Alrightthenlad an end to the ability for narcissistic husbands to have one last thing to control their wives. Religiously, the women cannot remarry. They cannot date. Those men know that, and THAT is why they refuse to sign the papers. But sure, what a GREAT religious practice 🥴
@@-MaryPoppins- I dated a Lebanese woman once.. she mentioned if she divorced and had children she would feel no need to date again (even worse remarry). I saw this to be altruistic and responded in a positive way.. she looked at me and said.. "it's okay if you remarry, you're an American *man*" I explained how I felt about it.. she looked at me again and said "it's hard to believe you wouldn't remarry as well.. if you are genuine then you are an almost perfect man".. the conversations I had with her were .. eccentric to say the least. But I learned so much of myself with her.
As a side note, bless the Jewish men who also shamed these men who refused to give a get. They understood it was wrong and held others accountable when they didn't have to.
The women didn’t have to hold these men accountable either. Bless them both equally. Men don’t get a trophy for simply doing what women have already been doing.
@HKZ P I don't think it's racist to want to marry someone of the same race. More likely to have things in common. However, I'm not about to make any apologies on behalf of organized religon or its adherents, but this needed to happen. Sure you and I think it's not a big deal, but this guy was being spiteful. Fucking prick he was.
@HKZ P dumb fucking idea, true. But there are considerations other than mutual attraction to take into account when appraising a prospective partner. How they get along with their family and what have you. Since most people are religious, this is common to think about. You're expecting too much when you think an instance like this will shatter some nutjob's view of their entire religion. Much like tipping, the people/things to blame have managed to have us bicket amongst ourselves. Just as waiters can hold a grudge against a bad tipper when it's his/her boss that's actually underpaying them, it's far simpler to rationalise such a circumstance as being the product of a single (not technically I guess) asshole's spite and pettyness rather than the ideological shortcomings of their religion as a whole.
@HKZ P you don't understand what bigotry means. Wanting a partner of the same religion is a sensible choice, and not an irrational prejudice i.e. bigotry. Maybe, try learning the meaning of words before you use them next time, genius...
People say they should keep things like these private and solve it yourself alot. I disagree. At a certain point you need the public shaming and pressure to get them to stop being absolute dicks and holding things over you. Especially if it's something they want to shut you up, they know it's wrong , they are embarrassed to let others know but still does it as long as no one knows for years and years on end . By this time , you need that loud and clear public airing to get their asses in gear since that's the only thing that they are ashamed of and the only thing that will move them
@@MJW238 And so... ? What's your point? The solution to that problem is to change the social and cultural norms, not abandon public pressure as a tactic. As long as communities exist, this tactic will exist and will remain effective because humans are social animals who rely on community to function.
Well regretfully I'm pretty sure the persons that hijacked my will live in Israel . The man who left me in his will was like a father to me , had no children , wasn't married ... but he did tell me he didn't think he was going to go to Israel anymore to visit his half-brothers' because he said during every visit they would pressure him to leave everything in his will to them .
@@gardensofthegods I'm so sorry, that sounds horrible. You should reach out to the above organization and see if they could help with you situation. I believe they help women in various situation, not just those dealing with divorce.
The paper itself has no value, people apply value/meaning to that, otherwise, useless piece of paper. Like if I gave you a check worth a billion dollars could change your life. But if I told you the check was cashable in monopoly money, you'd be pissed. Lol.
Because traditions usually put women in a lower class and seen as property. From Asia to africa to Europe. Women traditionally played a roll of "wife. Mother. Property. Used to be traded for peace deals/ arrange power marriages. Yet these women bend over backwards to satisfy these outdated traditions. 🤦♀️🤦♂️
It's extremely unfortunate the way the catholic church handles there divorces. The only way is thru an annulment. Saying it was all a mistake and u cant do that if u have kids
Christianity stems from Judaism. They could’ve stuck with Judaism’s divorce system but they shot themselves in the foot when they outlaw divorces as wrong & that even marriage was sinful in nature. That’s not what Judaism says so it’s more back handed to get divorced in Catholicism
It would be nice if the Catholic church could grant dispensation to all Catholics that want to divorce. The only ones that seem to get it are rich people. Celine Dion anyone?
sheila not true. It’s saying that in a sense, for ecclesiastical purposes, it never occurred. Divorce has no effect on the status of children in the church. They aren’t “bastards” like in the days of Henry VIII.
@@jimb6554 What on earth are you talking about. Any catholic can get a divorce if they want it its not "outlawed", we aren't living in the middle ages anymore. Also Catholicism does not believe that marriage is sinful. I mean really what are you smoking.
Actually, they do not need that help at all. You just can denounce that moronic religion and go and get married with someone you love. That is not that difficult. But if you are a brainwashed sheep in a religion, instead you search for help for stupid situations you create yourself.
If she wants to follow her faith it's her desicion and all it took was a paper what he did is essentially trying to push her out of a community she grew up in 8 may not be Jewish but I grew up in the community and her not getting one would probably get her shunned from her home that shes know her whole life her friends her family her people would you like that to happen
@@NotChrisXXX good example of how religious communities prison their members against their interests. Same for muslim women who cannot uncover their heads because their communities will shun them. Religion is the enemy of humanity.
@HKZ P I'm not a religious person, apart from my Catholic upbringing. I just see the solidarity. I'll stand in support with every victim of oppression every time it's needed, but you're making a caricature of religion. It's just a fact of life that groups of people have always generated rules for life, good and bad, long before the modern system of lawmaking was conceived. I read Hitchens, Dawkins, Krauss,... and can understand anyone having a reactionary phase where they make the trial of all religions. Though there's very legitimate criticism, this can also become a good way to make yourself miserable, by not wanting to see the good in people. I hope you'll realize that everyone who gets to put religion, which was generated over centuries, under the loop of hyperreason, often devoid of necessary historic context, is probably in a luxuary position to do so. That's not the position most people are in. Given your inflammatory rhetoric and your eagerness to condemn, are you certain you won't be as bad as the 'evil' you're supposedly against. Real practical change comes through activism, understanding, tollerance, nuance, outreach, ... not condemnation and polarisation, which is too easy, symplistic and more emotionally fuelled than reason wants to admit, or there would be no need for swearing.
@HKZ P Wanting to date someone of the same faith isn't racist lmao, it's no different than wanting to date someone with a similar value system. If she looked at Black Jewish men (eg, the Beta Israel) and refused them because they were Black then that would be racist, but that's not what she said.
@@paulgotik ....or cancel culture is a way for the public to purge the problematic people, say like Trump, Jeffree Star, Logan Paul, Bill Barr, Steve Bannon, and corrupt officers who kill.
@EthanBrow it isn't a woman's duty, my aunt works full time while my uncle stays at home and takes care of the children because he wants to and they're happily living their married life. Stop trying to make it one, I know you've been fed this stuff for an eternity and you gladly accept it because it's convenient but there's still time to change.
Goes to show theirs DISCRIMINATION for woman with in the Jewish community too. The fact that this organization is doing their best to support the people that go to them for help, it's a beautiful thing.
As an Orthodox Jewish teenage girl, I can definitely confirm that. The second I turn 18, I'm buying my first pair of pants and I won't be afraid to say to my old school "I'm Lesbian. Fight me."
@@susango123 No, within the Orthodox community, there are different levels of observance, like the rest of the Jewish community. Some Rabbis allow it, and this is why you will see Modern Orthodox, Chabad etc. online. But some of the more strict sects don’t, or only allow specific sites or topics. Much like many faiths, indigenous + ethno-religions (like Judaism), or organized (Christian, Islam, Buddhism, Wicca etc.) you have different levels of observance or interpretations. Though I do get suspicious when someone claims to actively be part of a sect that I know is definitely not online, and majority do not speak fluent English, like the Satmar for example.
