Patti LuPone says Barbra Streisand was Too Young for Hello Dolly | WWHL
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ม.ค. 2022
- Andy Cohen asks Patti LuPone to choose between pairs of actresses to see who she thought did a better job in that Broadway role.
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Love the “what about patti lupone” 😂
So brilliant !!!
Same! Lol Though they were shady for asking that sunset boulevard question considering Patti's fraught history with that show.
shoulda done it w/ annie get your gun too.
Every time she's interviewed she's talking about another actress. She's had a prolific career. Let's talk about her career.
You're right, of course, but I don't think that conversation could happen on this show. Andy is messy so as soon as he discovers an actor is willing to be brutally honest for him, he exploits it as much as possible. Patti gives him exactly what he wants in that regard.
@@jacobskinner3522 it’s become so predictable
Yup. It's just the typical misogyny in the media. Journalists always trying to pit female actors against each other.
You never ever hear a journalist interviewing a Male and asking his opinion on other males. It just doesn't happen. Can you imagine Andy Cohen interviewing Rod Stewart and asking: "Who do you prefer: Elton John or Billy Joel"? See how stupid it sounds asking a man to rank other peers?! It sounds ridiculous...but the media have no problem wasting female celebrities time by asking their "opinion" on other females...trying to stir the pot and cause beef 🤬
@@MaleOrderBride That is very well true, but why does she take the bait every.single.time?
@@JloveLamar true true. Patti shouldn't engage in it. She has started to become more famous recently for her bitchy comments than her own singing.
All female celebs should shoot down these types of questioning and spin it back onto the interviewer. She shoulda told Andy she is not here to talk about Barbra or Bette or any other woman not in the room right now. Yes.
Barbara may have been too young but she played the hell outta the part and gave an amazing performance
Barbra Streisand has herself said that she was too young to play Dolly.
And NO ONE ever sang it better. That counts for a lot in a film.
Meh
Streisand's Dolly won me over 100%. My fave.
Hilarious. Amazing singing. Overall performance was spot on, my opinion.
I saw Channing's Dolly live in Pasadena, CA. She was iconic. Yes. Streisand's youth, voice, humor, all totally 1st rate. Amazing acting job for such a newbie in The Industry.
Barbra says the same thing about herself! She was under contract and had to do it. So she came up with the Mae West imitation version of Dolly, and sang the Hell out of the score.
No, she was under contract for 'Funny Lady', not 'Hello Dolly'.
As the other person said she did not have to do dolly She was not under contract. But the producers did not want Channing. She had her screen test with Thoroughly Modern Millie and they didnt think she could be watchable and listenable for a 160 minute movie. they were right.
It was also supposed to me more in line with The Matchmaker. But that didn't happen when Gene Kelly came on as director. He had a very traditional, old fashioned Hollywood musical. And casting bully Walter Matthau to play her love interest also soured it for her.
@@davegallagherfaith4923 I actually thought Streisand was sensational. She brought what is really a pretty boring show to life. And her singing at that time was phenomenal.
The show has a beautiful message and a simplicity that speaks to the human spirit. The movie, is overblown and gigantic.
Streissand had the star power to make that movie possible in the 1960s
Barbra is the standard that's why everyone is always compared to her. Lol.
If only for the sheer joy of having Barbra Streisand and Louis Armstrong immortalized singing together on film, any other criticism of Hello Dolly is worth it.
Barbra sang Dolly like no one else ever could! She is a gift in Hello Dolly!😢
I know. I loved her in musicals- her age didn’t matter.She was such a talent - even when being matronly for her role. I don’t think people remember what a phenomenal talent she had in Funny Girl and Hello Dolly. I was just a kid but I did think that she was the greatest star I’d ever seen!
Barbra has said the same thing about herself!! There is no way she is putting the queen down. Y’all chill.
It wasn’t really a good movie but she was still good for what she did with the role
The fact that she chose Reba McEntire, is brilliant. Love Patti
I can't believe she hesitated for even a fraction of a second on Carol Burnett as Miss Hannigan. She was BRILLIANTLY funny in that role!
