Ay you probably right 12-5 was the limit last season but this season with Mike vabrel and Kevin’s and abs extended it’s the best time for that Super Bowl win in our window since 2020
It's extremely difficult to project the Browns or anyone in their division in 2024 because all the teams are so good. It will likely come down to injuries, as the NFL always does.
no doubt, I think Cleveland does have an edge though because no one was more injured than them last year and they kept on rolling, that counts for something
@@diamondrg3556 Everyone else is going to do their job and did their job pretty well even injured at times, Watson had his moments last season but this year I think he definitely will have a better mindset and focus coming into the season at least
Very well-made video and great breakdown game by game analysis. I agree a lot of these picks and think the Browns will finish in the same position they did last year, but with a much more polished and refined look to them by the end of the season.
My grandfather just to say "between what I can and want to do there would always be what I managed to accomplish". It's very difficult to predict NFL seasons for any team. There are so many unknowns... potential injuries to key players, suspensions, contract disputes, etc... I would say the Browns will definitely compete, but it may just come down to one of these unknown factors that determines who wins the AFC North.
My man I subscribed because you sound like what I’ve said last yr and this one. Everyone is overlooking the fact that this isn’t the same team from last yr, it’s loaded with quality depth on both sides of the ball. Having Winston and DTR with more time under his belt solidified the qb position, the depth at rb gives us juice to wear down D which allows Njoku to go crazy late in second halves! I had us at 11-6 last yr, this yr I think 13-4 is very doable because winning builds confidence, and if Watson finds his forreal, man they may as well hand the Browns the trophy, and they’ll repeat as champs because the team is deep now, coaching and GM is rock solid! If Dorsey is solid we now have the dynasty reborn. I’m really feeling the Browns are just at the edge of brilliant run, I would’ve liked to see Bell let go and Renfro signed just for this season as a possession receiver, if not him then bring back Jarvis Landry, unless Tillman and Matt Landers can get on track, really would love to see Landers with his height. Let me say this about Watson, his line wasn’t healthy, he didn’t have Chubb, wideouts were new and some rookies, yet he managed to be 5-0, that’s from a guy who had been gone two yrs, came back for six games in bad weather and went 3-3, his next season was last yr, he had finally got to have a full training camp, his first one, and despite a bad Oline and no Chubb, he was 5-0 prior to season ending injury, this is only his second full training camp with the Browns, everything’s been upgraded, if the Oline stays healthy and this guy gets time to throw the offense will average 33.6 points per game, and the Defense allowing an average of 20.9 pts per game, it all translates to us being in the AFCCG, and if that happens, the way this team is now, and having gone through the Texans let down, this team will deliver a dominating performance, and sports media with be all on the Dawg Bone! DraftKings will have Cleveland as a 3-1 favorite to win their Super Bowl match up Philly, the season rematch, and Cleveland will blow Philly out, because Jalen gets hurt early, and Donta Foreman will run for 245yds (Chubb was lost for the season in the Chiefs game! Hunt will be resigned). This season is the one that made city hall build a dome stadium on the lakefront in downtown Cleveland!…(sorry Brookpark, I know you thought y’all had it, but the Browns played to stay in Cleveland!)
Just letting you know that you and I have pretty much the exact same Sean Payton take, so I was happy to hit that subscribe. And GO BROWNS woof woof woof woof woof
What kind of crystal ball are you looking in to get your predictions? I need to get me one of those ASAP! It's too early to tell what kind of team emerges after training camp.
People r sleeping on Foreman! Even when or if Chubb comes back thats gonna be a great 1-2 punch. A bigger more explosive Hunt IMO. Imagine having to tackle those two monsters for 4 quarters. Brusing backs!
without a doubt, I talked about it at length in a video about a month back! I think Jerome Ford will become RB3/3rd down exclusive - If chubb isn't ready to start the season, Foreman is the guy. Thanks for watching!
You’re right! People forget he was rated ahead of Chubb for the heisman and was a number one pick! When healthy the guy is phenomenal, and catches good too! I think our oline needs better strength coaches to build guys up more, jones will replace Conklin mid season, and the Michigan guy will replaces Wilkes, that’s when the line gets great! Watson will have a wall of protection then!
@@optimisticfancluband you as big of a bozo as the rest of browns fans bengals coming to humble you as we are the only great team in Ohio right now so shut up and sit back watch some real football 😂
@@optimisticfanclub Probably something like if the browns never moved to Baltimore,if the browns actually built a team around Tim Couch or if Modell never fired Paul Brown
Really the fans would be complaining this entire season if it played out the same he predicts because outside of maybe Dallas, they would lose every major non divisional game they have. So there would be a lot of worry about being frauds that can’t beat the really good teams.
@@tylerdaniel8956broens could be 10 and 0 and be complaining IF watson does not throw for 4k yards and 45 td....... Ppl are too caught up on stats....the only state I care about is wins and losses
i had em at 11-6/12-5 last year, which was spot on. I have them at 12-4-1/13-4 this year. I know, a tie wtf. I just have a feeling. I really believe that year 2 in schwartz’s system is gonna be even better this season. He will be able to open things up and add some schemes no one saw last year. I love Jeudy and the story with him being here with Coop. He’s gonna have a season. He will push Coop and Coop will push him. I also know Tillmans gonna take a huge step and really b a force in the red zone. I also think Thrash is gonna be absolutely explosive and have himself a year too. I loved him in the draft, and can’t believe he fell to Cleveland. He’s a special special player and we will see it this year. Jones will continue to dominate, being even better this year and solidifying his spot as this lines future anchor. Chubb and Foreman will be fantastic 1/2 punch, and will have a lot of room with the pass game being as explosive as it will be. That leads me to DW. I’ve said it would take 10ish games since day 1. That’s where it was when he started playing really well last year. DW will pick up where he left off and we will see the guy they traded for
I really think it's an interesting thing about the hip-drop tackle being "banned", so sleeping on a crazy amount of passing yards across the league may be dangerous. IE David Njoku and Amari Cooper being the larger type of receivers/tight ends, and also running backs for that matter, they should feast overall? Also including any weird defensive penalties because of the uncertainty of what constitutes a penalty in regards to that. Or is that some media hype that I'm just not catching on to? Thoughts?
