Patti LuPone Wasn’t Happy About Bernadette Peters’ Madame Rose | WWHL
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- Patti LuPone tells Andy Cohen she didn’t see Bernadette Peters play Madame Rose in “Gypsy” on Broadway because she was annoyed that she didn’t get the part and explains what happened.
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Half of me wants Patti to guest judge on Drag Race but the other half is sacred for all the queens
Ben Lau Exactly how I feel.
Imagine if she was on the Madonna episode
She should! Her and Michelle are friends (and if you know anybody about Michelle, she is OBSESSED with Patti)
@@idontcare59 seriously oh my GOD?????
Ben Lau omg that would be amazing
This title is so messy lol she wasn’t pissed at Bernadette, she was pissed at the director for not telling her that they gave the part to Bernadette and not her.
She has every reason to be pissed at Bernadette though. Patti auditioned to replace Bernadette in Sunday but didn’t get it, she then was courted to play the Witch in ITW, turned it down for it only to be offered to Bernadette. Then comes the 90s, where Patti campaigned publicly to play Annie Oakley in a Broadway revival of Annie Get Your Gun (even playing it in concert first) only for a production to be mounted in 1999 centred around Bernadette. Then the Sam Mendes Gypsy happened in the late 90s/early 2000s. Then in 2011, Patti wanted to replace Catherine Zeta Jones in A Little Night Music but Trevor Nunn never returned her phone call and offered Bernadette the role instead. I think Patti has always been envious of Stephen Sondheim’s adoration for Bernadette and also that they’ve always been up for similar roles as they’re similar types. But I don’t think they’ve ever had actual public beef. They’ve always been quite diplomatic. You’re right, most of the beef has been with producers and directors but it seems Bernadette has always been part of her many heartaches 😅
@@fountainchain126 wow! I didn't know all of that.
@@fountainchain126 I read that Patti didn't want the Witch in ITW. She auditioned for Cinderella. Which sounds crazy but wouldn't you have paid top dollar to see Joanna Gleason, Bernadette, and Patti in a show???!!!
Matthew Senese she claims she wanted to play Cinderella (can’t really picture that tbh) but they offered her the Witch. I believe she made a number of demands (salary, top billing) which they didn’t want to give her and then when Bernadette ended up doing it she got everything Patti wanted including star billing 👀 Bernadette got the last laugh as well because she announced Joanna Gleason as the Tony winner for best actress that year where Patti was also nominated (and the perceived frontrunner) for Anything Goes...
@@fountainchain126 she has no reason to be pissed at bernadette.. she can and should be pissed at the producers and the situation but its not like bernadette has it out for her and went out of her way to get the roles she wanted. she has no fault in that. and i feel that patti knows that and has no problem with bernadette. she has every right to not like bernadette though or like not vibe with her cause they were always up for the same roles like i dont think theyll be best friends lol but be pissed at her? no
This title is misleading. She has no issue with Bernadette; she has an issue over the way she wasn’t notified the role was given to Bernadette even though Sam Mendes verbally offered it to her first.
Not just verbally, she said there had been letters... bit shady on Sam's part tbh...
I remember when she was doing Gypsy on Broadway, I read somewhere that she was interested in replacing Ms Peters. Arthur Laurents didn't like that version and wanted it closed.
@@patbulfin5459 What you say is true, but Arthur eventually warmed to Patti after actually seeing her in-person. He also liked the idea of getting one over on Mendes whom he had feuded with only weeks earlier. Patti talks all about this in her memoir which I'm currently working my way through, haha!
@@tatemitchell1479 thanks for clearing that up. There's another story that Arthur visited Betty Buckley when she was doing Gypsy. I don't know how he felt about her performance. He told her that the show isn't going to Broadway.
Exactly!
Andy Cohen - you are trying to create drama where there is none.
Color me SHOCKED! :-)
He's MESSY
Andy Halus it’s his * thing * ☕️
That’s his entire career in a nutshell.
unfortunately, it's his job....even though I cringe every time he tries to open a can of worms
Now that was hilarious...I had tickets to see Patti in Company and that morning the show was postponed due to the virus. I don’t think the universe wants me to see Patti LuPone for some reason because I really do want to see her
Allan Cuseo, be patient...the show was amazing in London, good things are worth waiting for.
Lady Seashell Bikini love to see her...maybe we will be in the audience at the same time
@Lady Seashell Bikini Don't get your knickers in a twist. Company is coming back in September with Patti when Broadway reopens.
