I think the Browns confidence in #4 will be rewarded. He is comfortable with the team, the city, and now the scheme. I feel he no longer needs to prove himself he just needs to relax and let his talent and his knowledge of the game to shine through.
I'm trying to figure out what games these people watched last season. Watson played 6 games won 5. He came back and beat the ravens, which was supposed to have the best defense in the league. What are they looking for him to do?
@@Thewiseone007 it matters to an extent we haven't seen nearly enough from watson these last 3 years. The fact we where winning with 3 other qb's last year doesn't help deshaun's case
@@renaissanceman3903 I will always be a baker Mayfield supporter. I can only imagine him with this roster and the draft picks and cap space we would have had
I believe in DW4 he is due for a great season. Him and this team have gone through a lot of adversity. And we have manage to have some success. The old Browns would have found a way to use the adversity to lose games and be at the bottom of the division. This not the same old Browns love the direction and out look for this team moving forward. Go Browns 4 life!
The thing is, watson actually beat better competition: bengals, titans, cardinals, but most importantly the Ravens, when they seemed unstoppable. Flacco beat bears, jets, jags, texans. Did watson look like a 230 million dollar QB probably not. But for anybody to say joe flacco looked like a demi god out there and compare the 2 is unfair. Flacco lost to the texans texans, got slaughtered by the ravens, and watson beat the ravens sooo... yeah this is definitely watsons last year to show who he is no and if or buts
DeShaun Watson will never be able to do enough until he wins a superbowl. They hate him so much for no fucking reason. That he couldn't end being in the superbowl, but if he looses , they'll still say he's not the Texans DeShaun.
It’s so funny that the “experts” keep saying Flacco was “better” than Watson, but their win-loss record were essentially the same. Without the contribution of both players the Browns wouldn’t have made the playoffs \
With a level past elite! God given Talent A NFL Rock 🌟 Deshaun Watson! Remind them who u are! Final Form! You got them Dawgs with you! Time to set them Dawgs Loose on the entire NFL! Amari Cooper stays! He's a big piece of the Cleveland Browns success moving foward!
The hateration for Warson is real, the neglect to mention Flacco record same as Watson. Yes the have superbowl level talant and barring significant injuries they will go far.
The Browns are legit and this team is looking to take their respect in 2024, Superbowl is the goal and the Browns have the roster to get it done! I believe it is our year, Why not Cleveland?! Go Browns!!
The Browns have a new Offensive Coordinator, Offensive Line coach, RB coach, so I expect to offense to start of slow, make adjustments at the bye, then hit their stride after week 10.
Also I think the different adversities that this team has faced over the past few yrs has forced change in a positive light and only made this team better if we stay healthy the NFL is gonna be put on notice
No way it should take 3 years to see his full potential. If he was a young rookie maybe but he was an already pro bowl player that just took 1 year off. Flacco came in and made David a pro bowl player instantly
@@patrickbrown958 ok and when was deshaun last in the playoffs? Not like he also wasn't throwing picks all year himself, in his prime at that. Flacco at least made others look better
I’m so tired of hearing about how he had 1 good half vs the ravens… imagine that being the brag about a guy the franchise sold their souls for…if he is not good by week 3 or 4, they need to figure something out..
Yea I agree this is the "now or never" year but I also feel like his play has been overly criticized. His last 3 games (no including the 10 plays or so in Indy) he had 3 solid-really good efforts. I think 289 (should've been 300+ but they said Coop was out of bounds), 2 TDs on 70% completion vs TN, 250ish total yards 2 TDs vs AZ (yea they stink lol) and the 14/14 comeback with broken shoulder and ankle sprain against BAL. I think the biggest thing for DW4 is getting a stretch of games together of being on the field. He got better at the end of 2022, his last few games of '23 were better. Hard to be successful with the start/stopping of play time. Also Flacco was better suited for that "old" Stefanski offense. He turned it over a lot tho. Ken Dorsey coming in to run the Buffalo/Daboll offense to spread it out more should help. That and the Jeudy trade and being on the field I think Watson plays well this year
That was last year for me with him, I'm now in the sh_t up faze. if he has a great comeback year great, but I don't want to hear any hype at this point or expectations of a good year. Just save and let his game do the talking now
I honestly have no idea how good DeShaun will be. He's barely played these last couple years & I just need to see him on the field more to see how he plays
I think hes going to be what his best was last year. Will see some great flashes and some awesome decisions with the football and look confident but, that will be the peak
Thats an unfair assessment against Flacco in the playoffs. They didnt play yhe run at all and just came after the passer. Flacco had no time at all during that game from the second quarter on. That line and the def was awful the whole game
i disagree that this year is all or nothing. It's the national media who's making this assumption . We know what happens when you assume things. Now the premise and logic behind that Flaco ran this offense better than Watson is bogus. Two people Berry and Stefanski ( who are very intelligent ) already knew that Flacco and Watson run different style of offenses. That is why they hired Ken Dorsey. They are going to create an offense similar to the offense Watson ran in Houston and the offense they ran in Buffalo. The browns organization ( Berry & Stephanski) can detect their weakness and hire key important people to help fix the problem. Joe Woods was replaced by Jim Schwartz last year and the defense was great, Dorsey along with Mike Vrabel will make this team well rounded coaching staff. The all or nothing year for the Waton implies this is last year of his contract, so now the national media is taking the micro approach.
