The BATTLE You Have ALL Asked For! - Soto Amicus vs Soto Windmaster

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  • We have had many, many stove battles on the channel…and it seems like a while since we had a good one! By far the most commonly asked for battle is between two stoves from Soto, the Amicus and the Windmaster. Let’s see how they stack up!
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  • @ThePapawhisky
    @ThePapawhisky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Great data based comparison. I have owned both stoves for years. Started with the amicus. Have used the wind master exclusively for about 4 years. Carried it on the CT twice, AZT, and PCT. Super fast, fuel efficient, reliable. Never had a problem. Even the lighter still works.

    • @33sosa85
      @33sosa85 ปีที่แล้ว

      I plan to thruhike CT next year and Im section hiking this year. did you take the 8oz iso and how long did it last you on the trail? Im trying to plan logistics and was wondering if i should plan possibly staying at least 5-6 days on the trail before resupply...

  • @m.hernandez1404
    @m.hernandez1404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I have both. I like both. Tend to use the Amicus bc it fits in my Toaks 750 pot with a small fuel canister.

  • @arob_
    @arob_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    good video, but would be helpful if you could include the results in a table format to view on the screen rather than reading them off

    • @azclaimjumper
      @azclaimjumper ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I 2nd the motion.

    • @allendevans
      @allendevans 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Third!

    • @kayakangler7683
      @kayakangler7683 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was thinking the same thing. Great comparison and video though.

  • @dpalms24
    @dpalms24 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, the difference in noise is worth the $20 to my ears. Great comparison. Thank you!

  • @InNomineCerebri
    @InNomineCerebri 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You very much for your time and effort!

  • @chrishyde7798
    @chrishyde7798 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your creative content! This is a super useful comparison test.

  • @troybranaman316
    @troybranaman316 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great informational video as always Ernie!! I really like these comparison videos . Take care and stay safe my friend!!

  • @peacefulplaces3634
    @peacefulplaces3634 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review. Thank you for sharing.

  • @michaeltichonuk2176
    @michaeltichonuk2176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My first canister stove is Windmaster. Your review had sealed the deal.
    I tend to look for the blue flame. Cleaner burn=better fuel efficiency and management.
    I've been blue lining SW. Wind is relentless at times. So is the Windmaster!
    I also use it as back up at base camp. I am very impressed with stove so far.
    Outstanding Battle! No Blood but still a clear winner. Soto!

  • @azclaimjumper
    @azclaimjumper ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent comparison. It confirms that I bought the stove with the mostest, the Soto Windmaster. That regulator is what separates the men from boys when it comes to stoves + it's fuel efficiency is definitely THE BEST of all stoves currently being sold.
    I love that T-Shirt & its message.
    Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada

  • @moonpie29075
    @moonpie29075 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the windmaster and I really enjoy it.

  • @shawnregan6301
    @shawnregan6301 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the information

  • @jimmyroberson7843
    @jimmyroberson7843 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great comparison. I use the amicus because it fits into my snow peak 650 ml pot with a small canister. I love this combination and it works well for me. Thanks again and take good care.

  • @functionaldoc5054
    @functionaldoc5054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bought the WindMaster based on your review in the past since I want one stove that is well built and not made in China but Japan. l love the stove showdowns keep them coming.

  • @biblesnbarbells
    @biblesnbarbells ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the review. I have an original SOTO Micro Regulator Stove. Still works flawlessly. Take care.

  • @andrewskowronski6283
    @andrewskowronski6283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Own both the MSR Pocket Rocket 2, and the MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe, boil water mostly for that end of hike sunset coffee, enjoy the Firebox Xl twig stiove for the versatility and ambience of a dancing flame and wood burn aroma. Cannister stoves have a niche when trail hiking far from base camp for a change in scenery, and a cuppa Joe on the edge of a woodland stream. Love em all....!! Cheers!🏆

  • @golfgirl0214
    @golfgirl0214 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @jandal8905
    @jandal8905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good review, thanks. I think I'll go with the Amicus because it's almost as efficient and more compact.