That Cats comment was definitely a dig at Andrew Lloyd Webber
I'm pretty sure Gillian Lynne is the reason Cats became popular.
But they officially ended their feud. Cats IS pretty awful in any case.
marsbar310 yep I saw the revival twice and loved it the movie wasn’t so great and I wonder why people hated the cats revival so much
Theatre people in general haaaate Cats.
@@oceans80 Not all theatre people. CATS is what made me want to be an actor and get into musical theatre. I love the music the costumes the set and the lighting. Along with Phantom these are my top two favorites
She had no problem with Bernadette... messy tittle
I love Patti. She pulls no punches. Really tells it like it is. 👍🏽💯❤️
I came for Alyssa, I stayed for Patti's shade.
now I'm imagining patti lupone and rachel bloom bonding over their mutual hatred of cats on the set of crazy ex girlfriend
Max Austin haha that was fantastic!
Alyssa Edwards and Patti Lupone are the combination I never knew I needed until now!!!! Patti is ALWAYS shady (but in the best way!) We need to rally for her to be a judge on Drag Race!!!! They can do the unauthorized Patti Lupone Rusical and then she can READ the contestants for filth!!!!
What happened was Sam Mendes had originally thought of Lupone for the role and offered it to her but Arthur Laurents had casting approval. Patti was on his sh*t list because she had walked out on one of his shows years earlier called "Jolson Sings Again" and he vowed she would never play Mamma Rose in New York. Arthur also wanted to cast Bernadette as Rose since she was closer to how the real Rose actually existed. He later did Gypsy with Lupone as a revenge production against Sam whom he feuded with during Bernadette's Gypsy. So much petty drama!
Oh my God, thanks so much - this is so interesting!!
Laurents is notorious catty so this sticks lol.
“okay ms. patti, are you ready to get shady?!”
“yahp.”
Patti hates Cats!! I can die in peace now
She hates Cats? The woman has taste.
I got to see Tyne Daly twice. Amazing! My favorite Mama Rose.
I could watch Patti LuPone all day. Just pure talent and sparkle!
I can't get enough of her reaction and laugh at 03:36 LOLLL! I love her!
LMAO what an insult to give 1 LINE of song to such an ICON tho!! I mean COME ON!!
@@tatemitchell1479 I know right!😂
Can we just have Patti and Alyssa dishing and send Andy to a time out? Not sure why, but he reminds me of that friend you hide from at the party, hoping they don't ever see you.
The title is erroneous. Patti was in no way pissed of by Bernadette but by the producers and directing team who apparently behaved very poorly to her. But though they are not necessarily friends there is a great mutual respect between the ladies ( Bernadette , Patti, Bette ) and feuds are mostly uncommon between actors. Feuds are more frequent between actor/producer/manager/agent... but between actors/performers we usually know that we're on the same boat so we usually get along just fine ..
The Middler version was was 1993. Cohen should do his research and his math. Otherwise I like him quite a bit. I know she had had a falling out w Arthur Laurents at one point before they reconciled and she did Gypsy. She’s a great talent. I remember seeing seeing her do Pal Joey at Encores Presentation, shortly after the Sunset Blvd. disappointment. She stopped the show with “Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered.” There was a Q&A afterward and she wasn’t even expected to be part of it. But after a few minutes, she rushed out to graciously thank us for our love and support. That’s to me makes her a class act. I loved her memoir also.
They had a falling out, reconciled and did ‘Gypsy’, then had another falling out, and I believe they were not on speaking terms when he died.
You know what's awesome? Patti goes "I saw the Bette version YEARS ago!" Andy is kinda blank faced but the drag queen laughs cause she knows EXACTLY how subtly shady that comment is.
Can u spell it out for me tho? Does that mean she liked it or not? I thought she was just avoiding answering so that it doesnt become big gossip
@@nahbirdie4773 I think it's a subtle dig at Bette's age, and the irrelevance of her production of Gypsy.
@@johndalton3180 Nah, Patti's only 4 years younger than Bette--I *really* don't think any older actress is gonna diss another; they know too well what it's like. I think she was just saying the TV version was ages ago and she didn't remember it.
LOVED Patti LuPone in Hollywood - its my first time seeing her work. She's pretty good :)
Alyssa looks more like Ursula the sea witch
It's Alyssa Edwards MAWAW
Face snatched up .....
I love Patti and Bernadette but Patti in Evita was so amazing that it still takes my breath away
Patti in Evita... one of the greatest performances ever on Broadway ... the free Albert Hall concerts on you tube from Andrew Lloyd Webber, aside from the constant bombardment of charity donation requests, is so disappointing ...when I watched the female singers all I could think is they can’t come close to Patti.
