⚙Gear Links⚙ -BRS 3000 -Amazon: amzn.to/3wcy2dx -Garage Grown Gear: alnk.to/fHlrlfy -SOTO Amicus: -Amazon: amzn.to/49NDgdy -Garage Grown Gear: alnk.to/gp0tgCx -REI: alnk.to/5jkJtcn -Flat Cat Gear windscreen for BRS 3000: www.flatcatgear.com/shop/ocelot-brs/ -Small fuel canisters (4pack): amzn.to/3Wf5lYb -Large fuel canister: amzn.to/4bcExfa -Flip Fuel: -Amazon: amzn.to/3QnTzqv -Garage Grown Gear: alnk.to/gp0tgqT Camera Gear I Use on Trail: -Action Camera: amzn.to/3UhMNoA -Main Camera: amzn.to/3vNYXMF -Main Lens: amzn.to/3vI429j -Large tripod (light and affordable!): amzn.to/3VXMgJB -Small tripod: amzn.to/4aV0qzu -Should strap attachment for DSLR: amzn.to/3VTytE4 -Mics: amzn.to/43VyWaN Some of the links above are affiliate links. Buying things with the links doesn’t change the amount you pay, but helps support the channel since Dose of Dirt would receive a percentage of the sale. Using the links is a free and easy way to support Dose of Dirt so I can continue bringing you great content! 🏕 👉 Help Support AND Shape Dose of Dirt through Patreon: www.patreon.com/DoseofDirt
Having had both stoves for a few years the Amicus goes on more trips. It’s faster to boil in all conditions in my experience. The BRS as you have shown falls apart with the slightest breeze. I do bring the BRS on peak bagging trips or when every ounce counts. I think having both in one’s kit is a wise choice. Enjoyed the comparison.
Great video , My BRS stove finally gave up after a few years of use... so I recently got the soto amicus with the river pot & it's brilliant. I put a spare buff/ cloth in the pot to stop any scratches etc then my tatonka stainless steel 500ml mug, inside that goes a small gas cylinder, amicus stove, lighter, a few liquorice tea bags.. makes a realy great cook set.
Campingmoon has a stove almost identical to the Soto for $25-30 they make quality equipment. I’m glad to see you back, your videos are always great. Thanks.
Thank you for the thorough comparison. We use the BRS but are considering the Soto, so this was helpful. FWIW: My BRS spurts fuel when attaching and removing the fuel canister.
I don't think you can go wrong with either, so it just depends on your usage and priorities. If I was taking kids or sharing a cook kit with someone, I would probably reach for the SOTO Amicus since I'd be taking the 750ml pot! I should have mentioned that in the video!
Thanks for sharing your experience! Yes, with the pots it's an excellent deal! The SOTO Amicus is the only stove that's made me question whether BRS is actually my favorite. It's a solid stove!
This is actually a pretty funny review because my backpacking buddy and I just had a discussion last week on our backpacking trip about these two stoves. I have the BRS and he has the SOTO. I love the comparison, now I'll be able to tell him EXACTLY why my BRS is better ha ha. But seriously, I love the review, and will hate on his stove a little less because it does actually perform better, and when we're talking about small weights like this, we're not ultralighters, so the extra grams for the SOTO really isn't a problem in my opinion. Thanks!!
haha! This is hilarious! Love that you two were having a stove debate. For me, if it's 1/3 the cost, lighter, and almost as good in most conditions, I'll go for that all day long every time!
To not burn my fingers while using my BRS I use a wooden dowel with a saw cut in to end to rotate the stove's wire adjustment. A 3/8" x 4" dowel fits inside my cup that holds my gas and stove.
Great vid. My soto windmaster squeaks out gas every time I fit it to any canister too. Oh, and remove it. Save a gram, waste a gram. Still love it though.
the two canister stoves I own >_> one by accident (Amazon Vine, got an Odoland titanium cup, BRS clone, and spork). The Amicus for $50 with two pots was... too... good to pass up. At this point I have more than one set of stove/fuel/pot collected over the years lol; now I can let people borrow stuff :D Thanks for sharing :) I ended up buying a fancy plasma lighter that has an extendable/collapsible tip, and doubles as a flashlight, for lighting piezo-less stoves >_> Tbh I plan to take both of them when using canisters. The lil titanium wunder stove takes up so little space/weight that it makes perfect sense as a backup.