Love the prediction. I think it is on the optimistic side, which is probably why I like it. Browns getting healthy/better, but other teams not sitting still either.
I agree with the final record. I think you might be a bit higher on the offense than I am lol averaging 27.2 points per game. Wouldve been good for 5th highest last season. I think we are still gonna have to grind out plenty of games whether it be due to turnovers or that cleveland weather. But i see a 11 or 12 win season as well barring injuries
I think the Ken Dorsey effect is real! - Also, scoring as a whole was down last year, and I think the league will look to rectify that - I just think a top 8 offense is what they need to stay relevant. Appreciate the thoughtful comment as usual!
The most important part about the Chargers game is how many Browns fans are also Buckeyes fans. This means that if we lose to them the fanbase will explode unlike anything else in the season.
I think our Defense is gonna be crazy good again.. Chubb coming back wit a attitude Watson dink dunk to Judy and moore speeed but dnt forget Njoku an MARI Bro we are gonna scary this year
I think the overall number of wins will probably be pretty close to accurate. But I view the Browns losing one or two games that they should easily win and winning one or two games that they really shouldn't.
I would love to see the Brownies go 12-5. But for the Browns to achieve what you say, they’d have to have an injury-free campaign, where all the starters have career seasons. I think 10-7 or another 11-6 season is possible.
Please make a follow up video for Kyler Murray, watch some press conferences or interviews with the radio station "Arizona sports". I think he's taken huge strides as a leader and I would love to hear if ur opinions have changed or not.
Sounds awesome, assuming not one starter or key player gets injured. And in the NFL there's never been a team that avoids the injury bugs. Let's go week by week and see what happens injury wise also are opponents.
11-6 with the potential for 12-5 is what I’m predicting just because this schedule is BRUTAL. We really really need a fast start, I would love to predict an AFC North championship but our division is just absolutely stacked. Overall extremely excited for this team & staff, and I believe in DW4. I also love the media bashing/sleeping on us again. Keep that us against the world mentality again this year. #OptimisticBrownsClub I also don’t think we need Texans level DW4 to compete for a SB. He doesn’t need to play hero ball like he did there, he’s surrounded by legit elite talents. I think he needs to be top 8ish, but doesn’t need to be the MVP of the league. Some of our fans just weirdly hate him, and forever will no matter what.
good points, and absolutely, people forget that DW4 had to carry his team a lot of the time, especially the year everyone likes to reference - Those texans weren't a playoff contender, not even close. They need him to be what he was in the Baltimore game, a playmaker who can improvise when he needs to, but overall just hits the easy stuff consistently
Great analysis. You're one of the best up an coming TH-camrs at this. Keep it up. My biggest question mark is whether or not Dorsey brings a better system than Kevin. I have bad memories of when the Browns brought in Todd Monken and the blend of Kitchens/Monken offense was terrible. No identify and muddy. Watson isn't a crisp QB. He prefers a loose backyard style of play. When flacco came in and ran Kevin's offense it looked totally different than when Watson ran it and they put up a lot of points. However, flaccos gun slinger and sometimes careless ways ended up shooting the team in the foot. It doesn't seem like Deahaun can masterfully run the west coast / play action / inside/outside zone offense that Kevin dials up skillfully. Will Dorsey make things click for Watson or will it be a muddy mess? It's gonna be interesting. The Monken era gives me similar feelings to this year.
Great show and channel but my one complaint ? Stop taking down your cut away's so quickly I don't get a chance to read or see all the info before it disappeared otherwise keep up the great Browns content.
Yes I have to agree with you I think the Browns will be a great team this season I like all your picks except the chargers and dolphins I don’t know but I think we can get one of these teams both by playing great defensive football and let our running game carry the day but I’m with you 100 percent ❤Go Browns
What people need to understand is, all of the terrible things that have derailed the Browns seasons are only going to happen for so long. Watson will not be hurt this season and will most definitely not be suspended, and most of the time when he plays we win. (The numbers don’t lie) Nick Chubb will be back, he has a history of not being injured. Also the Browns have the best defense and they added some brilliant offensive minds to the coaching staff. Watch out, It’s going to happen this year, Cleveland.
The Browns will have a winning record if DeShaun stays healthy. I think your right on about wins and losses, but we will probably get pummeled in Miami by about 21 points. I don't like it but it is gonna be hurricane season and that's the game I'm not liking.
11-6. I'd take your exact games except the last one. They lose and finish 2nd but maybe win a road playoff game. If we're placing bets I wouldn't pick them north champs until I see them win the division. Lamar doesn't shit the bed unless it's an elimination game. Obviously, as a Browns fan I want to see Watson and Chubb return to form and be the #1 seed. Like a historic 16-1 season and an actual favorite to take it all. We deserve it.
Chargers beat the browns with what weapons? Just because they added harbough / lost Brandon Staley? I like your content but that game wasn’t super thought out.
Not everything makes the cut, but the Chargers playmakers on D, and most of all like I mentioned, the chargers run game will be lethal. 49ers the year before and after Harbaugh statistically is insane so I’m basing it a lot on the past as well as the fact they have Herbert
Did you say the Raiders in in a hard division? All the teams in the AFCW are middling or suck except the Chiefs. The Chargers improved in a lot of places, but didn't they lose most of their receiver talent? I am a Bengals fan looking to learn about the other division teams. You seem like a good source. I will look at some other videos and maybe sub.