Did you watch the Sondheim 90th birthday? Its on here, Its a different caliber of talent, and Patti is part of it. Baranski, Streep, and McDonald doing Ladies who lunch is about as iconic as iconic gets.
Sam was interested in Patti playing Rose, but Laurents forbid it. He was angry with LuPone after she pulled out of a production of his, over a salary dispute.
Robert Lee, Countertenor I’d have to pull out her memoir for reference. But she mentions it, discussing how ‘Gypsy’ seemed like an impossibility because ‘Arthur Laurents was really, really mad at me.’
Still, Patti’s Rose towers over others
gsolomonla love Patti and her performance was wonderful, but Peters takes the cake for me, no question.
@@boynamedalexxx Bernadette was wrong for the role.
I LOVE PATTI TELLING IT THE WAY IT IS
LMAO Bernie was a great Madame Rose too!
Fadhil Ramadhani absolutely. I think she did the definitive interpretation. :)
So sexy, Bernie and John Dossett had chemistry, a real romance - and you believed Bernadette’s regret, it had bite and bitterness. Loved that “Gypsy”!
She was wrong for the role.
Ms. Lupone was being herself and she was honest. Thee are a lot of snakes in the show business - you thing it is a harmless garter snake and sometimes they become rattlesnakes. Love you Patty - you were wonderful in "Hollywood." Why didn't Andy mention it? If I am being honest I find Andy insufferable these days.
Oh that was funny! Lol
I fucking love her
patti is so irreverent and transparent, i love her
Alyssa and that fan 😂
Patti is an intergalactic treasure.
Isn't Patti from Pose?! She plays the evil woman Bianca rents out the nail salon room for 😂
Love Miss Patti keepin it real, y'all
Daaaaaam Alyssa looks soo good 😍😍😍
Patti is like no other. Tells it like it is and has the mega talent and good taste to justify her every comment. I loved that she hated Cats. I always thought that show only pleased Broadway show newbies who thought they were being entertained by songs that all sounded the same with big production design as a distraction, having no prior experience or knowledge of the Broadway musical and it’s history. Broadway for the simple minded.
So GLAD to hear she hated Cats too! I studied as a dancer and am a full blown Broadway buff and could never understand why I hated it, but I do! So happy to see I'm in good company from one of those ladies who lunch :-D!
It became popular because of Gillian Lynne's choreography, Its just a very odd combination of dance theater and poems about a cat monarchy that runs a death cult. I think if anyone actually understood what was going on it would be a lot less popular, people are mesmerized by the choreography, which the film unfortunately hacked to bits.
When I saw it in London it was fun and exciting. No need to repeat...
I mean, there's a reason why this - the one of the longest running musicals on Broadway - took so long to get a film adaptation.
I saw Cats at the Wintergarden, origianl production .... Flew in from Detroit. I thought "what the big deal" I thought it was nonsense ... all that sitting for one good song. Cats was so overated " I hated it".
@@ricoltmetric8156 Cats is NOT one of my favorite shows.
What a messy title! Nice click-baiting
Patti hated Cats in London, I hated Cats in London, life made 🙌
I saw Patti on Broadway in Evita . She played her like a cartoon character. Her facial contortions were quite unbelievable even for the stage. Don't attack me, it's just my opinion.
Patti is awesome.
Tremendous anecdotal humor out of Patti's entire segment - Andy really on
Andy's game. You can tell when Andy really respects his guest (Patti LuPone).
I fell like Patti just told the ten movie premises, one after the other, i.e. high
drama and brutal show biz callousness. It's not even supposed to exist at
Patti's level. Literally a High-Wire Act and with people plotting just below...
God's, Alyssa is stunning.
I found out that Betty Hutton appeared in an off broadway production of Gypsy and Bernadette Peters played the daughter. Probably in the early '60s. Anyone got any info on that?
It wasn't Off Broadway. It was at the Kenley Players in Ohio, summer theater. If you type in Betty Hutton, Gypsy, on Ebay, a copy of the program should pop up.
I'd love to know how Patti knows/feels about her namesake, Adelina Patti, as I discovered that my great great grandparents were friendly with Ms. Patti.
Oh my gosh! That's such an incredible family connection!!
Something's wrong here - LuPone played Rose in the 2008 Broadway revival. This clip from Cohen's show is years after that. So ... huh?
Alyssa Edwards looked into the camera the whole time, she must have mistaken it for a mirror
Well, that was shadier than I expected...
