Us Ujungs haven't be really disturbed by that change in concept, Starship is steadily preparing us for it since Save Me Save You, especially in their b-sides. We are overall very happy about the comeback and most ujungs wanted their concept to change a bit because both the members and us wanted to see them doing something different.
I’ll be fine with whatever concept they do, since in every album they have sort of had a signature WJSN song (ex. Where you are in Neverland & Super Moon in their newest)
One thing I have noticed about WJSN is that 90% of the times their b-sides are usually MUCH better than the title tracks, and this time is no different, the b-sides of Unnatural are just CHEF'S KISS. They just have this big power that makes a huge difference on their albums.
wjsn is a five years old group, I think it's nice they are releasing stuff that is a bit more different than their "cosmic sound", and since 2019 I would say their bsides have been sounding like that so it's no surprise to us ujungs :)
The "magazine photoshoot" MV is everywhere for real, even in BG mv (more focus on danse when GG is more focus on glamor shots). It's always the same type of MV where the sets and the outfits are the only important points. No story, juste the most aesthetic shots of each member. Thoses MV can be summerize to multiple set with a design/Minimal concept and "chic/vogue" vibe (pretty empty and large sets most of the time). Take glamor shots of each member, 2-3 dance group shots, mix them together and that's pretty much it :/
For amazing MVs with storyline, I would like to recommend ONF music videos (we must love, why, beautiful beautiful), if you haven't watched them before :)
@@veninagelynchua515 oneus, dreamcatcher, and gfriend too. onf, dreamcatcher, oneus, and gfriend have such amazing storylines in their mvs and songs 😫👌
I feel like that's why Loona's MV's to me really stand out (also they're visually stunning). While a few I would say lean a bit towards the generic side I like how they all tell a story within the Loonaverse and have deeper meanings and messages. Loona's predebut MV's are especially story driven and I love it!
i have an actual obsession with seola’s first lines in the song... like the melody is incredible and her voice is so velvety- unnatural is just so good y’all 😩
I think As You Wish was the last magical title track. They still have some of that sound in their B sides, hopefully they dont completely erase it. I love Unnatural, it does sound like it could be an IZONE song to me
Just like most people mentioned, I also think that after 5 years it is natural for their sound to change, girls grew up both age-wise and musically. I personally think this kind of style is better for Exy for example, since debut I don't think she got lots of tracks where she can really show off her rapping, maybe Catch Me? Also I think since girls grew up, cutesy concepts like I Wish for example are harder to pull off for older members, same moves gives different vibes when someone is 21 vs 26. Another thing is when looking at girls' self produced songs I feel like this is closer to their styles and wants. Personally I feel like they've slowly and gradually bloomed.
I think thats what wjsn members wanted they always was trained with these mature and chic concept, like a lot of their b-side are like this since save me save you. The members was kinda tired of the magical thing they've been doing for 5 years now. I think they are gonna comeback with the magical concept next comeback as this one is called "UNNATURAL"..?
Honestly they've been around for 5 years at this point and it's only natural their sound will change. I really don't mind because I never stanned the girls for the "cosmic concept" per se but more so just because I thought they had amazing songs regardless of the "concept". As long as the music quality stays I really could care less what the "concept" is and as far as the albums go they have always been some of my absolute favourites, this one included. Also the cosmic concept wasn't doing that great with the general public and they've gained a lot more attention since they've started to change the sound of their title tracks.
I think it's interesting that their mvs have been loosing quality/creativity when their popularity has been rising and their sales have been exploding lately.
@@WJSN_officiaI I feel like even without cosmic concept, the MV can be good quality and creative. Some examples in my mind are Taemin - Want and Chungha - Snapping. Both of these MVs have similar concept to Unnatural and are also creative. I think the problem is Starship isn't investing enough in the past few MVs.
@@pllatlatvd6851 i didnt say that unnatural's mv wasnt good, it was just... it. bcs we've seen other mvs like unnatural with similar concept, i wasnt as amazed compared to their previous mvs. nonetheless, unnatural still had a good mv, its just they're not going the cosmic route anymore that underwhelmed me
Yes, I hope we will get another comeback soon instead of waiting for a long time again... Also it's really nice seeing someone who likes Kyoukai no Kanata
WJSN is moving on from their whimsical and fantasy image as many recently debuted girl groups are kinda doing their old stuff. Besides that, the most of the girls are going to their mid 20s, therefore they want to show their mature side and not showing their cutesy side. Since most of the girls are into retro and city pop, and Neverland was the album which started off this genre and had good reactions from the fandom, they wanted to adopt that as their new sound, without removing their image as spacey and dreamy concept. I think Unnatural really got a good reaction from the international fans, and you can see from their MV Views of this video, many neutral stans took attention of them and got a positive response. I hope this would work out for them as they are due for a contract renewal in 2023.
as an ujung, I personally think they still have that magical sound, they are just slightly reshaping it, for lack of a better word. to me, their magic is presenting itself more in an elegant type of way, the type of magic that is controlled and powerful, but still has that hint of fantasy hidden underneath. as for the music video, it did feel a little plain to me. I think starship definitely could've gone all out on a sparkling royalty concept and didn't utilize the concept to its full potential (it's starship, are we truly surprised?). but overall, the girls have been wanting a more mature look and sound for a while now and I'm so happy that they finally get to have that. plus, they look absolutely STUNNING. I think their sound is changing for the better and that they are just in a transition stage right now. but regardless I am still very much so enjoying this comeback and think it is a very good sound for them.
