Why should we care about dying languages? Cherokee | Sara Snyder Hopkins | TEDxLakeJunaluska
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- Sara Snyder Hopkins shares her personal transformation from thinking Native American people should assimilate to advocating for preserving Native languages and teaching the endangered Cherokee language. She shares reasons for saving dying languages and ways that non-Native people like herself can help. Sara Snyder Hopkins is an Assistant Professor of Anthropology and Director of the Cherokee Language Program at Western Carolina University. An ethnomusicologist and linguistic anthropologist by training, she previously spent six years teaching elementary music for New Kituwah Academy, the Cherokee language immersion school in Cherokee, NC. She and her family live in Balsam, NC. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
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In my own country Irish is an unnofficial dead language. It's a language I wish I could speak or learn but sadly first impressions always last and my memories of learning Irish are not happy ones. But I do love studying Irish and some of the words in Irish are fascinating and furthermore they don't directly translate into english at all. For instance the Irish word for 'road' is 'bothar' but the word 'bothar' itself means something completely different. It is actually 2 words molded together-"bo" which means "cow" and "thar' which means "tracks" and it comes from a time in Ancient Ireland when there were no roads. If u happened to be lost and u wanted to go anywhere u wud have to wait for the farmer's herd of cows to leave tracks so u cud find ur way. In rural Ireland u will often here folks say-"Sur u can complain about it until the cows come home" and this phrase pays tribute to this most distinct word...
My grandmother was from County Mayo. Cloonlavis. She had such a thick Irish brogue. I couldn't understand some things she said. Coffee: Covey Cookies: Coogies. It's cool to think I'm so connected by blood to the Island on both sides of my family. I am though an American.
Love this! I play Celtic folk harp, and in the mid 90s my harp student and i attended a folk harp festival, and one of the workshops was on Scotts Gaelic. The teacher had been studying 2 years, and taught us Chi Mi Na Morbhenna and another song. He began in Gaelic, (duris - door from the word for oak, lumis- light) .... and the songs were in parallel, with meanings words/ phrase in English.
By the end, most of us were in tears - as we'd never heard, let alone sung, these words of our ancestors!
I'm learning Cherokee (west band - online with a first language speaker) and like that experience with the Gaelic, find myself in tears at times, with the music of the language!
No one should abandon their language! They are all unique and valuable!
Sure there is some romance in what u say. But people should rather put their effort into creating a worldwide language As everybody’s first language. Maybe English will do the job in 3-4 generations. All so we can break down a lot of mental Walls and grow as a Community/Race/Planet.
@@Foatizenknechtl And that is even more romantic I think! In my ideal world we would speak a universal language which doesn't belong to anyone (so not English) but we would also keep our local one. I speak many languages and don't want to know them dead, languages are wonderful (I even majored in Foreign languages and literature).
@@MihaelaClaudiaPuscas Who does English belong to?
A METHOD OF REDUCING THE WORLD POPULATION TO AN EXACT NUMBER OF PEOPLE? HOW? 1) Modifying a virus from CORONA family and Creating a few strains of the virus - from the most simple to the most Deadly.
2) Releasing the simplest version (COVID 19) and starting a pandemic
3) Preparing the ‘special MRNA vaccine’ to be effective against ALL versions of the virus, especially against the Deadly Strain! THE CHALLENGE was to produce a vaccine against a 100% deadly virus, without using any component/part of that virus.
The MRNA vaccine was the SOLUTION, it being only an injected CODE!
If the vaccine was produced by the classical method, it should have contained part, a trace/proof of the killer virus!
4) Soon, after the immunisation of the target number of people, releasing the killer strain.
Everyone dies, except for those immunised with the ‘special vaccine’!
@@realthings5821 not to Romania or Italy for example! I think that you know well what am I saying here!
That’s awesome that they have online classes so that anyone who wants to learn it, can. Language is so very important.
Every mother tongue is beautiful and deserves respect ❤️
I agree!
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shut up you weird
Respect, just not understanding. It's a good thing those kids are learning English too because otherwise no one is going to be talking to them.
@@reedofwater idc
Every language is a different way of thinking, a different perception to understand world.
The Hawaiian language had been banned from school instruction in 1896, after the U.S. government illegally overthrew the Hawaiian government.
Today, it's being taught in Universities in Hawai'i. They will not succeed at killing indigenous cultures. So proud to be Hawaiian.
Because of your natural and cultural heritage. Losing your language means losing you spirit and therefore your connection to the very base of your intercultural life.
