That was so painful to listen to because as soon as he said "Rachel didn't have a webcam" you just knew it was all a scam. You think at some point he surely will realise what's happening, but he keeps getting deeper and deeper into this mad story.
MrBallen's the best storyteller on TH-cam. I can't believe that I have been continuously binging on all his videos for the past 3 days and still craving for more. Lots of respect to you.
Wdym....he pretty much asked/made his friend take a knife stab him in the gut lol cuz he was madly in gay love with him...like some twisted gay soap oprah
I was completely dumbfounded when I reached the "twist" of this case. Holy God that takes dedication to another level. John was completely mental and manipulative while Mark was really gullible. I hope he learned his lesson after this.
I’ve heard about a case or two where someone hires a hitman to kill him, as in suicide by hitman… one case he went broke and wanted his family to get the insurance money.
@@GenetMJF the hitman was like 10k whereas his life insurance payout was in the hundreds of thousands, close to a million if I remember correctly. When I say broke, I mean that basically he knew that he wasn’t going to continue to be able to afford to take care of his family, even if he was able to scrape together 10k he knew that wasn’t enough to sustain his family for very long and I guess he thought it would be better for them if he spent the remainder of his money on this plot to kiII himself so they could get the insurance payout.
@xbox gamer nope, after the guy was found murdered in his car, the police discovered the real plot when they tracked down the “hitman” who confessed, which voided the policy. I tried finding the case just now, I watched a show on the ID channel about it maybe 5 or so years back, but when I searched all I could find was a very similar case that happened a year ago with a guy from South Carolina arranging his own murder so his son could collect the insurance.
This kind of reminds me of 'One Of Us Is Lying' by Karen M. McManus (if you've read the book you'll know what I mean. For those who haven't, read it and you'll understand).
I've listened to maybe over a hundred of stories in this channel, but this one is one of the most mind blowing. I never saw it coming, feels like a M. Night Shyamalan movie
Nah, It doesnt hold a candle to #talhotblond. That is the creepiest movie I've ever seen. Well documentary. Maybe cause it was the first of it's kinda, airing in 2009 or around there. But it's along the same lines as this story here. They even defined the infatuation because it was unlike any psychologists had seen before. Because of the internet. It escapes me atm, but if I remember it I'll edit this post. But if you haven't seen it already....I'd definitely go for it. You won't be disappointed.
The best part is how they have restraining orders against each other but without their approval lol. The government really said "ok just stay away from each other so we dont have to deal with this again"
Just watched 2 years late, and wow-this is probably the craziest story I have watched on this channel so far. The ending was a lot more surprising than that of many horror films. Reality dismantled fiction with this one. The whole thing was unbelievable.
Another late watcher here, I knew Janet was john as soon as I heard Janet knew what mark was wearing BUT I didnt expect john be all 180 people in the room
naaa he never intended to die or even get hurt ,.. remember abort code 6969 ,..he just got surprised before he could say 6969 to mark. "I'll include my solve log below" im 4 and 1 so far MY SOLVE/ OR FAIL NARRATIVE THOUGHT PROCESS. 6:05 RED FLAG possible catfishing 6:53 more convinced of catfishing ,..ol i don't he a cam line. 8:02 new arrival Kevin is actually the catfishing person? 9:24 convinced kevin is Rachel ,.. trying to lure the boy mark to a place to kill him perhaps. 12:31 kevin returns,.. the give away ,.. he is trying to hard to make a difference in the way the text he writes is written,.. people faking multiple accounts often do this ,.. all capos for 1 identity ,.. all pink in this case ,.. this is so they can keep them organized intheir own mind as much as it is to mislead others. 2 people may type that way but most don't ,.. 3 in a row is an action much like anything else in life my thinking is always 1st-time coincidence, second-time happenstance, the third time a clear tell of intent. 13:42 kevin aka mystery woman ,.. sets mark up to kill people claiming it is part of the test for him to be an agent ,.. I call solve at 13:42 16:12 kevin knew because mark was on the chat all day ,what he wore, where he was etc ,.. mark didn't know this "possible kevin was ghosting lurking in chat without being seen... or john is actually the catfisher and has played him all along "he's the only one that could have known all the daily onmark if the catfisher wasn't gleaning the info from ghosting. 17:36 abort code 6969 ,.. possible kevin viewed this as a prank ,.. the code allowing him to stop it from actually happening " hmm perhaps his way to end the sick game and he lost connection or couldn't complete the 6969 part so the attempted murder continued? REVEAL yes it was John "I'm guessing marks attack surprised him before he could orchestrate the 69 69 abort lie. lol p.s. I'll take a half credit on this one,.. i was surprised it was actually john but I had listed as a possibility in my process. dayum now I'm 4-1-1
@@MYshamanEYE he literally set the whole thing up he knew at every moment what was gonna happen. As soon as mark asked him to go to the alley he knew what it was. If he didn’t wanna get hurt he would have said the code then. For me the only way your logic would make sense is if he wanted to literally get it down to the last second while mark pulls his knife he says the code and it turns marks world upside down. The whole thing would literally be for that moment and to see the look on marks face bewildered asf.
That is downright some matrix stuff, how just how do INCITE your own murder. This sounds like there was john from another universe trying to kill his past self but was arrested by the future government of trying to end his own life. 😭😭
Is it wierd that I find it toxic but dare I say lovable? Like I find it cute(obviously still completely messed up)............i think I need to see a therapist😆🤧
I've heard of some bizarre cases but I genuinely had no clue where this was going. The situation went from sad to weird to confusing do downright hilarious. Aside from the mental trauma it seems both sides got a slap on the wrist and the judges were like "IDEK man, just stop talking to each other and I swear if you're on chat rooms again..."
Would have loved to have a window into the mind of the judge in this case....people do some strange stuff. After what I have seen done online I'm scared of humanity.
It's more likely because a) they were minors and b) the British justice system is EXTREMELY lenient in comparison to other countries like the US. I live in England and a life sentence here is I think 25 years and you can be let out after about 12 years with good behaviour.
This story kind of reminds me of that detective who would call fast food chains and tell them their pretty teenage employees were being investigated and he needed the managers of that restaurant to detain her and read her rights, which then he would tell them to strip search them for him then he would make them do cavity searches on these girls, and so on and so on. Of course, he wasn't a real detective, he was just a pervert with a power complex making prank calls and getting off on making people sexually assault teenage girls for him. Even got turned into a movie. Not sure if Ballen's ever covered this story, but if you're reading this, Sir, and you haven't then I'd recommend looking into the details for another video. Just look up Donna Jean Summers, Louise Obgorn or Walter Nix. Or look up the movie Compliance. Story's freakin' crazy.
There was the movie and also an episode of Law and Order: SVU that used that as part of the plot of an episode. Robin Williams guest starred as the guy who made the call. I remember when the story was in the news, though. I'd rather lose my job than strip for a manager who says the cop on the phone said to. I probably wouldn't have been as assertive as a teen, though...
@@hprotz6600 I forgot about that episode! Which is odd because Robin Williams' darker roles are so memorable. One Hour Photo gave me chills. Yeah, it's unbelievable this was able to happen. I mean, as a teen, what can you do? The manager wouldn't let you leave if they are thinking police are coming for you, so I get that they probably knew they were in a hopeless situation. What gets me is how did the managers fall for this? What cop would tell people over a phone to do their job for them, with no regards to the girl being read her rights? I mean, it didn't seem odd to them that the cop or any other officer wasn't there in person to arrest her or even show them an ID to confirm? I can be naive but even I know a citizen can't just be strip searched without being read their rights. Maybe the manager was afraid of getting in trouble too. Or perhaps it could've just been a power thing. The "cop" gave them a sense of really being in charge of someone and they took it. That's even more disturbing.