I actually have a titanium windscreen that I've used with any stove I've had. It doesn't connect to anything. Just circle the canister, stove, and just a little of the pot. It tucks in nicely in my 750 ml pot. Not my 550. I usually leave it out if I'm only using the 550. I use my pack or whatever is around as a sort of wind block. My wife and I both love and will continue using brs stoves, but can definitely see where the Soto stove fuel savings over time may make it worthwhile. As far as weight. Factor in being forced to use lighter or fire starter vs. self ignition probably levels out that playing field quite a bit. Fortunately, in bang for your buck, I think the Soto is probably fairly priced for what it is and fuel savings without adding weight. The packability of the brs over the Soto is why I will stick with the brs because I feel all other comparisons made them pretty much equal. I still feel a person could not go wrong with either. This has been another great comparison video. Thanks for keeping up these kinds of videos!
Sounds like we are on the same page! If I already owned one of these stoves, I wouldn't feel the need to change to the other. Both are solid stoves with slight differences like you pointed out. Can't go wrong with either, but I'll stick with my BRS! Light and cheap! Thanks for adding to the discussion!
Nice comparison! Surprised to see the same fuel consumption in your tests. The Soto should throw out more BTUs and be more fuel efficient doing it. I prefer the Windmaster in wind due to the micro regulator. Should perform better at elevation and when the fuel dips down low. The Amicus doesn't have one. I would only use my brs knockoff on UL trips where I can't use my alcohol stove. Any other time with a gas stove I'm going Windmaster. The $ you'll save in the long run just on fuel will outweigh the initial cost difference in buying the stoves.
I had several people say it was distracting so removed it. Too bad there isn't an option to include if you want or drop the music if it's distracting. Glad to hear that you liked it!
I don't remember the physics of it off the top of my head, but I do remember that the physics of three arms is more stable, counterintuitively, than four.
I think another thing missed is that the Amicus has an ability to simmer that the BRS lacks. So if you are going to do some actual cooking, rather than simply boiling, the Amicus wins in another category.
Hmmm. An entire video dedicated to deciding whether or not to carry 51 extra grams of weight (covers not included). Some hardcore lightweight action here! Soto Amicus for me all day every day. But then again, I'm not a high-mile backpacker, so you should take my opinion with 51 grams of salt.
51 grams of salt! LOL! If the SOTO was massively better, I would probably take it despite the weight difference. But with the cost savings and packability of the BRS, that's my choice. With that said, I can see why so many love the Amicus!
I've used a BRS for a few years and all kinds of trips, and recently picked up an Amicus but have only had a couple chances to use it so far. The Amicus definitely seems to work well and I look forward to using it more. But I maintain that the BRS is one of if not the best piece of budget backpacking gear ever and one of the sole exceptions to the good/light/cheap rule as it is definitely all three.
@@DoseofDirt - I used the Amicus this past weekend and was really impressed by the stability of the pot stands, and how quickly it boiled water. I didn't really measure fuel efficiency. I did notice 2 things though. I lost a fair amount of fuel when attaching/detaching the stove from the canister. Also lost some one of the times I tried to use the ignitor. It worked fine the other 3 times I used it, but one time it just wouldn't catch even though I could see both the spark and the gas. But over all, solid piece of kit. Going forward the stove decision will likely be determined by how windy I think it is going to be, and by how much difference 2 ounces is going to make in my pack.
if you really want to save weight, you wouldn’t have a gas stove but use something using white spirits because even the burning spirits is lighter than gas cartridges😅
I want a quilt not full of down but synthetic fibers as I hate the thought of sleeping in dead animal products , I need it to go at least -5 celsius. I found out today some bags use what they call live bird feathers. This means the poor animal was plucked while it was alive then continued to live till it was fat enough to killed be eaten. I don’t want this on my conscious, and apparently many bags and quilts use these fathers. No cool no good. So dirt man use your knowledge and support animal free products and recommend what I can buy. I am sure all reading this now will want an alternative regardless of price.
⚙Gear Links⚙
-BRS 3000
-Amazon: amzn.to/3wcy2dx
-Garage Grown Gear: alnk.to/fHlrlfy
-SOTO Amicus:
-Amazon: amzn.to/49NDgdy
-Garage Grown Gear: alnk.to/gp0tgCx
-REI: alnk.to/5jkJtcn
-Flat Cat Gear windscreen for BRS 3000: www.flatcatgear.com/shop/ocelot-brs/
-Small fuel canisters (4pack): amzn.to/3Wf5lYb
-Large fuel canister: amzn.to/4bcExfa
-Flip Fuel:
-Amazon: amzn.to/3QnTzqv
-Garage Grown Gear: alnk.to/gp0tgqT
Camera Gear I Use on Trail:
-Action Camera: amzn.to/3UhMNoA
-Main Camera: amzn.to/3vNYXMF
-Main Lens: amzn.to/3vI429j
-Large tripod (light and affordable!): amzn.to/3VXMgJB
-Small tripod: amzn.to/4aV0qzu
-Should strap attachment for DSLR: amzn.to/3VTytE4
-Mics: amzn.to/43VyWaN
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Your channel is the best. The way you focus on the great deals, decent quality at a low price, is so helpful. Thank you!