*"you see things that startle you. I hope you feel things you never felt before. I hope you meet people with a different point of view. I hope you live a life you’re proud of. If you find that you’re not, I hope you have the strength to start all over again.”*
*If you are reading this, never ever give up, we have potential to accomplish our Goals and will succeed. I am cheering for you.*
Have a very good day!
Thanks❤️ hope I succeed. Cuz my dream is bigger than possible in this life.
Starting over is hard and that can make it scary but it's worth it.
I think honestly Latin is dead but it's a good language to know anyways because it makes learning most of the european languages easier.
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I agree about it making other languages easier to learn. But I disagree that Latin is dead. Latin and Greek are the languages of science and law.
@@ladykoiwolfe knowing lating is helpful if you're into reading ingredient lists on packagings. Definitely not a dead language, although not spoken.
@@tangerinetangerine4400agreed, and Greek helps there too. However, it is spoken, just not usually conversationally.
@@ladykoiwolfe Greek I know is not dead since there’s a private school teaching math in only greek. The rest of their lessons are in english. I don’t know why, but they do and they’re a well known school too.
“There's no such thing as dead languages, only dormant minds.”
― Carlos Ruiz Zafón, The Shadow of the Wind
Me: Amen!!
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Tell that to victims of mass genocide its hard to keep an ancient language alive when your forced to speak one of two languages Spanish or English in todays world especially when half or three quarters of that Indigenous population were wiped out. You catch my drift?
@@SinCityRaider81 You bet that I do! Thanks for sharing this!
Ya very true, no language is ever dead it changes it form . The three ancient language of the world Greek , latin and sanskrit. Today's modern language share their roots from these languages.
I have ancestors that were a part of the Cherokee tribes in northern Georgia, and I also have ancestors that were part of the Otomi tribe in the desert valleys of the state of Hidalgo, Mexico.
I have Cherokee ancestry and my grandpa spoke the Cherokee language. He tried teaching my mom but she didn't care, and now that he's gone she wishes she would have listened. Her sister does know a bit though. Funny thing is that my aunt said the Cherokee could only teach certain people, it was their tradition. I do want to learn it. Also, my great-great grandfather lived up in the Appalachians in Georgia. Apparently my ancestors must have fled there to get away from the Trail of Tears! Most of the Cherokee are in Oklahoma but my ancestors remained in Georgia somehow.
Also, on the other side, my dad's family is Otomi. It's a native tribe in Mexico. His dad was Mexican but his mom is Otomi. I met my grandma a month ago in the village she lives in called Pozuelos. 99% of the village is Otomi! My grandma only knows Otomi, she doesn't know Spanish! It amazes me how different it is in Mexico right next door. The indigenous people are still common while in the US there's not near as many. I guess it's because of the way the US treated them. But sadly, my family and others there told me that the Otomi language also seems to be going away, as a lot of the children nowadays are learning Spanish in school and not Otomi.
I will work hard to learn and preserve the languages and traditions of the indigenous people on both sides of my family, Otomi and Cherokee!
The idea was that if you kill the Indians way of life i.e his culture, and language you could assimilate the lot of them. This was still needed after mass genocide by the USA army. Some tribes don't exist anymore because of this the people were killed off or forgot their culture, their language. My family still has Generational trauma and elders I know have intergenerational trauma from boarding schools.That is my truth and the truth of Chiricahua and Diné/Navajo peoples from which I was born.
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Ojibwe white earth here. I'm doing all I can to preserve our language and culture
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A METHOD OF REDUCING THE WORLD POPULATION TO AN EXACT NUMBER OF PEOPLE? HOW? 1) Modifying a virus from CORONA family and Creating a few strains of the virus - from the most simple to the most Deadly.
2) Releasing the simplest version (COVID 19) and starting a pandemic
3) Preparing the ‘special MRNA vaccine’ to be effective against ALL versions of the virus, especially against the Deadly Strain! THE CHALLENGE was to produce a vaccine against a 100% deadly virus, without using any component/part of that virus.
The MRNA vaccine was the SOLUTION, it being only an injected CODE!
If the vaccine was produced by the classical method, it should have contained part, a trace/proof of the killer virus!
4) Soon, after the immunisation of the target number of people, releasing the killer strain.
Everyone dies, except for those immunised with the ‘special vaccine’!
then why is your comment in english? muahaha!