@@chelseabellamy6993I remembered the episode because I recently rewatched it, tbh. And One Hour Photo was amazing and creepy. It's because most people will defer to authority over their own good sense too often. The Milgram Experiment, Stanford Prison Experiment, and Third Wave Experiment all show that. And those are the relatively controlled examples. People in Nazi Germany went along with that to avoid repercussions, same during American slavery and the Civil Rights movement. Especially if you've been conditioned to respect/obey authority or that those in authority have more knowledge than you do, you're likely to go along with things. It doesn't help that lots of people don't know their own rights, so wouldn't know *to* argue against what happened with those teens...The human mind is both amazing and terrifying in what it can be convinced of. (ETA: The guy calling the restaurants wasn't actually a cop, just impersonated one...)
Imagine being duped like this. Imagine having the time and energy to be 180 different people all logged in nearly all the time. I can barely keep a conversation going with 1 person lol.
Had a similar dealo chick Played as herself first with a false identity, a non existent gay older brother, her own sister, sometimes conversations would be on the computer where she played as her older non existent brother while texting me with a separate conversation and just wait...she did this to many men at the same time.... I was mind blown
@L This story is kinda funny but at the same time super sad I think the ending was bittersweet also imagine what their parents reaction was when they got told the story? O_0
He does click-bait, he doesn't LIE to us like a lot of other TH-camrs, click-baiting is just a title or thumbnail that intrigues your interest and gets you to click. But it's when people don't present what they offered that is annoying.
I mean he is look at his Thumbnails With red Arrows and dumb reaction faces he doesn't need them this is not a Fornite video it seems weird and pointless
Even though mark was manipulated, I still think it’s weird he got off that easy. He was literally prepared to kill a friend because a random person on the Internet told him to, seems kinda dangerous.
Well yes, but also a child that's been groomed for sex would need to get a sentence in your theory... So no, not really... "John" should've gotten a worse sentence for taking advantage, then coarsing for murder, then attempted murder... Which should've landed him with a good few years behind bars..
Haha what you've failed to see, is unless you've met or video chatted with a person on multiple occasions. Its possible All of them were just 1 stalker lol
Yeah, It’s been years since I have really participated in a chatroom but I grew up in sort of the golden era of dial up and AOL and chatrooms. They were very exciting back in the day and like most kids who were 10 in the year 2000 a big part of adolescence was going online and messing around in chatrooms… It really was the wild west back then. probably around 2003ish we went from dial up to a dedicated connection where I could be online whenever I wanted without disturbing the phone line. I was young and obviously more naive but it does not take a rocket scientist to quickly figure out that people lie in chatrooms and send fake pictures, never assume anyone is who they say they are. I actually ended up getting in quite a bit of trouble for some “hacking” type of shenanigans I was involved in. I kind of joined this collective of other young people interested in hacking and I was sort of known for being pretty good at “social engineering” where you basically trick humans to gain access into things. It’s just another form of hacking… you can spend a weekend trying to crack a password using code and various programs or you could just straight up try to trick the target into giving it to you. So I made this fake AIM Account called Eric Wilmaz AIM - a completely fake name and idk why I remember it damn near 20 years later. I would send a message to the target and also there was a a command to insert these really official looking lines into messages… it was like shift + s or something but it would insert a big bold line in the body of the message. I would make it sound more professional but I would send a message along the lines of hey at 8:47:22 PM we detected a login from your account in Laredo Texas 000.000.0.0 (fake IP address) please confirm you are the correct user. please type your password case exact as you entered it to log in. I swear I am not exaggerating when I say this had like a 40% success rate. I would astounded how well this worked and I will admit I was a little asshole but I also would log into peoples accounts and boot them off, then change their password but I never really did anything malicious… maybe I might send a message to someone on their buddy list and say like haha I stole your friends account… often the owner of the account would message me through an alt screename or a friends account and ask me to please give them their account back and I would proceed to share with them what I changed the password to, give them a little lecture about security and be on my way allowing them to take the account back. I say all that to say that some people (especially kids) were EXTREMELY GULLIBLE especially in the earlier days of the internet… I worked with a guy who shared a story about how a few years ago he thought he was talking to a girl and proceeds to send a dick pic with his face included. This “girl” who was actually some scammer type he was talking too proceeds to blackmail him threatening to send the picture to all his facebook friends… he actually complied with the demands and sent them $250… of course a day later they turn around and demand more money and he ends up refusing the demands and they went and sent this picture to like 50+ facebook connections he had. This happened in 2015 to a guy in his mid 20’s lol.
Can someone explain tho? I don't really understand the ending...So the person who got arrested was the person that got stabbed? Didn't Mark get any jail time for stabbing someone? I'm sooo confused by this story, please help me understand lol
John really should have worn a bullet proof vest that could deflect a knife blade. And when Mark realized he couldn't kill him, John would say "You've completed the test! You weren't supposed to kill me. But Rachel is a double-agent and we set up a trap to catch her. It also confirmed your ability to carry out missions that may require terminating someone." From there, John could keep up the ruse and have Mark go on a multitude of missions.
I don't actually think bullet proof vests could stop knives. I don't know what they're made out of now but from what I remember a knife could stab through. The vest only slows and weakens the impact of the bullet so it doesn't pierce your skin.
@@onewaystaircase they can but the plates are designed to break apart so depending on the force am the knife it may not work but we had some really dumb privates in the army that tried to stab each other so I've seen it work
@@onewaystaircase they work pretty well on knives. even the ones without plates. The design of bulletproof vests is to stop something from penetrating all the way through them, if a bullet cant penetrate all the way through, a knife blade from a stab will also have ALOT of trouble. you would still be hurt some from the force of the stab, but you wouldn't be cut. but there is also such a thing as stab-proof vests.
I guess he just mainly faked the accounts in their "private chat room". Rachel, Kevin and the agent. Everything else would not be possible to execute believable.
I actually fully expected rachel and kevin and janet to all be one person from the beginning, but I didn't know it was all john, that was such a good plot twist
@@zeearts9484 3 months?! WAAAAAY more than that. And Mark shouldn't get any time at all. His only crime was being stupid. John was full out gaslighting the dude. Since the only person he hurt was the guy gaslighting and manipulating him he should have gotten off while John got attempted murder.
Wow, that’s wild…. I have to say listening to your stories is reminding me to teach my kids about common sense and discernment, way more often than I already do. Way too many weirdos out there that want to take advantage!!!
A 14-year old that can manipulate a 16-year into murdering him and has the ability to run a chat room with over a hundred accounts, create fantastical stories, keeps it all straight AND doesn't abort the murder plot is beyond frightening to me. What kind of adult is John going to become? Hopefully he's under some sort of psychiatric supervision/monitoring.
a fantastical story? did we hear the same story about an undercover adult secret agent who offered a 14 year old to be his girlfriend and an underwater safe which can only be opened by a random 16 year old
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"I want to meet up and give you a hug? I'm so sorry your embarrassed" hmm that sounds right coming from someone just "released" from being held hostage...
Court system justice is dumb. It’s more important to find culpability and punish than to actually help the involved parties. In this case one kid got attempted murder charge on his record for wanting to feel loved (I understand he almost killed someone who wanted to die) and the mastermind got off with less than a slap on the wrist. In my opinion this did not deserve any charges on either party but instead years of psychiatric therapy.