I agree cutting Chicken on the countertop is gross. You know what I find more gross? Disengaging about a woman who's suffered abuse and it is finally free. To complain about chicken that that she didn't talk about and you aren't making, you ain't cooking, you ain't eating, and you're not cleaning up after it either. And I feel like you're missing the point on purpose. You want an ability to be shity. And the piece of chicken is the only part you can feel like you can poke at a woman who's been slighted for 15 years on just that one issue. Either make a quality fucking joke and/or actually engaged upon the videos content which follows semicolon abuse. Religious law. Differences between legal and religious marriages. The gender disparity. And a whole host of other political and social issues. 'How did the chicken wipe the counter? With its breast!'
I’m so happy she was able to be freed from her ex. As a domestic abuse survivor, this brought up a lot of emotions for me . Her ex may not have physically hit her, but he was mentally and emotionally abusive holding the get over her head.
It helps that jewish communities are very tightly knit. It's not just about the religion, but a shared culture, and there's a feeling of community that makes the people mobilize fast.
The pure joy on her face and voice when she finally received her spiritual divorce was just heartbreaking. To know she suffered for so long thinking she’ll never have the chance to remarry or be rid of him - what an awesome organization.
"Oh let me put his picture here. Andrew's picture here. Should we put his picture here? Let me go print it out." I like Ms. Yael Bellin, she is all business, and no games.
@@dmenwatson1954 yes you're allowed to pressure him into believing that he has made a mistake and he must give it of his own free will, such as that his life is being better if you stopped putting him in charem.
The thing was it is separated in this situation. However she believes she needed a religious divorce. She can marry but in her belives it would be wrong
@@destinyruiz7666 True but it is maybe because she may want to find another Jewish partner and keep the culture going or maybe it is symbolic and she feels as though she wants to cut all ties with her ex, but your distinction holds true because it is kind of absurd to let a "religious" book from allowing you to move on with your life.
It’s really sad how dumb beliefs can hold a person back for several years. From an outsider perspective it’s so easy to mock other religions for their irrational beliefs. Take a good look at your own religion and you’ll soon be laughing just the same.
@Anonymous Panacea Christianity doesn't even have a rule book. And the book they stole and claim to believe in, they just ignore everything they don't understand or find inconvenient, and beat others down with the parts they feel don't apply to them.
Which is why I'm an atheist. Religion (all) is a cancer on society. The only worthwhile thing they teach is to love others but you don't need religion. To be a good person.
sweetboo1022 The good thing about Judaism is you don’t have to follow all the laws depending on what denomination you’re in. This video focused on one sect, orthodoxy, which is the strictest. I honestly question and doubt the existence of God every day but I never question my Jewishness because of the sense of community that comes along with it. Going to my grandparents every Friday for Shabbat and singing/praying, it’s beautiful. Being an Atheist and refusing religion does not make you better, and you’re being self righteous if you think it does. We all have our own beliefs and I value yours, but it doesn’t seem like you value mine or anyone’s beliefs really if they’re not your own.
@HKZ P correction she won't date outside her religion. You are racist and a bigot. All you seem to want to do is point out her religion and call her out for not wanting to go outside of it. Are you Andrew? Angry you had to get divorced?
It's good for Rabbinim (rabbi - plural) to stand for justice. The definition of "Rabbi" is a vague concept because today's rabbanim are bought and paid for (unless you work with the right rabbi). For example, there could be a spouse that could bribe the religious court to favor their side. So a woman with a rich father could make it possible for a Get to be written due to some financial influences (even if the claim is wrong). Some women are liars, and some men are abusers. It's a bit more complicated than people realize. I mean, take into consideration the couple in this video. They could both be attention-loving people. She wants a video made about her relationship, and he wants people yelling his name at his front door. They might [also] both be addicts.
When at the end Jill said she was "dying", I thought, no, you are now free to be living! What a fantastic organization. When I saw all of those protesters from the Boca Raton Temple a tear welled up in my eye. For people to so selflessly work for another's benefit whom they do not know is so touching! Mazel tov Jill!!
When I was doing some family research I found a lead that led me to an old census on divorce rate within the Jewish community (NY funny enough - turned out to be someone else/ our name misspelled) and as I was reading I couldn't help but want to cry -- domestic abuse; denied cheated on; denied physical violence; denied denied denied denied - all those women denied a divorce even though on official paperwork you see how many filed due to abuse - disgusting
Lexa Garvey - You’ve just restated one of the more prevalent myths about Judaism. Kosher laws were not based on health concerns - that is backwards rationalization and utter nonsense, which has no more validity than the folk etymology of “posh” being “Port Outbound Starboard Home” referring to the location of the more comfortable cabins out of the intense sun for ships running between Britain and India.
I Want To Be A Hive Mind So Bad - Your folks might want to obtain a refund on the tuition and fees they paid for your Hebrew school education. Lots of people share your views, but none of them are serious Talmudic scholars (or their Muslim counterparts). Jewish dietary laws have a much higher spiritual origin than a lack of refrigeration in the desert, but it admittedly requires a capacity for abstract thought to comprehend that.
Seeing all those people get together for Jill makes me teary-eyed. It goes to show, you never really are alone in your struggle and there will always be people willing to lend a helping hand.
1) I am VERY happy for her. Her ex must have been a complete shit bag for not not doing this for her when they first got divorced. 2) I'm glad I'm not the only one reacting to cutting chicken without a cutting board!
I just got chills. How scary that a man can have that much control. I've never met a devout Jewish woman (or man) in my little town. But if I could I would absolutely help her with this show of strength.
All these people freaking out over the lack of a cutting board as though soap and water don't exist and she's going to chop fruit in that same spot, raw bird juices and all. There are more people in the world who don't have cutting boards than there are who do. It's a convenience, not a vital necessity.
@@mightywhitey5974 you would be an idiot, then. It's written to be learned, not read. It's partly a legal document, so at times, it discusses the extremes of the law (things that may never happen) from the amoral perspective (evaluating facts, assumptions and conclusion, not necessarily morality. For example "What sin would be punished more severely?"), as to elucidate it more clearly, in order to apply it to complex real life situations.
Leo Tsisin it is a little retarded to think god would respect the withholding of a gett from an ex partner for years.... to believe you still have something to fight for morally is a bit hypocritical to thinking god is “all good”, unless you don’t deserve to marry again
@@Nanasmama muslim women can divorce and remarry in a mutual consenting decision with their husband. However if the husband sticks on and she wants to leave she can go to the nearby mosque and ask the imam for divorce. However Muslims do not follow this now they follow cultural and societal traditions which has led them away from the true islam
@@Nanasmama a Muslim man may divorce at will without any need of justification. A muslim woman needs to go to a cleric or Sharia court and give evidence for impotence or cruelty or abandonment before being granted divorce. It's more difficult for women to be divorced than men in general but it's possible.
@@apoorvavishnoi6979 she can also get divorce without any reason. It's the case in Morocco (we have islam as a state religion and "sharia" aka medieval law for personal affairs like marriage and stuff).
There's a woman who was only recently released from her marriage a fret 15yrs of being an agunah and only because there was a refusal to bury his recently passed mother until he did the right thing
Serious question, if a person does something aginst jewish law, what actually happens? Does that individual get barred from the church or are they denied access to heaven?
Brandon Reeves depending on how serious and what type he and his family can could expelled from the community or he could get 39 lashes and the two worst punishments r death or loss of heaven for him and his whole family
What kind of sick person is Andrew? I mean what is she? his property? To wait for someone to give you permission to remarry for years, I don't know how she did it. If it was me I would have just bashed Andrew's head in some dark alley.
Idk why but it makes me so happy knowing that people will literally protest outside these men’s homes and places of work for refusing to let there ex wife go.