  • @alexanderslee
    @alexanderslee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kudos for using a thermometer for more accurate measurements of actual boil time. Most other channels just go off a visual/auditory boiling cue.
    I would appreciate the test data to be written out in text in a comparison chart, also copied in the description. It’s hard to recall or process figures just hearing them. Thank you.

  • @russwagers
    @russwagers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great video! I’ve been very satisfied with my windmaster.

  • @4bluekitty
    @4bluekitty 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this awesome video! I decided to invest in wind master since it seemed like I wouldn’t need to look for another based off the review- also the outro music is super nostalgic haha xD

  • @romererunamerika9437
    @romererunamerika9437 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have both as well. Both excellent windmaster has regulator to low gas volumes and high altitude cooking but I like the pot stand on the amicus better

  • @mariogalarza5036
    @mariogalarza5036 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you

  • @MarleyFett
    @MarleyFett 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Soto is bomb yo!

  • @palbal
    @palbal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Greetings from Norway Ernie. Another great video. Wonder if Santa got my wishlist with the Windmaster on top😅.

  • @ScottKent
    @ScottKent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you would really like to show the value of that microregulator; Take some stoves out in subfreezing temps with ice cold cannisters and see how they do. I had 3 stoves with me once because I had just bought the BRS and the Soto Windmaster but hadn't come to trust them yet and figured a winter trip in the Southern Appalachians would be a great time to see how they did against my old Snowpeak. Well, at 20 degrees F, with winds around 20mph and above 4000ft, the BRS failed to even get started enough to say it failed, the old Snowpeak kind of worked, but the Windmaster just worked.

    • @azclaimjumper
      @azclaimjumper ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your reply says it all, re: the regulator.

  • @Bornintheseat
    @Bornintheseat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! More liquid fuel stoves please! Would love a comparison between MSR Dragonfly, Optimus Polaris Optifuel and Primus OmniFuel.

  • @elimatthews5757
    @elimatthews5757 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Planning a hike and have been researching around on stove setups. Settled on a Soto and needed to decide Windmaster vs. Amicus. Your review helped seal the deal. Thanks!

    • @highonimmi
      @highonimmi ปีที่แล้ว

      @eli matthews can you let us know what you decided on and why? I’m narrowing my possibilities as well. Thanks

    • @elimatthews5757
      @elimatthews5757 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@highonimmi Windmaster. I live and primarily hike in AK where there can be unpredictable and high winds, and that beats any other advantage held by the Amicus. Just took it on a 45-mile through hike and was impressed with its performance.

    • @chrishyde7798
      @chrishyde7798 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. I'm going to purchase the Windmaster. I've used an alcohol stove in the past, but it's just too slow and finicky.

  • @nickprague1481
    @nickprague1481 ปีที่แล้ว

    For me the spring loaded pot stand on the Amicus is the game changer

  • @603storm
    @603storm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like my Soto. Not sure which model and I’m too lazy to run to my gear locker to check but it’s a solid stove and is my go too when I’m solo or with one other person. And it fits inside my 900ml pot.

  • @drakcheslav
    @drakcheslav 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    One thing people don't realize. Both amicus and windmaster have a regulator. They're just two different regulators. Microregulator vs 3 o-ring regulator.

    • @michaeltichonuk2176
      @michaeltichonuk2176 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which is which?

    • @drakcheslav
      @drakcheslav 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@michaeltichonuk2176 windmaster has the microregulator, and amucus has the triple o-ring. Which should be simpler and cheaper reg. You can find the document on Soto's website.