@@BoChan0624 Girl Crush is also on its way out. Look at the rise of Brave Girls. The market is oversaturated with Crush now and Koreans are looking to the old for the new and then you have trot. This happened in the in the 2010s a lot of sexy concepts and everyone wanted cute like Gfriend and Apink so that became most popular. Companies need to be smart and not follow a trends to stand out now.
I’ve been casually listening to WJSN since boogie up and I’ve decided to stan them after Unnatural. This more mature retro concept that has been trending in kpop is the exact style of music I adore I could never get tired of listening to it. Unnatural sounds like it could be something that maybe Lovelyz would comeback with after their concept change
I know I’m late but I’ve been a fan since debut, and honestly I am so happy with the direction they’ve taken. Their albums having honestly gotten better and better every time. I still think their music is magical, with production that I am just in love with. I feel them coming more into themselves!
The MV isn't special, but this song is really good. I also appreciate the fact that WJSN transitioned to an elegant chic concept instead of a typical girl crush concept like most girl groups go into. They've kind of discarded the cosmic sound in their title tracks since a few comebacks ago (though they usually perserve it in their b-sides), but I hope they maintain their magical cosmic sound and eventually go back to it from time to time. But I LOVE elegant chic concepts, because it is unique and uncommon these days, so I love this.
I've really preferred WJSN B-sides for their past 3 releases more than the title tracks, and I don't think album will be an exception. Pantomime is still one of my most played songs of all time.
I said the exact same thing while watching the mv the first time. The sets reminded me of iz*one and wekimeki's song cool (its probably because of their usage of lights) and that the way the mv was shot reminds me of the boyz mvs. Anyway, I liked the song, though I think their older title tracks are more memorable.
Be honest we're all going to miss the magical concepts of The Secret to WJ Stay? :) But I really love this comeback though. Just not as much as Secret, Save Me Save You and La La Love.
as a fan though, i'm such a huge fan of their old sound to be honest especially with as you wish and how everything sounded kinda magical and nostalgic. the recent ones are pretty great for me too, but it's not exactly giving me the same kinda vibe, but i still love love it in some way. need to get used to it though, i think. 💓🥰
i don't know but something about wjsns music hits different. they've got a strangely distinct sound. only way i can describe it is like,,, g r o o v y?? I can't words.
so the thing about wjsn is that its not just starship that their under but also yuehua as well. and through rumors ive seen yuehua announced that they will no longer be supporting startship and severing all ties. yuehua is a rich company and theyve been supporting wjsn most of the groups career but considering mei qi, xuan yi, and cheng xiao didnt return to the group after the rocket girls promotion ended last year i feel it safe to assume that changes were already happening by the release of butterfly, hence why the change in mv quality and even their stage outfits seemed low budget. just a feeling but i assume that by loosing their financial backing starship decided to start these changes to that wjsn fits whats trending to make $$$. its very sad cus on one end alot of fans have brought up the girls wanting to change their image but on the other they always have positive things to say about their music so its hard to really know whats the right thing to feel. as a fan myself i do enjoy thier new sound but i wish the mv were as magical and plot driven as b4. also the album sales werent as high as butterflys for the first day sales so it really does seem like the fandom has mixed feelings about the changes happening. i think starship should start using the money wjsn earned for the group instead of putting other projects ahead of them like debuting a new boy group and rumored girl group, and invest in proper mvs and stage outfits and promote them better like they did in previous comebacks. they should also make official announcement of whats happenings with china line. starship is critisized amongst k-netz as being a label that doesnt listen to fans.
7:37 the sound and concept shift for me started with La La Love but solidified with As You Wish... that song BLEW UP in Korea. Continuing off that success, Butterfly and Unnatural both keep a similar mature/modern concept and sound.
I just noticed that the songs were slowly getting more and more different from the cosmic and magical feel they were known for by the time they were utilizing more of the other members’s voices. I mean, they all of them has such good vocals, but the recent song choices ain’t doing it for me. 🥺 But man, you can’t deny they all look so stunning in the MV, the girls are still being styled with care and on point 🥺✨😭💕
I love the second track, I hope they promoted it because it is a great, dance-able song (even tho it's not as less magical and bubble as the third or the fourth track). I really hoping - and this is coming from an outsider
And btw I didn't also like butterfly a lot at first but it grew on me A LOT and that era, Nevetland, the concept and BUTTERFLY turned me into an Ujung and I really think it's the type of song EVERYONE should give another chance to, I'm 100% sure you'd understand how AMAZING the song is after several listens!
Personally, I'm also really gonna miss that OG whimsical sound from their songs but I'm glad they're transitioning into a more mature sound. I just feel that their music video quality has gotten worse since As You Wish because it's become as basic as it gets. Starship NEEDS to hire a better studio/creative team damn.
PS. PD, I think you'd enjoy Yalla and Super Moon from the album! Most tracks have a disco/retro sound to them though, so it's not really very wjsn-like, sadly.
honestly i kind of agree with what you mean. Secret, Dreams Come True, Save Me Save You, La La Love, and As You Wish definitely gave off a more magical vibe which was definitely their selling point. Honestly i wouldn’t be surprised if more gg’s start transitioning like this, Twice already did, i feel like Oh My Girl will follow that train next but we have to see since it’s been a while since a comeback, fromis_9’s feel good was vastly different than what they usually do, and some other misc. examples. And i see what you mean with the underfunding, comparing this music video to La La Love and Save Me Save You it’s a lot different. I don’t know if it’s an issue with selling because I think they’re doing well in korea and have a large fan base in china, but just a matter of the company playing follow the leader. I rly liked the song and to me Butterfly wasn’t bad, but i would be lying if i said these songs gave me the same feels as their other majestical title tracks
Although I really love and miss the “magic” era of WJSN such as Secret, Dreams Come True, etc., at the same time I was always hoping they would do a more mature concept because I know they can really pull it off! So because of that this is definitely up there as one of my favorites. I’m excited to see what they do next and i don’t mind the change!
