reconcile with me after saying I died I would’ve said “Sorry I thought I was dead”
Story 2: It's not "just plants" if the mom was profiting from the clippings. That's robbery. Regardless, the damage is done and the family will not forgive and forget each other.
Some of those plants are MAD expensive too.
It's not necessarily just the plants. They showed a total disregard and disrespected him
i have plants that I LOVE. I've spent hundreds on them including pots, special soil (i collect succulents so they need special soil) and fertilizer specific to the plants I have, to the point where my small 12x12 room is overflowing with them and all of the things i use to care for them. i call my plants my babies as cringy as that sounds and they even have names which are mainly greek mythology themed. if anyone ruined my plants the way the ops family did, id react the same way as the op. plants and things to care for them are so beyond expensive and they take a lot of time and patience to care for them so its completely understandable why she reacted this way
@@raywhittaker4813 I agree, I don't think that a lot of people don't know how much work they are. I'm new to being a plant 🪴 mom and I regrettably had more die. I'm Trying!
@@meleenabradley3017 one of my original 4 has a fungus right now and is slowly dying and I realized WAY too late to save her. I’m honestly really sad so RIP to my Baby Juno 😭
"They did all of that in an attempt to bring me on the correct way."
Wrong. They knew you didn't steal and crash that car and lied about it and made your life hell for no reason. It ruined your outlook on social connections. This is the kind of shit that happens in Disney movies, man.
Dude seems too far gone. He drank the coolaid and just looks at the silver linings now.
yeah tell em to get stuffed *insert appropriate word or words here*, these I know better then you types never learn from anything but hard consequences, also you should have retained a lawyer and sued them for declaring you said and had a restraining order of whatever equiv exists there put against them for that incident, secondly germany's legal system is beyond borked if when they caught the guy that actually did it and know it they cant clear the innocent party its a disgrace, not just should you have gotto cleared you should have gotton monetary compensation from the state and a written apology.
Maybe good intentions
But if they rlly think breaking what is against the law in some countries was okay for that cause, they aren’t doing shit anymore
Yes in certain countries (Singapore) there would likely be a prison sentence for all witnesses for false testimony AND the uncle for falsifying documents, in short, there is a good chance that possibly half the ppl involved would be put in prison
Should have sued them the instant he found out they knew who committed the crime.
duh
Story 1- These parents knowingly and willingly ruined their son's life. He doesn't owe them a thing.
Story 2- Disgusting behaviour. Nasty greed by mother and daughter.
Though in his titles, who does he mean with 'I'?
He must have the weirdest life if all that happened to this guy
@@scorpionhdkid8972 He's just summing up other people's stories and putting them in first person. I was also confused at first.
@@Biggnomeenergy ye after watching for a while I understand now.
Story 2 - Absolutely agree about the mother, screw that bitch. The girl though sounds like shes easily led by authority figures.
I'm not saying she's totally innocent, just that maybe she could earn forgiveness.
Well by the sound of it, the daughter in story 2 is pretty young, so its likely her mother just told her a bunch of lies saying it's okay and because it's her mother, it must be true. Sure not all kids are gullible, but that doesn't always make them accountable.
(Unless I missed a point where he said the kid's age, I'd say this is ALL on the sister-in-law)
Some of the plants mentioned are rare mutations where even a single cutting is worth A LOT. Since the mother immediately went on to sell them, she obviously knew they were precious. I would have at least claimed the money she got for them and went to court if she refused.
Sue for the value of the cuttings, not what mom got for them. The value will be much greater than what she would get on FB Marketplace.
The parents stole his childhood, made him live a life with no trust/no friends/no car, that is unforgivable imo - ZERO forgiveness, they are cruel and don’t deserve this man or his wife
The moment my husband ignores a family emergency like that and then tries to blame me for such is the moment I walk away.
Sadly I have a friend that went through that and she had enough after her baby daddy didn’t even go to see his son that was in the hospital for a whole week due to asthma. She left him. She was sad, destroyed and a bit worry about the future but now she is doing wonderful raising her 2 kids as a single mom and I’m so proud of her.
so we are gonna ignore his point? First his point does stand. the OP is dumb enough to let a her son to watch her daughter cooked unsuperfized. yet if the OP trust both of her child its just a matter of time before diaster
As much as I sympathise with the situation in the fact he sounds like a moron.
If he actually didn't hear them then what is he supposed to do? (Although the lock sounds super extreme).
Secondly, just because he is a moron doesn't mean he is wrong, he is in fact right, nobody should be leaving 2 children in the kitchen unsupervised, especially if they are cooking.
We do not know if the husband intentionally ignored the family emergency or not, but he do actually have a point about the wife being neglectful.
Reason is quite simple... The wife knew that the husband would take a nap at the time, the wife should have known if the kids were cooking food and if she indeed knew that the kids were cooking food (Which it does sound like she did) then she were neglectful by not supervising it or at least have the younger one with her.
I mean seriously, who the hell leaves a 3 year old kid in the kitchen with another kid that is cooking without an adult surpervising them? I can understand not supervising the 14yo but the 3 year old is the very definition of neglecting your child.