I actually, truely work for a bank in London. Your family member that youve never met was extremely rich and recently passed away. He left you 25 million dollars, but the only way to access this account and get you your inheritance you must pay the $5,000 lawyer fee. Please western union me the money right away. If we don't act fast the money will be lost forever and siezed by the government.
This might genuinely be the weirdest story I've ever heard. This doesn't sound just like a movie, it sounds like one of those dime-a-dozen, cheesy high school animes where you're constantly rolling your eyes at how implausible the whole plot is.
Yes. It definitely doesn't work for a movie. Nobody will believe that it's realistic. Makes me wonder how movies can actually be way more closer to real life than I think...
It’s not dimes a dozen at all. Quite the literal opposite in every possible conception point. Not sure if I’ve ever heard a story as nuts as this. From the standpoint this was all one person
@@itiswhatitis3198 haha. Very funny and possibly accurate. I say “possibly” because I stopped watching the season after Sasha killed herself. It was the protracted pathetic shootout. They forgot they weren’t supposed to have bullets. 😂😂
@@Fishii108 It was John. He had the 189 accounts and created the chat room. It's an older story, like early 2000s. I remember hearing that John was suicidal or telling the police that's why he did it. Really bizarre story and never actually released the names I don't think.
Reminds of the time I was moderating a forum, back in the days. There were two members (Mephisto and Faust) who hated each other. They were always looking each other up to throw insults at one another. They were both quite entertaining with their insults: comedy gold. At the beginning. After some time the funny insults became darker, spiraling out of control into actual death threats. So with Faust being the more reasonable one, we moderators decided to ban Mephisto from the forum. Years later Faust - you guessed it - admitted that he and Mephisto were the same person. We had a good laugh about it but I remember that he said something that I found weird at the time. He said that, at one point, when Mephisto was insulting Faust to the bone, it made him/Faust feel angry. That feeling was too weird even for him and that was the reason he started Mephisto to threaten his life, so we had no choice than to ban the latter. Apparently, taking on different personas messes with your brain. At one point they become (almost) real in your head. I believe that's what happened to John.
this was the first time i had to laugh at one of your episodes. "...which no one was ever been charged with"... thanks a lot for weeks of content to fill my boring workshifts. and best of luck to you and your family!
"because janet doesn't exist..." Huh no surprise there "...and neither did rachel" *wait what???* "...and neither did kevin" *Oh no i don't like thi---* "it was all john!!!" *Holy fucking christ that took a complete 180 in the worst way possible*
@A Z yeah i kind of assumed rachel was still a real person but is a scammer or abducter or something. I didnt expect LITERALLY EVERYONE IN THE CHAT ROOM was john LOL
And the fact that something very similar to this happened to me before. It didnt end up in murder but bruh i cant believe i was dumb enough to believe that.
@@dazbeal5438 weirdly enough i had a friend who tried to commit suicide.... he was sent to jail for murder charges.... what is weird is that i found 15 corpses of children in his backyard!
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Mark's gullibility is hilarious enough, but you'd think surely by the time they got to Janet he would realize something was up. 'I'm a secret agent and you'll be one of us and **I'll be your girlfriend** if you complete this mission''.
When I was young, my dad and I went on a chatroom together so he could show me how creepy and gross people were. He said "are these the type of people you want showing up at our house?" I said "No," and that's how I never trusted people online.
Your dad’s the real man!! Idk why my parents would never do that even if it makes me learn a valuable lesson, and they just expect me to go out there online and explore on my own hoping that I’m smart enough to not find any sort of trouble while being there...
@@Archerdon88 He also taught me me to defend myself with any item, mainly a sharp pencil because I was allowed to carry one around everywhere. He said he didn't want me being those dumb girls that die in the beginning of horror movies. 😂
@@mrtheonexx8749 Internet safety is so extremely important nowadays. I think it's as important as learning not to take anything or go anywhere with strangers.
Dude, I know right. HOW? I’m like thinking,The amount of time that must have taken. That is actually sick. He could have actually done a lot of good with the time he spent doing that.
If someone did write something like this, people will be quick to call plot hole or question how far people are willing to suspend their disbelief to accept that people are this gullible.
16 year olds: "Alright, I can drive! I'll be able to vote in two years!" Also 16 year olds: "I had to kill my friend because a secret agent said his body was the key to an underwater safe..."
@@damiendarko9411 you can have sex at 16 though.. so thats an upside. And not giving lunatics (like those in these posts) guns is definitely another upside.
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whos that there hiding behind that there safe 15:15 is it Michael?
Good job!! You found the secret!
Even now I still can’t see it 😂
Edit: o wait, I think the time stamp was messed up on the premiere. I can see it now
You beat me by a minute darn it
@@MrBallen Man that was a tough one! keep up the good work man love your videos!
I was your 2nd like
This dude created his own stage, characters, and drama. Even had the guts to kill himself off. Damn, that's commitment and downright scary.
I wanted to like this but it had 69 likes and I couldn't ruin it
Yeah. Reminds me of that South Park episode, _"1%",_ where Cartman shoots and "kills" Polly Prissypants.
14 years old at that!!
*Morgan Freeman's voice*
- "John went on to become a successful filmmaker under his new name, Quentin Tarantino"
@@gilgamesh5796 Lol I think that comment just made my whole day... thanks
Imagine being in charge of nearly 200 chat accounts and trying to keep them straight. That’s such an insane amount of work. Damn. Dude was committed.
And still have good grades at school 💀
Lol guy needs 190 personalities to make 1 friend who he then tells to kill him.
people on twitch do it all the time
@@TheEpicSpire moral of the day: do not use twitch
I mean, the dude literally incited his own murder... you can get more commited than that
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So true bro . He'd be the best Scary story teller EVER .
Yea right I'd have no ammo left by the time the sun came up 😂 unloading in any direction a noise came from 💯% !!
SO many good stories
YES!!!
And sing our campfire song
That was so painful to listen to because as soon as he said "Rachel didn't have a webcam" you just knew it was all a scam. You think at some point he surely will realise what's happening, but he keeps getting deeper and deeper into this mad story.
Yeah, especially since (fake) Rachel had a job at a gym so she could have definitely afforded a web cam.
I guess catfishing wasn't as common knowledge back then
Not really. Some ppl aren't confident enough to show themselves but are real ppl.
Thi was 2003. Webcams weren't as common or cheap as today...
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So before Mark ever joined the chatroom John had 189 fake accounts and was having fake conversations between them...thats already disturbing.
I would like it but 69
@@Cubetuber nice
I think there were some other real people in it just a lot of them were fake
@@clt6592 that's sounds like you always do that. Creepy
@@SoMooLand1nine7 😂😂😂
John really said, ‘written, produced, and directed by John’
AND acting in as he played himself +
They actually DID make a movie loosely based on this court case -> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uwantme2killhim%3F
hahahaha
@Aya M he’s the main antagonist, protagonist, and the side character
🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Holy crap, the same thing happened to me!" - Mark, after watching this video.
I really laughed out loud to this 😂
@@genevieveclements7487 same XDD
Ahahahaha 🤣😂😉
Lol
😂😂😂🤣
Personally, I think the concept of the court deciding you’re too stupid to use the internet without supervision is hilarious 😂
This is going to get worse with Ai now, all sorts of crazy manipulation will happen
Welcome to the future lol
MrBallen's the best storyteller on TH-cam. I can't believe that I have been continuously binging on all his videos for the past 3 days and still craving for more. Lots of respect to you.
SAME!
Thank you so much!!!