You summed up my feelings exactly! The MV/concept just doesn’t excite me too much. I feel like I could picture this on a number of other groups. This song is fine, but I really miss their cosmic sound! I think that they could do a more “mature” concept without losing that sound that they’re known for.
I loved this song after the first listen. There’s something about it that immediately stuck with me. As for them transitioning to a more mature style, I think it might be starship creating “space” for an upcoming girl group. Even though it doesn’t explain moving away from the magic theme
it’s okay if you didn’t like butterfly as a title track but please, PLEASE tell me you listened the whole mini album because Neverland has AMAZING songs, really magical songs. Anyways, I feel like they changing their concept is a good thing, I mean they are a 5 year old girl group and it’s fine if they want to try more mature concepts because their essence is still there and their bsides are still great. They do feel like this amazing magical characteristic wjsn sound. Maybe in the future they return to their “cosmic”/“space” sound but with more mature tones and we are going to be so ready for them.
I don't know if you came back sometime after this comment, but he actually mentioned in this video that he liked Pantomime and Hola a lot from Neverland.
This transition from cute to girl crush is such a good choice IMO. They're growing and becoming women as time goes by so there's only so much cute you can do before it becomes cringe! This is such a good call and I'm sure they'll bloom into this concept very well! Looking forward to The Black! This music video was the first song from them. But I went back and saw all their music videos, the variety shows everything! Stanned so hard! The only issue with this group is trying to choose a bias! They all wreck!
Kinda agree with PD since when I first listen I feel the Izone vibe. It's really catchy but it's kinda remind me of other group instead of WJSN. The pre-chorus is so gooooood though.
The mv giving star wars x teen titans and I'm LIVING, sort of like a futuristic realm where April was situated. Also the disco, house and little bit of electro swing elements omg. Yep, the song deserved a post chorus so much
This sounds very negative however this music video looked cheap to me, starship seems to be slacking on wjsn when they literally had one comeback last year. To add, I am very scared for WJSN because izone disbands soon, Wonyoung and Yujin need to be in a new group and it seems like Starship is putting their full focus on them.
I wouldn't say the MV looks "cheap" but it's obviously a step down in budget from music videos like Save Me Save You, Dreams Come True, etc etc etc. I feel like the once dancing scene (the one that Yooa used in Bon Voyage) looks very low budget (since we know that it's used for many performance videos). The other dancing set with the blue lights was very cool. But overall, I think the music video was very plain and I do hope that Starship gives WJSN a more visually captivating music video.
I love when the meaning of the song effects the composition like it’s talking about something unnatural and I feel the song it self is not natural that choppy tune really fits the song love it
i miss the magical concept in their mv's (like secret, save me/save you even their secret films) the white/gold outfits are gorgeous the mini album is sooo great ♥ _ ♥
After 5 years as a fan, I'm just glad to get ANY comeback from WJSN! And I know the B-sides will make up for any main song shortcomings. But hell this time even the main song blew my mind!
i'm early for a change, but i appreciate your content so much PD! thanks for your genuine reactions and for being someone that actually dissects into the whole production. i needed this 😩💓💕
you have to react to pentagon’s do or not, it’s SO good, jinho isn’t in it bc he’s doing military training right now. but the theme seems 80’s to me but also present time, they have this one scene and it’s SO good. and i know you’ll love it. also hui left for the military soon after they filmed the music video.
Thank you for reacting so fast! I've been an ujung since secret era and I love every release they have put out so far, I adore that they try new things while maintaining their distinct sound and style. Like you hear any song of theirs and you instantly know it's a wjsn song. I agree that the butterfly mv was too simple for their usual style but I realy like the mv for Unnatural, it goes well with the song and concept. I recommend you to listen to the whole mini album, not one skippable song, all of them are so so good. I think you will love New Me as it reminds me of You Got and I know you loved that song when you did the album listen to WJ Stay (the album that has la la love). And Yalla reminds me of Pantomime haha
Honestly I don't think starship is giving enough attention to wjsn they're almost on a once a year comeback level this year and starship seem like they"re more involved in their bgs and they're probably going to debut a new gg so I hope they won't give up on wjsn
tbh!! the 'cosmic concept' is musically ALWAYS in wjsn's albums. it mainly consists of playful synths and modulations which are ALWAYS there. butterfly had a weak mv that's true, but you can HEAR the expensiveness in the music production for the album. we all probably started loving wjsn for the space concept and that is probably never going to go away (I mean, it's in their name!!) in terms of musicality. but it's nice to see them try out different concepts that will bring more fans (both Korean and international I would say) to the group
lovw how wjsn really has their own signature sound it's like very synthy, retro-y vibes with their magical/fantasy concepts (tho we didn't really this in thise comeback)
i see the evolution in their sound (thinking about the unnatural album as a whole) as a good thing and something that makes them constantly interesting
as a ujung, i can't agree more, the funniest point is even some of you are not ujung, you guys still find out that starship doesn't try to give them more resources, WJSN deserve more than it. the song is great, but not the music video. Also, starship seems doesn't even care about the teaser and the hidden films, they are short and sloppy. anyway thanks for studying UNNATURAL! :D
I liked so very much their last album with Butterfly, the b-sides were so goooood, and it was my first WJSN album actually where I liked every single song on it! So I was excited about this one, and I must say this title track is awesome for me, the pre-chorus is killing it and the highnotes are so good. I wonder what the album is like
i really do hope they come back to their magical/cosmic concept T_T i love unnatural but i do feel like their magical concept is what set them apart from other ggs. their newest music videos are very simple compared to secret, save me save you, etc... starship please don't do this to my girls 💔
I feel like ss is forgetting what makes WJSN different. I became an u-jung back in 2016 and they're ... following mainstream kpop now. It shows in their recent comebacks (specifically title tracks ... apart from summer releases and WJSN Chocome of course) and MVs especially. Starship took away their main title track sounds and decided to follow trends. Their MVs use to be so magical too... Secret, I Wish, DCT, Save me Save You, As You Wish, and arguably La La Love. Now their MVs look too simple for a group who's concept is supposedly "magical" and "cosmic". Unnatural is a nice MV but that concept doesn't fit what WJSN's vibes should be, same with Butterfly. Their looks and sound has skewed from what got me into them in the first place. Starship gave up on their concept since 2020, and I wish I knew why.