Agreed! Hope there's new videos soon
Having had both stoves for a few years the Amicus goes on more trips. It’s faster to boil in all conditions in my experience. The BRS as you have shown falls apart with the slightest breeze. I do bring the BRS on peak bagging trips or when every ounce counts. I think having both in one’s kit is a wise choice. Enjoyed the comparison.
Thanks for adding to the discussion with your experience! This is excellent!
Great video , My BRS stove finally gave up after a few years of use... so I recently got the soto amicus with the river pot & it's brilliant. I put a spare buff/ cloth in the pot to stop any scratches etc then my tatonka stainless steel 500ml mug, inside that goes a small gas cylinder, amicus stove, lighter, a few liquorice tea bags.. makes a realy great cook set.
Campingmoon has a stove almost identical to the Soto for $25-30 they make quality equipment. I’m glad to see you back, your videos are always great. Thanks.
Ooh, I haven't heard of Campingmoon. Maybe I'll check that stove out! Thanks for the tip!
Thank you for the thorough comparison. We use the BRS but are considering the Soto, so this was helpful.
FWIW: My BRS spurts fuel when attaching and removing the fuel canister.
I don't think you can go wrong with either, so it just depends on your usage and priorities. If I was taking kids or sharing a cook kit with someone, I would probably reach for the SOTO Amicus since I'd be taking the 750ml pot! I should have mentioned that in the video!
Good to see you again. I like that the Soto is bigger looks like it would be easier for my old hands to operate. Thanks for the review
Especially with the built in ignitor! Especially in the windy test, that was a really nice feature!
Nice comparison. Very thorough and well thought out. As for me, I really enjoy the Soto Amicus. Great performance you can count on.
Love my Soto. REI frequently has the stove and pots for an amazingly low price
Thanks for sharing your experience! Yes, with the pots it's an excellent deal! The SOTO Amicus is the only stove that's made me question whether BRS is actually my favorite. It's a solid stove!
Great reviews bro! Keep them coming
BRS for the run, i am using a cheap aluminum foil to block out the wind for efficient boiling, it works for me.
This is actually a pretty funny review because my backpacking buddy and I just had a discussion last week on our backpacking trip about these two stoves. I have the BRS and he has the SOTO. I love the comparison, now I'll be able to tell him EXACTLY why my BRS is better ha ha. But seriously, I love the review, and will hate on his stove a little less because it does actually perform better, and when we're talking about small weights like this, we're not ultralighters, so the extra grams for the SOTO really isn't a problem in my opinion. Thanks!!
haha! This is hilarious! Love that you two were having a stove debate. For me, if it's 1/3 the cost, lighter, and almost as good in most conditions, I'll go for that all day long every time!
To not burn my fingers while using my BRS I use a wooden dowel with a saw cut in to end to rotate the stove's wire adjustment. A 3/8" x 4" dowel fits inside my cup that holds my gas and stove.
Love this idea! I haven't had this issue until I used that windscreen! If I ever take the windscreen out, I'll definitely remember the stick tip!
That's exactly what I do, except I made mine from a stick and it's only about 2" long.
You're amazing. Thank you for such great information 😊
Can you review the 6.2 r-value sleeping mat from Hikenture?
Great vid. My soto windmaster squeaks out gas every time I fit it to any canister too. Oh, and remove it. Save a gram, waste a gram. Still love it though.
the two canister stoves I own >_> one by accident (Amazon Vine, got an Odoland titanium cup, BRS clone, and spork). The Amicus for $50 with two pots was... too... good to pass up.
At this point I have more than one set of stove/fuel/pot collected over the years lol; now I can let people borrow stuff :D
Thanks for sharing :)
I ended up buying a fancy plasma lighter that has an extendable/collapsible tip, and doubles as a flashlight, for lighting piezo-less stoves >_>
Tbh I plan to take both of them when using canisters. The lil titanium wunder stove takes up so little space/weight that it makes perfect sense as a backup.