This is the reason when everyone should realize that religion is literally man-made! It is not some god or gods who invented these bullshit laws! Religion could do and does a lot of good, but it has to be equal for everyone and not biased towards someone! That said, this is also why i dont understand why anyone would join a religion. You can believe in what you want and follow traditions you want, you dont need any priest or church or book or anything behind you to do that
hey, you should definitely check out Islam! its the only religion seen as directly from God (God told the angel Gabriel the sentences and Gabriel sent it to Muhammad with the reference to which verse and chapter it would be. The prophet Muhammad would tell his companions these verses and they worked out the order of the Quran years later). So Islam was initially an oral language. It also honours women very highly, a lot of the time their status is above men. It was the first and only religion to say women can own their own property, the money they make is only for themselves and what they wish (the male in the family pay for their needs), can divorce even for a reason such as not being satisfied sexually by her husband etc. You can check out this American guy Omar Suleiman, he has some really quick and easy to understand series on things like misconceptions about Islam. Norman Ali Khan is American and he's pretty good too. edit : typo
Definitely all made up, especially the Abrahamic faiths (Judaism, Christianity and Islam.) All the lies, manipulation and just bullshit in general.. people are slowly seeing it. I do believe religion can be a source of good but in my experience is a source of hurt more often.
This brought tears to my eyes. Well done to everyone. It's great to see there are men joining in on these protests also. It shows that some men at lest see women as fellow human beings and not property at their disposal. I will Jill a wonderful and happy life, free from restraints ❤ Keep doing what you are doing everyone, it's obviously working 💪
Education and earning power among women is the only thing that will help in the long term. Protect your daughters by ensuring they’re educated for financial independence and success.
Lol I love the Rabbi out there w a bullhorn, it definitely shows that there are good men out there. To fight for something because it’s right and not necessarily because it is something that affects you is heart warming and shout out to everyone involved your really did your thing
My friend (an Orthodox Rabbi) has been tagging a now former friend in every single FB post he does where it’s appropriate with things like “anyways in other news Aaron give ----- a get.” + “Get’s are all the rage these days Aaron”, it’s awesome.
Government is to stay separate from the law. The "get" has no actual legal power. It does not actually stop her from getting married outside her willfully following the religious laws around it. If the government were to start enforcing any religious laws it would be a violation of the 1st amendment. This is why so many people are fighting so hard right now against all the Christians that are trying to push their own religion as law.
MJW238 they grew up in the Orthodox community and being apart of that community, having relationships as defined by that community and keeping a home in line with those traditions is crucial to her. It’s not just about belief, it’s about you being integral to the community and community being integral to her. She couldn’t properly date or marry again within the Orthodox community without the get.
You mean start another denomination? King Henry VIII wanted to remarry but the pope/vatican said no. So he said, "alright fine, the English church is officially separating from papal authority." He also made himself the supreme head of the church of England (which quickly got him excommunicated) but essentially all he has done in the great scheme of things was create a new christian denomination. Even to this day it's around- it's known as Anglicanism/Episcopalian. So yeah...I dont think that lady really has the luxury to start a new denomination in Judaism XD
In secular law, a spouse can divorce their partner against their will. This video is stupid because it purposely failed to explain that a Jewish divorce requires the consent of BOTH the woman and the man. And the reality is that a psycho-husband that refuses to divorce his wife cannot get married to another person until he agrees to the divorce. The video purposely explained that inaccurately too because they want to make it seem like women have a monopoly on being helpless victims. Yes, there are unfortunately, like this woman, many PEOPLE in the world that are abused... both men and women being victims. And yes, like her husband, there are many PEOPLE in the world who abuse others. Why they always have to distort these kinds of situations to make it seem like it is all abuse against women and that is perpetuated by men... I don't understand...
@@binyaminroscher4516 its not true. Men without get move on and have kids, women cant. Unfortunatly, it is the law in Israel and there are many cases of women being unable to move on with their lives for 10+ yeaes while men in the same situation/the men who abuse this law can have new partners and have more kids.
@@1029-h4m R. Gershom passed three decrees way back when that are enforced. One was that men are no longer permitted to marry multiple wives. Another was that a man is not permitted to give a get to his wife against her will. No legitimate Orthodox Jewish Beis Din in Israel is going to force a divorce on a women who does not accept it. And no sane Beis Din is going to permit a man to marry multiple wives. If he has not given her a get, she is still married to him and if he married another woman, he would be considered to have multiple wives. I know a woman who works in Agunas and she said half the cases she deals with are men trapped by wives who will not accept a get. Thankfully, the huge majority of divorces go through successfully without one party holding out. But, in the minority of the cases where you are dealing with psychos, half of the pyschos are men and half of them are women, according to my friend who works with these cases. I know one case where the guy's wife wants $3 million dollars (he already paid her over $2.5 million) in order to accept his get. The guy lives in a one room apartment and drives a car over 15 years old. Tell him he can get remarried... he has not been able to...
Why would you want to force someone to stay married to you? The religion has control of her not her ex husband. Stop being a slave to it. Putting your life on hold for a piece of paper while he moves on is just dumb.
Uhhhhh. No. The religion did not make this man an abusive schmuck. Her refusal is about power, control, and the mans own need for attention. Please stop trying to speak like our thousands of years of culture, tradition and faith are comparable to the religions (*religion, as it’s one and it’s Christianity) you hate. It’s not.
@@KeshetAylonit yeah, but I think you missed the part where the same religion *allows* for that abusive behaviour. So what’s it gonna be? Is he allowed to do it or not? People want to have their cake and eat it too: that’s the problem.
1:36 watching her prepare that chicken so skillfully while speaking about her whole ordeal you can definitely see the tension and anger going through this. She takes her faith seriously.
The crazy ways(crazy to me at least) are outrageous. They call themselves gods children. They are no better than slave owners. The Orthodox part are no better that the mafia. These women deserve much better.
Don't jump to conclusions. The model of divorce is sexist by today's standards, but in Judaism a man who refuses to give a get is considered to be the lowest of the low and such an occurrence is very rare, but it does happen. The vast majority of communities will pretty much excommunicate a get refuser. Such a man is usually deemed ineligible to participate in certain rituals like the Torah reading. Just this week, one of the chief rabbis in Israel refused to bury a man's wife until he gives his wife a get.
I say it as i see it. I may not be worldly in terms of marriage rituals. But when shit like this happens to one of the oldest religious sects on theplanet,then there is definitely something wrong in the Jewish faith. As bad or worse that the Catholics.
Religion as a whole is organized stupidity. I have no doubt that your religion is equally stupid. For example, Judaism is run rampant with sexual predictors that are protected by the Rabbi's.
He could have given that to her long ago, it was just petty for him not too. And it took a bunch of college and HS students and the ORA organization along with the jewish community and Rabbi's down in Florida to check his behavior and get him to the table.
Wow being a African American i didn't know dis was a thing. Its crazy how people luv to oppress others jus to exude power most times bc they are cowards or powerless in other parts of their life 🤦♂️ glad they helped free Jill! Congrats Queen! Stay 💪
How can you guys just pick and choose with traditions and laws you like and throw out the others. Either you keep the covenant with HaShem or you don’t.
SHE GOT THE GET!! WOOHOO!! As for the raw chicken on the granite countertop, I don't think it's as bad as it seems because granite doesn't scratch. Still, it's gross. Use a cutting board ffs.
So heres the deal... I believe she keeps kosher which means she has a meat side of the kitchen and a diary side of the kitchen. Different set of utensils and countertops. A true kosher kitchen is so clean you can eat off the counter tops.
Reason 173939 why I’m an atheist. I’m all for freedom of choice of course, but damn all these religions are in need of updates. It should be like iOS with a yearly update lol. How unfair was that for the man to be able to remarry without the get and not the woman. Misogyny needs to be abolished.