In total agreement! He is a born story-teller!
@@MrBallen love the stories! Come home from work and check for new content almost everyday.
I agree
Can’t imagine being stabbed by a friend just to hear
“I’m sorry bro”
it's what my friends would say
Just another day
Wdym....he pretty much asked/made his friend take a knife stab him in the gut lol cuz he was madly in gay love with him...like some twisted gay soap oprah
He knew it was coming, he told him exactly where and when to do. He probably came when he said he loved him before stabbing him
By your crush*
Imagine the Jury listening to all this and trying to understand what actually happened.
They'd be constantly waiting to hear "And this is when Mark realized none of this was real.." and never hearing it
They would have understood in first attempt if mrballen was the narrator
Now imagine one of the jurors is named Janet.
I'm still unclear of what happened 🤣🤣
Hahahahaha
I was completely dumbfounded when I reached the "twist" of this case. Holy God that takes dedication to another level. John was completely mental and manipulative while Mark was really gullible. I hope he learned his lesson after this.
As soon as I heard Janet knew what mark was was wearing I knew it was john, I didnt expect John to be all 180people in the room though, thats crazy
Yeah the dentist appointment thing too. Why would anybody else know he was having a dentist appointment the next day
I gotta give him an "A" for effort! That is the most creative way I have ever heard of somebody trying to commit suicide.
I’ve heard about a case or two where someone hires a hitman to kill him, as in suicide by hitman… one case he went broke and wanted his family to get the insurance money.
@@DosYeobos but he still had money to hire a hitman on himself 🤔
@@GenetMJF the hitman was like 10k whereas his life insurance payout was in the hundreds of thousands, close to a million if I remember correctly. When I say broke, I mean that basically he knew that he wasn’t going to continue to be able to afford to take care of his family, even if he was able to scrape together 10k he knew that wasn’t enough to sustain his family for very long and I guess he thought it would be better for them if he spent the remainder of his money on this plot to kiII himself so they could get the insurance payout.
@xbox gamer nope, after the guy was found murdered in his car, the police discovered the real plot when they tracked down the “hitman” who confessed, which voided the policy. I tried finding the case just now, I watched a show on the ID channel about it maybe 5 or so years back, but when I searched all I could find was a very similar case that happened a year ago with a guy from South Carolina arranging his own murder so his son could collect the insurance.
This kind of reminds me of 'One Of Us Is Lying' by Karen M. McManus (if you've read the book you'll know what I mean. For those who haven't, read it and you'll understand).
I've listened to maybe over a hundred of stories in this channel, but this one is one of the most mind blowing. I never saw it coming, feels like a M. Night Shyamalan movie
Nah, It doesnt hold a candle to #talhotblond. That is the creepiest movie I've ever seen. Well documentary. Maybe cause it was the first of it's kinda, airing in 2009 or around there. But it's along the same lines as this story here. They even defined the infatuation because it was unlike any psychologists had seen before. Because of the internet. It escapes me atm, but if I remember it I'll edit this post. But if you haven't seen it already....I'd definitely go for it. You won't be disappointed.
It’s the ultimate catfish story
Insane AF
FR. This is the biggest plot twist I've seen in years.
Yeah this is a legit unexpected twist, but if this happened in a movie I'd think it was implausible haha
The best part is how they have restraining orders against each other but without their approval lol. The government really said "ok just stay away from each other so we dont have to deal with this again"
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Just watched 2 years late, and wow-this is probably the craziest story I have watched on this channel so far. The ending was a lot more surprising than that of many horror films. Reality dismantled fiction with this one. The whole thing was unbelievable.
Another late watcher here, I knew Janet was john as soon as I heard Janet knew what mark was wearing BUT I didnt expect john be all 180 people in the room
This should be a movie
@@jackandbanditadventures2122holy hell you yes.
John is the puppet master. His dedication of talking to each of his impersonated characters is unbelievable . Created his own world.
the guy could have potential as a writer.
@@nostalgicbliss5547 or the next Serial Killer!!
@@shannonreaves4722 Unless he kills himself twice.
It's kinda freaky that he's probably still out there, especially as a Brit. Luckily, I avoid anyone from Manchester. Horrible accent.
@@scarletamazon3455 lmao
Suicide by murder. Of himself. Some of the craziest stuff I’ve ever heard.
naaa he never intended to die or even get hurt ,.. remember abort code 6969 ,..he just got surprised before he could say 6969 to mark. "I'll include my solve log below"
im 4 and 1 so far
MY SOLVE/ OR FAIL NARRATIVE THOUGHT PROCESS.
6:05 RED FLAG possible catfishing
6:53 more convinced of catfishing ,..ol i don't he a cam line.
8:02 new arrival Kevin is actually the catfishing person?
9:24 convinced kevin is Rachel ,.. trying to lure the boy mark to a place to kill him perhaps.
12:31 kevin returns,.. the give away ,.. he is trying to hard to make a difference in the way the text he writes is written,.. people faking multiple accounts often do this ,.. all capos for 1 identity ,.. all pink in this case ,.. this is so they can keep them organized intheir own mind as much as it is to mislead others.
2 people may type that way but most don't ,.. 3 in a row is an action
much like anything else in life my thinking is always 1st-time coincidence, second-time happenstance, the third time a clear tell of intent.
13:42 kevin aka mystery woman ,.. sets mark up to kill people claiming it is part of the test for him to be an agent ,.. I call solve at 13:42
16:12 kevin knew because mark was on the chat all day ,what he wore, where he was etc ,.. mark didn't know this "possible kevin was ghosting lurking in chat without being seen... or john is actually the catfisher and has played him all along "he's the only one that could have known all the daily onmark if the catfisher wasn't gleaning the info from ghosting.
17:36 abort code 6969 ,.. possible kevin viewed this as a prank ,.. the code allowing him to stop it from actually happening " hmm perhaps his way to end the sick game and he lost connection or couldn't complete the 6969 part so the attempted murder continued?
REVEAL yes it was John
"I'm guessing marks attack surprised him before he could orchestrate the 69 69 abort lie. lol
p.s. I'll take a half credit on this one,.. i was surprised it was actually john but I had listed as a possibility in my process. dayum now I'm 4-1-1
haha just made a similar comment, agreed on some of the craziest shit I've ever heard. "Inciting your own murder", now that's a fucked up charge.
@@MYshamanEYE he literally set the whole thing up he knew at every moment what was gonna happen. As soon as mark asked him to go to the alley he knew what it was. If he didn’t wanna get hurt he would have said the code then.
For me the only way your logic would make sense is if he wanted to literally get it down to the last second while mark pulls his knife he says the code and it turns marks world upside down. The whole thing would literally be for that moment and to see the look on marks face bewildered asf.
This is, hands down, one of the craziest stories I've ever heard. Humans be scary, y'all.
Teens be stupid yo.
Im waiting 4 aliens to take me. Im done lol
Right ✅
And they can also be unbelievably stupid
“The person is smart, but people are dumb, frantic, panicky, and you know it!
500 years ago, everyone KNEW that earth was the center of universe”
Holy.... wow. I did not expect that twist. My jaw literally dropped
Imagine being the only person ever charged with inciting your own murder
Mah dude John kinda went down a legend
That is downright some matrix stuff, how just how do INCITE your own murder. This sounds like there was john from another universe trying to kill his past self but was arrested by the future government of trying to end his own life. 😭😭
Can he beat goku tho
@@MrTerrorM yes
Pretty C🤍🤍L
The prime definition of a toxic relationship.
also a gay relationship
@LEGENDARYPIZZA11 indeed
But technically they never hurt the other without consent
More like toxic wasteland.