I first saw Patti on Broadway as Evita. Amazing. I agree with her choices, but Streisand is the only reason the movie is enjoyable today. Yeah, she was too young, but it’s not like Dolly is a realistic picture, where every element has to make sense. Streisand brought verve, magnetism, and her incredible voice to the role. It’s hard to imagine three hours of Carol Channing….way too much for the big screen.
Helas that is true.....no producer in his right mind would have cast Carol Channing in the film, Streisand was a world famous star and Channing completely unknown outside the united states...I love her but outside of the theatre tbe caricature was just too big...
Love your comment
You're right!!!!!!
We can all agree that Streisand was too young. Even Streisand agrees she was too young. But so what? She sang the hell out of it. And she sang it about 10000000% better than Carol Channing ever could have, even if they'd done it thirty years later and digitally corrected her voice. I've seen Channing on stage and she was great fun, but nothing about her stage charisma - NOTHING - ever really translated to film or TV, on which she somehow always appeared like a clownish parody of herself.
@@joshdrayton1230 none of them could sing as good as Barbra Cher, Liza, Bette, Diana, Linda rondstadt none……….
And the new West Side Story is amazing....and I LOVE the original and didn't want this remake. But it is well worth seeing.
100%
Yeah but a new generation will discover it this way....🤷🏽♂️
It's undeniably brilliant
The new version of West Side Story is wonderful, and no brown face like in the original. Plus the new version has Rita Moreno too and this time with no brown face.
Patti likes to speak her unfiltered mind and is entitled to her opinion but Barbra devoured the role of Dolly. Her singing was at its best.
The only reason people still watch and enjoy Hello, Dolly! is because of Barbra. Her youth, beauty, glamor, humor and sublime singing attract audiences of all ages in a way a middle-aged actress from that era never could have. Yes, she's too young for the poignancy of the character's "last chance at happiness," but it's a small price to pay for everything else she brings to the role.
actually when the movie came out, you're dead wrong the culture wasn't so obsessed age wise for these types of entertainments. also notice in the recent revival audience had no issue with Midler, Murphy, Peters, Buckley playing the role..
With due respect and admiration, Bette is old. Donna Murphy is old. Bernadette Peters is old. Betty Buckley is old. Americans have always had a distain for older people. They still do. Golden Girls worked because they were all old biddies. Dreamgirls worked because they weren't.
Barbra was 27 years old when she played Dolly, which by 1890s standards would already have put her in the "over the hill" category. Life expectancy was shorter and childbirth certainly became more dangerous - so the idea of her looking for her 'last chanc'e at happiness is not so far fetched.
i watch it for the whole cast, there are many great supporting roles, but I respect what you say
Love that patti isn’t afraid to hurt feelings in this day and age
Is it ever wrong to hurt someone's feelings then?
Lol you think Ms.Barbra pays attention to any of this mess. Delusional
@@thangvuong9196 It doesnt matter if she pays any attention or not - that's not what is being discussed. The point is why say anything mean of this nature outside of being a theatre critic. These "X vs Y" games are just done to incite a bit of tension and there's no need. There are far more entertaining games - i've noticed Andy is doing more of these types of games recently.
@@thangvuong9196 - Streisand herself has stated recently that she was way too young for HELLO, DOLLY! She was in her late 20s playing the role written as a middle-aged widower. Patti’s assessment has been shared by millions for decades, including Streisand.
There’s a difference between being bold enough to tell some truths regardless of who gets hurt, versus just being a horrible person with zero tact or class. Patti is the latter. If you “love” that about her, you might be one too.
Patti won me over with her Carol Burnett choice- great call!
however you know she would have chosen Dorothy Loudon over Burnett I'm sure
@@JG-uu1oj Possibly- Loudon was great of course (judging by the cast album), but Burnett put her own spin on the role, and hit it out of the park.
@@slc2466 don't agree
Saw Patti, with a cabaret act, in Cincinnati years ago. Very good!
