@@robertparks8108 if you're above 80 rage you should heroic strike so you dont overcap rage anyways? you retain 75 from tactical mastery to begin with.
Since overpower is such a huge part of arms... I take it we should want to stay in Berserker stance minimally to maximize not missing overpower procs... And every moment you are in Berserker stance casting a whirilwind or cleave, you are missing chances at overpower procs correct?
@@jimvick8397 no you should be macro'ing your berserker stance/battle stance into your abilities because berserker does more damage than battle stance does. you just don't press a stance switching ability if you are above like 80 rage until you've hit a heroic strike to burn your rage cap. you should never be casting whirlwind in general either because that ability is terrible even on aoe fights. yes you want to hit overpower on cooldown but you don't want to be hitting mortal strike and slams in battle stance as it will cause you to miss out on an additional 5% damage when using those abilities.
Stance dancing can be eliminated by just macroing the stance change into the ability. That way when you press the ability, you're automatically in the right stance. It's a no brainer.
There are a few bits wrong with this guide, but the premise is good. CS before Mortal Strike always, and save your big dmg abilities for during the CS window. The orange gem you want is Strength/Crit rather than Strength/Haste. Also Macro your abilities to switch into the required stance first i.e #showtooltip Mortal Strike /startattack /cast Berseker Stance /cast Mortal Strike Or #showtooltip Overpower /startattack /cast Battle Stance /cast Overpower Hope this helps
Why not take blood and thunder over dumping the extra points into incite? It provides significantly more value as soon as there’s a second target involved and incite is underwhelming at best considering the few niche cases where you are casting more than one heroic strike consecutively
@@tylermcbeath5452 yeah sounds good on paper, gonna need the smooth brain pvp spec tho let’s be real 🤣 I also fully expect to be situationally forced into a prot OS for the gearing phase I can def see myself having two pve specs during the week after t11 though
The extra 2 points in Incite grant increased critical strike chance (15%), and make it so that each Heroic Strike critical strike has a 100% to make the next Heroic Strike be a critical strike. Which is really HUGE for DPS in single target. Don't take it for AOE though!
for the stance dacing i usually have macros to make it a bit easier like if i wanna use rend and then mortal strike i have one macro for rend and one for mortal strike like this: #showtooltip Rend /cast Battle Stance /cast Rend #showtooltip Mortal Strike /cast Berserker Stance /cast Mortal strike I dont know if its any good but it makes it easier imo, so all abilities that need berserker i have macro for and all that need battle stance i have macros for if that makes sense. But thats just how i enjoy playing :D
@@jordancongeni634 sure it does. You will get 3 stacks a few seconds later but your MS is a great skill to use in your CS window, it will deal more than enough damage to justify the switch
@@julewczka4853mortal strike is the number 1# skill uu want to prior. Cause it doesnt just proc lambs but it also is the core for refresh rend, proc your crits, tierset bonus, dmg, haste and others like the free casts for heroic strike. But if you are nervious about the priority st the open you can just Charge|Rend|Colossus|MS|Overpower|Slam And then just over and over for the rest of the battle MS|Colossus|Overpower|Slam As you can see the opener just occurs 1 time per battle wich makes the order irrelevant when you consult the records after the battle. Its easier to just stay with the simple rotation and thats one thing less to think out in middle of the battle.
im 359, doing the rotation as follows; charge - rend (for starters) - cs - deadly calm - mortal strike - op - hs/pummel depending on rage amount. then keeping the rotation as follows during the fight; cs - mortal - op - hs/pummel. I do 13.1k dmg on a training dummy w no buffs etc. wtf am i doing wrong?!