I do agree that the husband is not guilt-free either, although the situation could have been easily avoided by the wife. :|
@@Skullost he didn't bro had headphones on while being slumped my question is how the fuck a 3 year old is even close to 14 year old cooking and where was their mother?
@@cosmicchad4752the husband literally valued his sleep over his child's pain. At the end of the day, he's the ONE in the wrong. Not the mother. She did everything right in the situation. Do you not realize that something like that can happen in less than a second. The kid probably ran by a bumped the pan, spilling oil on himself. The husband clearly likes his family being in pain because he blamed the wife completely even though he was the one who intentionally ignored his family.
Also do people not realize that plants take a long to grow, so much patience, and just all around responsibility especially if you're a flower or plant collector in some form. Almost like taking care of a child taking care of it daily and making sure you give them proper sunlight (and maybe im not really sure snip off some leaves if you have to).
Taking care of a whole human being? Let's not get ahead of ourselves now
@@monsieur917 it’s a comparison
I mean yea but still the thing the op did was too much
@@gamingwithpankajagarwal6773, ok let me ask u this, a person ask a sibling to look after their house, then the sibling steels objects worths hundreds of dollar’s and tries to sell them on facebook market place, this is bad correct so why is it different for plants that are worth up to $200 and a object worth $200
@@matpainter2164 I mean she could've asked for money back and like refusing to let them in your house was reasonable but cursing them wasn't
Story 1: The OPs parents and everyone else around him was the jerks, especially seeing how his parents tried to committed fraud to get his money just shows how greedy and manipulating they are wow, good on him that he got successful and moved on
Manipulating, yes. Greedy, maybe not. At the end OP says that he's sure his parent would give him the money if he ask about it. More of a helicopter parent want to comtrol their child
@@josiahjacinto4156 No! If there are a few dirty drops in an ocean, is the entire ocean dirty?
I agree with you man
They would sue for emotional abuse if he let them back in
OP should have beaten the snot out of the parents.
"You can't arrest me, I'm dead. Just ask them, I died in an accident in Italy."
Story 3: This guy was so unprepared for a wife and children that I'm almost certain he accidently got transported to another universe where he had a family and just tried his best to ignore them living in his house and continued with the exact same schedule from when he was single
Just imagine if there was a fire while he was locked in there unresponsive!
That doesn't make what you should be asking was where was op while her children were cooking in the kitchen unsupervised why wasn't she watching her children
1) Got forbid man have hobbies and don't want to be disturbed during said hobbies
2) More egregious is for the mom (OP) to let a 3 yo unsupervised while the 14 yo is cooking with HOT OIL
@@PS3PCDJ nah nah nahhhh don't pull that shit. Mum's got some fault but the Dad is a genuine dickhead. Fuck hobbies, I've got hobbies and maintain a healthy work-life balance. Sitting up all night to play games and then getting up early. Just ain't on when kids are involved. For those 18 years your life wholly hinges on em. They didn't ask to be born, least you can do is nut up and be a father figure for 'em. Bro'd end up with more time for hobbies if he slept like a sane person
Sounds like a romcom except where the main character doesn't try to work with the dream reality
If my parents did that first story to me, I’d sue them for everything they had and pursue federal charges.
Story 3: The father could potentially burn to death in a fire because he could not be alerted to an emergency.
And the mother let her children with hot oil unsupervised they are both wrong and dumb
***god to this man*** how the f did u die your wife were screaming at you begging to wake up cause the house was on fire
This guy: I had my headphones on I didn’t notice my skin was burning
Father is a jerk ….doesn’t deserve to be a parent ! Selfish pig IMO
Well he plays stupid games then he would win stupid prizes!!! What an immature loser. Comes home from work just to take a nap and play little kid games all night. Divorce!!! She doesn't have 2 kids she has 3!
Well couldn't you burn to death at night?
Sometimes very rarely I've left my stove on and I wake up from smoke, so I just turn it off, open all windows for 30 minutes and done
Funny the parents of OP in the first story call OP immature as the reason of they basically fucked up his teenage life and potentially ruined part of his future. And have the audacity to keep on harassing him after he turned 18.
He really should just legally ended the family relationship between he and his parents and file a restaining order on them as well.
For the first story: Tell them to wire the money, then use it to change op’s name legally, and erase his presence so they can never find him, since you know; they declared him dead
1st story: So the parents let him get punished by the law, KNOWING he was innocent? Yeah, I wouldn't want to talk with them either.
2nd story: Stealing is wrong. Yes, even if it's from a family member. Yes, even if it's plants.
3rd story: Everyone has the right to take a nap. But your right to take a nap is not a right to seal yourself away from the rest of the world while there's an emergency.
What if the door is not locked previously but abused by the wife or the children for something not important?
12:55 I used to have a basil plant that I cared for, it was five dollars, and I got over a hundred dollars in basil out of it, but when fall hit, it started to die because of low sunlight, and when my mom threw it away, I internally cried, I had that for most of the summer, i cared for it heavily before vacations, and left it In a bucket, with paper towels going into the base of the planter box, and it survived like that for two weeks. Plants are much easier and cheaper to care fore than pets, just sprinkle some water on them once or twice a day, and you’re good. I haven’t shared to many about my little basil journey, but here it is.