I wouldn’t say their sound has changed too dramatically album wise, their title tracks however have seen a complete shift in focus. Their sound with their bsides has matured while maintaining the signature sound that they’ve had, but their title tracks have shifted a little too much even though I love the recent songs. I have to agree with the music video situation though, it feels oversimplified while also trying to do to much and not really hitting the mark and I do feel like it’s them being underfunded and unfortunately I believe its related to their old concept underselling.
WJSN are stepping into a new level whilst still maintaining their fantastic signature sound. I’m so proud of them.
It's like lovelys obliviate for wjsn
@@ploryz but kinda better in my opinion
@@kim-hyunjoon6709 oh yeah its better. The only thing I feel obliviate did better was the key changed at the end, so smooth 10/10
@@ploryz Oblivitate had a better prechorus too, Babysoul's high notes were AMAZINGGGGG
@@ploryz 20th like
They’ve never gone this mature before and I’m LOVING IT
i think song-wise, save me save you is also mature but music video-wise, unnatural is really THAT MV.
@@premere4028 YES
there comes the mature patrol
Stream La La love
@@roomofmirros yes
Us Ujungs haven't be really disturbed by that change in concept, Starship is steadily preparing us for it since Save Me Save You, especially in their b-sides. We are overall very happy about the comeback and most ujungs wanted their concept to change a bit because both the members and us wanted to see them doing something different.
+the member itself said want to change their concept along time ago but starship seem to delay it.😁😁
I’ll be fine with whatever concept they do, since in every album they have sort of had a signature WJSN song (ex. Where you are in Neverland & Super Moon in their newest)
One thing I have noticed about WJSN is that 90% of the times their b-sides are usually MUCH better than the title tracks, and this time is no different, the b-sides of Unnatural are just CHEF'S KISS. They just have this big power that makes a huge difference on their albums.
Exactly, it‘s been almost a year and I‘m still not over HOLA
@@orbitiny1117 Me but with Pantomine (I loved Hola too doe)
New me is literally THE BOP
I have melted with listening to super moon & new me
...... Melted
especially FOR TUE SUMMER album. myghaad
wjsn is a five years old group, I think it's nice they are releasing stuff that is a bit more different than their "cosmic sound", and since 2019 I would say their bsides have been sounding like that so it's no surprise to us ujungs :)
The "magazine photoshoot" MV is everywhere for real, even in BG mv (more focus on danse when GG is more focus on glamor shots). It's always the same type of MV where the sets and the outfits are the only important points. No story, juste the most aesthetic shots of each member. Thoses MV can be summerize to multiple set with a design/Minimal concept and "chic/vogue" vibe (pretty empty and large sets most of the time). Take glamor shots of each member, 2-3 dance group shots, mix them together and that's pretty much it :/
For amazing MVs with storyline, I would like to recommend ONF music videos (we must love, why, beautiful beautiful), if you haven't watched them before :)
@@veninagelynchua515 oneus, dreamcatcher, and gfriend too.
onf, dreamcatcher, oneus, and gfriend have such amazing storylines in their mvs and songs 😫👌
let them try this.. its been 5 years. if you want to try lore, watch their previous mvs
Unironically blackpink’s impact..
I feel like that's why Loona's MV's to me really stand out (also they're visually stunning). While a few I would say lean a bit towards the generic side I like how they all tell a story within the Loonaverse and have deeper meanings and messages. Loona's predebut MV's are especially story driven and I love it!
i have an actual obsession with seola’s first lines in the song... like the melody is incredible and her voice is so velvety- unnatural is just so good y’all 😩
I’ve been a fan of WJSN for 5 years not gonna a lie I always wanted to see something different so I’m really pleased with this comeback
That pre-chorus leading into the chorus is MAGIC
I think As You Wish was the last magical title track. They still have some of that sound in their B sides, hopefully they dont completely erase it. I love Unnatural, it does sound like it could be an IZONE song to me
it's nice give me very izone vibe i'm happy someone could take over my music preference
its the producer, not for this song ? tho but izone songs are made by the producers that make most wjsn songs
Yeah I think so,,, It can be their next cb after panorama
@Ayzad Irfan maybe but unnatural has a very wjsn sound
yeah but I LOVE Izone songs so I'm not mad at the fact that "Unnatural" has those vibes!
