Kitchenaid 7 Qt Proline/8 Qt Commercial Motor Swap! Diagnosing and Replacing the DC Powered Motor!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ค. 2023
- In this video we show the replacement of the 1.3 HP DC powered motor in the 7qt proline and 8qt Commercial KitchenAid Mixers.
There are several reasons to swap the motor, mostly relating to failed gears, a bad fan or a broken magnet that effects the hall sensor.
We discuss the ins and outs of both diagnosing and replacing the motor to make sure your machine can live on without a pricey replacement unit!
We Also accept shipments of mixers for repair, info on our website!
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Mr Mixer - you don't even realise how awesome and helpful you are. May the universe bless you and your family!
I appreciate you ❤️
How does the universe bless anybody? God is the only One who can bless anything.
God bless you!
Awsome video brother I just pick one for 80 bucks man your a life saver!!
Wow...... Mr. Mixer... I would like to thank you for allowing me to watch your video and be able to fix my wife's mixer. You saved my relationship!!!!! Thank you...Thank you... Thank you...!!!! I took the easy way out and bought the entire motor assembly. 8 screws later, as you said it, the mixer is purring like a kitten... MUCHAS GRACIAS!!!!!
Thank you for being awesome, just fixed and regreased my commercial 8qt using this video!
Awesome job ! Glad to see you're back "on-line" and making videos following your "unplanned hiatus"......hope all's well !
Man this was the video I have been looking for all day!!! Keep it up brother!! Road to 20mili!
Dear friend, thank you for the videos and the instructions. I'm writing from Greece. I have recently purchased the same silver lift bowl mixer. The noise when working was not even and i have opened only the front small door for the planetary movements. The grease on the gears was like glue. It was dryed and from white it was yellow. From the front cover through the holes i could see the multiple gears. I did'n touch that assembly, but i used a grease lithium sprey to grease them. The same thing with the big front gears and planetary system. On the motor writes made in Vietnam and to the external band made in the USA. Not fair. Maybe the Law gives the company the right to do so, but for me it is unfair. Thank you once more for the detailed videos. I couldn't fix it without your help.
Mr Mixer thank you so much. please stay safe.
I appreciate you ❤️
I love this video! My 7 qt has the beater shaft dropping down when run it. I think its called that, 😅 the part that holds the paddle. Can you please do a video on fixing that? Thank you so much for all of your videos!!
Camera looks really NICE
I love knowing how my stuff is built! Long time wrench turner, but an issue clipped my wings. I lived vicariously thru you! Ty
Thanks for watching, I appreciate you being here!
Good video!
Thank you! I'm trying to get back into the long format stuff. It's a lot more work 😅
@@MrMixer316it’s very appreciated!!!
Helpful. Thanks
Thanks for sharing
Thank You for detailed and informative video!
One question: when comparing COOKING CHEF XL (latest) and TITANIUM CHEF XL (1,700W, old model)
- is the motor the same ?
- is the planetar/reduction mechanical module the same ?
Thank You a lot!
I own a marshmallow company. This saves me a ton of money. Thank you for making this video!🤝
It is a pleasure to be of service!
Ummmm. S'more !!!
Hi thanks for your videos. Question when the mixer work good up to speed 7 then it didn’t go up any more. You can put it in 8,9 or 10 but stay in speed 7. Already change the speed controller for a new one. Same result. What. An he wrong ?
Very nice video! After unscrewing the motor you can acces some of the gears. Should these be cleaned and regreased?
Just an opinion, but while you are in a machine, why not do everything you can? Might save you another teardown.
Do you have a video comparing which one is better between an AC motor and a DC motor? Thank you!
DC all the way. I repair both. The DC machines are better, stronger and quieter.
I recently inherited a fairly new albeit well used GE stand mixer that I know needs to be cleaned and tuned up. Is this something I could send your way possibly?
Those instructions also apply to the Professional 6000 HD from Costco.
Yes they do
I’m looking into buying a new mixer either the 600 pro or the 7qt with the ac motor. How much is the 7qt mixer to fix and replace the motor assembly?
Nice job on your videos. Will you be doing a regrease video for the Proline 7Q?
I have a video on swapping the motor and transmission which shows the disassembly process etc. The gears really don't need greased as there is very little grease and it's all inclosed. They really only benefit from a dab of grease on occasion. I have just recently got to a point where I have enough employees to take care of a lot of my physical load so I will be releasing a bunch of videos soon!
Great video. If I just need to tighten the three screws that connect the head of the mixer to the stand, obviously needing to remove the motor and control board to access them, would you recommend disconnecting the motor from the transmission, or removing the planetary and taking off the whole drive train?
Well its easier to remove just the motor, just make sure you get it seated back properly!
@@MrMixer316 Much appreciated!