  • @hoser7706
    @hoser7706 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Slways great reviews! Do uou use the Tri Flex for smaller pots? Is the 4 flex just for wider pots

  • @interwebslinger
    @interwebslinger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So impressed with the Windmaster!
    I'd love to see a comparison video where you just take the Windmaster but compare burn times and gas usage at different flame intensities. My theory is you can potentially boil more efficiently if you turn the stove down a bit. In wind it might be less efficient, though.

    • @michaeltichonuk2176
      @michaeltichonuk2176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think so too. Too much flame and the BTUs are just escaping from the sides.
      Yep, I'm very impressed with Windmaster performance too!

  • @marcireale
    @marcireale 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need that shirt!

  • @Mentalfloss64
    @Mentalfloss64 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has there been a comparison of the basic Jetboil and the Soto Windmaster in terms of fuel efficiency? Thank you.

  • @donaldpepera2928
    @donaldpepera2928 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I went with an Amicus without igniter and because the potstand can't get lost. Plus it was almost half the price.

  • @dennissantos4357
    @dennissantos4357 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve had a wonderful experience with the company somehow I broke off the little piece of metal on the igniter that’s in the middle of the stove and the company told me they stand behind their product and they sent me a brand new stove. Cindy is the one I spoke with, and she’s the owner and I can’t tell you how much this means to me. I’ll buy SOTO forever.

  • @dylanagli1577
    @dylanagli1577 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video! I love having your expertise review the items that I am interested in purchasing,. It helps ALOT. My question and deciding factor between the both is the regulator. How important is it to have the micro regulator? I understand the benefits based on the description although I would like the feedback from users actual experience. I do not camp in sub freezing weather, The coldest temperature I camp in would be ~ 40 degrees Fahrenheit. Is the micro regulator necessary?

  • @jplamb77
    @jplamb77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your the Stove man Ernie,,,,!!!!!
    I honestly think that the Only battle we haven’t seen is You and your Gracious Wife, duking it Out,,,!!!!! lol Great Review as always,,,,!!!!!! Joshua

  • @gregabrelih2358
    @gregabrelih2358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video, what about testing these stoves versus a remote gas canister stoves in same wind conditions. are these high standing stoves worse than those witch are closer to the ground. are the remote gas canister stoves worth the extra weight.

    • @highonimmi
      @highonimmi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like remotes as well. You can turn your can stove to a remote one they make little lightweight adapters that make a can topper to a remote one. They can be found on Amazon and low priced!

    • @SMafam5
      @SMafam5 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a Bulin remote but this is a great idea to make the Windmaster into a remote canister stove! Any links for how-to?

  • @randyholloway920
    @randyholloway920 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about the BRS versus the Amicus?

  • @noelmilleryoga5993
    @noelmilleryoga5993 ปีที่แล้ว

    can someone help me? I just bought the windmaster and when I take the stove off the gas can, it spurts out a lot of gas. is this normal?

  • @waxler2
    @waxler2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will the triflex support fit on the Amicus?

  • @miagy420
    @miagy420 ปีที่แล้ว

    Soto windmaster vs Snowpeak Gigapower

  • @Nunya_Binness
    @Nunya_Binness 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤️📹❗️ Do you know of a stove that will compete with the JETBOIL in speed and efficiency without the bulk and weight? I do a lot of backcountry hunting and I’m always looking to cut weight and bulk without sacrificing performance. Love your channel.

    • @wio2189
      @wio2189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you're cutting down on weight there is a decrease in first comfort then performance. The lightest canister stove is the BRS3000T. But it's way less wind resistant then a Jetboil (but also much cheaper). To me it's a worthy trade as I only use if for minutes every day but carry it in my backpack for 10 hours or so. The Jetboil pot can also get a dent when dropped that stops it from attaching to the stove part.
      You could always try it, it's a cheap price. And a Toaks 550 UL pairs really well with it as a small canister, the BRS3000T, a small towel and BIC mini all fit inside of it nicely. And very light.