Just like most people mentioned, I also think that after 5 years it is natural for their sound to change, girls grew up both age-wise and musically. I personally think this kind of style is better for Exy for example, since debut I don't think she got lots of tracks where she can really show off her rapping, maybe Catch Me? Also I think since girls grew up, cutesy concepts like I Wish for example are harder to pull off for older members, same moves gives different vibes when someone is 21 vs 26. Another thing is when looking at girls' self produced songs I feel like this is closer to their styles and wants. Personally I feel like they've slowly and gradually bloomed.
Second, waiting for this, the pre-chorus is super littttt!
I'm really ready to die after hearing those lines likeeeee acckkkk, idk what should I say, but IT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE NEED TO HEAR.
yes! it’s amazinggg!
I think thats what wjsn members wanted they always was trained with these mature and chic concept, like a lot of their b-side are like this since save me save you. The members was kinda tired of the magical thing they've been doing for 5 years now.
I think they are gonna comeback with the magical concept next comeback as this one is called "UNNATURAL"..?
they really trained for sexy concept but debuted with MoMoMo 😭😭😭
@@ujuluda7631 right..
@@ujuluda7631 😭😭😭😭
Honestly they've been around for 5 years at this point and it's only natural their sound will change. I really don't mind because I never stanned the girls for the "cosmic concept" per se but more so just because I thought they had amazing songs regardless of the "concept". As long as the music quality stays I really could care less what the "concept" is and as far as the albums go they have always been some of my absolute favourites, this one included. Also the cosmic concept wasn't doing that great with the general public and they've gained a lot more attention since they've started to change the sound of their title tracks.
Exactly my thoughts as a fan too.
i think the korean public really liked the concept but not the international fans.
I think it's interesting that their mvs have been loosing quality/creativity when their popularity has been rising and their sales have been exploding lately.
starship's fault, they're takimg off their cosmic concept
@@WJSN_officiaI I feel like even without cosmic concept, the MV can be good quality and creative. Some examples in my mind are Taemin - Want and Chungha - Snapping. Both of these MVs have similar concept to Unnatural and are also creative. I think the problem is Starship isn't investing enough in the past few MVs.
@@pllatlatvd6851 i didnt say that unnatural's mv wasnt good, it was just... it. bcs we've seen other mvs like unnatural with similar concept, i wasnt as amazed compared to their previous mvs. nonetheless, unnatural still had a good mv, its just they're not going the cosmic route anymore that underwhelmed me
Yes, I hope we will get another comeback soon instead of waiting for a long time again... Also it's really nice seeing someone who likes Kyoukai no Kanata
"How can i breath now now now " is stuck in my head
WJSN is moving on from their whimsical and fantasy image as many recently
debuted girl groups are kinda doing their old stuff.
Besides that, the most of the girls are going to their mid 20s, therefore they want to show their mature side and not showing their cutesy side.
Since most of the girls are into retro and city pop, and Neverland was the album which started off this genre and had good reactions from the fandom, they wanted to adopt that as their new
sound, without removing their image as spacey and dreamy concept.
I think Unnatural really got a good reaction from the international fans, and you can see from their MV Views of this video, many neutral stans took attention of them and got a positive response. I hope this would work out for them as they are due for a contract renewal in 2023.
From magical and dreamy wjsn to elegant, rich, serious wjsn
This is definitely unnatural and we ujungs love it ❤❤❤❤
as an ujung, I personally think they still have that magical sound, they are just slightly reshaping it, for lack of a better word. to me, their magic is presenting itself more in an elegant type of way, the type of magic that is controlled and powerful, but still has that hint of fantasy hidden underneath. as for the music video, it did feel a little plain to me. I think starship definitely could've gone all out on a sparkling royalty concept and didn't utilize the concept to its full potential (it's starship, are we truly surprised?). but overall, the girls have been wanting a more mature look and sound for a while now and I'm so happy that they finally get to have that. plus, they look absolutely STUNNING. I think their sound is changing for the better and that they are just in a transition stage right now. but regardless I am still very much so enjoying this comeback and think it is a very good sound for them.
it's the way i completely skipped over this song last year but queendom 2 got me ADDICTED... thank you queendom
It's now the end of 2021 and I think I can safely say that this was the song of the year
i really hope starship isn’t changing their concept to give it to their new gg 🙏
That is kinda impossibile in my opinion. You can't "give the concept" to the new gg because they will see the new group as a copycat of WJSN.
Do you mean the mystical concept or the mature concept ? I would honestly love to see their new gg with both concepts combined
More like ss testing the concept for their new gg with wjsn
@@BoChan0624 Girl Crush is also on its way out. Look at the rise of Brave Girls. The market is oversaturated with Crush now and Koreans are looking to the old for the new and then you have trot. This happened in the in the 2010s a lot of sexy concepts and everyone wanted cute like Gfriend and Apink so that became most popular. Companies need to be smart and not follow a trends to stand out now.
They have to evolve. If not there won't be a cb to even look forward to because everyone forgets about them overtime.
I’ve been casually listening to WJSN since boogie up and I’ve decided to stan them after Unnatural. This more mature retro concept that has been trending in kpop is the exact style of music I adore I could never get tired of listening to it. Unnatural sounds like it could be something that maybe Lovelyz would comeback with after their concept change
This song gave me izone panorama vibes but also their fantasy cosmic vibes and I loved it!!!