Does the commercial 8qt have a pouring chute if not is there one that you recommend? Thank you
Almost exactly my model, yay! So needed b3cause I wasn't sure about that first clip in the back. Wife used a meat grinder attachment to grind tilapia.... so now it smells like fish 😢
Ah, I was hoping to see a regreasing, hope it's coming soon
So is the KSM7581 7-quart the same internally as the KSM7586 7-quart Pro Line? Thanks for a great video! 🧡
Yes they will be virtually identical!
Hey Mr. Mixer! Do you have a video on a motor swap for a professional 600? Also thank you so much for these videos!
I do not but i will add it to the list, i have finally built a team around me to allow me to create more content!
@@MrMixer316 You could go far with this. Maybe expand to other appliances.
Hey Mr. Mixer, I have an 8 quart Commercial (KSM8990DP) that broke a shear pin on the planetary. After replacing the shear pin, it feels like the whole planetary assembly is now sitting too high on the main shaft and is making contact and binding. Any thoughts?
My artisan mini is just like this and I’m trying to figure out how to do a cleaning / re greasing but I have had no luck finding any videos online to help. Would the gears in the transmission need to be cleaned and re greased ?
No they will not, it's all a contained unit, and they don't require but maybe a dab of grease
Thank you 😊
Hello. Is this the same motor as the 6000 HD?
@MrMixer316 have you encountered this issue in the past.... my machine stops after speed 6. It just turns off. Would replacing the whole motor solve the issue, or would it be the speed control board?
Mr. Mixer - do you have a video on how to fix a lever that lowers and raises the bowl on the 8Q commercial mixer?! Need one desperately to help my mom fix her mixer!
I do not but I can definitely can get one of those done. We do have one on the k5ss model, the process is similar if you want to view it.
Ive got a "clicking" when running if i grab the implement shaft- with the planetary removed the sound is gone. Theres white grease on the planetary gear, but it looks dry. How much grease should go in this area? It didn't look like you applied any, but the focus of this video was the motor replacement. I've been told the planetary is not greased the same as the transmission
It looks like the planetary gear is grinding the ring gear. Is there some vertical gap in the planetary case when you push it up? Check if the holding ring is tight to the groove on the shaft..
Hi,
First for the educate movie.
I consider to replace grease for 6KG Kitchen aid mixer.
What is the amount of grease do I need to put?
3.5 oz is usually enough
Thanks for your prompt reply.
Your video helped me
Hi Mr.Mixer,
My 7 quart proline mixer 3 gears broken, how can i order new gears or do i have to replace entire motor?
Can you please send me link for support spare parts.
Thank you
Do you consult on mixer repairs? I've got an old one that I can't get reassembled and none of the diagrams I can find are clear enough from the angle I need
I don't traditionally but we might be able to work something out. I'm considering starting a subscription and going live etc so I will be more readily available hopefully in the not too distant future
Mister mixer how are you im trying the re grease my kitchen id but i think i messed up
Ho I'm getting ready to buy a new mixer but after learning so much on your videos I want a DC motor. I wanted the 7 series but how do I tell the difference between the one with DC motor and AC motor?
I did a lot of research on the 7 quart mixers. The 7 quart pro line is the one with the DC motor. That model has been discontinued. You can only buy it from another seller. There are a few places that are KitchenAid authorized dealers that still have a few in stock online. Good luck. They are not inexpensive, but I think it will be a good investment with a motor that is of higher quality.
It is the same with a 6qt dc motor ang 7 or 8qt dc motor?
This video is so informative! Which grease do you use for the gears?
We use an nsf h1 nlgi 2 food safe grease we offer it on our website
@@MrMixer316 Thanks, Ordered! I assume that it is the same grease for the transmission. Right?
@@chinzito it's a bit different than what's currently in there but it will do fine. Very light coating on the smaller gears, then some up in the transmission housing as well as the external ring gear
@@MrMixer316 you’re the greatest! Glad I could purchase the grease through you. Love to support those who share info!
I was wondering why the new motor transmission casing had surface oxidation?
Quite weird, dude!
I have to replace the AC motor in my 5 quart bowl lift KitchenAid mixer. Do you know if I can replace it with the DC pro line motor? I realize the electronics likely have to be replaced as well, I’m just wondering if the housing has the mount holes in the correct position for the pro line motor and will accommodate the pro line motor? Thanks!