Story 1 - He should just file a restraining order. They ruined his late childhood because they falsely accused him for a crime that he didn't commit and gave the actual criminal a slap on the wrist while he gets hit the hardest. The legal death thing was essentially a blackmail, or maybe that seems to me that is blackmailing. I live in America, so I don't know how the legal system works in Germany, but what I think he should've done was go back to his hometown, and tell the judge that he is not dead so he could get the money back with a restraining order that comes with it.
Story 2 - He had a right to freak out. What they did was just flat out theft, and her niece and the sister in law should face charges. He intrusted them with his property, and vandalized and stole parts of his property. Whether he was overreacting or not, he has the right to kick them out. The "My Aunt said it was ok" is not something to brush out on. She committed a crime, and her aunt should've stopped her for it. As a consequence, they should face charges or face some legal penalty.
Story 3 - It's kind of a grey area. The husband has the right to relax. I think the wife and the husband should talk this out civilly.
Edit: I changed story 3 cause the first 2 stories got me a little too angry.
Restraining orders are pretty hard to get in Germany (much harder then in the US) and it was even a lot harder
The parents actually helped him by removing them from his life and he was allowed to get his doctorate as he enjoyed that. They helped him but not in the way they meant. and the $50,000 or whatever is nothing to someone with a good job and a doctorate.
Nah. If he was neglectful for taking his nap and not having that interrupted, then she is indeed neglectful by not supervising her kids properly as well. Her daughter is 14 years old, so she has likely known him for a little while. Why she would not learn how to drive is beyond me, honestly. Unless she is the type of person a certain family member of mine is as well and asks for loads of stuff she could easily do herself.
@@actuallyasim I have a hard time seeing the guy who is mainly protective of his naptime and obviously does not care to bother or be bothered while that happens, as controlling or anything. She also said that the locks were an addition after she woke him up multiple times. While she said it was for "valid reasons" these were not given and could merely be that she didn't want to wait for him to be awake again to ask him something. This is likely a kind of "Boy who cried wolf" story.
@@CidVeldoril maybe the keys were in the room with the husband
Story 2: you had every right to, my parents are deep into growing plants and I see the amount of work it takes to nurture them. I have a hobby myself which is my car, if I gave it to my relatives to watch for it, and then when I come back I see it parted out, I'd be pretty pissed too.
the parents in story one should have gotten in legal trouble for framing the op for the car incident, lying about him being missing, lying about him being dead and probably more from what i know about police protocol, at least in America
The same laws apply in germany too, just afaik not before the 80s. And in difference to the US, there is a clause here that states you can't be tried for things that werent illegal when you did them.
@@trippyparrot9281 usually criminal laws aren't retroactive in the US either.
@@kerfluffle3781 the is always, not usually, but then the government likes to do it all the time by reinterpreting the laws to claim it was illegal back then too.
Story 2: You're not overreacting. It's normal. To have something you love dearly get destroyed... It's a very painful feeling. And it hurts even more when they don't understand how important it is to you.
Story 2: I would sue them cause the op mentioned that they were prized and expensive and the sister in law tried to sell them for money and they literally killed,butchered and destroyed them completely
Story 2: I can completely understand why op flipped out. When it comes to plants it takes a lot of dedication and time for them to grow. It can be really devistating when something that you put your sweat and tears into be destroyed. Might be an exaggeration but it’s like losing a loved one
As someone who specifically breeds and due to work engineers plants, harming them can either be as little as 15euro in replacements or 3000 so yhea I have a little indoor garden in my house and the only person allowed there is me for obvious reasons.
My mom just started planting for only a couple of months but even I can understand the amount of dedicated she put in for every single plant she have.
One of the plants mentioned is an Albo Monstera. It's a slow growing plant that when mature sells for around US$10,000. Even small cuttings are commonly over $100. That being a single plant in OPs collection, I can only guess how valuable any of the others could be.
Honestly for me if it is a hobby then it clearly means something to the person, people think just because it is a plant, pet, origami or whatever that it's not a big deal, the reality is if you loved that person then you would know not to mess with their stuff, especially their hobby / past time.
You are basically admitting that you don't care about them.
Their hobby might not be important to you, but what if they ruined your hobby?
Does it not matter because it's not something they enjoy?
Some people really care for their plants as if they where children
Story 1: he needs to file for a restraining order on top of no contact.
He also needs to remove them off anything else legally attached to him
He needs to look into legally divorcing his family, totally removing all legal connection to them.
Story 2 is DEFINITELY not an over-reaction. Many of the plants OP mentioned are SUPER expensive and even a single cutting would go for hundreds. The cuttings stolen from the monstera albo alone could be thousands stolen and even more in damages as many plants won't survive a severe cut. Some of the plants OP mentioned aren't too expensive but the size he said (eg. the golden that climbed the staircase) would easily push it to the hundreds or over the thousand mark even. It's hard to make an estimate without info but the mother and daughter could easily have stolen/destroyed $5k-15k worth of plants.
should as hell reported it as a robbery then
Wow. I was only guesstimating around 2k!