I found myself teary eyed when she announced that she finally managed to get a Get. It's sad to see a woman have to fight to get her freedom for that long.
bubbletea14 😂 If you’re not Jewish I see how you can perceive our religion that way. However to us those rules and traditions are the bonds that have kept our people together for 3,000 years and are the aspects of our covenant with god.
@@KeshetAylonit Well that's not entirely true. Judaism, however decentralized, does have organization. If Judaism isn't an organized religion, than many Protestant Christian denominations aren't either.
Y’all 2 charter bus fulls of people flew to a whole other state to shame this man into giving his exwife a folded piece of paper! And then once they got there the local Jewish community jumped in and supported the effort. Amazing. Never seen anything like it.
Imagine being so petty it takes 60 random college kids and teenagers shouting at you to get you to do the right thing.
What’s beautiful to see is the younger generations putting an end to the practices the old decided to hide. These kids are doing incredible work.
Alrightthenlad an end to the ability for narcissistic husbands to have one last thing to control their wives. Religiously, the women cannot remarry. They cannot date. Those men know that, and THAT is why they refuse to sign the papers. But sure, what a GREAT religious practice 🥴
Lmao. For that reason alone I would move and never divorce
@@-MaryPoppins- I dated a Lebanese woman once.. she mentioned if she divorced and had children she would feel no need to date again (even worse remarry). I saw this to be altruistic and responded in a positive way.. she looked at me and said.. "it's okay if you remarry, you're an American *man*" I explained how I felt about it.. she looked at me again and said "it's hard to believe you wouldn't remarry as well.. if you are genuine then you are an almost perfect man".. the conversations I had with her were .. eccentric to say the least. But I learned so much of myself with her.
Michael Sotomayor I’m a Muslim women and I have rights. Go learn about rights Muslim women have in Islam. Don’t lump us all together please.
As a side note, bless the Jewish men who also shamed these men who refused to give a get. They understood it was wrong and held others accountable when they didn't have to.
Yes!!
Did you see al those Diet Coke looking things ? I think she’s a coke addict that why her marriage ended.
@@jujugohard4289 Internet sherlock over here.
The women didn’t have to hold these men accountable either. Bless them both equally. Men don’t get a trophy for simply doing what women have already been doing.
@@Whatsayoutuber unfortunately even to this day, its still more shocking to see men doing what women do anyways
It's not a double edged sword. It's a single edged dagger with the point pointed at her.
@HKZ P I don't think it's racist to want to marry someone of the same race. More likely to have things in common. However, I'm not about to make any apologies on behalf of organized religon or its adherents, but this needed to happen. Sure you and I think it's not a big deal, but this guy was being spiteful. Fucking prick he was.
@HKZ P dumb fucking idea, true. But there are considerations other than mutual attraction to take into account when appraising a prospective partner. How they get along with their family and what have you. Since most people are religious, this is common to think about. You're expecting too much when you think an instance like this will shatter some nutjob's view of their entire religion. Much like tipping, the people/things to blame have managed to have us bicket amongst ourselves. Just as waiters can hold a grudge against a bad tipper when it's his/her boss that's actually underpaying them, it's far simpler to rationalise such a circumstance as being the product of a single (not technically I guess) asshole's spite and pettyness rather than the ideological shortcomings of their religion as a whole.
@HKZ P converts are fine to marry, in Judaism. It's not racism. You can't convert to a race smdh... but you sound awfully a lot like an antisemite
@HKZ P so? It's not about his race. If the same person were to convert, she would not have the same reservations i.e. you are totally wrong.
@HKZ P you don't understand what bigotry means. Wanting a partner of the same religion is a sensible choice, and not an irrational prejudice i.e. bigotry. Maybe, try learning the meaning of words before you use them next time, genius...
Public shame by your own community is the most powerful pressure you can have. If everyone knows your wrongs then they can influence you to change.
BrownRiceBunny1 That’s the same kind of shaming by your own community which keeps women oppressed by religions and conservative social norms.
People say they should keep things like these private and solve it yourself alot. I disagree. At a certain point you need the public shaming and pressure to get them to stop being absolute dicks and holding things over you. Especially if it's something they want to shut you up, they know it's wrong , they are embarrassed to let others know but still does it as long as no one knows for years and years on end . By this time , you need that loud and clear public airing to get their asses in gear since that's the only thing that they are ashamed of and the only thing that will move them
@@MJW238 And so... ? What's your point? The solution to that problem is to change the social and cultural norms, not abandon public pressure as a tactic. As long as communities exist, this tactic will exist and will remain effective because humans are social animals who rely on community to function.
which is why the right wing wants it outlawed
She's lucky her ex is still in the States...I've heard cases where folks had to be chased down as far as Israel...
Well regretfully I'm pretty sure the persons that hijacked my will live in Israel .
The man who left me in his will was like a father to me , had no children , wasn't married ... but he did tell me he didn't think he was going to go to Israel anymore to visit his half-brothers' because he said during every visit they would pressure him to leave everything in his will to them .
@@gardensofthegods I'm so sorry, that sounds horrible. You should reach out to the above organization and see if they could help with you situation. I believe they help women in various situation, not just those dealing with divorce.
Sorry about your eye kitty
@@gardensofthegods that's horrible... sorry.
@@ms.rstake_1211 yeah usually don't talk about it or think about it but if friends was asking me about the whole thing just the other day .
It triggers me that a folded piece of paper is all it would take. Like how a sock is all it took for Dobby to no longer be someone's property.
The paper itself has no value, people apply value/meaning to that, otherwise, useless piece of paper. Like if I gave you a check worth a billion dollars could change your life. But if I told you the check was cashable in monopoly money, you'd be pissed. Lol.
That is a fantastic analogy
Because traditions usually put women in a lower class and seen as property. From Asia to africa to Europe. Women traditionally played a roll of "wife. Mother. Property. Used to be traded for peace deals/ arrange power marriages.
Yet these women bend over backwards to satisfy these outdated traditions. 🤦♀️🤦♂️
It's not the piece of paper, it's what is written on it. It's just like any other contract.
@@B.D.B. it's a piece of paper
I'm not Jewish but I'm down to rally for this cause!
Me too.
Me Too!!!!!
Same
Same!
SAME!
she was abused and everybody is talking about the raw chicken on the countertop lol
abuse won't kill you but that chicken could
This is why she was abused.... in her 50’s still can’t get her shit together
@Randy Steele And she was legally free to remarrie, but shes so stupid that she wants to remarry again under the Jewish religion.
Yeah......lack of brain cells
You probably couldn’t find a cleaner kitchen!
As a Catholic divorced woman, I applaud her strength and persistence also what an amazing organization. Shame on shitty and abusive ex partners!!
It's extremely unfortunate the way the catholic church handles there divorces. The only way is thru an annulment. Saying it was all a mistake and u cant do that if u have kids
Christianity stems from Judaism. They could’ve stuck with Judaism’s divorce system but they shot themselves in the foot when they outlaw divorces as wrong & that even marriage was sinful in nature. That’s not what Judaism says so it’s more back handed to get divorced in Catholicism
It would be nice if the Catholic church could grant dispensation to all Catholics that want to divorce. The only ones that seem to get it are rich people. Celine Dion anyone?
sheila not true. It’s saying that in a sense, for ecclesiastical purposes, it never occurred. Divorce has no effect on the status of children in the church. They aren’t “bastards” like in the days of Henry VIII.
@@jimb6554 What on earth are you talking about. Any catholic can get a divorce if they want it its not "outlawed", we aren't living in the middle ages anymore. Also Catholicism does not believe that marriage is sinful. I mean really what are you smoking.