Is it wierd that I find it toxic but dare I say lovable? Like I find it cute(obviously still completely messed up)............i think I need to see a therapist😆🤧
I've heard of some bizarre cases but I genuinely had no clue where this was going. The situation went from sad to weird to confusing do downright hilarious. Aside from the mental trauma it seems both sides got a slap on the wrist and the judges were like "IDEK man, just stop talking to each other and I swear if you're on chat rooms again..."
Would have loved to have a window into the mind of the judge in this case....people do some strange stuff. After what I have seen done online I'm scared of humanity.
It's more likely because a) they were minors and b) the British justice system is EXTREMELY lenient in comparison to other countries like the US. I live in England and a life sentence here is I think 25 years and you can be let out after about 12 years with good behaviour.
😄🤣😅
I'm surprised either one wasn't forced to go into therapy. WTH?
It a movie
This story kind of reminds me of that detective who would call fast food chains and tell them their pretty teenage employees were being investigated and he needed the managers of that restaurant to detain her and read her rights, which then he would tell them to strip search them for him then he would make them do cavity searches on these girls, and so on and so on. Of course, he wasn't a real detective, he was just a pervert with a power complex making prank calls and getting off on making people sexually assault teenage girls for him. Even got turned into a movie. Not sure if Ballen's ever covered this story, but if you're reading this, Sir, and you haven't then I'd recommend looking into the details for another video. Just look up Donna Jean Summers, Louise Obgorn or Walter Nix. Or look up the movie Compliance. Story's freakin' crazy.
The movie is called “Compliance”.
Wtf 😲
There was the movie and also an episode of Law and Order: SVU that used that as part of the plot of an episode. Robin Williams guest starred as the guy who made the call.
I remember when the story was in the news, though. I'd rather lose my job than strip for a manager who says the cop on the phone said to. I probably wouldn't have been as assertive as a teen, though...
@@hprotz6600 I forgot about that episode! Which is odd because Robin Williams' darker roles are so memorable. One Hour Photo gave me chills.
Yeah, it's unbelievable this was able to happen. I mean, as a teen, what can you do? The manager wouldn't let you leave if they are thinking police are coming for you, so I get that they probably knew they were in a hopeless situation. What gets me is how did the managers fall for this? What cop would tell people over a phone to do their job for them, with no regards to the girl being read her rights? I mean, it didn't seem odd to them that the cop or any other officer wasn't there in person to arrest her or even show them an ID to confirm? I can be naive but even I know a citizen can't just be strip searched without being read their rights. Maybe the manager was afraid of getting in trouble too. Or perhaps it could've just been a power thing. The "cop" gave them a sense of really being in charge of someone and they took it. That's even more disturbing.
@@chelseabellamy6993I remembered the episode because I recently rewatched it, tbh. And One Hour Photo was amazing and creepy.
It's because most people will defer to authority over their own good sense too often. The Milgram Experiment, Stanford Prison Experiment, and Third Wave Experiment all show that. And those are the relatively controlled examples. People in Nazi Germany went along with that to avoid repercussions, same during American slavery and the Civil Rights movement.
Especially if you've been conditioned to respect/obey authority or that those in authority have more knowledge than you do, you're likely to go along with things. It doesn't help that lots of people don't know their own rights, so wouldn't know *to* argue against what happened with those teens...The human mind is both amazing and terrifying in what it can be convinced of.
(ETA: The guy calling the restaurants wasn't actually a cop, just impersonated one...)
SPOILER
Imagine joining a huge discord server and everyone's just one guy
a total bummer, lol!
pretty much Facebook and twitter.. except its not "one guy".. its "one mind"
@@flipnap2112 💯
@@flipnap2112 exactly lol
SPOILER WARNING
5 years after the trial.....
Mark: "So when's Janet getting here?"
Everyone else: 🤦
Imagine being duped like this.
Imagine having the time and energy to be 180 different people all logged in nearly all the time.
I can barely keep a conversation going with 1 person lol.
@@ReblQueen yo same
@@ReblQueen...
Had a similar dealo chick Played as herself first with a false identity, a non existent gay older brother, her own sister, sometimes conversations would be on the computer where she played as her older non existent brother while texting me with a separate conversation and just wait...she did this to many men at the same time.... I was mind blown
My like is 666 so I unliked it
I do believe that is the strangest story Ive ever heard in my life.
Crazy... I always google them after. Strange world.
It is totally mad. It’s so confusing.
is this fake?
@@davinarobertson47 No lol the story is on google
@@davinarobertson47 - well, I’m from the U.K. and I’ve never heard this story before.
This was so interesting , the plot twist was amazing lmao got me shocked
John to Mark: "You're killing me!"
Yeah... you told him to...
If he didn't say anything then Mark would know something was fishy. John had to act it out
@L This story is kinda funny but at the same time super sad I think the ending was bittersweet also imagine what their parents reaction was when they got told the story? O_0
@@gamesgames2389 let me guess.. 🤔..
You're between 12 and 20 - am I right?
(just tryna test a theory lol)
@@lizhall4473 Whats the theory?
@@applesource8261 A personal one. 😊
This man is never clickbaiting anyone and I respect
He does click-bait, he doesn't LIE to us like a lot of other TH-camrs, click-baiting is just a title or thumbnail that intrigues your interest and gets you to click. But it's when people don't present what they offered that is annoying.
I mean he is look at his Thumbnails With red Arrows and dumb reaction faces he doesn't need them this is not a Fornite video it seems weird and pointless
"This chatroom KILLS people"
Nobody actually dies
Clickbait confirmed
Even though mark was manipulated, I still think it’s weird he got off that easy. He was literally prepared to kill a friend because a random person on the Internet told him to, seems kinda dangerous.
Yeh i agree, you can not make someone kill another unless they want to do it and clearly he wanted too lol
Kinda?? lol. Dude definitely belongs in a psyche ward.
Well yes, but also a child that's been groomed for sex would need to get a sentence in your theory... So no, not really... "John" should've gotten a worse sentence for taking advantage, then coarsing for murder, then attempted murder... Which should've landed him with a good few years behind bars..
Also impersonating an officer
Every soldier in the military kills for the government, just like mark thought he would kill for the government.
John took the term "one man machine" to a whole new level!! The level of dedication to play 180 characters😳
Suddenly I don't feel so dumb for sending the Nigerian prince all that money
Lmao
😂😂
Lordy...🤣🤣🤣...
😄🤣
The sad thing is there are people who don't get this reference
As someone with over a decade of experience in chatrooms, I saw red flags *everywhere*
What I wasn't expecting was the twist at the end.
Same. At first I thought Rachel was Kevin and just wanted attention.
Haha what you've failed to see, is unless you've met or video chatted with a person on multiple occasions.
Its possible All of them were just 1 stalker lol
Having no multiple accts doesn’t make you a stalker 🤣
Yeah, It’s been years since I have really participated in a chatroom but I grew up in sort of the golden era of dial up and AOL and chatrooms. They were very exciting back in the day and like most kids who were 10 in the year 2000 a big part of adolescence was going online and messing around in chatrooms… It really was the wild west back then. probably around 2003ish we went from dial up to a dedicated connection where I could be online whenever I wanted without disturbing the phone line. I was young and obviously more naive but it does not take a rocket scientist to quickly figure out that people lie in chatrooms and send fake pictures, never assume anyone is who they say they are.