    • @martinerhard8447
      @martinerhard8447 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what makes the jetboil efficient is not the stove but the flux part of the pot. It makes the heat transfer more efficient but increases weight and can be a pain to clean.
      There are pots (that are not so overpriced) from other brands that have this and can be paired with a windmaster or even alcohol stoves to increase efficiency.
      But...its never really needed. With a windmaster even a small 100gram canister stove should last you reach your next restock location.
      If its about saving money then get an adaptor to refill the small gas canisters from the huge ones. I refill mine out of a 20L one.

    • @martinerhard8447
      @martinerhard8447 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wio2189 would still go with the windmaster then. Brs is just not very stable and with the windmaster you dont need a windscreen which makes it such a lightweight solution.

    • @jandal8905
      @jandal8905 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martinerhard8447 The BRS 3000-T is also my stove of choice, especially for solo tramping.
      It's incredibly lightweight, and almost as efficient as my Pocket Rocket in sheltered conditions (e.g., in a tent vestibule or using my backpack as a windshield).

  • @drakcheslav
    @drakcheslav 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great. Now that I've bought the Amicus, what am I to do if the Windmaster is better. 😂

    • @charlesbradshaw9215
      @charlesbradshaw9215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Buy the Windmaster
      Good to have both 😊

    • @michaeltichonuk2176
      @michaeltichonuk2176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Obviously your new here...🤣

    • @moorejl57
      @moorejl57 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      First rule of stove club, you can't have too many stoves.

    • @martinerhard8447
      @martinerhard8447 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keep the aminus.
      Its more than worth its price and not much worse but much cheaper than the windmaster.

    • @drakcheslav
      @drakcheslav 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@martinerhard8447 I know. I'm just messing around. I've purposely got the amicus. And never looked back.

  • @kennethschaidle5995
    @kennethschaidle5995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    will either of these fit into a 750 ml toaks titanium pot along with a small fuel canister?

    • @GrizzlyGaz
      @GrizzlyGaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The windmaster does not. Not sure on the amicus

    • @GrizzlyGaz
      @GrizzlyGaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@l0rdf4der88 not with a gas canister? Or is the toaks wider than other 750ml pots?

    • @GrizzlyGaz
      @GrizzlyGaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@l0rdf4der88 hmmmmm... I'm gonna have to have another go at cramming it in! 👍

  • @MrBluoct
    @MrBluoct 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My newish windmaster leaks
    Any suggestions ??
    basically will not fully turn off gas flow so canister leaks to empty over night

    • @victorf5404
      @victorf5404 ปีที่แล้ว

      Disconnect it from the canister overnight.

    • @azclaimjumper
      @azclaimjumper ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One or both of the O-rings likely need to be replaced. Email, Soto, they will send you a replacement set, no charge.

  • @davidcressey
    @davidcressey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cant beat the Minimo though......

  • @flareairborne9089
    @flareairborne9089 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Video is way too long for 2 burners are almost identical. Maybe just focus on the differences?

  • @MarleyFett
    @MarleyFett 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank Gods it wasnt another alcohol burner...lol...jk...jk

  • @piotrknap7220
    @piotrknap7220 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Windmaster recently did not manage to boil water at approx. 0 C temperature and almost empty gas canister. So I finished boiling using titanium BRS 3000. I used the same gas canister and BRS was working without any problem. In my opinion Windmaster is an overrated, huge and expensive disappointment.

    • @martinerhard8447
      @martinerhard8447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      brs has the flaw that the aluminium gets hot and heats up the canister. This can be dangerous when its already hot but is good when its cold.
      The windmaster is just the best at what it does so its not overrated. The brs is much less efficient and also needs a windscreen.
      And its also less stable. I got both and only take the brs on very short trips.

    • @jandal8905
      @jandal8905 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martinerhard8447 I've never had that problem with my BRS (heating up a canister).

    • @Chris66able
      @Chris66able ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No chance on Earth that happened...

  • @petersymons7817
    @petersymons7817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you