I saw Bernadette Peters in "Gypsy" and I thought she did a good job. It would have been better if they'd fixed it so she could have played every major female part (whoever was the dominant character in each particular scene), using doubles, mirrors, and other stage illusions.
Always say Madame. It’s Mama Rose!
Madame Rose. They even call her that in the musical.
If you want to start having a regular segment with Patti LuPone ... or a spin-off series, I would NOT be mad.
Or
The REAL Broadway Divas of New York reality / docuseries
Patti!!!!!!!
patti talking normally IS yellow diamond
I want to know her other 2 favorite overtures!
Michelle came for Patti do you guys remember what she said to Gigi
Miss Patti Lupone is one of the shadiest divasss... the original I don't her or them Queen
Our yellow Diamond destroying other people’s worlds. 🙏🏽💎🙏🏽
Patti has always had an EGO like nobody else in Musical Theatre. That’s the difference. She didn’t get that Arthur wanted to tell the story of Rose in a different way than ever before in 2003. He wanted to see Rose in reality as a victim of circumstance, a mother , a beautiful woman who could have done it all if born at a different time. She instead resorted to making her kids successful at all costs. That’s truly what the story of the real Rose was about. A beautiful woman gone mad to make her kids what she couldn’t be. Bernadette did that and was AMAZING. People just didn’t understand that interpretation. They were so used to the fabricated story of Rose. It still never took away Bernies amazing work hence the Tony Nomination. Patti just isn’t that. Patti returned the show to its roots. Patti is the Standard Fabricated Rose. An unusual beauty, Loud, Selfish, Stubborn. The traditional interpretation of Rose loving herself over her kids. It’s why they got her that Tony. They did the 2008 show around Pattis strengths.
Not true. Patti reinterpreted that role to a whole new level. Her memoir, Arthur Laurents' memoir and the NY Times review all attest to the fact that this was a reinvented Rose, a woman who loved her kids but was misguided and simply went too far. LuPone's Rose, like Bernadette's, was sexy, vulnerable and full of pathos. But LuPone also truly shone in the vocal pyrotechnics of the role and in the big numbers specifically Rose's Turn. Peters, for all her virtues, did not have the pipes at that time for those big numbers (her best rendition of 'Some People' is on her Sondheim Etc. album from the 90s - truly astonishing...).
@@fountainchain126 That album is really fantastic. I'd argue that Bernadette is at her peak vocally at that time and she sounds amazing on that record. Her voice never seemed to really have the same dexterity from Gyspy onward, though I've still very much enjoyed her work since then. Her Rose's Turn at the Tony Awards was wonderful. You're right about Patti, though, with the pyrotechnics. My first trip to NYC was to see her in that role and it was unforgettable!
Saw Bernadette once and Patti twice at City Centre Encore and twice on Broadway. Patti’s Gypsy was the way Arthur Laurents wanted Gypsy/Rose to be because he directed himself. Patti was in best voice and Rose’s turn was the total meltdown that it should be. Although, I have to admit that Patti is a bit too shouty for repeat listening on cd, but, live, it was perfect. Bernadette gave a good performance, but, she looked and sounded like she was struggling for breath to hit the notes. Which ended up being a distraction because I kept waiting for her voice to fail.
Great comments. Have you seen the Imelda Staunton production?
@@DistantCousin Imelda Staunton was brilliant as Madame Rose.
I guess I’m in good company - I hated cats
Doesn't understand Madame Rose? She did not say that!
Every Patti Lupone video on TH-cam is her yelling at someone in the audience or criticizing another actor
Omg I'm can't believe Patti hates CATS! How that show ran at The Winter Garden for eons is a mystery to me...meow!
Patti is more of a bitter queen than any queen!
Messy title--Andy doin' too many bong hits, tho.....
Love this video! Patti is totally correct...watched Bernadette play "Rose" on Broadway. She was so weak...So bad for the role.
I like Bernadette. But she was wrong for the role of Madame Rose.
Poor patti, the victim. 😳
I do love Patti but the girl can be catty
Age is doing that....
Shes just telling the truth 🤷♀️
I agree, but that’s kinda the point of this bit isn’t it?
She's said to be very unpleasant!!
It’s refreshing and entertaining . I love it. If people want something else they should watch Anne Hathaway interviews
But...Patti DID play Mama Rose on Broadway...in 2008. Bernadette did it in 2003. How did she have this full conversation acting as if she lost the role forever. She was in rehearsals within 4 years of the 2003 revival.