I actually ended up getting in quite a bit of trouble for some “hacking” type of shenanigans I was involved in. I kind of joined this collective of other young people interested in hacking and I was sort of known for being pretty good at “social engineering” where you basically trick humans to gain access into things. It’s just another form of hacking… you can spend a weekend trying to crack a password using code and various programs or you could just straight up try to trick the target into giving it to you. So I made this fake AIM Account called Eric Wilmaz AIM - a completely fake name and idk why I remember it damn near 20 years later. I would send a message to the target and also there was a a command to insert these really official looking lines into messages… it was like shift + s or something but it would insert a big bold line in the body of the message. I would make it sound more professional but I would send a message along the lines of hey at 8:47:22 PM we detected a login from your account in Laredo Texas 000.000.0.0 (fake IP address) please confirm you are the correct user. please type your password case exact as you entered it to log in.
I swear I am not exaggerating when I say this had like a 40% success rate. I would astounded how well this worked and I will admit I was a little asshole but I also would log into peoples accounts and boot them off, then change their password but I never really did anything malicious… maybe I might send a message to someone on their buddy list and say like haha I stole your friends account… often the owner of the account would message me through an alt screename or a friends account and ask me to please give them their account back and I would proceed to share with them what I changed the password to, give them a little lecture about security and be on my way allowing them to take the account back. I say all that to say that some people (especially kids) were EXTREMELY GULLIBLE especially in the earlier days of the internet… I worked with a guy who shared a story about how a few years ago he thought he was talking to a girl and proceeds to send a dick pic with his face included. This “girl” who was actually some scammer type he was talking too proceeds to blackmail him threatening to send the picture to all his facebook friends… he actually complied with the demands and sent them $250… of course a day later they turn around and demand more money and he ends up refusing the demands and they went and sent this picture to like 50+ facebook connections he had. This happened in 2015 to a guy in his mid 20’s lol.
You font need to be a member of a chatroom to see these red flags. They were all very obvious, with the exception of John being behind it all.
This is one of the weirdest stories I've ever heard.
Straight movie shit
It really is like wtf😳
Right! Wtf was all I could say
It still doesnt feel real, it feels like it didnt happen in real life
Can someone explain tho? I don't really understand the ending...So the person who got arrested was the person that got stabbed? Didn't Mark get any jail time for stabbing someone? I'm sooo confused by this story, please help me understand lol
John really should have worn a bullet proof vest that could deflect a knife blade. And when Mark realized he couldn't kill him, John would say "You've completed the test! You weren't supposed to kill me. But Rachel is a double-agent and we set up a trap to catch her. It also confirmed your ability to carry out missions that may require terminating someone." From there, John could keep up the ruse and have Mark go on a multitude of missions.
that actually wouldve been so cool
I don't actually think bullet proof vests could stop knives. I don't know what they're made out of now but from what I remember a knife could stab through. The vest only slows and weakens the impact of the bullet so it doesn't pierce your skin.
@@onewaystaircase they can but the plates are designed to break apart so depending on the force am the knife it may not work but we had some really dumb privates in the army that tried to stab each other so I've seen it work
🤣
@@onewaystaircase they work pretty well on knives. even the ones without plates. The design of bulletproof vests is to stop something from penetrating all the way through them, if a bullet cant penetrate all the way through, a knife blade from a stab will also have ALOT of trouble. you would still be hurt some from the force of the stab, but you wouldn't be cut.
but there is also such a thing as stab-proof vests.
Still trying to understand how John got away with impersonating over 100+ people in this chatroom. WHAT??? That twist was so random and unexpected!
I think there were still a lot of real people on the server, as the server was not even made by John himself
@@oldgregrl1934 okay that makes a lot more sense! You can never trust the internet, goodness
I guess he just mainly faked the accounts in their "private chat room". Rachel, Kevin and the agent. Everything else would not be possible to execute believable.
I've impersonated at least 40
He said that John had made up hundreds of accounts
I actually fully expected rachel and kevin and janet to all be one person from the beginning, but I didn't know it was all john, that was such a good plot twist
Right me too. I was thinking it was some older dude grooming john and mark.
Crazy ass
Same here, holy crap.
“And he was just not a very bright person.” The nicest insult I’ve ever heard.
Also the most accurate
🤣😂😂🤣🤣
I like how at the start MrBallen established how "dumb" Mark is, so him believing crazy stuff is actually plausible.
Inmate: “what are you in here for?”
John: “inciting my own murder.”
Inmate: “I’m sorry, what?”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The comments are gold on this video.
I laughed my ass off when I read this one too. 😂😂😂😂😂
"inciting"
I understood only mark went to jail. Not John
@@xo2308
Hmm... I'm conflicted with that one.. shouldn't he have gotten some jail time too? At least like, 3 months or something
@@zeearts9484 3 months?! WAAAAAY more than that. And Mark shouldn't get any time at all. His only crime was being stupid. John was full out gaslighting the dude. Since the only person he hurt was the guy gaslighting and manipulating him he should have gotten off while John got attempted murder.
“6969”
Mark: sounds legit
your friend makes a joke mark oh shit
Ahh double noice
as someone named mark I can confirm it does sound legit to me
Keep the 420 likes on this comment
@@gn4sh7 ah nice I like it
One day, John woke up and was like "I'm gonna gaslight my friend into killing me."
i dont think you know what that word means
@@nessiie Probably used it incorrectly, but I do know what itr means.
@@crazyfun95 lmao. So what did you actually mean?!
@@Django0324 Replace the word "gaslight" from my original comment with "trick" or "manipulate" and that's more what I meant.
@@crazyfun95 fair enough. 👏🏽
there have been a lot of really messed-up stories on this channel, but this one blew me away
"John nearly died twice on the table"
one for Rachel, the other for Kevin
This comment is gold 😂😂😂
Lololol
😂😂😂
"Catfished," the horror story.
Indeed
@Amme Smith yea
The fact that you could tell this story without laughing the whole time is a testament to your professionalism.
I’m sure he probably cut some of it out.
Wow, that’s wild…. I have to say listening to your stories is reminding me to teach my kids about common sense and discernment, way more often than I already do. Way too many weirdos out there that want to take advantage!!!
This was the best story I’ve ever heard and I can’t believe this ain’t a movie yet
It is a movie. Called UWantMe2KillHim?
Its good. And its free on the Tubi app. 👍
@@_DropTheMike I just looked it up. It looks good!
There’s a few movies on it
Omg yez
A 14-year old that can manipulate a 16-year into murdering him and has the ability to run a chat room with over a hundred accounts, create fantastical stories, keeps it all straight AND doesn't abort the murder plot is beyond frightening to me. What kind of adult is John going to become? Hopefully he's under some sort of psychiatric supervision/monitoring.
Maybe he's a real spy now
@@melodicseaweed387 he should be!
a fantastical story? did we hear the same story about an undercover adult secret agent who offered a 14 year old to be his girlfriend and an underwater safe which can only be opened by a random 16 year old
@@cvvyc Fantastical means fantasy, not that it's 'great' or a good story.
@@RiderOfTheRohirrim is it not a good story??
Reminds me of the AOL chat rooms from 100 years ago 😬
One first comment, and two the chatrooms on DS are completely silent too-
I forgot what it was called and THEY ARE HELLA SILENT.
Use to love those chat rooms
Ha, AOL, haven't heard about that crappy service forever 🤣
@@roadsgt97 yeah,they were good for a laugh.
You're so good, I picked up the habit of liking every one of your videos before the video even starts 😂
Honestly, I’m amazed “Mark” figured out how to get into a chat room.