I agree it’s this yr or never, well they got a new OC so the play action is not going to be a thing it will take a back seat to a down field ball slinging offense
@@JWLSports well, one is the actual word. And the other is an idiom because SO MANY misunderstand it. Think of it. “Chomping” is what some child imagined that the horse is doing because it is in his mouth. But, that isn’t what it’s doing. It is moving its jaw around due to discomfort. Just because they sound similar, and you’re ignorant of the actual word and activity, does not mean that they are the same thing. The White Stripes have a song called “Seven Nation Army”. Jack White got that name from when he was a kid, he heard the name Salvation Army…and thought that’s what they were saying. No sensible, literate adult would subsequently say that NOW the Christian Charity is called “Seven Nation Army”. It’s still Salvation Army. This is a hypothetical of how an idiom could be created. So…rather than studying emojis and using them in text, why don’t you google IDIOMS. (By the way, google is not a definitive source of what is. It is a source for what people THINK is. Learn the difference).
Well google this, words, phrases, and languages evolve. You’re not as smart as you think you are. 🤷♂️ Maybe read up on John McWhorter. An actual linguist. And google isn’t a source. It’s a collection of sources. Not unlike a library. 😂 You’re trying so hard to sound smart right now.
@@JWLSports not trying, and not concerned whether you think so or not. It’s not about me. Secondly, I know of McWhorter. On rare occasions, I agree with him. I also acknowledge his superiority on the subject. Be that as it may…it’s champing. I don’t give a fat rat’s who you insert into the discussion. The facts are as I stated. “Chomping” is idiomatic. And another thing, trying to be correct is not trying to “be smart”. Correctness is an ethical stance. Smartness is a condition. Correctness requires effort. One’s intelligence is already determined. AND…would you say that defending incorrectness is trying to be stupid? If not, is attempting to correct me not “trying to be smart”? Please take the pieces of your petard with you.
Go back to the Baltimore ravens game Watson played like the quarterback we need browns need the quarterback in the final drive to deliver and he did he was on the rise until he’s got the tools and skills to win these close games browns have lost in the past should be exciting year if bro browns stay healthy the will be dangerous if you look at roster top to bottom we’re strong in every area just got to execute I believe the browns will with Watson will do extremely well and hopefully the whole team can stay healthy
He looked pretty dang good last year, especially considering he played 3 games with a broken bone in his shoulder. Without that injury the Browns would’ve won the division last year.
I said he was seen as that. Not that he was. But he fit that mold of everything Mahomes is and his trajectory was supposed to be that of Mahomes. Which obviously did not pan out.
Dam gotta love espn they call it how it is. This offense was much better with Joe Flacco and not Watson. I agree with the expert analysts. And it is NOW or NEVER for deshaun. This is going to be year 3. If he continues to be a bottom 5 qb. Browns cant waste anymore time.
Flacco beat up on bums and a wounded Texans team while being a turnover machine. When rubber met the road got waxed. Watson went on the road against a division rival facing the # 1 ranked d and beat them with a broken shoulder for first place in the division. Let’s stop this foolishness please 😩🤭
@@SoSuave100 flacco led deshaun in yards, tds, passer rating, qbr and pff grade. And flacco started less games too. Joe also had a better td to turnover ratio than watson too. Those are all facts, you have to accept reality.
@@anthonypa8045 again against bums. Jags jets bears. Even the first Texans win they were without their top DB 😂🤣 this isn’t even close to being an argument. Flacco would have gotten destroyed against the ravens.
@@SoSuave100 no one gets to choose who they play. The browns were 4-1 with watson and flacco under center. But Flacco as a individual had much better stats. And it's hard to comment on your Baltimore game take because that's just your opinion and not fact at all. I say he wins that game too.