@@jeffbriggs1987 Wanendam nibwaakaawin
@AllLiVe Branch Channel you need much stronger medications than whatever they gave u
Also like being multilingual is ✨kewl✨
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My city, the original land for the Spokane tribe, has been making many changes recently to our towns history to acknowledge the tribe/surrounding native people & their history -- especially in infrastructure that previously disrespected the native ppl or acknowledged the white men(etc.) that helped with their slaughter & solitude. Just this month I read an article of a major street name, Fort George Wright Drive, being changed. The street is now named after a female warrior of the Spokane Tribe who fought against Col. George Wright. She was the wife of Qualchan, a Yakama sub-chief who was killed by Wright. More changes are on the way! ❤
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Extremely interesting subject, I’m from Ireland and when the English came here they destroyed our own language, and although we are taught Irish at school it is only spoken in small pockets of Ireland. It’s such a pity.
Being a native Michigander, I thought it’d be useful to have Ojibwe as one of the next languages I learn in case I became a state politician or officer of some kind.
But... the more I did research into it, the more I realized how few people in the Midwest and Canada actually know it- especially how few young native speakers know it.
It might not even be useful if they all know English anyways.
Then I kept seeing how they’re still struggling to invent new words for new technologies based in old words, and how their communities still struggle with solidarity issues.
And because of this, some teachers of the language (how aren’t of the heritage) may differ in opinion on the future of the language and how it should be constructed, which progressives tend to hate.
I buy the need to learn sciences like taxonomy and geology from these old languages, as well as how it can be a source for solidarity for a community... otherwise, I can’t see the benefit from learning a language a few hundred people know or barely speak.
If you hear chanting during a First Nations song, it’s probably because the youth don’t know the language.
The categories she mentioned are also super-basic and don’t seem to add to the field of science; maybe to mythology and anthropology, but not science.
PS: Assimilation is still an option. It worked for the Denver tribe and because of it they’re now more rich and educated than other tribes. They may have lost solidarity, but you can find that in other communities anyways.
Osiyo - Wado, Sarah!
Beautifully said, and congratulations on your work with the language revival!
I'm in Oregon, and am learning CWY (Oklahoma) online worth first language speaker Ed Fields, and like the children in your class, sometimes find tears flowing!
My dad's folks had roots in Missouri, and his mom had narrow heritage (likely Cherokee) - i near my dad's voice in some of the cadences and phrases! And am so very grateful to have the opportunity for CWY dedeloquasdi!
So much respect and love I have towards American Indians. Been Maori we are very similar in culture. History, etc. Maori also went through same stuff, English at first try to delete our culture but it didn't work. It done damage but not enough.. when I was a kid and we played cowboys and Indians. We always played as the Indians 😁❤ real history hidden. Love to Native Americans, people of the land!!
Yes !!! It’s very important to save history good or bad !!!
Well...In India we are a multilingual country but still untited.
But many of our Indian Regional Languages are dying and some were died literally ...
We should preserve our languages.
Thank you for doing this.
Actually having multiple languages makes one more intelligent which they have to use more of your brain to communicate and translate for those who cannot speak other native languages
Thank you for sharing:)
Wado! We won't let it go
I believe the renaissance is here
good one sharing, Stay connected.
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@@Treasuretheadvisor thanks
Interesting and Inspiring. Thank you.
Each individual language allows humans to think and percieve the world in unique ways (the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis). When we allow languages to die, we are narrowing the capaicty for human thought and consciousness.
WE ARE STILL HERE
language = culture. it's not only a tool to communicate.when you use a language you are bringing in each word a long story of the places and the people that have created this language.
Who noticed? She is breathing so deeply, it drives me crazy while I am trying to listen to her speech. Even so, I liked this video!
Same and same
I suspect she is quite late in her pregnancy and it's giving her some shortness of breath.
jeez y’all love to complain
Leave her alone oh my god you guys are soooo annoying
I hope it’s pregnancy- otherwise there’s really no excuse for sounding like you just jogged to the moon and back.
It’s annoying can’t bear it
Im Brazilian and I plan to live in Europe, but if I have kids they will learn Brazilian portuguese and culture
Awesome content keep it up 👌👌👌👌
Different languages shape the unique world
Fully agree to forced assimilation that is a success recipe for the US, if the US wants to keep their prosperity and place in the earth. Each nation should follow this rule only one language, many ethnical backgrounds. Fully agree.
This I heard unfortunately true for Navajo as well ... There’re efforts in place since early 2000 to preserve the language in the schools at the minimum in the reservations in the state of New Mexico that I’m aware of...
Bravo madame
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Hi from somalia 🇸🇴
hi Mohamed!
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Actually my name origin means "Forever Spirit!"
ideally, everyone gets to reserve their language/culture but also learn one singular language. having different languages for different region in a country would help divide it.
Becuase there is so much harmony amongst us English speakers at the moment? LOL!