One think the Browns need to drive into his head is, hook slide. His shoulder injury came from taking on 2 linebackers, when he should have gone to ground.
Don't even blame Jimmy Haslam for drafting Johnny Football, Jon Gruden said that if he had the first pick he would draft Johnny Manziel. Of course it was a big mistake but Haslam wasn't the only one excited about Johnny Manziel.
You may say 8m petty but Kevin has not won a playoff game yet.....Pitt app was in control. It's not a dig ( cuz I think he would have won the cheifs game if they called that helmet to helmet when the ball got fumbled into the endzone) But it is what it is
There are countless videos I watched last year about how stacked we were and how we were possibly the best team in the league. We ended up getting smoked in the 1st round.
I agree that the media is overlooking The Browns. I'm a Lion's fan so I can speak without preference. The media wants to know Watson and Chub will be back full strength before taking a position on the Browns. This is an offensive league now and you have to be able to score lots of points. You're great Defence isn't enough to bank on unless they're a scoring Defense. I assume Watson and Chub will be back up up to form, and a huge threat in the AFC. Until they prove it however The Browns will probably continue to be obscure in the media spotlight.
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We MUST win vs Dallas and Miami. Those are completely national games and will change our stigma once and for all. My two most worrisome games are vs KC and at PIT. Im 16 and know this. 2023 was the first time the Real Browns were back. Winning the north this year will make fans like my parents/grandparents believe this team is good again.
I'm 45 and been a fan since I was 8 lol. I'm glad kids like u didn't have to suffer through the most miserable days!! Happy u have a team u can root for and not be embarrassed about lol. Big things r coming for us. I'm sure ur parents and family will be happy as well. Happy to have u in the club my boy!!
Sadly it won’t change nationally because mainstream media doesn’t watch games anymore. It’s all stat manipulation and clickbait narratives. A Super Bowl is all that will get their heads out of you know where, and even then I bet many will still find something to pick at. They just can’t give us props. The league doesn’t like the Haslams or Deshaun.
We have the talent theres no doubt abt that. But just like any winning team you have to catch some breaks. Things need to go your way and that's our problem. But if DW4 can stay healthy and the defense shows up again this year we can play with anyone.
We will win 1 that we would barely lose (eagles or chiefs ) We will lose 1 that we shouldn’t ( saints , raiders , giants ) Injuries will cost us a gane (it’s like that for most teams ) I’m predicting 11-6 If they sweep the bengals that final game against ravens will be for division 100%
13-14 wins The probable losses are Philly, Chiefs, and splitting with Baltimore and Pittsburgh--the Steelers will likely suck this year but me must respect them
We aren’t taking a W in both at Denver and At Piss . We always lose at Denver and at Pitt. Split is likely out of those 2 …..at Piss will be more important obviously.
I can respect the breakdown as a Ravens fan. I don't think they are going to beat pittsburgh twice. Ravens will win both and you'll loose to the cowboys week 1 too.
I’d say they’ll win 2 more games 13-4 and that’s leads them into great playoff seeding and we finally get our first superbowl appearance of forever and we will win it 🎉🧡🐶🤎
@@dougkagey535 he did win a playoff game ? He won against the Steelers when the brown got shafted by the refs on a helmet to helmet on the 1 yard line.
Openers are always a coin flip. I give the edge to Dallas simply because the rust on Deshaun. I could realistically see them start 0-2. I have them at 10-7 and a wild card w/ losses: DAL, Jax, Phi, BAL, Pit, KC, and Bal.
I think they’ll win these early season games as you predict but you’re too bullish on the offense. Dial those scoring expectations back by a full touchdown per game.
As tough as this schedule is they have already beat most these teams even KC , Cinci has a new owner(The Browns), Baltimore knows what we're about, and Philly will get plucked. I have my Browns season at the end 13-4 because they lose to some weak teams and beat the ones they're supposed to lose to Go Browns!!!
I don't think 12-5 will win you the AFC North. I think all 4 teams in the division will get at least 10 wins. Pit: 10-7 Cin:12-5 Bal: 12-5 Cle: 13-4. Cleveland wins division. Bal, Cin, Pit all still make the playoffs via wild card. Cle beats Buf in AFC championship. Cle beats Det for 1st Suberbowl trophy. Watson wins come back player of the year. Garrett takes his 2nd DPOY award.
The only way Cleveland finishes above the Bengals and Ravens is if both Lamar and Burrow get injured. Ain't no way y'all winning the division otherwise.
Apparently our defense will suddenly let anyone with a half way competent offense score 30 on us. Apparently Watson(who’s shown to be able to keep the ball out of opponents hands) will not be able to close out games against good teams. The chargers have no one to throw the ball to and have 2 nobodies at rb. The Chiefs have no one to throw the ball to besides an old Kelce. Philly and the ravens I’ll give you but seriously dude 10 weeks to knock off rust for Watson who wasn’t even rusty last season is ridiculous
Also the dolphins are not good, they have no Oline to match our dline. Tua can’t handle pressure or cold. They have no advantage over us because their team won’t be able to get in place in 2 seconds before we get to Tua seriously man you browns pages all suck lmao no analysis all feelings dressed up in football terminology
wow, that's quite the analysis you shared - so the browns are going undefeated? and if you were paying attention, you would have heard me say the dolphins advantage comes with crossing routes, deep overs etc with Waddle and Tyreek Hill. Denzel Ward is the only DB on the Browns with the speed to match. Also, google the 49ers the year before and the year after hiring Jim Harbaugh. Look at who their receivers were. The Chiefs have Pat Mahomes, they also have a very good defense and a great run game. And what I'm saying about rust is applied to consistency and hitting the lay ups. Watson was not consistent until the second half of the Baltimore game. He still had flashes of exceptional playmaking and accuracy, but he struggled with the easy stuff. Now he's coming off of surgery from his throwing shoulder. I'd watch more of my videos before you say the page sucks, I was the only one who called this team doing as well as they did and there is a catalogue of videos to prove it
@@optimisticfanclub not undefeated. Like I said I’m not even mad that you have us losing to a team like Philly or Baltimore it’s the way you say we lose. I have us the favorite in every matchup due to the strength of this defense and the new offense that centers Watsons skill set. 14-3 is my record prediction. The issue comes in when you basically say good team = browns loss and the only good teams we beat are in division, so in your mind we’re frauds. The defenses road issues mostly stemmed from the offensive turnovers more than them being bad on the road. There were some games like SEA and LAR that we absolutely threw away but again turnovers in those didn’t help the defense whatsoever. As far as Watson, he did good in an archaic offense that didn’t move to his skill set. We had him playing in someone completely foreign to how he played in college and in Houston of course he wouldn’t look that good but he somehow made it work when it mattered that’s not a rust problem that was a fit problem and they addressed that this offseason
Kenny Pickett was historically bad, and Mason Rudolph isn't much better. Wilson was far more productive last season than either of them. I don't see how Pittsburgh gets swept by Cleveland. Mike Tomlin knows how to win a division game.