Man I love your honest reviews like this one
I know I’m late but I’ve been a fan since debut, and honestly I am so happy with the direction they’ve taken. Their albums having honestly gotten better and better every time. I still think their music is magical, with production that I am just in love with. I feel them coming more into themselves!
this song is so good
how can i breathe now now now 숨 쉬는 법을 잊은 듯 holding my breath 숨이 막혀 난 모두 out of my control
I love the pre chorus of Unnatural. Same feeling when I first heard OMG's Liar Liar where the pre chorus really sells it.
this song is a 10/10!!
i'm expecting an instrumental drop after the chorus but i felt like it is more beautiful this way lol
The MV isn't special, but this song is really good. I also appreciate the fact that WJSN transitioned to an elegant chic concept instead of a typical girl crush concept like most girl groups go into. They've kind of discarded the cosmic sound in their title tracks since a few comebacks ago (though they usually perserve it in their b-sides), but I hope they maintain their magical cosmic sound and eventually go back to it from time to time. But I LOVE elegant chic concepts, because it is unique and uncommon these days, so I love this.
I've really preferred WJSN B-sides for their past 3 releases more than the title tracks, and I don't think album will be an exception. Pantomime is still one of my most played songs of all time.
nice reaction....the more i see and hear WJSN the more i love them!....Jeonjung is my bias....she is so frickin amazing!
I said the exact same thing while watching the mv the first time. The sets reminded me of iz*one and wekimeki's song cool (its probably because of their usage of lights) and that the way the mv was shot reminds me of the boyz mvs. Anyway, I liked the song, though I think their older title tracks are more memorable.
Be honest we're all going to miss the magical concepts of The Secret to WJ Stay?
:)
But I really love this comeback though. Just not as much as Secret, Save Me Save You and La La Love.
agreed
as a fan though, i'm such a huge fan of their old sound to be honest especially with as you wish and how everything sounded kinda magical and nostalgic. the recent ones are pretty great for me too, but it's not exactly giving me the same kinda vibe, but i still love love it in some way. need to get used to it though, i think. 💓🥰
Normally when we hear WJSN making comeback we though of those magical vibe and that what WJSN stand out till now but their song always great.
I'm loving how Wjsn, Lovelyz, and Gfriend are going to a mature side
i don't know but something about wjsns music hits different. they've got a strangely distinct sound. only way i can describe it is like,,, g r o o v y?? I can't words.
so the thing about wjsn is that its not just starship that their under but also yuehua as well. and through rumors ive seen yuehua announced that they will no longer be supporting startship and severing all ties. yuehua is a rich company and theyve been supporting wjsn most of the groups career but considering mei qi, xuan yi, and cheng xiao didnt return to the group after the rocket girls promotion ended last year i feel it safe to assume that changes were already happening by the release of butterfly, hence why the change in mv quality and even their stage outfits seemed low budget. just a feeling but i assume that by loosing their financial backing starship decided to start these changes to that wjsn fits whats trending to make $$$. its very sad cus on one end alot of fans have brought up the girls wanting to change their image but on the other they always have positive things to say about their music so its hard to really know whats the right thing to feel. as a fan myself i do enjoy thier new sound but i wish the mv were as magical and plot driven as b4. also the album sales werent as high as butterflys for the first day sales so it really does seem like the fandom has mixed feelings about the changes happening. i think starship should start using the money wjsn earned for the group instead of putting other projects ahead of them like debuting a new boy group and rumored girl group, and invest in proper mvs and stage outfits and promote them better like they did in previous comebacks. they should also make official announcement of whats happenings with china line. starship is critisized amongst k-netz as being a label that doesnt listen to fans.
7:37 the sound and concept shift for me started with La La Love but solidified with As You Wish... that song BLEW UP in Korea. Continuing off that success, Butterfly and Unnatural both keep a similar mature/modern concept and sound.
I just noticed that the songs were slowly getting more and more different from the cosmic and magical feel they were known for by the time they were utilizing more of the other members’s voices. I mean, they all of them has such good vocals, but the recent song choices ain’t doing it for me. 🥺 But man, you can’t deny they all look so stunning in the MV, the girls are still being styled with care and on point 🥺✨😭💕
I actually really like their new sound for this comeback !!! It's so catchy!! I loved this song after the first listen...
PD YOU HAVE TO CHECK THE ALBUM! IT MIGHT BE THEIR BEST ONE IMO
I love the second track, I hope they promoted it because it is a great, dance-able song (even tho it's not as less magical and bubble as the third or the fourth track). I really hoping - and this is coming from an outsider
The second track GOES HARD, really
And btw I didn't also like butterfly a lot at first but it grew on me A LOT and that era, Nevetland, the concept and BUTTERFLY turned me into an Ujung and I really think it's the type of song EVERYONE should give another chance to, I'm 100% sure you'd understand how AMAZING the song is after several listens!
Personally, I'm also really gonna miss that OG whimsical sound from their songs but I'm glad they're transitioning into a more mature sound. I just feel that their music video quality has gotten worse since As You Wish because it's become as basic as it gets. Starship NEEDS to hire a better studio/creative team damn.
PS. PD, I think you'd enjoy Yalla and Super Moon from the album! Most tracks have a disco/retro sound to them though, so it's not really very wjsn-like, sadly.