Wondering if you have done a video review on collapsible water bottles for hiking
I actually have a titanium windscreen that I've used with any stove I've had. It doesn't connect to anything. Just circle the canister, stove, and just a little of the pot. It tucks in nicely in my 750 ml pot. Not my 550. I usually leave it out if I'm only using the 550. I use my pack or whatever is around as a sort of wind block. My wife and I both love and will continue using brs stoves, but can definitely see where the Soto stove fuel savings over time may make it worthwhile. As far as weight. Factor in being forced to use lighter or fire starter vs. self ignition probably levels out that playing field quite a bit. Fortunately, in bang for your buck, I think the Soto is probably fairly priced for what it is and fuel savings without adding weight. The packability of the brs over the Soto is why I will stick with the brs because I feel all other comparisons made them pretty much equal. I still feel a person could not go wrong with either.
This has been another great comparison video. Thanks for keeping up these kinds of videos!
Sounds like we are on the same page! If I already owned one of these stoves, I wouldn't feel the need to change to the other. Both are solid stoves with slight differences like you pointed out. Can't go wrong with either, but I'll stick with my BRS! Light and cheap! Thanks for adding to the discussion!
Nice comparison! Surprised to see the same fuel consumption in your tests. The Soto should throw out more BTUs and be more fuel efficient doing it. I prefer the Windmaster in wind due to the micro regulator. Should perform better at elevation and when the fuel dips down low. The Amicus doesn't have one. I would only use my brs knockoff on UL trips where I can't use my alcohol stove. Any other time with a gas stove I'm going Windmaster. The $ you'll save in the long run just on fuel will outweigh the initial cost difference in buying the stoves.
Hey editor what happened to the awesome DOD funky music in the backgtound
I had several people say it was distracting so removed it. Too bad there isn't an option to include if you want or drop the music if it's distracting. Glad to hear that you liked it!
Xboil is a really good recommendation from me to you 👍
I don't remember the physics of it off the top of my head, but I do remember that the physics of three arms is more stable, counterintuitively, than four.
I think another thing missed is that the Amicus has an ability to simmer that the BRS lacks. So if you are going to do some actual cooking, rather than simply boiling, the Amicus wins in another category.
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Hmmm. An entire video dedicated to deciding whether or not to carry 51 extra grams of weight (covers not included). Some hardcore lightweight action here! Soto Amicus for me all day every day. But then again, I'm not a high-mile backpacker, so you should take my opinion with 51 grams of salt.
51 grams of salt! LOL! If the SOTO was massively better, I would probably take it despite the weight difference. But with the cost savings and packability of the BRS, that's my choice. With that said, I can see why so many love the Amicus!
I saw a windscreen for brs that had wires to hold it. A YT video by that company
Hmm, maybe I'll see if I can track that down!
I've used a BRS for a few years and all kinds of trips, and recently picked up an Amicus but have only had a couple chances to use it so far. The Amicus definitely seems to work well and I look forward to using it more. But I maintain that the BRS is one of if not the best piece of budget backpacking gear ever and one of the sole exceptions to the good/light/cheap rule as it is definitely all three.
Sounds like we are definitely of the same mind here! I love the build in ignitor of the Amicus and the wind resistance, but I still reach for the BRS!
@@DoseofDirt - I used the Amicus this past weekend and was really impressed by the stability of the pot stands, and how quickly it boiled water. I didn't really measure fuel efficiency. I did notice 2 things though. I lost a fair amount of fuel when attaching/detaching the stove from the canister. Also lost some one of the times I tried to use the ignitor. It worked fine the other 3 times I used it, but one time it just wouldn't catch even though I could see both the spark and the gas. But over all, solid piece of kit. Going forward the stove decision will likely be determined by how windy I think it is going to be, and by how much difference 2 ounces is going to make in my pack.
if you really want to save weight, you wouldn’t have a gas stove but use something using white spirits because even the burning spirits is lighter than gas cartridges😅
I want a quilt not full of down but synthetic fibers as I hate the thought of sleeping in dead animal products , I need it to go at least -5 celsius. I found out today some bags use what they call live bird feathers. This means the poor animal was plucked while it was alive then continued to live till it was fat enough to killed be eaten. I don’t want this on my conscious, and apparently many bags and quilts use these fathers. No cool no good. So dirt man use your knowledge and support animal free products and recommend what I can buy. I am sure all reading this now will want an alternative regardless of price.
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