Streisand signed, at the time, contracts for 3 films...Funny Girl, Hello Dolly, and On A Clear Day....three different studios (Columbia, 20th Century, Paramout) for $1 Million apiece, which at the time was big money....Beverly Hills Homes at the time went for under $100K, and a Rolls Royce was $13K. She was the toast of Broadway, but her screen presence in her original 1965 TV Special My Name is Barbra, demostrated that the camera loved her, and she knew how to use her talents with it.
I was waiting for the Madonna Shade!!! Lol
Came here for this comment!!
Of coursre Streisand was too young. Walter Matthau was twice her age! But she had the musical chops to give the songs what they needed. And she was Box Office Gold at the time.
It was killing her to say BERNADETTE for Into the Woods lol
Yeah, when we talk about My fair lady, we talk about Julie Andrews, not anyone else.
That is a little sad because Audrey Hepburn really was wonderful in the film.
You DO like to put your guests on the spot...in a fun way - I love it...thanks for this.
Andy really chose violence bringing up Glenn again 💀 a messy old queen 😭
I like the fact she doesn’t dodge picking her choice each time. Only on Ethel and Sutton did she pick both and she explained why, and she passed on Glenn and Diahann, okay, can guess why. I think I agree with all her choices. Streisand was cast in Dolly to carry the movie and the budget, and even she failed to do that at a time musicals were struggling, Carol Channing wasn’t a big enough cross-over star.
Dinah was stunning, but no one can beat Glenn in Sunset Bvd
@@meadow9441 It was supposed to have been her.
I honestly as much as I love Carol, I wonder how her performance would have transferred to the screen as she would not have altered it for the different medium..I know she was incapable of altering(meaning-'wouldn't') it on stage
@@JorgeAl Well I think Gloria Swansons version of Norma Desmond is totally iconic!
But I would love to see Bette playing Dolly...I hate that Broadway is so far away!
Not the Glenn Close one 👀
No one cones close to singing the score like Barbra.
Barbara was great as Dolly. Attractive and could sing the crap off of the songs!
I love Barbara in hello dolly
She is SUCH an incredible performer, that Patti LuPone. And so pretty!
👀
What was she going to say about Jennifer Holliday? I wish she hadnt been cut off.
Barbra may have been too young for the original concept of Dolly Levi (Carol Channing), but she made it her own, in her own way, and she was FABULOUS! The movie version was Gene Kelly's masterpiece - acting, singing, dancing, set design and costumes. I've watched it countless times, and it needs to be telecast every year as a Christmas holiday extravaganza! It's just that wonderful and timeless.
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Wow, I gotta see the Reba version of Annie, Get Your Gun now. If Pattie LuPone approves, must be the real deal!
Streisand was not too young by her appearance. She looks just like the author originally intended. His description of Dolly was "Dolly is of that undefinable age, somewhere between 28 and 40 when you cannot tell exactly how old a woman is." She was made up perfectly and she did not look too young for Matthau and she looked a lot older than her costar Michael Crawford....who was the same age. The press in the 60s was just in hatchet mode after Julie Andrews did not star in My Fair Lady and an even worse casualty was Sweet Charity since the media went after the casting of Shirley MacLaine with daggers while the fabulous Gwen Verdon was WAYYYYY too old to play the part on screen She was 46. 46!!!
Ruth Gordon, for whom Thornton Wilder wrote the part of Dolly Gallagher Levi in his play The Matchmaker, was in her late 50s when she first played the role (1954). It is however true that if she had played it in the earlier, unsuccessful version of the play, The Merchant of Yonkers (1938), she would have been in her early 40s. But the contrast between older and younger generations is a central theme in many of Wilder's plays, and Dolly is definitely on the older side, just as Irene Molloy is on the younger.
I thought Barbara Streisand was wonderful in all things she did!🤺💐
Yes, Barbra Streisand is wonderful except for the stupid minds of people like you
Reba was exceptional in "Annie, Get Your Gun." I wish she had recorded the full soundtrack album.
I agree!