ഭാഷ എന്നാൽ ഒരു ചരിത്രം അല്ലെ..👍
People use language to communicate. If it’s dying it because it’s not needed anymore. That’s like worrying about “if tools keep getting better then we won’t use the old ones.” You’re right I don’t use rocks at hammers anymore. I’m sure there will always be a text to remember them in case we need to decipher the language but doesn’t necessarily mean we need to worry about them.
It's one thing for the language to die off, it's another for it to be killed off.
It's like people stop using bows because guns are better vs people stop using bows because the enemy cut off the fingers used to draw the bow.
Unfortunately what happened to the Native Americans is more akin to the second one. If we can correct that wrong we should.
It’s about history, not communication
@@ladykoiwolfe You can't "correct" it once it's done. You can offer a course in any language for those who are interested, but forcing children to speak a dead language in a school when it's completely useless in everyday life is not correcting anything. We just need to accept it as a result of evolution. 🤷♀️ I say this in english, and that's my third language. I recognise though that most people will understand me in english. It's just a communication tool.
@@Pacificat Well history can be preserved in books and art. It's not a great communication tool though.
@@tangerinetangerine4400 true, we can't recover languages where all the speakers have died and we have no written records. We can't turn little used languages into common languages. But we can preserve them. And for the Native people who were forced into abandoning their rightful tongues, they still have native speakers who can pass on their language to their children, those languages can and should be saved. Like you, engilsh can become their second or third language. And I mean this for people all around the world.
Honestly, I think everyone would benefit from knowing at least two languages.
And there are people everywhere who are trying to recover dead languages from whatever texts have been left behind. This is wonderful since it will help us learn more about our collective past. They won't be living languages, and we may pronounce the words wrong (we probably will) but we will be able to read it. Well, some of us will.
I’m gonna say what’s on a lot of peoples mind that no one else wants to say. Why should I care about someone else’s culture? And why should I be the one to bear the burden of saving a dying language when the people of that culture won’t even try to save their own language?
If everyone on the planet spoke the same language the world would be a lot more peaceful.
In no way do I expect or support anyone forgetting, ignoring, or “deleting” their heritage. But if you want to be a part of any nation, you must assimilate to their ways or you are a disruptive element rather than a productive member of that society. Just my thoughts in the first minute or two.
So why didn’t the Englishmen adapt to the native language?
@@Pacificat some did, but history is written by the victors.
@@Pacificat arguably, my comment is still consistent, the europeans were a disruptive element to that society rather than a productive member of it, they instituted their own society to replace the one they’d conquered. I’m not saying that’s morally justified, just that it happened that way
It’s an old fallacy that to be a part of a nation you must assimilate or that somehow not assimilating makes you a “disruptive element”. In the US people of many backgrounds, religions, languages, etc exist and it’s not a disruption to the communities they live in. Society can be very productive and even better at innovation because there’s cultural and linguistic diversity.
You say that you don’t expect or support people forgetting, ignoring or deleting their heritage but in the next sentence you advocate for just that. Assimilation is at its very core about leaving your heritage, your language, your traditions in favor of the heritage, language, and traditions of the country you now live in.
When you look more closely at traditions and languages specific to certain places you’ll find that even those have influences from outside that country. That didn’t happen because of assimilation but by retaining those very things that made them different and sharing it.
Yes I know how to read n comprehend that's how the real native languages came to die by not even a teacher or book to guide us.. either Spanish English and for some french ..
languages are always in a state of flux, its sad some disappear, but its pointless to try to keep them alive. if they're not thriving by themselves its just the end of the road. cultures, languages, species. everything will be gone and forgotten at some point.
I think you're perfect my opinion
I’m going back to typewriter repair school...
come to india you will see more than 1200 languages.
Why you need device? If I can speak in mind fluently without anything on. I don't know exactly how i get this, but have a lot of ideas. Ask me for more information. 100% legit.
O bydded ir hen iaith barhau
Aventaja
*Please Save Sanskrit🙏🙏🙏*
@@Uniknown121 lol.. sanskrit is better than Tamil. U need to calm down ur ego.
Dont fight guys
اريد ترجمه 😭😭
Why is it not translated into Vietnamese?
انتو ما بتزوروش ليه
Getting harder and harder to listen to these talks.
Bump
N to Texas that was Oklahoma new Mexico Colorado resting in peace natives some say lousiana. Was part of Texas Oklahoma Tulsa,outside San Antonio Alamo n Alamo . Traitors .blacks Spanish french British other tribes. The decramocy of the spirits death to form unity n peace
For our over intellectual population, "kill indians" means not the people whose origin is republic of India but the native Americans who worship nature and not Christian . Please don't make chaos in India saying American is not secular but Christian nation .