What kinda "I don't want you but I don't want you to be with anyone else" crap is this? SMH he should have been gave it to her.
*Love that there is an organization that these women can turn to for help!*
Actually, they do not need that help at all.
You just can denounce that moronic religion and go and get married with someone you love. That is not that difficult.
But if you are a brainwashed sheep in a religion, instead you search for help for stupid situations you create yourself.
There is an organization that can help everyone. It's called let go your outdated beliefs because it's so obviously silly to everyone else.
If she wants to follow her faith it's her desicion and all it took was a paper what he did is essentially trying to push her out of a community she grew up in 8 may not be Jewish but I grew up in the community and her not getting one would probably get her shunned from her home that shes know her whole life her friends her family her people would you like that to happen
@@NotChrisXXX good example of how religious communities prison their members against their interests.
Same for muslim women who cannot uncover their heads because their communities will shun them.
Religion is the enemy of humanity.
Group of silly women accomodating the ridiculous superstitions of other women.
love this kind of activism. this is real solidarity.
@HKZ P when did judaism become a race?
@HKZ P I'm not a religious person, apart from my Catholic upbringing. I just see the solidarity. I'll stand in support with every victim of oppression every time it's needed, but you're making a caricature of religion. It's just a fact of life that groups of people have always generated rules for life, good and bad, long before the modern system of lawmaking was conceived. I read Hitchens, Dawkins, Krauss,... and can understand anyone having a reactionary phase where they make the trial of all religions. Though there's very legitimate criticism, this can also become a good way to make yourself miserable, by not wanting to see the good in people. I hope you'll realize that everyone who gets to put religion, which was generated over centuries, under the loop of hyperreason, often devoid of necessary historic context, is probably in a luxuary position to do so. That's not the position most people are in. Given your inflammatory rhetoric and your eagerness to condemn, are you certain you won't be as bad as the 'evil' you're supposedly against. Real practical change comes through activism, understanding, tollerance, nuance, outreach, ... not condemnation and polarisation, which is too easy, symplistic and more emotionally fuelled than reason wants to admit, or there would be no need for swearing.
HKZ P “they” - common mistake
HKZ P nothing wrong with swearing, just indicative of an emotional argument
@HKZ P Wanting to date someone of the same faith isn't racist lmao, it's no different than wanting to date someone with a similar value system. If she looked at Black Jewish men (eg, the Beta Israel) and refused them because they were Black then that would be racist, but that's not what she said.
Public shaming works miracles! What is done in the dark will come to light
for the night is dark and full of terrors.
Public shaming and conservative social norms are the very pressures used to oppress women in these communities.
Look at cancel culture. Men (mostly) in power tremble at the thought of faceless masses ending their careers over decades-old bad behavior.
@@MomMom4Cubs cancel culture can be used to make innocent people suffer. You need to be really carefull in what you think is just.
@@paulgotik ....or cancel culture is a way for the public to purge the problematic people, say like Trump, Jeffree Star, Logan Paul, Bill Barr, Steve Bannon, and corrupt officers who kill.
It’s the most Jewish/Israeli thing ever to start loudly arguing in Hebrew on the street corner.
Weren't they arguing in Yiddish?
@@efolinsky no, hebrew
@@joshuacrommie6249
I made a mistake. You are correct.
Israel - where the culture is a mixture of all and also non. Does come out as shouting in the street corner sometimes...
@@efolinsky Cuz she's from Israel
I’ve never found of a religion that wasn’t inherently sexist towards woman.
Wicca
@EthanBrow and that place just happens to be below men huh?
In Israel if a man doesn't give his wife a get they go to prison I think
EthanBrow do what is my certain place in society as a women?
@EthanBrow it isn't a woman's duty, my aunt works full time while my uncle stays at home and takes care of the children because he wants to and they're happily living their married life.
Stop trying to make it one, I know you've been fed this stuff for an eternity and you gladly accept it because it's convenient but there's still time to change.
Goes to show theirs DISCRIMINATION for woman with in the Jewish community too. The fact that this organization is doing their best to support the people that go to them for help, it's a beautiful thing.
As an Orthodox Jewish teenage girl, I can definitely confirm that. The second I turn 18, I'm buying my first pair of pants and I won't be afraid to say to my old school "I'm Lesbian. Fight me."
@@Shalalalala_666 Please forgive my ignorance, but I thought the internet was forbidden in the Orthodox Jewish religion. Is that so?
@@susango123 No, within the Orthodox community, there are different levels of observance, like the rest of the Jewish community. Some Rabbis allow it, and this is why you will see Modern Orthodox, Chabad etc. online. But some of the more strict sects don’t, or only allow specific sites or topics. Much like many faiths, indigenous + ethno-religions (like Judaism), or organized (Christian, Islam, Buddhism, Wicca etc.) you have different levels of observance or interpretations. Though I do get suspicious when someone claims to actively be part of a sect that I know is definitely not online, and majority do not speak fluent English, like the Satmar for example.
@@KeshetAylonit Thank you for the explanation. It's very much appreciated.
I agree cutting Chicken on the countertop is gross. You know what I find more gross? Disengaging about a woman who's suffered abuse and it is finally free. To complain about chicken that that she didn't talk about and you aren't making, you ain't cooking, you ain't eating, and you're not cleaning up after it either. And I feel like you're missing the point on purpose. You want an ability to be shity. And the piece of chicken is the only part you can feel like you can poke at a woman who's been slighted for 15 years on just that one issue. Either make a quality fucking joke and/or actually engaged upon the videos content which follows semicolon abuse. Religious law. Differences between legal and religious marriages. The gender disparity. And a whole host of other political and social issues.
'How did the chicken wipe the counter?
With its breast!'
I wish i could pin your comment.
@@lastchance1101 thank you!
She was free to remarry the minute she was legally divorced. Nevermind some religious nonsense.
Thank you. Underrated comment.
The cross contamination 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮
I’m so happy she was able to be freed from her ex. As a domestic abuse survivor, this brought up a lot of emotions for me . Her ex may not have physically hit her, but he was mentally and emotionally abusive holding the get over her head.
in the uk get refusal is actually classed as domestic abuse
I am in awe with how many ppl they were able to get outside that man's house. I want to learn protest organization from the Jewish community.
It helps that jewish communities are very tightly knit. It's not just about the religion, but a shared culture, and there's a feeling of community that makes the people mobilize fast.
The pure joy on her face and voice when she finally received her spiritual divorce was just heartbreaking. To know she suffered for so long thinking she’ll never have the chance to remarry or be rid of him - what an awesome organization.
Poor lady. Why men do this. Its infuriating. She deserves all happiness in the world
True but far more men suffer from lowlife women that’s why people like you stay single.
"Oh let me put his picture here. Andrew's picture here. Should we put his picture here? Let me go print it out." I like Ms. Yael Bellin, she is all business, and no games.
What a brilliant organisation!
They’ve done more to help than the religious leaders!
No. There's a lot more going on behind tbe scenes. And ORA wouldn't take my case🙄
Debra C Im curious as to why?
The get has to be given of the mans own free will or it is not valid
@@redrose1806 false. Ur allowed to pressure him
@@dmenwatson1954 yes you're allowed to pressure him into believing that he has made a mistake and he must give it of his own free will, such as that his life is being better if you stopped putting him in charem.
In tears, this activism is beautiful. Such strong supporting women
Why religion and law should have nothing to do with each other. Laws are flexible and change with society
The thing was it is separated in this situation. However she believes she needed a religious divorce. She can marry but in her belives it would be wrong
@@destinyruiz7666 True but it is maybe because she may want to find another Jewish partner and keep the culture going or maybe it is symbolic and she feels as though she wants to cut all ties with her ex, but your distinction holds true because it is kind of absurd to let a "religious" book from allowing you to move on with your life.