@@WVU.STEELERS.CELTICS Well, The Browns weren't at their healthiest. The Browns had lost Pro Bowl OT Jack Conklin the week prior and lost Nick Chubb in that game. The Steelers beat the Browns 26-22 despite being outgained 408 to 255, giving up 20 first downs to just 9, and giving up 198 rushing yards. But the Steelers won the TO battle 4-2 and that was the difference. The D scored 14 of the Steelers' 26 points.
@@bigredracingdog466 Steelers got out gained in pretty much every game. We still win bub, that’s what makes our defense so good is the turnovers. Plus Johnson and Pickens both had hamstring problems during that game, so again that’s why I said at our healthiest cause injuries decimated both our teams last year. You Browns fans funny thinking you gonna sweep us especially now that we have two QBs who outperform Kenny. Watson will be out on IR by week 7 so doubt will even be up against him.
The problem with Watson, even when healthy last year, just simply didn’t see so many of his wide open options. He either ended up settling for the wrong or more difficult option, or just bailed and ran. Flacco off the couch did well seeing his options and reading the defense. Watson struggles with his options and reading the defense. I’m not optimistic in him making the necessary strides in either area. We only go as far as his progression
What will the Browns record be in 2024?? ALSO PLEASE EXCUSE MY FEW TYPOS IN THE VIDEO!!
I wont because how you do one thing is how you do everything. Your audience deserves better.
Ay you probably right 12-5 was the limit last season but this season with Mike vabrel and Kevin’s and abs extended it’s the best time for that Super Bowl win in our window since 2020
@@codyrico23 I really hope ur kidding
@@LaStOnE_leFt i am joeys my brother🤣🤣
I have a bad feeling about the Browns in 2024
It's extremely difficult to project the Browns or anyone in their division in 2024 because all the teams are so good. It will likely come down to injuries, as the NFL always does.
no doubt, I think Cleveland does have an edge though because no one was more injured than them last year and they kept on rolling, that counts for something
Glad to see you're going to be back for another season
It's gonna be a good one!
17-0 Browns winning the Superbowl
Keep dreaming
@@anthonya8496 ok you’re right maybe 16-1
You think Watson returns to MVP form?
@@diamondrg3556 Everyone else is going to do their job and did their job pretty well even injured at times, Watson had his moments last season but this year I think he definitely will have a better mindset and focus coming into the season at least
I'm a browns and were not going 17-0 were still gonna have and a winning record or a outstanding recorde and make it to the playoffs but chill.
Man I’m excited for this season
me as well!!
😂😂😂still excited at 1-5 ??? Cleveland will never compete seriously.
Every other year is a down season then rebuild😂😂😂
Not a Browns fan but Sub because I like your breakdown. Let's hope Chubb returns in something resemblung his previous form.
appreciate that!! tons of non Browns stuff on my channel you might enjoy!
Man let's go! So excited for this year! DW4 boutta show up!!!!
🤣T.J. Watts father, big man Jones 🤣🤣
Which video hit on Ben Sinnott? Love that guy.
Great video, thanks!
The Browns Crushed Free Agency + Mock Draft
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Fast forward......Dallas makes it look easy. 😂😂😂
Easy isnt the right word for what we saw lol
Very well-made video and great breakdown game by game analysis. I agree a lot of these picks and think the Browns will finish in the same position they did last year, but with a much more polished and refined look to them by the end of the season.
Much appreciated!!
“You can probably tell by my tone” as he stays mono toned the whole time. I feel that struggle my boy…. Go dawgs.
Keep up the good work. I like your delivery, very interesting.
Nice channel bro! I’ll be back… I started respecting you after you proved you predicted a 12-5 season!! You’re a smart one!! Let’s go Browns !
My grandfather just to say "between what I can and want to do there would always be what I managed to accomplish". It's very difficult to predict NFL seasons for any team. There are so many unknowns... potential injuries to key players, suspensions, contract disputes, etc... I would say the Browns will definitely compete, but it may just come down to one of these unknown factors that determines who wins the AFC North.