I think I proved my point very correctly JP Mercado helped me . That how facists and communal mark our identities as per their requirement.
because you need fundings to raise your life.
It’s evolution baby
Maybe it's nice to study the forgotten languages and speak about how they are nice until you face the reality that knowing those languages is just a waste of time, a pretence of trying to save smth important because knowing a language takes a lot of time and effort, money as well and what do you have at the end? Nothing, because there are no science articles not movies in that language, I know what I'm talking about. Look at Kazakhstan, it's been more than 30 years we’re trying to revive the Kazakh language and to no avail and those who started speaking it and refused from other languages are considered uneducated because it's hard to catch up with everything that has been discovered in the modern life and translate it into another language.
Not we y’all y’all
31.000.000 di iscritti al canale...parlano tutti inglese? INSERITE I SOTTOTITOLI ANCHE IN ALTRE LINGUE e non solo quelli di traduzione automatica. Possibile che solo Ted non riesca a farlo?????
Appunto Glitter Fucsia! Sono 100% d'accordo.
@TEDx Talks Talks But what is the answer? I'm asking TedxTalks as the owner of the videos to add SUBTITLES to videos in other languages and not just the English TH-cam automatic translation. I don't think it's possible that only Ted can't enter several languages ... NOT ALL THE WORLD SPEAKS AND UNDERSTANDS THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE!
SUBTITLES ... Settings ... subtitles ... Italian ... French ... German ... Spanish ... Cyrillic ... Swahili ... etc.etc.
@@lt7587 Grazie Louisa per il sostegno! Dovremmo essere in tanti a fare questa richiesta.
@@glitterfucsia9048 altro che! Sono inglese io, e a dire il vero mi trovo un po' in imbarazzo (anche se non è "colpa mia") che esistono solamente sottotitoli in inglese. Non ha senso proprio! :(
TED talks: please provide subtitles in different languages and not only in English. This seems to stand out lots particularly for this very TED talk on dying languages, as it's an excellent talk and clearly ideal if it can really make an impact on people who speak various languages. Let's keep TED accessible internationally! :)
هل من عربي هنا 🤔🤔
Just the same with every other Anglo country. Multiculturalism and White Australia Policy.
Barriers of language, are BARRIERS. I'm a bilingual English/Spanish. I can't talk to the Japanese, the Italians, one of the many Africans, ect. I can't learn from THEM, just what's been translated or written on them in English. Language is just a tool, don't save the tool, save the culture. If both English and Spanish died out too be replaced by a central, world language, good riddance.
The tool is important so you can understand the culture. There are words that just don’t have any equivalents. We’re in the 21st century. You don’t know how to speak Japanese, there’s an app that can teach you that. Can’t read in Japanese, there’s an app to translate that too. You can’t communicate with Japanese people because you don’t speak the language, there’s apps that can translate the spoken word and even speak your words back to them translated in Japanese. There won’t ever be a one world language because every culture uses and expresses language differently. Look at the english language for instance, there isn’t just one dialect. There are tons of words that wither have a different meaning or lose their meaning altogether depending where you live. Words like chips, crisps, trunk, boot, dunny, pop, semi, etc all have different meanings or don’t mean anything depending on where english is spoken. If you truly want to understand people then there’s no better way than to learn the basics of that language. If you truly want to learn it.
@TEDx Talks Talks What are you talking about?
@@reedofwater its a bot.
@@spiralmoment yup, I realized. I reported it. Thx.
She knows that is what the tribes had to do in order to live on the rez right
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who cares, im dying
English is sufficient for every human being. We must speak in a one language in order to understand each other!!!!
No, English is NOT sufficient for every human being. There are things worth saying that cannot be expressed precisely enough in English. Also, NOBODY should be confined to just one language.
@@ronaldonmg Since you are CLEARLY sugesting that people shoud not have the freedom to speak thier own languages, I have to assume you were not one of those people crying about masks and vaccines because of "Muh Freedumb".
@@nieckolai Huh?
Don’t care
Lose some weight
Channel dedicated to drawing,..
"Drawing is my passion, not a gift"
A haram to present pictures or videos of women not wearing the hijab or appropriate clothing, and a mistake to present girl.
Nobody cares
Let most dying languages die. Just let it happen.
not gonna finish this. This is old news and the world is moving too fast to care about the languages that are lost. How bout the mass extinction happening right now? How bout mass consumerism? Corporate rule? Let’s let energy be free. After all, we are all energy just trying to be.
Such an annoying mouth breathing 😥