There's also context. These plants weren't destroyed because the plant sitters made a mistake and killed them by screwing up the instructions.. This could be a forgivable offense. Obviously you would never let them near your plants again but forgivable nonetheless. This however was willful destruction and theft. This is on par to selling someone's pet.
@@RequiemPoete more like stealing the heirloom silverware!
@@elteescat I'm going to still go with pet. The silverware might be important dye to memories you associate with it. But there's something to be said about taking a living thing and nourishing it, helping it grow that forms a very special bond. Clearly not like a parent/child, but still protective and responsible. A good chunk of this guy's anger is redirected self guilt because he feels he let his plants down when they needed him to keep them safe.
2nd story: buying select plants can be vary expensive.
You can get a random plant from a store that might be 30-40 dollars, but if you correctly identify it and resell it it can be way more valuable, if you can keep it alive and healthy while you wait for a buyer.
If she needs to refill a stairway with a particular plant it might be a thousand 65 dollar plants, 15 steps.
Story 2, My drama teacher has named all of her plants including one of them, Jamal, which is over £200, so if this happened to her she would probably find a way to order a drone strike on their houses.
Story 2: We (couple, 2 kids) were going out of town for more than 2 weeks and didn't know anyone who could water my wife's plants regularly. I had a stroke of genius. I kept the 12 plants around the water tap in the balcony and tore long thin strips of cloth from an old cotton sheet and tied one end to the tap with twine and led the other ends to plants. I tested the arrangement by letting the tap open a trickle and was really happy when the strips got wet all the way till where the other end was pushed into a pot. We left early next morning after checking the arrangement was OK.
When we came back, the balcony looked like a mini forest with the "24/7 drip irrigation" encouraging every plant to grow!
I read the genius part and thought "is he being sarcastic or did he actually had a genius idea"... Welp, your a freaking genius! I would never in years thought on that. Things to make note for sure.
@@Canalbiruta Thank you. Yes, it really worked. And I thought it was a genius idea AFTER it worked so well!
Another thing I saw I’ve no idea if this works now but supposedly before you leave take say a week to test but supposedly if you leave a water bottle upside down near the roots with some of beads that absorb water (plant safe of course) the water only comes out as needed (I don’t think this would work for all plants especially if they like dry atmosphere I hope you get what I mean
@@pixiesanchez9195 Good idea for a short break. Must try it.
But we were only coming back after a fortnight
1st story needs a lesson from pro revenge. They really tried to ruin his life by declaring him dead like that and lied about the crash presumably to a judge.
And not just on them but the one who actually did the accident and everyone else that protected him and the psycho that did the evaluation for his drivers license since no remorse for something didn't do makes op unfit to drive.
@@kisstune I agree. It's bullshit that they all pinned it on an innocent person. It's blatant corruption.
The plant story is not an overreaction, because, if they are valuable enough plants they cutting can be INSANELY EXPENSIVE
True
and sad cuz u cant repair plants
Plus, they actually sold them, so it wasn't like they treated them incorrectly, they cut them to make money out of someone else's property... I'm sure that was made the OP go overboard...
Exactly.
And some plans can not stand to be cut too far down either and can take years to grow up again.,
If they do not simply die after a short while.
And what they took was theft. When someone says they will give you cuttings, they alone do the cutting.
To that man, those houseplants were truly special to him. Imagine this, it would have been like coming back home to find your beloved dog chopped up by supposed 'family' and sold for parts.
#2 Considering many rare plants can equal cars in price, I'm not supriced at her reaction. Imagine owning 35 nice cars and returning home to them completely stripped down and the parts sold...
Story 1: I think he should just ignore his parents and never talk to them again, if they continue doing shit to find him, legally remove their ability to make any sort of contant with him
This guy needs to file a restraining order from his parents.
I’m 14, the same age as the niece, she may have been influenced by her mother, but she’s beyond old enough to develop her own thoughts and figure out what’s right and what’s wrong, she shouldn’t blame her mother, she needs to own up to what she did
The husband in story 3 has a good argument like you left a very young child under the supervision of a 14 year old
Not really. When I was 14 my parents would go on dates and I would be in charge because I was responsible and old enough. I a lot of people think "oh 14 is so young!!" but they are one year away from being 15 and they can get jobs, drivers permits, etc. It's tough for teens because people are constantly saying "your too old for that!" while at the same time saying "your too young for that!". Also I have spilled oil on myself at 17 (it landed on my pants so I was okay.) Another thing is that the OP can't watch her children every second of the day she has stuff to do, and the child probably wandered into the kitchen to see what she was making and it was terrible timing.
There is no way the husband is in the right here, he literally goes home, locks the door, sleeps for hours and gets up when the children are probably almost about to go to sleep. they hardly ever get to see their dad. He is acting like a teenager and is super irresponsible. its okay to nap after work but having your earphones in and locking the door is irresponsible, especially because he's a father. what if the child drowned or got crushed by dresser? what if they all died because of something falling on them? he would just be asleep not hearing their screams and basically leaving them for dead. What if there was a fire? they tried to warn him but the door was locked and he could not hear them? they would have to leave knowing the husband doomed himself.
if the husband acts like this he should NOT be a father.