I am a browns man and honestly, that was the best objective analysis I’ve heard even the local media is so negative here
Exactly it’s all about clicks know if all the fans are against Watson even our own media will go with that.FOR CLICKS EQUAL MONEY
I think the Browns confidence in #4 will be rewarded. He is comfortable with the team, the city, and now the scheme. I feel he no longer needs to prove himself he just needs to relax and let his talent and his knowledge of the game to shine through.
I'm trying to figure out what games these people watched last season. Watson played 6 games won 5. He came back and beat the ravens, which was supposed to have the best defense in the league. What are they looking for him to do?
Be the first person to build a time machine and undo his youthful past.... that's the expectations.
They want him to put up eye popping states or they won't care. Fair or not
Bro our defense and kicker won that game. What were you watching all those check down passes to go 14/14. Flacco made njoku a pro bowler in 5 weeks.
Apparently, wins don’t matter anymore to these clueless analysts.
@@Thewiseone007 it matters to an extent we haven't seen nearly enough from watson these last 3 years. The fact we where winning with 3 other qb's last year doesn't help deshaun's case
He’s going to prove the haters wrong this year
We will find out soon enough!
Yep he will 😊
😂😂😂😂
Joe also had 64 pick-6s in 6 games why we never talk about that
People bring that up
He averaged almost 11 pick-6s per game in 6 games?
Hes got arguably a top 5 wr group,top 5 o line, the best rb qhen healthy and a top 5 def and kicker. No excuses!
Just remember the knock on baker from people was “ he needs everything perfect around him” it’s literally the same thing with Watson
@BrownsFanInCincy exactly a waste of time picks and money. If he doesn't pan out browns put themselves back 10 yrs
@@renaissanceman3903 And in the process they gave Houston A dynasty of young talent
@@renaissanceman3903 I will always be a baker Mayfield supporter. I can only imagine him with this roster and the draft picks and cap space we would have had
@@BrOwNs4EaE I agree
I believe in DW4 he is due for a great season. Him and this team have gone through a lot of adversity. And we have manage to have some success. The old Browns would have found a way to use the adversity to lose games and be at the bottom of the division. This not the same old Browns love the direction and out look for this team moving forward. Go Browns 4 life!
The thing is, watson actually beat better competition: bengals, titans, cardinals, but most importantly the Ravens, when they seemed unstoppable. Flacco beat bears, jets, jags, texans. Did watson look like a 230 million dollar QB probably not. But for anybody to say joe flacco looked like a demi god out there and compare the 2 is unfair. Flacco lost to the texans texans, got slaughtered by the ravens, and watson beat the ravens sooo... yeah this is definitely watsons last year to show who he is no and if or buts
I don’t know if I’d say those teams were better. Especially defensively.
“We don’t… need to hear what she has to say” 😂😂
😂😂😂 haha well am I wrong?
That was my favorite part. 😂😂
DeShaun Watson will never be able to do enough until he wins a superbowl. They hate him so much for no fucking reason. That he couldn't end being in the superbowl, but if he looses , they'll still say he's not the Texans DeShaun.
Well when you’re as good as Watson was, the expectation is always a Super Bowl.
@@JWLSports Exactly. The Browns have a TON more talent from top to bottom than the Texans had when Watson was there.
It’s so funny that the “experts” keep saying Flacco was “better” than Watson, but their win-loss record were essentially the same. Without the contribution of both players the Browns wouldn’t have made the playoffs \
You have to look beyond just win loss record or even just stats.
Keep Watson until his Contract runs out ? A Browns fan since 1967.
With a level past elite! God given Talent A NFL Rock 🌟 Deshaun Watson! Remind them who u are! Final Form! You got them Dawgs with you! Time to set them Dawgs Loose on the entire NFL! Amari Cooper stays! He's a big piece of the Cleveland Browns success moving foward!
We shall see!
The hateration for Warson is real, the neglect to mention Flacco record same as Watson. Yes the have superbowl level talant and barring significant injuries they will go far.
The Browns are legit and this team is looking to take their respect in 2024, Superbowl is the goal and the Browns have the roster to get it done! I believe it is our year, Why not Cleveland?! Go Browns!!
You never know!
The Browns have a new Offensive Coordinator, Offensive Line coach, RB coach, so I expect to offense to start of slow, make adjustments at the bye, then hit their stride after week 10.
Totally fair
Your 100 % right
“We don’t need to hear what she has to say”💀💀
😂😂😂
Brownies SUPER BOWĹ. Let's gooo
lol now you just made me hungry for chocolate. Thanks!
