Metal Casting at Home Part 128. Failed Brass Casting. Part 1.

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  • The casting will later be machined to produce the leg ferrule for a Blüthner Style-VII grand piano c.1908 for
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    Following advice from The Home Foundry forum, I will be trying another method next. The issue really is the limited capacity of the electric furnace not giving enough metal to fill the mould as the metal shrinks as it cools.
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  • @roscoepatternworks3471
    @roscoepatternworks3471 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Larger flask at least 1" all around including around the gating. Use a drag runner and an cope ingate. Runner should have an extension beyond the ingate. Use a tapered sprue with a well in the drag. Gating should be sized to the weight being poured. I did a similar part for a steam cylinder looks about the same size. Hope this helps.

  • @toastedone2478
    @toastedone2478 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate the transparency when a pour goes wrong and your attention to quality. I also like the "Autopsy" to find root cause. You are a man of integrity and why I like following your channel. I learn so much from watching you!!!!

  • @barthanes1
    @barthanes1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you took it out of the sand I was thinking, damn that looks good for a failure.

  • @Smallathe
    @Smallathe ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating project and a very cool autopsy and analysis!

  • @thefixerman1
    @thefixerman1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still thoroughly enjoying your channel....I've followed since the earliest day's and to the present. It was your steam projects and channel that got me started and the need for buying a lathe and milling machine. First project was making your steam engine and have now progressed to other projects. Thankyou again for sharing your skills with us and producing the excellent videos. Long may they continue to teach us....simply Brilliant!

  • @rickoshea8138
    @rickoshea8138 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blessed with skill, patience; and knees of steel.

  • @headstocktailstock
    @headstocktailstock ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I subscribe & enjoy following your posts David ,casting alloy is one thing but brass is a different ball game it's a dirty metal I used to cast a lot of brass a lot of years ago, still do when required, keep up the good work
    Graham.

  • @gth042
    @gth042 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope someone sends you a second furnace to review -- and an ultrasonic parts cleaner to help remove those cores. More importantly, thank you for posting. I enjoy watching you pursue a fun hobby. Best of luck!

  • @davidmilway7886
    @davidmilway7886 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had the same issue with casting cylinder blocks they look good on the outside but when you start machining voids show up just where you want the steam passages. I ended up with a gate just smaller than the steam chest face. Took 3 or 4 goes to get 1 cylinder which was good. Keep up the good work.

  • @RonaldWalters2010
    @RonaldWalters2010 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative as usual.

  • @GrandadIsAnOldMan
    @GrandadIsAnOldMan ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating to read all the comments, plenty of support and suggestions 👍

  • @CraigLYoung
    @CraigLYoung ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @BrianEltherington
    @BrianEltherington ปีที่แล้ว

    Art revealed as science for all to understand. Thank you! Larger basin?

  • @CharlieMoDank14
    @CharlieMoDank14 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you

  • @coupdegenie51
    @coupdegenie51 ปีที่แล้ว

    What talent, well done! With such dexterity in sand casting, has lost wax casting never tempted you?

    • @myfordboy
      @myfordboy  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have done lost PLA with sucess but I prefer sand casting, not so messy!

  • @tobhomott
    @tobhomott ปีที่แล้ว

    Some good suggestions for a fix coming in on the forums... You'll get that sucker next time!

  • @BruceRobinson-tz8cj
    @BruceRobinson-tz8cj ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating - only by trial and error is progress realised.

  • @johnrutzen1861
    @johnrutzen1861 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think they are pretty good for a failure! I would have just filled the holes. On the subject of copper alloy casting though, I've done some and there were voids, I had to line cylinders I made. I read in a very old Model Engineer that the addition on phosphorous is very effective in de-gassing. The easiest and cheapest way to do it is to add some phosphorous containing brazing alloy [used for refrigeration copper joining without flux]. This can be bought very cheaply by the kilo on ebay. You don't need much apparently.

    • @myfordboy
      @myfordboy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good tip. I don't think filling would be acceptable for these parts on a top quality grand piano. Since the video I have successfully made another with a different pattern and gating design. Look out for part 2!

  • @realmetallurgist8493
    @realmetallurgist8493 ปีที่แล้ว

    That looks like simple solidification shrinkage. That little sprue will freeze off before the part itself, and won't be able to feed the casting. You need a riser.

    • @myfordboy
      @myfordboy  ปีที่แล้ว

      I did not think there was going to be enough metal in the electric furnace for a extended feeder. I have since mad a sucesful casting though using one. look out for part 2 of this project.

  • @ronporteous1411
    @ronporteous1411 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've noticed in your previous casting projects you usually always place canisters of sand sprue on the pouring holes to increase the amount of molten metal input (loading) to prevent casting voids. Which is something I've decided to include in my own projects. But you did not on this project which I found curious.

    • @myfordboy
      @myfordboy  ปีที่แล้ว

      I did not think there was going to be enough metal in the electric furnace for a extended feeder. I have since mad a sucesful casting though using one. look out for part 2 of this project.

  • @annarboriter
    @annarboriter ปีที่แล้ว

    As much an art as a trade

  • @henrikstenlund5385
    @henrikstenlund5385 ปีที่แล้ว

    To me it would seem that there is no riser and that will cause some issues. Thanks for this

  • @vgofron
    @vgofron ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you consider soldering/brazing the cavity? There are some brass-like alloys used for this, which should be almost invisible after the repair.

    • @myfordboy
      @myfordboy  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As this going to be highly polished part on a grand piano I don't think that would be acceptable.!

  • @dennissheridan1550
    @dennissheridan1550 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I learned metal casting in high school we always put a vent at the opposite end from the sprue that way trapped gases couldn't cause voids. I am wondering why you don't use one in your molds?

    • @myfordboy
      @myfordboy  ปีที่แล้ว

      I often do use a riser on larger castings.

  • @532bluepeter1
    @532bluepeter1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you like some chilli sauce with the doner brass?

  • @williamokrasinski9840
    @williamokrasinski9840 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah, brass melt. Pure or mixed brass & bronze ? Melt temp Cº or Fº ?

    • @myfordboy
      @myfordboy  ปีที่แล้ว

      1100C pouring temperature. All the metal was from brass piano wheels.

  • @mrglasecki
    @mrglasecki ปีที่แล้ว

    Riser above the gate needed to be higher

    • @myfordboy
      @myfordboy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know this but metal volume is limited with this furnace. I have now sucessfully cast the part with a different set up.

    • @mrglasecki
      @mrglasecki ปีที่แล้ว

      @@myfordboy ahh, yeah that does it every time 🤣

  • @BeachsideHank
    @BeachsideHank ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not chuck the workpiece up and saw it with that great powered hacksaw you made years ago, that thing is so sexy. ☺

  • @splinky99
    @splinky99 ปีที่แล้ว

    Silicon bronze is so so so much better to cast! Even if the brass is free, it’s not worth casting if you ask me! It’s not worth the breathing in of the zinc smoke and all the porosity!

  • @chadgdry3938
    @chadgdry3938 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:20 alloy adventurism

  • @moretimethanmoney8611
    @moretimethanmoney8611 ปีที่แล้ว

    If only there were a way to preheat the mold.

  • @fefifofob
    @fefifofob ปีที่แล้ว

    Find the story about Edison and the copper cube.

  • @bake162
    @bake162 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’d like to know why you work off the floor rather than a bench or table? Seems uncomfortable but traditional.

    • @CraigLYoung
      @CraigLYoung ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't worry he has knee pads built into his overhauls so it's not as uncomfortable as you would think.