Finally a realistic minded Browns youtuber!! 👊
My man I subscribed because you sound like what I’ve said last yr and this one. Everyone is overlooking the fact that this isn’t the same team from last yr, it’s loaded with quality depth on both sides of the ball. Having Winston and DTR with more time under his belt solidified the qb position, the depth at rb gives us juice to wear down D which allows Njoku to go crazy late in second halves! I had us at 11-6 last yr, this yr I think 13-4 is very doable because winning builds confidence, and if Watson finds his forreal, man they may as well hand the Browns the trophy, and they’ll repeat as champs because the team is deep now, coaching and GM is rock solid! If Dorsey is solid we now have the dynasty reborn. I’m really feeling the Browns are just at the edge of brilliant run, I would’ve liked to see Bell let go and Renfro signed just for this season as a possession receiver, if not him then bring back Jarvis Landry, unless Tillman and Matt Landers can get on track, really would love to see Landers with his height. Let me say this about Watson, his line wasn’t healthy, he didn’t have Chubb, wideouts were new and some rookies, yet he managed to be 5-0, that’s from a guy who had been gone two yrs, came back for six games in bad weather and went 3-3, his next season was last yr, he had finally got to have a full training camp, his first one, and despite a bad Oline and no Chubb, he was 5-0 prior to season ending injury, this is only his second full training camp with the Browns, everything’s been upgraded, if the Oline stays healthy and this guy gets time to throw the offense will average 33.6 points per game, and the Defense allowing an average of 20.9 pts per game, it all translates to us being in the AFCCG, and if that happens, the way this team is now, and having gone through the Texans let down, this team will deliver a dominating performance, and sports media with be all on the Dawg Bone! DraftKings will have Cleveland as a 3-1 favorite to win their Super Bowl match up Philly, the season rematch, and Cleveland will blow Philly out, because Jalen gets hurt early, and Donta Foreman will run for 245yds (Chubb was lost for the season in the Chiefs game! Hunt will be resigned). This season is the one that made city hall build a dome stadium on the lakefront in downtown Cleveland!…(sorry Brookpark, I know you thought y’all had it, but the Browns played to stay in Cleveland!)
Dawg you have us scoring SO MANY points lol I don’t think scoring 30-40 points a game is a part of our identity.
Dorsey teams score a lot of points, we also have the easiest strength of schedule against CBs this year, I just feel something will change
I am okay with the total outcome ,but so many high scoring games is not with in reason.
Just letting you know that you and I have pretty much the exact same Sean Payton take, so I was happy to hit that subscribe. And GO BROWNS woof woof woof woof woof
love it! thanks for the support man!
love the video man, go brownies and go tribe!
appreciate it man!
I got us at 11-6 or 12-5 too! I agree with almost every game u had
high quality vids man
Thanks so much!
If 12-5 wins afc north, and ravens have similar record, how do you see the bengals finishing, 10-7?
What kind of crystal ball are you looking in to get your predictions? I need to get me one of those ASAP! It's too early to tell what kind of team emerges after training camp.
I got it off of TEMU
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People r sleeping on Foreman! Even when or if Chubb comes back thats gonna be a great 1-2 punch. A bigger more explosive Hunt IMO. Imagine having to tackle those two monsters for 4 quarters. Brusing backs!
without a doubt, I talked about it at length in a video about a month back! I think Jerome Ford will become RB3/3rd down exclusive - If chubb isn't ready to start the season, Foreman is the guy. Thanks for watching!
@@optimisticfanclub I agree. But can you imagine a healthy Chubb and Foreman?!?!
You’re right! People forget he was rated ahead of Chubb for the heisman and was a number one pick! When healthy the guy is phenomenal, and catches good too! I think our oline needs better strength coaches to build guys up more, jones will replace Conklin mid season, and the Michigan guy will replaces Wilkes, that’s when the line gets great! Watson will have a wall of protection then!
@@optimisticfancluband you as big of a bozo as the rest of browns fans bengals coming to humble you as we are the only great team in Ohio right now so shut up and sit back watch some real football 😂
Imagine Chubb using Dawand Jones as a shield
You should do some what if videos ngl
What would you like to see?
@@optimisticfanclub Probably something like if the browns never moved to Baltimore,if the browns actually built a team around Tim Couch or if Modell never fired Paul Brown
Love your prediction for Cleveland for 2024!!!
They fact that fans will be complaining about a 5-1 record is sad.
Really the fans would be complaining this entire season if it played out the same he predicts because outside of maybe Dallas, they would lose every major non divisional game they have.
So there would be a lot of worry about being frauds that can’t beat the really good teams.
@@tylerdaniel8956broens could be 10 and 0 and be complaining IF watson does not throw for 4k yards and 45 td.......
Ppl are too caught up on stats....the only state I care about is wins and losses
@@BrowniethaDawg hope for the best complain when it doesn’t happen sure but never give up and our players have that same mindset.
i had em at 11-6/12-5 last year, which was spot on. I have them at 12-4-1/13-4 this year. I know, a tie wtf. I just have a feeling. I really believe that year 2 in schwartz’s system is gonna be even better this season. He will be able to open things up and add some schemes no one saw last year. I love Jeudy and the story with him being here with Coop. He’s gonna have a season. He will push Coop and Coop will push him. I also know Tillmans gonna take a huge step and really b a force in the red zone. I also think Thrash is gonna be absolutely explosive and have himself a year too. I loved him in the draft, and can’t believe he fell to Cleveland. He’s a special special player and we will see it this year. Jones will continue to dominate, being even better this year and solidifying his spot as this lines future anchor. Chubb and Foreman will be fantastic 1/2 punch, and will have a lot of room with the pass game being as explosive as it will be. That leads me to DW. I’ve said it would take 10ish games since day 1. That’s where it was when he started playing really well last year. DW will pick up where he left off and we will see the guy they traded for
We struggle with the smaller shifty wrs. So Miami is a nightmare i agree.
without a doubt!
that rams game with puka and tutu had me in shambles
I really think it's an interesting thing about the hip-drop tackle being "banned", so sleeping on a crazy amount of passing yards across the league may be dangerous. IE David Njoku and Amari Cooper being the larger type of receivers/tight ends, and also running backs for that matter, they should feast overall? Also including any weird defensive penalties because of the uncertainty of what constitutes a penalty in regards to that. Or is that some media hype that I'm just not catching on to? Thoughts?