@{InsertPenName} You didn't get tye full message of the video then. They constantly woke him up to bug him about stupid shit that could have waited till after he got his nap in. He wouldn't have felt the need to lock the door if they weren't constantly waking him up.
@@cybermainstream 14:00 "The kids and I would sometimes wake him up for serious reasons" never mentioned stupid stuff that could have waited.
If someone ripped something I love apart to sell online, I would turn them into art… with a bat.
For story 2, I completely understand. Growing plants, especially rare exotic plants, takes a lot of time and effort. With as many plants as he had, it's on par to having a couple pets. The best comparison I can give, to explain to someone is they are like personal art work, that you keep adding to little by little, just to have someone rip it up. Car guys especially will understand the feeling, because it's like building their dream car, then someone comes with an angle grinder and starts hacking off parts and selling them.
Something like this has happened to me before. I live in an apartment building with balconies. I asked my neighbours above and to my side to allow me to string my passion flower between all of our balconies, to make a green awning for our building. Everyone loved it. I also have friends that smoke and so would smoke on my balcony. After a few months, my neighbors started telling me that they thought something was wrong. The ends of the vines stopped growing and they said leaves were falling off. I thought I'd done something wrong with the care and started checking the pot, to make sure it wasn't water logged, which can kill the roots. I was horrified to not only find my friends had been ashing in the pot, but there was over a pack worth of butts buried in the pot. I tried to save my passion flower, but lost the plant and didn't have the heart to try again. My neighbours were heart broken. I showed my friends what they had done and they said they didn't know and it was no big deal. So I screamed at them. Autism can really get the better of you sometimes. They offered to replace it, but I said only if they were willing to train it and care for it. They didn't.
My condolences that's must be infuriating
I don't think autism was the reason you lost with them... I would do just the same.
@@Canalbiruta Thank you. That makes me feel a bit better about how I handled the situation.
@@rollingwebs5224 Ya. It was a couple of years ago and I think this year I'm finally ready to attempt it again.
I feel terrible for you
As a plant parent who has 100+ plants i’d be livid! A majority of the plants mentioned go for a LOT of money, many I myself don’t have due to just how expensive they can be. A Monstera albo can be anywhere from $100 for a single node and $1000 for a mother plan of average size. Cutting that plant alone and selling it would be enough to call the cops, from the sounds of it they stole well over $1000 worth of plants. I would sue! The SIL giving the money that she made off selling OPs plants won’t do anything! It won’t bring OPs plants back to they’re original glory and it wouldn’t teach those thieves anything! (she didn’t even offer that money to OP!) But I’m sure being arrested for theft and destruction of property would.
Never in my life would I plantsit for someone and then go onto butcher their plants just because they said “you could have some cuttings”. Last time I checked you get paid AFTER plantsitting, the fact that OPs niece thought that it was fine to do that after OP said she would get cuttings for watching them then doing it well OP was away is extremely entitled brat behaviour, but seeing how the SIL acts it’s pretty easy to see where the kid gets it from.
I seriously hope OP calls the cops and has the entitled SIL arrested that would also teach the niece that you’re actions have consequences. They should not get off the hook for this and honestly that would be a hill to die on! The SIL and niece obviously feel absolutely no remorse for what they did and clearly they’re idiots if they thought OP wouldn’t notice or care about what they did.
The only person I feel bad for in this situation is OP. The fact that Her brother noticed that his wife and daughter were bringing home large amounts of plants and instead of calling or texting OP to confirm she was actually ok with it “auntie said it was fine” was good enough for him. OP even said in the beginning that her family knows about her prize plants means he was not oblivious to the fact that these plants are worth money. (regardless of if they were worth money or not it’s very obvious that OP cares about her plants and that’s all that should matter) He did do the right thing by bringing back the ones that weren’t sold yet and apologizing but that doesn’t fix what they did and he’s still partial to blame for not telling OP as soon as he noticed. Than to say “family means not holding grudges” is bs, I would have told him his daughter and wife are no longer considered family, then thrown the SILs words back at him “what’s done, is done” after all
I agree that the SIL should get some sort of legal consequences, but definitely not the niece. it sounds like this kid was genuinely interested in plants and respected her aunt as a mentor until her crappy mom used her as a pawn to make money for herself. the mom asked for the price of the plants, not the kid.
this kid had NO authority to get her mom to stop, she was fourteen, barely even a teenager. when you are that age your parents have a lot of control over you, both with rules and psychologically. what the heck is she (as a fourteen year old) supposed to do in this situation?
I think this mom is a sick individual not only for stealing, but also for sabotaging a relationship that was clearly important to her daughter.
I thought that they accidentally destroyed them, but to find out that they did that for money, I think your reaction is fine
Story 2: She should file charges for theft.
For the first i would meet them but just to cut ties cleanly, that way there's no regrets when they pass away, otherwise you might end up regretting not talking to them. Ive heard of people who also had horrible parents but most of the time they say they regret not having that last conversation.
For the second, yeah the op did overreact but who wouldn't when something so precious to yourself is destroyed, the little girl probably was only following what the mother told her to and thats why she cried, the mother being the adult is the one who should take all the blame and not be forgiven, and for the niece maybe just apologize for taking your anger on her too, we have to remember that most kids are not mentally mature to figure out some stuff.