Comparing apples & oranges, stage & film, different generations & technology, singers & actors and combinations of all the above. Still a cute video. Love the Reba response. Thanks for keeping the interest in Broadway alive.
These two actresses are fabulous 😀
I wanted to hear what she was about to say about Jennifer Holiday!!!! Dang Andy !!
I know I did too
Cynthia 😂
Everybody knows Barbra was much younger than in the original, but it’s not true that it impacted the story at all. I’m the movie she is fantastic, and it never seems an issue.
Hey Patti LuPone, Barbra might be too young when she played "Hello Dolly", but she was so beautiful, amazing and hilarious in that movie.
not surprised that Patti chose J. Holiday in a heartbeat, she did share the stage with her at the 1998 Tony Awards opening number
And Holiday was simply phenomenal in it. Hudson's singing was good, but performance was mediocre.
Jennifer Holiday created that role. Watching those four iconic Divas together on the Tony Awards, it became evident to me that the greatest achievement, singing a difficult song, goes to Jennifer Holiday.
I have so much respect for her
blah blah blah
It would have been fun to see Andy ask about Evita----"Elaine Paige, Madonna or YOU".
Well, of course Streisand was "too young". Her age is public record; if Dolly were that age she'd have been four or five when she married Ephram. I can't think of another actress in a role where that matters less. For one thing, her facial features have a kind of indeterminate 'any age' quality. For another, it's a fantasy musical comedy. Authenticity is the last thing I demand from that genre. Also, although seeing Carol Channing in the Broadway production was a cherished memory for my late mother, no way would I want to lose Streisand doing that score in her amazing voice, and having it preserved forever. I saw it once (years after its release) on the big screen in a retro theater in a college town in the 70's, and that crowd of young long-haired and latter-day hippieish students loved it (of course, they burst into applause when Louis Armstrong made his appearance)
A gigantic talent...but she always seems to have something nasty to say about her peers....
Patti was brave to give her answers!
At least you can understand the lyrics when Streisand sings.
Patti is a good guest she says it all 😺 he should have said Evita - Patty or Madonna? lol 😂
QUEEN MADONNA.
@@mlvc82 aha 🤣
Why? They’ve been down that road before.
Patti never has much to say nice about anyone. When Susan Boyle sang on Britain's Got Talent - she commented on how she didn't hit the notes very clean. I saw Carol Channing on stage and she was wonderful as Dolly.
Patti thinks WAY TOO MUCH of herself, and I find it obnoxious. Barbra has never been egotistical about her talent. If anything, quite the opposite.
Love Patti!
Patti is one in a million- authentic and the real deal. Love her! ❤️
She's awful.
She's Garbage
who is Patti LuPone? She is NOT famous, not even beautiful and nor even gifted and talented like Barbra Streisand......hahahaha who the hell Patti is?
Pandora box?! 🤣
She’s not lying about Barbra.
Barbra was great. The film is basically a cartoon so her youth doesn’t detract. It’s like saying the cast of Grease, being too old, hurts the believability.
tv actors has nothing in comparison to theaters actors...theatre actors are just another level of talent
This isn’t a hot take, it’s true. Barbra would’ve been a really good Dolly in the 1980s.
Babs is a legend but Patti ain’t wrong.
The broadway baby in me is eating this up with a spoon! Lol. I’m going to go watch Patti’s “Don’t Cry For Me Argentina” performance with the sing tear right now!
Lapone was great in Evita. She had Hal Prince directing her. It ought to be noted that Patti could not do eight shows a week. She only did six shows. At twice her age, Bette Midler did Dolly Levi eight times a week. "And I Am Telling You" is slightly more demanding than "Argentina." Jennifer Holliday got eight standing ovations a week
You are not the only talented singer. Barbara was perfect.
I love Patti lupone, but Barbra Streisand tops in my book, Carol Channing, we’ll to each his own
She'll ALWAYS only pick the ORIGINAL STAR ! ENOUGH ALREADY WITH THE SUCKING UP! RIGHT NOW, "NO ONE" COULD EVER REPLACE BARBARA STREISAND IN "FUNNY GIRL" ! CHANNING WAS ALWAYS A CHARACTER OF HERSELF "NEVER" A GREAT SINGER!