@@ousmanecamara8606 it's not absurd to her. It's her belife and i will respect it
The problem is that the Torah is law.
Because of her superstitious beliefs she couldn’t remarry. Legally she could remarry and but non existent things stopped her.
It’s really sad how dumb beliefs can hold a person back for several years. From an outsider perspective it’s so easy to mock other religions for their irrational beliefs. Take a good look at your own religion and you’ll soon be laughing just the same.
@Anonymous Panacea Christianity doesn't even have a rule book. And the book they stole and claim to believe in, they just ignore everything they don't understand or find inconvenient, and beat others down with the parts they feel don't apply to them.
Anonymous Panacea Catholicism doesn’t even recognize divorce lmaoooo
Which is why I'm an atheist. Religion (all) is a cancer on society. The only worthwhile thing they teach is to love others but you don't need religion. To be a good person.
sweetboo1022 The good thing about Judaism is you don’t have to follow all the laws depending on what denomination you’re in. This video focused on one sect, orthodoxy, which is the strictest. I honestly question and doubt the existence of God every day but I never question my Jewishness because of the sense of community that comes along with it. Going to my grandparents every Friday for Shabbat and singing/praying, it’s beautiful. Being an Atheist and refusing religion does not make you better, and you’re being self righteous if you think it does. We all have our own beliefs and I value yours, but it doesn’t seem like you value mine or anyone’s beliefs really if they’re not your own.
@Anonymous Panacea ...😲😲the hipocrysy..... all religions have bullshit rules to control the masses... dont be offended its ok.
ANDREW FELDMAN GAVE HIS WIFE A GET!
This is so cool. I actually starting crying when she got her get. 😭
Stupid cry baby
Nikki Russell same!!! She’s been fighting for so long!
@HKZ P correction she won't date outside her religion. You are racist and a bigot. All you seem to want to do is point out her religion and call her out for not wanting to go outside of it. Are you Andrew? Angry you had to get divorced?
Me too 😭 so emotional. So happy for her
I wept for her, too. Sorry you got so many haters responding to your kind and caring comment. Mean people SUCK!
I think it's amazing that even man and Rabi's are protesting with them to get a woman a Get!!!
*men and Rabbis
It's good for Rabbinim (rabbi - plural) to stand for justice. The definition of "Rabbi" is a vague concept because today's rabbanim are bought and paid for (unless you work with the right rabbi). For example, there could be a spouse that could bribe the religious court to favor their side. So a woman with a rich father could make it possible for a Get to be written due to some financial influences (even if the claim is wrong). Some women are liars, and some men are abusers. It's a bit more complicated than people realize.
I mean, take into consideration the couple in this video. They could both be attention-loving people. She wants a video made about her relationship, and he wants people yelling his name at his front door. They might [also] both be addicts.
When at the end Jill said she was "dying", I thought, no, you are now free to be living! What a fantastic organization. When I saw all of those protesters from the Boca Raton Temple a tear welled up in my eye. For people to so selflessly work for another's benefit whom they do not know is so touching! Mazel tov Jill!!
When I was doing some family research I found a lead that led me to an old census on divorce rate within the Jewish community (NY funny enough - turned out to be someone else/ our name misspelled) and as I was reading I couldn't help but want to cry -- domestic abuse; denied cheated on; denied physical violence; denied denied denied denied - all those women denied a divorce even though on official paperwork you see how many filed due to abuse - disgusting
Half the comments will be about raw chicken and cutting board, i suppose
💯% correct!
considering all the laws about Kosher kitchens, (originally based on health concerns) clearly didn't help here
Lexa Garvey - You’ve just restated one of the more prevalent myths about Judaism. Kosher laws were not based on health concerns - that is backwards rationalization and utter nonsense, which has no more validity than the folk etymology of “posh” being “Port Outbound Starboard Home” referring to the location of the more comfortable cabins out of the intense sun for ships running between Britain and India.
I Want To Be A Hive Mind So Bad - Your folks might want to obtain a refund on the tuition and fees they paid for your Hebrew school education. Lots of people share your views, but none of them are serious Talmudic scholars (or their Muslim counterparts). Jewish dietary laws have a much higher spiritual origin than a lack of refrigeration in the desert, but it admittedly requires a capacity for abstract thought to comprehend that.
Seeing all those people get together for Jill makes me teary-eyed. It goes to show, you never really are alone in your struggle and there will always be people willing to lend a helping hand.
When your ex-wife celebrates the divorce, you know you need to rethink about yourself as a person.
1) I am VERY happy for her. Her ex must have been a complete shit bag for not not doing this for her when they first got divorced.
2) I'm glad I'm not the only one reacting to cutting chicken without a cutting board!
I'm happy for her. This seems like a great organization
I just got chills. How scary that a man can have that much control. I've never met a devout Jewish woman (or man) in my little town. But if I could I would absolutely help her with this show of strength.
All these people freaking out over the lack of a cutting board as though soap and water don't exist and she's going to chop fruit in that same spot, raw bird juices and all. There are more people in the world who don't have cutting boards than there are who do. It's a convenience, not a vital necessity.
This organization is bad ass, I love it 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
What a strange way to live... What a strange way to think...
Yeah.. who cuts raw chicken on their countertop...?
You think this is strange? You should look up some translated verses from their most cherished holy book, the Talmud.
Yea. Stranger than some guy becoming a zombie after being executed and then disappearing.
@@mightywhitey5974 you would be an idiot, then. It's written to be learned, not read. It's partly a legal document, so at times, it discusses the extremes of the law (things that may never happen) from the amoral perspective (evaluating facts, assumptions and conclusion, not necessarily morality. For example "What sin would be punished more severely?"), as to elucidate it more clearly, in order to apply it to complex real life situations.
Leo Tsisin it is a little retarded to think god would respect the withholding of a gett from an ex partner for years.... to believe you still have something to fight for morally is a bit hypocritical to thinking god is “all good”, unless you don’t deserve to marry again
The Jewish community should set strict bylaws for cutting chicken without a cutting board.
Chicken swingers are above the law.
Was wondering
Thank you. That triggered the shit out of me.
Chatty216 notice that none of those men were still practicing the religion. It’s like calling all white people racist. It ain’t true
You're not witty. You're basic.
I hope she can find the REAL love of her life now, or at LEAST a wonderful & genuinely caring/loving male companion to grow with 💙💙💙
*Dreams* WOW you put up the only positive comment on youtube! Thanks!!!
Shout out to all the ones who were out there fighting for her and standing their ground! It’s amazing to see so much support and love for others.
If this was a Muslim everyone would be talking about it
Lol isn't that exactly what's being done here?
Can Muslims divorce and re marry?
@@Nanasmama muslim women can divorce and remarry in a mutual consenting decision with their husband. However if the husband sticks on and she wants to leave she can go to the nearby mosque and ask the imam for divorce. However Muslims do not follow this now they follow cultural and societal traditions which has led them away from the true islam
@@Nanasmama a Muslim man may divorce at will without any need of justification. A muslim woman needs to go to a cleric or Sharia court and give evidence for impotence or cruelty or abandonment before being granted divorce. It's more difficult for women to be divorced than men in general but it's possible.
@@apoorvavishnoi6979 she can also get divorce without any reason.
It's the case in Morocco (we have islam as a state religion and "sharia" aka medieval law for personal affairs like marriage and stuff).
LOLOLOLOL at the comments... Raw chicken on the counter?! Cutting with knives on granite?!
Yup. Your supposed to be able to use a knife and not mess up the granite.
@@flickertheflame the *counter* isn't the issue! We feel bad for the knife :(
When life gives you lemons, get a cutting board
wow learned so much in a video happy for her she got her divorce complete.
What did you learn?