The line distribution for this is great and it's a really fun dynamic shift for them.
Sidebar, Did I somehow miss PD's reaction to 'Lose' by Wonho??
kind of. he reacted to it on his livestream, so it should be coming at one point when he is done editing
@@SuperAsrain just fyi pretty sure pd uses they/them pronouns in case you didn't know 😊
THIS SONG IS INSANE
THIS SONG AND THE WHOLE ALBUM IS FIRE 🔥 I LOVE WJSN!!
This song is so crisp.
I didn't like Butterfly at all so I went into this with no expectations but IT'S A BOP! I've been replaying so many times already, a BOP!!!
omg my BLRIS friend!!! thank you for supporting new wjsn comeback!
@@timeep hello fellow BLRIS 💫 ofc! WJSN always makes amazing music! ❤️
honestly i kind of agree with what you mean. Secret, Dreams Come True, Save Me Save You, La La Love, and As You Wish definitely gave off a more magical vibe which was definitely their selling point. Honestly i wouldn’t be surprised if more gg’s start transitioning like this, Twice already did, i feel like Oh My Girl will follow that train next but we have to see since it’s been a while since a comeback, fromis_9’s feel good was vastly different than what they usually do, and some other misc. examples. And i see what you mean with the underfunding, comparing this music video to La La Love and Save Me Save You it’s a lot different. I don’t know if it’s an issue with selling because I think they’re doing well in korea and have a large fan base in china, but just a matter of the company playing follow the leader. I rly liked the song and to me Butterfly wasn’t bad, but i would be lying if i said these songs gave me the same feels as their other majestical title tracks
Although I really love and miss the “magic” era of WJSN such as Secret, Dreams Come True, etc., at the same time I was always hoping they would do a more mature concept because I know they can really pull it off! So because of that this is definitely up there as one of my favorites. I’m excited to see what they do next and i don’t mind the change!
You summed up my feelings exactly! The MV/concept just doesn’t excite me too much. I feel like I could picture this on a number of other groups. This song is fine, but I really miss their cosmic sound! I think that they could do a more “mature” concept without losing that sound that they’re known for.
im still surprised they still had their vibe, bit dreamy also feels elegant. and im in love with dawon xd
I loved the individualizm (not a word) and unique color each seperate group had
I loved this song after the first listen. There’s something about it that immediately stuck with me.
As for them transitioning to a more mature style, I think it might be starship creating “space” for an upcoming girl group.
Even though it doesn’t explain moving away from the magic theme
This is the title track that completely caught my eye and the bsides on this ep are fantastic
love the honest reactions man saying what you like and don't like
it’s okay if you didn’t like butterfly as a title track but please, PLEASE tell me you listened the whole mini album because Neverland has AMAZING songs, really magical songs.
Anyways, I feel like they changing their concept is a good thing, I mean they are a 5 year old girl group and it’s fine if they want to try more mature concepts because their essence is still there and their bsides are still great. They do feel like this amazing magical characteristic wjsn sound. Maybe in the future they return to their “cosmic”/“space” sound but with more mature tones and we are going to be so ready for them.
I don't know if you came back sometime after this comment, but he actually mentioned in this video that he liked Pantomime and Hola a lot from Neverland.
This transition from cute to girl crush is such a good choice IMO. They're growing and becoming women as time goes by so there's only so much cute you can do before it becomes cringe! This is such a good call and I'm sure they'll bloom into this concept very well! Looking forward to The Black!
This music video was the first song from them. But I went back and saw all their music videos, the variety shows everything! Stanned so hard! The only issue with this group is trying to choose a bias! They all wreck!
Kinda agree with PD since when I first listen I feel the Izone vibe. It's really catchy but it's kinda remind me of other group instead of WJSN. The pre-chorus is so gooooood though.
The mv giving star wars x teen titans and I'm LIVING, sort of like a futuristic realm where April was situated. Also the disco, house and little bit of electro swing elements omg. Yep, the song deserved a post chorus so much
This sounds very negative however this music video looked cheap to me, starship seems to be slacking on wjsn when they literally had one comeback last year. To add, I am very scared for WJSN because izone disbands soon, Wonyoung and Yujin need to be in a new group and it seems like Starship is putting their full focus on them.
I wouldn't say the MV looks "cheap" but it's obviously a step down in budget from music videos like Save Me Save You, Dreams Come True, etc etc etc. I feel like the once dancing scene (the one that Yooa used in Bon Voyage) looks very low budget (since we know that it's used for many performance videos). The other dancing set with the blue lights was very cool. But overall, I think the music video was very plain and I do hope that Starship gives WJSN a more visually captivating music video.
I love when the meaning of the song effects the composition like it’s talking about something unnatural and I feel the song it self is not natural that choppy tune really fits the song love it
Looks like Starship put all the resources from the IZ*One production team back to WJSN! So much better than Butterfly.
I didn't realize they shared production, tbh I thought unnatural sounded a bit like an Iz*One song!
omg LMAO
@@LifEsongChimE yeah a lot of the izone producers have been working w wjsn for years
@@artg3ne yeah that's why some izone songs sounds like wjsn.
Sorry butterfly remains superior
YEAHH NOT ME WAITING FOR PD TO REACT TO WJSN
this song is a masterpiece im addicted and want to cry and scream at every listen i’m not even lying
i miss the magical concept in their mv's (like secret, save me/save you even their secret films)
the white/gold outfits are gorgeous
the mini album is sooo great ♥ _ ♥
I'm so impressed with their new comeback !! I love the concept and the strong choreography !!