They definitely aren't interchangeable, it is possible potentially if you get a new lower housing which I proably have. It would be pretty pricey though, you would need a new motor/cord/hardware/speed board/internal ring gear/planetary it would be nearly as expensive as just buying a DC unit! On that note, we have 7qt proline available on our website Mrmixer.store
@@MrMixer316 Thank you for the reply! Here’s the whole story (I’ll try to keep it short). My KA mixer is the copper pearl, and I bought it from Sams or Costco about 6 years ago, and at the time, I thought it was the same as the custom copper metallic, but at a much better price (I think I paid $400, while the custom copper metallic on the KA website was around $800+ I think). I didn’t realize at the time that they were truly two different mixers. Mine the cheaper with AC motor, and the other with the HD DC motor. Had I realized this at the time, I would have bought the other one.. Since realizing the one I have, I’ve been trying to find the custom metallic copper with DC motor, (William Sonoma had one for a while, but not in the last few years), and I cannot find one anywhere, and no info on the KA website as to when they will be back in stock.. And I guess I should back up and say, I don’t ‘need’ to change the motor in mine, it still works fine, it just struggles (gets hot and has a burning plastic smell) when doing large bread/cookie/dumpling batches, and I would like to upgrade to the DC motor if possible. I’m assuming that if I have to swap out the lower housing with the custom metallic copper one, it wouldn’t be a perfect match and may be incredibly hard to find.. so, sounds like this really wouldn’t work well for me. Any suggestions? Do you by chance have the custom copper metallic one in your stock for sale??
@@coolnick160 I don't have one in my stock, they are kind of a coveted color and model, I may be able to source one, however it would not be cheap. I'm not sure KA even makes that color anymore and they actually canceled the 7qt DC units they are going to a new motor/trans system with a 500w ac motor. If you are dead set on the copper DC motor and don't mind the elevated price, we could definitely source and refurbish one for you
@@coolnick160 also In a few months we should have our powder coating department set up and have the ability to make one that color for you 😁
When put into gear the motor does a short movement and stops immediately. Do you have any idea what could be the culprit?
Also, I am unable to remove the pin holding the planetary, you mentioned that it needs to be aligned, but aligned to what? I tried to look for alignment on the other side, but I never get to a point where I am able to see the other side of the pin.
There are only two things it can be, it's either the speed board or motor. It's hard to tell without inspecting it for sure.
Hello Mr. Mixer. I’m writing from Brazil. I didn’t see you replacing the damaged ring gear showed when you remove the planetary.. nor re-greasing them both before putting the pin back! Isn't it necessary to relubricate these two gears as well? After all, much of the kneading effort goes directly to them. Thanks in advance
Yes it is, we have other videos going over these steps. We decided on some of these more specific issue videos to leave out steps we've gone over before to keep the video from being too long and to keep it on track with the specific issue.
Fantastic video! Now time for super tech question. We have had one of these for many years. When using the pasta roller attachment, we would get slipping somewhere in the gears/transmission. The machine was well used, so I just decided to replace the whole motor unit (bought from a local appliance parts store, sorry). It worked great right away, and was much quieter. However, maybe the fourth time making pasta, my wife is reporting the same kind of motor slipping.
I called Kitchen-Aid hoping they could tell me what part is most likely to fail. Maybe there's some kind of clutch designed to slip when the torque goes over a certain load. However, their response is to send the unit in to them for diagnosis.
So now I turn to you. Do you have any suggestions for what might be causing this specific pasta roller slipping? I'm a technical and mechanical guy, so I have no problem getting in there and replacing specific gears. I also have the old motor as well, but I never bothered to take it apart to expose the gears and transmission. Thanks in advance!
Honestly there should never be slippage in the gears, if there is, it's either a complete loss of torque which could be related to the phase board or the field assembly or it could also be related to the pasta roller itself.
@@MrMixer316 After taking a look inside the "non-serviceable" pasta roller, I think it might be that piece. The gear in there are very narrow, and inserting pasta dough forces the rollers apart, minimizing gear purchase.
So I think I might have one bummer pasta roller and two good motors/gearsets (with one needing a lube).
Thanks!
I’m wondering if you could answer a question I’m wondering what the story is on the KitchenAid commercial 6000 HD there seems to be complaints on it. People are saying the bowl jumps off the pens or it just didn’t work. That’s a bummer to hear because I love the look at that bowl. It looks like it would be really great for loading flour into it. That would be awesome. If you could just comment on that particular machine I’d like to know about buying it if I should or shouldn’t.
It was an older style model sold exclusively by sams club. It's not a bad unit, it uses the same motor and transmission as the 7 and 8 qt units except In a 6qt frame so anything from this video applies. If you like the idea of the bowl having the extra lip might as well just pick up a pour chute! However the pro 6000 HD was a good unit.
Do I lube the ring/planetary gear? 21:40
Can you help? I bought a used KitchenAid pro 600 design with 575 watt with 6 quart glass bowl, lift style. The mixer and bowl are in mint condition. The bowl two side handles don't line up with pins. Off by about 1/4". Is there an adjustment somewhere? Is this the wrong bowl?
Quite sure it is the wrong bowl.