Love the prediction. I think it is on the optimistic side, which is probably why I like it. Browns getting healthy/better, but other teams not sitting still either.
I agree with the final record. I think you might be a bit higher on the offense than I am lol averaging 27.2 points per game. Wouldve been good for 5th highest last season. I think we are still gonna have to grind out plenty of games whether it be due to turnovers or that cleveland weather. But i see a 11 or 12 win season as well barring injuries
I think the Ken Dorsey effect is real! - Also, scoring as a whole was down last year, and I think the league will look to rectify that - I just think a top 8 offense is what they need to stay relevant. Appreciate the thoughtful comment as usual!
@@optimisticfanclub Thats a fair point. this offense if healthy with Dorsey's help could very well take off. Would love to see it!
Good video, very logical and creative.
8:21 commanders* sorry to be that guy lol
Check the pinned comment lol
The most important part about the Chargers game is how many Browns fans are also Buckeyes fans. This means that if we lose to them the fanbase will explode unlike anything else in the season.
I think our Defense is gonna be crazy good again..
Chubb coming back wit a attitude Watson dink dunk to Judy and moore speeed but dnt forget Njoku an MARI
Bro we are gonna scary this year
I think the overall number of wins will probably be pretty close to accurate. But I view the Browns losing one or two games that they should easily win and winning one or two games that they really shouldn't.
That's usually how it goes!
There are no games this year they "shouldn't" win. There will be games this year they won't win, but not because they can't win them.
I would love to see the Brownies go 12-5. But for the Browns to achieve what you say, they’d have to have an injury-free campaign, where all the starters have career seasons. I think 10-7 or another 11-6 season is possible.
Please make a follow up video for Kyler Murray, watch some press conferences or interviews with the radio station "Arizona sports". I think he's taken huge strides as a leader and I would love to hear if ur opinions have changed or not.
Sounds awesome, assuming not one starter or key player gets injured. And in the NFL there's never been a team that avoids the injury bugs. Let's go week by week and see what happens injury wise also are opponents.
Very reasonable take. I like it
11-6 with the potential for 12-5 is what I’m predicting just because this schedule is BRUTAL. We really really need a fast start, I would love to predict an AFC North championship but our division is just absolutely stacked. Overall extremely excited for this team & staff, and I believe in DW4. I also love the media bashing/sleeping on us again. Keep that us against the world mentality again this year. #OptimisticBrownsClub I also don’t think we need Texans level DW4 to compete for a SB. He doesn’t need to play hero ball like he did there, he’s surrounded by legit elite talents. I think he needs to be top 8ish, but doesn’t need to be the MVP of the league. Some of our fans just weirdly hate him, and forever will no matter what.
good points, and absolutely, people forget that DW4 had to carry his team a lot of the time, especially the year everyone likes to reference - Those texans weren't a playoff contender, not even close. They need him to be what he was in the Baltimore game, a playmaker who can improvise when he needs to, but overall just hits the easy stuff consistently
Ur high... if watson stays healthy we win the afc north easy.....remeber the browns had the SECOND best record in the afc last year
@@aaronclay4665 you’re stupid if you think the AFC North has EVER been “easily won” it’s the best division in the NFL wtf are you talking about bub?
And he was totally innocent! Passed two grand juries in different jurisdictions!
When we play the Dolphins i need Kevin Stefanski to call Bill Belichick and ask him for some of his advice on how to try and stop that offense
Very nice content
Great analysis. You're one of the best up an coming TH-camrs at this. Keep it up. My biggest question mark is whether or not Dorsey brings a better system than Kevin. I have bad memories of when the Browns brought in Todd Monken and the blend of Kitchens/Monken offense was terrible. No identify and muddy. Watson isn't a crisp QB. He prefers a loose backyard style of play. When flacco came in and ran Kevin's offense it looked totally different than when Watson ran it and they put up a lot of points. However, flaccos gun slinger and sometimes careless ways ended up shooting the team in the foot. It doesn't seem like Deahaun can masterfully run the west coast / play action / inside/outside zone offense that Kevin dials up skillfully. Will Dorsey make things click for Watson or will it be a muddy mess? It's gonna be interesting. The Monken era gives me similar feelings to this year.
Great show and channel but my one complaint ? Stop taking down your cut away's so quickly I don't get a chance to read or see all the info before it disappeared otherwise keep up the great Browns content.
Meaning the scores or just screenshots etc in general? Appreciate the feedback
Yes I have to agree with you I think the Browns will be a great team this season I like all your picks except the chargers and dolphins I don’t know but I think we can get one of these teams both by playing great defensive football and let our running game carry the day but I’m with you 100 percent ❤Go Browns
I think they’ll go 14-3.
What people need to understand is, all of the terrible things that have derailed the Browns seasons are only going to happen for so long. Watson will not be hurt this season and will most definitely not be suspended, and most of the time when he plays we win. (The numbers don’t lie) Nick Chubb will be back, he has a history of not being injured. Also the Browns have the best defense and they added some brilliant offensive minds to the coaching staff. Watch out, It’s going to happen this year, Cleveland.
The Browns will have a winning record if DeShaun stays healthy. I think your right on about wins and losses, but we will probably get pummeled in Miami by about 21 points. I don't like it but it is gonna be hurricane season and that's the game I'm not liking.
11-6. I'd take your exact games except the last one. They lose and finish 2nd but maybe win a road playoff game. If we're placing bets I wouldn't pick them north champs until I see them win the division. Lamar doesn't shit the bed unless it's an elimination game.
Obviously, as a Browns fan I want to see Watson and Chubb return to form and be the #1 seed. Like a historic 16-1 season and an actual favorite to take it all. We deserve it.
Chargers beat the browns with what weapons? Just because they added harbough / lost Brandon Staley? I like your content but that game wasn’t super thought out.