Surprised he even could open the laptop lid
😂😂😂😂
BAH
🤣😂😬🤦🏾♀️
True
John: “ I can’t have Janet tell Mark he fail the test & ghost him. That’s simply not possible. The only way to end this is to have him murder me.”
Seriously dude wtf 😂
BAHAHAH didn't even think of that 😂😂
Lmao these two might be some of the dumbest on Earth
But Mark had hung around with John, he knew him by face and in person... Surely he would've questioned John about him being "James bell"
Because John was already feeling guilty for cheating mark 🤷
i feel like John should have been convicted for basically stalking and manipulating Mark not just for inciting his own murder
Pleased to meet you! I wish you to become a big channel very soon! You can do it! Signed up for your content! Would be very happy to get +1 too! Big thanks! Best of life to you! :0
Agreed
He should have just confessed......
Your storytelling is absolutely brilliant!
"I want to meet up and give you a hug? I'm so sorry your embarrassed" hmm that sounds right coming from someone just "released" from being held hostage...
hahah true
Very suspicious 🤨
@@rachelbarber6867 yea
“Inciting your own murder”. That’s new. This story was crazy from the beginning
I remember watching a documentary about this on TV yeeears ago. It was absolutely mind blowing
Lmfao what insanity. Like wtf was up with this John dude
Court system justice is dumb. It’s more important to find culpability and punish than to actually help the involved parties. In this case one kid got attempted murder charge on his record for wanting to feel loved (I understand he almost killed someone who wanted to die) and the mastermind got off with less than a slap on the wrist. In my opinion this did not deserve any charges on either party but instead years of psychiatric therapy.
I remember this happening. Man it was crazy.
@Reverend Ape allegedly Manson and the CIA were the same agency and that is why that went down how it did. ***ALLEGEDLY***
Nigerian prince: my bank is frozen I need your help
Mark: sounds legit
Plot twist, Mark was also the Nigerian prince conning himself, unfortunately Mark didn’t realize he was conning himself until it was too late.
My roommate fell for this...... Twice.
@@benaltoboarder u need a new roommate
I actually, truely work for a bank in London. Your family member that youve never met was extremely rich and recently passed away. He left you 25 million dollars, but the only way to access this account and get you your inheritance you must pay the $5,000 lawyer fee. Please western union me the money right away. If we don't act fast the money will be lost forever and siezed by the government.
HA! 😂
This changed my life. Thank you.
This is the most insane story I've ever heard
IKR there should be a Anime based off this story or a show
I know right? When you have too much time on your hands...
@@gamesgames2389 There is a movie based off of this. Its called "U want me 2 kill him".
it's a movie
Thats because its fake
John would be a perfect dungeon master for DND.
Until he decided to kill the whole party off because he couldn't find a better out for them. lol!
@@lindablue7494 Just come to the table strapped.
Never played dnd I was always a call of duty guy
Yeah and he would play DnD with a group of friends - that are all played by himself.
@Ryker Jett Something tells me that you're 7 years old.
This might genuinely be the weirdest story I've ever heard. This doesn't sound just like a movie, it sounds like one of those dime-a-dozen, cheesy high school animes where you're constantly rolling your eyes at how implausible the whole plot is.
Yes. It definitely doesn't work for a movie. Nobody will believe that it's realistic. Makes me wonder how movies can actually be way more closer to real life than I think...
It’s not dimes a dozen at all. Quite the literal opposite in every possible conception point. Not sure if I’ve ever heard a story as nuts as this. From the standpoint this was all one person
@Kane Foxx yeah whole point of anime is its not supposed to be like real life. Thats what makes it enjoyable
Like the last 5 seasons of The Walking Dead?
@@itiswhatitis3198 haha. Very funny and possibly accurate. I say “possibly” because I stopped watching the season after Sasha killed herself. It was the protracted pathetic shootout. They forgot they weren’t supposed to have bullets. 😂😂
That’s why parents need to tell these stories to their kids! 🏴
Mark: 🔪 I’m sorry bro
John: understandable have a nice day ✌🏻
LMAO
this is so funny
Ay no homo dawg.
Nah you good dawg.
Lol!!
Lol
Once every hour, someone is involved in an internet scam.
That man is Mark.
This comment is the best one on here 🤣 lmao
Wow
Love the office/e though
He really is
😂😂
"He isn't a very bright person"
He wasn't even close to bright
True
Hey wasn't even dim.
The inside of a buried coffin is brighter than this guy...
😂😂😂😂 i literaly thought the same
Mans was vanta black
What a crazy story, definitely wasn't expecting the ending. Very cool.
The only person ever arrested for inciting their own murder.😂
Lmao
Selfie-cide?
That's crazy
Indirect suicide leaving someone else to take the blame
@@vextract4662 lol
💀💀💀
Just when I think he’s told us the weirdest story I’ve ever heard, he tops it with THIS one.
Ond,as,;ö, SOS todm 9´)´ m09
mrrmmmåo§2
...next time mark and john will go cave diving instead of down a dead-end alley... ;p
Have never heard of this case anywhere else. I doubt it could be presented any better.
Agreed. Mr. Ballen deserves so much recognition for the quality of his content.
Imagine how fast John must have typed
Mark*
@@dankone3 Woosh
@@Fishii108 It was John. He had the 189 accounts and created the chat room. It's an older story, like early 2000s. I remember hearing that John was suicidal or telling the police that's why he did it. Really bizarre story and never actually released the names I don't think.
DUDE, microwaving a grape split in half is crazy af
@@ryanharris6788 yes it is.
Reminds of the time I was moderating a forum, back in the days.
There were two members (Mephisto and Faust) who hated each other. They were always looking each other up to throw insults at one another. They were both quite entertaining with their insults: comedy gold. At the beginning. After some time the funny insults became darker, spiraling out of control into actual death threats. So with Faust being the more reasonable one, we moderators decided to ban Mephisto from the forum.
Years later Faust - you guessed it - admitted that he and Mephisto were the same person. We had a good laugh about it but I remember that he said something that I found weird at the time. He said that, at one point, when Mephisto was insulting Faust to the bone, it made him/Faust feel angry. That feeling was too weird even for him and that was the reason he started Mephisto to threaten his life, so we had no choice than to ban the latter.
Apparently, taking on different personas messes with your brain. At one point they become (almost) real in your head. I believe that's what happened to John.
I wonder if the person you interacted with had some mild form of DID
@@PalisadePerytonI’m fairly certain that’s not how DID works though
Ah a casual Goethe enjoyer. Good on him
"The only person ever convicted of inciting his own murder" is the dumbest thing I'd only expect to hear on Actually Happened.
Its just suicide with extra steps
I was a dumb kid.
I am now a dumb adult.
But not in every way.
@@laurieberry4814 vcv chick if u hi go xhfj do dg th tent edn h sorry duis
The very definition of "Hey I'm writing a book but I don't know how to kill the main character. It's an autobiography"
omg jut him or her
Omg stfu 🤣🤣🤣🤣
That is so messed up, but hilarious.
Are you god or something
666 likes…fits on this channel. Spooky
This comment is way underrated. I’m laughing so hard at this. Omg.
This has to be one of the most insane stories I have heard in a while. Worse than the girls believing in the slender man killing
Watch the movie, it's pretty good #uwantmetokillhim
@@billnoted7719 A movie?
Really? What's it called?
@Daniel Speed wagon Cheers😁
@@billnoted7719 broo movie was trash
Not sure if it's worse, but it's on a par.
this was the first time i had to laugh at one of your episodes. "...which no one was ever been charged with"... thanks a lot for weeks of content to fill my boring workshifts. and best of luck to you and your family!
in the end even Mark was also revealed to be John, he was just a schizophrenic man stabbing himself in an alley.