Ah yes, gotta love ancient patriarchal values and double standards meant to control women
@Marco Chiacchiari misogynist // incel alert🚨😂
I'm actually crying. I find what the protestors are doing so beautiful and inspiring. Great video!
Rather than inspiring i found it sad that people still today are willing to allow themselves to be trapped in repressive taboos and cultures.
There's a woman who was only recently released from her marriage a fret 15yrs of being an agunah and only because there was a refusal to bury his recently passed mother until he did the right thing
Brainwashing in humanity is so deep lol but so shallow all at the same time
Thank you vice for mentioning that it’s illegal according to Jewish law nowadays for a man to remarry until he gives a get
Serious question, if a person does something aginst jewish law, what actually happens? Does that individual get barred from the church or are they denied access to heaven?
@@fir877 We don't heaven
Why Christians don’t do dis also?
Brandon Reeves depending on how serious and what type he and his family can could expelled from the community or he could get 39 lashes and the two worst punishments r death or loss of heaven for him and his whole family
@Bob Mama Leave the children be. They can then choose what they want to do/follow as *adults*
What kind of sick person is Andrew? I mean what is she? his property? To wait for someone to give you permission to remarry for years, I don't know how she did it. If it was me I would have just bashed Andrew's head in some dark alley.
You should look for the podcast about the "prodfather" .... some people did go more that route
It's not like we have separation of church and state or anything.
Vile Crocodile We do - this was all in her own mind.
The state seems to comply by not challenging religious court rooms and saying nope this is bullshit.
@Toussaints' Wrath true!i was referring to religious influence on the legal system though.
When a woman wants to go, let her go. 🙏🏾
Its nice to see so many men in the community caring about the woman's wellbeing.
Idk why but it makes me so happy knowing that people will literally protest outside these men’s homes and places of work for refusing to let there ex wife go.
This is the reason when everyone should realize that religion is literally man-made! It is not some god or gods who invented these bullshit laws! Religion could do and does a lot of good, but it has to be equal for everyone and not biased towards someone!
That said, this is also why i dont understand why anyone would join a religion. You can believe in what you want and follow traditions you want, you dont need any priest or church or book or anything behind you to do that
If that were the case, there would be no accountability.
hey, you should definitely check out Islam!
its the only religion seen as directly from God (God told the angel Gabriel the sentences and Gabriel sent it to Muhammad with the reference to which verse and chapter it would be. The prophet Muhammad would tell his companions these verses and they worked out the order of the Quran years later). So Islam was initially an oral language.
It also honours women very highly, a lot of the time their status is above men. It was the first and only religion to say women can own their own property, the money they make is only for themselves and what they wish (the male in the family pay for their needs), can divorce even for a reason such as not being satisfied sexually by her husband etc.
You can check out this American guy Omar Suleiman, he has some really quick and easy to understand series on things like misconceptions about Islam.
Norman Ali Khan is American and he's pretty good too.
edit : typo
Just like George Carlin said, it's all made up b.s.
@@andycalimara Really? How so.
Definitely all made up, especially the Abrahamic faiths (Judaism, Christianity and Islam.) All the lies, manipulation and just bullshit in general.. people are slowly seeing it. I do believe religion can be a source of good but in my experience is a source of hurt more often.
This brought tears to my eyes.
Well done to everyone. It's great to see there are men joining in on these protests also. It shows that some men at lest see women as fellow human beings and not property at their disposal.
I will Jill a wonderful and happy life, free from restraints ❤
Keep doing what you are doing everyone, it's obviously working 💪
Education and earning power among women is the only thing that will help in the long term. Protect your daughters by ensuring they’re educated for financial independence and success.
I don't often cry but this one got me. As an abuse survivor I felt her tears if joy when she was free
Lol I love the Rabbi out there w a bullhorn, it definitely shows that there are good men out there. To fight for something because it’s right and not necessarily because it is something that affects you is heart warming and shout out to everyone involved your really did your thing
My friend (an Orthodox Rabbi) has been tagging a now former friend in every single FB post he does where it’s appropriate with things like “anyways in other news Aaron give ----- a get.” + “Get’s are all the rage these days Aaron”, it’s awesome.
If they don't give the get, put them in prison. It's an abuse of power using religion.
Don't know if it's law?
Government is to stay separate from the law. The "get" has no actual legal power. It does not actually stop her from getting married outside her willfully following the religious laws around it. If the government were to start enforcing any religious laws it would be a violation of the 1st amendment. This is why so many people are fighting so hard right now against all the Christians that are trying to push their own religion as law.
The silly woman is free to get remarried any time she wants.
It’s her own ridiculous superstitions causing her problems.
Yes, in Israel there're people doing 15- 20 year for this.
These women are not being held hostage by their husbands, they are hostages to their own beliefs; chains they have the power to break at anytime
MJW238 they grew up in the Orthodox community and being apart of that community, having relationships as defined by that community and keeping a home in line with those traditions is crucial to her. It’s not just about belief, it’s about you being integral to the community and community being integral to her. She couldn’t properly date or marry again within the Orthodox community without the get.
As a current wife to that mn, I would be so humiliated and get a divorce myself😅
Do what King Henry VIII did, rewrite the holy book.
He never did this.
He made generous provisions.
😅
@@varun009 The Holy book was never changed. The churches were changed and the church doctrine was changed in England, not the Bible.
You mean start another denomination? King Henry VIII wanted to remarry but the pope/vatican said no. So he said, "alright fine, the English church is officially separating from papal authority." He also made himself the supreme head of the church of England (which quickly got him excommunicated) but essentially all he has done in the great scheme of things was create a new christian denomination. Even to this day it's around- it's known as Anglicanism/Episcopalian.
So yeah...I dont think that lady really has the luxury to start a new denomination in Judaism XD
Kudos to the good men and women who turned up to help that lady, I love these types of stories, it's what every community should be like!
The only thing this video shows is an example of how stupid religious ideas can be..
In secular law, a spouse can divorce their partner against their will. This video is stupid because it purposely failed to explain that a Jewish divorce requires the consent of BOTH the woman and the man. And the reality is that a psycho-husband that refuses to divorce his wife cannot get married to another person until he agrees to the divorce. The video purposely explained that inaccurately too because they want to make it seem like women have a monopoly on being helpless victims.
Yes, there are unfortunately, like this woman, many PEOPLE in the world that are abused... both men and women being victims. And yes, like her husband, there are many PEOPLE in the world who abuse others. Why they always have to distort these kinds of situations to make it seem like it is all abuse against women and that is perpetuated by men... I don't understand...
@@binyaminroscher4516 she can legally get remarried, her ex can't stop her moving on
@@binyaminroscher4516 its not true. Men without get move on and have kids, women cant. Unfortunatly, it is the law in Israel and there are many cases of women being unable to move on with their lives for 10+ yeaes while men in the same situation/the men who abuse this law can have new partners and have more kids.
@@1029-h4m R. Gershom passed three decrees way back when that are enforced. One was that men are no longer permitted to marry multiple wives. Another was that a man is not permitted to give a get to his wife against her will. No legitimate Orthodox Jewish Beis Din in Israel is going to force a divorce on a women who does not accept it. And no sane Beis Din is going to permit a man to marry multiple wives. If he has not given her a get, she is still married to him and if he married another woman, he would be considered to have multiple wives. I know a woman who works in Agunas and she said half the cases she deals with are men trapped by wives who will not accept a get. Thankfully, the huge majority of divorces go through successfully without one party holding out. But, in the minority of the cases where you are dealing with psychos, half of the pyschos are men and half of them are women, according to my friend who works with these cases. I know one case where the guy's wife wants $3 million dollars (he already paid her over $2.5 million) in order to accept his get. The guy lives in a one room apartment and drives a car over 15 years old. Tell him he can get remarried... he has not been able to...