After 5 years as a fan, I'm just glad to get ANY comeback from WJSN! And I know the B-sides will make up for any main song shortcomings. But hell this time even the main song blew my mind!
It is just a BOP
i'm early for a change, but i appreciate your content so much PD! thanks for your genuine reactions and for being someone that actually dissects into the whole production. i needed this 😩💓💕
Along with the title track, all the bsides are also amazing!! This is a really good cb!!
you have to react to pentagon’s do or not, it’s SO good, jinho isn’t in it bc he’s doing military training right now. but the theme seems 80’s to me but also present time, they have this one scene and it’s SO good. and i know you’ll love it. also hui left for the military soon after they filmed the music video.
Thank you for reacting so fast! I've been an ujung since secret era and I love every release they have put out so far, I adore that they try new things while maintaining their distinct sound and style. Like you hear any song of theirs and you instantly know it's a wjsn song. I agree that the butterfly mv was too simple for their usual style but I realy like the mv for Unnatural, it goes well with the song and concept. I recommend you to listen to the whole mini album, not one skippable song, all of them are so so good. I think you will love New Me as it reminds me of You Got and I know you loved that song when you did the album listen to WJ Stay (the album that has la la love). And Yalla reminds me of Pantomime haha
Honestly I don't think starship is giving enough attention to wjsn they're almost on a once a year comeback level this year and starship seem like they"re more involved in their bgs and they're probably going to debut a new gg so I hope they won't give up on wjsn
yeah theyre slacking with wjsn but i think the less comebacks is bcz of members having solo activities and thats why i think wjsn chocome debuted
The pre-chorus really give me a shock GOOSEBUMPS
I love them so much omg thank you for this!!
tbh!! the 'cosmic concept' is musically ALWAYS in wjsn's albums. it mainly consists of playful synths and modulations which are ALWAYS there. butterfly had a weak mv that's true, but you can HEAR the expensiveness in the music production for the album. we all probably started loving wjsn for the space concept and that is probably never going to go away (I mean, it's in their name!!) in terms of musicality. but it's nice to see them try out different concepts that will bring more fans (both Korean and international I would say) to the group
lovw how wjsn really has their own signature sound it's like very synthy, retro-y vibes with their magical/fantasy concepts (tho we didn't really this in thise comeback)
Hey PD! Love your reactions and Kulture studies!
i see the evolution in their sound (thinking about the unnatural album as a whole) as a good thing and something that makes them constantly interesting
the house influences in last dance and yalla are great and they also went into synthwave with new me, it's a great, great album
That's fair, I miss the more magical concepts but I still love their recent releases!
This comeback is really good, I'm in love
groundbreaking, showstopping... the perfect song
It reminded me of some of their bsides like pantomime. That's why I don't mind the concept because we've been prepared through these years for it
as a ujung, i can't agree more, the funniest point is even some of you are not ujung, you guys still find out that starship doesn't try to give them more resources, WJSN deserve more than it. the song is great, but not the music video. Also, starship seems doesn't even care about the teaser and the hidden films, they are short and sloppy. anyway thanks for studying UNNATURAL! :D
the quality of the secret/hidden films going down is so upsetting :/
@@pllatlatvd6851 in fact im super disappointed after watching the butterfly mv... apparently starshit stop putting effort on mv or teaser whatever🥲
their title tracks are always pretty good but their b sides are truly god tier
I liked so very much their last album with Butterfly, the b-sides were so goooood, and it was my first WJSN album actually where I liked every single song on it! So I was excited about this one, and I must say this title track is awesome for me, the pre-chorus is killing it and the highnotes are so good. I wonder what the album is like
i really do hope they come back to their magical/cosmic concept T_T i love unnatural but i do feel like their magical concept is what set them apart from other ggs. their newest music videos are very simple compared to secret, save me save you, etc... starship please don't do this to my girls 💔
this was uploaded so early im blesseddddd the album for this is amazing as well!
this album snapped as usual, yaya is like pantomime pt 2 i'm obsessed
this aint kpop, this wjsn-pop
I feel like ss is forgetting what makes WJSN different. I became an u-jung back in 2016 and they're ... following mainstream kpop now. It shows in their recent comebacks (specifically title tracks ... apart from summer releases and WJSN Chocome of course) and MVs especially. Starship took away their main title track sounds and decided to follow trends. Their MVs use to be so magical too... Secret, I Wish, DCT, Save me Save You, As You Wish, and arguably La La Love. Now their MVs look too simple for a group who's concept is supposedly "magical" and "cosmic". Unnatural is a nice MV but that concept doesn't fit what WJSN's vibes should be, same with Butterfly. Their looks and sound has skewed from what got me into them in the first place. Starship gave up on their concept since 2020, and I wish I knew why.
This is my first WJSN comeback, and this is perfect ❤️
i was WAITING FA THIS ONE!! YUUP
I'm an ujung and I'm really enjoying what they are doing now, but it makes me kinda sad that they are leaving the cosmic concept behind
I wouldn’t say their sound has changed too dramatically album wise, their title tracks however have seen a complete shift in focus. Their sound with their bsides has matured while maintaining the signature sound that they’ve had, but their title tracks have shifted a little too much even though I love the recent songs. I have to agree with the music video situation though, it feels oversimplified while also trying to do to much and not really hitting the mark and I do feel like it’s them being underfunded and unfortunately I believe its related to their old concept underselling.