For the third i understand the husband wanting to have his free time to sleep and his hobby, but if either of those causes trouble to those around you then thats a problem, specially for a grown man with kids and a wife, like come on dude your family comes first and if you really need the sleep, then reduce the gaming time or just have some days where you play and others for your family, but honestly what that family needs is counselling because if the guy was more bothered about his stupid lock then his injured son then he is both a terrible person and a worse father.
So for some more context the daughter knew what she was doing. She was getting taught about plants, previous cuttings had 'went missing' before and she had posted them on her insta claiming they where hers. She was building up a one time business.
@@monkimallow oh of if thats the case the yeah the kid is also in the wrong. The brother should ay least have the respect to the op and force the wife and daughter to pay
@@ghostly_number Also look up on the plants in the story, they're not cheap.
They basically committed vandalism and theft.
If anyone declared me legally dead to take my shit, I would pursue federal charges for fraud and embezzlement. Oh, and sue the shit out of them.
Makes me glad my mom is never like this. She sacrificed everything for me. I'd do the same for her.
Same I love my mom
Who doesnt lol
My mom also sacrificed everything for me
@@_echoyt the guy in the video most likely doesn't
Same
your channel grew so much the last 2 weeks and i´m here for it. you make great content, keep going bro!
Agree
If I were OP I would go NO CONTACT with those narcissistic, leeches (they don't deserve to be called parents). If they called to say "we're dying, make peace with us before we die" I would say "What's the point? You ruined my life for nothing, live with it", then I would hang up.
Hearing him falter over the plant names while trying to make it sound dramatic is hilarious
As far as story 2 goes: Forgive your niece. She was young and probably influenced by her mother to do that. It sounds like you could have a very genuine relationship with your niece and it would be a shame to throw it away forever because she was sent down a wrong path by her mother. If anything she needs more people in her life to show her how to do the right thing.
Well OP and the niece can still hang out and and mend relationships, just not in OP's house anymore since i doubt that they will trust them ever again
Forgive the niece, not the sister.
nah fuck em
@@soniaduran3983 I agree. Just because you are young doesn't mean you should be forgiven. Also OP didn't specify if she told her when she would be giving her the cutting but from the sounds of the story she said SHE (OP) would be giving the niece the cuttings not that the niece should help herself. OP cutting off the niece as well is the consequence of the decisions the niece made.
@@hybridis.coleus9198 maybe, but her mother literally kept telling her it was ok, and seemed to be really pushy about it
Story 1: Good ol' useless Bureaucracy Story 2 needs to seek legal compensation. That is theft and malicious destruction of personal property and emotional damage to top it all off. Story 3: It seems daddy thinks being the breadwinner is all the family contribution needed so she should oblige him and dump his ass. If he spent any time being an actual father then he would know that sporadic child accidents are common and happen often. What isn't common is a husband and father being completely inaccessible while he's within his own house. In OPs case, I can understand not having a license as that shit takes a large time commitment but not being able to drive should have been accomplished a long time ago. My own mother never got one because of work/time restraints and eventually just laziness after becoming a housewife. But she made sure she could and does drive all the time.
But I think the husband can drive that’s why she was knocking and banging on the door for him to bring them!
I know its supposed to be ironic but i find the sentence ' 'I was no longer able to work on my doctorate while being dead.'' extremely funny. Also the megamind meme insert with ''my death was greatly exagerated.''
Make contact, declare them senile, ship them off to care, keep everything.
OP, my advice is for you to press charges against your parents sue them and file a restraining order against them.
the plants is not the problem it was your hobby, your private property. it could be a star war collection, plants or collective baseball cards, its the same they destroy all for what you were working and collecting. time invested. i understand the fury.
Not only the fury was completely motivated by his attachment to his collection, but just the damage mentioned in the video is worth 15k
story 1- "There's no more suffering that forgetting they existing." Screw them, he should live his life like he had no parents.
If you were declared legally dead, did almost have a funeral until they realized you were alive?
"my death was, greatly exaggerated."
Finally a channel where a real person reads the stories. More reaction from the reader would be nice but that maybe isn't how you want to run your channel. Liked and subbed
My god..the title of the 1st Story just already says how far down humanity has fallen...
have a great day.
This man is the origin of the”Did you die?” “I did, but I lived!”
"Family means not holding grudges."
"Family also means not destroying and stealing from relatives."
I have a philodendron climbing around my free standing chimney that I have grown for over 3 years. I would be absolutely mortified if someone cut it back to just the two or three leaves.
I also remember talking to a lady who said she had some lovely trees that hid the fence all around her property. They were really big trees. Her live in boyfriend decided to cut the tops of them so that they were level with the top of the fence. She was absolutely livid and ended up chucking him out. If you are an avid gardener, they are not just plants. They are something you care about and lavish your attention on. It's like mutilating one of your children. Definitely no contact for them.
My parents died when I was young so when I hear stories like these I'm glad that I'm orphan.
Bruh just because ths guys parents were bad dosen't mean everyones parents are! You shouldnt judge people you don't know!