Why would you want to force someone to stay married to you? The religion has control of her not her ex husband. Stop being a slave to it. Putting your life on hold for a piece of paper while he moves on is just dumb.
Judaism is more then 1 bad rule. Telling her to revoke her faith is a bit much.
Uhhhhh. No. The religion did not make this man an abusive schmuck. Her refusal is about power, control, and the mans own need for attention. Please stop trying to speak like our thousands of years of culture, tradition and faith are comparable to the religions (*religion, as it’s one and it’s Christianity) you hate. It’s not.
@@KeshetAylonit yeah, but I think you missed the part where the same religion *allows* for that abusive behaviour. So what’s it gonna be? Is he allowed to do it or not? People want to have their cake and eat it too: that’s the problem.
women deserve freedom. freedom to love and to chose who to love.
Triggered by raw chicken on a countertop...
That's so awful and gross... Right beside the sink too... I wonder if she even wiped down first? But either way it's still gross
TopShot501st lol, I was thinking the same thing 🤦🏾♂️
That counter might be porous as well. ugh
It’s granite so technically you can cut on it as long as you sanitize before and after. Still looks gross tho lol
Thank you
1:36 watching her prepare that chicken so skillfully while speaking about her whole ordeal you can definitely see the tension and anger going through this. She takes her faith seriously.
What an empowering video. Support from a Jewish man.
A good old public shaming, I wish this could work on everyone but some people don't have any shame so.....
I wonder why religious stuff like this only applies to men.. 🤔 Could it be that's because men WROTE THE DAMN THING? 🤔😱🙄
Exactly!
ya we know lol
Yup and they say God wrote it/influenced it when everyone religion is MAN-mad
In Judaism's case - it's exactly that.
The crazy ways(crazy to me at least) are outrageous. They call themselves gods children.
They are no better than slave owners. The Orthodox part are no better that the mafia. These women deserve much better.
Don't jump to conclusions. The model of divorce is sexist by today's standards, but in Judaism a man who refuses to give a get is considered to be the lowest of the low and such an occurrence is very rare, but it does happen.
The vast majority of communities will pretty much excommunicate a get refuser. Such a man is usually deemed ineligible to participate in certain rituals like the Torah reading. Just this week, one of the chief rabbis in Israel refused to bury a man's wife until he gives his wife a get.
@Bill Anderson and where will the "free thought" lead us without tradition? Nowhere. Solipsism and Nihilism would be the final destination...
@@Wolferine07 a man's mother*
@@B.D.B. that's cold.
I say it as i see it. I may not be worldly in terms of marriage rituals. But when shit like this happens to one of the oldest religious sects on theplanet,then there is definitely something wrong in the Jewish faith. As bad or worse that the Catholics.
ah man, the raw chicken on the counter top.. really?!
I caught that and it bothered the shit out of me!
@Speaking Truth THIS GUY ^...
It's a meat table. It gets cleaned after use.
@@abz998 meat table is what i call the bed in my sex dungeon
Mikerphone that’s fucking hawt my dude. Make sure to invite me next time ;)
4:59 the cop was like: bring me back to the crack houses
Yeah.
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Thankful everyday I didn't grow up in any religion with these type of rules
Religion as a whole is organized stupidity. I have no doubt that your religion is equally stupid. For example, Judaism is run rampant with sexual predictors that are protected by the Rabbi's.
@@incipidsigninsetup no, you are confusing Judaism with Catholicism.
@@incipidsigninsetup I'm actually an atheist lol.. I don't believe in any of that nonsense
You were saved a lot of extra stress and ridiculousness 👍
I think she meant double standard, not doubled edged sword.
He could have given that to her long ago, it was just petty for him not too. And it took a bunch of college and HS students and the ORA organization along with the jewish community and Rabbi's down in Florida to check his behavior and get him to the table.
Her ex is such a spiteful petty little man.
So this is what Ben Shapiro's divorce will look like. Good to know!
you are a jerk. I suspect your snarky comment comes from a place of darkness.....jealousy perhaps.
Lmao. He'd definitely be the type to refuse to give her a get.
@@alicethemadrabbit1842 His wife's a doctor.
@@maryjones6115 ok?
@@alicethemadrabbit1842 It was a joke That is Ben's go to line, "my wife's a doctor"
How touching the work they are doing!!!! God bles ora!
13YRS JUST "COZ"????!!!! PURE INSANITY!!! It was was so cool that they prayed at the airport before the protest.
Why does a woman need a permission to be divorced
Zengcong Lai technically she is divorced, but in her religion she is not. Emphasis on its her religion, her customs
Because almost all religions , especially Judaism regard women as an inferior burden, with a few useful purposes. Most men , down deep despise women.
@@DeezNuts-th3ce *culture
Mazoltov!! Amazing 👏 this brought tears to my eyes! What an act of solidarity 👏 and selflessness in a commonly selfish world 🌎
Woman got her freedom back
Fareen Mohamed She always had freedom. It’s just sad that the prison was built by her community, beliefs, and mindset.
Amazing work. I wish Catholics had advocates for the annulment process. One day it will progress.
Typically it’s not that difficult for Catholics in the west lol
Wow being a African American i didn't know dis was a thing. Its crazy how people luv to oppress others jus to exude power most times bc they are cowards or powerless in other parts of their life 🤦♂️ glad they helped free Jill! Congrats Queen! Stay 💪
There should be a distinction between sects of Judaism. Reform Judaism does not make you get a gette to remarry. This is the orthodox community.
reform Judaism isn't Jewish anymore, (it's closer to neo-Catholicism).
How can you guys just pick and choose with traditions and laws you like and throw out the others. Either you keep the covenant with HaShem or you don’t.
God I love the people who do this. This is a great organization. I hope Jill has an incredible life and finds love and is happy.
This is abuse. Why does a woman need a “get” but once the divorce goes through in court the husband is Scott Free? Talk about a male hierarchy.
SHE GOT THE GET!! WOOHOO!!
As for the raw chicken on the granite countertop, I don't think it's as bad as it seems because granite doesn't scratch. Still, it's gross. Use a cutting board ffs.
So heres the deal... I believe she keeps kosher which means she has a meat side of the kitchen and a diary side of the kitchen. Different set of utensils and countertops. A true kosher kitchen is so clean you can eat off the counter tops.
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Lol for real like seriously
😂
It's human intrest
I love that quite conservative people are doing this
Reason 173939 why I’m an atheist. I’m all for freedom of choice of course, but damn all these religions are in need of updates. It should be like iOS with a yearly update lol. How unfair was that for the man to be able to remarry without the get and not the woman. Misogyny needs to be abolished.
I found myself teary eyed when she announced that she finally managed to get a Get. It's sad to see a woman have to fight to get her freedom for that long.
Religion is truly terrifying
this video really shows how arbitrary organized religion is
bubbletea14 😂 If you’re not Jewish I see how you can perceive our religion that way. However to us those rules and traditions are the bonds that have kept our people together for 3,000 years and are the aspects of our covenant with god.
@@joshuacrommie6249 This video clearly outlines a pretty archaic part of this religion, which honestly has zero place in modern society.
Judaism isn’t an organized religion like Islam or Christianity but okay.
@@bbtbae 😬 that awkward moment when Judaism is a culture, tribe, people and nation before it’s a faith.
@@KeshetAylonit Well that's not entirely true. Judaism, however decentralized, does have organization. If Judaism isn't an organized religion, than many Protestant Christian denominations aren't either.
Y’all 2 charter bus fulls of people flew to a whole other state to shame this man into giving his exwife a folded piece of paper! And then once they got there the local Jewish community jumped in and supported the effort. Amazing. Never seen anything like it.
Isnt this considered harrassment?