Not everything makes the cut, but the Chargers playmakers on D, and most of all like I mentioned, the chargers run game will be lethal. 49ers the year before and after Harbaugh statistically is insane so I’m basing it a lot on the past as well as the fact they have Herbert
I hope you are right.. I’m riding with you!
I believe Jamies Winston will be playing a lot this year
Did you say the Raiders in in a hard division? All the teams in the AFCW are middling or suck except the Chiefs. The Chargers improved in a lot of places, but didn't they lose most of their receiver talent?
I am a Bengals fan looking to learn about the other division teams. You seem like a good source. I will look at some other videos and maybe sub.
One think the Browns need to drive into his head is, hook slide. His shoulder injury came from taking on 2 linebackers, when he should have gone to ground.
Don't even blame Jimmy Haslam for drafting Johnny Football, Jon Gruden said that if he had the first pick he would draft Johnny Manziel. Of course it was a big mistake but Haslam wasn't the only one excited about Johnny Manziel.
Jon Gruden also traded Khalil Mack and Amari Cooper lol - I get what you’re saying though
Stefansky has removed the tag of the same old Browns
The person responsible for removing that tag is none other than Jarvis landry.....never forget
You may say 8m petty but Kevin has not won a playoff game yet.....Pitt app was in control.
It's not a dig ( cuz I think he would have won the cheifs game if they called that helmet to helmet when the ball got fumbled into the endzone)
But it is what it is
There are countless videos I watched last year about how stacked we were and how we were possibly the best team in the league. We ended up getting smoked in the 1st round.
Small creators for sure, but the main stream narrative before week 1 and up to week 10 was that we would be/were the worst in our division
But we got there! And was banged up, but we made it anyway! Don’t ever forget that, you must be from Pissburgh Pa!
@@tedbogan6099 how many players were out that game on defense?
@@tedbogan6099 did we still have Schwartz? Stop with the excuses.
I believe the Cleveland browns in their next campaign can possibly carry it all the way to the super bowl if they stay healthy! 🙏😊🎆🚨
I agree that the media is overlooking The Browns. I'm a Lion's fan so I can speak without preference. The media wants to know Watson and Chub will be back full strength before taking a position on the Browns. This is an offensive league now and you have to be able to score lots of points. You're great Defence isn't enough to bank on unless they're a scoring Defense. I assume Watson and Chub will be back up up to form, and a huge threat in the AFC. Until they prove it however The Browns will probably continue to be obscure in the media spotlight.
We MUST win vs Dallas and Miami. Those are completely national games and will change our stigma once and for all.
My two most worrisome games are vs KC and at PIT.
Im 16 and know this. 2023 was the first time the Real Browns were back. Winning the north this year will make fans like my parents/grandparents believe this team is good again.
I'm 45 and been a fan since I was 8 lol. I'm glad kids like u didn't have to suffer through the most miserable days!! Happy u have a team u can root for and not be embarrassed about lol. Big things r coming for us. I'm sure ur parents and family will be happy as well. Happy to have u in the club my boy!!
appreciate you watching! The horrors of the 2000's and 2010's is long gone! Now it's time to take the next step
Sadly it won’t change nationally because mainstream media doesn’t watch games anymore. It’s all stat manipulation and clickbait narratives. A Super Bowl is all that will get their heads out of you know where, and even then I bet many will still find something to pick at. They just can’t give us props. The league doesn’t like the Haslams or Deshaun.
13-4 win division with number 1 seed
I was talking to a dude yesterday and he said the browns is going to the AFC championship this year
We have the talent theres no doubt abt that. But just like any winning team you have to catch some breaks. Things need to go your way and that's our problem.
But if DW4 can stay healthy and the defense shows up again this year we can play with anyone.
We will win 1 that we would barely lose (eagles or chiefs )
We will lose 1 that we shouldn’t ( saints , raiders , giants )
Injuries will cost us a gane (it’s like that for most teams )
I’m predicting 11-6
If they sweep the bengals that final game against ravens will be for division 100%
I think there was a mistake with the Commanders because you put the Giants again instead of the Commanders
Yeah, I put my typo disclaimer in the pinned comment
13-14 wins
The probable losses are Philly, Chiefs, and splitting with Baltimore and Pittsburgh--the Steelers will likely suck this year but me must respect them
Dak plays in the NFC East, not the AFC East but thanks for the honest predictions. GO BROWNIES!!!
Browns kicking game I thought was the best into the injuries
We aren’t taking a W in both at Denver and At Piss . We always lose at Denver and at Pitt. Split is likely out of those 2 …..at Piss will be more important obviously.
Good video but your editor has some work to do
How so?
What are you talking about? This video is fantastic. Go hate somewhere else. I bet you can’t do anything any better.
I can respect the breakdown as a Ravens fan. I don't think they are going to beat pittsburgh twice. Ravens will win both and you'll loose to the cowboys week 1 too.
Well at least we can both agree on our hate for pissburg🤝
@@optimisticfanclub 🤝
I’d say they’ll win 2 more games 13-4 and that’s leads them into great playoff seeding and we finally get our first superbowl appearance of forever and we will win it 🎉🧡🐶🤎
Born a Browns fan
But I'm a Chargers fan too.
🤔 Who's gonna win?
We have a two-time coach of the year and he's improving every year
Such a terrible award.. he hasn't even won a playoff game
@@dougkagey535 he did win a playoff game ? He won against the Steelers when the brown got shafted by the refs on a helmet to helmet on the 1 yard line.
Openers are always a coin flip. I give the edge to Dallas simply because the rust on Deshaun. I could realistically see them start 0-2.
I have them at 10-7 and a wild card w/ losses: DAL, Jax, Phi, BAL, Pit, KC, and Bal.