Story One: If OP doesn't want to see them, he should send them a letter telling them so & that what they did was literally unforgivable. They chose to sabotage any chance he had during his developing years of having a normal social life, & used fraud repeatedly in order to try to dictate his life, as such he has no interest in giving them the chance to sabotage his life again or that of his loved ones. As such they will never get to meet his wife & any future grandchildren as OP does not want to subject them to the kind of abuse they put him through.
Story Two: I can understand that OP is upset, but most of that needs to be focused on the Mom, as she's the one who basically decided to ROB OP. I do understand why he doesn't want contact with them again, as they effectively destroyed YEARS of his work. My ruling is slight AH for blowing up at the kid, but it's understandable & the fact that the family just wants him to rug sweep the theft, and that's what this was a THEFT, shows that he should be leery about trusting them around his things & SIL MOST CERTAINLY shouldn't let back in his house EVER, the kid just sounds like she was dumb & believed her Mom maybe she can EARN back forgiveness but it's going to have to be via best behavior on neutral ground. SIL also owes OP all the money that she got from her sales from HIS property, without that no contact is the best solution.
Story Three: Final story, I'm going to recommend divorce for OP, as her husband sounds like he has no interest in actually being an involved parent as he's asleep when the kids are awake & home so he can play X-Box. That's not an active participant in raising the children & only seeing them weekends at most while he lives in a separate house from them sounds preferable to him. OP isn't the AH for removing the lock, she is however for keeping the husband.
Okay. I’mma try to give some reasonable responses to all 3 of these stories.
Story-01) Okay. I wouldn’t tell his to give chase to sue his parents if he dose not want to. He sounds fine where he is and I wouldn’t recommend continuing a needless drama that has settled.
Story-02) I’d say they have are in the right to be mad about the destruction of her property and demand anything that wasn’t sold yet. However I do think it was wrong to blow up in the way she had. The husband of the S.I.L had no way of knowing what was happening was not authorized by storyteller.
But he didn’t deserve to get some of that hate. He tried to de-escalate the situation and calm down the storyteller.
Story-03) the last one is nothing by irresponsible parenting.
The father needed to be available for when emergencies happen and when he was needed, he couldn’t be accessed. He was neglectful of his duties as a father. But I also have to wonder why was a 14 year old left unsupervised with cooking oil?
Why weren’t they supervised?
I wouldn’t say the mother is to blame for the incident, but to leave a 14 year old to operate kitchen appliances while using a substance that can exceed 300 degrees but only needs to be 300 degrees to cause serious harm is nothing to turn into a joking matter.
I think the in the third story only the husband was in the wrong. The sister was 13, old enough to watch a younger sibling.
@@thatonerandomstick3664 yes... watch their younger sibling while also trying to focus on cooking with oil and not get burned herself, I could see a 3 year old come running out of no where and bump into her sister handling hot oil. The 3 year old should not have been in the kitchen, thus there is some neglect on the mother even if the 14 year old is old enough, The mother should have at least been keeping an eye on the 3 year old. To that much I agree with the father on, but he was still an ass and thus deserves the situation he's in now. I can understand though wanting to have time to do the things you want to do and not having that time because of work and other day time responsibilities thus doing it at night when no one is around to bother you is a way to get that enjoyment, honestly this is as much his fault as it is a society that demands long work hours for a livable wage. Wanting a couple of hours to sleep and sacrificing his sleep to have time to enjoy himself should be allowed. But he totally shouldn't be a dick about a family emergency as a result, the lock on the door should never have been there in the first place.
I started cooking food in the kitchen at age 10 when I'm hungry. It's not the mom's fault.
I first started learning how to cook when I was 6 years old and I was safely using the stove unsupervised at 9. There's no reason why a 13yo would not know how to cook. Accidents can and do happen in the kitchen, even when you have 28 years of cooking experience like I do. Just this morning, I accidentally burned myself when my finger brushed against the side of a hot pan.
Declaring a person dead who isn't in an attempt to make them talk to their family is grounds for 2 things:
1. A restraining order
2. A lawsuit for emotional distress, loss of education and earnings.
A restraining order covers all of the family, the use of private investigators, electronic, written, visits by family members etc. If broken, it's considered contempt of court. Punishments include fines and custody.
The university told me I can’t work on my doctorate since I’m dead.” LMFAO 😂
that's some fucked up shit
Congrats on 114K. Your ebullient, infectious & soothing voice draws me to your podcast throughout the day, every day. Continued success; you certainly deserve it.
He can turn that anecdotes from a light-hearted one to something more substantial. He can say his parents sent him to jail, stole from him, kicked him from home, and murdered him. He has to tell people that his parents are no laughing matter.
Wanting to not be disturbed while you sleep, wanting a private place to relax after work,
all of that is perfectly normal and the well-earned prize of a hardworking man of the house.
But you still gotta get up when your kid's literally on fire.
That was messed up, but OP clearly needs to go to therapy
what does op mean
@@coltjohn5292 original poster
@@capitancoolness942 okkay thanks for that i was so confused
Story 1: He should go meet even if it is just to close the books and maybe arrange some form of indirect connect. Maybe to get the money also.
Story 2: If the nieces had done not a good job and the plants died, but they stole. If they took the television and stereo to sell the police would have been there in a shot. You steal form me the very least is your banned from my house.