that isnt telling me a rotation... its just telling me what each spell does, that i could read on the tooltips? a rotation is what to open with and what order to use spells as you fight
Decent guide but you can tell this guy is not a high end arms warrior cause he could’ve given a lot of other pointers. You need to just macro everything and definitely use slam more than heroic strike. Heroic strike is only there for when you have a battle trance proc and full rage. If your rage is full by all means use heroic strike but this guide downplays the use of slam which is wrong 🤙🏼
True, I could've added a lot more - I could've made the video 3 hours long if I wanted lol? I chose to include the information that I believed is useful for the average player. I never claim to be making content for the top 0.1% :)
I can tell that i have everything on macro 😂 stancedancing, shouts, sweeping strikes and so on. I play warrior since classic an this is the only class where i put so much effort in it to maximise every ability. You are completly fcked if you play with no macros. Protpaladin and armswarrior ❤️ i love them so much 😂
These were made before wowhead released theirs so maybe they copied me? You really think I can release a video for every spec within like, 3 days while working a 9-5 on launch day? It's literally impossible. Use your brain.
I totally removed it from my skillbar when I Made notice but I still looking for a korean way to take advantage of it in some ways. I think i can use it with recklesness + BL. Cause the criticas can fill better the ragebar
@@beautadlock6703always keep CS on CD, MS on CD, dump rage with slam and (75 rage+, with HS) or cast HS before slam with a battle trance procc. this is the basic rotation. now you have the overpower proccs, aim to use overpower right before rend would procc again your taste for blood buff, then overpower again, so you can cast 2 overpowers in a row before changing stance back to berserk. so you follow the rotation above, when you see your taste for blood buff is around 5 seconds remaining use overpower and then overpower again. now back to berserk stance , use MS and follow rota again for 7-8 seconds until 2x overpower. use CS whenever it proccs
@@beautadlock6703 i started to put more prio to slam, somehow i´m critting with slam 30-50k but heroic strike is something at 20k so f that. For stance dancing it´s quite simple you charge -> you rend -> you overpower and i have a macro that casts berserker stance after that it casts mortal strike. You want every damage source in berserker stance due to the 5% more damage. Only thing to switch stance for is overpower, so everytime you see the proc you wanna have a macro that casts the other stance + overpower in one click
Stance dancing becomes very easy by just macroing every single ability to their respective stance. It takes no thought at all after that.
@@robertparks8108 if you're above 80 rage you should heroic strike so you dont overcap rage anyways? you retain 75 from tactical mastery to begin with.
@@robertparks8108 xD classic andy without brain detected
@@duhuan3628Hes right, you are the one with 25 IQ
Since overpower is such a huge part of arms... I take it we should want to stay in Berserker stance minimally to maximize not missing overpower procs... And every moment you are in Berserker stance casting a whirilwind or cleave, you are missing chances at overpower procs correct?
@@jimvick8397 no you should be macro'ing your berserker stance/battle stance into your abilities because berserker does more damage than battle stance does. you just don't press a stance switching ability if you are above like 80 rage until you've hit a heroic strike to burn your rage cap. you should never be casting whirlwind in general either because that ability is terrible even on aoe fights. yes you want to hit overpower on cooldown but you don't want to be hitting mortal strike and slams in battle stance as it will cause you to miss out on an additional 5% damage when using those abilities.
Stance dancing can be eliminated by just macroing the stance change into the ability. That way when you press the ability, you're automatically in the right stance. It's a no brainer.
I did this a week before cata launch and I feel like a fool for stance dancing manually the entirety of wrath lol
@@splitloopgaming3523 berserker stance for whirlwind and defensive for interrupt, etc
Doesn’t stance swap put you into gcd?
@@moneypressoverdrive2020 nope
@@moneypressoverdrive2020not with arms in this exp
Great guide! Thanks for the info in an easy and digestible way ❤
So happy to hear that! Thankyou!!
There are a few bits wrong with this guide, but the premise is good. CS before Mortal Strike always, and save your big dmg abilities for during the CS window. The orange gem you want is Strength/Crit rather than Strength/Haste.