Also I think the different adversities that this team has faced over the past few yrs has forced change in a positive light and only made this team better if we stay healthy the NFL is gonna be put on notice
When we got him i said it would take three years to see his full potential first year 6 games rust 2 year injuries third year pop out and show people
No way it should take 3 years to see his full potential. If he was a young rookie maybe but he was an already pro bowl player that just took 1 year off. Flacco came in and made David a pro bowl player instantly
Two pick 6 in the playoffs
@@patrickbrown958 ok and when was deshaun last in the playoffs? Not like he also wasn't throwing picks all year himself, in his prime at that. Flacco at least made others look better
I no one thing he don't have 2 pick six
@@patrickbrown958 uhhh hate to break it to you but he does, he also doesn't have a superbowl ring
I’m so tired of hearing about how he had 1 good half vs the ravens… imagine that being the brag about a guy the franchise sold their souls for…if he is not good by week 3 or 4, they need to figure something out..
Yea I agree this is the "now or never" year but I also feel like his play has been overly criticized. His last 3 games (no including the 10 plays or so in Indy) he had 3 solid-really good efforts. I think 289 (should've been 300+ but they said Coop was out of bounds), 2 TDs on 70% completion vs TN, 250ish total yards 2 TDs vs AZ (yea they stink lol) and the 14/14 comeback with broken shoulder and ankle sprain against BAL. I think the biggest thing for DW4 is getting a stretch of games together of being on the field. He got better at the end of 2022, his last few games of '23 were better. Hard to be successful with the start/stopping of play time. Also Flacco was better suited for that "old" Stefanski offense. He turned it over a lot tho. Ken Dorsey coming in to run the Buffalo/Daboll offense to spread it out more should help. That and the Jeudy trade and being on the field I think Watson plays well this year
Totally fair!
That was last year for me with him, I'm now in the sh_t up faze. if he has a great comeback year great, but I don't want to hear any hype at this point or expectations of a good year. Just save and let his game do the talking now
Can we just talk about football, and leave yourself and your feelings out😮
🤹
Two pick 6 in the playoffs
I love the take bro we got everything to win it all , it’s all on Watson
Thank you! I appreciate it!
True,,now or never
Yup
The Browns averaged more points when Watson was the qb
I honestly have no idea how good DeShaun will be. He's barely played these last couple years & I just need to see him on the field more to see how he plays
Completely fair!
I think hes going to be what his best was last year. Will see some great flashes and some awesome decisions with the football and look confident but, that will be the peak
Did you see the convo I tagged you in about Dak? Does tagging on TH-cam work? Lol
@@JWLSports who me? No I didn’t? Is it one of your videos?
Yup. I guess tagging doesn’t work on here. Someone in the comments was arguing Dak is better than Lamar and Burrow 🤯
Thats an unfair assessment against Flacco in the playoffs. They didnt play yhe run at all and just came after the passer. Flacco had no time at all during that game from the second quarter on. That line and the def was awful the whole game
I never saw that with Watson being a pat mahome at all
If Watson is good this year the Browns have a real chance..But I'm more excited for next year..because they will build off good to great
Superbowl go Browns
They changed the offense, Ken Dorsey is the new oc
i disagree that this year is all or nothing. It's the national media who's making this assumption . We know what happens when you assume things. Now the premise and logic behind that Flaco ran this offense better than Watson is bogus. Two people Berry and Stefanski ( who are very intelligent ) already knew that Flacco and Watson run different style of offenses. That is why they hired Ken Dorsey. They are going to create an offense similar to the offense Watson ran in Houston and the offense they ran in Buffalo.
The browns organization ( Berry & Stephanski) can detect their weakness and hire key important people to help fix the problem. Joe Woods was replaced by Jim Schwartz last year and the defense was great, Dorsey along with Mike Vrabel will make this team well rounded coaching staff.
The all or nothing year for the Waton implies this is last year of his contract, so now the national media is taking the micro approach.
I wanna heard Kimberly talk 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I agree it’s this yr or never, well they got a new OC so the play action is not going to be a thing it will take a back seat to a down field ball slinging offense
And he still don’t do Jack diddly squat😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Except assault ppl. 😮😢
It's CHAMPING....at the bit, people. CHAMPING.
lol google says it can be both. 😂
@@JWLSports well, one is the actual word. And the other is an idiom because SO MANY misunderstand it. Think of it. “Chomping” is what some child imagined that the horse is doing because it is in his mouth. But, that isn’t what it’s doing. It is moving its jaw around due to discomfort. Just because they sound similar, and you’re ignorant of the actual word and activity, does not mean that they are the same thing.
The White Stripes have a song called “Seven Nation Army”. Jack White got that name from when he was a kid, he heard the name Salvation Army…and thought that’s what they were saying. No sensible, literate adult would subsequently say that NOW the Christian Charity is called “Seven Nation Army”. It’s still Salvation Army. This is a hypothetical of how an idiom could be created. So…rather than studying emojis and using them in text, why don’t you google IDIOMS.