Especially interceptions
Tough road ahead this season.Below 500 8-9
The Great Dan Marino he never won a Super Bowl
When DeShawn Sean throws an interception for sure don't try to Sean to tackle any player
When the Browns increase their opponents turnover rate we're going to see unexpected wins
I’m telling ya. Everyone keeps sleeping on the Browns. That’s all right, this roster could potentially shake the world wide awake.
I think they’ll win these early season games as you predict but you’re too bullish on the offense. Dial those scoring expectations back by a full touchdown per game.
As tough as this schedule is they have already beat most these teams even KC , Cinci has a new owner(The Browns), Baltimore knows what we're about, and Philly will get plucked. I have my Browns season at the end 13-4 because they lose to some weak teams and beat the ones they're supposed to lose to Go Browns!!!
love to hear it! thanks for watching
Go Browns!!!
No one actually realizes what the browns are doing its scary bro 2025 browns bowl
I don't think 12-5 will win you the AFC North. I think all 4 teams in the division will get at least 10 wins. Pit: 10-7 Cin:12-5 Bal: 12-5 Cle: 13-4. Cleveland wins division. Bal, Cin, Pit all still make the playoffs via wild card. Cle beats Buf in AFC championship. Cle beats Det for 1st Suberbowl trophy. Watson wins come back player of the year. Garrett takes his 2nd DPOY award.
12-5 can win it, and I think both Cleveland and Baltimore can have that record with a tie breaker
The only way Cleveland finishes above the Bengals and Ravens is if both Lamar and Burrow get injured. Ain't no way y'all winning the division otherwise.
Jameis is the answer
Made a mistake on the commanders game, you put giants.
Week 11 DeSean is done for the year
Not with Ken Dorsey running offense expect less runs more pass
I feel like they could go 13-4 because I feel like they could beat the chargers if they are fully healthy
Hey can you give me the lotto numbers while you're at it😮
Apparently our defense will suddenly let anyone with a half way competent offense score 30 on us. Apparently Watson(who’s shown to be able to keep the ball out of opponents hands) will not be able to close out games against good teams. The chargers have no one to throw the ball to and have 2 nobodies at rb. The Chiefs have no one to throw the ball to besides an old Kelce. Philly and the ravens I’ll give you but seriously dude 10 weeks to knock off rust for Watson who wasn’t even rusty last season is ridiculous
Also the dolphins are not good, they have no Oline to match our dline. Tua can’t handle pressure or cold. They have no advantage over us because their team won’t be able to get in place in 2 seconds before we get to Tua seriously man you browns pages all suck lmao no analysis all feelings dressed up in football terminology
wow, that's quite the analysis you shared - so the browns are going undefeated? and if you were paying attention, you would have heard me say the dolphins advantage comes with crossing routes, deep overs etc with Waddle and Tyreek Hill. Denzel Ward is the only DB on the Browns with the speed to match.
Also, google the 49ers the year before and the year after hiring Jim Harbaugh. Look at who their receivers were. The Chiefs have Pat Mahomes, they also have a very good defense and a great run game.
And what I'm saying about rust is applied to consistency and hitting the lay ups. Watson was not consistent until the second half of the Baltimore game. He still had flashes of exceptional playmaking and accuracy, but he struggled with the easy stuff. Now he's coming off of surgery from his throwing shoulder.
I'd watch more of my videos before you say the page sucks, I was the only one who called this team doing as well as they did and there is a catalogue of videos to prove it
@@optimisticfanclub not undefeated. Like I said I’m not even mad that you have us losing to a team like Philly or Baltimore it’s the way you say we lose. I have us the favorite in every matchup due to the strength of this defense and the new offense that centers Watsons skill set. 14-3 is my record prediction. The issue comes in when you basically say good team = browns loss and the only good teams we beat are in division, so in your mind we’re frauds.
The defenses road issues mostly stemmed from the offensive turnovers more than them being bad on the road. There were some games like SEA and LAR that we absolutely threw away but again turnovers in those didn’t help the defense whatsoever.
As far as Watson, he did good in an archaic offense that didn’t move to his skill set. We had him playing in someone completely foreign to how he played in college and in Houston of course he wouldn’t look that good but he somehow made it work when it mattered that’s not a rust problem that was a fit problem and they addressed that this offseason
Kenny Pickett was historically bad, and Mason Rudolph isn't much better. Wilson was far more productive last season than either of them. I don't see how Pittsburgh gets swept by Cleveland. Mike Tomlin knows how to win a division game.
The Browns beat Pittsburgh with DTR at QB.
@@bigredracingdog466What happened when both teams was at their healthiest?
@@WVU.STEELERS.CELTICS Well, The Browns weren't at their healthiest. The Browns had lost Pro Bowl OT Jack Conklin the week prior and lost Nick Chubb in that game. The Steelers beat the Browns 26-22 despite being outgained 408 to 255, giving up 20 first downs to just 9, and giving up 198 rushing yards. But the Steelers won the TO battle 4-2 and that was the difference. The D scored 14 of the Steelers' 26 points.
@@bigredracingdog466 Steelers got out gained in pretty much every game. We still win bub, that’s what makes our defense so good is the turnovers. Plus Johnson and Pickens both had hamstring problems during that game, so again that’s why I said at our healthiest cause injuries decimated both our teams last year. You Browns fans funny thinking you gonna sweep us especially now that we have two QBs who outperform Kenny. Watson will be out on IR by week 7 so doubt will even be up against him.
@@WVU.STEELERS.CELTICS Are you counting on Watson being out? And who said anything about a sweep?
He’s just predicting last year to happen again
Not hating I’m a browns fan I hope the ending is different
The problem with Watson, even when healthy last year, just simply didn’t see so many of his wide open options. He either ended up settling for the wrong or more difficult option, or just bailed and ran. Flacco off the couch did well seeing his options and reading the defense. Watson struggles with his options and reading the defense. I’m not optimistic in him making the necessary strides in either area. We only go as far as his progression
13-4
Division #1
AFC Championship