LMao, you should have added plot twist at the start.
Actually everyone is just John.
Because John is the Windfish and we are all his dreams
John! Can’t believe I bumped into you here!😂🤣☺️
@@Nerobyrne Its like Negan except were all John.
Who are you? I am John.
What if we are all John @_@.
Lol. He was the only guy ever charged with “Inciting his own murder”. I don’t know why that is so hilarious to me.
lol made me laugh too
Bwahahaha
You are not alone.. I can’t stop laughing my arse off!
It’s so ridiculous it ends up being hilarious.
Finally a top comment that's not just normies amazed at how youtube works
@@schweedies4597 you are just too cool for school aren’t you hun?
TH-cam is for everyone
Be nice 👍
"because janet doesn't exist..."
Huh no surprise there
"...and neither did rachel"
*wait what???*
"...and neither did kevin"
*Oh no i don't like thi---*
"it was all john!!!"
*Holy fucking christ that took a complete 180 in the worst way possible*
@A Z yeah i kind of assumed rachel was still a real person but is a scammer or abducter or something. I didnt expect LITERALLY EVERYONE IN THE CHAT ROOM was john LOL
all john but you see, they were also allll cake!!
ikr i physically gasped
Yo I had to pause the damn video! I never would have suspected him.
And the fact that something very similar to this happened to me before. It didnt end up in murder but bruh i cant believe i was dumb enough to believe that.
I have officially found my new favorite story.
Everybody gangsta until the Dark and mysterious is delivered in the story format
peiwdipieye
Ong
everyone litterilly says this 🙄
@Chicken Little lol it's jst a typo 'chicken little' go back to your coop 😂😭🤣
@Chicken Little that's what your mom's been saying to you 😏😂 maybe you should listen to her more. you have a great day now and God bless .smiles.
Wtf John wanted to be murdered?! And still he said "You are killing me?!"
He's an actor through and through
That’s what I call dedication
Bill Cipher?
@@alonelyspaceman that wasnt code talk,btw the board is full of nazis so thats why there hasnt been new posts
Method
Imagine hiring John and when his criminal background check comes through you see he was arrested for inciting murder upon himself.
*LOL*
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Boss: I see You won’t let anything come in between u & getting the job done.. not even you.. You’re hired.
that's like committing suicide and then being posthumously charged with murder!
@@dazbeal5438 weirdly enough i had a friend who tried to commit suicide.... he was sent to jail for murder charges.... what is weird is that i found 15 corpses of children in his backyard!
@@manstay6295 Strange friends you keep.
This… was truly one of the stories of all time
I like how Mark never thought it was weird that Rachel didn’t go to the police after she was abducted. Instead she went to Mark and wanted a hug 😂
@Dave DDM No its not. Its a real case.
@@pegleg2959 because the movie is based on a true story
Not gonna lie I didn't even think of that
@@justanothergaming2086 oh hey Mark good to meet you!
Of course he didn't. After all, this is the same guy who thought he would unlock a chest on the seafloor with a dead body and get rich.
This is the craziest plot twist EVER!
right
Plot twist
Plot twist
Plot twist
A plot twist on top of plot twist ON TOP of a plot twist
Pleased to meet you! I wish you to become a big channel very soon! You can do it! Signed up for your content! Would be very happy to get +1 too! Big thanks! Best of life to you! :0
when you're too shy to tell a guy you love him and he's too stupid to know you're impersonating a spy.
When your smurf account plots to murder you.
Haha maybe Mark just wasn’t gay
@@Alienspecies635 Penetration by any means necessary.
Sounds like an anime plot
Right?? Who would believe all of this shit??? I’m amazed at how ppl can be so gullible. I’m so happy that I have trust issues.
Mark's gullibility is hilarious enough, but you'd think surely by the time they got to Janet he would realize something was up. 'I'm a secret agent and you'll be one of us and **I'll be your girlfriend** if you complete this mission''.
When I was young, my dad and I went on a chatroom together so he could show me how creepy and gross people were. He said "are these the type of people you want showing up at our house?" I said "No," and that's how I never trusted people online.
Your dad’s the real man!! Idk why my parents would never do that even if it makes me learn a valuable lesson, and they just expect me to go out there online and explore on my own hoping that I’m smart enough to not find any sort of trouble while being there...
thats actually a genius idea, your dad sounds like a smart man. probably the best parenting tip ive ever seen lol
@@Archerdon88 He also taught me me to defend myself with any item, mainly a sharp pencil because I was allowed to carry one around everywhere. He said he didn't want me being those dumb girls that die in the beginning of horror movies. 😂
@@mrtheonexx8749 Internet safety is so extremely important nowadays. I think it's as important as learning not to take anything or go anywhere with strangers.
Awesome Dad teaching moment!
NO E-GIRLS. NEVER.
Mark def got the the $30 subscription
Wt f
yeah boi
@@Soul-OnFire shuuush
Didnt expect to see you here
The power behind slow grooming and mind control is truly phenomenal. This was told very well. Thanks for a great video
This is exactly what I was thinking while listening to this... it’s kind of scary
@@kathernandez5165 we want to think “who could be that stupid??” But in truth, anyone can be groomed.
Q is a good example... how the Russians still trick thousands of Americans right now...
@@ashesforbeauty6582 yeah but he was super dumb lol wouldn't catch me doing that stuff ngl
Thanks MrBallen for another great story!! ❤❤❤❤
thats a whole new level of "im too scared to ask him out"
Blimey, that was the most unexpected ending of any story, ever.
Did NOT see that coming!
I would say it sounds like a movie, but frankly I'd say any movie with that plot would be unbelievable, and suspense breaking.
*blimey*
Blimey, sounds cool
Absolutely incredible! Teenagers !
Loved this, crazy story. And what's even crazier is how this guy was able to manipulate that many accounts.
Dude, I know right. HOW? I’m like thinking,The amount of time that must have taken. That is actually sick. He could have actually done a lot of good with the time he spent doing that.
@@cassiecraft8856 Yeah. He should have been committed to a treatment facility at least.
Seriously. 180 accounts. Who has the time to manipulate that many accounts it’s obscene to me.
Would be really interesting too see where these two are now.
This story is like something right out of a thriller movie. Wow!
" Not even fiction writers could come up with something like this "
Fiction writers; Hold my alien ✍
that's because the details of the story are so ludicrous. the fact that such nonsense actually happened is what makes it _amazing_
Lol..love it
If someone did write something like this, people will be quick to call plot hole or question how far people are willing to suspend their disbelief to accept that people are this gullible.
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16 year olds: "Alright, I can drive! I'll be able to vote in two years!"
Also 16 year olds: "I had to kill my friend because a secret agent said his body was the key to an underwater safe..."
You actually can't drive at 16 in the UK (I know that's not really the point of your post!)
@@hannahp1195 No driving at 16, no guns, and the cops show up at your door for shitposting :(
There are idiotic 61 year-olds. An arbitary number doesn't make one wise.
@@damiendarko9411 you can have sex at 16 though.. so thats an upside. And not giving lunatics (like those in these posts) guns is definitely another upside.
@@freakydeaky1435 Not being able to defend yourself from lunatics because self defense is basically banned is a downside.
During court when John is explaining all the accounts,
Mark: "Wait, it's all John?"
John: "Always have been."
Well yes... but actually yes
"I'm sorry Garfield"
_It was Jonatha all along!_