(By the way, google is not a definitive source of what is. It is a source for what people THINK is. Learn the difference).
Well google this, words, phrases, and languages evolve. You’re not as smart as you think you are. 🤷♂️ Maybe read up on John McWhorter. An actual linguist. And google isn’t a source. It’s a collection of sources. Not unlike a library. 😂 You’re trying so hard to sound smart right now.
@@JWLSports not trying, and not concerned whether you think so or not. It’s not about me. Secondly, I know of McWhorter. On rare occasions, I agree with him. I also acknowledge his superiority on the subject. Be that as it may…it’s champing. I don’t give a fat rat’s who you insert into the discussion. The facts are as I stated. “Chomping” is idiomatic.
And another thing, trying to be correct is not trying to “be smart”. Correctness is an ethical stance. Smartness is a condition. Correctness requires effort. One’s intelligence is already determined. AND…would you say that defending incorrectness is trying to be stupid? If not, is attempting to correct me not “trying to be smart”? Please take the pieces of your petard with you.
@@JWLSports Ya, they probably also say "hone in on" isn't an idiotic mutation of "home in on" either. 🤣 Stupid follows stupid; smarten up!
Flacco pick 6 king
They are HATERS you can't convince them only with a SB TITLE
Go back to the Baltimore ravens game Watson played like the quarterback we need browns need the quarterback in the final drive to deliver and he did he was on the rise until he’s got the tools and skills to win these close games browns have lost in the past should be exciting year if bro browns stay healthy the will be dangerous if you look at roster top to bottom we’re strong in every area just got to execute I believe the browns will with Watson will do extremely well and hopefully the whole team can stay healthy
When.. he been there 3 yrs!😂
Im so sick of hearing haters like you
Watson or not count the browns in for a super bowl run
How?
He was a 2 yr wonder in Houston and thankfully for them he gone and the that dude they call HIM…😂😂😂😂😂 in cj
You're the FDA (football devil's advocate) I love your 2 sided coin approach, but check my previous comment about Watson
Thank you so much! I appreciate it. I always try and look at everything from multiple angles and try my best to explain both sides!
What was he charged with doing?
🤦♂️
We don't need to hear what You have to say
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If you think Joe Flacco did better than Watson, who was 5-1 with a hurt shoulder, you are smoking crack
Flacco sucked at crunch time
Flacco is a bum-beater only. Watson was held back by Stefanski and his BS offensive philosophy. Stay out of D4's bedroom!
lol
History will tell you that with the Cleveland Browns, he’s likely washed up 🤣
Not with Stefanski! He made Joe Flacco look like an MVP off the couch
@@JWLSports I agree, but the Browns will likely fire him 🤣
That would be wild!
He looked pretty dang good last year, especially considering he played 3 games with a broken bone in his shoulder. Without that injury the Browns would’ve won the division last year.
Deshawn was NEVER A PAT MAHOLMES HE WAS NOT EVEN THAT GOOD
Who said he was as good as Mahomes?
@@JWLSportsyou did Sir 3:56
I said he was seen as that. Not that he was. But he fit that mold of everything Mahomes is and his trajectory was supposed to be that of Mahomes. Which obviously did not pan out.
Dam gotta love espn they call it how it is. This offense was much better with Joe Flacco and not Watson. I agree with the expert analysts. And it is NOW or NEVER for deshaun. This is going to be year 3. If he continues to be a bottom 5 qb. Browns cant waste anymore time.
Flacco beat up on bums and a wounded Texans team while being a turnover machine. When rubber met the road got waxed. Watson went on the road against a division rival facing the # 1 ranked d and beat them with a broken shoulder for first place in the division. Let’s stop this foolishness please 😩🤭
You can't convince ludicrous haters
@@SoSuave100 flacco led deshaun in yards, tds, passer rating, qbr and pff grade. And flacco started less games too. Joe also had a better td to turnover ratio than watson too. Those are all facts, you have to accept reality.
@@anthonypa8045 again against bums. Jags jets bears. Even the first Texans win they were without their top DB 😂🤣 this isn’t even close to being an argument. Flacco would have gotten destroyed against the ravens.
@@SoSuave100 no one gets to choose who they play. The browns were 4-1 with watson and flacco under center. But Flacco as a individual had much better stats. And it's hard to comment on your Baltimore game take because that's just your opinion and not fact at all. I say he wins that game too.
Worst contract in the NFL dudes wash. the browns will go 7-10
No whatever they pay Dak will be the worst contract.