There is Barbra, then the other woman.
She recently got grilled because she said Streisand was far too old to play Madame Rose in a remake of Gypsy. She was dead right of course. However, like she says here, Streisand was far too young for Dolly Levi. Streisand should remake Dolly now. She'd be perfect.... LuPone is the greatest Broadway dame of them all....
Really? Playing Dolly again at the age of 80+ would not be wise! Who would play Horace?
I can only imagine that when somebody said to Patti LuPone's face she should play any character Dolly Levi's age, it was the biggest - and likely the final - mistake THAT person would ever suggest to Patti LuPone's face....Until Cynthia Nixon dared suggest she play Norma Desmond.
Patti is brutally honest
And Patti LuPone was too shit for Sunset Boulevard on Broadway (she was also the worst Fantine I ever saw) and the performance I saw of the 2019 company revival in London's West End which she was in was so awful that by the time I got home I received an email from the theatre indicating that the ticket price had been refunded in full due to the standard of the performance-an unheard of move
Patti in her Prime COULDN'T COMPARE to BARBRA in Her Prime.....and that's Why Barbra has had #1 Albums, Box Office Royalty and Multiple Platinum sales.....Patti has had None of that. 💯😍
I agree and Patti is not even famous and talented like Barbra Streisand
I love Barbra Streisand and Patti LuPone. I just wanted to say Patti LuPone may not have a Box Office Royalty or Multiple Platinum sales and #1 Albums . Those maybe what Barbra Streisand has but she and Patti LuPone have beautiful voices!! It doesn’t matter what one person has to make them famous
True, but the soundtrack never sounded better
Even Barbra herself said she was too young and didnt want to do the movie but was pressured into it. lol
Patti is divine.
would have loved to see her opinion on Julie Andrews vs Vanessa Graves in Camelot and Betty Buckley vs Elaine Paige as Grizabella (Cats)
Patti, I was with you all the way! The only two things I would have changed would be an all out for Ethel Merman in ANYTHING GOES and a tie for Julie Andrews and Audrey Hepburn in the movie. (Julie definitely for the stage.)
Even Babs said she was too young but she was under contract
Hands down, Ethel in Anything Goes. She was the one and only original.
She was correct about Barbra.
Barbra was awesome in hello Dolly, patti is jealous cause she wasn’t offered the movie 🎥
@@johncortesi8038 u sound like you don't know what you're talking about and you clearly don't know about musical theater. Patti was like 20 and a no name. She wasn't saying she was bad, she said too young. The character Dolly is an older "spinster" type who knows about life and love.
@@remyfacade Barbra still was excellent in it, that’s what I know!!!
@@remyfacade Barbra looked the part And did a magnificent job! Idc what patti who thinks! She trashes everybody! She’s jealous cause she never got on the big screen bwahahaha
If you think she was correct about Barbra … good for you. I loved Barbra in the movie and Barbra is excellent so what’s the point, really! You don’t have to be old to play an old person. Golden girl Estelle Getty played a much older person and she was excellent! Smash! Boom! Bang! I’m out!
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I always thought the same thing! Patti Lupone is sooooo real. She'll cut you with a comment....and " west side story" 1961 version is among my fav top 5!
I am seeing a lot of negative comments about Patti LuPone , she was asked for her opinions and she gave her opinions.that is all she is doing!
The pass on Glen close vs the other one is a touchy subject for her. She was supposed to do it under contract but they choose Glen instead and Patti went on to sue Webber, and won! ($1,000,000).
Barbra Streisand is the most iconic singer, actress, songwriter, concert and movie producer, concert and movie director, a filmmaker and an author. She is a legendary DIVA..........What about Patti LuPone? Who is she? She is not famous and not even gifted and talented like Barbra Streisand
Patti LuPone may not be famous for movies like Barbra Streisand. But Patti LuPone is a talented and famous Broadway Legend!