Also Macro your abilities to switch into the required stance first i.e
#showtooltip Mortal Strike
/startattack
/cast Berseker Stance
/cast Mortal Strike
Or
#showtooltip Overpower
/startattack
/cast Battle Stance
/cast Overpower
Hope this helps
Typo in Berserker but the rest stands
I do honestly agree re macros - I wasn't sure whether to put it in the video or not, or if a lot of my more casual viewers would find it a bit OTT.
Why not take blood and thunder over dumping the extra points into incite? It provides significantly more value as soon as there’s a second target involved and incite is underwhelming at best considering the few niche cases where you are casting more than one heroic strike consecutively
Dual spec both builds
@@tylermcbeath5452 yeah sounds good on paper, gonna need the smooth brain pvp spec tho let’s be real 🤣 I also fully expect to be situationally forced into a prot OS for the gearing phase
I can def see myself having two pve specs during the week after t11 though
The extra 2 points in Incite grant increased critical strike chance (15%), and make it so that each Heroic Strike critical strike has a 100% to make the next Heroic Strike be a critical strike. Which is really HUGE for DPS in single target. Don't take it for AOE though!
what macros would you recomend for arms warrior? i really apreciate your vids, keep them up
great video, everything really well explained really good for new players
Glad you enjoyed!
why heroic strike before slam? slam does a lot more dmg for half the rage and why would you use heroic strike over execute?
Because heroic strike is instant and don't share CD with other abilities
for the stance dacing i usually have macros to make it a bit easier like if i wanna use rend and then mortal strike i have one macro for rend and one for mortal strike like this:
#showtooltip Rend
/cast Battle Stance
/cast Rend
#showtooltip Mortal Strike
/cast Berserker Stance
/cast Mortal strike
I dont know if its any good but it makes it easier imo, so all abilities that need berserker i have macro for and all that need battle stance i have macros for if that makes sense.
But thats just how i enjoy playing :D
Why would you mortal strike before colossus smash? It makes more sense to do it reverse.
Yes
No it doesn't. You want to MS first to start building lambs to slaughter stacks
@@jordancongeni634 sure it does. You will get 3 stacks a few seconds later but your MS is a great skill to use in your CS window, it will deal more than enough damage to justify the switch
@@jordancongeni634this
@@julewczka4853mortal strike is the number 1# skill uu want to prior. Cause it doesnt just proc lambs but it also is the core for refresh rend, proc your crits, tierset bonus, dmg, haste and others like the free casts for heroic strike.
But if you are nervious about the priority st the open you can just
Charge|Rend|Colossus|MS|Overpower|Slam
And then just over and over for the rest of the battle
MS|Colossus|Overpower|Slam
As you can see the opener just occurs 1 time per battle wich makes the order irrelevant when you consult the records after the battle. Its easier to just stay with the simple rotation and thats one thing less to think out in middle of the battle.
Vin Javier. Was waiting for you to say "family".
Again Great Guide !🔥💪
Question...
Warrior fury is good dps... ?
I think is simple dps for casual player.
What you think Javier... ?
Any good sub ideas for the glyph of shield walls? dont want to go through the hassle of switching to 1h+s
Can you share that UI please? It looks perfect it’s exactly what I need
Hey! This is available via my patreon, and I can help you set it up if needed too :D
im 359, doing the rotation as follows; charge - rend (for starters) - cs - deadly calm - mortal strike - op - hs/pummel depending on rage amount. then keeping the rotation as follows during the fight; cs - mortal - op - hs/pummel. I do 13.1k dmg on a training dummy w no buffs etc. wtf am i doing wrong?!
why are you pressing pummel? or do you mean slam
When you say 26 points in expertise what do you mean? You get 100+ in one piece of gear.
When you look at expertise in your character menu it goes from 0-26. The stuff on your gear isn’t the number he’s talking about
Expertise to 26 isn't in front of crit?
Would you cap expertise after hit cap or balance with crit?
Cap is 786 ( 26% )
8% hit
All you can after that goes to crit at most
what's the addon for the abilities called?
you Tank with Arms Spec?