Great video! I have a question… does the motor need to be replaced if the gears are the issue? When I try to put on gear 2,4,6 there is a clicking sound and it doesn’t work. But when on 8 and 10 after paying with it back and forth. It randomly works in high speed.
What should I do? What part do I need to replace?
Thank you in advance!
It's probably more related to your speed board!
@@MrMixer316 is it fixable? Or should I not even try? I opened it up and it slides normally but just clicks when on gear.
@@ge_apartmentviewings1908 yes it's absolutely repairable, we offer the board and the how to, or send it in to us for service!
@@MrMixer316 I bought the part from your website and installed it with all cords connected. When I put it on gear 2 the black end part twitches and doesn’t even turn. What do I do?
@@ge_apartmentviewings1908 can you spin the fan by hand? If not the motor is locked up.
Since you know the sun gear, why not just call the gearbox using its name "planetary gearbox"? The trident is the planet gear shaft, and the sleeve also has gear and is called the ring gear, all pretty intuitive names.
Descriptive words help those who do not know the proper terminology to navigate the repairs easier. I'm trying to make the process more inclusive. Yoh wouldn't believe how many people who have never worked on a thing in their life follow along with these videos!
When you make your channel and do videos, you can do that.
Is the hall effect sensor available as a replacement part or do I have to replace the entire control board ?
They no longer come separate from the board, but I have a ton of spares and they are listed on our website!
@@MrMixer316 are these available for the pro6000 HD, proline 7 quart and commercial 8 quart models ?
@@edmondfitz7085 ooh send an email, I have them they aren't listed
May be the toughest build home mixer ever! Not that it can't be made better, but eons above all the rest! Thanks for the detailed videos mate! You remind me a little bit of AvE😊
But surely, no warries for the manufacturer to disassemble and show to us the internals, when build so tough, nothing to be conserned for! I went in love with the 8th series!
Mine lasted making bread twice and POOF ! Smoked and died. That's why I'm here.
@@albertsmedley3636😳 What happened?
I have a KitchenAid mixer just like this. But mine has become a lot louder! I noticed that the mixer you have disassembled doesn’t have a lot of grease in it. Neither does mine. Could that be why it’s so loud? Please help!
Adding a small amount of grease in the main transmission housing with the two large gears and then around the external gear that the planetary rides along will often dampen some sound
@@MrMixer316that’s super helpful!!! I preemptively bought some food grade grease for this occasion! Thanks so much for this and all your video’s you post!!! I hope this helps, happy new year!!!
Is this the same motor that’s is in the 7580?
Yes it is
I am able to move it
How do you know if you have the DC or AC motor. I have the 7qt model number KSM70SKXXCU
Based off of your model number your machine will be the 500 watt AC motor! The motor and transmission is built very similar however just in AC power. Are you having issues?
@@MrMixer316 I havnt used it yet i only received it 2 Days ago. It was a gift to my mum, she wanted one all her life. I done research and found out the 7qt is the better one because it has the better motor. Im disappointed to learn it has an AC motor and only one year warranty. I wish now i bought an older pro line series but time will tell if the new motor is any good
@@Cheekymunki Im sure it will be a good unit, they seem pretty robust
Used it today its noisy. I truly believe Kitchenaid deliberately confuse with their different model numbers etc so they sell more units. I thought i was getting a 5 year warranty no i know its only one year. Im angry that i bought this unit. I bought the biggest most expensive one i could find and i still ended up with a cheap model.
@@MrMixer316Dear Mr. Mixer, one of two things: either we will have replacement gears very soon or, from now on, all KitchenAid bowl-lift stand mixers will have the gearbox to be replaced when a single gear goes bad🤬
What ever happened after the tornado?
A ton! I might make a video on it!
@@MrMixer316 Glad you are all OK. You recorded a pretty scary moment in your lives. I'm sure all your fans have been concerned and very happy you are posting again.
On many Proline 7 quart mixers, including mine, you can hear a click coming from the front when the mixer is running, usually 1 or 2 clicks every time the beater goes around the bowl. (It's not the beater hitting the bowl.) KitchenAid says the click is "normal," but it's annoying. Do you know what could be causing it and how to fix it or at least quieten it somewhat? Thanks in advance.
Great video - what an awful design. Replace the motor if a sensor fails or if needs a new motor brushes. Made my mind wanting a commercial or pro now... Gonna stick to Artisan or buying another brand.
Is that a DC motor?
Yes it is its a 1.3 hp DC motor
No diagnostics. Just swapped out the motor.
I must be CRAZY to replace the all 💩💩; for me, better replace the machine and that's the best way
What’s the name of the little magnet closer to the black fan? That little pice is broken on mine 🥹
According to Mr. Mixer (see the video @7’:10”) , the motor must be replaced! Can’t you just use a superglue to fix the magnet?