Story 3: Hell no. He can have the lock as long as she has a Ax to chop open the door if the situation (hopefully never again) she can get into the room. There is always divorce JDTMFA as Dan Savage says.
Story 1;
No
Those "parents" are worthless leeches that have ruined his life time and time again.
For story 3, a lot of indoor locks come with a tool to unlock them from the outside in case you accidentally lock yourself out of a room. Even if you loose the tool, you can usually figure out the mechanic by poking around inside it with a screwdriver.
I got /very/ bored as a kid....
1st: he's not a jerk and should just keep the no contact! OP's parent and everyone around are the jerks!!
2nd: He's not a jerk at all and I understand. He should also sue them and all
3rd story! 50/50!
Story 1: I would just stay no contact. Considering I have seen this situation before with one of my Exgf. I actually successfully convinced her to leave her very toxic family after we broke up for reasons like she can't handle long distance relationship.
I would sue the mother and daughter for stealing thousands of dollars in very rare and expensive plants. No mercy whatsoever.
Great job doing these videos, keep up the great work
Story 3, this husband sounds like a teenager and in no way prepared for the responsibility of children. She should continue with his sole responsibility being financial and move on with the children, hopefully she'll meet a better partner.
Yes, you cannot choose your parents. Found out the hard way. Have not spoken with them for over 10 years. Last year I got an invitation for the 50 year marriage aniversity. Asked a friend if he could help me with something. After I explained how and what he helped me dig a small hole. Took an old picture of them both and placed the invitation in the small pit. Started recording and he lighted it and it was a really nice theraputic fire.
Rented a truck for advertisement which could display a 'movie' on the sides. Parked it in front of the location where the celebration was at and played that video of the burning picture and invitation.
Last thing I heard was that they truly expected I would come to their party. Also, they disowned me. Thanked them for informing me and smiled and moved on to the next topic.
That plant story was sad
Like how did they think they were going to get away with it, its noticable and the niece isnt off the hook, if she loved plants, she should that taking too many clippings off the plants can kill it
Not a jerk. the parents are lucky to be alive. i might have sent an italian to pay them a visit. I would at the very least have no contact. They nearly ruined his life twice.
wait a god damn minute, YOU CAN MAKE PEOPLE LEGALLY DEAD?!
welp this is a good news to me
that guy needs to sue his parents for them declearing him dead
"Hey so you can't work on your doctorate since you're dead." "But you can see me standing right here in front of you, right? Having a conversation?" "Look I'm only telling you what I see on the sheet."
Could OP from the first story have sued his parents for everything they have? At least get a restraining order for conspiracy to conceal a felony?
Edut: I'd make contact, with an axe to at least one knee cap, each
OP in story 2 needs to sue. They purposely destroyed his plants and sold them for money. That robbery, and with how expensive the plants are, that’ll be classified as a felony.
Story 2: Sister-in-law seems to be a greedy thief. The niece was only 14 years old and could not have stopped her mother. OP should at least have talked to her before banning her from her house and life.
I think in the second story he was overreacting like 5% but still quite a big deal for your precious things to get destroyed like if somebody destroyed the years of collecting of my Pokemon cards i collected it as a kid Imma be as mad as him
It's theft. They were in put in charge of looking after valuable assets. They then used that opportunity to steal from OP and sell them for profits.
So not only did they fail in there orginal duty to care for the plants, they took advantage of OPs trust and used familiar bonds to steal from them and try and get away with it.
I would say that they made mistakes but its been like 25 years of no contact. I think they learnt their lesson so now contsct would be good for both really
"Family" does not treat you like a kind, loving person who is a human being would, then demands that you forgive and forget and NOT act like they hurt you badly. What kind of monsters do you have in those families? LAWYERS would have a field day with these lawsuits, and I hope you get JUSTICE someday.
With parents like that, who needs enemies
Story 2: She should’ve been given all the money made from her plants in addition to everything they had left. They are dirty thieves.
Lady with the oil is just trying to blame shift because she wasn’t paying attention
For that last story…you don’t get to have peace and quiet when you have kids.
Story 3: Kind of a weird grey area, because if they had respected his right to sleep, he wouldn't have put the lock on the door. And if they hadn't continually woken him up for "serious things" he might also not have ignored/began putting in earbuds. Don't cry wolf too many times I guess.
You can't be serious, right? Right to sleep? He only did that so he can play video games all night, which I guess is fine, but this guy has kids. Anything can happen. Serious situations arise, it happens. This guys clearly too immature to put his family first and instead gets pissy cause he got woken up from his nap. What if the neighbor wasn't available? What if his child died? Who would the police see as being neglectful? Not the mother trying to do everything she can, that's for sure. The wife needs to divorce that man child, FAST!
@@sarahgimas You gotta have some serious issues if thats all you heard from that story. Its literally crying wolf and getting to deal with the consequences. You have no idea if this man has sleep issues, or if the "serious reasons" are stupid as fuck. Grow up.
If someone declared me legally dead in such a way I would understandably have similar feelings for them!!
"Sorry but your dead so you cant study here" -University
Man, for that last one she isn't a jerk and needs to file for divorce ASAP