Dps
Thanks bud
No problem 👍
I like how he’s on a warlock to start the warrior guide lol.
LMAO
how do i put the abilities icons like that?
Bartender
Bartender
that isnt telling me a rotation... its just telling me what each spell does, that i could read on the tooltips? a rotation is what to open with and what order to use spells as you fight
I did explain the rotation, and what order to use them all in though lol. You even have them in order on the screen
i am sorry, where was the rotation again?
You pritty much never want to use heroic strike unless you are about to cap rage or deadly calm is up.
They should just make c-smash a 20 second cooldown on retail and just leave it at that. I don't like anger management synergy
Decent guide but you can tell this guy is not a high end arms warrior cause he could’ve given a lot of other pointers. You need to just macro everything and definitely use slam more than heroic strike. Heroic strike is only there for when you have a battle trance proc and full rage. If your rage is full by all means use heroic strike but this guide downplays the use of slam which is wrong 🤙🏼
True, I could've added a lot more - I could've made the video 3 hours long if I wanted lol? I chose to include the information that I believed is useful for the average player. I never claim to be making content for the top 0.1% :)
I can tell that i have everything on macro 😂 stancedancing, shouts, sweeping strikes and so on.
I play warrior since classic an this is the only class where i put so much effort in it to maximise every ability.
You are completly fcked if you play with no macros.
Protpaladin and armswarrior ❤️ i love them so much 😂
fierce ember topaz has to be a joke, crit > haste all day everyday. so you should get inscribed ember topaz if even
imagine you are that terrible in game, thatn doing tutorial arms warrior with at shiedl ajajajajaja
You don't need to be good to make a youtube video reciting the wowhead arms guide :P
These were made before wowhead released theirs so maybe they copied me? You really think I can release a video for every spec within like, 3 days while working a 9-5 on launch day? It's literally impossible. Use your brain.
Bro doesnt know about /cast [nostance:3] Berserker Stance and /cast [nostance:1] Battle Stance macros...
Or, I just didn't want to overwhelm my viewers with having to setup 100 macros. Maybe you're looking for something more advanced, and that's fine. :)
I dont know about that makros, you got any other guide? My makros are quite simple
Berzerker Trance totally useless for Arm warrior, end
And a one hand + bucler for Arm ? wtf dude
I didn’t recommend that😂
I totally removed it from my skillbar when I Made notice but I still looking for a korean way to take advantage of it in some ways.
I think i can use it with recklesness + BL. Cause the criticas can fill better the ragebar
Arms feels very rage starved right now. I love the spec but it feels weak.
Do you have enough hit and expertise? If you don't, arms feels like absolute shit.
@@LongJohnnn yeah, I think the rotation is what’s throwing me off. I don’t know how to properly use slam and stance dance to maximize the rotation
@@beautadlock6703always keep CS on CD, MS on CD, dump rage with slam and (75 rage+, with HS) or cast HS before slam with a battle trance procc. this is the basic rotation. now you have the overpower proccs, aim to use overpower right before rend would procc again your taste for blood buff, then overpower again, so you can cast 2 overpowers in a row before changing stance back to berserk. so you follow the rotation above, when you see your taste for blood buff is around 5 seconds remaining use overpower and then overpower again. now back to berserk stance , use MS and follow rota again for 7-8 seconds until 2x overpower. use CS whenever it proccs
@@beautadlock6703 i started to put more prio to slam, somehow i´m critting with slam 30-50k but heroic strike is something at 20k so f that.
For stance dancing it´s quite simple you charge -> you rend -> you overpower and i have a macro that casts berserker stance after that it casts mortal strike. You want every damage source in berserker stance due to the 5% more damage. Only thing to switch stance for is overpower, so everytime you see the proc you wanna have a macro that casts the other stance + overpower in one click
For me it always feels like my dude never auto attacks lol im like standing there with no rage waiting for him to auto attack