No other woman on Earth could play Dolly better than Barbra. She is undoubtedly one of the best female singers of all time. I sense a lot of jealousy within Patti. So sad.
No, practically every critic said that Barb was miscast in the role for the same reason that Patti stated. Barb was too young and beautiful for the audience to believe that her character was a spinster in the film.
It’s all about then voice and Barbra was the best female singer at the time
Glenn Close was BRILLIANT as Norma Desmond! Get over IT, Patti!
Did the intern writing these know the history of Patti and Sunset Boulevard? That was awkward.
Would have been nice to ask Patti to provide some explanation on her choices. Patti knew that Glenn was a good choice for Norma Desmond.
Oh be quite why does she think she’s the Headmistress of Theatre/Broadway so boring ! Streisand is the definitive & no one comes near jog on Patti always casting shade
He didn't ask about Angela vs. Lucy in "Mame."
She's right
Better and Barbra were both amazing
She's wrong. Thornton Wilder, who created the character, says Dolly is "of uncertain age." The story is set in 1890, when it was not unheard-of for girls to marry as young as 12. Rather than dodge the issue, they should have set Streisand's age in that movie as 30: married at 16, widowed at 23 (all too likely an occurrence at a time when people ate crap--and too much of it--and didn't exercise). In those days, 30 was what 50 is now.
As I said above, Wilder wrote the part of Dolly Gallagher Levi for Ruth Gordon, who was born in 1896. If she had accepted the role in its earlier (unsuccessful) incarnation as The Merchant of Yonkers (1938), she would have been in her early forties. When she finally played it in the sucessful revision as The Matchmaker -- Wilder renamed the play in Gordon's honor -- she was in her late 50s (1954).
Did the producers not know about Patti's history with Sunset Boulevard and Glenn Close by association? It was stuck in the middle so innocuously, it should either not have been there at all, or presented in a way that would cause the biggest reaction.
I agree Carol Channing deserved it, but Barbra had the Star power.
Patti was wonderful in Evita, however I don’t feel she would have suited the role of Dolly. Maybe we should ask Dolly Parton!😂
Tbh i think Johnny depp is the best Sweeney Todd. He is the only Sweeney that i sympathize with. He clearly shows how pain can change a person.
Patti Lupone is oblivious
Is it possible the producers aren't aware that Patti famously starred in Anything Goes as Reno on Broadway (her revival cast album is the best, and she'd have won the tony if not for Joanna Gleason in Into the Woods), that she was the original Norma Desmond in the Sunset musical in London, and was famously fired before Broadway, and she was Mrs. Lovett to Michael Cerveris's Sweeney Todd on broadway? And she's even been Annie in Annie Get Your Gun maybe even twice. What an insane group of casting choices to give this particular Broadway legend.
Absolutely. Awkward and embarrassing.
Look at the roles in Broadway shows that Bernadette Peters starred in. Plus Dames At Sea, Off-Broadway. Compare Auntie Name to Mrs Lovett. Thats some range, two Tony's. Plus some other roles in-between. Not bad. (Angela Lansbury and Bernadette Peters each had movie roles. One had a long-running hit show on TV. Everybody knew that characters name.)
AND, as I've recently learned, Patti was offered The Witch in Into the Woods when it was starting. So she has a major history with that role too. They should have done some more, "Evita - Madonna or Elena Rogers", "Mama Rose - Bernadette Peters or Angela Lansbury", "Joanne in Company - Elaine Stritch or Debra Monk", and of course "Old Lady in Candide - Irra Petina or Andrea Martin?" ;)
I think MOST people thought/think Barbra was too young to play that role in the movie (when I was a kid).
Patti...talented and wish she were not so full of herself..at least to come across like that...Andy too
The question was who would you like to see do it... Streisand would be better now with it than she was earlier, because she is older, but come on people ...Have you seen the movie ..Barbra kills it! She was young, but she is playing a younger Widow.. its a fictional story, and they used creative license with it.. No one can come close to singing the score , other than Barbra. Period