My own personal, lifelong "Lily Langtree" (Patti LuPone).
Patti just took over - was right in nyc when EVITA hit - it
was electric. 3-mile run that brings you to the glory of Broadway
all lit up. Exhilarating thanks Patti.
Is it bad that I like Betty “Miss Collins” Buckley better?
She lost her voice
@@gsolomonla ??? No she didn't. She toured in 'Hello Dolly' in 2019
@@darreylhenderson702 Did you see it?
Patti can be so full of herself~
can be? when isn’t she!!
Patti saying "Madame Rose" instead of Mama Rose..... And she wasn't tearing up Broadway in Company pre-Covid. It didn't open.
Madam Rose is actually correct, if you go by the actual script. The author, Arthur Laurents (Spelling?) of the show actually stated he disliked the nickname of "Mama Rose" as it's not correct. Lol
"Madame Rose" is correct.
Madame Rose? I've only heard the character referred to as Mama Rose.
Madame Rose is correct. The characters in the musical call her that.
@@JimMac23 You're right. I didn't notice her being called, "Madame" when I saw the show with Bernadette Peters...or maybe I just forgot.
3:15 What are the other two overtures?? Andy should've gotten the tea on that one for us theatre queers
Clickbait title.
Alyssa and Patti together!?
Petty jealousy is unbecoming.
The title is so misleading. Trying to start shit. Smh.
Patti why be pissed at Bernadette it simply was the Director's choice....a bit High School Petty
I don't think she was mad at Peters I think she was more mad at Mendes because he didn't tell her
She always seems so bitter. I can't imagine being around her for more than a minute.
Patty cakes sounds like a royal nightmare
I love Patti's talent,but is there anyone she's not pissed off at?
Right? She's got a problem with so many people. You'd think she'd realize what the common factor is...👀
She’s one of the few who comes off as the problem in her own autobiography. I mean I love her and that bio was such a fun read, but even when I sympathized with her, I felt she created a lot of her own problems and that she had some real entitlement issues.
Her husband and son?
She keeps saying Madam Rose, but wasn't the character called Mama Rose?
People use both interchangeably.
No, she’s called Madame Rose. Mama Rose has been become a sort of nickname but she’s not referred to as that in the script. The author Arthur Laurents, was vocal about it as he hated ‘Mama Rose’ as she was never intended to be called that
She is called "Madame Rose" by the characters in the musical.
Technically the title is correct. It doesn't state that she was unhappy with Bernadette. It states she was unhappy ABOUT Peter's role, Madame Rose.
Background music annoying and distracting. Please remove.
Well, cats is absolutely terrible. Even 0 out of 10 is too much.
Mamma Rose?
No. Madame Rose.
I don’t understand Andy Cohen’s weird, confused facial expressions.
He's looking for MESS
It's the Coke
Patti lupone: no issue with a gender bent play originally written about the struggles of men in their early 30s, but every issue with Bernadette peters.
Bernadette was a terrible Madame Rose. She was wrong for the part.
BIG -bette fan but did not like her at all in Gypsy
I loved Bette in Gypsy. A brilliant performance. You need to watch it again.
Patti just needs to steer clear of talking about Ms. Streisand. Yes she is a Broadway legend, but she is nowhere near Barbra Streisand's level.
I just find Andy a joke
"I didn't understand Madame Rose". That explains a lot lol. But then again she clearly doesn't understand Joanne either and she's played her three times.
gee, seems she lost the lead role in Sunset Boulevard the same way....any wonder why?? Take a hint Patti....difficult to work with much???
bullshit... she is the best. the real deal...
plzzz, I saw her live in concert - people were running for the exit doors before she finished. She's a horror @@marilynmichaels8358
All Patti spews is anger and resentment. Sad.
Patti is a Broadway legend but.... SHE WILL NEVER BE AN IMMORTAL LIKE BARBRA STREISAND!!!
Patti is immortal, and unlike Barbra, she can actually act and play more than one character!
@@MissLizaMay I guess that's why Patti Lupone won an Oscar for acting...wait a minute...
@@MissLizaMay Patti can only play one character- her entitled self!
... Imelda Staunton was the best Mama Rose
If you don't mind completely over-the-top.
If you enjoy someone playing the character angry and unlikable from the very first entrance
I thought she was the worst, by far.
@@SDoesNotKnow Is no one allowed to have separate opinions? I liked Bernadette Peter's the best as Rose, but Patti's was still good. I liked Imelda Staunton as Rose.
“Shhhhh, but don’t tell Patti!”